October 10, 2011 
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I'd like to replace it with a ZFS-friendly, non-fake-4K-sector drives. Will ZFS handle a mixed scenario of both 4K and non-4K HDs? Thanks![09:17:53] <Stric> each vdev has a setting (ashift) for alignment. ashift=12 is a google-worthy thing.[09:22:54] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[09:23:27] *** kdavy_ has quit IRC[09:26:24] *** kdavy has joined #opensolaris[09:28:33] <phretor> Stric: so, I should align every vdev according to it's sectors' size?[09:29:10] <Stric> phretor: if you want any performance, yes[09:30:41] <phretor> Stric: since this would be just a transition, I'm just worried about the *feasibility* of a mixed scenario. Performance will come when all the disks will be non-4K ;)[09:31:47] <Stric> phretor: if you mix, you want alignment according to the one with the largest sector size[09:32:21] <phretor> Stric: I know. However, my question is, what if I don't align?[09:32:40] <Stric> Then you get bad performance[09:33:50] <phretor> Stric: but the drive will still work fine, right?[09:34:24] <Stric> Correct[09:37:26] *** GdeLeo has joined #opensolaris[09:39:41] *** tsoome has quit IRC[09:39:55] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[09:42:16] *** ajkn has quit IRC[09:42:36] *** ajkn has joined #opensolaris[09:59:51] *** ARBALEST_ has joined #opensolaris[10:06:19] *** ARBALEST_ has quit IRC[10:12:47] *** zz_Disorganized is now known as Disorganized[10:13:31] *** Whoopsie has joined #opensolaris[10:13:58] <Stric> Regarding S11EA in Virtualbox yesterday, seems to work better with PIIX3 chipset and PXE booting over PRO/1000 (requires vbox extensions)[10:14:24] <Stric> I can't get either vbox' own pxe or gpxe floppy to detect any nic if I choose ICH9[10:21:12] *** twister004 has joined #opensolaris[10:22:34] *** spanglywires has joined #opensolaris[10:26:18] *** Martiini has joined #opensolaris[10:30:18] *** ikonia has quit IRC[10:33:30] <phretor> any opinion on WD2003FYYS 2T with ZFS?[10:35:56] *** Disorganized is now known as zz_Disorganized[10:38:21] *** ikonia has joined #opensolaris[10:47:32] *** Martiini has quit IRC[10:51:33] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[10:55:38] *** dominiq has joined #opensolaris[10:56:06] *** calumb has joined #opensolaris[11:04:36] *** sponix has quit IRC[11:12:54] *** heldchen has quit IRC[11:15:58] *** Martiini has joined #opensolaris[11:17:37] *** lblume has joined #opensolaris[11:25:56] *** Martiini has quit IRC[11:26:40] *** cypromis has quit IRC[11:26:59] *** sponix has joined #opensolaris[11:31:59] *** spanglywires has quit IRC[11:37:31] *** held has joined #opensolaris[12:17:43] *** tsoome1 has joined #opensolaris[12:17:44] <AlasAway> phretor: avoid WD at all costs[12:17:53] <phretor> AlasAway: suggestions?[12:18:24] <AlasAway> Hitachi or Seagate[12:18:27] <AlasAway> http://www.scan.co.uk/products/2tb-hitachi-0f12117-coolspin-5k3000-sata-6gb-s-5900rpm-32mb-cache-8ms-ncq[12:18:30] <AlasAway> these are good[12:18:41] <AlasAway> if you want slow/cheap/cool that is[12:20:12] *** tsoome has quit IRC[12:20:13] *** tsoome1 is now known as tsoome[12:24:13] *** CVLTCMK0 has quit IRC[12:25:12] *** tsoome1 has joined #opensolaris[12:25:59] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[12:28:01] *** tsoome has quit IRC[12:28:01] *** tsoome1 is now known as tsoome[12:33:44] *** CVLTCMK0 has joined #opensolaris[12:35:43] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[12:45:16] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[12:47:09] *** eXeC001er has joined #opensolaris[12:55:15] *** tsoome has quit IRC[13:03:45] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[13:05:34] *** tsoome has quit IRC[13:10:35] *** Martiini has joined #opensolaris[13:18:38] *** pjd has quit IRC[13:31:50] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[13:32:53] *** k1llah3rtz has quit IRC[13:34:17] *** k1llah3rtz has joined #opensolaris[13:37:22] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[13:38:25] *** tsoome1 has joined #opensolaris[13:42:09] *** tsoome has quit IRC[13:42:09] *** tsoome1 is now known as tsoome[13:45:20] *** TomJ has joined #opensolaris[13:45:36] *** TomJ has quit IRC[13:45:36] *** TomJ has joined #opensolaris[13:50:39] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[13:57:32] <gvm1> AlasAway: Definitely agree on the coolspins. I'm using these on my MicroServers. Price seems to have gone up recently though. Also agree on WD - very poor reliability, major problems with TLER.[13:58:41] * RoyK cannot but agree on WD being shite[14:02:03] *** calumb is now known as calLNCH[14:31:24] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[14:32:01] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[14:35:21] *** ImTheBitch has joined #opensolaris[14:41:06] *** CVLTCMK0 has quit IRC[14:45:26] *** twister004 has quit IRC[14:53:34] *** TomJ has quit IRC[14:57:50] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[15:07:04] *** ImTheBit1h has joined #opensolaris[15:07:07] *** keremet has left #opensolaris[15:14:16] *** ImTheBit1h has quit IRC[15:27:03] *** jailbox has quit IRC[15:27:18] *** calLNCH is now known as calumb[15:33:18] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: SFEmpfr.spec: bump to 3.1.0, add IPS package name SFEgmp.spec: bump to 5.0.2, go with proper multiarch[15:38:24] *** dubf has quit IRC[15:43:14] *** jailbox has joined #opensolaris[15:48:26] *** pizdec has joined #opensolaris[15:53:53] *** twister004 has joined #opensolaris[16:13:22] *** hecsa has quit IRC[16:17:18] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[16:18:53] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: SFEnasm.spec: add IPS package name[16:21:15] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: SFElibmpc.spec: add IPS package name base-specs/libmpc.spec: bump to 0.9[16:22:30] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: SFEgcc.spec: add IPS package name[16:24:31] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: SFElibfribidi.spec: add IPS package name[16:26:23] *** randw has joined #opensolaris[16:28:23] *** elgar has joined #opensolaris[16:28:26] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:32:12] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: encumbered/SFElame.spec: add IPS package name, remove GCC dependency[16:42:58] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: encumbered/SFElibdvdcss.spec: add IPS package name encumbered/SFElibmad.spec: add IPS package name encumbered/SFEliba52.spec: add IPS package name[16:43:48] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: encumbered/SFElibmpcdec.spec: add IPS package name[16:45:56] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: encumbered/SFEtwolame.spec: bump to 0.3.13, add IPS package name[16:46:58] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: SFEsupertuxkart.spec: fix packaging[16:51:46] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: SFEladspa.spec: add IPS package name[16:56:19] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: SFElibdvdread.spec: add IPS package name[17:01:26] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: SFElibdvdnav.spec: add IPS package name[17:02:50] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: encumbered/SFElibgsm.spec: add IPS package name[17:13:14] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[17:14:38] *** deet1 has quit IRC[17:20:21] <CIA-56> SFE jurikm: encumbered/SFEopencore-amr.spec: add IPS package name[17:29:10] *** jdanna has joined #opensolaris[17:29:36] <jdanna> does anybody know if dropping zfs_arc_max to somthing really low like 512meg or 1 gig on a machine with 8gigs of ram will kill performance too bad?[17:29:56] <jdanna> im trying to run VMs, but once i get to a certain point they wont start because zfs is allocating a ton of my ram[17:30:01] <jdanna> (i already have ot set to 2gig)[17:34:47] <lblume> What kind of VM? VBox? Because AFAICT the system should show the ARC memory as free anyway for apps, so that should not prevent them from starting in any way.[17:37:12] <lblume> And of course, what message are you getting that makes you feel that is the cause?[17:37:30] <jdanna> vbox[17:37:37] <jdanna> but im running it under oracle virtual desktop infrastructure[17:38:23] <jdanna> there was a doc for oracle VDI telling me to drop it to 2 gigs[17:38:47] <jdanna> cant get to it now cause wikis.sun.com seems to be down[17:39:11] <jdanna> When Oracle VM VirtualBox and the Oracle VDI Core are installed on the same machine, ZFS uses any memory available (up to the limit) for a the ARC cache. This can cause issues, because the Oracle VDI Core may falsely report that there is not enough memory for starting up any virtual machine.[17:39:16] <jdanna> To resolve this issue, adat the max value used for the ARC cache. For example, to restrict the memory to 22GB, add the following line in /etc/system:[17:39:19] <jdanna> set zfs:zfs_arc_max = 2147483648[17:41:09] <bradend> Well, as far as your performance impact concern - limiting the ARC does exactly as much - it doesn't cause a problem, you just don't get to use the ARC as much. If your ARC hitrate is low, the impact is far less noticeable anyways.[17:42:00] <jdanna> im not really sure what arc does[17:42:38] <bradend> The ARC is roughly an in-ram read-cache. Popular data is read from RAM instead of from the disk.[17:42:58] <bradend> Really gives random read IO a shot in the arm, if it's in the cache.[17:45:43] <jdanna> so if i set it to like 512meg it wont do anything relaly bad, just may slow things down a bit?[17:45:48] <jdanna> i dont think im doing a ton of random reads[17:46:19] <bradend> It won't do anything bad - and if you don't like the impact, you can always turn it back up.[17:47:41] <bdha> "a bit" is a conservative way to put it. ZFS performance relies on in-memory cache. Perf will suck.[17:48:05] <bdha> I find it hilarious that VirtualBox doesn't know how to deal with the ARC. :\[17:48:11] <jdanna> is there a way to see how much im really using so i can get a gauge of how low i can go[17:48:16] <jdanna> bdha: i think vritualbox does[17:48:18] <jdanna> VDI doesnt[17:48:24] <bdha> jdanna: echo ::memstat | mdb -k[17:48:26] <bradend> Okay, will, I will clarify that you do need a certain minimum amount of ARC to live, depending on how much data you have.[17:48:43] <bradend> You certainly need enough ARC to cache ZFS metadata.[17:49:23] <bdha> I'd suggesting looking at SmartOS instead of VDI (or whatever), but there's a ZFS bug there that requires limiting zfs_max_arc too.[17:49:29] <bdha> (serendipity!)[17:49:42] <bdha> Though beyond that I'm much, much happier with SmartOS/KVM than vbox.[17:49:50] <bradend> I'm also not clear on whether L2ARC mapping uses RAM as defined in max_arc or if it allocates separately.[17:51:31] <jdanna> well the whole point is to use VDI to serve desktop VMs to sun rays[17:51:54] <jdanna> zfs file data is about 1 gig[17:51:59] <jdanna> is that what im looking for?[17:54:25] <jdanna> im kinda regretting using zfs for this, i didnt realize how much ram it took[17:54:49] *** twister004 has quit IRC[17:55:02] <bdha> jdanna: Usually it's a good thing.[17:55:07] <bdha> VDI is stupid.[17:55:13] <jdanna> yea, maybe i just need to buy more ram[17:55:32] <Stric> zfs uses what's free, unless you tell it otherwise[17:55:37] <bdha> The ARC releases when an app mallocs. And otherwise, you want that cache.[17:55:50] <bdha> VDI is trying to be smart, and failing.[17:56:52] <jdanna> bdha: precisely.[17:58:10] <jdanna> but other then that it really works good ;)[17:58:20] <bdha> Everything has bugs. ;P[17:58:24] <jdanna> maybe ill drop it to 1.5 since[17:58:37] <jdanna> that should giev me some room[17:58:44] <bdha> What I've done for this SmartOS bug is limit zfs_max_arc to 32GB on a 72GB system. That leaves 32GB for KVM instances.[17:58:50] <bdha> er, max. But you get the idea.[17:58:52] <bdha> math.[17:59:12] <bdha> Getting paged every 10m for shit I don't care about after being up firefighting until 5AM isn't helping my brain.[18:01:19] <jdanna> im scared to reboot this thing since im not at home[18:02:02] <jdanna> theres no way to refresh the arc_cache setting without a reboot is there?[18:02:49] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[18:02:50] <bradend> Hmm, I think there is a way.[18:02:54] <bradend> Let me think.[18:03:49] <bradend> Aye, "set zfs:zfs_arc_max" should work at the command line just fine.[18:04:11] <bdha> What?[18:04:38] <bradend> Or am I thinking of something else.[18:04:44] <bradend> Crap, I am.[18:04:50] <jdanna> damn had my hope sup[18:05:07] <bdha> Setting it in mdb might work. It used to. That was before it had a pretty name, though.[18:05:37] <bradend> Aye, yes, that's what I was thinking of.[18:05:41] <bradend> Damn my stupid brain[18:06:12] *** AxeZ has joined #opensolaris[18:06:50] *** phretor has quit IRC[18:12:52] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris[18:20:34] *** Martiini has quit IRC[18:28:48] *** Whoopsie has quit IRC[18:33:53] *** deet1 has joined #opensolaris[18:38:02] *** jfisc has joined #opensolaris[18:41:43] *** Martiini has joined #opensolaris[18:42:28] *** fisted_ has quit IRC[18:49:54] *** fisted has joined #opensolaris[19:02:45] *** twister004 has joined #opensolaris[19:13:13] *** deet1 has quit IRC[19:17:58] *** szaydel has joined #opensolaris[19:20:44] *** bradend has quit IRC[19:22:34] *** linux00002 has joined #opensolaris[19:23:49] <linux00002> Anybody know how i can get sendmail to work? i haven't been able to send mail in openindiana, while I was able to do it in opensolaris out of the box[19:24:30] <tsoome> you mean, receive mails?[19:25:11] <linux00002> sending mail[19:25:16] <tsoome> ?[19:26:34] *** Mdx4 has joined #opensolaris[19:26:34] <RoyK> linux00002: check the mail queue[19:26:35] <RoyK> mailq[19:27:37] <linux00002> there are two mails there it seems, it says Deferred. syslog says Deferred: connection refused by 127.0.0.1[19:27:48] <tsoome> if the service is not running, enable it. the default setup only listens on loopback, you may need to set svc:/network/smtp:sendmail/config/local_only = false[19:27:58] <tsoome> svcs sendmail[19:28:45] *** bradend has joined #opensolaris[19:30:16] <linux00002> ah, sendmail was in maintenance mode for whatever reason[19:30:28] <linux00002> I disabled and enabled it and it's online now[19:31:23] <tsoome> svcs -vx is the thing you wanna run in such cases; then check the log file its telling for you[19:31:33] <linux00002> i see[19:31:44] <tsoome> svcadm clear will clear up the maintenance flag[19:32:25] <tsoome> disable/enable will do it as well, but you have one more command to give;)[19:32:39] *** bradend has quit IRC[19:34:39] <linux00002> Also svcs zfs/auto-snapshot gives me no results, do I need to install some package to get the hourly,monthly,daily,etc services ?[19:36:10] *** bradend has joined #opensolaris[19:45:28] *** deet1 has joined #opensolaris[19:45:43] *** deet1 has joined #opensolaris[19:48:35] *** held has quit IRC[19:54:24] <CIA-56> illumos Richard Lowe <richlowe at richlowe dot net>: 1593 iiadm overflows volume names Reviewed by: Gordon Ross <gwr at nexenta dot com> Reviewed by: Robert Mustacchi <rm at joyent dot com> Approved by: Albert Lee <trisk at nexenta dot com>[19:56:07] <richlowe> linux00002: desktop/time-slider[19:57:45] <ImTheBitch> Awww :< My OI installation on my v40z is messed up :< :<[19:57:57] <ImTheBitch> It goes to boot and it flashes pages worth of stuff on the console and reboots.[19:58:05] <ImTheBitch> No idea what the error is :|[19:59:02] <ImTheBitch> I think I probably pulled the plug on it last time it was on and it didn't like it.[19:59:12] <ImTheBitch> Luckily it's just my toy and not in a production environment.[20:02:54] <ImTheBitch> Heh yeh that's it. I had forgotten the root password for the global zone and wanted to turn it off so I just pulled the plug. Now it won't boot. Heh.[20:04:31] <richlowe> in grub, add '-kv' to the end of the kernel$ line, presuming it's crashing, its should then stop and let you look around in the debugger.[20:04:45] <richlowe> other thing worth doing, trying to boot a previous boot environment (if, for eg, the boot archive is just screwed)[20:05:35] <ImTheBitch> It doesn't have any previous boot environments, and at the moment the only keyboard I have for it is USB :| I'll just put er' away for a rainy day.[20:06:05] <ImTheBitch> I might put netbsd on it or something, just as a joke.[20:07:06] <ImTheBitch> If I had a quiet place for it I would start a free shell service w/ it =][20:07:08] <alanc> Sun workstations didn't have ports for non USB keyboards, so there is no other keyboard you could have for it[20:07:26] <ImTheBitch> I said a v40z.[20:07:30] <ImTheBitch> Not a sun workstation![20:07:34] <ImTheBitch> ANd it has usb and ps/2[20:07:46] <alanc> oh, somehow my brain saw Ultra 40[20:07:46] <ImTheBitch> http://i54.tinypic.com/v3exz7.jpg see picture =][20:07:56] <ImTheBitch> Ah, kk.[20:07:59] * alanc needs to have more weekend[20:08:09] *** ginabc has joined #opensolaris[20:08:35] <ImTheBitch> alanc the machine in the corner is an ultra30, that's what I'm on now.[20:08:36] *** ImTheBitch has left #opensolaris[20:08:36] *** ImTheBitch has joined #opensolaris[20:08:42] <ImTheBitch> see =][20:08:53] <ImTheBitch> It's my edge router. Anyways though yeh, v40z is trashed :|[20:08:55] <alanc> that's old school[20:09:02] <alanc> or just plain old[20:09:17] *** dominiq has quit IRC[20:09:18] <ImTheBitch> LoL it makes an awesome edge router man =][20:09:25] <ImTheBitch> 300Mhz 2MB L2 sparcv9 512mbyte =][20:09:49] <ImTheBitch> It even has the original 4.2G SUN scsi2 drive in it, that is still chugging away =][20:11:21] *** fisted has quit IRC[20:12:29] *** ginabc has quit IRC[20:13:22] *** deet1 has quit IRC[20:13:55] *** held has joined #opensolaris[20:15:43] *** fisted has joined #opensolaris[20:20:26] *** alanc changes topic to "OpenSolaris is dead, long live the community! Use Solaris 11 or the open fork, #illumos | Solaris 11 Express 2010.11 (151a): http://bit.ly/d809HG | OpenIndiana 151a: http://goo.gl/CrDOy #openindiana | Docs: (READ THEM!) http://goo.gl/emjEm | Sysadm Guide: http://goo.gl/HLcXT | Linux->Solaris migrants: http://bhami.com/rosetta.html | Long live smrt!"[20:20:50] * alanc removed the opensolaris.org downtime notice since the admin team mailed out all machines are back online now[20:23:47] *** merzo has quit IRC[20:31:09] *** eXeC001er has quit IRC[20:32:57] *** AlasAway is now known as Alasdairrr[20:38:19] *** calumb has quit IRC[20:45:04] *** Martiini has quit IRC[20:52:32] *** Martiini has joined #opensolaris[21:02:39] *** deet1 has joined #opensolaris[21:07:23] *** twister004 has quit IRC[21:14:58] *** piwi has quit IRC[21:15:51] *** piwi has joined #opensolaris[21:32:30] *** uw_ has joined #opensolaris[21:33:10] *** deet1 has quit IRC[21:33:32] *** deet1 has joined #opensolaris[21:39:19] *** pjd has joined #opensolaris[21:57:15] *** merzo has joined #opensolaris[21:59:13] *** jdanna has left #opensolaris[22:08:46] *** fahadsadah has quit IRC[22:16:41] *** fahadsadah has joined #opensolaris[22:16:48] *** twister004 has joined #opensolaris[22:34:08] *** timsf has quit IRC[22:35:12] *** timsf has joined #opensolaris[22:44:55] *** Martiini has quit IRC[23:03:51] *** twister004 has quit IRC[23:05:24] *** |rt| has joined #opensolaris[23:11:35] *** Ether_Man has joined #opensolaris[23:18:14] <Ether_Man> Any known problems with signing up on the opensolaris site atm? Not getting the confirmation email (and yes I've checked spam and everything). Kindof annoying since login is required to download the install ISOs :/[23:19:50] <seanmcg> you may want the later ones from oracle.com instead which are updated versions (close to what will be the released version). The ones on opensolar.org are rather old[23:20:07] <seanmcg> look for early access[23:21:09] <Ether_Man> Well it's still an Oracle login, so doesnt really help though :)[23:21:10] *** yippi has quit IRC[23:21:59] <Ether_Man> But I'll keep that in mind[23:22:40] <alanc> the machines were down for facility (power grid) maintenance over the weekend, so perhaps something broke coming back up? mail website-admin at opensolaris dot org and they should be able to help[23:24:24] <Ether_Man> Ah well.. I'll wait for a few more hours before starting that.. 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