April 23, 2010 
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April 23, 2010 [00:02:10] *** jacotton has quit IRC[00:04:56] <alanc> gdamore: the OGB has never been about representing the sponsor's interests, so it's hardly a reason to disband it, just keep ignoring it as always[00:05:14] <crazed> rofl[00:05:30] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[00:05:36] <alanc> seems far more likely that it reverts to it's original name of Community Advisory Board, which far better reflects what it does anyway[00:08:17] *** z0mbix has quit IRC[00:08:38] <skullone_> you guys might have me to blame for the holdup =/[00:08:40] *** wrapster has quit IRC[00:09:02] <skullone_> i opened a couple sev-1 cases about the dedupe bug under my support contract =/[00:09:11] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[00:09:25] *** twisti has quit IRC[00:09:57] *** timeless_mbp has quit IRC[00:11:15] *** timeless_mbp has joined #opensolaris[00:11:15] *** timeless_mbp has joined #opensolaris[00:17:12] *** JonathanYC has joined #opensolaris[00:17:19] <JonathanYC> Hello :D[00:17:39] <JonathanYC> Sometimes my USB mouse doesn't respond at the stop.[00:17:51] <JonathanYC> It either has no power or has power but doesn't work[00:18:04] <lewellyn> unplug it and plug it back in?[00:18:07] <JonathanYC> If I unplug it and plug it in again, that sometimes fixes it[00:18:14] <JonathanYC> Hi lewellyn :D[00:18:26] <lewellyn> moo[00:18:32] <lewellyn> is it plugged into a hub?[00:18:39] <JonathanYC> Yep[00:18:48] *** yoana has joined #opensolaris[00:18:50] <lewellyn> don't do that :)[00:19:04] <lewellyn> there seem to be random issues with input devices attached to hubs :([00:19:16] <lewellyn> i've certainly never found the rhyme nor reason[00:19:45] <JonathanYC> Heh[00:19:46] *** yoana has quit IRC[00:19:53] <JonathanYC> Ok, thanks :)[00:20:01] <JonathanYC> It was an old hub anywho[00:20:53] <lewellyn> probably part of the problem[00:21:30] *** Mdx4 has quit IRC[00:21:57] *** yarihm has joined #opensolaris[00:23:45] <JonathanYC> Eh, just tried it again directly connected. Same proble[00:24:20] <JonathanYC> It is getting power though[00:24:52] *** wrapster has joined #opensolaris[00:27:09] *** dalibor has quit IRC[00:28:54] *** _madmax_ has joined #opensolaris[00:29:09] *** moepmoep has quit IRC[00:30:47] *** JonathanYC has quit IRC[00:30:52] *** JonathanYC_ has joined #opensolaris[00:30:55] <JonathanYC_> Hello :D[00:31:03] <JonathanYC_> I've since found that the problem is isolated to that particular USB mouse.[00:31:10] <JonathanYC_> However, it works perfectly fine on my Windows machine.[00:32:15] <JonathanYC_> Eh, I take that back. All USB mice fail to work (except for the wireless one)[00:32:36] *** JonathanYC has joined #opensolaris[00:32:43] *** moepmoep has joined #opensolaris[00:32:48] *** jacotton has joined #opensolaris[00:35:36] *** winstonw0 has quit IRC[00:37:20] *** JonathanYC_ has quit IRC[00:43:07] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[00:44:08] *** JonathanYC has quit IRC[00:44:55] *** sand_man has joined #opensolaris[00:46:40] *** piwi_ has joined #opensolaris[00:47:03] *** comay has joined #opensolaris[00:47:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay[00:48:56] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[00:50:06] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris[00:50:48] <samc> I've found a bug in the XVM hypervisor in b134 .. is defect.opensolaris.org the right place to raise it?[00:51:25] *** _madmax_ has quit IRC[00:51:33] *** jpd1234 has quit IRC[00:52:50] <lewellyn> if it's not, someone will move it :)[00:55:15] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[00:55:16] *** infomomo has joined #opensolaris[00:55:29] *** infomomo has left #opensolaris[00:56:21] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[00:56:45] *** tg has quit IRC[00:57:19] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[00:57:24] <comay> samc bugs.opensolaris.org actually[00:58:18] *** Chotizei has joined #opensolaris[00:58:53] <Chotizei> hm, I can't seem to get adobe flash player 10 working on opensolaris-dev neither with firefox nor with opera.[00:59:41] <comay> Chotizei which version of opensolaris are you using?[00:59:41] <Chotizei> I have copied the libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/firefox/plugins or $HOME/.mozilla/plugins, it just won't realize it's there.[00:59:55] <Chotizei> snv_134[01:00:00] <Chotizei> x86[01:01:35] <comay> Chotizei be sure you have library/medialib installed ("pkg list library/medialib")[01:02:56] <Chotizei> installing...[01:03:36] <Chotizei> takes a little while.. I'll then try again.[01:04:53] *** smrt has quit IRC[01:04:55] <comay> it's a large package so will take some time to download[01:05:08] <Chotizei> should take around 5 secs, but it seems the solaris repository is really slow.[01:05:27] <Chotizei> it loves stalling inbetween downloads ;)[01:07:01] <Chotizei> alright, it's installing now, had to restart the download.[01:07:28] *** yippi has quit IRC[01:09:22] <Chotizei> great, that was the problem.[01:09:31] <Chotizei> what was the dependancy missing for libflashplayer.so? any idea?[01:09:43] <Jondice> i'm also curious[01:09:54] <Jondice> i had this problem on a fresh install of 134[01:09:57] <Jondice> but not updates[01:10:28] <samc> comay: Hrm, I had an opensolaris.org account, but it's coming up 'inactive' if I try to log in ... anything I can do to get it re-enabled?[01:10:41] <Chotizei> this should be published on the web somewhere, I had googled a lot and found nothing about this dependancy.[01:11:19] *** psychicist has quit IRC[01:11:35] <comay> Chotizei the flashplayer package has a direct dependency on medialib although it doesn't need to. medialib is no longer part of the default installation so that's why you were missing it[01:11:50] <Chotizei> i had no choice but the default installation ;)[01:11:57] <comay> did you install flash via our /extra repository or from adobe.com?[01:12:04] <Chotizei> adobe.com[01:12:34] *** nobbi has joined #opensolaris[01:13:17] <Jondice> yes, same here - I think they may have not packaged a file that is needed[01:13:31] <Jondice> i seem to recall there being something other than the .so in the past[01:13:34] <Chotizei> maybe some missing .xpt file?[01:14:04] <comay> nah, the flashplayer.so is just built in a way that requires the library though it need not[01:14:24] <comay> if you had installed flash from our repo, the requisite library would be pulled automatically[01:14:38] <comay> i believe future versions of flash will make the dependency optional[01:14:45] <Jondice> ah[01:15:39] <Chotizei> while I am at it.. is there mp3 decoders available in a repository?[01:16:08] <Chotizei> the default installation can't seem to let me play any mp3, it offers me to download free plugins from a webshop after registration.[01:16:14] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[01:16:18] <Chotizei> (fluendo)[01:17:24] <nobbi> quit[01:17:45] *** nobbi has left #opensolaris[01:18:00] *** Meths has quit IRC[01:18:41] *** Meths has joined #opensolaris[01:19:26] <Chotizei> when trying to install gnome-media-mp3, it tells me to click on "Updates", which would not update anything.[01:19:43] <Chotizei> (can't be installed on its own)[01:20:08] <piwi_> gnome-media-mp3 is from an old version[01:20:28] <piwi_> around build 87 or so there was a mp3 codec available, the new package is just empty[01:20:39] <Chotizei> oh my ;)[01:20:47] <piwi_> the easiest way is to install the fluendo codec[01:20:51] *** Israel_Miranda has quit IRC[01:21:01] <Chotizei> okay, thanks.[01:21:01] <piwi_> its really free and they never bothered me with mails or something[01:21:54] <Jondice> i did buy their other codecs and dvd player, seems descent, though sometimes I still get better performance from mplayer[01:23:09] <Chotizei> I've only let the default installation run out of curiosity.. I usually never run X.[01:23:33] *** _madmax_ has joined #opensolaris[01:23:50] <Chotizei> what was the window manager back in the 90s I used.. CDE?[01:24:13] <jamesd2> or openlook[01:24:51] *** cybernd has quit IRC[01:24:54] <Chotizei> I'll be more interested in opensolaris running as a minimal console-only server... I've seen jeOS, but I'll try to install my own instead... feels funny to be on a solaris desktop again after 15 years tho.[01:25:22] <Chotizei> I'm a linux and netbsd guy otherwise.[01:25:39] *** Openfree has quit IRC[01:25:41] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[01:27:36] <Chotizei> comay, piwi and others: thanks for the friendly help.. I'll go explore some more and then hop back to the shell. see you all around![01:27:58] <piwi_> see you[01:28:19] *** yarihm has quit IRC[01:28:42] <alanc> if it looked like this, it was CDE: http://xwinman.org/screenshots/dtwm.gif[01:28:59] *** smrt has joined #opensolaris[01:29:14] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[01:29:17] <alanc> if it looked more like this, it was OpenWindows: http://xwinman.org/screenshots/olvwm-matt.gif[01:29:22] <Chotizei> oh yes ;)[01:29:40] <Chotizei> CDE[01:30:09] *** projectmoon has joined #opensolaris[01:30:18] <alanc> both, long long gone[01:30:59] <Jondice> isn't cde still part of solaris 10?[01:31:00] <Chotizei> I liked CDE.[01:31:52] <jamesd2> but the spirit of openwindows still lives on in windowmaker ;-)[01:32:16] <Chotizei> CDE is part of solaris 10, yes.[01:32:31] <alanc> Jondice: yes, there's still CDE in Solaris 10[01:32:53] *** dover has joined #opensolaris[01:40:16] *** Chotizei has quit IRC[01:41:26] *** piwi_ has quit IRC[01:41:47] *** falconn19 has joined #opensolaris[01:44:58] *** alanst has joined #opensolaris[01:45:15] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[01:50:14] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[01:54:20] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[01:55:00] <CIA-21> jmcp <James.McPherson at Sun dot COM>: 6593513 make nightly -O cheaper (fix unref)[01:57:42] *** TomJ has quit IRC[01:57:56] *** ttys0_ is now known as ttys0[01:58:09] *** TomJ has joined #opensolaris[01:58:31] *** hunter has quit IRC[02:01:27] *** davenz has joined #opensolaris[02:03:38] *** tosh has quit IRC[02:05:22] *** sergiusens has joined #opensolaris[02:06:35] *** TomJ- has joined #opensolaris[02:07:35] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[02:10:32] *** TomJ has quit IRC[02:19:46] *** jinx099 has joined #opensolaris[02:24:23] *** piwi has quit IRC[02:25:42] *** kukhuvud has quit IRC[02:28:51] *** zazenrasta has quit IRC[02:28:55] <odyi> Is there any central repository of public opensolaris package mirrors?[02:29:14] <odyi> Or someone to talk to becoming an official mirror?[02:33:53] <sstallion> hrmm[02:34:01] <sstallion> no more Oracle members on the board. fantastic.[02:34:31] *** dalibor has quit IRC[02:34:45] *** alanst has quit IRC[02:36:20] <Triskelios> oh dear[02:37:28] <Triskelios> odyi: there isn't a process for "blessing" mirrors, maybe ask pkg-discuss or opensolaris-mirrors[02:37:48] <lewellyn> odyi: there's the main p.o.o and then there's the eu mirror. i think the na mirror is down.[02:37:51] <lewellyn> smrt: explain pkg mirrors[02:37:51] <smrt> Um. I seem to not know anything about pkg mirrors...[02:37:57] <lewellyn> smrt: explain mirrors[02:37:58] <smrt> Um. I seem to not know anything about mirrors...[02:38:02] <lewellyn> lame :P[02:38:12] *** ma3x__ has joined #opensolaris[02:38:13] *** sk0rd has joined #opensolaris[02:39:37] <odyi> I have been mirroring all of /dev internall for some time now and we are going to start making is public at mirrors.cat.pdx.edu but the 8 slot rsync limit is making it really hard for us to keep up to date.[02:41:31] *** ma3x_ has quit IRC[02:41:55] *** kevinw_ is now known as kevinw[02:42:12] <Triskelios> odyi: yeah, definitely ask for some arrangements to be made[02:44:39] *** jbronn has quit IRC[02:45:37] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[02:45:59] *** jbronn has joined #opensolaris[02:48:16] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[02:50:13] *** jthunder_ has joined #opensolaris[02:51:15] *** sstallion is now known as stallion[02:53:09] *** sstallion_work has quit IRC[02:53:33] *** sstallion_work has joined #opensolaris[02:54:11] *** chainey has quit IRC[02:55:00] *** jamesd2 has quit IRC[02:55:08] <CIA-21> Yong-Feng Du <Yongfeng.Du at Sun dot COM>: 6923197 mpt_sas driver should create the phy number property to help locate the disk[02:55:14] *** dalibor has quit IRC[02:55:19] *** jamesd2 has joined #opensolaris[02:55:48] <jthunder_> how can I rest the configuration of syslogd to defaults?[02:55:54] <jthunder_> is there something in smf?[02:58:38] *** wdp_aao has quit IRC[02:59:16] *** zazenrasta has joined #opensolaris[03:03:31] *** vivid has quit IRC[03:04:18] *** vivid has joined #opensolaris[03:06:27] *** vivid has quit IRC[03:07:08] *** vivid has joined #opensolaris[03:08:38] <Triskelios> jthunder_: syslog.conf is still responsible for the main configuration... not sure if running pkg fix after renaming it will replace it, though[03:08:52] *** fleers has quit IRC[03:09:21] <richlowe> I think it will.[03:12:18] *** achester has joined #opensolaris[03:12:18] *** achester has quit IRC[03:12:19] <lewellyn> it should. that seems like the point of pkg fix :)[03:12:38] *** ridout has joined #opensolaris[03:13:04] *** stevel has quit IRC[03:14:27] *** stallion has quit IRC[03:14:27] *** stallion has joined #opensolaris[03:14:27] *** card.freenode.net sets mode: +o stallion[03:15:12] *** stewart has quit IRC[03:20:46] *** stallion has quit IRC[03:21:11] <jthunder_> so just rename syslog.conf and run pfexec pkg fix?[03:21:11] *** comay has quit IRC[03:21:20] *** kevinw has quit IRC[03:21:38] *** kevinw has joined #opensolaris[03:22:24] *** Odin- has quit IRC[03:23:02] <Triskelios> SUNWcs is the package; too bad you can't specify a filename or some other action with fix[03:23:18] *** stallion has joined #opensolaris[03:23:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stallion[03:23:23] <stallion> you know its sad[03:23:48] <stallion> I've been using IRC for 15 years now, and this is the first time I've ever bothered to automate server/channel information[03:24:19] <richlowe> Is the first or second clause the sad one? :)[03:24:25] <stallion> tough call :D[03:25:33] *** bubbva has quit IRC[03:26:00] <stallion> gdamore: ping[03:28:43] <lewellyn> yes. ask gdamore ;)[03:28:59] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[03:29:30] *** Spencer_tt has quit IRC[03:33:00] <jbk> haha[03:33:40] <frankS2> is there any way to do partition encryption with opensolaris?[03:33:55] <frankS2> or encrypted containers[03:33:56] <stallion> did zfs-crypto ever integrate?[03:34:06] <frankS2> no not yet[03:34:08] *** fleers has joined #opensolaris[03:34:14] <Triskelios> frankS2: encrypted lofi[03:35:21] <frankS2> looks doable[03:35:37] <frankS2> guess my laptop is getting opensolaris then :)[03:37:04] *** jthunder__ has joined #opensolaris[03:37:19] <lewellyn> yay encrypted mobile porn![03:37:38] <jthunder__> shoot still same problem[03:37:48] <jbk> haha[03:37:55] <jthunder__> this bug is driving me crazy[03:38:16] <jthunder__> bug == user error (just don't know what one)[03:38:55] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[03:39:55] <jthunder__> I'm going to roll back to a previous snapshot and see if the problem still exists[03:40:11] <jthunder__> then worst case disable syslogd and install syslogd-ng[03:40:34] *** jthunder_ has quit IRC[03:44:23] *** Gman has quit IRC[03:46:23] *** n3kl has joined #opensolaris[03:47:04] *** lordraptor has joined #opensolaris[03:47:23] <lordraptor> hi i dont have cdrw is there a usb image to install to hard drive?[03:47:26] <n3kl> Hello. I have been playing with osol for a couple months now and debating throwing some money at disk storage for more zfs awesomeness. I have a sata controller now that does not seem to present the drives properly because the format command does not show that any of the disks plugged into it are valid of zfs.[03:47:53] <n3kl> I think it has to do with some ide emulation or soemthing, but my question is, what kind of sata controller do I need to buy to make it work with opensolaris?[03:48:27] <Andys^> n3kl: LSI SAS[03:49:00] <n3kl> I'm thinking sata for now. SAS is still a bit pricy.[03:49:51] *** lordraptor has left #opensolaris[03:50:16] *** randw has left #opensolaris[03:51:31] <Andys^> n3kl: how many ports do you need? check out the 1064E card eg. on ebay[03:52:07] *** TomJ- has quit IRC[03:52:37] *** sk0rd has quit IRC[03:53:06] *** randw has joined #opensolaris[03:54:49] *** thistle__ has joined #opensolaris[03:55:42] *** thistle__ has quit IRC[03:56:24] *** TomJ- has joined #opensolaris[03:56:30] *** thistle__ has joined #opensolaris[03:56:45] * stallion grumbles.[03:57:27] <stallion> jmcp: around?[03:57:33] <jmcp> yep[03:57:49] <stallion> wtf is the sderr kstat module created?[03:57:55] <jmcp> in sd ?[03:57:59] <stallion> nope[03:58:00] <jmcp> lemme look[03:58:06] <stallion> that was my first thought[03:58:17] <stallion> grep is chewing through uts[03:59:02] <stallion> weird... nothing[03:59:59] <jbk> heh.. sd.c is a behemoth[04:00:14] <n3kl> Andys^: wierd, what bus is that?[04:00:20] <stallion> I'm not finding 'sderr' anywhere in uts; I wonder if this is in closed somewhere?[04:00:33] <odyi> Can someone please go to http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/opensolaris/pkgs and tell me if you see the pkg repository in mirror mode default page?[04:00:44] <n3kl> Does LSI have goot support on osol?[04:00:52] <stallion> n3kl: nope. jmcp botched it.[04:01:10] <stallion> n3kl: mpt is one of the better drivers actually.[04:01:41] <jmcp> stallion: yes, it is setup in sd.c[04:01:47] <jmcp> sd_create_errstats(), line 9022[04:01:50] <jmcp> and following[04:01:51] <stallion> I must be going blind[04:01:52] <Triskelios> odyi: "Information about packages is not available when the server is operating in mirror mode." - I guess that looks good?[04:01:52] <devians[w]> hey stallion, thanks for your blogpost on managing virtualbox headless with smf, really helped me with my implementation.[04:02:03] <stallion> devians: sure thing; glad someone got some mileage out of that ;)[04:02:18] <odyi> Triskelios: thank you much[04:02:43] <devians[w]> i actually modified it a bit so it detected when (if) the guest os crashed and rebooted it.[04:02:57] <stallion> jmcp: damnit; I was grepping for sderr, not %serr ;P[04:03:01] <jmcp> :-)[04:03:11] <jmcp> I searched for kstat_create, then found where it was called in sd.c[04:03:12] <stallion> devians: I've been meaning to go back and fix a few problems with it[04:03:17] <jmcp> then put 1 and 3 together to get 2[04:03:25] <jbk> stallion: yeah, sd.c is also used to create the ssd driver[04:03:25] <devians[w]> i can give you my copy with mods if you'd like.[04:03:44] <stallion> devians: I appreciate it, but thats okay - I need to overhaul the thing[04:03:50] <devians[w]> fair enough :)[04:04:05] <stallion> bah, sd kills me sometimes[04:04:17] <jmcp> only sometimes?[04:04:18] <stallion> (especially the ssd bits)[04:04:31] <stallion> jmcp: I was trying to be nice, you never know when there are -storage folks around :P[04:04:49] <jmcp> heh[04:05:10] <stallion> hell, attach is bigger than most ethernet drivers[04:05:38] <jbk> haha[04:05:46] <stallion> jmcp: thanks btw, I would fumbled a bit for that :P[04:05:50] <jmcp> yw[04:05:53] <jmcp> cscope ftw![04:05:54] <jmcp> etc etc[04:05:57] *** stewart has quit IRC[04:06:29] <jbk> =][04:06:44] <stallion> that reminds me - I need to dmake cscope.out on this box[04:10:27] <jbk> grr.. i hope whatever it is i came down with this morning is over with by sat...[04:10:35] *** jthunder__ has quit IRC[04:10:48] <stallion> sick?[04:11:12] <jbk> yeah[04:11:17] <jbk> mild sore throat[04:11:38] <jbk> don't want to be sick for the big shows on sat[04:11:54] <jbk> though thankfully, i don't sing =][04:13:07] *** Gman has joined #opensolaris[04:13:07] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Gman[04:13:33] *** Calibellus has quit IRC[04:21:12] *** Norrin has joined #opensolaris[04:23:38] *** Gman_ has joined #opensolaris[04:23:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Gman_[04:25:03] <lewellyn> jbk: but surely you drink! 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I can't keep track[06:11:02] <wrapster> hi guys[06:11:04] <ttys0> after the sun sets, darkness envelops the land, and all lost souls seek out the oracle for guidance through the time of shadow[06:11:56] *** Mousk4r has joined #opensolaris[06:12:05] <wrapster> lewellyn: / sstallion_work : http://pastie.org/930958[06:12:07] <alanc> % time /etc/shadow[06:12:07] <alanc> /etc/shadow: Permission denied.[06:12:28] <odyi> ?[06:12:29] *** vraa_ has joined #opensolaris[06:12:37] <wrapster> if the xml file did indeed specify it as disabled then here the service would not have shown as 'enabled true'..[06:12:48] <wrapster> so somewhere else its setting the value.[06:13:46] <alanc> smf manifests only specify the state at the time they're imported - configuration after that is stored in the smf db[06:14:06] <alanc> default values in the manifests are overridden by values in the profiles applied[06:14:28] <wrapster> alanc: can you please explain a bit more on this. Ive been trying to crack this..[06:14:36] <wrapster> alanc: i'll explain my problem.[06:14:56] <alanc> I think I just explained what I know[06:15:04] <joshua_> ttys0, heh :)[06:15:16] <wrapster> alanc: in that case.. do you where this smf db exists?[06:15:34] <alanc> in /etc/svc/repository.db[06:15:38] <wrapster> in the onnv-gate source. not the installed machined.[06:15:41] <wrapster> machine[06:15:54] <alanc> the profiles are in /var/svc/profile/[06:16:10] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[06:16:26] <alanc> I don't think the db exists in the gate source - it's created on the installed machine when the manifests are imported[06:16:33] <jmcp> correct[06:17:20] <alanc> it's a sqlite binary file, not something you'd check into a source tree[06:17:36] <wrapster> alanc: hmm then your telling me that while importing the manifest file there are issues..?[06:17:59] <wrapster> coz i clearly see that on other osol machines svcs -l smb/client is marked as 'enabled false'[06:18:03] <alanc> are there issues? I don't know[06:18:46] <alanc> <service name='network/smb/client' version='1' type='service'>[06:18:47] <alanc> <instance name='default' enabled='true'/>[06:18:55] <richlowe> alanc: no, that one is old, but it can't have avoided mentioning RF[06:19:13] <alanc> in /var/svc/profile/generic_open.xml - so if that profile was applied, you'd expect it to be enabled[06:20:11] <richlowe> A seed repository is created during the build, using private copies of the SMF tools built for the built and linked relative to the build machine not the target.[06:20:18] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[06:20:26] <richlowe> but in no case do you want to screw around with the DB using anything except the actual SMF interfaces.[06:21:01] <wrapster> alanc: yes that exactly what i was coming to.. i looked at it and in the generic.xml file its enabled.[06:21:09] <wrapster> but that is not a part of the onnv-gate source.[06:21:29] <jmcp> wrapster: I'm not sure I understand what your actual problem is - could you give some specifics please?[06:21:32] <richlowe> generic_*.xml are both in onnv[06:21:40] <richlowe> generic_open enables it, but generic_open is not the default profile[06:21:42] <richlowe> generic_limited_net is[06:21:43] <wrapster> jmcp: ok[06:21:49] <alanc> wrapster: generic.xml is a symlink to a file that's in the onnv-gate source[06:22:00] <jmcp> hmm[06:22:19] <jmcp> looking at your pastie link, are you wondering why smb/client was enabled?[06:22:22] <alanc> the profiles are all in http://cvs.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/cmd/svc/profile/[06:22:23] <richlowe> if you're asking "Why is smb/client offline", that's because system/idmap is disabled, svcs -x would answer that.[06:23:01] *** derchris has quit IRC[06:23:06] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[06:23:36] <wrapster> jmcp: in my onnv_134 box as soon as the machine comes up, i see that smb/client is 'offline' this is undesirable.. I looked at the client.xml file in the onnv-gate source tree where it was marked as 'enabled false' this meant that the service should have been disabled (not offline.)[06:23:56] <jmcp> and you got the output from svcs -l smb/client, too[06:24:01] <wrapster> jmcp: so ever since that time im trying to figure out why this is happening.[06:24:21] <wrapster> jmcp: yes that correct[06:24:25] <jmcp> but you already know why - you got the output from svcs -l, which told you that a dependency which is required, was disabled[06:24:36] <jmcp> so the next q to ask is "why is idmap disabled?"[06:24:39] <jmcp> svcs -l idmap[06:25:16] <wrapster> richlowe: that not my question.[06:25:38] <jmcp> really? that's what you appeared to be asking[06:25:51] <wrapster> jmcp: dont go that far... these services are disabled by default.[06:26:00] <alanc> there does seem to be a bug in generic_open.xml[06:26:03] <jmcp> but instead of looking at svcs output and logfiles pointed to therefrom, you want to go straight to the source[06:26:11] <alanc> since it enables smb/client but not idmap[06:26:32] <wrapster> alanc: come again.. "bug in generic_open.xml"[06:26:55] <jmcp> alanc: iirc idmap is targeted at AD installations, not workgroups, so J Random User (ie me, richlowe, wrapster etc) probably don't need it[06:27:13] * jmcp goes back to writing his talk[06:27:14] <alanc> as I said earlier, the profile in /var/svc/profile/generic_open.xml enables smb/client[06:27:23] <wrapster> alanc: ok got it.[06:27:45] <alanc> jmcp: the bug I was referring to is that smb/client depends on idmap, but the profile only enables smb/client and not idmap[06:28:13] <taemun> forgive the pretty colours, but can anyone tell me how to mount the two missing drives correctly? http://pastie.org/930965[06:28:30] <wrapster> thanks[06:28:39] <taemun> *four missing drives :([06:28:44] <alanc> if having it not start is the desired outcome, why enable it? if having it start is desired, then it's dependencies should be enabled too I think[06:29:18] <alanc> either that or the dependency is wrong[06:30:07] *** vraa_ has quit IRC[06:32:49] *** xapiens has quit IRC[06:34:46] <Triskelios> taemun: the devices are (apparently) configured correctly, but devfsd can't figure out what the names for the /dev links should be?[06:36:04] <taemun> I guess[06:36:14] <taemun> I'm not devfsadm, so I can't really tell you what it was thinking :P[06:36:24] *** sparcdr has left #opensolaris[06:37:12] <taemun> sata0/0-3 were all hot-added at the same time[06:37:21] <taemun> along with the 6,7 on c8[06:37:29] <taemun> they didn't all mount right, so I rebooted the system[06:37:33] <taemun> and it was still the same[06:37:40] <Triskelios> taemun: the errors were caused by devfsadm -c disk?[06:38:12] *** hsp has quit IRC[06:39:06] <taemun> Triskelios: what is the full form of that comment?[06:39:08] <taemun> $ pfexec devfsadm -c sata0/0[06:39:11] <taemun> gives no response[06:39:18] <taemun> but neither does the clearly wrong $ pfexec devfsadm -c sata0/0[06:39:20] <taemun> err[06:39:23] <taemun> but neither does the clearly wrong $ pfexec devfsadm -c disk[06:39:43] <taemun> doesn't throw an error, and doesn't chuck anything in dmesg[06:39:49] <Triskelios> devfsadm -c disk is the correct invocation[06:40:18] <Triskelios> the sata0/0 name is only for cfgadm which deals with the actual devices[06:40:46] <jmcp> cfgadm -c connect c4 ; cfgadm -c configure c4[06:40:49] <jmcp> either of those might help[06:42:23] *** somebody is now known as anarchos[06:43:23] <anarchos> does anyone know if zfs supports something like storing different types of files on different disks? like if i have a pool made up of a couple ssd and a couple harddrives[06:43:40] <wrapster> alanc: ok but i just figured out that generic_open.xml is not editable.[06:43:52] <anarchos> so frequently accessed/small files are stored on the ssd, and large ones on the hdds....if that makes sense[06:43:56] *** lateau has joined #opensolaris[06:44:15] <alanc> you can edit it when you build ON[06:44:45] <alanc> after your system is installed, you use svcadm to change what's enabled or disabled[06:45:35] <Triskelios> anarchos: the ZFS L2ARC would approximate that, but the L2ARC isn't persistent yet[06:46:41] <anarchos> thanks, i was having trouble just searching for something because i couldn't put it into search engine friendly terms :P[06:47:30] *** Zhwazi has joined #opensolaris[06:51:45] *** steinberg has quit IRC[06:52:00] <anarchos> wow that's cool[06:52:11] <anarchos> not exactly what i was thinking, but would probably be better[06:52:14] <anarchos> heh[06:53:13] *** Mace_N900 has joined #opensolaris[06:55:02] *** smrt has quit IRC[06:56:28] *** Zauberpo1y has joined #opensolaris[06:58:34] *** Zauberpony has quit IRC[06:59:30] <Triskelios> anarchos: it works pretty well in practice[07:00:19] <anarchos> so whats holding it back[07:01:51] <anarchos> wonder wut would happen if you created a ram disk[07:01:54] <anarchos> and added that :P[07:02:10] <Triskelios> the ARC is already in RAM[07:02:20] <Triskelios> this is just another layer for it[07:02:39] <Triskelios> since SSDs are cheaper than RAM[07:02:39] <anarchos> ah[07:03:19] <anarchos> yeah i guess that doesnt make much sense to add a layer of ram between ram and the disk[07:03:22] <anarchos> :P[07:07:54] *** wvan has joined #opensolaris[07:08:22] <wvan> exit[07:08:29] *** wvan has quit IRC[07:12:15] *** arcticfox has joined #opensolaris[07:15:58] *** davenz has left #opensolaris[07:19:01] <trochej> coffee[07:19:34] <taemun> jmcp: configure did nothing, but:[07:19:35] <taemun> $ pfexec cfgadm -c connect c4[07:19:35] <taemun> cfgadm: Hardware specific failure: SCSI bus not disconnected[07:19:44] *** chilicuil has quit IRC[07:20:33] <jmcp> is that the one with your boot device on it?[07:20:48] <taemun> nope, that box is booting from usb7/3[07:20:52] <jmcp> 'k[07:21:12] <jmcp> so try cfgadm -c disconnect c4 ; cfgadm -c configure c4[07:21:18] <jmcp> or connect, sorry[07:21:20] <wrapster> alanc: i made changes and rebuilt it.. yet i see the same issue[07:21:34] <taemun> should I pull the pool thats attached to that first?[07:21:41] <taemun> (I'm guessing thats a stupid question :P)[07:21:48] <wrapster> alanc: but when i go into generic_open.xml file and see i can find that its set to false[07:21:57] <wrapster> alanc: any ideas on what more can be done?[07:21:57] <jmcp> taemun: zpool export the pool. you mean?[07:22:02] <taemun> yes ^[07:22:03] <taemun> sorry[07:22:42] <jmcp> 'k[07:22:45] <jmcp> yeah, do that[07:23:03] <taemun> did, and disconnect threw WARNING: Disconnecting critical partitions may cause system hang. Continue (yes/no)?[07:23:06] <taemun> hit yes[07:23:18] <taemun> and cfgadm -al appears to have hung[07:23:33] <taemun> but I can still make a new ssh session[07:23:56] <jmcp> so what filesystems were mounted there?[07:24:22] <taemun> there can't be any[07:24:29] <taemun> rpool is entirely on that usb stick[07:24:39] <taemun> and these drives didn't exist at installation time[07:24:47] <jmcp> ok[07:25:07] <jmcp> what's in /var/adm/messages after you cfgadm disconnect(ed) ?[07:25:34] <taemun> Apr 23 15:28:05 mirror genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] /pci@0,0/pci1022,9603@2/pci1028,1f10@0 (mpt0) quiesced[07:25:54] <jmcp> 'k[07:26:00] <wrapster> alanc: you there?[07:26:05] <jmcp> tried the -c connect yet?[07:26:17] <taemun> nope, was trying to get a cfgadm -al first[07:26:18] <taemun> sec[07:26:47] <taemun> appears to hang[07:27:10] <jmcp> what's in /var/adm/messages?[07:27:21] <jmcp> and is your "hang" test running cfgadm -la ?[07:27:44] <taemun> cfgadm -al ... cfgadm ... pfexec cfgadm -c connect c4[07:27:46] <taemun> all "hang"[07:27:52] <jmcp> gah[07:27:59] <jmcp> can you kill the first cfgadm -la ?[07:28:02] <jmcp> kill -9 as root[07:28:08] <taemun> last 24 hours in dmesg all boil down to[07:28:08] <taemun> Apr 23 15:28:05 mirror genunix: [ID 408114 kern.info] /pci@0,0/pci1022,9603@2/pci1028,1f10@0 (mpt0) quiesced[07:28:08] <taemun> Apr 23 15:28:05 mirror pcplusmp: [ID 805372 kern.info] pcplusmp: ide (ata) instance 0 irq 0xe vector 0x43 ioapic 0x2 intin 0xe is bound to cpu 3[07:28:13] <taemun> that last one is in there four times[07:28:16] <taemun> at various times[07:28:23] <taemun> (thats c8 I think)[07:28:36] *** WebDawg has joined #opensolaris[07:28:39] <WebDawg> wow[07:29:01] <taemun> jmp: pfexec kill -9 4990 doesn't error, but the process is still sitting there smirking at me[07:29:16] <taemun> * jmcp, apologies :P[07:29:34] <WebDawg> I have a Via VT6421 card that I want to work in opensolaris and I have no idea where to start. People are talking about AHCI mode and things like that...can anyone help?[07:30:47] <WebDawg> It does not seem like its compatible but some are saying that their is a way to make it work.[07:30:52] <taemun> jmcp: http://pastie.org/931025 :([07:31:10] <WebDawg> http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Community+Group+device_drivers/AHCI[07:31:15] <WebDawg> That project maby.[07:31:17] <wrapster> jmcp: alanc seems to be away .. could you please help.[07:31:18] <jmcp> taemun: find the oldest one and kill it[07:31:23] <taemun> 4990 is[07:31:40] <jmcp> wrapster: no, I'm sorry, I can't. I do not understand what problem you are trying to solve. Also, it's still my working day and actually have work to do[07:33:19] <odyi> taemun: I haven't read that fall back but you say you have tried to kill a process and it won't die?[07:33:32] <taemun> odyi: yeah, as per my last pastie link[07:33:47] <WebDawg> Can someone help?[07:34:02] <freetown2> WebDawg, what problem did you encounter?[07:34:05] *** Aria has left #opensolaris[07:34:53] <freetown2> oh, ick[07:34:55] <WebDawg> freetown2, it seems that it will not detect the disk.[07:35:17] <freetown2> do you have raid devices setup on that thing?[07:35:29] <WebDawg> No. Right now I have one disk in SATA mode.[07:36:17] <WebDawg> I have little experience with this as I usually use linux. fdisk only detects the main drive. When i tried using the controller and a disk to install it did not detect the drive.[07:36:25] <freetown2> you're better off with a silicon image 3124 card...[07:36:40] <odyi> taemun: that useally means un-interruptable sleep. Which is often caused by iowait. I bet if you run a 'ps -Alf | grep cfgadm' you will probably find something other then a S or R in the second column.[07:36:47] <WebDawg> Is ahci just a bios/disk mode freetown2 ?[07:36:48] <freetown2> sata mode is all it's got?[07:37:03] <WebDawg> freetown2, it seems so.[07:37:14] <taemun> odyi: S, yep[07:37:17] <taemun> (and Alf, lol)[07:38:11] <Andys^> yaaaaaaaaaaaaay, supermicro finally released SAS2.0 chassis with expanders[07:38:22] <freetown2> well, it might be a pata/sata thing...a sil3124 should sort you out.[07:38:45] *** stevel has quit IRC[07:39:08] <freetown2> Andys^, them 847 that hold 45 disks?[07:39:17] <Andys^> no[07:39:27] <Andys^> i'm looking at the 2RU 216E26 that holds 24 x 2.5"[07:39:32] <jmcp> taemun: if you have physical access to the machine you could try yanking the cable for those disks[07:39:41] <jmcp> assuming this isn't a box you're running in production etc etc[07:39:50] <taemun> jmcp: unfortunately its a kilometer *that* way[07:39:58] <jmcp> oh[07:40:00] <jmcp> :([07:40:02] <WebDawg> freetown2, ahci is that just a setting then?[07:40:05] <odyi> An S hu...that means it is just sleeping. That should be killable.[07:40:42] <taemun> it isn't production or anything[07:40:42] <taemun> I'd get someone to poke it but he's afk for the next 80 minutes[07:40:42] <taemun> so I guess I'll have a look then[07:40:42] <taemun> thanks for all your help, jmcp and odyi[07:40:42] <taemun> format said "Searching for disks..." then "hung" the same[07:40:42] <WebDawg> On the card?[07:40:51] <taemun> has an "S" in the second column[07:41:04] <freetown2> WebDawg, a mode setting...like true sata[07:41:22] <richlowe> where are they stuck?[07:41:24] <richlowe> (pstack?)[07:41:45] <taemun> odyi: its bad when I can type "pfexec kill -9 5113" and enter, and then hit up and enter repeatedly and not get a "No such process" error :P[07:41:59] <richlowe> or mdb -k, and ::pgrep <something> | ::walk thread | ::findstack, for the kernel-side stack[07:42:04] <richlowe> maybe give you useful terms to search b.o.o for.[07:42:18] <taemun> $ pstack 4990[07:42:18] <taemun> pstack: cannot examine 4990: unanticipated system error[07:42:27] <jmcp> taemun: try it as root[07:42:35] <taemun> jmcp: same response[07:42:45] <jmcp> also, try (as root) echo "0t4990::pid2proc|::print proc_t p_tlist|::findstack -v"|mdb -k[07:42:49] <jmcp> that'll give you the kernel stack[07:43:17] <taemun> http://pastie.org/931034[07:43:39] <taemun> thats the output from jmcp's mdb line[07:43:47] <freetown2> WebDawg, that card don't support AHCI...it needs its own driver...not sure if osol has a generic pci-ide driver that will work with your via card[07:44:00] <WebDawg> How do i find out?[07:44:11] *** smrt has joined #opensolaris[07:44:19] <WebDawg> Iv been googling for like an hour, heh.[07:44:28] <taemun> smrt: wb[07:44:33] <taemun> aw :([07:44:40] <smrt> moo.[07:46:08] <dover> WebDawg: sil3124/3132 cards arn't ahci[07:46:15] *** Odin- has quit IRC[07:46:26] <freetown2> dover, he does not have a sil3124 card[07:46:36] <freetown2> he has a via 'raid' card[07:46:51] <jmcp> taemun: how about similar mdb line with s/4990/5037/ ?[07:47:17] <dover> ah - wasn't sure of the question. i've been having a lot of ahci 'fun' lately if there are questions[07:47:31] <taemun> jmcp: http://pastie.org/931036[07:48:03] <freetown2> WebDawg, you could ask Via to write a driver for Solaris...they do have solaris drivers for their ethernet cards[07:48:09] <taemun> jmcp: and for the format process: http://pastie.org/931038[07:48:16] <freetown2> or get yourself a sil3124 card[07:48:40] <jmcp> taemun: so we need to kill off your cfgadm -al somehow[07:49:01] <jmcp> you could _try_ a reboot -q, but no guarantee it'll work[07:49:06] <Andys^> SAS 2.0 is supposed to have extra commands to let you 'lock' access to the expander so only one host is accessing it at once[07:49:07] <taemun> jmcp: can I hard detach the HBA's driver or something?[07:49:19] <jmcp> Andys^: indeed it does - they're the affiliation bits[07:49:30] <taemun> (in the hope that it will error back to cfgadm)[07:49:33] <jmcp> taemun: no, because there's a thread with structures open[07:49:45] <taemun> :([07:50:14] <Andys^> jmcp: I'm hoping this will let me build a ghetto dual-headed NAS[07:50:19] <jmcp> heh[07:50:25] <Andys^> by reducing the complexity needed to ensure host exclusive access[07:50:43] <Andys^> though interesting to note the 7000 series only falls back on this method if all other communications between the hosts is down[07:51:08] <taemun> jmcp: just sent a reboot -q, I guess we'll see what happens :)[07:51:17] <jmcp> taemun: that's probably your best option[07:51:18] <taemun> unfortunately, no remote management on this particular box :S[07:52:02] <taemun> either the reboot is taking its time or it just ignored me[07:52:10] <taemun> err[07:52:11] <Andys^> jmcp: i dont think this is the affiliation bits i'm talking about[07:52:13] <taemun> I can still ssh in lol[07:52:27] <taemun> I'll wait for the remote hands[07:52:29] <Andys^> my understanding is: affiliation bits are what the expander uses to map a given initiator to a given SATA target[07:52:41] <Andys^> i'm talking about SAS targets only, which are dual-ported and don't need affiliation[07:53:04] <Andys^> i remember reading in some Sun docs that SAS 2.0 supports a command that lets an initiator acquire a lock on the expander with a timeout[07:53:18] <Andys^> and so the host keeps acquiring it over and over[07:53:36] <Andys^> if it stops, then the slave which has been trying to acquire it can suddenly acquire it, and import the zpool and start serving files[07:53:48] <taemun> jmcp: is there a *hard* reboot button somewhere? the equivalent of pushing the reset button?[07:54:39] <Andys^> "SAS-2 Zone Lock"[07:55:10] <Andys^> here's the doc: http://blogs.sun.com/wesolows/entry/7000_series_takeover_and_failback[08:04:33] <Mace_N900> hi[08:08:57] *** Mace_N900 has quit IRC[08:18:42] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[08:19:00] <WebDawg> Yeh. I am at the driver detector now freetown2 and it says driver missing :/[08:19:05] <WebDawg> I will ask freetown2 .[08:19:10] <WebDawg> dover what do you mean?[08:20:16] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[08:20:32] <madwizard> Coffee[08:20:40] <dover> i've been playing around getting hardware that supports ahci and port multipliers to work with opensolaris. if you have questions along those lines feel free to ask[08:21:37] <dover> madwizard: your coffee timeing is very precise[08:22:20] <madwizard> dover: Coincidence[08:22:28] <madwizard> :)[08:22:49] <madwizard> I time myself by time of coffeine dissolve[08:22:56] <freetown2> answer = sil3124 + sil pmp chips[08:23:05] <freetown2> oh wait...[08:23:09] <freetown2> pmp?[08:23:19] <madwizard> pimp?[08:23:21] <freetown2> that's marvell only i think at the moment?[08:23:31] <freetown2> no support for sil pmp chips yet right?[08:23:32] <WebDawg> sil3124[08:24:05] <freetown2> port multipliers/port multiplexers/whatever[08:24:14] <WebDawg> freetown2, thats the card I need right?[08:24:19] <WebDawg> It will work.[08:24:23] <freetown2> oh yes[08:24:33] *** hajma_ has joined #opensolaris[08:24:42] *** Beket has joined #opensolaris[08:24:46] <freetown2> if you want eight port, you need a marvell card[08:25:01] *** hajma has quit IRC[08:25:28] <WebDawg> marvell?[08:25:34] <WebDawg> Eight port would be nice....[08:25:39] <WebDawg> Thats what I need.[08:25:46] <freetown2> you got PCI-X?[08:25:59] <WebDawg> Nah. Not atm freetown2 but what chipset do i need?[08:25:59] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[08:28:20] <taemun> sas card?[08:28:25] <WebDawg> pci.[08:28:31] <freetown2> http://www.supermicro.com/products/accessories/addon/AoC-SAT2-MV8.cfm[08:28:36] <taemun> ew[08:28:58] <joshua_> hmm[08:29:01] <dover> freetown2: the sil3124/3124 don't support pmp (or pimps) in opensolaris yet[08:29:02] <freetown2> that bad boy should work...with a few adjustments..unless you have a supermicro aoc board :P[08:29:02] <taemun> seriously, who has pci-x on modern hardware[08:29:05] <joshua_> so, how much ARC is recommended for dedup?[08:29:08] <WebDawg> whats pimps?[08:29:09] <joshua_> is there a good way to estimate that?[08:29:20] <taemun> joshua_: x^x bytes[08:29:20] <WebDawg> I think this dell server has pci-x.[08:29:26] <WebDawg> I think my network card is pci-x[08:29:27] <freetown2> whoops[08:29:32] <joshua_> taemun, -.-[08:29:44] <freetown2> that card is PCI-X...should work...[08:29:44] <taemun> maybe x||x bytes if you want to be sure :P[08:29:54] *** phimic has joined #opensolaris[08:29:59] <WebDawg> I should plan to build a nice nas.[08:30:02] <joshua_> we'd like to get an SSD pci-e card to throw in our machine so we can have enough l2arc to run with dedup reasonably[08:30:24] <WebDawg> They gonna open up ZFS freetown2 ?[08:30:30] <dover> ahci cards can support port multipliers - i'm still experimenting with ich10r motherboards and jmb363 cards[08:30:53] <taemun> joshua_: just note that then you need ram to hold the pointers for the l2arc[08:31:13] <freetown2> WebDawg, ???[08:31:37] <taemun> freetown2: I believe he was asking if that card will work under osol[08:31:40] <freetown2> I am no Oracle employee but given what they did with the ODF plugin for MS Office...[08:31:46] <WebDawg> The license on freetown2?[08:32:00] *** merzo has joined #opensolaris[08:32:04] <freetown2> i do not have to be licensed thank you very much[08:32:17] <freetown2> nor can you license me[08:32:20] <dover> even marvell cards don't have opensolaris port multiplier support http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/816-5177/marvell88sx-7d?a=view[08:32:21] <joshua_> taemun, yeah, I just read about that[08:32:25] <joshua_> taemun, we have 8GB of RAM[08:33:01] <freetown2> dover, so it is still pmp framework added but no actual chips?[08:33:06] <WebDawg> Why does it say that the repository is unavailable when I click install all drivers...[08:33:23] *** Dagobert_ has joined #opensolaris[08:33:23] <joshua_> so a 32GB SSD for l2arc would eat 800MB of RAM[08:33:32] <joshua_> that is quite a bit, hmm[08:33:35] <taemun> joshua_: wouldn't that depend upon block size?[08:33:43] <dover> freetown2: ahci chips are supported - best ref for chips there is https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/SATA_hardware_features[08:33:44] <joshua_> er, with 8KB blocks, yeah[08:33:52] <taemun> if you're storing 128kb data blocks, there will be less pointers than for 200 byte ddt entries[08:34:01] <taemun> although I don't know specifically how metadata is stored in l2arc[08:34:04] <freetown2> dover, with any pmp chip out there?[08:34:05] <WebDawg> So if I had a AHCI card solaris would detect it automatically right?[08:34:24] <freetown2> WebDawg, good luck getting one[08:34:36] <freetown2> afaik, they are all onboard[08:35:02] <joshua_> I think I have one here...[08:35:17] <dover> freetown2: haven't got that far - hopeing i've got the sil3726c chips for pmps. hoping its fairly a fairly standard interface between controller and pmp[08:35:49] <dover> WebDawg: i've had pretty good luck with autodetection of ahci cards - provided the bios is set right[08:36:21] <WebDawg> Thanks dover .[08:36:26] <WebDawg> VIA VT642x sata_via no no no no n/a no[08:36:32] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[08:36:33] *** Dagobert_ is now known as Dagobert[08:36:38] <WebDawg> No AHCI :([08:37:01] <freetown2> dover, you're driving me nuts. your pmp test got anyway?[08:37:04] *** Yu\2 has joined #opensolaris[08:37:08] *** bitblt_ has quit IRC[08:37:08] *** bitblt has quit IRC[08:37:14] <freetown2> anywhere[08:37:20] <WebDawg> This may just be a ignorant statement but why cant they just compile the sata_via driver from linux?[08:37:25] <dover> sorry for driving you nuts[08:37:35] *** rservers has quit IRC[08:37:53] *** lesterc has joined #opensolaris[08:38:37] *** zalez has joined #opensolaris[08:38:59] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[08:39:51] <WebDawg> Whats pmp?[08:40:39] <freetown2> port multipliers/port multiplexers/whatever[08:40:40] *** zalez_ has joined #opensolaris[08:40:41] <timeless_mbp> does bill rushmore use irc?[08:40:42] *** zalez_ has left #opensolaris[08:41:17] <freetown2> dover, i'll be frothing at the mouth if you do not tell me when you succeed[08:41:28] <richlowe> timeless_mbp: rarely if ever.[08:41:52] *** rservers has joined #opensolaris[08:42:48] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #opensolaris[08:43:01] <dover> sorting out some boot troubles - 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Poossibly bpf based apps can't do it yet, though.[09:49:49] <lblume> msbhvn: Use snoop to look att it, thhen open the file in wireshark[09:51:55] <richlowe> tshark seems fine on lo0, too[09:53:28] *** dover has quit IRC[09:58:23] *** Vanuatoo has quit IRC[10:00:54] *** freetown2 has quit IRC[10:04:26] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[10:05:01] *** z0mbix has joined #opensolaris[10:07:28] <FastJack> hmm, 4 days near the baltic sea next week. too bad I have to work there :-/[10:08:27] *** hnhn has joined #opensolaris[10:10:02] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[10:12:12] *** chendy_ has joined #opensolaris[10:13:44] *** jinx099 has left #opensolaris[10:15:06] *** chendy has quit IRC[10:15:08] *** chendy_ is now known as chendy[10:16:56] *** achester has joined #opensolaris[10:17:11] *** Fallen_Demon has joined #opensolaris[10:17:42] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[10:18:03] *** phil_ has joined #opensolaris[10:18:30] *** twisti has quit IRC[10:18:45] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[10:24:06] <madwizard> Coffee[10:24:45] * RoyK += 0xc0ffee[10:32:25] *** Vanuatoo has joined #opensolaris[10:34:41] *** merzo has quit IRC[10:35:35] *** merzo has joined #opensolaris[10:37:12] *** Erwann has joined #opensolaris[10:40:16] * FastJack does it REST style: GET /coffee[10:40:19] *** betchou has joined #opensolaris[10:42:50] <madwizard> :)[10:43:02] *** merzo has quit IRC[10:43:11] *** xtrondo has joined #opensolaris[10:43:33] *** merzo has joined #opensolaris[10:46:13] <madwizard> I like REST.[10:46:20] <madwizard> I do it as often as I can. :)[10:49:29] <FastJack> speaking of it. I wanted to play with rails 3 today[10:50:11] <madwizard> Do you have a train with that?[10:50:42] <FastJack> sapphire on skids :)[10:51:10] <FastJack> you don't need a train :)[10:54:58] <CIA-21> Vladimir Kotal <Vladimir.Kotal at Sun dot COM>: 6755097 C_GetMechanismInfo() via pkcs11_kernel doesn't obey kernel provider policy[10:55:31] *** timsf has joined #opensolaris[11:09:32] *** nikolam has quit IRC[11:11:33] *** tsoome has quit IRC[11:13:32] *** nikolam has joined #opensolaris[11:15:57] *** ArcAngel has left #opensolaris[11:16:11] *** mroconnor has joined #opensolaris[11:16:35] *** kwinz3 has quit IRC[11:22:42] *** wdp_aao has joined #opensolaris[11:24:44] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[11:25:40] <CodeWar> any news on 2010.03 and if the pending issues are nearing resolution[11:27:54] <madwizard> CodeWar: Yes, the news is: wait.[11:27:56] *** Mousk4r1 has joined #opensolaris[11:27:57] <madwizard> Coffee[11:28:34] <CodeWar> madwizard, course I know waht the friggin answer is ... asking this question irks some folks and that gives me some sadistic pleasure[11:29:22] <Beket> 2010.03 will not ever happen[11:29:57] <mui> why not?[11:29:59] *** jas88 has joined #opensolaris[11:30:06] *** Mousk4r has quit IRC[11:30:16] <mui> one of two main issues were fixed already[11:30:20] <mui> i bet dedup bug is still there[11:30:24] <CosmicDJ> because it's already 2010.04 haha[11:30:28] <Beket> exactly[11:30:35] <mui> :P[11:30:36] <CodeWar> whats date gotta do with release eh?[11:30:37] <Beket> next stop is 2010.06 :D[11:31:00] <CosmicDJ> they said 1st half CY2010, so I bet it's 2010.07 ;)[11:31:06] <Tonnerre> We could release 2009.11[11:31:19] <Beket> the dedup bug must be really bad, I sense[11:31:29] <Beket> bad as in involving serious work to fix it[11:32:00] *** dalibor has quit IRC[11:32:15] <CodeWar> noticed some guy got beat up on osol.discuss for mentioning about openoffice filter price ... while that was dumb on his part it reminds me of a garage sale[11:33:06] <CodeWar> sparc/solaris/java big tickets .. everything else lets sell for whatever goes.. 10 bucks 20 bucks ... 90 bucks[11:33:25] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[11:35:46] *** jas88 has quit IRC[11:35:52] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[11:35:56] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[11:38:09] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[11:40:27] *** tosh has joined #opensolaris[11:43:20] *** _madmax_ has joined #opensolaris[11:44:53] <madwizard> To all that check their clocks against me: the 12:20 coffee will not happen, I repeat: the 12:20 coffee will not happen.[11:44:57] <madwizard> Make your own.[11:45:10] <madwizard> Next scheduled time sync: 13:20[11:45:33] <madwizard> Thank you for your cooperation and we're sorry for inconveniences[11:46:01] <mui> i has coffee[11:46:06] <mui> and its 1250 already![11:47:42] <CosmicDJ> 9:52 zulu time...[11:48:07] *** kmays has joined #opensolaris[11:55:07] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[11:55:18] <madwizard> mui: I was reffering to my local time, sorry[11:55:28] <mui> 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Mace_N900 has quit IRC[14:19:28] *** mroconnor has quit IRC[14:20:51] *** Erwann has quit IRC[14:33:35] <plavcik> I'm trying pfexec pkg install SUNWpostgr ,but getting pkg://opensolaris.org/SUNWpostgr at 8 dot 1.11,5.11-0.111:20090508T162853Z: This version is excluded by installed incorporation pkg://opensolaris.org/consolidation/sfw/sfw-incorporation at 0 dot 5.11,5.11-0.134:20100302T010637Z[14:34:08] <plavcik> for what is sfw-incorporation used?[14:34:53] *** xapiens has joined #opensolaris[14:34:58] *** calLNCH has quit IRC[14:35:05] <plavcik> how I can install PostgreSQL?[14:36:08] *** achester has quit IRC[14:38:11] *** ma3x_ has joined #opensolaris[14:38:56] <tsoome> man pkg[14:39:40] *** wdp_aao has quit IRC[14:39:58] <plavcik> tsoome: well, I have some "dependency issue"[14:40:10] <plavcik> I'm trying pfexec pkg install SUNWpostgr ,but getting pkg://opensolaris.org/SUNWpostgr at 8 dot 1.11,5.11-0.111:20090508T162853Z: This version is excluded by installed incorporation pkg://opensolaris.org/consolidation/sfw/sfw-incorporation at 0 dot 5.11,5.11-0.134:20100302T010637Z[14:42:00] *** ma3x__ has quit IRC[14:43:35] *** kmays has left #opensolaris[14:44:50] *** mroconnor has joined #opensolaris[14:46:02] *** kwinz3 has quit IRC[14:50:06] <hnhn> plavcik: what's your build number?[14:53:49] <plavcik> snv_134[14:55:31] <hnhn> there has been renames in the repository since 133[14:55:32] *** fuku has quit IRC[14:56:00] <seanmcg> plavcik, whats your pkg publisher ?[14:56:12] <seanmcg> i.e. the output from pkg publisher[14:57:00] <plavcik> http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/ https://pkg.sun.com/opensolaris/extra/ http://pkg.opensolaris.org/webstack/[14:57:05] <hnhn> generally you can do 'pkg info -r <pkg>' to see what's the new name[14:57:42] <hnhn> hm, and you're really on snv_134?[14:57:56] <hnhn> you should probably change your publisher to pkg.opensolaris.org/dev[14:58:04] <seanmcg> plavcik, what hnhn said[14:58:08] <seanmcg> smrt explain dev[14:58:14] <seanmcg> smrt: explain dev[14:58:14] <smrt> see "dev repository"[14:58:21] <seanmcg> smrt: explain dev repository[14:58:21] <smrt> To switch to the /dev repository (OpenSolaris development releases, see the IPS version in /topic): pfexec pkg set-publisher -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev opensolaris.org && pfexec pkg install SUNWipkg && pfexec pkg image-update -v # Then wait. You *must* read the release notes before starting out or you *will* be unhappy. See also: ips mirrors[14:58:33] <seanmcg> plavcik, what smrt said[14:58:54] <plavcik> oops, thx guys, I forget to switch to release for expected 2010.03[14:59:16] <hnhn> after that, the new name for postgres is database/postgres-83 (http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/en/search.shtml?token=postgres&action=Search)[14:59:16] <plavcik> oops, thx guys, I forget, that I already switched to release for expected 2010.03[14:59:48] *** eleusis has quit IRC[15:00:16] *** pablomh has quit IRC[15:00:28] *** effnorwood has joined #opensolaris[15:00:45] *** eleusis has joined #opensolaris[15:00:45] *** eleusis has joined #opensolaris[15:00:52] <effnorwood> coffee[15:01:48] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[15:05:03] *** afrasi has joined #opensolaris[15:05:17] <Okona> espresso[15:10:08] <madwizard> I know, I'm late[15:10:10] <madwizard> Coffe[15:10:11] <madwizard> e[15:10:36] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #opensolaris[15:10:41] *** bklang has joined #opensolaris[15:14:52] *** kwinz3 has joined #opensolaris[15:17:27] *** PhlowX has joined #opensolaris[15:17:52] *** Rach has joined #opensolaris[15:18:31] <Rach> Hi all, I'm having problems with the root password on svn-134.[15:18:39] <Rach> Anyone care to tell me what it is ?[15:19:39] <tsoome> mmm opensolaris ?[15:19:49] <Rach> I just tried that, no go.[15:19:57] <tsoome> how did you try it?[15:20:16] <Rach> I've tried do su in the terminal[15:20:17] <tsoome> there is no root *user* in opensolaris.[15:20:36] <tsoome> does tha user have root listed in roles command output?[15:20:42] <tsoome> that*[15:21:03] *** sergiusens has quit IRC[15:21:15] <Rach> From this command ?[15:21:15] <Rach> cat /etc/user_attr[15:21:23] <tsoome> roles command[15:21:55] <tsoome> as from: tsoome@kass:~$ roles[15:21:55] <tsoome> root[15:22:00] <Rach> running "roles" in the terminal gives "root"[15:22:07] <Rach> I got the same.[15:22:15] <tsoome> well, so you have that role access[15:22:25] <Rach> But vm-tools won't install.[15:22:34] <tsoome> ?[15:23:32] <tsoome> if you are missing your root password, do 'pfexec passwd root'[15:24:03] <tsoome> to install packages, do 'pfexec pkg install .....'[15:24:20] *** cybernd has joined #opensolaris[15:25:04] <Rach> Thanks[15:25:08] <Rach> That worked[15:27:30] *** baza11215 has joined #opensolaris[15:28:07] *** calumb has joined #opensolaris[15:28:36] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[15:30:01] *** cmbntr has joined #opensolaris[15:31:22] *** cmbntr has quit IRC[15:32:01] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[15:32:04] *** myosound has quit IRC[15:32:40] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[15:36:06] *** psychicist has joined #opensolaris[15:36:29] *** jthunder_ has joined #opensolaris[15:36:51] *** fuku has joined #opensolaris[15:37:56] *** Mace_N900 has joined #opensolaris[15:38:10] *** omry has quit IRC[15:38:22] *** fuku has left #opensolaris[15:40:51] *** omry has joined #opensolaris[15:42:57] *** stewart has quit IRC[15:44:08] *** solar_sea has left #opensolaris[15:46:02] *** leito has joined #opensolaris[15:47:52] *** randw has quit IRC[15:47:56] *** randw has joined #opensolaris[15:50:41] *** steinberg has joined #opensolaris[15:50:58] *** steinberg has quit IRC[15:52:55] <effnorwood> you can also do a sudo passwd root which is the wrong yet lazy way to do it[15:54:10] *** dalibor_ has joined #opensolaris[15:54:52] <CIA-21> gowtham thommandra - Sun Microsystems - Bangalore India <Gowtham.Thommandra at Sun dot COM>: 6889519 smf methods deadlock even when dependencies shouldn't need to be followed[15:54:53] <CIA-21> James Hall <James.Hall at Sun dot COM>: 6934287 check_resync_regions create huge number of entries in the callback table[15:55:42] *** astra-x has joined #opensolaris[15:57:00] *** dalibor has quit IRC[15:57:00] *** dalibor_ is now known as dalibor[15:57:09] *** cybernd has quit IRC[15:57:52] *** synegy34 has joined #opensolaris[15:59:37] *** e1kg has joined #opensolaris[15:59:49] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[16:00:48] *** logic855 has left #opensolaris[16:02:39] *** Mdx4 has joined #opensolaris[16:04:01] <Rach> Any hits on getting glib >= 2.6.0 installed. 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Specifically what devices are using what IRQs.[17:08:49] <ElllisD> I have a fresh install of 2009.06 that hangs at the progress bar prior to reaching the logon screen. Is there a boot option I need, or another way to log in?[17:09:16] *** Fallen_Demon has quit IRC[17:12:30] *** piwi has quit IRC[17:12:32] *** xapiens has quit IRC[17:12:36] *** timeless_mbp has quit IRC[17:12:36] <Stric> ElllisD: might be some issues with hardware support for your machine.. 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Wasn't aware of that. It's like Christmas, woo-hoo![17:44:47] *** merzo has quit IRC[17:44:49] <tsoome> :D[17:47:14] *** Mdx4 has joined #opensolaris[17:47:17] <Stric> alanc: close.. but no banana..[17:48:01] <alanc> looked like they copied a Linux document and changed the trademark owner but the trademark name ended up on the previous line instead[17:50:16] *** calum_ has joined #opensolaris[17:50:36] *** calumb has quit IRC[17:53:15] *** timeless_mbp has joined #opensolaris[17:53:15] *** timeless_mbp has joined #opensolaris[17:54:09] *** echobinary has joined #opensolaris[17:55:27] *** hnhn has quit IRC[17:59:15] *** milek has quit IRC[17:59:16] *** achester has joined #opensolaris[17:59:55] *** cybernd has joined #opensolaris[18:00:57] *** Animal-X has joined #opensolaris[18:01:15] *** b13n1u_ has joined #opensolaris[18:01:50] <sstallion_work> hrm[18:02:11] <sstallion_work> I seem to have been able to silence Dennis for once.[18:02:22] *** sstallion_work is now known as stallion_work[18:02:45] <echobinary> this is curious - iv enever tried before today - but it seems that when I use mount -F smbfs -o username=[myusername] //blah/blah /blah/blah I get "mount: unknown option username" - how do I sent login credentials?[18:02:54] <echobinary> man mount was not helpful[18:03:10] *** thistle__ has joined #opensolaris[18:03:15] <asyd> man mount_smbfs maybe?[18:04:03] <stallion_work> echobinary: use: mount -F smbfs //user@blah/blah /mnt[18:04:47] <stallion_work> (not that I'm an smbfs user; the man page was quite helpful...)[18:06:09] <echobinary> LMAO[18:06:18] <echobinary> my password has an @ symbol in it[18:06:25] <echobinary> oh mn - this will be great...[18:07:31] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[18:07:33] <Gugge> echobinary: escape the @ then ....[18:07:49] <lattera> or better yet, don't even enter it in the command-line[18:07:50] <echobinary> \@ ? just tried it[18:07:55] <lattera> let mount prompt you for it[18:07:56] <echobinary> yeah I tried that too[18:09:14] <Gugge> but why does @ in password matter, when you use //user@server/share ?[18:10:08] *** santoroj has joined #opensolaris[18:10:21] *** wrapster has joined #opensolaris[18:10:47] <echobinary> if you do that - it wouldn't - however if you do //user:p@ssword@server/share .. well[18:10:48] <wrapster> guys im back with the smb/client issue.. could you please spare sometime in helping me resolve it.[18:11:26] <echobinary> I guess //user:p\@ssword@server/share would be the answer to that.. but im still having issues so im coing to check it out some more[18:11:58] <gebi> echobinary: for special chars manpages recommends to use PASSWD env or credentials file here[18:12:08] <wrapster> i've hacked the /var/svc/manifest/generic_open.xml file . looked at the client.xml file[18:12:12] <wrapster> nothing was fruitful[18:12:13] <Gugge> echobinary what about //user:"p@ssword"@server/share ?[18:12:25] <asyd> wrapster: have you reloaded it?[18:12:29] <echobinary> YES! I got it - the issue was that the smb server I was trying to connect to has encrypt passwords = no[18:12:32] <wrapster> asyd: as in?[18:12:38] <echobinary> I changes it to "yes" and all is well[18:12:47] <wrapster> asyd: do you know the context of my problem.. i dont mind explaing it once again.[18:13:01] <asyd> no :)[18:13:14] <asyd> but editing files diretly in /var/svc/manifest is not a good thing[18:13:18] *** calum_ has quit IRC[18:14:06] <wrapster> asyd: here is the complete picture.[18:16:08] <wrapster> i recently built and installed onnv_134 on my machine and when it came up i was able to see that smb/client was 'offline'[18:16:09] <wrapster> http://pastie.org/930958[18:16:36] <wrapster> asyd: this is undesirable especially when native osol which i downloaded from genunix didnt have this problem[18:16:43] *** myosoun_ has joined #opensolaris[18:16:49] <wrapster> now im trying to figure out from where its coming and how to solve it.[18:17:22] <wrapster> you see from the pastie that enabled is set to 'true' I want it to be set to 'false' by default.[18:18:12] <asyd> svccfg?[18:18:41] <wrapster> this is not the case in the ISO i downloaded from genunix.[18:18:45] <wrapster> thats my worry.[18:18:56] <wrapster> asyd: svccfg? could you please elaborate.[18:19:27] *** Stellar|2 has joined #opensolaris[18:19:29] <wrapster> i dont want to change anything post installation. I want it to be disabled during the onnv build only so that when i bring the new kernel up i should see it disabled.[18:19:31] <asyd> what are you trying to do exactly? disable smbclient for a single host?[18:19:37] <wrapster> yes[18:19:45] <asyd> svcadm disable smb/client?[18:20:04] *** myosound has quit IRC[18:20:12] <wrapster> asyd: no.. not that way. like i said it should not be a post installation issue.[18:20:22] <wrapster> i want it to be so by default...[18:20:32] <wrapster> the way it is in the ISO i dwd from genunix[18:21:01] *** Stellar has quit IRC[18:22:54] *** hunter has quit IRC[18:23:04] *** derchris has quit IRC[18:23:10] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[18:23:49] <wrapster> asyd: any ideas pls[18:23:50] <WebDawg> meow[18:25:25] <lattera> create your own installation cd/dvd?[18:26:08] <trochej> wrapster you want it to be disabled? If you svcadm disable it, it should stay that way[18:26:32] <trochej> If you built, look in sources for manifests[18:26:34] <WebDawg> nice[18:26:50] <trochej> Coffee[18:27:36] *** Mace_N900 has quit IRC[18:27:40] *** Mousk4r has joined #opensolaris[18:28:25] *** gjl has quit IRC[18:28:34] *** gjl has joined #opensolaris[18:28:42] *** fOB has joined #opensolaris[18:29:55] *** santoroj has quit IRC[18:31:27] *** myosoun_ has quit IRC[18:31:41] <wrapster> trochej: yes i've built it. and i looked at the manifest sources as well.[18:32:41] <wrapster> trochej: i made changes there only.. in a file called usr/src/cmd/svc/profile/generic_open.xml[18:32:49] *** santoroj has joined #opensolaris[18:33:00] <wrapster> i built onnv after these changes again. yet i see the same probelm.[18:34:12] *** fleyta has joined #opensolaris[18:34:27] <fleyta> jmcp: Are you available?[18:34:39] *** nikolam has joined #opensolaris[18:35:11] *** kukhuvud has joined #opensolaris[18:35:32] <fleyta> Any one available?[18:35:45] <nikolam> Ok, this is second time in last 24h that my X server is dieing (snv_131) and third time in 2 days.[18:35:45] *** Norrin has quit IRC[18:36:09] <nikolam> What debug files should I add to bug report?[18:36:20] <nikolam> That you recommend for debugging?[18:36:43] <fleyta> nikolam: cat </dev/mem >debug_file.txt[18:38:02] <fleyta> nikolam: That's a joke. /dev/mem would give you a full system memory dump.[18:38:28] *** afrasi has quit IRC[18:38:51] <nikolam> fleyta, wel , man I suppose there is some joke channel, you can have fun on, too.[18:39:24] *** swift has quit IRC[18:39:59] <wrapster> asyd: there?[18:40:11] <asyd> mostly[18:41:32] *** RoyK has joined #opensolaris[18:41:42] <wrapster> asyd: any ideas where i can at least start troubleshooting from?[18:41:51] *** lblume has quit IRC[18:42:00] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[18:42:41] *** Mace_N900 has joined #opensolaris[18:42:42] <fleyta> What would be a good mail subject for a job inquiry mail? "Job inquiry for Olga Kryzhanovska", "My job inquiry", "Olga Kryzhanovska's job inquiry". Must sound professional.[18:43:24] <nikolam> What is job inquiry?[18:43:49] <fleyta> nikolam: The letter you write if you want a job.[18:44:10] <Mace_N900> haha[18:44:28] <fleyta> ANY ONE AVAILABLE?[18:44:30] <Mace_N900> "Will work for food."[18:45:00] <nikolam> fleers, well, is there somewhere published that they want a new worker? Why would she send it if they dont want workers?[18:45:34] *** z0mbix has quit IRC[18:45:54] <fleers> eh?[18:46:04] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[18:46:07] *** Mongoose has joined #opensolaris[18:46:09] <wrapster> asyd: any ideas?[18:46:27] <Mongoose> Is there anyone here who is especially familiar with VirtualBox?[18:46:44] <asyd> wrapster: well, indeed modify the manifest[18:46:55] *** ozux has quit IRC[18:46:56] <kukhuvud> <fleyta> What would be a good mail subject for a job inquiry mail?[18:47:01] <wrapster> asyd: yes i have ,like i said already.[18:47:05] <nikolam> I could not say specially, but i use it sometimes. Mongoose[18:47:17] <fleyta> kukhuvud: Please, I need help.[18:47:20] <wrapster> i modified the sr/src/cmd/svc/profile/generic_open.xml[18:47:22] <kukhuvud> if you're responding to a job posting somewhere, i'd refer to the title of the posting in your e-mail subject, personally[18:47:30] <wrapster> to set smb/clients's enabled status to false[18:47:34] <wrapster> still no luck[18:47:39] <fleyta> kukhuvud: No, no specific posting.[18:47:50] <kukhuvud> hmmm[18:47:54] <wrapster> asyd: more xml files to be changed or something[18:47:58] <asyd> wrapster: network/samba.xml[18:47:59] <nikolam> fleers, how about Job inquiry - Olga surname[18:48:03] <kukhuvud> do you know if they even have a job available?[18:48:34] <asyd> but what are you trying to do is really... unusual :) just write a script after the build..[18:48:51] *** PatrickS has joined #opensolaris[18:49:17] <wrapster> asyd: no no.. thats not the point id like to understand why its happening...[18:49:28] <kukhuvud> "Job inquiry for Olga Kryzhanovska" isn't such a bad one[18:50:01] <wrapster> btw there is no network/samba.xml[18:50:03] <kukhuvud> but "cold emailing" will rarely get your foot in the door[18:50:07] *** Mongoose has left #opensolaris[18:50:18] <wrapster> asyd: under /var/svc/manifest/network[18:50:31] *** ElllisD has quit IRC[18:51:47] *** bubbva has joined #opensolaris[18:52:51] *** Mace_N900 has quit IRC[18:53:57] *** RoyK has quit IRC[18:53:59] *** ElllisD has joined #opensolaris[18:54:42] *** thistle__ has quit IRC[18:54:56] <CIA-21> batschul <Frank.Batschulat at Sun dot COM>: 6945930 typo in zonecfg.c:usage()[18:55:30] *** thistle__ has joined #opensolaris[18:55:35] *** fleyta has quit IRC[18:56:40] *** yarihm has quit IRC[18:57:50] <axisys> i need help removing a zfs fs w/o destroying its clone[18:57:53] <axisys> http://pastie.org/private/ohljwzmrdnamfx75adwq[18:58:28] <axisys> i want to remove all the above zfs fs except splunk/splunk.v4010[18:59:44] *** Faran has joined #opensolaris[19:00:23] <axisys> do I need to zfs send | zfs recv to separate the clone from the origin before i can destroy the origin?[19:01:13] <axisys> or is it zfs promote that will do the trick ?[19:01:40] *** effnorwood has quit IRC[19:02:49] <axisys> looks like promote will do it[19:05:18] *** nikolam has quit IRC[19:05:29] *** raichoo has joined #opensolaris[19:05:38] <lewellyn> wow. olga was here early today[19:06:41] *** nikolam has joined #opensolaris[19:07:16] *** Faran has quit IRC[19:07:40] <jthunder_> so syslog woes no more - removed the crashing syslogd (never did determine why it was failing) installed syslog-ng from CSW - changed the default config to listen on UDP 514, success[19:10:59] <CosmicDJ> lewellyn: olga was here 20min ago...[19:13:38] <lewellyn> yesh. which is early for her[19:17:49] *** Okona has quit IRC[19:18:08] <wrapster> asyd: network/samb.xml is present in builds >134[19:18:18] *** tosh has quit IRC[19:18:18] *** fleers1 has joined #opensolaris[19:18:18] <wrapster> asyd: so thats not on my build[19:18:22] *** jollyd has joined #opensolaris[19:18:41] *** jollyd has left #opensolaris[19:18:42] *** dalibor has quit IRC[19:19:48] *** fleers has quit IRC[19:22:59] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[19:25:16] *** hunter has joined #opensolaris[19:30:26] *** davidstastny has joined #opensolaris[19:30:43] <davidstastny> hi[19:31:31] <davidstastny> anybody got openvpn 2.1.1 running on opensolaris 2009.06 ?[19:32:10] <lewellyn> smrt: explain openvpn[19:32:10] <smrt> Um. I seem to not know anything about openvpn...[19:32:13] <lewellyn> hrmph.[19:32:24] <lewellyn> there are many many threads about that. moment[19:33:29] <Auralis> davidstastny: i have OpenVPN 2.1_rc19 i386-pc-solaris2.11 [SSL] [LZO2] built on Jan 28 2010[19:34:18] <kukhuvud> just so that it doesn't seem everyone's ignoring you, i don't have it running.... though i've never tried[19:34:39] <kukhuvud> i'm still trying to puzzle out nfs & cifs permissions over zfs ;)[19:35:09] *** xtrondo has quit IRC[19:35:22] <baza11215> i've got openvpn running, compiled from source[19:35:35] <baza11215> you need to install a tun/tap driver[19:35:38] <davidstastny> i compiled it from source[19:35:46] <davidstastny> with lzo[19:35:51] <davidstastny> and tun.c patch[19:36:02] <lewellyn> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6801799 seems relevant[19:36:10] <davidstastny> however, i keep getting "result too large (code=34)" error[19:36:14] <lewellyn> which *Should* mention http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=6220 but it doesn't[19:36:50] <lewellyn> swa isn't around, he'd be a good one to ask[19:36:57] <Doc> blah.. i must be losing it. i just spent 30 seconds trying to come up with a good troll that i haven't used before, but couldnt...[19:37:15] <Doc> so i'll just need to go with "hello" instead[19:37:16] <Doc> hello[19:37:41] <kukhuvud> i tried installing solaris 10 the other day[19:37:52] <kukhuvud> it was quite different from osol ;)[19:38:19] <kukhuvud> not user friendly for install, and i reallly disliked the java window manager ;)[19:38:31] <lewellyn> http://blogs.reucon.com/srt/2008/12/17/installing_openvpn_on_opensolaris_2008_11.html is what i was thinking of (ignore the rolemod)[19:38:50] <lewellyn> kukhuvud: the "java window manager" is gnome under a different name[19:38:51] *** fuku has joined #opensolaris[19:38:53] *** fuku has left #opensolaris[19:39:13] <Doc> lewellyn: cant be. Gnome isn't Java![19:39:34] <kukhuvud> yeah, it did kinda look like a heavily modified gnome[19:39:43] <davidstastny> ok i got it :)[19:40:23] <lewellyn> kukhuvud: it was just a theme. some people actually liked it![19:40:34] <kukhuvud> hehehe[19:40:49] <kukhuvud> i was sad to see the message that cde was being depreciated[19:40:55] <lewellyn> cde is gone[19:41:09] <kukhuvud> that was my very first *nix windowing environment[19:41:15] <davidstastny> thanks anyway[19:41:20] *** davidstastny has left #opensolaris[19:41:50] <lewellyn> kukhuvud: that'd make you a newcomer! ;)[19:41:56] * lewellyn wanders off for breakfast[19:42:14] *** sysspoof_ has joined #opensolaris[19:43:32] *** theandromedan has joined #opensolaris[19:44:04] *** ElllisD has left #opensolaris[19:44:17] *** cybernd has quit IRC[19:44:52] *** melbogia has quit IRC[19:44:55] *** T_sun has joined #opensolaris[19:45:05] <T_sun> Where would /etc/exports be on opensolaris?[19:45:19] *** ElllisD has joined #opensolaris[19:45:43] <CosmicDJ> T_sun: not needed anymore with zfs (and it was in /etc/dfs IIRC)[19:45:52] <CosmicDJ> but named differently, smth with *tab[19:47:06] <Auralis> /etc/dfs/dfstab[19:47:10] <T_sun> ah indeed, looks like everything that's in rpool is exported via nfs4[19:47:57] *** ElllisD has quit IRC[19:48:00] *** theandromedan has quit IRC[19:48:03] <T_sun> and that's in /etc/dfs/sharetab[19:48:37] <Auralis> sharetab is the running config btw, not something you want to edit[19:49:07] <T_sun> I just need to look :p[19:49:24] <CosmicDJ> yeah, and when you've enabled nfs (see man zfs, search for sharenfs) you've also enabled nfsv2 and nfsv3[19:49:31] <Auralis> share by itself will also list the currently shared filesystems[19:50:13] *** wdp has quit IRC[19:50:40] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[19:54:57] <CIA-21> Eiji Ota <Eiji.Ota at Sun dot COM>: 6946421 real gcc build fails in rdsv3[19:54:58] <CIA-21> Rajkumar Sivaprakasam <Rajkumar.Sivaprakasam at Sun dot COM>: 6944399 some memory leaks in ibnex_hca_bus_config_one()[19:55:00] <CIA-21> Peter Rival <Frank.Rival at oracle dot com>: 6778289 vm locks need to scale with the size of system (strands/memory size)[19:56:32] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris[19:58:41] *** sergiusens has joined #opensolaris[19:59:24] *** twilling has quit IRC[20:00:47] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[20:01:32] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[20:04:11] *** melbogia has quit IRC[20:04:26] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[20:04:29] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[20:06:31] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[20:08:03] *** ingenthr1 has joined #opensolaris[20:08:41] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[20:09:58] *** santoroj has quit IRC[20:14:00] *** alanst has joined #opensolaris[20:16:03] <wrapster> guys anyone willing to take up the issue at hand?[20:19:28] *** ElllisD has joined #opensolaris[20:20:12] *** T_sun has left #opensolaris[20:22:08] <CosmicDJ> still offline instead of disabled smb/client?[20:22:20] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[20:22:59] *** Odin- has quit IRC[20:24:26] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[20:24:33] <lewellyn> i thought alanc figured out the problem last night[20:26:15] <ElllisD> Could someone enlighten me some on partitioning? My goal is to have RAID50, and my controller doesn't let me change the disk size to <2TB. I currently have cfdisk up & would like to let osol install to 1 of 2 1.9TB partitions. Possible?[20:26:33] *** ingenthr1 has quit IRC[20:27:58] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[20:28:01] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[20:28:35] <lewellyn> is there a way to submit complaints about dlc.sun.com?[20:29:24] *** RoyK has joined #opensolaris[20:30:05] *** gebi has quit IRC[20:30:16] <odyi> ElllisD: Why use RAID50 and mess with disk controllers and partitioning in OpenSolaris when you can just use ZFS?[20:30:36] <lewellyn> (really a "bug/issue/defect", but i'm feeling complain-y)[20:30:38] <madwizard> lewellyn: Write complaint on a paper, wrap a rock with it and throw through a window[20:30:49] <lewellyn> madwizard: that didn't fix the mime type :)[20:31:05] <stallion_work> lewellyn: I missed your email last night...[20:31:10] *** Calibellus has joined #opensolaris[20:31:17] <lewellyn> stallion_work: i was on the phone till 2am[20:31:34] <wrapster> CosmicDJ: yes thats correct[20:31:41] <stallion_work> lewellyn: bah. excuses! ;)[20:31:47] <wrapster> lewellyn: no it was not to be.[20:31:48] <stallion_work> thats a hell of a conf. call[20:32:14] <lewellyn> stallion_work: it was all various calls throughout the day/night, all related to the same incident :P[20:32:32] <joshua_> nothing like an "incident" to liven up your day[20:32:48] <ElllisD> odyi: I had been using 3 RAID0 disks and got worried about a physical disk failure that zfs couldn't recover from since all 6 physicals were part of the 3 virtuals-[20:32:55] <lewellyn> joshua_: it's the oldest one still active in their system, afaik. dates back to early feb[20:33:05] *** Mousk4r1 has joined #opensolaris[20:33:35] <lewellyn> every day it continues, the bigger the loss i take on this project. *sigh*[20:34:26] <wrapster> CosmicDJ: any ideas..[20:34:33] <joshua_> sounds like a sucking situation[20:34:46] <wrapster> im ready to give anything a shot.. as i've exhausted everything i knew :([20:34:48] <lewellyn> it happens[20:35:03] <lewellyn> running a business means taking interesting risks :D[20:35:38] *** Mousk4r has quit IRC[20:35:40] <lewellyn> at least i know the score when i go into this situation again, which i hope to be very soon[20:36:43] <ivo_> dose anybody know if Solaris 10 will remain free?[20:37:08] <Auralis> it already costs[20:37:09] <joshua_> S10 has been announced to not remain free[20:37:28] <ivo_> I heard this too[20:37:39] <wrapster> CosmicDJ: there?[20:37:39] <joshua_> from now on, I believe you can only run S10 on Snorcle hardware[20:37:46] <ivo_> but there is still the possibility to download it for free[20:38:05] <ivo_> I have Solaris 10 running in VM[20:38:58] <ivo_> and you can also run sc10 zone[20:39:05] <ivo_> will this still be possible[20:39:23] <wrapster> lewellyn: do you mind looking at this? i have more info to share this time...[20:39:56] *** Hedonista has joined #opensolaris[20:40:24] <lewellyn> wrapster: i have no fucking clue what the hell you're doing, so i'm useless.[20:43:17] *** mavhc has quit IRC[20:49:57] *** astra-x has quit IRC[20:51:45] *** The-spiki has quit IRC[20:52:48] *** sergiusens has quit IRC[20:54:48] *** TommyTheKid has joined #opensolaris[20:54:51] <CIA-21> Mike Christensen <Michael.Christensen at Sun dot COM>: 6940624 Spurious DS console message: Service 'agent-system'/client already registered, 6945577 LDoms DS fails to register SP 'pri' if more than 10 active domains booted.[20:55:11] *** dajune has joined #opensolaris[20:55:33] *** winstonw_ has joined #opensolaris[20:55:41] *** echobinary has quit IRC[20:55:58] *** robo has quit IRC[20:59:26] *** jpd1234 has joined #opensolaris[20:59:33] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[20:59:46] *** comay has joined #opensolaris[20:59:58] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay[21:03:15] *** MattBenjamin has joined #opensolaris[21:03:41] *** mavhc has joined #opensolaris[21:06:16] *** rv- has joined #opensolaris[21:06:18] *** ThePickle has quit IRC[21:06:32] *** xtrondo has joined #opensolaris[21:14:03] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[21:17:08] *** leito has quit IRC[21:23:59] *** steinberg has quit IRC[21:24:20] *** Animal-X_ has joined #opensolaris[21:24:55] *** dalibor has quit IRC[21:25:06] *** Hedonista has joined #opensolaris[21:27:33] *** Animal-X has quit IRC[21:33:18] *** nikolam has quit IRC[21:36:17] *** ivo_ has quit IRC[21:38:14] *** ivo_ has joined #opensolaris[21:43:26] <hunter> Can anyone explain the difference between /boot/ and /rpool/boot ?[21:43:42] *** Mousk4r1 has quit IRC[21:44:01] *** alanst has quit IRC[21:44:10] *** Animal-X_ is now known as Animal-X[21:45:48] *** echobinary has joined #opensolaris[21:46:13] <ElllisD> I just installed the dev build 134 iso, and when I add the extra repo it stays empty in the package manager- & when I add the ha-cluster repo, it returns a network error.[21:46:15] *** kwinz3 has quit IRC[21:47:05] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[21:51:56] *** TomJ-- has quit IRC[21:52:31] *** Alasdairrr has quit IRC[21:54:20] *** reflect has joined #opensolaris[21:54:39] <reflect> good evening[21:54:44] *** Twigathy has quit IRC[21:54:51] <CIA-21> Patrick McGehearty <Patrick.McGehearty at Sun dot COM>: 6929152 kernel bcopy/copyin/copyout on Niagara2/RF could run substantially faster[21:54:52] <CIA-21> Rafael Vanoni <rafael.vanoni at oracle dot com>: 6946454 lb_info->lbi_cyc_deactivate should scale[21:54:53] *** ElllisD has left #opensolaris[21:55:54] *** Alasdairrr has joined #opensolaris[21:56:10] *** Twigathy has joined #opensolaris[21:56:29] *** kwinz3 has joined #opensolaris[21:57:54] *** cmbntr has joined #opensolaris[22:01:20] <hunter> If I need the "vers=3" option to mount (for compatibility with a linux file server) where/what syntax do I use in autofs tables?[22:01:32] <tsoome> man automount[22:01:37] <tsoome> its listed there[22:02:41] *** TomJ has joined #opensolaris[22:02:59] *** TommyTheKid has quit IRC[22:06:06] *** cybernd has joined #opensolaris[22:06:19] <hunter> tsoome: I'm not seeing what I should do.[22:06:30] <hunter> tsoome: does it go in the master, cover the whole table?[22:06:38] <hunter> no, that wouldn't make sense, hold on.[22:07:03] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[22:07:46] <hunter> Nope, still not getting it.[22:08:35] *** Stellar|2 has quit IRC[22:11:45] *** kohju has quit IRC[22:12:00] *** dnaumov has quit IRC[22:12:06] *** kohju has joined #opensolaris[22:13:01] *** echobinary has quit IRC[22:13:03] *** dnaumov has joined #opensolaris[22:13:43] *** x58 has quit IRC[22:13:58] <hunter> Got it. I was missing a dash.[22:14:41] *** x58 has joined #opensolaris[22:15:26] *** high-rez has joined #opensolaris[22:16:39] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[22:17:26] <tsoome> you can set global options from auto_master, and entry specific options from map itself, like auto_home[22:18:20] <hunter> yeah.[22:18:21] *** Odin- has quit IRC[22:18:36] *** sergiusens has joined #opensolaris[22:18:44] <hunter> Now I can mount and read files, but can't write (as root) despite having "no_root_squash_ set on the server[22:19:16] <tsoome> solaris has no such option. man share_nfs[22:19:38] <hunter> The server, in this case, is a linux machine[22:21:24] *** Mongoose has joined #opensolaris[22:21:34] *** Mongoose has left #opensolaris[22:23:20] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[22:24:16] *** nitrile has quit IRC[22:26:18] *** icarus902 has quit IRC[22:26:34] *** mroconnor has quit IRC[22:31:53] *** dalibor has quit IRC[22:32:31] *** kobrien has joined #opensolaris[22:32:45] <kobrien> wow, popular channel[22:33:32] *** ozux has quit IRC[22:34:01] *** melbogia has quit IRC[22:34:16] <hunter> oh yeah - all the cool kids are running it. :)[22:35:31] <kobrien> :) i've ran it for testing purposes. i'm building a new workstation, trying to decide between opensolaris and ubuntu[22:35:37] <kobrien> zfs is attractive[22:36:31] *** TommyTheKid has joined #opensolaris[22:36:51] *** ku0n has joined #opensolaris[22:38:05] <ku0n> hello[22:38:13] <kobrien> hi[22:38:53] *** echobinary has joined #opensolaris[22:38:53] <ku0n> I'm on b134, and I try to use php-cgi, I got http://pastebin.org/171069 any idea before I compile my own?[22:39:00] <ku0n> this is with osol package[22:39:26] *** Mace_N900 has joined #opensolaris[22:39:40] <kobrien> hmm, you lack php core[22:40:08] <kobrien> and the associated modules[22:40:35] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[22:40:38] <kobrien> shouldn't need to compile your own[22:40:46] <ku0n> php works, it's just php-cgi[22:40:56] <kobrien> hmm[22:41:31] <kobrien> i haven't run osol for a while. I'm out of ideas[22:42:09] <ku0n> np, I'll compile my own[22:42:31] *** phil_ has quit IRC[22:44:12] <kobrien> ku0n: strange that the package wouldn't provide it[22:44:20] *** piwi has joined #opensolaris[22:44:22] *** winstonw_ has quit IRC[22:44:46] <ku0n> it looks like it was compiled wrongly to me, as it's not missing a lib, but symbols[22:46:47] *** yippi has quit IRC[22:50:01] *** Rach has left #opensolaris[22:51:21] <tsoome> which symbols?[22:53:14] *** Animal-X has quit IRC[22:53:23] *** relling has joined #opensolaris[22:53:59] <stallion_work> hrmm[22:54:17] <stallion_work> Anyone interested in a Sun Ray 2 in perfect condition?[22:54:28] <stallion_work> less than 6 mos. old[22:54:50] <reflect> stallion_work: can it be used with anything other than the sunray software?[22:54:59] <CIA-21> Wyllys Ingersoll <wyllys.ingersoll at sun dot com>: 6944179 kmf_sign_cert needs more info about signing algorithm, 6944121 KMF should add Basic-Constraint when keyCertSign EKU is set, 6943253 pktool should ask to overwrite a CSR file if it already exists, 6943234 pktool online help wrongly suggests we can delete a key based on its subject-DN, 6940180 certClass should be called privClass (or just class) in KMFPK11_FindPrikeyByCert(), 6940146 kmf_sign_data() retur[22:55:03] <alanc> reflect: no[22:55:23] <reflect> alanc: thank you[22:55:26] <lewellyn> stallion_work: perhaps... but i can't afford it atm :([22:55:42] <stallion_work> lewellyn: oh? I'd probably take 200$ for it.[22:56:01] <lewellyn> hm... tempting![22:56:07] <stallion_work> Looks like I may be able to walk out of here with my Ultra 24[22:56:15] <lewellyn> wow[22:56:30] <stallion_work> Its been a good machine - I'm a little attached to it :D[22:57:35] <reflect> which was the most beefy sparc workstation?[22:57:55] <reflect> u80 was pretty beefy, 10 years ago or so..[22:57:59] <stallion_work> probably the 2500[22:58:21] <lewellyn> ok... not picking up a call from a 976 #[22:58:31] <reflect> sunblade.. hm..[22:58:35] <reflect> I had one of those..[22:58:36] <reflect> 1000?[22:58:52] <reflect> 650mhz USIII[22:58:56] <reflect> two of them[23:00:27] <stallion_work> A blade 1000 is a far cry from the 2500[23:01:05] <stallion_work> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Blade_%28workstation%29[23:01:24] *** The-spiki has joined #opensolaris[23:01:39] <reflect> damn[23:02:07] <reflect> they ramped up the MHz quite a bit :)[23:02:12] *** melbogia has quit IRC[23:02:32] <reflect> only thing missing is the release year, and the EOL year[23:02:47] *** chainey has joined #opensolaris[23:02:56] <stallion_work> The Ultra 45 may have been more performant - dunno.[23:03:11] <reflect> but that's using x86, right?[23:03:31] *** cmbntr has quit IRC[23:03:44] <stallion_work> No[23:03:56] <stallion_work> that was the last Ultra that packed a SPARC[23:04:03] <stallion_work> (or one of the last at least)[23:04:23] *** sergiusens has quit IRC[23:04:25] <lewellyn> some would say the end of the line for machines which can legitimately bear the name[23:04:35] *** sysspoof_ has quit IRC[23:04:54] <panos> hello[23:05:03] <reflect> once upon a time, I worked for a sun reseller[23:05:07] <reflect> a MAR, even[23:05:17] <reflect> back in that day, SPARC was.. holy[23:05:26] <hunter> I still don't get the content differece of /boot and rpool/boot[23:05:29] <reflect> intel was the devil :)[23:05:35] <hunter> Why are those two dirs not the same?[23:05:57] <lewellyn> hunter: /boot is inside the BE, the BE lives within the rpool[23:05:58] <lewellyn> zfs list[23:06:15] <hunter> hunh? I did not understand that.[23:06:28] <lewellyn> zfs list may make it clearer[23:06:31] *** blizzow has quit IRC[23:06:44] <reflect> (VAR, perhaps?)[23:06:47] <lewellyn> the thing mounted at /rpool is actually the parent of the mounted BE[23:06:57] *** PrestonConnors has left #opensolaris[23:07:48] <hunter> lewellyn: actually, that ADDED to the confusion, since /rpool contains both an etc and boot directory, but zfs list shows neither, and I would have expected it too[23:09:14] <hunter> um, so /boot lives inside the BE, the BE lives inside the rpool - so basically /boot is /rpool/ROOT/opensolaris-1/boot ?[23:09:22] <hunter> If so, I kind of understand that.[23:09:48] <hunter> But I'm stil thrown by /rpool/boot and why it exists at all.[23:10:02] <bdha> Because of how zfsroot works.[23:10:16] <bdha> It is not very interesting. Just remember that's where it lives.[23:10:22] <hunter> care to elaborate?[23:10:30] <hunter> Thats not useful at all.[23:10:54] <bdha> Why would you expect directories to show up in zfs list?[23:10:58] <stallion_work> hunter: its done that way so grub can load a menu without loading a specific BE[23:11:06] <bdha> They are not datasets.[23:11:10] <bdha> What stallion_work said.[23:12:29] <stallion_work> hunter: if you look carefully at what is under /rpool/boot you will find that there is marker information so grub can figure out which dataset to workwith when bootstrapping[23:12:36] *** baza11215 has quit IRC[23:12:44] <stallion_work> I believe all of this is documented under the zfs-boot project on os.o[23:13:48] <hunter> That helps.[23:14:03] <hunter> The first statement esp, about not needing to load a specific BE[23:14:36] <hunter> Does each BE need a /boot then? Or is that also for the bootstrapping process?[23:14:48] *** raichoo1 has joined #opensolaris[23:15:21] *** raichoo1 has quit IRC[23:15:50] <lewellyn> yes. that's how the actual boot happens[23:16:25] <hunter> So /rpool/boot is consulted to figure out which BE should run, and then THAT BE's /boot is used to do the actual booting?[23:16:41] <lewellyn> pretty much, yes[23:16:52] *** Calibellus_ has joined #opensolaris[23:17:18] *** raichoo has quit IRC[23:17:30] *** melbogia has joined #opensolaris[23:18:23] <stallion_work> hunter: not quite. /rpoo/boot is used to find the appropriate grub bits so the system can be bootstrapped. The grub menu is going to instruct grub which BE to actually boot; at which time that /boot will be used to complete the process.[23:18:32] <stallion_work> /rpool/ rather[23:19:28] <hunter> ok, now I mostly understand why there are two and why they are different.[23:19:37] <hunter> Which is close enough for gubmint work[23:19:53] *** Beket has quit IRC[23:20:08] <hunter> I need to go pull a drive from one of the test system and make sure my config boots with a dead drive.[23:22:51] *** niq has quit IRC[23:23:08] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[23:23:09] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[23:28:36] *** sk0rd has quit IRC[23:30:15] <lewellyn> stallion_work: he was close enough for his needs, though :)[23:30:46] <stallion_work> bah, pedantry should be a virtue :P[23:31:06] <lewellyn> so should free time :([23:31:21] <lewellyn> i swear i've gone more gray this week than i should have :P[23:31:28] <hunter> that was last week[23:31:59] <lewellyn> i think i'm making the gf feel old. she's asking me to shave the gray facial hair :P[23:32:02] <stallion_work> lewellyn: now that I'm back to growing my beard again, my wife insists on pointing out how much gray is in it.[23:32:18] <TommyTheKid> hunter: the problem is not realy a pulled drive, its a "dead" drive.. i.e. there but broken.. pulled is an ideal case :)[23:32:25] <stallion_work> of course, shes the one that put it there in the first place...[23:32:25] <lewellyn> stallion_work: she doesn't do that. she just points out that i need to get rid of it :P[23:33:07] *** ku0n has quit IRC[23:33:10] *** communicator has joined #opensolaris[23:35:17] <hunter> TommyTheKid: failed drives easily turn into pulled drives if needed.[23:35:55] <hunter> There's a note about not using whole drive installs if you want to boot from a zfs mirror - but I think thats old docs not reflecting current code.[23:36:07] <lewellyn> stallion_work: just don't tell her that ;)[23:36:15] <hunter> I'm going to phyically test it so I don't have to argue with google or irc. :)[23:36:44] <lewellyn> i may shave my beard off tonight. i lose ten years when i do :)[23:37:02] <lewellyn> maybe even more, since i get IDed for cigarettes even when i've shaved[23:37:41] <lewellyn> hunter: you can't boot from a full-disk zfs. that's why rpool is on a partition[23:38:03] <lewellyn> you can't, e.g. make a zfs whole-disk mirror called rpool and install to it[23:38:10] <TommyTheKid> hunter: its good that you are testing, far too many people take for granted that it will work until bad htings happen.[23:38:39] <TommyTheKid> the reason I mentioned the "bad but not gone" is that I have been bit by it before, and had to pay the "hands fee" to have someone go into our cage and pull the disk so I could get the server back online[23:39:03] <TommyTheKid> mind you that was a v65x or something?[23:39:38] *** TommyTheKid has quit IRC[23:42:03] *** projectmoon has joined #opensolaris[23:43:09] *** kukhuvud has quit IRC[23:44:15] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[23:44:49] *** Calibellus_ has quit IRC[23:49:25] <hunter> lewellyn: yeah, but pulling a drive and playing around with zpool, I've just noticed that - that in the osol installer, when it says "whole disk" it really means "whole disk (and I'll silently make slices on it for you)"[23:49:45] <hunter> Which is fine - programs that lie and do the right thing are fine. :)[23:50:16] <lewellyn> hunter: no, it's not fine. it's confusing. the word whole is inapproprate there[23:50:22] <lewellyn> i keep meaning to file a bug[23:50:31] <lewellyn> s/Whole/Complete/ # would fix it :)[23:50:34] <stallion_work> lewellyn: s/whole/entire/[23:50:57] <stallion_work> I believe "entire" is the language used by format(1M)[23:50:58] <lewellyn> stallion_work: those two words are too likely to be conflated :)[23:51:00] <hunter> from an old school linux person, the whole solaris fetish of partitions, slices, and vtocs is just silly. But I make allowances[23:51:09] <lewellyn> stallion_work: indeed, both are used in here[23:51:23] <stallion_work> hunter: heh. The world does not revolve around BIOS and its retardedishness.[23:51:42] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[23:51:48] <lewellyn> hunter: extended partitions are even more broken :)[23:51:53] <stallion_work> diskslices are hardly unique to Solaris[23:51:54] *** dduvall has quit IRC[23:52:04] <lewellyn> (which opensolaris JUST got support for recently)[23:52:20] *** Mace_N900 has quit IRC[23:52:31] *** paddy has quit IRC[23:53:00] <hunter> I'd say with zfs on the way in and UFS/old stuff on the way out, just drop vtocs and slices completely. But there's bound to be people out there that want them or claim to need them for something, so I'm sure we're stuck forever.[23:53:22] *** bubbva has quit IRC[23:54:11] <lewellyn> till zfs efi partitions are bootable, we're stuck with the status quo[23:54:14] <hunter> For our needs here, I only have to monkey with such silliness during installs and working on the rpool, so no biggie[23:54:22] <lewellyn> if you don't like it, the source is open and patches are accepted )[23:54:23] <lewellyn> :)[23:54:29] <hunter> for now[23:54:30] <hunter> :)[23:55:01] <stallion_work> hunter: err.. what? UFS is still quite alive.[23:55:09] *** chainey has quit IRC[23:55:25] <stallion_work> vtocs are still necessary for zfs-boot[23:55:33] <stallion_work> and will be until EFI finally replaces BIOS[23:57:38] *** kwinz3 has quit IRC[23:58:16] * hunter isn't sure he likes EFI[23:58:52] <hunter> I'm no fan of most any bios (except maybe the IBM xseries), but EFI isn't all that and slice of pudding.[23:59:11] <lewellyn> it corrects lots of shortcomings and, unlike the bios, can be extended[23:59:55] <lewellyn> i wonder what needs to happen for efi booting to be possible