April 25, 2010 
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April 25, 2010 [00:00:12] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[00:00:57] <Spencer_tt> jbit: did he laugh?[00:01:24] <jbit> Spencer_tt: he just looked very skeptical at me until he realised i acutally wanted to know how to get to poland[00:01:38] <Spencer_tt> ask trochej :)[00:01:46] <Spencer_tt> just don't forget some coffee :p[00:02:51] *** radsy has joined #opensolaris[00:03:49] *** Norrin has quit IRC[00:04:02] <Spencer_tt> Beelsebob: Research takes ages then comes the dev part it's the easiest bit in some ways imho[00:04:16] <Spencer_tt> I'm off.[00:04:34] <Beelsebob> Spencer_tt: uhhuh[00:04:39] <Beelsebob> the dev took all of 3 days[00:05:19] *** Tusk has quit IRC[00:06:13] <Spencer_tt> just get a host with https and secure shells you'll have to google those.[00:06:38] <Spencer_tt> maybe even secure clouds or what have you.[00:07:01] *** JoergB has quit IRC[00:07:15] *** JoergB has joined #opensolaris[00:07:51] *** Tusk has joined #opensolaris[00:09:48] *** CoolMa has quit IRC[00:14:55] <Beelsebob> Spencer_tt: only one choice of host for this particular product[00:14:56] <Beelsebob> :([00:15:15] <Beelsebob> and said host is kagy about making sure all the is are crossed and ts dotted about US encryption law[00:15:45] <Spencer_tt> then choose another domain[00:15:59] <Spencer_tt> in another country that's not cagey[00:16:05] <Beelsebob> no can do[00:16:13] <Spencer_tt> you're out of luck.[00:16:19] <Beelsebob> the host is apple.com[00:16:27] <Beelsebob> ;)[00:16:38] <Spencer_tt> you are unluckier :p[00:16:42] <Beelsebob> uhhuh[00:16:45] <Spencer_tt> lol[00:17:23] <Spencer_tt> anyway they can always find a solution for you if you talk to apple based service providers[00:17:57] <Beelsebob> well no, this product goes in the iTunes store or it doesn't[00:18:11] <Beelsebob> if it goes in the iTS, it gets sent to the US, and then out of the US[00:18:18] <Beelsebob> and hence must conform to US export laws[00:18:46] *** radsy has quit IRC[00:18:56] <Spencer_tt> umm all of them do unless they go or vinyl, cd, or other mediums and forget itunes. many seems to ignore it.[00:19:18] <Spencer_tt> you need to get in touch with apple?[00:19:32] <Beelsebob> you can't put an iPhone application on a vinyl disk ;)[00:19:40] <Spencer_tt> unless it's music[00:19:53] <richlowe> alanc: The trick to searching b.o.o for fields which it does not search explicitly, or possibly at all (and in many cases, even for those you think it is searching) is to google "site:bugs.opensolaris.org/bug_database/view_bug.do <the things you would think b.o.o could find on its own>"[00:19:54] <Spencer_tt> itunes or iphone?[00:20:01] <Beelsebob> iPhone[00:20:28] <Spencer_tt> good luck getting it done[00:20:41] <Spencer_tt> that's all I can say, there's other phones btw :)[00:21:13] <Beelsebob> yep, but none that have a market that big[00:23:36] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[00:23:54] *** syamajala has joined #opensolaris[00:24:04] <Spencer_tt> you have to find a way to lock yourself out of iPhone app universe if that makes any sense, still you have to try - there're more phones put together than smart phones. Still good luck.[00:24:38] <Beelsebob> meh[00:24:46] <Beelsebob> the iPhone app universe makes us money[00:25:44] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[00:25:47] <Spencer_tt> and the phone industry is makes money for networks, phone makers and application designers - you choose iphone only if you have to.[00:26:03] <Beelsebob> we've tried other smartphones[00:26:11] <Beelsebob> android made a *fraction* of what iPhone makes[00:26:39] <Beelsebob> the phones all have different specs, do different things, different controls, and talk to different stores[00:26:56] <Beelsebob> for iPhone you can release one app, and know it'll work eveywhere[00:27:14] <Beelsebob> much like a games company can release once for XBox 360 and know it has an enormous user base[00:27:52] *** moepmoep has quit IRC[00:28:34] <Spencer_tt> never really looked at the app store - not a fan of the iphone/ipad - still people always complain about getting their applications accepted[00:28:57] *** Norrin has joined #opensolaris[00:29:04] <Spencer_tt> at least that's what I've heard.[00:29:36] <Spencer_tt> anyways have to call it a day.[00:30:38] <jbit> people who complain about the iphone/ipad store ruels have clearly never been through any otehr certification process[00:31:11] <Aria> Or expect there to be some more manual way to load apps[00:31:38] <Spencer_tt> maybe some intensive research will do the work for you about getting it past the certification process - it should be possible really.[00:31:40] <jbit> it's a closed platform, i don't think anybody has claimed otherwise ever[00:32:51] *** syamajala has quit IRC[00:33:04] <jbit> the manual way to load apps is paying to be an apple developer[00:33:12] *** moepmoep has joined #opensolaris[00:33:23] <jbit> which is much better than the way to do such a thing on other consumer electronic devices[00:34:08] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[00:34:11] *** sk0rd has quit IRC[00:37:28] *** leito has quit IRC[00:42:48] *** JonathanYC has joined #opensolaris[00:52:54] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[00:54:50] <CIA-21> Carl Chesbrough <carl.chesbrough at sun dot com>: 6922313 tsalarm_set in libtsalarm(3LIB) causes core dump in cleanup by freeing (not initialized) bad pointer[00:56:09] *** omry_ has quit IRC[00:59:44] *** omry_ has joined #opensolaris[01:09:11] *** mroconnor has joined #opensolaris[01:15:47] <duckinator> lmfao...[01:16:07] <Spencer_tt> Beelsebob: in theory you can build apps that run on iphone like phones or just touch phones - or any other phones the process shouldn't be any different from any other software publishing method except the platform specifics & procedures for getting your application to the user especially when you need to sell, depends on how much effort you're going to do it - Apple said something about policy http://mashable.com/2010/04/12/op[01:16:07] <Spencer_tt> era-mini-iphone-approved/ which would mean I don't give a hoot a user or a dev but maybe someone who needs to can research a little, it pays[01:16:08] <duckinator> running osol in 512MB RAM isn't my most genius idea. ran out of RAM while disabling gdm.. xD[01:16:19] <Spencer_tt> ouch duckinator[01:16:42] <duckinator> Spencer_tt: yea, i put osol on a little 700MHz Pentium 3 w/ 512MB RAM... worked great, until i left it unattended for a few hours[01:17:26] <duckinator> :( guess i have to go and do a force-shutdown, then wait 7 mins for it to boot back up[01:17:37] <Spencer_tt> well I left my laptop on for a while it did crash a few time while running OpenSolaris + ff[01:17:53] <duckinator> well it still /works/ it just has no RAM left when i try to do anything[01:18:05] <duckinator> i guess it finally ran out of swap :D[01:18:09] <duckinator> brb[01:18:17] <Spencer_tt> and I'm tired and I can't spell sleep :p[01:21:14] *** duck[osol] has quit IRC[01:21:15] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[01:21:16] *** DesiJat has joined #opensolaris[01:22:12] <duckinator> back[01:22:17] <duckinator> it booted much quicker that time[01:22:29] *** nage_ has joined #opensolaris[01:22:37] *** ingenthr1 has quit IRC[01:24:02] *** submesa has quit IRC[01:26:47] *** dalibor has quit IRC[01:30:16] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[01:30:26] *** vraa has joined #opensolaris[01:32:17] <Spencer_tt> how[01:35:55] *** heatman has quit IRC[01:36:58] *** TomJ has quit IRC[01:38:21] *** sysspoof_ has quit IRC[01:40:39] *** TomJ has joined #opensolaris[01:47:09] *** randw has quit IRC[01:47:14] *** randw has joined #opensolaris[01:47:47] <Beelsebob> Spencer_tt: I'm not sure what you're trying to point out with opera mini being aproved...[01:47:54] <Beelsebob> it doesn't break any of the rules[01:47:55] *** RoyK has left #opensolaris[01:48:03] <Beelsebob> it was no real surprise it got through[01:51:53] *** gm152 has quit IRC[01:52:27] <Spencer_tt> well there you have it I guess all you have to do is go through the process then wait & see is it gets accepted[01:53:10] *** jpd1234 has quit IRC[01:53:30] *** CodeWar has joined 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nitrile has quit IRC[02:50:14] <Triskelios> hm, is there a larger version of the opensolaris.org favicon?[02:52:14] *** sergiusens has joined #opensolaris[02:53:52] *** lewellyn has quit IRC[02:55:00] *** lewellyn has joined #opensolaris[02:55:00] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o lewellyn[02:57:23] *** tohtis has joined #opensolaris[02:59:21] <CodeWar> can somebody with credible hw knowledge of SPARC coolthread machines comment if video playback as a concept has ever been tried on these machines .. low clock speed lots of strands[03:00:03] <sickness> you'd need a multithreaded player... just my 2c :P[03:00:40] *** cybernd has quit IRC[03:02:00] *** sergiusens has quit IRC[03:04:10] <Triskelios> is mlib thread-safe? if so, maybe it works with multhreaded ffmpeg[03:08:08] *** tohtis has left #opensolaris[03:11:19] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[03:13:22] *** Thrae has quit IRC[03:13:37] *** Thrae has joined #opensolaris[03:16:22] *** corretico_ has quit IRC[03:18:04] *** jthunder__ has joined #opensolaris[03:18:07] *** Thrae has quit IRC[03:18:39] *** Thrae has joined #opensolaris[03:19:37] <palowoda> Video playback streams on Sparc seems like a waste of time these days.[03:20:19] *** jthunder_ has quit IRC[03:21:30] *** nickw has quit IRC[03:34:47] *** Thrae has quit IRC[03:35:37] *** vraa has quit IRC[03:35:48] *** Thrae has joined #opensolaris[03:36:21] *** zmisc has joined #opensolaris[03:36:35] *** nickw has joined #opensolaris[03:36:37] <nikolam> palowoda, want to saz zou lack player on sparc?[03:37:10] <palowoda> nop me[03:38:20] <nikolam> palowoda, video playback streams, like serving content or what[03:39:11] <palowoda> Just video playback. But it's not me that has a concern about it it was CodeWar.[03:40:10] *** smrt has quit IRC[03:40:13] <palowoda> Heck Oracle only has one desktop machine for video playback these days anywho.[03:40:27] *** Thrae has quit IRC[03:41:01] *** gm152 has joined #opensolaris[03:41:02] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #opensolaris[03:41:15] <palowoda> I wouldn't consider the Sunray worthy of video playback.[03:41:17] *** Thrae has joined #opensolaris[03:42:33] <lewellyn> wtf. we lost smrt[03:42:56] <palowoda> smrt: explain why you are lost[03:43:05] *** smrt has joined #opensolaris[03:43:13] <lewellyn> smrt: hi[03:43:13] <smrt> Hi, I'm smrt. I try to be a helpful bot. For more information: /msg smrt help[03:43:22] <lewellyn> ok. back to doing real life things[03:43:50] <palowoda> smrt: explain where were you?[03:43:50] <smrt> Um. I seem to not know anything about where were you?...[03:44:39] <palowoda> smrt: explain Oracle[03:44:40] <smrt> See http://www.sun.com/acquisition/company.jsp[03:45:12] <jthunder__> having some issues with dns-sd / avahi and browsing services on the osol box from OSX[03:45:36] <palowoda> yeech[03:45:40] <jthunder__> I originally used dns-sd to to the registration, does the avahi services duplicate this functionality?[03:45:47] *** Thrae has quit IRC[03:46:48] *** Thrae has joined #opensolaris[03:50:36] *** wdp_aao_ has joined #opensolaris[03:50:49] *** wdp_ has joined #opensolaris[03:51:19] *** zmisc has left #opensolaris[03:53:45] *** wdp_aao has quit IRC[03:54:28] *** wdp has quit IRC[03:55:56] *** randw has quit IRC[04:03:27] *** Thrae has quit IRC[04:04:24] *** Thrae has joined #opensolaris[04:09:40] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[04:17:55] *** lblume has joined #opensolaris[04:18:43] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[04:19:00] *** lewellyn has quit IRC[04:21:50] *** lewellyn has joined #opensolaris[04:21:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o lewellyn[04:34:11] *** ultrasparc-viii has quit IRC[04:37:13] *** nage_ has quit IRC[04:43:49] *** guest2341 has joined #opensolaris[04:45:42] *** man_with_a_stick has joined #opensolaris[04:45:58] *** jthunder_ has joined #opensolaris[04:47:19] *** icarus902 has joined #opensolaris[04:48:43] *** jthunder__ has quit IRC[04:53:07] <kohju> hmm, why not start building? http://jucr.opensolaris.org/build/status/[04:53:29] *** Cobi has quit IRC[04:54:22] *** myosound has quit IRC[05:03:07] *** guest2341 has quit IRC[05:05:47] *** Zhwazi has quit IRC[05:07:27] *** icarus902 has quit IRC[05:07:29] *** jthunder__ has joined #opensolaris[05:10:36] *** jthunder_ has quit IRC[05:11:02] *** Zhwazi has joined #opensolaris[05:12:47] *** Plazma has left #opensolaris[05:17:35] *** echobinary has quit IRC[05:18:00] *** Odin- has quit IRC[05:25:55] *** zedrich has joined #opensolaris[05:27:14] *** echobinary has joined #opensolaris[05:28:50] *** iFire has quit IRC[05:29:16] *** iFire has joined #opensolaris[05:29:53] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[05:31:03] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC[05:43:52] *** jthunder__ has quit IRC[05:45:37] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[05:50:11] *** jthunder has quit IRC[06:01:29] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[06:04:20] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[06:06:26] <heldchen> stupid beginner's question: how can i add /usr/local/bin to the global search path, so that it is set for all users?[06:08:59] <jamesd2> /etc/profile or /etc/default/login[06:10:15] <heldchen> will that also be used by smf services?[06:10:29] *** man_with_a_stick has quit IRC[06:11:44] *** ozux has quit IRC[06:13:24] <jamesd2> i'm not sure what is sourced in smf scripts, probaby have to test, though if you write your own scripts i would suggest you add your own custom path in them[06:15:12] *** projectmoon has quit IRC[06:15:17] <heldchen> ok thanks, jamesd[06:23:19] *** derchris has quit IRC[06:23:24] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[06:25:52] *** lblume has quit IRC[06:35:33] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[06:38:12] <lewellyn> heldchen: never trust the system $PATH to be set in any scripts. you'll save yourself headache later :)[06:38:55] <heldchen> i guess apache22 uses it, seems to recognize imagemagick in /usr/local/bin now :)[06:43:59] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[06:45:27] *** ram| has joined #opensolaris[06:47:32] *** ram| has left #opensolaris[06:52:28] <jthunder> when I try to start dns-sd I get the following: $ dns-sd -T CoreSolaris _afpovertcp._tcp local 548[06:52:43] <jthunder> DNSService call failed -65537 any ideas?[06:56:43] *** Zauberpo1y has joined #opensolaris[06:59:03] *** Zauberpony has quit IRC[06:59:16] *** nage_ has joined #opensolaris[07:00:39] *** Edgeman has quit IRC[07:09:32] *** Edgeman has joined #opensolaris[07:12:36] *** plat- has quit IRC[07:18:56] *** gm152 has quit IRC[07:22:03] *** jamesd2 has quit IRC[07:22:14] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[07:24:44] *** Kush- has quit IRC[07:25:15] *** Kush- has joined #opensolaris[07:28:38] *** Aria has quit IRC[07:32:52] *** axisys has quit IRC[07:43:11] *** jthunder has quit IRC[07:49:36] *** nage_ has quit IRC[07:51:23] *** devians has quit IRC[08:02:44] *** man_with_a_stick has joined #opensolaris[08:02:46] *** sndcrb has joined #opensolaris[08:04:45] *** hfia has joined #opensolaris[08:18:59] *** tg has quit IRC[08:19:16] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[08:19:22] *** Fallen_Demon has joined #opensolaris[08:28:42] *** nanase has joined #opensolaris[08:29:09] *** myosound has quit IRC[08:32:25] *** man_with_a_stick has left #opensolaris[08:35:28] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[08:37:41] <WebDawg> after a fresh install and little modification my opensolaris box is using 800mb + of memory.[08:37:54] <WebDawg> the gnome system monitor[08:38:00] <WebDawg> is using 112meg.[08:38:01] <WebDawg> why?[08:41:32] *** enderst has quit IRC[08:44:05] <Jondice> WebDawg, gkrellm is using 79mb on my system ... which does seem excessive. Most of that memory is likely being used by zfs[08:44:42] <WebDawg> What?[08:45:14] <WebDawg> 811 webdawg 1 49 0 112M 38M sleep 1:38 1.74% gnome-system-mo[08:45:29] <WebDawg> The clock says its using 25mb[08:47:41] <Jondice> well, all i can say is gnome and gtk apps don't have the best history - maybe some of them still suck[08:48:23] <WebDawg> No. The same apps on my ubuntu box using like 50% less.[08:48:23] *** enderst has joined #opensolaris[08:49:33] <WebDawg> load averages: 0.19, 0.15, 0.13; up 0+05:43:19 01:53:30[08:49:33] <WebDawg> 91 processes: 90 sleeping, 1 on cpu[08:49:33] <WebDawg> CPU states: 89.8% idle, 8.2% user, 2.0% kernel, 0.0% iowait, 0.0% swap[08:49:34] <WebDawg> Kernel: 1119 ctxsw, 36 trap, 626 intr, 2623 syscall, 1 flt[08:49:34] <WebDawg> Memory: 1023M phys mem, 158M free mem, 512M total swap, 512M free swap[08:49:35] <WebDawg> PID USERNAME NLWP PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME CPU COMMAND[08:49:37] <WebDawg> 574 webdawg 1 55 0 61M 49M sleep 3:47 4.88% Xorg[08:49:39] <WebDawg> 811 webdawg 1 49 0 112M 38M sleep 1:43 1.70% gnome-system-mo[08:49:41] <WebDawg> 720 webdawg 3 49 0 6564K 3796K sleep 0:11 1.18% synergyc[08:49:43] <WebDawg> 817 webdawg 2 59 0 114M 30M sleep 0:04 0.76% gnome-terminal[08:49:45] <WebDawg> 785 webdawg 9 49 0 217M 92M sleep 0:42 0.22% firefox-bin[08:49:47] <oninoshiko> pastbin[08:49:47] <WebDawg> 854 webdawg 1 49 0 115M 38M sleep 0:01 0.16% gcalctool[08:49:49] <WebDawg> 631 webdawg 1 59 0 79M 20M sleep 0:01 0.13% metacity[08:49:51] <WebDawg> 823 webdawg 1 59 0 2772K 1844K cpu/1 0:01 0.08% top[08:49:53] <WebDawg> 686 webdawg 1 59 0 103M 25M sleep 0:01 0.08% wnck-applet[08:49:57] <WebDawg> 695 webdawg 2 59 0 104M 26M sleep 0:24 0.07% gnome-netstatus[08:49:58] <bdha> nopaste.[08:49:59] <WebDawg> 633 webdawg 1 59 0 119M 46M sleep 0:07 0.05% gnome-panel[08:50:00] <bdha> ffs.[08:50:01] <WebDawg> 701 root 1 59 0 1636K 1080K sleep 0:14 0.04% gnome-netstatus[08:50:03] <WebDawg> 689 webdawg 1 59 0 84M 22M sleep 0:00 0.02% iiim-panel[08:50:05] <WebDawg> 542 root 1 59 0 9212K 5648K sleep 0:01 0.02% intrd[08:50:07] <WebDawg> 634 webdawg 1 49 0 126M 46M sleep 0:06 0.02% nautilus[08:50:07] *** WebDawg was kicked by bdha (nopaste, please.)[08:50:18] *** WebDawg has joined #opensolaris[08:50:21] <WebDawg> 693 webdawg 1 59 0 85M 25M sleep 0:04 0.01% clock-applet[08:50:23] <WebDawg> 682 webdawg[08:50:27] <richlowe> burn the heretic![08:50:27] <WebDawg> wtf[08:50:29] <WebDawg> nah. I ment to copy one line.[08:50:31] <WebDawg> I ment. To. Copy. One. Line.[08:50:36] *** biant92 has joined #opensolaris[08:52:41] <Jondice> hmm, songbird is using 396mb of mem on my system - and only one tab open! beat that![08:52:46] <WebDawg> http://pastebin.com/eTsDEnh5[08:52:49] <WebDawg> Dude.[08:52:52] <WebDawg> That pastbin.[08:52:55] <WebDawg> Is INSANE>[08:53:08] <WebDawg> Like the OS wasnt complilied right or something.[08:53:29] <WebDawg> Or complied with extra stuff in it.[08:53:50] <WebDawg> Its like the os is created in Java.[08:54:35] <causality> i suggest deleting it and going back to lunix[08:54:52] <WebDawg> I suggest to myself that I find someone to explain it.[08:55:19] <zedrich> WebDawg: heh[08:55:19] <WebDawg> And If I do anything. Its on to BSD then.[08:55:27] <zedrich> you sure thats apples and apples?[08:55:44] <bdha> pmap?[08:55:46] <zedrich> if you look at reserved versus actual memory[08:55:54] <zedrich> then itll look a lot different in ps[08:56:19] <WebDawg> See.[08:56:21] <WebDawg> Exactly.[08:56:27] <WebDawg> I look around.[08:57:23] <WebDawg> Wait.[08:57:38] <WebDawg> Doesnt SIZE = Actual Usage?[08:57:48] <Jondice> is there a reason for svc.configd to be using 3GB of memory? I'm wondering if this is a leak, cause i've been getting some SMF related crashes[08:58:05] <bdha> Jondice: No, that's weird. Check b.o.o?[08:58:55] <bdha> svc.configd should be <~20MB RSS/VSZ.[08:59:23] <Jondice> bdha, yeah my RSS is 2941M[08:59:37] <Jondice> and counting[09:00:58] <Jondice> there's a bug in buster that I filed, which I cannot reply to: CR 6944401[09:01:13] <Jondice> but I just now noticed this apparent memory leak[09:01:20] <Jondice> *bugster[09:02:20] <Jondice> so I'm pretty sure that since I have 9GB on the system, it takes roughly a day or two for svc.configd to die[09:02:59] <bdha> Heh.[09:03:06] <bdha> What build?[09:03:11] <Jondice> 134[09:08:50] *** hypnosis has joined #opensolaris[09:09:21] *** hypnosis has left #opensolaris[09:11:28] <Jondice> I think it first appeared in 134 also, since I was using 133 w/o as much trouble I'm quite sure[09:12:12] <Jondice> though i've had smf become unavailable in the past as well, occasionally[09:12:32] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[09:17:34] *** Yu\2 has joined #opensolaris[09:22:56] *** Gibheer has joined #opensolaris[09:22:57] *** sysspoof_ has joined #opensolaris[09:23:38] *** merzo has quit IRC[09:27:24] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[09:28:55] *** merzo has joined #opensolaris[09:32:02] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[09:33:11] *** Shoggoth has joined #opensolaris[09:42:39] *** fOB has joined #opensolaris[09:44:29] *** sHellUx has joined #opensolaris[09:49:01] *** bitvector2 has quit IRC[09:51:09] *** lblume has joined #opensolaris[09:56:31] *** Garen has quit IRC[09:59:05] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[10:10:48] *** sHellUx_ has joined #opensolaris[10:11:45] *** rservers has quit IRC[10:12:06] *** Kush- has quit IRC[10:13:44] *** dalibor has quit IRC[10:14:21] *** sHellUx has quit IRC[10:14:28] *** bdha has quit IRC[10:16:16] *** Garen has joined #opensolaris[10:16:18] *** rservers has joined #opensolaris[10:19:00] *** eleusis has quit IRC[10:20:49] *** biant92 has left #opensolaris[10:20:54] *** eleusis has joined #opensolaris[10:20:54] *** eleusis has joined #opensolaris[10:21:22] *** Posterdati has quit IRC[10:21:44] *** Posterdati has joined #opensolaris[10:23:07] *** Mdx4 has joined #opensolaris[10:26:03] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[10:33:48] *** hfia has quit IRC[10:39:48] *** w3rd_ has quit IRC[10:41:41] *** w3rd_ has joined #opensolaris[10:49:03] *** merzo has quit IRC[10:50:55] *** murakawa has joined #opensolaris[10:53:22] *** PrickelPit has joined #opensolaris[10:54:27] *** zyn0x has joined #opensolaris[10:54:31] *** zynox has quit IRC[10:54:31] *** zyn0x is now known as zynox[10:56:02] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #opensolaris[10:57:59] *** sHellUx_ has quit IRC[11:04:31] *** murakawa has quit IRC[11:19:27] *** jpd1234 has joined #opensolaris[11:34:27] *** hnhn has joined #opensolaris[11:34:58] *** chendy has joined #opensolaris[11:40:32] *** _madmax_ has joined #opensolaris[11:40:40] *** _madmax_ has left #opensolaris[11:44:57] *** chendy has quit IRC[11:46:09] *** twisti has quit IRC[11:49:12] *** Shoggoth has quit IRC[11:49:27] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[11:55:01] *** jamesd2 has joined #opensolaris[11:57:42] *** sHellUx_ has joined #opensolaris[11:59:27] *** omry|work has quit IRC[12:00:43] *** sysspoof_ has quit IRC[12:05:12] *** jnss_ has joined #opensolaris[12:06:42] *** jnss has quit IRC[12:08:50] *** jpd1234 has quit IRC[12:15:57] *** tosh has joined #opensolaris[12:19:20] *** dalibor has quit IRC[12:24:00] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[12:25:38] *** Teknix has quit IRC[12:26:11] *** Teknix has joined #opensolaris[12:26:21] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[12:27:14] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[12:28:36] *** dalibor has quit IRC[12:33:24] *** zedrich has quit IRC[12:35:52] *** zedrich has joined #opensolaris[12:36:34] *** sergiusens has joined #opensolaris[12:37:13] *** heldchen has quit IRC[12:39:27] *** omry|work has joined #opensolaris[12:42:34] *** heldchen has joined #opensolaris[12:44:51] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[12:46:40] <nikolam> hm, just reading reddwarf.org about page (project darkstar continuation) and first few sentences look a bit familiar.[12:52:19] *** CompanionCube has quit IRC[12:52:21] *** CompanionCube has joined #opensolaris[12:56:14] *** gjl has quit IRC[12:57:01] *** punkermore has joined #opensolaris[13:00:10] <punkermore> #linguistics[13:01:14] *** punkermore is now known as Noganoo[13:02:37] *** milek has joined #opensolaris[13:03:46] *** killermouse0 has joined #opensolaris[13:13:03] *** PrickelPit has quit IRC[13:20:26] *** punkerbraid has joined #opensolaris[13:20:51] <jbit> nikolam: so my project darkstar pen is obsolete? ;([13:21:42] *** Noganoo has quit IRC[13:24:00] <nikolam> jbit, no man, i think it is live and well, reddwarf continues it as I understand[13:24:31] <jbit> :)[13:25:09] <jbit> i went to a dev conference and had "network game programmer" or so on my badge[13:25:27] <jbit> the project darkstar guys spammed me pretty well with pens and documents :)[13:27:20] *** betchou has joined #opensolaris[13:28:54] <punkerbraid> #linguistics[13:29:31] *** dalibor has quit IRC[13:30:39] *** punkerbraid has quit IRC[13:31:57] *** ozux has quit IRC[13:32:42] <nikolam> jbit, how nice :) Orcl stopped spamming me with opensource product information after aquisition and that is sad. But I am mostly uninterested in any closed product, so maybe its a bless. ;)[13:33:06] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[13:34:16] <jbit> i seem to remember somebody saying darkstar worked with jython which made a few more people interested[13:34:27] <jbit> i don't think many people want to write their game server in java[13:36:17] *** sHellUx_ has quit IRC[13:40:45] *** Auralis has left #opensolaris[13:40:54] *** Auralis has joined #opensolaris[13:49:53] *** xinkeT has quit IRC[13:49:56] *** Thrae has quit IRC[13:50:08] *** Thrae has joined #opensolaris[13:50:18] *** xinkeT has joined #opensolaris[13:52:12] *** Thrae has quit IRC[13:52:54] <nikolam> jbit, then in what do you think they can or should make it. and not to be one company project[13:54:58] *** hsp has quit IRC[13:57:35] *** Thrae has joined #opensolaris[13:58:09] <jbit> nikolam: that's a good question that i can't possibly answer :)[13:58:40] <jbit> most people seem to use c#, python or even C++/c for sever side game stuff though[14:00:03] <nikolam> jbit, you know any alternative project that resembles Reddwarf that use those languages?[14:01:02] *** tg has quit IRC[14:01:02] *** omry_ has quit IRC[14:01:09] *** RoyK has joined #opensolaris[14:01:36] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[14:04:25] <jbit> nikolam: nope :)[14:04:39] <nikolam> well, java it is :)[14:05:17] *** ozux has quit IRC[14:05:43] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[14:12:50] *** ozux has quit IRC[14:13:36] *** gm152 has joined #opensolaris[14:14:50] *** omry_ has joined #opensolaris[14:16:22] *** Beket has joined #opensolaris[14:19:13] *** betchou has quit IRC[14:23:35] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[14:27:41] *** Odin- has quit IRC[14:30:08] *** mroconnor has quit IRC[14:32:20] *** RoyK has quit IRC[14:38:41] *** snuff-home2 has joined #opensolaris[14:39:06] *** ma3x_ has joined #opensolaris[14:41:39] *** snuff-home has quit IRC[14:42:16] *** jmcp has quit IRC[14:42:55] *** ma3x has quit IRC[14:43:15] *** ma3x_ is now known as ma3x[14:44:25] *** jmcp has joined #opensolaris[14:44:25] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jmcp[14:45:04] <nikolam> anyone have idea how well could 3D apps work from linux Zone or VM?[14:46:02] <nikolam> And also VirtualGL for opensolaris. 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But file is not here. Nothing.[16:12:26] <lblume> I run it again, same output, and file is here.[16:15:15] <tomww> stored on NFS?[16:15:32] <lblume> In /tmp[16:16:02] <tsoome> if you remove the file, can you repeat the effect?[16:19:10] <lblume> I'm trying.[16:19:31] <lblume> Is there a working pastebin where I can show my terminal?[16:21:51] <tsoome> nah, if you are able to repeat it, try running scp with truss and check if the open/write/close operations seems to behave normally[16:22:03] *** chendy has quit IRC[16:22:07] <lblume> It seems to work now.[16:22:25] <tsoome> if the scp will appear to copy file but file wont show, does sync command will make it appear?[16:22:34] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris[16:23:43] <lblume> I'd have said that .tmp, of all FS, would be sync'd all the time[16:24:31] *** TomJ has joined #opensolaris[16:25:43] <lblume> Wow[16:25:47] <lblume> There *IS* a problem[16:25:54] <tsoome> ?[16:26:13] <lblume> Another file, downloaded with FF. ls shows it, but shen trying to make a diff between it and another, it tells me "no such file or directory"[16:26:34] <tsoome> build?[16:27:01] <lblume> 133[16:27:19] <tsoome> if reboot wont help, you may wanna try 134[16:27:36] <lblume> I tried it, but had major issues with it.[16:29:15] <lblume> Very strange...... I'll poke around and see if I'm doing something really goofy or what.[16:29:32] <tsoome> broken ram issues?[16:31:15] <lblume> I really hope not! I tested it when I bought it, about one year ago.[16:32:24] *** batschul has joined #opensolaris[16:33:22] <tsoome> well, /tmp is tmpfs and is directly related to virtual memory system. wierd behaviour in /tmp does hint about potential ram issues...[16:33:38] <lblume> Yes, I know :-([16:34:29] *** cmbntr has joined #opensolaris[16:37:41] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[16:38:01] *** cmbntr has quit IRC[16:39:37] *** kmays has joined #opensolaris[16:39:49] <kmays> b134a?[16:39:59] <kmays> :/[16:40:42] *** RoyK has joined #opensolaris[16:41:06] <kmays> I remember that b138 was going to be released first, Then, b134a.[16:43:12] <CosmicDJ> and... did they release 138, yet?[16:45:16] *** lateau has quit IRC[16:46:13] <kmays> No...so there you have it.[16:46:41] <kmays> This week though.[16:47:05] *** gm152 has quit IRC[16:51:16] *** Vanuatoo has quit IRC[16:51:32] *** Vanuatoo has joined #opensolaris[16:56:11] *** vivid has joined #opensolaris[17:08:18] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[17:08:27] *** p3rror has quit IRC[17:08:37] *** ROKO__ has left #opensolaris[17:18:21] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[17:19:26] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[17:19:44] *** kmays has left #opensolaris[17:22:16] *** sergiusens has quit IRC[17:22:17] *** vivid has quit IRC[17:24:50] *** vivid has joined #opensolaris[17:28:03] *** p3rror has joined #opensolaris[17:32:42] *** murakawa has joined #opensolaris[17:33:03] *** twisti has quit IRC[17:33:33] *** nikolam has quit IRC[17:34:18] *** nikolam has joined #opensolaris[17:35:00] *** rmorse has joined #opensolaris[17:37:18] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[17:43:06] <RoyK> hi all. I need to allow ssh in as root, but it won't work - I've updated sshd_config and restarted ssh, even tried to reboot, but it just won't let me in. nothing in the logs either[17:44:20] <bdrewery_> RoyK: I'm new too, I saw someone say that root is a role, not a user and that you have to convert it to an actual user[17:44:39] <tsoome> you cant log in as role.[17:45:02] <tsoome> why you need root?[17:47:08] <RoyK> root's not a user??[17:47:18] <RoyK> it's in /etc/passwd[17:47:27] <tsoome> how long you are using opensolaris?[17:47:59] <RoyK> what's that got to do with it?[17:48:00] <tsoome> roles are listed in passwd, btw[17:48:08] <RoyK> ok[17:48:13] <tsoome> a bit surprised you had no clue;)[17:48:33] <tsoome> anyhow, in most cases you dont really log root over network[17:48:38] <RoyK> never looked into that[17:48:46] <tsoome> thats the reason its role anyhow;)[17:48:57] <RoyK> i thought it was like s10[17:49:18] <RoyK> anyway - it was for zfs send/receive, but I guess I'll make a separate user for that and delegate[17:49:18] <tsoome> for things like zfs receive etc you can create "normal" user with zfs admin profile for example[17:49:22] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC[17:49:25] <tsoome> or delegate, yes[17:49:31] <RoyK> catch you later[17:49:34] * RoyK runs for the bus[17:49:35] *** RoyK has quit IRC[17:50:22] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[17:52:28] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[17:53:22] *** swa_work has joined #opensolaris[17:55:22] *** Fallen_Demon has quit IRC[17:58:56] *** jpd1234 has joined #opensolaris[18:09:58] *** ingenthr1 has joined #opensolaris[18:12:28] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[18:15:11] *** doug_ndndn has quit IRC[18:15:22] *** piwi has joined #opensolaris[18:15:23] *** jnss_ is now known as jnss[18:23:23] *** derchris has quit IRC[18:23:28] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[18:24:13] *** swa_work has quit IRC[18:29:12] *** swa_work has joined #opensolaris[18:32:18] *** ingenthr1 has quit IRC[18:33:07] *** afrasi has joined #opensolaris[18:35:54] *** pegasus-rider has joined #opensolaris[18:37:16] *** MarsRouter has joined #opensolaris[18:37:47] <pegasus-rider> Hello. Prompt please if there is a Solaris distribution with Marvell Yukon NIC drives integrated?[18:38:47] <tsoome> man google[18:42:26] <pegasus-rider> Do you think it's trivial to find out? I'm not asking about drivers, I'm asking about distributions that integrated it. OS 2009.06 hasn't.[18:43:15] <gosx> pegasus-rider: there is no opensolaris distribution with those drivers built in[18:43:21] <gosx> not that i've seen[18:43:35] <gosx> they're easy enough to download and install though[18:57:39] *** IPGHOST has joined #opensolaris[18:59:51] *** asbeta has joined #opensolaris[19:00:03] *** MarsRouter has quit IRC[19:02:19] *** tg has quit IRC[19:07:11] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[19:09:14] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[19:10:29] *** Kush- has joined #opensolaris[19:13:23] *** RoyK has joined #opensolaris[19:21:42] *** vivid has quit IRC[19:27:51] *** myosound has quit IRC[19:29:10] *** afrasi has quit IRC[19:36:44] <mui> anybody got dtrace script for total nfs ops over clients?[19:39:27] <Triskelios> should be easy to write one yourself, here's the docs: http://wikis.sun.com/display/DTrace/nfsv4+Provider[19:40:37] <Triskelios> oh hah, one of the examples is already pretty close, you just need to aggregate[19:43:42] *** soro has joined #opensolaris[19:45:06] <tsoome> did you check kstat?[19:45:58] *** IPGHOST has quit IRC[19:46:17] *** IPGHOST has joined #opensolaris[19:51:17] *** Seeder has joined #opensolaris[19:54:15] *** batschul has quit IRC[19:55:40] *** devians[w] has quit IRC[19:56:01] *** devians[w] has joined #opensolaris[19:57:26] *** sk0rd has joined #opensolaris[19:57:47] <RoyK> zfs send/receives works with snapshots, right - but what should I do when I have automatic snapshotting? I see there's something in the works to allow autosnap to zfs send, which is nice, but I still don't see how I can send hundreds of snapshots, or even how to get started[19:57:50] * RoyK is confused[20:00:36] <Triskelios> tsoome: kstat would only show a snapshot of server-wide totals, not per client[20:02:26] <Triskelios> RoyK: you send each snapshot or range of snapshots incrementally[20:02:51] <RoyK> Triskelios: is there a way to say 'everything before this snapshot'?[20:03:24] <tsoome> you are hoing to zfs receive or just save stream in file?[20:03:35] <RoyK> send/receive[20:03:43] <RoyK> just got a backup box[20:03:48] <tsoome> if with zfs receive, then send first snap as full, then use -I[20:04:18] <RoyK> 'first' as in oldest?[20:04:24] <Triskelios> it's all in the man page[20:04:38] <RoyK> Triskelios: the manual is a little confusing[20:05:29] <tsoome> you cant suse incremental receive if you dont have first snapshot at receiving site[20:05:36] *** IPGHOST has quit IRC[20:05:36] <tsoome> use*[20:05:52] <RoyK> ok - I'll do some testing[20:06:15] <Triskelios> RoyK: -R is a full send with all dependents, thereafter you use -i or -I[20:06:39] <tsoome> and -i will send diff between 2 snaps, while -I will send that same diff with all individual snapshots you may have in between[20:06:53] <tsoome> so -I will preserve all snapshots you have[20:07:15] <RoyK> thanks - will try -R first, then[20:12:30] <RoyK> so, something like this? zfs send -R dpool/delphi | ssh skade zfs receive urd-backup/delphi[20:18:03] *** OclkdMan has joined #opensolaris[20:20:49] *** IEEE has joined #opensolaris[20:20:51] <IEEE> hi[20:20:55] <IEEE> how are you?[20:21:34] *** IEEE is now known as adahlawi[20:25:18] <RoyK> hm... 'zfs send -R dpool/delphi@initsend | ssh skade /usr/sbin/zfs receive urd-backup/delphi' tells me 'cannot receive new filesystem stream: permission denied'. The receive user has been granted receive,create,snapshot,destroy[20:26:19] <tsoome> i went for easy way and just used zfs admin profile and pfexec[20:27:00] <tsoome> that way i didnt depend on filesystem properties[20:27:21] <RoyK> I thought it'd be nice to do thing 'proper' :)[20:27:27] *** longcat has joined #opensolaris[20:27:32] <tsoome> well, both are proper[20:27:55] <RoyK> sure, but pfexec isn't that sexy :P[20:28:42] <tsoome> i think you would need to set those delegations on sending side as well and.... im not sure they are set at receive side[20:28:52] *** tg has quit IRC[20:28:57] <tsoome> never did test it tho[20:29:37] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[20:30:10] *** relling has joined #opensolaris[20:31:02] <longcat> Oh well I'll enjoy the last release of opensolaris[20:31:08] <longcat> what a bummer[20:31:10] *** longcat has left #opensolaris[20:31:14] *** wilx has left #opensolaris[20:34:05] *** hemantha has quit IRC[20:34:19] *** hemantha has joined #opensolaris[20:34:25] *** PrickelPit has quit IRC[20:35:05] *** vivid has joined #opensolaris[20:35:38] *** swa_work has quit IRC[20:36:10] <RoyK> anyone that can recommend something != ssh for zfs send/receive? it's rather heavy on the receiving cpu (which is rather old)[20:36:51] *** doug_ndndn has joined #opensolaris[20:37:12] <tsoome> rcp?[20:37:25] *** sponix has joined #opensolaris[20:37:57] <hnhn> netcat?[20:38:00] <tsoome> copy stream file to receiving side with nfs and pick it up with like cron?[20:38:25] <tsoome> it does not *have to* piped;)[20:38:35] <tsoome> be piped*[20:41:21] *** adahlawi has quit IRC[20:42:55] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[20:44:09] <piwi> doesnt ssh have a modus without encryption?[20:48:02] *** hnhn has quit IRC[20:49:36] <piwi> sorry, seems i im wrong: "Depends on the software. The SSH2 spec has a "none" cipher but it's listed as "NOT RECOMMENDED" and some implementations (eg OpenSSH)don't support it. "[20:49:47] <piwi> http://www.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.security.ssh/2005-01/0194.html[20:54:51] *** sergiusens has joined #opensolaris[20:57:11] *** murakawa has quit IRC[20:59:13] <OclkdMan> hi all. what are the plans for future crossbow development after this news? http://sunaytripathi.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/its-not-a-goodbye-leaving-oracle-but-not-solaris/[21:00:04] *** nitrile_ has quit IRC[21:01:35] *** Mdx4 has quit IRC[21:05:52] <RoyK> tsoome: heh - I don't have 20TB "spare" for that :)[21:06:20] <tsoome> well with initial send you need to have patience then:P[21:06:54] <RoyK> guess so[21:10:19] *** bda has joined #opensolaris[21:12:24] *** nitrile has joined #opensolaris[21:12:51] *** bda has quit IRC[21:16:18] *** p3rror has quit IRC[21:18:01] *** bdha has joined #opensolaris[21:18:53] *** fOB has quit IRC[21:19:44] *** raphi has quit IRC[21:19:48] *** raphi has joined #opensolaris[21:20:10] *** JonathanYC has joined #opensolaris[21:20:13] <JonathanYC> Hello :D[21:20:15] *** twisti has quit IRC[21:20:23] <JonathanYC> Is it possible to install Eclipse with PDT on OpenSolaris?[21:20:34] <JonathanYC> I know there is an eclipse package in the repository, but I can't find one for PDT.[21:22:31] *** OclkdMan has quit IRC[21:23:07] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[21:24:11] <Triskelios> JonathanYC: you'll probably have to build the PDT yourself[21:24:33] <JonathanYC> Hi Triskelios! OK. I'll try that. That's too bad though. :([21:25:43] <JonathanYC> I'm just rather afraid of trying, as a bunch of people seem to say that doing so is "nightmarish"[21:25:50] <JonathanYC> For example, this guy: (I have spent about 5 hours trying to get 3.4 to install the packages it needs to use PDT for PHP development and it is utterly nightmarish.)[21:27:13] *** sergiusens has quit IRC[21:27:28] <Triskelios> I recall building the CDT wasn't too bad once you got over Eclipse's build system, don't know if the PDT would be much different[21:29:42] *** p3rror has joined #opensolaris[21:29:53] <JonathanYC> OK, thanks :)[21:34:29] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[21:34:29] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[21:43:55] <eklof> Any news/rumnours about ZFS encryption? Moffet is silent as a lamb lately. I beleive the code-review was in january/february and Q1 is soon gone which was set as integration target. Or is there some news i've missed?[21:44:59] *** LaidBack_01 has joined #opensolaris[21:45:37] <Beket> perhaps oracle will keep zfs crypto as added value, who knows ?[21:46:20] <eklof> sneaky bastards! :)[21:46:56] <LaidBack_01> they need to have something to make money off of... can't just depend on service contracts.[21:47:13] *** soro has quit IRC[21:47:52] *** agrajag has quit IRC[21:48:10] *** hunter has joined #opensolaris[21:50:33] *** Mousk4r1 has joined #opensolaris[21:52:52] *** Mousk4r has quit IRC[21:54:22] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[22:00:28] *** e1kg has quit IRC[22:00:45] *** winstonw has quit IRC[22:00:58] *** winstonw has joined #opensolaris[22:02:47] *** ivo_ has joined #opensolaris[22:06:50] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[22:10:01] *** OclkdMan has joined #opensolaris[22:11:50] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[22:12:30] *** twisti has quit IRC[22:13:19] <duckinator> So, I set up a static ip via nwam, and nslookup/dig can resolve domains, but nothing else can (that i know of...ping, traceroute, irssi, etc, aren't working)..anyone know what might cause that?[22:14:08] <tsoome> man nsswitch.conf[22:14:34] <tsoome> pkill nscd if nsswitch.conf is ok[22:15:34] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[22:15:42] <duckinator> tsoome: idk if that's right or not, they're all set to 'files'..[22:15:49] <duckinator> but /etc/resolv.conf has the right info in it[22:16:09] <tsoome> you need dns on hosts and ipnodes line[22:16:36] <duckinator> however i cant seem to edit anything in /etc....[22:16:37] <duckinator> even with pfexec[22:17:36] *** Aria has joined #opensolaris[22:20:07] *** datadigger has quit IRC[22:22:59] <tsoome> su root then[22:24:12] <duckinator> "Roles can only be assumed by authorized users"[22:24:15] * duckinator thinks he's found a new doorstop[22:24:54] <tsoome> use user with correct rights[22:25:02] <duckinator> tsoome: it's odd, i have full privileges to the entire system when using gnome....but cant do shit from ssh[22:25:50] <tsoome> messed up pam.conf?[22:26:00] <duckinator> shouldn't be, i never touched it..[22:26:20] <duckinator> i never edited anything in /etc, it's always said permission denied when i try[22:26:33] *** hunter has quit IRC[22:26:38] <tsoome> su to yourself, see if it will fix?[22:27:08] <duckinator> i can su to myself, not to root[22:27:42] *** Mdx4 has joined #opensolaris[22:28:07] <tsoome> try roles and profiles commands after you did su to yourself[22:28:23] *** OclkdMan has quit IRC[22:28:26] <duckinator> what do you mean?[22:28:26] <tsoome> did you replace ssh?[22:28:33] <tsoome> man roles, man profiles[22:28:39] <duckinator> no, i didn't replace ssh[22:29:06] <duckinator> I apparently have no roles, but nearly every profile[22:29:29] <tsoome> every profile?[22:30:00] <duckinator> i looked at the list last night in gnome (didn't edit it since i didn't know what it did), and it looks like about the same # of profiles from `profiles nick` as it showed in that list[22:30:18] <duckinator> brb[22:30:52] <tsoome> then try pfexec usermod -R root youraccount[22:31:14] <tsoome> and you have removed Primary Administrator profile from your account.[22:31:47] <tsoome> you dont need to add *nearly all* profiles, esp if you have Primary Administrator[22:31:59] <duckinator> tsoome: permission denied[22:33:10] <tsoome> well, since you have locked yourself out, if you dont have that gnome session, only way to get it back is to boot to single user....[22:33:33] <duckinator> tsoome: well i've logged in and out of gnome, rebooted, etc... every time i log into gnome, i have full privs[22:33:37] <duckinator> every time i open a terminal or ssh, i dont have any[22:34:15] <duckinator> brb, i'll go log back into gnome[22:40:13] *** relling has quit IRC[22:41:08] *** duck[osol] has joined #opensolaris[22:41:11] <duck[osol]> well then[22:41:24] <duck[osol]> SOME stuff is workign in gnome now...[22:41:29] *** LaidBack_01 has quit IRC[22:41:35] <duck[osol]> but not all of it, as it was earlier[22:41:57] <tsoome> if you get to root, fix your rights first[22:42:06] <duck[osol]> can't get to root :([22:42:10] <duck[osol]> i got networking to work though[22:42:30] *** milek has quit IRC[22:42:32] <duck[osol]> with dhcp...and all of this trouble came from me trying to use a static ip instead of dhcp xD[22:42:38] <tsoome> then boot it to single user, login with root password and fix your profile[22:42:45] *** dalibor_ has joined #opensolaris[22:42:53] *** Odin- has quit IRC[22:43:11] *** RoyK has quit IRC[22:43:11] <duck[osol]> System->Administration->Users and Groups is not working though, for some reason..it's merely not loading[22:43:16] <duck[osol]> tsoome: but idk what's wrong with it[22:43:35] <tsoome> you removed your rights[22:43:47] <duck[osol]> but idk how, considering that i haven't changed any...[22:44:03] *** dalibor_ has quit IRC[22:44:05] <tsoome> you should not mess around with stuff you dont understand yet[22:44:28] <duck[osol]> the only thing i've configured at all was networking, and that was using nwam[22:44:39] <tsoome> well, see if you have any user listed to use root role in /etc/user_attr[22:44:50] <tsoome> or Promary Administrator profile[22:44:54] *** noyb has joined #opensolaris[22:44:54] <tsoome> primary*[22:45:46] <duck[osol]> i have primary administrator profile on this account[22:46:05] *** sponix has quit IRC[22:46:31] <duck[osol]> `cat /etc/user_attr | grep -i "primary administrator"` lists this account, and only this one[22:47:11] <tsoome> profiles command output?[22:47:50] <duck[osol]> `profiles nick | wc -l ` -> 94[22:47:57] <duck[osol]> first line is blank, second is "nick:" so 92 profiles for some unknown reason[22:48:28] <duck[osol]> that's definitely not right... i have less than 5 on my laptop which has failed far less than this install[22:48:51] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[22:51:19] <tsoome> well user_attr wont change by itself[22:52:13] *** sponix has joined #opensolaris[22:52:44] <duck[osol]> that's part of what's confusing the hell out of me, i saw i had all those profiles except like 2 or 3 disabled last night and wasn't sure why[22:53:04] <duck[osol]> i might jsut reinstall, this install seems completely trashed[22:54:46] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[22:55:09] *** randw has joined #opensolaris[22:57:01] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[22:57:42] *** vraa has joined #opensolaris[22:57:52] *** pegasus-rider has quit IRC[22:58:06] <vraa> hi everyone, i'm having a slight issue with smb, i have edited the smb.conf file and restarted smbd, but the shares are not updating[22:58:19] <vraa> ie: when i go to my win box and browse to the smb share on the osol box, i still see the old stuff[22:58:35] *** TomJ has quit IRC[22:58:52] *** TomJ has joined #opensolaris[22:58:57] *** gm152 has joined #opensolaris[22:59:49] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[23:06:17] *** Beket has quit IRC[23:07:49] *** duck[osol] has quit IRC[23:09:34] *** myosound has quit IRC[23:10:35] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[23:13:26] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[23:14:22] *** Netwolf has quit IRC[23:17:53] *** asbeta has quit IRC[23:18:19] *** dalibor_ has joined #opensolaris[23:19:24] <nikolam> I am thinking.. If I remove package "Entire". can i install newer applications from repository then? (if I am on older /dev snv_number release then latest)[23:25:18] <tsoome> you have pkg image-update for such task.[23:25:40] *** totzillo has joined #opensolaris[23:26:11] *** totzillo is now known as Hedonista_[23:26:53] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[23:27:03] *** Hedonista_ is now known as Hedonista[23:27:29] <nikolam> tsoome, well It would update all packages, right?[23:27:38] <tsoome> yes.[23:27:58] <tsoome> and in safe way.[23:28:00] <nikolam> I am thinking about updating only newer apps etc, but base system to stay on current snv_version[23:28:44] <tsoome> well, what you think, what will happen if the newer app is built against newer libc and wont find sysmbols it needs?[23:28:50] <tsoome> symbols*[23:29:40] <tsoome> if you need to stick on specific build, use /release, not /dev[23:30:33] <vraa> i did "kill process#here" against /usr/lib/smbsrv/sm but it still doesn't refresh from the updated /etc/sfw/smb.conf[23:30:44] <vraa> although i have listed NO shares in the smb.conf, i can still browse my old shares :([23:30:57] <vraa> even the SWAT configuration tool shows up the correct smb.conf with no shares in it[23:31:03] *** killermouse0 has quit IRC[23:31:11] <tsoome> are you sure you are using samba?[23:31:43] <vraa> i think so, i have a number of win7 pc's and a osol v134 server[23:32:04] <tsoome> solaris has 2 implementations off smb service[23:32:37] <heldchen> vraa: svcs | grep smb/server[23:33:06] *** ozux has quit IRC[23:36:25] <x58> vraa: sharemgr show -v[23:36:31] <x58> Is that listing the shares?[23:38:28] *** iFire has left #opensolaris[23:39:01] <vraa> hold on my putty.exe is slow let me restart it[23:41:20] *** datadigger has joined #opensolaris[23:41:40] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[23:41:45] *** ravenslay3r has joined #opensolaris[23:43:21] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[23:43:31] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[23:43:56] <nikolam> tsoome, I needed newer apps nad security updates. Those basic things you won`t get on /release.[23:44:24] <tsoome> then use /dev[23:45:06] *** Netwolf has joined #opensolaris[23:46:11] <tsoome> but yes, the upgrade method is still pkg image-update.[23:46:35] <vraa> http://osol.pastebin.com/bL6b4kgG[23:46:47] <vraa> it should show nothing[23:47:11] *** PatrickS has quit IRC[23:47:21] <tsoome> well, you are using in kernel smb service and it got *nothing* to do with samba nor samba config.[23:47:34] <tsoome> nor swat.[23:48:11] <Netwolf> hi folks. I'm trying to install Opensolaris or SXCE build 31 on my blade 2500 which has a xvr-1200. alanc here was kind enough to tell me that that opensolaris only supports xvr-100 in the pci line. However, I found this link http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/downloads/sparc_graphics which seems to contain drivers. Can or would these drivers simply work by installing them in Opensolaris or are they just for refrence purposes[23:51:05] <vraa> tsoome i see, how does one configure the kernel smb server, and is this the preferred method of using it or should i disable kernel service and try setitng up samba/sambaconfig[23:51:13] *** tsoome has quit IRC[23:51:25] <nikolam> tsoome, well, cant use newest dev because X is freezing beyond 132 And that is also question for newer apps for new /release[23:51:50] <nikolam> As far as i understand, there is /contrib for new apps for /release[23:52:30] <nikolam> But there is not publisher available, for newer versions of Apps that are already included inside /release[23:52:43] <nikolam> So one using /release stays forever on old applications[23:53:16] <nikolam> If there is such a publisher/repo, feel free to say[23:54:13] <CosmicDJ> well he quit, but I bet he'd say: feel free to create one ;)[23:54:13] <vraa> x58, do you use kernel or samba?[23:54:36] <x58> I am on the /release and thus use Samba since the in kernel SMB service can sometimes lock up and stop functioning.[23:54:52] <x58> If you are on /dev I would use the in kernel one[23:55:05] <nikolam> CosmicDJ, yes, I know, that would meen, like backporting repo. For apps for a starter.[23:55:12] *** kimc has quit IRC[23:55:21] <vraa> i understand. do you know where i can read more on how to distinct between the two so i can learn how to configure the kernel smb?[23:55:23] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[23:55:31] *** kimc has left #opensolaris[23:55:40] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[23:55:45] *** kimc has left #opensolaris[23:56:20] <CosmicDJ> vraa: well samba is samba and the smb stuff is the in-kernel cifs stuff, google opensolaris cifs should find some guides/howtos[23:56:34] <x58> vraa: man sharemgr[23:58:21] <vraa> so cifs = kernel, samba = not kernel[23:58:39] <vraa> thx so sharemgr = cifs, svcadm samba = samba[23:58:45] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[23:59:13] <stallion> jmcp: gdamore: around?[23:59:34] *** Hedonista has joined #opensolaris