April 20, 2010 
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April 20, 2010 [00:00:51] *** _madmax_ has joined #opensolaris[00:04:01] *** santoroj has joined #opensolaris[00:09:16] <richlowe> jmcp: hate that.[00:09:31] <richlowe> jmcp: nothing worse than filling a directory with crud, then realizing you wish it was an fs.[00:10:36] *** pangu has quit IRC[00:13:05] *** bubbva has joined #opensolaris[00:15:05] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[00:15:06] *** ingenthr1 has quit IRC[00:17:08] *** hertz60 has joined #opensolaris[00:17:23] *** DexterF has quit IRC[00:17:37] *** lesterc` has quit IRC[00:18:43] <ryoohki> i have a toshiba laptop and everytime i try to install opensolaris the when the kernel starts it locks up with a blinking "_" cusor and a caps-lock led that stays lit.[00:19:45] *** gebi has quit IRC[00:19:52] *** vivid has joined #opensolaris[00:21:15] *** ma3x has joined #opensolaris[00:22:37] *** jpd1234 has quit IRC[00:23:26] *** bobbyz has quit IRC[00:23:33] *** rmorse has joined #opensolaris[00:23:41] *** _madmax_ has quit IRC[00:24:19] *** rmorse has quit IRC[00:25:15] *** psychicist has quit IRC[00:28:09] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[00:28:11] *** moepmoep has quit IRC[00:29:13] <nikolam> ryoohki, what version is it. 2009.06 or genunix.org snv_134 ?[00:30:33] *** santoroj has quit IRC[00:30:48] *** hertz60 has quit IRC[00:30:52] *** dalibor has quit IRC[00:33:07] *** moepmoep has joined #opensolaris[00:38:53] *** wdp_aao has joined #opensolaris[00:40:01] *** bitblt has quit IRC[00:40:44] *** ayarter has joined #opensolaris[00:41:18] <ayarter> Hey all. I'm using opensolaris sparc svn 134, and I have two monitors attached. They work fine, but I can't change the virtual screen size to unmirror them. One's using HDMI, the other VGA[00:41:33] <ayarter> I'm unable to locate or create an xorg.cfg for it. I'm using an XVR-100[00:42:09] <ayarter> is there any other way to change the virtual screen size?[00:42:41] <alanc> HDMI? you mean DVI?[00:42:59] <alanc> I didn't think any SPARC graphics were new enough to have HDMI[00:43:04] <alanc> anyways - try fbconfig[00:43:12] <ayarter> oh, its hdmi. :)[00:43:26] <alanc> fbconfig will make an xorg.conf for you[00:43:51] <ayarter> I'll look into that. Once it creates it, I just place it in /etc/X11?[00:45:16] <alanc> it should put it in /etc/X11 for you[00:45:16] *** niq has quit IRC[00:45:27] <alanc> you can make your own in /etc/X11/xorg.conf too[00:45:30] <ayarter> oh, fantastic. Then I should just be able to edit the virtual size[00:46:49] <ayarter> thanks![00:46:56] <ayarter> and when I reboot, itll use it automatically?[00:47:10] *** jmancuso has joined #opensolaris[00:47:59] *** Zplay has quit IRC[00:48:22] <alanc> if you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf, it will be used automatically when the X server restarts, just as with every version of Xorg on every platform[00:48:28] <alanc> no reboot needed even[00:48:55] <ayarter> perfect. thanks![00:50:24] *** ayarter has quit IRC[00:50:49] *** lattera has quit IRC[00:54:11] *** seanmcg_wfh has joined #opensolaris[00:55:51] <CIA-21> tim szeto <Tim.Szeto at Sun dot COM>: 6940915 deadlock: cycle in blocking chain via stmf_itl_kstat_lookup[00:57:30] *** Burana has quit IRC[00:58:50] *** Burana has joined #opensolaris[01:06:57] <ryoohki> nikolam: both versions, same result[01:09:16] <nikolam> ryoohki, report a bug to bugs.opensolaris.org also, would be nice to mention exactly what model it is etc. Try to boot from image on usb.[01:09:46] <zedrich> rootas far as stability goes... Ive found 111b to be more more so than 131-134[01:10:45] *** ttys0 has joined #opensolaris[01:12:30] *** Garen_ has joined #opensolaris[01:12:42] *** _madmax_ has joined #opensolaris[01:14:28] *** Garen has quit IRC[01:17:12] *** seanmcg_wfh has quit IRC[01:18:49] *** andersenep has quit IRC[01:20:06] *** Garen_ has quit IRC[01:20:07] *** Garen has joined #opensolaris[01:21:37] *** lattera has joined #opensolaris[01:21:49] *** dover has joined #opensolaris[01:24:01] *** Garen_ has joined #opensolaris[01:25:49] *** cybernd has quit IRC[01:26:03] *** andersenep has joined #opensolaris[01:26:08] *** Garen has quit IRC[01:28:10] *** leito has quit IRC[01:30:05] *** Mousk4r has quit IRC[01:30:58] *** davenz has joined #opensolaris[01:32:11] *** leito has joined #opensolaris[01:35:07] *** _madmax_ has quit IRC[01:36:23] *** yippi has quit IRC[01:47:34] *** Animal-X has joined #opensolaris[01:48:21] *** swa_work has joined #opensolaris[01:49:03] *** Andys^ has quit IRC[02:01:33] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[02:05:24] *** bubbva has quit IRC[02:12:01] *** vivid has quit IRC[02:12:09] *** vraa has quit IRC[02:17:50] *** Andys^ has joined #opensolaris[02:20:22] *** darki has quit IRC[02:23:54] *** vivid has joined #opensolaris[02:29:51] *** ayarter has joined #opensolaris[02:30:22] *** _madmax_ has joined #opensolaris[02:30:31] <ayarter> Thanks all. That worked just fine for me. One last q, I need to rebuild Audacity since I lost the org packages. It seems the spec files have changed, and I can't build the new audacity. The old one worked fine. is there an archive of the spec files and the patches?[02:31:25] <Jondice> ayarter, I'm curious, what system are you using[02:31:36] <ayarter> opensolaris sparc[02:32:09] <Jondice> ayarter, I know, I'm just curious which model you have[02:32:14] <ayarter> And now in build 134, its beautiful.[02:32:20] <lewellyn> ayarter: where did you get audacity?[02:32:23] <ayarter> Oh, sunblade 2500[02:32:36] <ayarter> lewell: I built it from the spec files 6 months ago.[02:32:43] <lewellyn> which spec file?[02:32:43] <ayarter> Now they've bumped the version number, and it doesn't build.[02:33:02] <ayarter> SFE/SFEaudacity.spec[02:33:08] <ayarter> I wish I'd have saved the packages. lol[02:33:25] <lewellyn> ok. sfe... you can always revert to an older version through svn :)[02:33:44] <ayarter> That's what I thought. I wasn't sure though[02:33:47] <lewellyn> if it were a jds spec file you could do the same there, too. i don't know for sure if it works with jucr's specs :)[02:34:02] <ayarter> How would I revert back?[02:35:33] <ayarter> do I pick a new directory revision?[02:36:04] <lewellyn> find when it was changed and update to that revision[02:37:15] <ayarter> 2176 apparantly[02:37:18] <lewellyn> there's a viewvc instance at sourceforge which makes it easy to find revision histories of files[02:37:32] <lewellyn> you could bug the maintainer to fix it too :)[02:38:00] <ayarter> well, I'm using sparc. I wont' hold my breath[02:38:13] <ayarter> The old version worked like a charm though.[02:38:49] <lewellyn> who maintains that one?[02:38:50] *** dalibor has quit IRC[02:39:24] <ayarter> yippi, apparantly[02:39:47] <lewellyn> i think yippi has access to sparc machines :)[02:40:36] <ayarter> well, that would be fantasic. Hoenstly, I bought this awhile ago to work with S10. I was going to buy a new computer, but OpenSolaris sparc makes it more than usable.[02:40:37] <alanc> one or two[02:40:54] <alanc> well, if he really tried, probably one or two thousand...[02:40:55] <ayarter> and since its stable as hell, and my laptop is fast, I don't need to buy another.[02:40:57] *** ivo_ has quit IRC[02:41:07] <lewellyn> alanc: that was what i was thinking :)[02:41:20] * lewellyn wonders why he can't hit his new server *sigh*[02:41:23] <ayarter> So, I'd just revert svn back to 2176. I'll have to figure out how to do that[02:41:24] <ayarter> lol[02:41:34] <lewellyn> ayarter: iirc, svn up -r 2176[02:41:54] <alanc> and that's before just guessing which sun ray servers or personal desktops are sparcs vs. x86[02:43:29] <ayarter> well, that would sure be neat if it worked out[02:46:46] <ayarter> well, fantastic[02:47:38] *** piwi has quit IRC[02:50:24] *** tosh has quit IRC[02:51:06] <ayarter> seems to have gone great[02:51:08] <ayarter> Thanks again[02:54:34] <andersenep> well, i don't know what the hell i did, but all of a sudden opensolaris is only seeing my cpu as having 1 core[02:55:03] <ayarter> well, that's weird.[02:55:10] <andersenep> not cool at all[02:55:23] <ayarter> I'm not even sure where I'd start with that once[02:55:32] <andersenep> you and me both[02:55:33] <ayarter> But there are some really bright people in here. =P[02:56:16] * lewellyn cuts the power[02:57:38] <ayarter> why would you ever do a thing like that?[02:57:44] *** stevel has quit IRC[02:58:14] *** Bateau has joined #opensolaris[02:58:49] <lewellyn> we're not so bright anymore! ;)[02:59:07] *** leito has quit IRC[02:59:48] <ayarter> Oh no you didn't.[03:00:38] <ayarter> 1 core, eh? well, heck, you're using x86?[03:00:50] *** leito has joined #opensolaris[03:00:56] <andersenep> yeah[03:01:19] <ayarter> are you using a preview, or 2009/06[03:01:38] <andersenep> naw, snv134[03:01:47] <andersenep> it's got something to do with these legacy nvidia drivers[03:02:00] *** icarus902 has quit IRC[03:02:04] <andersenep> pulled the card and went back to onboard ati graphics and 3 cores decided to disappear[03:02:09] <ayarter> oh, I was gonna reccomend a livecd and see if it sees both cores[03:02:12] <andersenep> booted to old BE and they came back[03:02:32] <ayarter> God, I can't help you there man[03:02:54] <andersenep> yeah, it's pretty wierd[03:03:52] <andersenep> can i install just a new boot environment from cd?[03:04:05] <ayarter> I believe so.[03:04:32] <ayarter> from the bootable AI, I'd guess.[03:06:33] <lewellyn> (tsclient:2793): GLib-GObject-WARNING **: gsignal.c:2387: instance `818d0e0' has no handler with id `1244'[03:06:43] <lewellyn> now THAT's a useful error message! :P[03:07:20] <ayarter> haha. right?[03:07:28] <ayarter> lewell:Building perfectly. Thanks![03:07:54] <echobinary> anyone know a way to reset S.M.A.R.T. data? I have a drive that overheated once - is showing bad sectors in S.M.A.R.T. history - but I've been running a read/write badblocks on it for several hours now and not one error has come up - im certain it is a glitch. - I want to keep the drive and use it - would just prefer that SMART not flip out every time[03:08:13] <lewellyn> echobinary: ask the manufacturer.[03:08:20] <lewellyn> each manufacturer handles smart differently[03:08:24] <echobinary> okie[03:08:45] <lewellyn> i'd call it a good time to RMA the disk though :)[03:09:00] <lewellyn> "it keeps giving me read errors" :)[03:09:46] <ayarter> haha! Right?[03:09:46] <echobinary> its old - about 100GB - made in 07 looks like[03:09:59] <ayarter> Oh, I see. I need to go buy a firewire drive or something[03:10:04] <echobinary> probably came as part of another OEM .. like a laptop or something - it's a seagate[03:10:07] <ayarter> Internal storage on this beast is way too expensive.[03:10:19] <lewellyn> echobinary: look up on seagate's site whether it's still warranted :)[03:10:29] <ayarter> I've had less likely things happen![03:10:34] <echobinary> yeah I guess that's my only option[03:10:46] <lewellyn> it's not the only option, but it's probably the most prudent[03:10:54] <ayarter> back when WD had three year warranties, I once made it by two days.[03:11:19] <echobinary> funny - I even went into BIOS and disabled SMART for the drive - but the knoppix live CD that im using to scan the drive reads smart data anyways (DOH!)[03:11:33] <echobinary> ayarter: wow[03:11:44] <lewellyn> this is #opensolaris. we don't know anything about knoppix ;)[03:11:53] <echobinary> wasn't asking about knoppix[03:11:54] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[03:11:56] <echobinary> just talking[03:11:59] <ayarter> You should try the opensolaris live cd and see how it goes ;)[03:12:05] <lewellyn> and i'm being snarky[03:12:22] * echobinary slices lewellyn into tiny pieces with a high powered CO2 laser[03:12:25] <echobinary> me too :-)[03:12:33] <echobinary> and thanks[03:12:36] * lewellyn feeds echobinary sulphuric acid[03:12:41] <echobinary> yummy![03:12:44] <echobinary> NOM[03:13:02] <ayarter> I just prefer to use a stapler.[03:14:13] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[03:19:33] <ayarter> is there a way to make the gnome volume control persist between boots, besides audioplay?[03:20:51] <lattera> ayarter, http://thestaticvoid.com/post/2009/11/25/mixer-state-in-opensolaris/[03:21:17] *** Animal-X has quit IRC[03:21:46] <lattera> haven't tried it myself, but I will[03:21:58] <lattera> got a few more important things to work out... like NFS[03:22:41] <ayarter> thanks![03:23:52] <ayarter> I was having some nfs issues here too, but I haven't tried it out since.[03:24:29] *** andersenep has quit IRC[03:24:40] <ayarter> the media server / emulator that accesses the fileserver most is windows, so its just on samba atm[03:24:50] <ayarter> until I feel like spending some time to diagnose the issue. lol[03:24:57] <ayarter> which means not get laid for a few days.[03:25:31] *** andersenep has joined #opensolaris[03:25:47] *** andersenep has left #opensolaris[03:26:00] *** andersenep has joined #opensolaris[03:26:42] *** baby has joined #opensolaris[03:32:40] *** sactodave1 has quit IRC[03:33:13] *** baby has quit IRC[03:33:47] *** baby has joined #opensolaris[03:35:45] *** baby has quit IRC[03:38:30] *** ayarter has quit IRC[03:40:43] *** freetown2 has joined #opensolaris[03:47:00] *** swa_work has quit IRC[03:47:09] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[03:47:52] <freetown2> anybody have any idea when the next OSOL release will be?[03:48:10] *** p3rror has quit IRC[03:48:54] <jamesd_laptop> freetown2, soon but we dont know, it was supposed to be called 032010[03:49:01] <jamesd_laptop> er 2010.03[03:49:35] <freetown2> woohoo! I guess it will be in time for the summer server upgrade then[03:49:55] <ttys0> I'm more interested in snv_137 hitting IPS[03:50:22] <freetown2> what's new in snv-137?[03:50:37] <freetown2> or is it a particular bug you are looking out for?[03:50:45] <freetown2> bug fix i mean[03:51:05] <ttys0> freetown2: there's a potentially ugly bug in 134, and I'm a little interested to see if the DFS support actually works, though that's just a curiosity[03:51:39] <jamesd_laptop> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b83/on-changelog-b83.html freetown2 replace the 83's with the version are you wondering about[03:51:51] <freetown2> DFS support? Not that Microsoft thing is it?[03:52:17] <ttys0> freetown2: yep, the CIFS server is supposed to support it[03:53:39] <freetown2> oh...i'm still using samba[03:53:48] <freetown2> no problemo there...[03:55:14] *** ryoohki has quit IRC[03:55:19] *** Mdx4 has quit IRC[03:55:28] <freetown2> cor, zfs code ain't quite static eh...[03:56:39] <crichardso> b@dmin42[03:57:02] <freetown2> ttys0, looks like your wish might be granted...something about standalone DFS in the 137 changelog...[03:57:41] <ttys0> yep, I'm curious to see if it actually works[03:58:04] <freetown2> so what do you plan to do with DFS? mirroring?[03:58:14] <ttys0> crichardso: dontcha hate it when you type passwords into the wrong window ;)[03:58:37] * freetown2 takes snapshot of xchat[03:59:10] <freetown2> now for an ip and username...[03:59:22] <ttys0> freetown2: if it actually works, it'll let me get rid of some Windows boxes that are currently acting as file servers[04:00:46] *** tg has quit IRC[04:01:39] *** p3rror has joined #opensolaris[04:05:09] *** ozux has quit IRC[04:06:04] *** crazed has quit IRC[04:10:24] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[04:11:31] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[04:12:17] *** crazed has joined #opensolaris[04:15:36] *** andersenep_ has joined #opensolaris[04:16:17] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #opensolaris[04:18:22] *** mroessler has joined #opensolaris[04:18:38] *** andersenep has quit IRC[04:18:38] *** andersenep_ is now known as andersenep[04:28:42] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[04:30:25] *** icarus902 has joined #opensolaris[04:31:23] *** nikolam has quit IRC[04:32:16] *** nikolam has joined #opensolaris[04:35:22] *** panos has quit IRC[04:35:50] *** panos has joined #opensolaris[04:37:16] *** panos has quit IRC[04:37:16] *** lesterc has joined #opensolaris[04:38:28] *** mroessler has quit IRC[04:38:42] *** panos has joined #opensolaris[04:39:07] *** panos has joined #opensolaris[04:39:45] *** skeeziks has quit IRC[04:43:11] *** panos has joined #opensolaris[04:43:54] *** panos has quit IRC[04:44:25] *** Calibellus has quit IRC[04:45:00] *** panos has joined #opensolaris[04:47:42] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[04:48:10] *** projectmoon has quit IRC[05:00:11] *** jmancuso has quit IRC[05:00:45] *** eleusis has quit IRC[05:01:41] *** Odin- has quit IRC[05:01:58] *** lateau_ has joined #opensolaris[05:02:05] *** eleusis has joined #opensolaris[05:02:05] *** eleusis has joined #opensolaris[05:02:59] *** ingenthr1 has joined #opensolaris[05:03:42] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[05:06:57] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[05:14:48] *** sand_man has joined #opensolaris[05:15:28] <sand_man> I'm just about to update to a dev build for the first time. any idea how long it will take? similar to a FreeBSD upgrade?[05:18:51] <bdrewery> took me about an hour and a reboot[05:19:17] <sand_man> ah that's good[05:19:27] <bdrewery> mostly downloading/planning[05:21:33] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[05:22:55] <jthunder> Which of the NFS related services/daemons can I safely disable if I use CIFS and netatalk to share filesystems?[05:24:49] <jamesd_laptop> sand_man, how much ram do you have.. it takes a minum of ram+swap of 1GB.. more is better and speeds the process[05:27:42] <richlowe> crossing 133 is the bit that truly hurts.[05:34:02] *** datadigger has quit IRC[05:36:51] *** randw has quit IRC[05:38:40] *** dalibor has quit IRC[05:42:11] *** Mantis_Shrimp has joined #opensolaris[05:43:27] <sand_man> 4GB[05:43:35] <sand_man> but I have 2 virtual machines running[05:43:59] <sand_man> it keeps timing out when it tries to "evaluate" evolution[05:44:33] <sand_man> is there a way I can ignore a package when updating?[05:50:17] <jamesd_laptop> sand_man, i would add more swap and try and let it fishish or kill or suspend a virtual[05:55:01] *** radsy has quit IRC[05:56:27] <Mantis_Shrimp> Hey :D[05:56:31] <Mantis_Shrimp> Sorry for this newbish question[05:56:35] <Mantis_Shrimp> but I have the LiveCD[05:56:40] *** datadigger has joined #opensolaris[05:56:46] <Mantis_Shrimp> And this computer is too old to run the graphical installer (or just cant)[05:56:51] <Mantis_Shrimp> So what user do I use to log on[05:58:31] <sand_man> jamesd_laptop: I ran update-image from cli and it's downloading now[05:58:35] <alanc> user jack, password jack[05:59:11] <alanc> but if you can't run the graphical installer, you can't install from the LiveCD, since there is no other installer on there[06:00:03] <Mantis_Shrimp> OK, thanks anyways :/[06:00:10] <Mantis_Shrimp> I was planning to test it on this computer[06:00:24] <Mantis_Shrimp> Well as a matter of fact[06:00:36] <Mantis_Shrimp> I'm not sure if the graphical installer could run or not[06:00:45] <alanc> if it's just the login gui came up, then it's probably a bug in autologin[06:00:45] <Mantis_Shrimp> It's just that the desktop was so sluggish i couldn't click it[06:01:09] <Mantis_Shrimp> OK. I've logged in - now, what is the installer's name?[06:01:46] <alanc> I don't remember - there should be an icon on the desktop[06:02:01] <Mantis_Shrimp> Unfortunately, I can't start the desktop :/[06:02:27] <bdha> Get the text installer from genunix.org.[06:02:28] <Mantis_Shrimp> Here goes - trying again with startx[06:02:34] <Mantis_Shrimp> Thanks bdha[06:02:35] *** swift has joined #opensolaris[06:03:32] *** lesterc has quit IRC[06:03:59] <sand_man> if downloads stop have way through an update, will it continue if i start over?[06:04:01] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[06:04:14] <jdoe> this is insane. rsync from remote machine to opensolaris is a steady 300KB/s (should be 2MB/s) rsync from any other machine on the lan to opensolaris is fast, rsync from remote host to any other machine is 2MB/s. rsync from remote machine to opensolaris (ufs ramdisk) is still 300KB/s, so it's not zfs or the disks. Swapped cable/switch port, no change. Installed opencsw openssh client and told rsync to use that, now it's steady around 700 but it's still inex[06:04:34] <jdoe> ... am I missing something? Is there some tcp tuning voodoo I was supposed to do?[06:06:15] <bdha> Is the interface negotiating properly?[06:06:17] *** mroconnor has joined #opensolaris[06:07:13] <jdoe> bdha: as near as I can tell. Both it and the switch think it's gigabit. Transfer speeds to other machines on the lan are what I'd expect them to be.[06:07:40] <jdoe> it's only non-lan traffic that seems to be slow, and only with the opensolaris machine.[06:07:40] <bdha> Shouldn't be any magic involved.[06:07:46] <jdoe> yeah I wouldn't think so.[06:10:03] *** derekv has quit IRC[06:10:26] *** derekv has joined #opensolaris[06:10:36] <jdoe> it's sitting behind a linux firewall, but I can't see that being the issue.[06:11:03] <jamesd_laptop> jdoe, is dedup enabled?[06:12:21] *** chilicuil has joined #opensolaris[06:13:58] <jdoe> jamesd_laptop: uhh... huh. Yeah, it is.[06:14:07] *** bklang has quit IRC[06:14:50] <jamesd_laptop> jdoe, dedup kills performance because it makes streaming io into random io becasue of the hash table(dedup data) lookups.[06:15:10] <jamesd_laptop> unless you have an ungodly amount of ram and/or l2arc[06:15:43] <jdoe> it's got 8 gigs in it, I'm not sure if that qualifies as "ungodly" anymore.[06:16:03] <jamesd_laptop> nope it doesn't if you have more than 1TB of data...[06:16:11] <jdoe> I do.[06:16:17] <jdoe> ... and hrm, dedup off doesn't seem to have helped.[06:16:58] *** Beket has joined #opensolaris[06:17:25] <jamesd_laptop> get brendan gregg's dtrace toolkit, and run iopattern to see what type of IO is going on.[06:17:51] *** Norrin has joined #opensolaris[06:17:55] <jdoe> turned off compression too since I ... totally forgot that was on there. No difference.[06:17:58] *** Garen_ is now known as Garen[06:18:22] <jamesd_laptop> jdoe, compression is usually a win... because cpu is cheap.. io is expensive.[06:18:31] <heldchen> are you sure its a disk problem problem? you said you tested with a ramdisk and also got slow results?[06:18:35] <jdoe> yes[06:18:39] *** Mantis_Shrimp is now known as JonathanYc[06:18:44] <jdoe> I was just about to say, I don't think it's a problem with zfs or the disks[06:18:54] <jdoe> scp/rsync to a ufs ramdisk is similarly slow.[06:19:05] <jdoe> rsync/scp from another machine on the lan is as fast as I'd expect it to be.[06:19:05] *** sahafeez has quit IRC[06:19:47] <heldchen> have you ipfilter running on the box?[06:20:07] <jdoe> nope. It's sitting behind a linux gateway, but there's no firewall on the solaris machine itself.[06:24:24] <heldchen> just for fun, did you try connecting to that machine through something else, like nfs or ftp?[06:25:20] <jdoe> neither are available, but let's see what wget things...[06:25:22] <jdoe> thinks[06:26:17] <jdoe> ... yeah, http is similarly limited.[06:26:33] <jdoe> ~700KB/s[06:27:03] <heldchen> what happens when you do 2 threads[06:27:12] <heldchen> or run two wgets at the same time?[06:27:19] <jamesd_laptop> are you sure that dedup is off?[06:28:07] <jdoe> heldchen: both limited to 700KB/s[06:28:11] <jdoe> jamesd_laptop: "data dedup off local"[06:28:44] <heldchen> 700k in total or 1.4MB?[06:28:49] <jdoe> 1.4[06:29:27] <heldchen> does your linux firewall do traffic shaping?[06:29:41] <jdoe> no[06:31:23] <heldchen> so its not the firewall, its not io, its not cpu...[06:31:40] <lattera> anyone know of any good tutorials on setting up a zone for serving dns?[06:33:19] <jdoe> heldchen: and that's why I've been banging my head against the wall ;)[06:34:21] <heldchen> understandable. and i'm sorry, i'm kinda out of ideas... and heading towards the bed.[06:34:23] <jamesd_laptop> lattera, pretty simple, create a zone.. netservices limit, configure bind.. enable dns ... be sure zone starts on reboot..[06:35:59] <jdoe> heldchen: it's cool, thanks for your help :)[06:36:07] <jdoe> (ditto to jamesd_laptop and bdha)[06:36:18] *** Beket has quit IRC[06:37:31] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[06:38:05] <lattera> that's awesome! why didn't I think of that?!?[06:38:11] <lattera> ...[06:41:38] <samc> hmmm .. ipseckey coredumps when I try to create an ipv6 link-local <-> ipv6 multicast SA :([06:48:25] *** Hedonista has joined #opensolaris[06:53:11] *** Shoggoth has joined #opensolaris[06:57:12] *** Zauberpony has joined #opensolaris[06:59:20] *** Zauberpo1y has quit IRC[07:00:01] *** Norrin has quit IRC[07:08:40] *** JonathanYc has quit IRC[07:10:26] *** lattera has quit IRC[07:13:10] *** dalibor has quit IRC[07:14:39] *** leito has quit IRC[07:15:17] *** lattera has joined #opensolaris[07:15:35] <lattera> got a dns zone set up[07:15:45] <lattera> nfs still isn't working :([07:17:14] *** ThothCrimson has joined #opensolaris[07:18:55] <lattera> anyone know of a way to debug nfs permission denied errors?[07:21:18] <jmcp> lattera: is that a non-global zone you're talking about?[07:21:30] <jmcp> and nfs client in the zone, or nfs server in the zone?[07:21:36] <lattera> no[07:21:43] <lattera> dns is in a non-global zone[07:21:56] <lattera> nfs is shared in the global zone[07:22:00] <jmcp> 'k[07:22:10] <jmcp> cos you know you can't run an nfs server in a non-gz[07:22:27] <lattera> http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=128026&tstart=0[07:22:33] <lattera> that's the thread I started on nfs-discuss[07:22:50] <lattera> it's looking more and more like a bug in nfs to me[07:23:01] <lattera> the client isn't authenticating my user[07:23:07] <lattera> it's just defaulting to "nobody"[07:23:53] <jmcp> do you have the client system listed in your server's /etc/hosts file?[07:23:58] <lattera> yup[07:24:00] <lattera> and it's in dns[07:26:05] <jmcp> ah, I see you're getting responses from tdh in that thread[07:26:08] <jmcp> he's Da Man you want[07:28:57] *** RoyK has quit IRC[07:29:53] <lattera> ya, he's been helpful, giving me ideas on stuff to try[07:30:46] *** derchris has quit IRC[07:30:52] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[07:30:58] <jmcp> he's nfs4 project[07:31:01] <jmcp> project lead[07:32:08] <lattera> nice[07:32:53] <lattera> maybe I should set up a b129 VM[07:32:57] <lattera> and test nfs with that[07:34:21] *** davenz has left #opensolaris[07:34:27] <lattera> when I do: `ls /net/192.168.2.6/tank/shares/shawn` on the server itself, it works[07:34:39] <lattera> but when I try it from another box (running b134), it doesn't[07:34:43] <lattera> seems really strange[07:36:44] *** sboda has joined #opensolaris[07:36:55] <sboda> hello[07:37:14] <sboda> I have a problem in storedge 3310[07:37:22] <sboda> can any one help me[07:37:52] <alanc> no way to guess without any hint as to what the problem is[07:39:29] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[07:40:52] <sboda> I have SUN Storedge 3310[07:41:05] <sboda> yesterday i observed that one of the disk got corrupted[07:41:12] <sboda> storage in RAID-5[07:41:13] *** lattera has quit IRC[07:41:31] <sboda> so I replaced that disk with new formatted disk[07:41:40] <jmcp> sboda: you should log a support call[07:42:08] <sboda> Actually what is my problem is in storage one of the disk got corrupted. Which is in RAID-5 so I replace with another disk. When i am typing format command it was showing the storage(5th disk in AVAILABLE DISK SELCECTION). When I am selecting 5 it was saying[07:42:24] <jmcp> sboda: >>>>> you should log a support call <<<<<[07:43:13] <sboda> Disk not labeled. Label it now?[07:43:18] <sboda> Here is my doubt is can I label it here. If I press 'y' is my date is available or not?????[07:43:40] <sboda> data[07:45:33] <sboda> any solution for this prob.[07:45:36] <sboda> plz help[07:46:02] <jmcp> for the _3rd_ time ::: LOG A SUPPORT CALL[07:46:18] *** lattera has joined #opensolaris[07:48:28] * taemun helps jmcp get his boot on[07:49:09] <jmcp> taemun: it sure is tempting[07:49:38] *** chendy has joined #opensolaris[07:50:52] *** pgr has joined #opensolaris[07:51:19] *** modify has quit IRC[07:52:44] *** hajma_ has quit IRC[07:53:32] <alanc> its been a very long time since I worked in support, but I swear standard procedure then was to provide a pretty good set of instructions when we shipped out replacement disks when a disk failed[07:54:41] <alanc> it takes more than just labeling a disk to restore your data[07:56:09] <alanc> but fortunately, I don't have to deal with that any more since our lab people deal with logging the support calls to replace failed disks and handling the replacements when they come in[07:57:00] <kohju> You know opensolaris 2010.0x will release in the first half year ?[07:57:13] <jmcp> sboda: and if you can't bring yourself to log a support call, then you should at least go and RTFM from docs.sun.com: http://search.sun.com/docs/index.jsp?qt=storedge+3310&simpleSubmit=Search&col=docs_en&locale=en[07:57:31] <jmcp> kohju: nobody here from Oracle or Sun will answer that question[07:57:46] <kohju> I heard Oracle say about it.[07:57:57] <kohju> Oracle said about it < correct?[07:58:02] <jmcp> people who know, and who are authorised to talk about it, do not hang out in this channel[07:58:05] <jmcp> talk to your sales rep[07:58:36] <alanc> I've heard rumors that people said they heard it at the Oracle welcome events, but I don't know that Oracle has made any official announcements[07:58:41] <kohju> here, http://www.zdnet.co.kr/ArticleView.asp?artice_id=20100409193224[07:58:47] <kohju> but I cannot read it.[07:58:59] <jmcp> kohju: if it's not on oracle.com, then it's not official[07:59:03] <kohju> I use google translater.[07:59:35] <Aria> Heh, yeah, zdnet has had rumors often[07:59:47] <lblume> kohju: Is somehow your life depending on this release that you have to pester this channel every day?[08:00:00] <alanc> and automated translations aren't always the most accurate[08:00:03] <kohju> No, but. this news is from oracle seminar.[08:00:09] <jmcp> kohju: haven't we told you this exact same message quite frequently?[08:00:31] <lblume> kohju: Maybe if you press your <shift> key very fast, it will make it come earlier? I heard it works for elevators.[08:01:07] <kohju> In Japan, Oracle and Sun has the silimar event and seminar at 21,April.[08:01:23] *** dunc has quit IRC[08:01:23] <alanc> more likely to get mail from steve.jobs at apple dot com saying "Yep. You caught us. That was an iPhone 4 my idiot developer left at a bar."[08:01:44] <kohju> I intend to ask the oracle about it.[08:01:50] <lblume> kohju: Great! And today is the 20th. So just shut up until you get there tomorrow, maybe?[08:01:53] <kohju> in that event.[08:01:54] <jmcp> and please *stop* asking here[08:01:57] <alanc> then you should have an answer tomorrow[08:01:59] <kohju> yes.[08:02:02] <kohju> tommorrow[08:02:08] <alanc> we'll be interested to here what they tell you[08:02:16] <jmcp> and to hear it, as well[08:02:18] <lblume> kohju: "yes", as in "yes I will shut the fuck up"?[08:02:20] <jmcp> or see it, since irc is visual[08:02:30] <alanc> jmcp: yes that one[08:02:33] * jmcp crosses fingers[08:02:44] <kohju> :)[08:03:01] * alanc searches for replacement fingers[08:03:29] <kohju> But, I think, this zdnet korea news is from similar seminar at Oracle Korea.[08:04:51] <madwizard> Coffee[08:05:27] <alanc> The google translate Korean->English conversion is pretty bad and very much gibberish[08:06:24] <alanc> "flash powerful enough to cause changes in the industrial sector is not much technology," said "two months after Sun and integrated flash Firewire Oracle 11g has developed an integrated technology," he said.[08:06:37] <kohju> And, I didn't ask it here :)[08:06:49] <alanc> flash firewire Oracle 11g![08:07:32] <oninoshiko> =o.0=[08:07:59] <kohju> lblume, no, "yes" means "tommorrow"[08:08:28] <lblume> kohju: Yours is a strange language.[08:08:40] <kohju> Sorry, my English is poor.[08:08:56] <alanc> "Oracle continues to support plans that will update the olsangbangijung." - I can neither confirm or deny any knowledge of the olsangbangijung[08:09:30] <alanc> okay, maybe I can confirm no knowledge of the olsangbangijung. I blame google translate[08:09:36] <richlowe> in the good old days, that'd be an acronym.[08:09:37] <lblume> alanc: Cme on, we all know the olsangbangijung is yet another plot to screw up with my fonts.[08:09:40] <richlowe> who knows, now.[08:09:46] <kohju> but, I intend to learn English more :) please teach me.[08:10:44] <lblume> kohju: Standard rates are 150RMB/hour, less if you can come over.[08:11:39] <alanc> lblume: oh, right, we're going to overprint random characters of your text with !'s and the characters from the I Ching Unicode range[08:12:01] <kohju> wow :)[08:12:01] <lblume> Oooohhhh, I love this range![08:12:42] *** gebi has joined #opensolaris[08:12:54] <alanc> the #xorg-devel channel topic has had for about a month now: "䷑ U+4DD1 HEXAGRAM FOR WORK ON THE DECAYED"[08:12:58] *** plompi has joined #opensolaris[08:13:23] <lblume> 哈哈！[08:13:40] <richlowe> that sound you here is everyone using irc in a mis-configured tty, hating you.[08:13:41] *** alexc has joined #opensolaris[08:13:42] <richlowe> uh, 'hear'[08:13:42] *** alexc has quit IRC[08:13:42] *** alexc has joined #opensolaris[08:13:50] *** plompi has left #opensolaris[08:14:24] <alanc> we've decided that X12 is too boring for the next rev of the window system, and we should replace the X with an obscure Unicode character that no one can agree how to pronounce[08:14:54] <alanc> just wait until you have to try to run ䷑org -configure from the console[08:15:07] <kohju> alanc, this site can tranlate about opensolaris paragraph ,http://translation.babylon.com/korean/to-english/[08:15:07] <lblume> alanc: You're making it easy. Why not choose one of the characters that didn't make it to unicode?[08:15:44] <Andys^> hahah[08:15:48] <lblume> People won't bother you if they can't type your email address :-D[08:16:32] <alanc> richlowe: at least pidgin on OpenSolaris has been fixed to not crash on characters not encoded properly for the right character set - used to be able to clear a ton of people from the internal ON developer IRC by just pasting one character into the channel[08:17:05] <richlowe> alanc: at least used to be you could hit upon a character that toggled xterm into the alternate font.[08:17:21] *** dover has quit IRC[08:17:26] <lblume> I thought xterm did utf-8 those days.[08:17:53] <alanc> but it still has all sorts of fun escape codes[08:17:58] <lblume> alanc: It's an osol-only fix, or part pidgin?[08:18:10] <lblume> part of pidgin?[08:18:22] <alanc> lblume: I think the fix was to upgrade to a newer upstream, but I don't remember for tsure[08:18:28] <alanc> or even for sure[08:18:32] *** tg has quit IRC[08:18:42] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[08:18:56] <lblume> I almost feel like trying.[08:19:01] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[08:21:17] *** sboda has quit IRC[08:22:32] *** lattera has quit IRC[08:22:52] <andersenep> man, i am stumped (again)[08:23:00] *** gebi has quit IRC[08:24:38] <lblume> alanc: Those Yi Jing hexagrams are awfully antialiased. Just saying.[08:24:39] *** vivid has quit IRC[08:25:02] *** lattera has joined #opensolaris[08:25:21] <andersenep> i wiped my rpool, reinstalled snv143, and imported my storage pool. now i can't connect to any of my cifs shares over the network. i can see them, but keep getting permission denied when i try to connect to them[08:25:50] *** vivid has joined #opensolaris[08:26:01] <alanc> reminds me I need to ask stefan if he's sick of maintaining the font software yet and ready to pass the curse on to it's next victim[08:27:08] *** vivid has quit IRC[08:27:21] <lblume> alanc: I'm honestly trying to find workarounds on my side, and improving fonts.conf. I think that basically, antialiasing should be off for non-latin chars below 20.[08:27:51] *** vivid has joined #opensolaris[08:28:41] *** nikolam_ has joined #opensolaris[08:28:42] *** wrapster has joined #opensolaris[08:28:51] <lblume> Also, sone font name aliasing arent right (like mixing serif/sans-serif chars), but that might have no solution if no proper font can be delivered as part of the OS.[08:29:01] <wrapster> seriously buggy 1i8n compilation.[08:29:06] <andersenep> guess it was the old ACLs[08:29:21] <wrapster> the build fails cribbing that "http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/t/ttf-sil-charis/ttf-sil-charis_4.106.orig.tar.gz" 404 file not found?[08:29:41] <richlowe> The build of what?[08:30:37] <alanc> lblume: oh, I guess we just do that for specific fonts now in /etc/fonts/conf.d/90-sun-prefer-bitmap.conf and for a bunch of different size ranges[08:31:00] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[08:31:32] *** nikolam has quit IRC[08:31:35] <lblume> Yes, only for specific fonts, but the problem is that the font names aliasing include *a lot* of fonts, some of them are not available.[08:31:43] <richlowe> alanc: isn't that one of the things folks grilled stefan for changing?[08:32:08] <lblume> So when you do have those from another source, the antialiasing becomes inconsistent as the font name aliasing prefers some chars from the other font.[08:32:33] <alanc> when they weren't too busy flaming him for the default bashrc changes in SFW 8-)[08:33:12] <alanc> most of the CJK font stuff though actually was configured by the Beijing & Tokyo G11n teams[08:33:39] <richlowe> You always blame either g11n or i18n folks though[08:34:56] *** Yu\2 has joined #opensolaris[08:36:09] <alanc> can't blame stefan for everything[08:36:11] <lblume> For example, I seriously wonder why the *default* name aliasing includes *Microsoft*'s CJK fonts.[08:36:33] <lblume> Yes, they're good. Yes they might deserve a reference. But default?[08:37:25] <alanc> they're not in the set of Microsoft/Ascender fonts we licensed and put in the extras repo? that would be the primary reason I could think of, unless we inherited from upstream[08:37:35] *** merzo has joined #opensolaris[08:37:50] *** DSProd has joined #opensolaris[08:38:02] *** raichoo has joined #opensolaris[08:38:28] * alanc remembers to include lawyers on the list of people to scapegoat for crappy fonts[08:38:47] <alanc> or at least for making it hard for us to include better fonts[08:39:10] <lattera> andersenep, I think I'm seeing the same issue with nfs[08:39:24] <lattera> I imported a pool and am getting permission denied when trying to share it with nfs[08:39:33] <lblume> alanc: AFAICT, they're not available from Oracle.[08:39:41] *** Beket has joined #opensolaris[08:39:51] <lattera> nfs doesn't work, but cifs does[08:40:01] <alanc> lblume: oh, then I don't know[08:40:12] <wrapster> richlowe: buiding g11n[08:41:00] <lblume> alanc: I just think the team tried to be comprehensive for all fonts commonly used in the CJK world, rather than those they actually have a control of.[08:41:10] *** DSProd has left #opensolaris[08:42:42] *** lattera has quit IRC[08:46:55] *** Aria has quit IRC[08:48:58] *** |AbsyntH| has joined #opensolaris[08:50:51] *** tg has quit IRC[08:51:08] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[08:52:27] <wrapster> guys now im getting these kind of errors.. http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/1869175[08:52:38] <wrapster> while trying to build g11n.[08:52:45] <wrapster> any idea what i might be missing?[08:53:19] *** moepmoep has quit IRC[08:55:51] <lewellyn> hm. interesting. my workstation has lost networking more than 1 hop away. i don't want to deal with this at this hour :([08:55:57] * lewellyn RDPs into a windows box[08:56:04] *** andersenep has quit IRC[08:56:39] <lblume> wrapster: -lcurses[08:57:34] <Macer> ugh[08:57:36] <wrapster> lblume: LDFLAGS= -lcurses[08:57:38] <wrapster> ?[08:57:44] <Macer> want my n900 to get here already[08:58:01] <Macer> i should check progress on arm opensolaris[08:58:05] <lewellyn> Macer: i want my touch pro 2 already[08:58:12] <Macer> heh[08:58:13] <lewellyn> there's been progress?[08:58:23] <lblume> wrapster: yes[08:58:26] <Macer> last i heard (a long time ago)[08:58:39] <Macer> they got busybox going on a beagleboard[08:58:51] *** RoyK has joined #opensolaris[08:59:36] <Macer> might have been more progress. i dont think i have checked for like a year[08:59:43] <wrapster> lblume: does not work[08:59:52] <lewellyn> Macer: as i said, there's been progress? ;)[08:59:56] <Macer> haha[08:59:59] <Macer> touche[09:00:34] <lblume> wrapster: what does not work?[09:00:42] <Macer> want to get the n900 and see how good maemo5 is[09:00:50] <wrapster> lblume: it still gives me the same error i posted.[09:01:08] <lblume> $ -lcurses[09:01:09] <lewellyn> Macer: the list says it's alive[09:01:14] <lblume> Here, here neither.[09:01:31] *** drzz has joined #opensolaris[09:01:36] <wrapster> lblume: what>[09:01:39] <Macer> oh im sure[09:01:54] <Macer> :)[09:01:57] <Macer> arm ftw[09:02:02] <lblume> I don't have the time to come look over your shoulder what you typed exactly.[09:02:12] <Macer> i wouldnt mind running a beagleboard opensolaris server[09:02:18] <Macer> with zfs cfs[09:02:24] <Macer> CFs[09:02:34] <lewellyn> Macer: looks like the last real "progress" noted on the list was in june[09:02:35] <wrapster> lblume: ive added -lcurses to the LDFLAGS in the corresponding makefile.[09:02:39] <wrapster> it still fails..[09:02:49] <Macer> oh? does it work? :)[09:03:02] <lewellyn> you can read the list archives as easily as anyone else ;)[09:03:08] <Macer> haha[09:03:12] <lblume> wrapster: copy the error[09:03:12] <Macer> im on my crappy g1[09:03:18] <wrapster> the actual log did not have -lcurses itself. so i added to the cmd that was being run in the terminal itself.. yet the same error..[09:03:21] <wrapster> lblume: one sec.[09:03:25] <Macer> if i open the browser 10 apps will kill themselves[09:03:25] * lewellyn has used mail.os.o from worse[09:03:35] <lewellyn> oh yeah. G1 is linux[09:03:36] <Macer> :)[09:03:54] <kohju> lewellyn, hi.[09:04:01] <Macer> if you consider android linux then yes[09:04:08] <lewellyn> winmo has the opposite problem: you have to go kill things yourself ;)[09:04:11] <Macer> ;)[09:04:20] <lewellyn> Macer: they're looking at actually merging with linus's tree[09:04:22] <lewellyn> kohju: hi[09:04:22] <Macer> i would rather do that[09:04:35] <Macer> they need a gnu base for android[09:04:45] <Macer> with apps[09:04:50] <wrapster> lblume: http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/1869191[09:04:54] <Macer> that you can run in the term[09:04:58] <wrapster> doesnt look like -lcurses issue[09:05:06] <wrapster> i dont see other flags tehre at all.[09:05:07] <lewellyn> Macer: i hated CE for years because of my expectation that closing an app would quit it. i've since started to see the benefits :)[09:05:19] <Macer> haha[09:05:30] <Macer> well. android seems to just kill things for you[09:05:40] <Macer> it's horrible[09:06:00] <lewellyn> even flash has a slight "lag time" while launching apps. if they're already in actual ram, though, they are far faster to "open"[09:06:00] <Macer> my n810 didnt do that[09:06:06] <Macer> and i am sure my n900 wont[09:06:21] <Macer> heh[09:06:22] <Macer> brb[09:06:47] * lewellyn goes to cook dinner[09:07:38] <lewellyn> and hahahaha. that's why i'm getting "Stop script?" at chrome: URLs. damned google docs was open in a tab. failtastic.[09:10:41] <wrapster> lblume: it was because of missing header wchar.h[09:11:00] <wrapster> it took me to the next set of errors at least.. after i added.[09:11:46] *** _madmax_ has quit IRC[09:12:18] *** kwinz3 has quit IRC[09:13:05] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[09:15:51] *** jthunder has quit IRC[09:19:11] *** kinkie has joined #opensolaris[09:21:32] *** nikolam_ has quit IRC[09:21:44] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[09:22:21] *** nikolam_ has joined #opensolaris[09:23:42] *** drzz has quit IRC[09:26:56] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[09:32:37] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[09:36:20] <wrapster> I have libX.so installed on the machine.. yet i get this error..[09:36:26] <wrapster> http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/1869215[09:39:42] *** houst0n1 is now known as houst0n[09:39:51] *** houst0n has joined #opensolaris[09:42:13] *** gerard13 has quit IRC[09:44:01] *** gebi has joined #opensolaris[09:45:17] *** brendang has quit IRC[09:46:22] *** brendang has joined #opensolaris[09:46:43] <lblume> ls -l /usr/openwin/lib/libX.so ?[09:55:39] *** KermitTheFragger has joined #opensolaris[09:58:33] <tomww> ls -l /usr/lib/libX.so[09:58:36] *** Error404NotFound has joined #opensolaris[09:59:17] *** phips has joined #opensolaris[10:01:43] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[10:02:11] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris[10:03:06] <madwizard> Coffee[10:03:17] <lewellyn> gah. i killed nwam and brought up network:physical and i still can't get off the lan. wtf.[10:03:27] * lewellyn is about to do the old windows reboot and pray approach[10:06:38] *** twisti has quit IRC[10:06:51] *** alexc has quit IRC[10:06:52] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[10:11:18] <wrapster> lblume: yes its present[10:11:35] <wrapster> oh.. libX.so is not present.[10:12:07] <devians> hey guys, if i run pfexec zpool export mypool and it just sits there hung until i escape it, what does that mean?[10:13:05] *** timsf has joined #opensolaris[10:13:18] <madwizard> Guys, any kernel wizards here?[10:13:52] <lewellyn> madwizard: you didn't share enough coffee. they fell asleep :)[10:14:12] <madwizard> Khm[10:14:14] <madwizard> http://pastebin.com/W9NaPKqn[10:14:32] <madwizard> I have some broken zone, probably based off snv_115 (within Belenix)[10:14:48] *** tsoome has quit IRC[10:15:08] <madwizard> Could anyone explain what "invalid ops vector for module" means?[10:17:07] <madwizard> I googled up some nexenta zones setup which mentions this error, but the guy goes on to claim nothing is broken because of this[10:17:21] <madwizard> And I experience quite big difficulties.[10:23:00] *** perlmongo has joined #opensolaris[10:23:17] *** darki has joined #opensolaris[10:24:11] *** Error404NotFound has quit IRC[10:25:03] <tomww> would it be possible that you did updates to the global zone and the non-global zone is still on old bits? Just and idea...[10:26:43] *** chilicuil has quit IRC[10:26:55] <madwizard> tomww: Very possible[10:27:21] <madwizard> tomww: I'm dissecting a zone, but I don't have access to global[10:27:30] <madwizard> And the history behind is rather vague[10:27:56] *** phips has quit IRC[10:28:08] <devians> hrm, zpool destroy, zpool export (either with -f) wont do anything :|[10:28:33] <devians> anyone have any ideas on how to troubleshoot this?[10:28:48] <devians> if i run the command it just hangs and nothing happens. not even any io[10:29:27] <lewellyn> madwizard: which module?[10:31:34] <lewellyn> http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/onnv/onnv-gate/usr/src/cmd/syseventd/daemons/syseventd/syseventd.c#1296 is where the error's happening.[10:31:54] <lewellyn> the next question is what and why, now that we have where :)[10:32:20] <Macer> haha[10:32:42] <Macer> devians: pfexec?[10:32:55] <Macer> or it hangs there also?[10:33:40] <Macer> i was scratching my head for 5 minutes one day before i remembered i forgot to run zpool destroy with pfexec[10:34:01] <houst0n> 5 minutes?![10:34:13] <Macer> ok. maybe longer :)[10:34:17] <Macer> haha[10:34:22] <houst0n> Damn..[10:34:25] <houst0n> :P[10:34:38] <Macer> well. it was just one of those days ;)[10:35:10] <devians> it failed in pfexec and in su[10:35:15] <Macer> and in my defense.. like 4 minutes were spent reading the man page until it popped into my head[10:35:40] <devians> i disabled the smb service and it finally started throwing 'in use' and worked with -f.[10:35:57] *** nikolam_ is now known as nikolam[10:36:00] <devians> now trying to remove the default share in sharemgr, since it points to an old broken path[10:37:49] <Macer> heh[10:37:52] <devians> for some reason sharemgr remove-share -s /oldpath/share default doesnt work :/[10:38:24] <devians> trying to kill this: default nfs=() * /storageold/media smb=() ""[10:38:58] <Macer> did you unmount it everywhere?[10:39:27] <devians> yeah, the pool is exported[10:40:07] <Macer> you cant just force destroy the pool?[10:40:23] <Macer> force destroy (tm)[10:40:33] <Macer> force destroy (c)[10:40:35] *** Error404NotFound has joined #opensolaris[10:40:44] <devians> er, im not sure how thats relevant? im trying to remove a bunk line from sharemgr[10:41:08] <Macer> oh. thought you were going to destroy the pool as well[10:41:28] <Macer> thought sharemgr would remove the share after the pool was destroued[10:41:32] <Macer> destroyed[10:42:02] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris[10:42:32] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[10:44:32] <devians> so did i. there seems to be a default share in there that i cant kill or modify for love nor money[10:44:48] <Macer> heh[10:45:04] <Macer> do you need to add the group to the pathname to be destroyed?[10:45:32] <devians> well yeah, the line i put above did that and it didnt work :/[10:46:00] <Macer> group/pool/path[10:46:01] <Macer> ?[10:46:18] <devians> pardon?[10:46:56] <Macer> sharemgr show[10:47:26] <Macer> zfs/pool/path/to/kill[10:48:41] <Macer> remove-share [-fnvh] -s sharepath group[10:48:42] <devians> yeah i get 2 things when i show the shares, i get a default group with a bad path, and a zfs group with a correct one. trying to remove the default group[10:48:51] <Macer> so it would be[10:49:00] <devians> however if i run remove share, it doesnt work.[10:49:09] <Macer> sharemgr remove-share path group[10:49:37] *** wrapster has quit IRC[10:49:46] <Macer> so....[10:50:00] <devians> http://pastebin.com/NyP1pavv[10:50:15] <noxis> how does one make cifs/smb passwordless ?[10:50:22] <Macer> you sure it is under the default grp? my exports are under zfs[10:50:32] <devians> noxis, you cant.[10:50:44] <noxis> you can in say linux with samba[10:50:46] <devians> Macer: see pastebin[10:51:05] <Macer> im on my phone now :/ sorry[10:51:37] <Macer> crappyandroid g1[10:51:44] *** ROKO__ has quit IRC[10:51:47] <devians> :/ well yeah, it kinda enunciates the issue.[10:52:01] <noxis> devians: you sure you cant?[10:52:52] <lewellyn> noxis: enable guest access[10:53:09] <lewellyn> also, you probably want something at least snv_134[10:53:32] *** kolle has joined #opensolaris[10:53:55] *** Error404NotFound has quit IRC[10:54:02] <Macer> hm[10:54:05] <Macer> that is odd[10:54:05] *** calumb has joined #opensolaris[10:54:10] <Macer> seems correct[10:54:58] <devians> Macer: im on 2009, im switching to dev now[10:55:10] <devians> hopefully its some kind of bug[10:55:15] *** drzz has joined #opensolaris[10:55:21] <Macer> unshare [-F fstype] [-p] [-o optionlist] sharepath[10:55:27] <Macer> try unshare?[10:56:06] <noxis> lewellyn: damn i am on snv_129[10:56:27] <lewellyn> noxis: the newer the better for cifs, as a rule :)[10:56:37] <lewellyn> 130 or 131 brought in some guest share fixes iirc[10:56:55] *** hnhn has joined #opensolaris[10:57:05] <noxis> heh ok[10:57:15] <noxis> what is the equiv of dist-upgrade then?[10:57:31] <noxis> i believe i am on /dev although i dont know how to check[10:57:38] *** kolle has left #opensolaris[10:57:47] <devians> lewellyn: im not super familiar with the osol dev setup, but how bleeding edge is dev? i get the feeling from the way its discussed that its 'stable' most of the time?[10:58:05] <lewellyn> smrt: explain dev repository[10:58:05] <smrt> To switch to the /dev repository (OpenSolaris development releases, see the IPS version in /topic): pfexec pkg set-publisher -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev opensolaris.org && pfexec pkg install SUNWipkg && pfexec pkg image-update -v # Then wait. You *must* read the release notes before starting out or you *will* be unhappy. See also: ips mirrors[10:58:08] <lewellyn> noxis: there you go :)[10:58:25] <lewellyn> devians: opensolaris, by nature, isn't a stable product yet :)[10:58:37] <noxis> yes? ;)[10:58:39] <noxis> yet*[10:58:53] <lewellyn> devians: 134 is the basis for the next release. it's worlds better than 111b (2009.06) from a year ago, by most accounts.[10:59:35] <lewellyn> noxis: well, since the plan is for opensolaris to form the basis of solaris next, one would assume it'll hit the level of stability we're all used to from solaris at some point[10:59:47] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[11:00:33] *** Error404NotFound has joined #opensolaris[11:00:37] <devians> where are the aforementioned release notes btw?[11:01:14] <lewellyn> see /topic[11:01:27] <noxis> pwned :p[11:02:08] *** Fullmoon has joined #opensolaris[11:02:21] <drzz> hey everybody - what is the recommended / accepted upgrade frequence - say for example I am still running b 127 on my production server (hosting low-traffic web servers) - any problems with that ?[11:06:15] *** Error404NotFound has quit IRC[11:07:03] *** Erwann has joined #opensolaris[11:07:42] *** purserj has quit IRC[11:08:05] *** purserj has joined #opensolaris[11:09:07] <noxis> lewellyn: how long does a update take roughly?[11:09:16] <lewellyn> "it depends"[11:09:22] <lewellyn> as smrt said, "wait" :)[11:09:26] <noxis> we got a data centre down and some servers need guest access to a zfs server[11:09:49] <noxis> but apparently guest access was broken from snv_124 or something[11:10:08] <lewellyn> try enabling guest access on whatever you're on, then have them connect as "WORKGROUP\guest"[11:10:25] <lewellyn> that works 90% of the time on the affected builds, ime[11:13:46] <drzz> noxis : on some occasions an update took four to five hours for me (slow AMD-based server) - if my memory is correct, it was around b 100[11:14:00] <noxis> well its not far behind on 129[11:14:03] <noxis> and is quite fast[11:14:04] <noxis> server[11:15:00] <lewellyn> jumping through 133 can be time-consuming[11:15:08] <noxis> hmm[11:15:09] <noxis> balls[11:15:46] <noxis> i may have to swap to samba[11:16:11] *** freitas has joined #opensolaris[11:16:34] *** freitas has left #opensolaris[11:16:52] *** LouisJB has joined #opensolaris[11:17:54] <noxis> smrt: explain ips mirrors[11:17:54] <smrt> At the time of the last factlet update, there is one IPS mirror located at pkg-na-2.opensolaris.org . The list of officially-sanctioned IPS mirrors is in the pkg(5) FAQ: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+pkg/FAQ[11:18:58] <lewellyn> the mirror seems to be down :P[11:19:39] <noxis> being slow downloading[11:19:48] <noxis> but then i am coming from the UK on a gig line[11:19:50] *** boos has quit IRC[11:20:06] *** boos has joined #opensolaris[11:20:34] <noxis> irritating watching it update stupid stuff like firefox and thunderbird... gnome[11:22:10] <drzz> noxis : I've got rid of all these packages (you are right : they cause updates to be fairly time-consuming)[11:22:38] <noxis> is it safe to just ctrl+c ?[11:22:44] <noxis> it just seems to be downloading the packges for now[11:23:52] <timsf> noxis there's a european mirror too[11:24:33] <noxis> o'rly?[11:24:44] <timsf> trying to find the url[11:25:06] <noxis> anyone got an updated shell script that rips out all the desktop packages?[11:25:48] <noxis> pkg-eu-2.opensolaris.org ?[11:25:57] <timsf> that's it.[11:27:01] <timsf> strictly speaking, it's a caching proxy rather than a mirror, per se - but it might help.[11:27:20] <madwizard> Coffee[11:30:24] <drzz> noxis : is that what you are thinking of : http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+isc/WebHome ?[11:30:57] <lewellyn> timsf: is that mirror announced anywhere?[11:31:11] <houst0n> announced?[11:31:12] <houst0n> hahaha[11:31:24] <timsf> There was some chatter on the pkg-discuss mailing list about it[11:31:27] <lewellyn> houst0n: pkg-na-2 was in the faq[11:32:05] <timsf> trying to see if there was an actual announcement[11:32:05] <houst0n> Hm fair enough[11:32:10] <houst0n> How is lewellyn this day?[11:32:33] <lewellyn> houst0n: hopefully the day will be over soon :P[11:32:47] * lewellyn needs to really start charging an hour per phone call when clients call[11:33:15] <houst0n> Ugh I hear that. I have a rather boring day of scripting today :([11:33:43] <houst0n> Anyone with a yacht or a private island wish to trade for 48 hours?[11:34:00] <timsf> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/pkg-discuss/2010-March/021883.html[11:34:00] <noxis> that eu mirror appears to be quicker[11:34:04] <noxis> maybe placebo[11:34:12] <lewellyn> timsf: if pkg-eu-2 will be "stable", based on your knowledge, would you be kind enough to replace smrt's knowledge? :)[11:34:22] <timsf> Sure[11:34:29] <lewellyn> pkg-na-2 is down for the count, it seems :([11:34:38] <timsf> I'll see if they've given me permissions to update the FAQ too[11:38:12] *** yalu has quit IRC[11:38:57] *** yarihm has quit IRC[11:40:15] *** yalu has joined #opensolaris[11:42:41] *** PatrickS has joined #opensolaris[11:44:32] <timsf> smrt: explain ips mirrors[11:44:32] <smrt> At the time of the last factlet update, there are two IPS mirrors located at pkg-na-2.opensolaris.org and pkg-eu-2.opensolaris.org . The list of officially-sanctioned IPS mirrors is in the pkg(5) FAQ: http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+pkg/FAQ[11:44:45] <timsf> I've got no permissions to update the faq though.[11:47:33] <mui> rr[11:47:44] <mui> moment I thought release was out when everybody was fuzzing about mirrors[11:47:55] <mui> then it got me. dedup bug is still there[11:49:23] <madwizard> Coffee[11:49:37] <noxis> anyone else get angry everytime they see a oracle logo now?[11:50:10] <madwizard> noxis: No, I glued a white paper to my monitor in the usual palce[11:50:35] *** ROKO__ has joined #opensolaris[11:50:48] <noxis> ever since i had to help deploy oracle e-business suite i have had a utter hatred for all things oracle[11:50:56] *** dunc has quit IRC[11:51:20] *** pablomh has joined #opensolaris[11:51:24] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris[11:53:19] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[11:53:37] <lewellyn> timsf: is na-2 still up?[11:53:50] *** raichoo has quit IRC[11:53:53] <lewellyn> i can't ping it from my irc box and i don't have external access atm from the desktop i'm at[11:55:00] *** Yu\2 has joined #opensolaris[11:55:39] <timsf> I'd heard rumblings of data center moves, but nothing concrete[11:55:54] <timsf> could be worth dropping a mail to pkg-discuss just to see?[11:56:12] *** raichoo has joined #opensolaris[11:56:55] <lewellyn> i'm done with email for monday now. and tuesday hasn't yet started. (my day starts in 2 hours)[11:57:41] <johannes> less chatting :-)[12:07:16] *** bitblt has joined #opensolaris[12:08:44] <sickness> ghgh[12:10:41] *** ma3x has quit IRC[12:11:35] *** chendy_ has joined #opensolaris[12:15:10] *** chendy has quit IRC[12:15:18] *** chendy_ is now known as chendy[12:17:12] *** plompi has joined #opensolaris[12:17:15] *** plompi has left #opensolaris[12:21:50] *** miamano has joined #opensolaris[12:22:40] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[12:24:27] *** Zplay has joined #opensolaris[12:27:15] <noxis> is there anyhting bad about using samba rather than cifs?[12:28:28] <Stric> acl support, lower performance (kernel vs userspace)[12:28:40] <noxis> will suite me for now in a pinch[12:29:02] <seanmcg> cifs has better zfs integration I thinks...[12:29:11] <noxis> yea i think it does[12:29:19] <noxis> but i still just specify the filesystem path to samba i assume[12:30:46] *** Fullmoon has quit IRC[12:32:39] *** chendy has quit IRC[12:34:46] *** phips has joined #opensolaris[12:38:21] *** hsp has quit IRC[12:38:29] *** Fullmoon has joined #opensolaris[12:41:31] <devians> woo, switched to dev just fine[12:41:42] *** ivo_ has joined #opensolaris[12:46:06] *** kwinz3 has joined #opensolaris[12:48:19] *** lateau_ has quit IRC[12:48:50] *** tosh has joined #opensolaris[12:49:40] *** moepmoep has joined #opensolaris[12:51:35] *** miamano has quit IRC[12:52:35] *** miamano has joined #opensolaris[13:01:49] *** twilling has joined #opensolaris[13:02:07] *** kwinz3 has quit IRC[13:05:00] <asyd> http://pastealacon.com/15693 anyone have an idea? I become crazy[13:05:56] <tsoome> simple, dont use sudo:P[13:06:34] <asyd> well, maybe. But that don't explain why I have differents results[13:07:01] <tsoome> which ldap serve you have?[13:07:07] <tsoome> server*[13:07:22] <asyd> opends[13:07:55] <tsoome> you may wanna dig ldap access logs, probably there is some kind of schema mismatch[13:08:08] <asyd> hmm but why it will work as root, on the same server?[13:08:13] <asyd> but let me check logs[13:08:29] <tsoome> i recall some comments about group membership management issues with one openldap based setup[13:09:06] <asyd> however since there is ldapclient which cache most of request[13:09:27] *** sergiusens has joined #opensolaris[13:09:30] <noxis> is it correct to assume CIFS and SAMBA cannot coexist on the same server?[13:10:09] <tsoome> noxis: its same service, you cant serve same service with 2 different implementations at the same time[13:10:18] <noxis> yea tiz what i figured[13:10:27] <noxis> but i am pretty tired right now so needed sanity check[13:11:05] <jbit> maybe you could have one running in a non-global zone with a different ip?[13:11:20] <noxis> yea i was gonna say i am sure that is possible[13:11:21] <jbit> but i have no idea if that qualifies as "the same server"[13:11:38] <noxis> but i dont need to add complication just yet[13:11:42] <tsoome> in non-global zone you can possibly run only samba[13:11:46] <noxis> i think samba fits in better with our inhouse app[13:11:57] <noxis> as it was designed around it originally[13:12:30] *** dalibor has quit IRC[13:12:46] <tsoome> well, depends what your app is needing, file access protocol is same, samba provides also printer support and some amount of domain control.[13:12:55] *** Zplay has quit IRC[13:13:15] <tsoome> kernel smb provides better integration with zfs (snapshot support for windows etc)[13:13:42] <tsoome> samba will share directory, kernel smb will share filesystem[13:13:51] <noxis> the control and configuration seems obsfucated with cifs in opensolaris[13:14:16] <noxis> but that i expect is more to do with my familiarity with a smb.conf[13:14:18] <noxis> than anything else[13:14:20] <tsoome> its different,[13:16:22] <jbit> i think it's easier on opensolaris[13:16:51] <noxis> its more dir sharing we are doing at the moment[13:17:02] <noxis> its only temporary as we are migrating to mogilefs for media delivery anyway[13:20:42] *** eleusis has quit IRC[13:23:26] *** kwinz3 has joined #opensolaris[13:26:29] *** eleusis has joined #opensolaris[13:28:04] *** gm152 has joined #opensolaris[13:29:59] *** nikolam has quit IRC[13:38:58] *** Mousk4r has joined #opensolaris[13:41:31] *** eleusis has quit IRC[13:43:38] *** eleusis has joined #opensolaris[13:43:41] *** eleusis has joined #opensolaris[13:45:32] *** yarihm has joined #opensolaris[13:46:37] <noxis> nroff: Out of temp file space[13:46:43] <noxis> cant access man smb.conf[13:48:45] <datadigger> noxis: Clean your /tmp (make sure files you remove are not in use) or grow swap[13:48:47] *** gm152 has quit IRC[13:50:03] <noxis> makes no difference[13:51:46] *** 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Can i mount this file or only 'zfs receive' ?[16:02:26] <houst0n> Try w/ lofiadm ?[16:02:36] <houst0n> lofiadm -a ./file.name[16:02:42] <houst0n> mount -F zfs /dev/lofi/X /foo[16:02:55] <houst0n> I think probably not, though[16:03:35] <datadigger> eXeC001er: You can only zfs receive it[16:04:15] <eXeC001er> houst0n: datadigger: thanks.[16:04:22] <datadigger> yw[16:06:21] <devians> Okona: welp, the vnics have ip's. no love[16:13:34] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[16:13:41] *** jmancuso has quit IRC[16:19:10] *** lattera has joined #opensolaris[16:19:30] *** wdp_ has joined #opensolaris[16:22:58] *** twisti has quit IRC[16:23:21] *** wdp has quit IRC[16:25:21] *** Shoggoth has quit IRC[16:25:52] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[16:26:34] <Okona> devians, obviously the don't you haven't assigned then[16:26:49] <Okona> s/then/them/g[16:26:59] <Okona> s/the/they/g[16:28:10] <Okona> devians: where should they get ips? you created an etherstub with two vnics. You did not create assign ips nor did you set up a dhcp or connect the etherstub to a dhcp[16:28:53] <Okona> .oO(hmm, too much coffee today)[16:29:18] <devians> i assigned them ips[16:29:51] <devians> its 1am, ive killed off all my vnics etc and reverted it so the main vm will run. i'll attack this again tomorrow.[16:35:14] <Okona> devians: what is your goal?[16:35:45] <devians> to run multiple virtual machines with bridged networking[16:35:54] *** Triskelios has quit IRC[16:38:06] <alanc> ah, I see my mail to opensolaris-jobs made it through the moderation queue while I was asleep[16:38:47] <devians> Okona: crashing out now, just pm me if you want to leave me any messages, stuff in channel will disappear into scrollback before i get back.[16:39:15] <Okona> ok see ya[16:40:51] *** dajhorn has joined #opensolaris[16:40:52] <trochej> coffee[16:41:34] *** DerSaidin has quit IRC[16:41:45] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[16:44:00] *** dalibor_ has joined #opensolaris[16:46:51] *** houst0n has quit IRC[16:47:03] *** dalibor has quit IRC[16:47:03] *** dalibor_ is now known as dalibor[16:49:56] *** pgr has quit IRC[16:51:01] <effnorwood> trochej: aye![16:53:30] *** RoyK has quit IRC[16:53:36] *** l7 has quit IRC[16:53:57] <trochej> :)[16:54:06] *** l7 has joined #opensolaris[16:56:55] *** raichoo has quit IRC[16:58:19] *** nitrile has joined #opensolaris[17:02:05] *** astra-x has joined #opensolaris[17:02:13] *** PrickelPit has joined #opensolaris[17:05:10] *** hunter has joined #opensolaris[17:08:17] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[17:08:23] *** ingenthr1 has quit IRC[17:11:29] *** e1kg has quit IRC[17:13:49] *** reflect has quit IRC[17:13:54] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris[17:14:01] *** yippi has quit IRC[17:14:57] *** DerSaidin has joined #opensolaris[17:14:58] *** DerSaidin has joined #opensolaris[17:19:15] *** TomJ has quit IRC[17:23:57] <eXeC001er> I have issue with spare.[17:24:15] <causality> chain it up and taunt it.[17:25:08] <eXeC001er> I have enabled autorplace=on for my pool, but if LUN i faulted or unavailable spare does not activate.[17:26:15] *** TomJ has joined #opensolaris[17:26:40] <|woody|> is the LUN marked as failed unavailable in zpool status?[17:27:07] <eXeC001er> |woody|: c2t0d0 UNAVAIL 0 78 0 experienced I/O failures[17:27:42] <eXeC001er> it is on b134.[17:27:50] <|woody|> pastbin the hole zpool status please[17:29:42] <eXeC001er> |woody|: http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/1869773[17:31:04] <|woody|> interresting[17:31:34] <|woody|> if autoreplace is on. file a bug.[17:31:56] <eXeC001er> |woody|: ok. thanks.[17:32:53] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[17:33:05] <|woody|> someone was asking the same thing yesterday too. so might be a bug[17:33:33] *** forquare has joined #opensolaris[17:34:23] <noxis> how do i merge move dirs? as in mv a folder called foo ontop of another folder called foo and have the contents merged?[17:35:41] <|woody|> ?? just mv whats inside foo to baa rm foo mv baa to foo[17:37:23] <noxis> i need to do a fuck ton and i was trying for a solution i can leave running[17:37:46] *** LouisJB has quit IRC[17:38:26] *** vraa has joined #opensolaris[17:38:44] <noxis> its around 1TB of data across 900k files[17:40:03] <Stric> you can do a merge-copy with rsync at least.[17:40:06] *** forquare has quit IRC[17:42:08] <noxis> ah of course[17:42:11] * noxis slaps forehead[17:42:13] <noxis> rsync[17:42:41] <noxis> hmm no wait - i wanted move not copy[17:42:42] <noxis> so its quicker[17:44:38] *** dec has quit IRC[17:45:41] *** perlmongo has quit IRC[17:46:00] *** jthunder has quit IRC[17:46:05] *** dec has joined #opensolaris[17:46:23] *** thevraa has joined #opensolaris[17:49:28] *** vraa has quit IRC[17:49:45] *** dalibor_ has joined #opensolaris[17:49:58] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[17:52:39] *** dalibor has quit IRC[17:52:40] *** dalibor_ is now known as dalibor[17:52:50] *** sndcrb has joined #opensolaris[17:54:57] *** Zplay has joined #opensolaris[17:55:01] <CIA-21> Jan Kryl <Jan.Kryl at Sun dot COM>: 6864918 S10 auto_direct takes 45 mins to remount after manually unmounted a directory vs. S8 instantly[17:57:28] *** dunc has quit IRC[17:57:54] *** n1c0b has joined #opensolaris[17:59:27] *** n1c0b has quit IRC[18:02:17] *** ziyourenxiang has quit IRC[18:02:40] *** thistle_ has quit IRC[18:03:40] *** hnhn has quit IRC[18:04:01] *** dalibor has quit IRC[18:08:07] *** thistle_ has joined #opensolaris[18:09:55] *** pangu has joined #opensolaris[18:10:42] *** n1c0b has joined #opensolaris[18:11:04] *** alanst has joined #opensolaris[18:11:21] *** lateau has joined #opensolaris[18:13:17] <CosmicDJ> hm... "Oracle is investing more in Solaris than Sun did prior to the acquisition, and will continue to contribute innovative technologies to OpenSolaris" -- http://developers.sun.ru/techdays2010/reports/OracleSolarisTrack/TD_STP_OracleSolarisFuture_Roberts.pdf[18:13:40] <CosmicDJ> I always thought all the dev happens in osol and is ported back to solaris[18:13:41] <sk0rd> it's repeated everywhere[18:14:03] <eXeC001er> I have pool (3 disks, raidz1). I made recabling for disks and now some of disks in pool not available (cannot open). bounce back is not possible. Can i recovery data from this pool?[18:14:03] <sk0rd> CosmicDJ: sorta, there's a lot of proprietary bits that arent' shared[18:15:04] *** leito has joined #opensolaris[18:15:38] <CosmicDJ> "Update focus: Packaging and installation" so IPS goes away? ;)[18:17:10] <alanc> CosmicDJ: most development happens in OpenSolaris first and some gets backported to Solaris 10[18:17:37] <alanc> the main exceptions being things that are specific to Solaris 10, like the old installer/upgrade system we no longer have in OpenSolaris/Nevada[18:17:44] <CosmicDJ> alanc: well the pdf says the opposite is true[18:18:13] * alanc is still waiting for it to load from russia[18:18:14] <CosmicDJ> or I just read it wrong[18:18:32] <CosmicDJ> yeah I guess that's the case[18:18:52] <ismell> lol slow russian servers[18:18:54] <alanc> CosmicDJ: I can only tell you what happens in reality, not in marketing PDF's[18:18:59] <CosmicDJ> anyway, they say next release "1st half CY2010"[18:19:00] <ismell> and now they are the only ones taht can take us into space....[18:19:24] <alanc> again, I can only explain reality, not marketing...[18:19:52] <ismell> what is oracle unbreakable linux ?[18:20:21] <alanc> Unbreakable Linux is the marketing/service program around Oracle Enterprise Linux, a distro derived from RHEL[18:20:42] <Beket> I once broke it, by trying to boot it :P[18:21:01] <ismell> lol[18:21:49] <alanc> CosmicDJ: okay it loaded, and I can't see anything in the PDF that mentions the OpenSolaris->Solaris 10 backport path - what page?[18:23:07] *** hajma has quit IRC[18:23:11] *** Openfree has quit IRC[18:23:17] *** |AbsyntH| has quit IRC[18:24:34] <CosmicDJ> the part I cited "Oracle is investing more in Solaris [...] and will continue to contribute innovative technologies to OpenSolaris"[18:24:43] *** bubbva has joined #opensolaris[18:25:10] <bdha> Trust in Allah, but tie up your camel.[18:27:32] <alanc> CosmicDJ: to both Oracle and Sun, there is a single engineering team that works on Solaris/OpenSolaris - OpenSolaris is just an open release of the source code to the development branch of Solaris, so that doesn't contradict or change anything[18:28:16] * alanc never transferred from Solaris Engineering to OpenSolaris Engineering, we just started releasing source code to opensolaris.org - same team, same job, just different way of doing it[18:29:26] *** comay has joined #opensolaris[18:29:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay[18:29:55] *** PrestonConnors has joined #opensolaris[18:30:25] <PrestonConnors> Hello, I am trying to troubleshoot an OpenSSH client to OpenSSH server problem. http://pastebin.com/5NeBvfhq . No firewalls are in between and these servers are directly connected via 10 gigabit Intel Corporation 82598EB 10-Gigabit AT CX4 Network Connection using the ixgbe drive. Any help would be appreciated! I know this is probably OpenSSH specific, but I thought someone may have ran into this issue here.[18:32:04] <lblume> What is the issue? Ther excerpt looks pretty normal to me.[18:32:06] <CosmicDJ> PrestonConnors: what issue?[18:32:31] <PrestonConnors> Sorry, after line 16 ssh does no further communications.[18:32:34] *** perlmongo has joined #opensolaris[18:33:03] <jamesd_laptop> PrestonConnors, does it exit or hang for a period of time?[18:33:16] <PrestonConnors> jamesd_laptop: It hangs for > 5 minutes.[18:33:31] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[18:33:36] *** RoyK has joined #opensolaris[18:34:21] <lblume> You were using -vvv ?[18:34:47] <PrestonConnors> lblume: Yes.[18:35:21] <PrestonConnors> Weird, so both servers have two types of network interfaces. One is Intel gigabit and the other is Supermicro 10-Gigabit.[18:35:58] <PrestonConnors> When ssh traffic is going across the 10gigabit network the ssh session hangs as in my pastebin; across the 1gigabit network I am able to connect.[18:36:10] <PrestonConnors> No firewall rules or switch acls (layer 2 simple switches)....[18:36:32] <lblume> It doesn't seem very talkative for -vvv, no debug3 message.[18:36:48] <PrestonConnors> lblume: I agree; I even tried -vvvvvv for shits and giggles... same thing[18:37:14] <lblume> what are the client and server running?[18:37:23] <PrestonConnors> lblume: I get debug3 messages when connecting across the gigabit network (vs. 10gigabit)[18:37:50] <PrestonConnors> lblume: Ubuntu client and opensolaris snv_134 server[18:37:55] <PrestonConnors> Ubuntu 9.10 amd64[18:38:30] <jamesd_laptop> PrestonConnors, you may want to snoop the network and see why its timing out... or enable debug on the server to see why its refusing to answer[18:38:40] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[18:38:43] <PrestonConnors> jamesd_laptop: Yes, I think that is the next step.[18:38:49] <lblume> Yup, snoop on both sides to check which one stops sending.[18:39:11] *** raichoo has joined #opensolaris[18:39:11] <ArcAngel> ßa[18:39:18] <lblume> Might be some 10gb specific thing like frame size, I'm not familiar with it.[18:39:24] <PrestonConnors> it is not the end of the world; it is only simple ssh commands; running over a gigabit link will not hurt it..[18:39:48] <PrestonConnors> lblume: Yes, it worked at MTU1500 but when i set both to MTU9000 it failed (I remember this now....)[18:40:08] *** hunter has quit IRC[18:40:10] <lblume> Yes, but it might be just one symptoms of an underlying net issue, I'd also try to understand :-)[18:40:12] <PrestonConnors> but iSCSI traffic/other traffic is working fine over mtu9000 over 10gigabit[18:40:51] <PrestonConnors> lblume: Yes :) you are right.[18:41:25] <lblume> Oh then, snooping is definitely in order, I'd say. And also iscsi, to check if it is really using 9K frames.[18:41:55] <PrestonConnors> Good point. I will do some snooping.[18:41:56] <lblume> You can also use ping and increase the packet size.[18:42:00] <PrestonConnors> true[18:43:31] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[18:47:40] *** phil_ has joined #opensolaris[18:48:44] *** Mousk4r has quit IRC[18:50:25] <lattera> yay, my NFS problem has been solved[18:50:40] <lattera> apparently, the "nobody" account needs read access to the nfs share[18:51:23] <lattera> because the mount authenticates as UID 0 and server-side mapping translates that to the "nobody" account[18:52:38] *** psychicist has joined #opensolaris[18:53:18] *** omry|work has quit IRC[19:00:28] <jamesd_laptop> lattera, at with nfsv3 its best to make uid's match from system to system...[19:00:35] <lattera> yup, they do[19:00:56] <lattera> it's just that the mount happens as root since root perms are needed to mount[19:01:07] <lattera> so autofs initially authenticates against UID 0[19:01:27] <lattera> which opensolaris's nfs server maps as "nobody"[19:02:12] *** datadigger has quit IRC[19:02:15] <jamesd_laptop> all good nfs servers do that... i guess i have never ran into that because i usually keep permissions at 755[19:02:35] *** cudgel has left #opensolaris[19:02:35] <lattera> ya[19:02:46] <lattera> I just have multiple users, and I don't want them to see my share[19:03:27] <CosmicDJ> well anyone with root access can mount nfs shares (as long as you don't use kerberos)[19:03:33] <CosmicDJ> or ipsec..[19:04:04] <seanmcg> or not allow root to mount nfs..[19:04:07] <lattera> root can only mount nfs shares root has server-side perms to[19:04:31] *** KermitTheFragger has quit IRC[19:05:15] <CosmicDJ> lattera: and they look like? could give an example for your "server-side perms"?[19:05:23] <lattera> http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=475537[19:05:41] <lattera> the perms are in that thread[19:06:53] *** nitrile has quit IRC[19:07:01] <CosmicDJ> where? I only see "zfs/tank/shares/shawn nfs=() smb=() nfs:sys=(rw="*")"[19:07:21] <lattera> take a look at the ZFS ACLs[19:07:24] *** nitrile has joined #opensolaris[19:07:55] *** datadigger has joined #opensolaris[19:08:25] <CosmicDJ> no thanks ;)[19:08:39] *** mttr has joined #opensolaris[19:09:12] *** Mousk4r has joined #opensolaris[19:09:17] <CosmicDJ> "Access Control Lists, or ACL's, can also often abbreviated as PITA"[19:09:27] <trochej> :)[19:09:36] <CosmicDJ> http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=738[19:09:43] <trochej> CosmicDJ man chmod[19:09:53] <trochej> but not gnu one[19:10:34] *** omry_ has joined #opensolaris[19:11:35] *** omry has quit IRC[19:13:46] <lattera> I heard mention that NFS can't be served in a non-global zone[19:13:50] <lattera> that true?[19:14:51] *** merzo has quit IRC[19:14:55] *** PrestonConnors has left #opensolaris[19:15:01] *** synegy34 has joined #opensolaris[19:15:07] <CosmicDJ> last time I read about that, yes they said it's not possible (yet?!) to (ab)use a zone for nfs serving[19:15:41] <jamesd_laptop> you probably need an independent netstack for the zone... but still not sure its supported yet.[19:16:32] <lattera> independent netstack? can't you get that with crossbow+zone?[19:17:26] <lattera> http://blogs.sun.com/observatory/entry/zones_and_crossbow1[19:17:34] <lattera> the zone will have full control over the vnic[19:18:57] <comay> lattera non-global zones cannot at the current time export nfs shares (unless you compile a user-land NFS server)[19:19:23] *** lateau has quit IRC[19:19:24] *** dajune_ has joined #opensolaris[19:19:36] <lattera> there a reason for that?[19:19:57] *** twisti has quit IRC[19:19:58] <lattera> I'm just trying to understand why... I have all my other services delegated to zones[19:20:51] *** dajune has quit IRC[19:20:54] <comay> that particular part of the kernel (nfs server) hasn't been virtualized (in the same way other parts like nfs client has)[19:21:09] <lattera> ah[19:21:27] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[19:22:35] <lattera> well, now that I got nfs and vlc working, it's time to work on openvpn[19:24:04] <gosx> what svc should i be disabling if i don't want to run an X desktop at all[19:24:06] <gosx> ?[19:24:47] <gosx> this is a server box, don't need the GUI running at all[19:24:48] <lattera> gdm[19:25:24] <gosx> so if i svcadm disable gdm, all other X based stuff should just gracefully not start, correct?[19:25:35] <gosx> thx[19:25:35] *** omry_ has quit IRC[19:25:45] <lattera> right[19:26:14] <alanc> gdm is responsible for starting the X server, so if gdm doesn't start, nothing should be starting X[19:27:07] <seanmcg> unless your opensolaris is old enough to have cde service as default instead of gdm[19:27:26] *** omry_ has joined #opensolaris[19:27:38] <seanmcg> gosx, what version of opensolaris you using ?[19:28:15] <gosx> b130 through b134 on a variety of boxen[19:28:26] <gosx> the svcadm worked fine on gdm, thx all[19:28:45] *** fleers has joined #opensolaris[19:29:02] *** randw has joined #opensolaris[19:30:18] *** deet has joined #opensolaris[19:30:31] <alanc> seanmcg: if it has CDE service, we call it "SXCE", not OpenSolaris 8-)[19:30:50] *** derchris has quit IRC[19:30:55] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[19:31:26] *** calumb has quit IRC[19:31:27] <lattera> heh, I read that as "not OpenSolaris 8"[19:31:45] <lattera> took me a few seconds to realize that was a smiley[19:31:54] *** stewart has quit IRC[19:32:42] <seanmcg> lattera, alanc can be confusing at times :) (ducks)[19:32:56] *** PrickelPit has quit IRC[19:33:58] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[19:34:29] *** afrasi has quit IRC[19:34:39] *** deet has quit IRC[19:35:08] <gosx> ok interesting... disabled gdm, and my mysterious network usage disappeared[19:35:38] <gosx> but nobody was logged in[19:36:44] *** hunter has joined #opensolaris[19:38:04] *** whiteyOS has joined #opensolaris[19:38:26] * CosmicDJ hums the x-files theme[19:38:26] *** nitrile has quit IRC[19:39:25] *** lyarick has joined #opensolaris[19:40:38] <gosx> yea, it's odd[19:40:57] <gosx> network graph had shown 4 Mbit/s up and down almost symmetric when logged in[19:41:10] <gosx> 0.35 load avg[19:41:14] <Stric> talking to what?[19:41:17] <Stric> (netstat -an)[19:41:18] <gosx> not sure[19:41:24] <CosmicDJ> home dir on nfs?[19:41:34] <gosx> we don't use NFS[19:41:36] <gosx> CIFS only[19:41:46] <Stric> same same[19:41:48] <gosx> but iostat on the CIFS pools were basically 0[19:42:05] <Stric> when investigating network traffic, you look at network traffic and not disk io[19:42:29] <Stric> netstat, snoop[19:42:33] <jamesd_laptop> gosx, ZFS caches very intelligently... need to use fsstat zfs 1 to see what is really happening man fsstat is interesting and should be required reading[19:42:42] <gosx> thx[19:43:26] *** omry_ has quit IRC[19:44:11] <gosx> fsstat zfs 1 shows me i should be embarassed how underutilized our hardware is[19:45:04] <gosx> though it's tough to buy a much cheaper modern box these days[19:45:11] *** omry_ has joined #opensolaris[19:50:40] *** omry__ has joined #opensolaris[19:52:09] *** omry_ has quit IRC[19:53:29] *** nollan has quit IRC[19:54:15] *** omry__ has quit IRC[19:54:42] *** omry has joined #opensolaris[19:55:05] <CIA-21> Keerthi Kondaka <Keerthi.Kondaka at Sun dot COM>: 4045677 *ipcrm* ipcrm breaks for keys greater than 0x7fffffff[19:56:12] *** omry has quit IRC[19:56:40] <Stric> nice to see 13 year old bug reports (trivial ones too) fixed..[19:57:37] *** omry_ has joined #opensolaris[19:58:21] *** avansc|mac has joined #opensolaris[19:58:47] *** Bateau has quit IRC[20:00:23] <avansc|mac> hai, thanks in advance for any help, i recently decided to give opensolaris a try, but im having trouble getting the liveCD to boot, ive burnt a few, and its the same result every time. I just get dumped to a grub> prompt. Ive tried to research the issue but have not found any hits. im not sure how to start the installation from grub. Thanks again.[20:00:40] *** ingenthr1 has joined #opensolaris[20:01:30] *** jason1 has joined #opensolaris[20:01:31] *** fr4g--- has quit IRC[20:02:23] <jason1> can someone help me find which firmware I am currently running?[20:03:17] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[20:03:22] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[20:06:50] <whiteyOS> anyone heard whether l2tp has been implemented yet, or if it will be?[20:07:07] *** mttr has quit IRC[20:08:05] *** omry_ has quit IRC[20:08:45] *** nollan has joined #opensolaris[20:09:22] <tomww> I would say thrid party only. ipsec would be available or parts of openvpn if you compile it on your own.[20:09:37] *** jason1 has quit IRC[20:11:28] *** bklang has joined #opensolaris[20:12:08] <whiteyOS> tomww: thanks, thats what I suspected. I've used openvpn before. I'll make a go of packaging that for our farm[20:14:26] <whiteyOS> still no dev resources for l2tp either in sppptun or cleraview huh?[20:16:22] *** avansc|mac has left #opensolaris[20:16:47] <whiteyOS> or rather, clearview[20:18:54] *** fOB has joined #opensolaris[20:19:27] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[20:19:46] *** fOB has quit IRC[20:20:12] *** fOB has joined #opensolaris[20:22:30] *** lattera has quit IRC[20:26:02] *** astra-x has quit IRC[20:28:43] *** madwizard has quit IRC[20:30:10] *** lattera has joined #opensolaris[20:34:20] <JeremyK> so, with regard to 2010.03 and /dev ... is what's currently in /dev 'older' than what 2010.03 will be? I am getting anxious to upgrade some of my machines which have been misbehaving a bit but I don't want to end up with having to run all of my stuff on /dev because of some package incompatibility or zfs version change or whatever[20:35:31] *** timsf has quit IRC[20:35:44] <jamesd_laptop> JeremyK, most likey a few bits from b137 and perhaps beyond will make it int to 2010.03 if the bug being fixed is bad enough[20:35:47] <Beket> JeremyK, re zfs/zpool version: they don't automatically upgrade via IPS[20:35:47] <tsoome> then dont upgrade pools/zfs[20:35:59] <Beket> you have to actually upgrade them by invoking zfs related commands[20:36:31] <JeremyK> Beket: right, but any new filesystems created will be the new version, and I need to be able to move them between machines[20:36:49] *** xapiens has joined #opensolaris[20:36:57] <JeremyK> for the few machines which I'll be upgrading pre-release that's fine, but once the release is out I want to standardize on that across the board[20:39:49] <Stric> IMO, something like debian/ubuntu uses should be adopted.. that you have 'stable', 'unstable' and 'testing' (which matches /release, /dev and nothing in osol) .. which are actually just symlinks to whatever codenames they represent right now..[20:40:43] <Stric> like in debian currently, "lenny" is the stable one.. so both "lenny" and "stable" refers to the same one.. but if I keep it at "lenny" and something new is released, I will stay.. just like if I have it at "stable" and something new comes, then I'll get the new stable..[20:41:08] <jthunder> I[20:41:08] <jthunder> '[20:41:19] <Stric> which is especially useful right before a release.. so I can say "I want the stuff that's about to be released, but stay when it has been released"[20:41:38] <jbk> haha a friend just updated to b134[20:41:46] <jbk> 'Whoever picked this new login screen should be shot'[20:41:58] <JeremyK> new login screen?[20:42:17] <jbk> was on 2009.10, updated to b134[20:42:39] <Stric> JeremyK: new gdm, which not everyone likes[20:42:51] <jthunder> m having a problem with system-system-log: http://pastebin.org/162627 It fails to start with a dumped core. Anyone have any ideas?[20:43:07] *** Odin- has quit IRC[20:43:10] <JeremyK> ahh, that's the first thing I disable on my new machines :P[20:43:31] <jbk> is there an actual core file?[20:44:04] <JeremyK> that reminds me, I need to set up that crashwatcher dtrace stuff[20:44:16] <JeremyK> I've got an unhappy rsync process that I can't pin down[20:44:39] *** deet has joined #opensolaris[20:45:00] <jthunder> jbk - where would I find it?[20:45:14] <jbk> probably /[20:45:40] <jthunder> ok[20:46:03] <jthunder> yes there is[20:46:10] <jbk> run pstack on it[20:46:22] *** macousi has quit IRC[20:46:42] <jthunder> ok[20:47:01] <jbk> pastebin the output[20:47:04] *** ampex_ has quit IRC[20:47:22] <jthunder> k[20:47:48] <jthunder> pastebin updated[20:48:41] *** dalibor has quit IRC[20:49:53] *** Mdx4 has joined #opensolaris[20:50:39] *** twilling has quit IRC[20:50:41] <jbk> it didn't generate a new one?[20:51:13] *** jonshea has quit IRC[20:51:23] <jthunder> that is the most recent one[20:51:34] *** jpd1234 has joined #opensolaris[20:52:35] <jthunder> the time matches the svcs message regarding syslogd stopping[20:53:06] *** wdp_aao has joined #opensolaris[20:53:09] <jthunder> the reason svcs gives is "restarting too quickly"[20:53:31] *** p3rror has quit IRC[20:53:37] *** ozux has quit IRC[20:53:45] *** InTheWings has joined #opensolaris[20:53:55] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[20:53:56] <lewellyn> jthunder: and the log file referred to by svcs wasn't helpful?[20:54:12] * lewellyn is just popping in for a moment and didn't see where this all started[20:54:19] <jthunder> no worries[20:54:37] <jthunder> here is the pastebin, the log file and the pstack for the core dump[20:54:46] <jbk> run pstack on the core file, and pastebin the output of pstack[20:54:51] <jthunder> http://pastebin.org/162627[20:54:59] * lewellyn wonders if pastebin will open in w3m[20:55:04] <jthunder> that's what I did[20:55:15] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[20:55:16] <jthunder> I just appended it to the bottom of the message[20:55:25] <eXeC001er> i have 3 LUN - parts of RAIDZ1. pool on these LUNs not destroyed. Can i recovery data from this pool ?[20:55:26] <jbk> it's now shoing up here[20:55:48] <jthunder> now or not?[20:55:48] <lewellyn> nope. guess i can't load the paste. :P[20:55:56] <jthunder> hold on[20:55:59] <jbk> err not[20:56:08] <jthunder> http://pastebin.org/162636[20:56:11] <jthunder> sorry[20:56:15] <jthunder> it updated the URL[20:56:21] <jthunder> I copied the old one :P[20:57:19] <lewellyn> hm.[20:57:30] *** alech has joined #opensolaris[20:57:35] <jbk> does /etc/hosts contain an entry with the hostname of the system?[20:57:57] <darki> you must have this entry[20:58:04] *** sipior has quit IRC[20:58:09] <jthunder> let me check[20:58:35] <darki> i have read it is a "must have" under osol[20:58:35] *** eXeC001er has quit IRC[20:58:40] <lewellyn> yeah. that lwp 13 looks suspicious[20:59:07] <jthunder> because of the hostname_lookup?[20:59:12] <lewellyn> yeah[21:00:02] <jthunder> in the /etc/hosts file the first line is "::1 CoreOpenSolaris CoreOpenSolaris.local localhost loghost"[21:00:20] <jthunder> when I type "hostname" it returns CoreOpenSolaris[21:00:27] *** Mousk4r has quit IRC[21:00:31] <lewellyn> how about for 127.0.0.1?[21:00:57] *** fOB has quit IRC[21:01:09] <jthunder> yup 127.0.0.1 CoreOpenSolaris CoreOpenSolaris.local localhost loghost[21:01:26] <effnorwood> my first line is always just ::1 localhost[21:01:35] <darki> this is ipv7[21:01:38] <darki> 6[21:01:38] <jthunder> nope[21:01:39] <lewellyn> effnorwood: it depends on your machine setup[21:01:48] <lewellyn> darki: we know. thanks.[21:01:49] <effnorwood> lewellyn: sure of course[21:02:31] <effnorwood> the hosts file is near and dear to my heart[21:02:35] <lewellyn> jthunder: that blew my suspicion out of the water. hopefully jbk has more ideas. i gotta get ready to run. i'm a couple hours behind today.[21:02:49] <lewellyn> effnorwood: i prefer working dns ;)[21:02:50] <jthunder> no worries thanks![21:03:14] <lewellyn> jthunder: syslog is one of the few things i've yet to try over ipv6 :)[21:03:26] <jbk> try removing loghost from the ::1 line[21:03:28] <effnorwood> lewellyn: nice job leaving your iphone prototype in RWC :)[21:03:39] *** jp- has quit IRC[21:03:40] *** Zplay has quit IRC[21:03:52] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[21:04:03] <lewellyn> effnorwood: huh?[21:04:04] <FastJack> it was the german beer's fault! ;)[21:04:14] <effnorwood> lewellyn: kidding[21:04:22] *** madwizard has joined #opensolaris[21:04:24] <lewellyn> it was lost on me[21:04:32] * lewellyn hands the madwizard some coffee[21:04:53] <madwizard> thanx[21:04:59] <effnorwood> lewellyn: http://gizmodo.com/5520164/this-is-apples-next-iphone[21:05:11] <effnorwood> filled with cloak and dagger and mystery[21:05:18] <lewellyn> effnorwood: gizmodo doesn't tend to load right in w3m :([21:05:20] <FastJack> and german beer :)[21:05:57] <effnorwood> lewellyn: just search iphone prototype for all the news[21:06:17] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[21:06:27] <jbk> gizmodo is a bunch of pricks anyway..[21:06:36] <FastJack> apple engineer goes to a bar, orders lots of german beer, forgets his iphone 4g prototype.[21:06:49] <FastJack> phone shows up on gizmodo[21:07:05] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[21:07:05] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[21:07:24] <madwizard> Coffee[21:07:25] <FastJack> it's zee germans' fault[21:07:38] <FastJack> ;)[21:07:57] <madwizard> Hehehe[21:08:09] <jthunder> syslog still dying[21:08:18] *** Erwann has quit IRC[21:10:05] <jthunder> same pstack messages[21:10:12] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[21:10:29] <jthunder> this started happening after upgrading to IPS 134[21:10:55] <jbk> hmm.. not sure then[21:11:33] <jthunder> crap[21:11:57] <jthunder> is there anyway to debug the service when it starts[21:12:01] <jthunder> using dtrace?[21:12:52] <Stric> jthunder: dtruss -n syslogd[21:14:10] <jbk> hmm.. wonder if there's any ctf info[21:14:59] *** jthunder has quit IRC[21:19:58] *** ahe has joined #opensolaris[21:21:33] *** m4rku5 has joined #opensolaris[21:22:26] *** phips has quit IRC[21:24:17] *** boyd_ has joined #opensolaris[21:27:18] *** n1c0b has quit IRC[21:27:20] *** boyd has quit IRC[21:27:44] *** phips has joined #opensolaris[21:27:45] *** nollan has quit IRC[21:29:09] *** ArcAngel has quit IRC[21:29:31] *** rcsheets` has quit IRC[21:29:35] *** hajma has quit IRC[21:29:54] *** ArcAngel has joined #opensolaris[21:31:13] *** tg has quit IRC[21:31:14] *** twisti has quit IRC[21:32:10] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[21:32:14] *** nollan has joined #opensolaris[21:32:52] *** nollan_ has joined #opensolaris[21:33:00] *** nollan_ has quit IRC[21:33:30] *** ampex has joined #opensolaris[21:36:24] *** randw has quit IRC[21:36:28] *** randw has joined #opensolaris[21:39:50] *** hunter has quit IRC[21:41:07] *** heldchen has quit IRC[21:41:40] *** jonshea has joined #opensolaris[21:43:14] *** ampex has quit IRC[21:43:50] *** Odin- has quit IRC[21:44:43] *** dalibor has quit IRC[21:44:55] *** ampex has joined #opensolaris[21:49:05] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[21:51:48] <effnorwood> what can i search for in order to have my opensolaris boxes send syslogs to a central syslog collector?[21:51:57] <nikolam> bah. I cant see tasks in Lightning extension for Thunderbird 3/osol x86. Argh[21:52:30] <Stric> effnorwood: man syslog.conf and look for 'remote host'[21:52:39] <effnorwood> Stric: thanks![21:53:39] *** philsnow has joined #opensolaris[21:53:47] <duckinator> hi[21:53:51] <Stric> same as most other syslogds[21:55:05] <CIA-21> Janice Chang <Janice.Chang at Sun dot COM>: PSARC 2010/048 zfs-based ndmpd backup, 6801803 Use of ZFS to optimize NDMP performance, 6801805 NDMP Backup and restore COMSTAR zVOL at the block level[21:58:31] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[22:01:31] *** heldchen has joined #opensolaris[22:03:42] *** boyd has joined #opensolaris[22:03:57] *** lattera_ has joined #opensolaris[22:04:51] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[22:06:04] *** pdlnhrd has joined #opensolaris[22:07:01] *** boyd_ has quit IRC[22:07:04] <pdlnhrd> I just patched firmware and after doing after everything was done I entered resetsc as the documentation request. my root password and username does not work? What can I do?[22:08:29] *** bklang has quit IRC[22:08:46] <tomww> use the default username/password?[22:09:42] *** bklang has joined #opensolaris[22:10:40] <pdlnhrd> and it is not the root user[22:10:47] <pdlnhrd> it is admin[22:12:45] *** alanst has quit IRC[22:13:57] *** pdlnhrd has left #opensolaris[22:14:02] *** alanst has joined #opensolaris[22:17:18] *** phil_ has quit IRC[22:18:22] *** radsy has joined #opensolaris[22:19:09] *** darrenb has quit IRC[22:21:50] <CosmicDJ> anyone knows if solaris' nfs server is async by default?[22:21:53] *** darrenb has joined #opensolaris[22:23:10] <bdha> Isn't that a mount option?[22:23:34] <CosmicDJ> at least on linux you can put (a)sync in /etc/exports[22:23:44] <bdha> huh.[22:24:36] <alanc> presumably that just affects writes to disk, not the entire protocol[22:25:01] <alanc> pretty sure Solaris defaults to the requirements of the NFS standard as originally defined by Sun and updated by the IETF[22:25:20] *** wdp_aao has quit IRC[22:25:29] <tomww> CosmicDJ: solaris always follows the rule: integrity of the data first, so NFS exports on Solaris are written on stable storagen, then the result is replied to the client[22:25:57] <CosmicDJ> yeah that's what I thought, too[22:26:23] <tomww> same for ZFS, but on request there has been added a switch to enable the more dangerous mode reply to the client before written to stable storage.[22:26:38] <CosmicDJ> zil?[22:26:42] <tomww> depends on the kind of data you want to write. some use cases might be tolerant.[22:27:21] *** p3rror has joined #opensolaris[22:27:26] <CosmicDJ> ah nvm, my test case was ufs...[22:29:00] *** mroconnor has quit IRC[22:29:32] <CosmicDJ> which was: extract a 2.3MB tgz (12MB+ untar'ed) on nfs, takes 5+ min on linux, and 9secs on freebsd/solaris...[22:30:32] <CosmicDJ> some linux dev's guessed fbsd/sol are doing smth illegal...[22:30:58] <CosmicDJ> but hey, nfs is sun's baby[22:31:03] *** GhostInTheShell has quit IRC[22:31:07] *** GhostInTheShell has joined #opensolaris[22:31:57] <tomww> the linux client might want to add -o rsize=32768,wsize=32768[22:32:47] <CosmicDJ> it's an OSX client with rwsize=65536[22:32:57] <tomww> and probably the linux side issues "fsync" calls?[22:33:02] <tomww> K[22:37:37] *** ahe has quit IRC[22:38:19] *** TomJ has quit IRC[22:38:20] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[22:38:30] *** merzo has joined #opensolaris[22:39:11] *** alanst has quit IRC[22:40:29] <alanc> that would be very funny, since traditionally it was Linux violating the protocol requirements by acknowledging writes before they were flushed to disk[22:41:14] *** niq has quit IRC[22:41:39] <bdha> alanc: zoom![22:42:32] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[22:43:20] *** ingenthr1 has quit IRC[22:48:54] <CosmicDJ> alanc: yeah linux is now sync by default IIRC[22:50:51] *** sahafeez has joined #opensolaris[22:52:55] *** tg has quit IRC[22:53:03] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[22:53:06] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[22:53:34] <tomww> but that's not all. think of the filesystem ... even if the Fileserver thinks the data is on stable storage, the device write cache still may not be written on the non volatile storage ... and a power outage or a hardware reset happens or a simple hang+reboot cycle[22:53:43] *** sk0rd has quit IRC[22:55:00] *** darrenb has quit IRC[22:55:14] <CIA-21> Martin Faltesek <Martin.Faltesek at Sun dot COM>: 6933848 savecore fails on T4 - dump failed: error 5[22:55:15] <CIA-21> Milan Jurik <Milan.Jurik at Sun dot COM>: 6465090 default nsswitch.nis file is not grounded in reality[22:56:49] *** TomJ has joined #opensolaris[22:56:51] *** darrenb has joined #opensolaris[22:58:44] <Meths> lol @ commit[23:02:48] <lewellyn> people still use NIS? ;)[23:03:00] * lewellyn hides the fact that he does...[23:03:40] <lewellyn> also, i think i finally found the cause of my ongoing cifs woes. i'll have to look for a bug later[23:03:50] <lewellyn> i can't imagine there isn't a bug filed already[23:04:33] <alanc> lewellyn: the Sun internal network uses NIS servers, though they get the data from LDAP on the backend[23:04:43] <Meths> Speaking of NIS, does it get updated with NFS or are people still running whatever NIS they use(d) with NFSv3 with NFSv4?[23:04:50] <lewellyn> alanc: i do similar. i just use AD ;)[23:05:22] <lewellyn> one of these days, i'll look into authing against AD or using forefront to sync to a solaris-hosted ldap server[23:06:10] <lewellyn> (the last time i tried to auth against AD, i got lost and confused and gave up as the sparse documentation appeared to be wrong)[23:07:11] <whiteyOS> not http://www.sun.com/software/products/directory_srvr_ee/dir_srvr/index.xml ?!?! gasp[23:07:28] *** sergiusens has joined #opensolaris[23:07:53] <lewellyn> i hope that gets a better url soon :P[23:08:35] <CosmicDJ> mmhh NIS...[23:09:22] *** fleyta has joined #opensolaris[23:09:47] <fleyta> echelog: help[23:09:58] <CosmicDJ> I need somebody[23:10:02] *** lattera_ has quit IRC[23:10:08] *** gebi has quit IRC[23:12:21] *** lattera_ has joined #opensolaris[23:12:34] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[23:12:36] <CosmicDJ> Meths: NIS is not only used for getting the right uid/gid when using nfs... ;)[23:13:07] <jthunder> Stric: you said dtruss -n syslogd?[23:13:20] <CosmicDJ> alanc: I always thought sun is using NIS+...[23:13:31] <fleyta> Is there a dtrace channel?[23:13:34] *** jt has joined #opensolaris[23:13:39] <lewellyn> fleyta: i think so[23:13:46] <lewellyn> #dtrace[23:13:47] <alanc> only a very small part of Sun used NIS+, and I think that went away when it was EOL'ed[23:14:09] <CosmicDJ> I see[23:14:11] <alanc> that may be one of the reasons NIS+ never took off, since most of Sun didn't learn how to use it[23:14:13] * lewellyn only ever worked for one company who used nis+[23:14:36] * alanc implemented NIS+ on Solaris & HP-UX systems at UC Berkeley long long ago[23:14:41] <lewellyn> no one liked it and i have tried to scrub my mind of it. i don't remember why i didn't like it, in fact. and that's probably a good thing.[23:14:55] *** proprietarysucks has joined #opensolaris[23:15:19] <proprietarysucks> I understood there used to be sxce and osol and sol. does sxce still exist?[23:15:31] <lewellyn> i have a vague memory of shouting something along the lines of "At least NIS WORKS!" :P[23:15:37] <lewellyn> smrt: explain sxce[23:15:38] <smrt> Solaris Express Community Edition. An OpenSolaris distribution which closely resembled legacy Solaris releases. All packages (including "encumbered") shipped on the DVD, and did not include IPS. It became unavailable at the end of January 2010. There is no proper migration path from SXCE. See also: sxce installer, liveupgrade, jumpstart[23:15:56] <lewellyn> proprietarysucks: does that answer your question? ;)[23:16:02] <proprietarysucks> yeah =/ thanks[23:16:05] <lewellyn> (and based on your nick, you wouldn't want sxce anyhow)[23:16:32] <proprietarysucks> yeah I'm going to change that nick[23:16:38] <lewellyn> :)[23:16:38] <CosmicDJ> there was also a SXDE :)[23:16:49] <lewellyn> /nick ihatesource[23:17:00] <lewellyn> CosmicDJ: and there used to be an SX :)[23:17:14] <proprietarysucks> people think that disliking proprietary stuff means you won't use them for some reason[23:17:16] <CosmicDJ> soon OX?[23:17:21] <proprietarysucks> I don't like any operating system that much[23:17:23] <alanc> and there's always OSX, but that's a horse of a different color[23:17:27] <CosmicDJ> or... OSX Oracle Solaris Express lol[23:17:28] <alanc> or a cat[23:17:55] <proprietarysucks> trying to run a backup software on osol which is asking for libxm[23:18:02] <lewellyn> there needs to be an OS with a cow as its mascot[23:18:12] <alanc> proprietarysucks: pkg install motif then[23:18:16] <lewellyn> "Mooooo-ve on over to $whatever!"[23:18:18] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[23:18:24] <alanc> lewellyn: isn't that apt-get?[23:18:36] <lewellyn> alanc: i dunno. debian and i hate each other[23:18:49] <alanc> http://www.eeggs.com/images/items/1089.full.jpg[23:19:21] <lewellyn> that saddens me[23:19:22] <proprietarysucks> package not found[23:19:37] <proprietarysucks> pkg install motif doesn't find it[23:19:37] <lewellyn> that saddens me almost as much as the fact that i've not finished my cowsay spec[23:19:55] <CosmicDJ> proprietarysucks: pkg search libXm?[23:20:10] <lewellyn> proprietarysucks: are you on release or dev?[23:20:12] <seanmcg> motif isn't redistributable (right)?[23:20:16] <alanc> proprietarysucks: which build? "motif" is the name in 133 and later, "SUNWmfrun" in old builds[23:20:19] <alanc> seanmcg: wrong[23:20:28] <proprietarysucks> old builds?[23:20:37] <seanmcg> alanc, oh, didn't know that, thanks.[23:20:38] <proprietarysucks> this is the current download from opensolaris.org -> just installed it[23:20:38] <lewellyn> proprietarysucks: the names of things changed very recently[23:20:45] <lewellyn> uname -v[23:20:49] <lewellyn> what's the output of that?[23:21:18] <alanc> proprietarysucks: 2009.06 stable release is 9 months old now... 133 is about 2 months old, so 2009.06 is older than that[23:21:24] <proprietarysucks> snv_111b[23:21:36] <lewellyn> proprietarysucks: so yeah. use SUNWmfru[23:21:37] <alanc> seanmcg: source is closed, but the binaries are redistributable[23:21:41] <lewellyn> n[23:21:44] <lewellyn> stupid keyboard[23:22:02] <alanc> 'pkg search libXm.so.4' would tell you that too[23:22:17] <proprietarysucks> that's what I ended up going with.. thanks a lot[23:22:18] <lewellyn> that's my only real complaint about sun's keyboards. enter's too small :([23:22:33] <lewellyn> return, rather[23:23:04] <lewellyn> alanc: btw, why doesn't Return generate an \r and Enter generate a \n? ;)[23:23:14] <CosmicDJ> but you have some nice additional keys on the left side which you're pressing by accident the first weeks every time ;)[23:23:25] <richlowe> lewellyn: why does backspace rubout instead of backspacing?[23:23:30] <lewellyn> CosmicDJ: and a giant useless help button![23:23:33] <richlowe> lewellyn: we should build a semantically correct yet unusable keyboard![23:23:39] <alanc> lewellyn: because that's not the way Kernighan & Richie defined it?[23:23:50] <lewellyn> richlowe: that would probably be because there's no rubout key? ;)[23:24:02] <seanmcg> alanc, gotcha, thanks[23:24:03] <lewellyn> alanc: K&R defined X? ;)[23:24:38] <alanc> you need the mafia keyboard localization to get a rubout key, but you have to be careful when you press it[23:24:57] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[23:25:05] <lewellyn> oh, if only that were a useful thing to teach smrt![23:25:40] <alanc> lewellyn: no, X sends XK_Return & XK_Enter - what the terminal emulator maps those to is matching the original Unix terminal definitions[23:25:50] <alanc> or something like that[23:25:52] <lewellyn> ok. fair enough :)[23:26:03] *** baza11215 has quit IRC[23:27:16] <alanc> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/56125 really screws up the inline cows[23:27:28] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[23:28:23] <richlowe> you'd think inline cows would piss off the I$[23:28:57] *** raichoo has quit IRC[23:28:57] <Stric> alanc: and aptitude: http://pastebin.org/163082[23:29:09] *** jthunder has quit IRC[23:29:25] <lewellyn> alanc: comment 20 wins[23:30:20] <alanc> heh, yeah, that was quite amusing[23:31:07] *** ridout has joined #opensolaris[23:32:25] <blizzow> where would I look to see how many show stopper bugs are left for 2010.03?[23:32:34] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[23:32:45] <lewellyn> alanc: it's sad that no one complains about the cow, but the poor bobcat keeps getting slighted :([23:32:52] <lewellyn> blizzow: good question ;)[23:33:36] <richlowe> lewellyn: the cow doesn't look like an actual error[23:33:39] <CosmicDJ> blizzow: http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=8314 ; but I stopped using that list to make estimations[23:33:39] <alanc> blizzow: for bugs tracked in bugzilla, http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/showdependencytree.cgi?id=8314&hide_resolved=1 - for bugs tracked in bugster, in Sun's internal bug database, since that's one of the fields not exposed to bugs.opensolaris.org[23:33:40] *** Tonnerre has joined #opensolaris[23:33:42] <richlowe> though I think the bobcat got fixed, no.[23:33:51] <lewellyn> smrt: explain ptmx[23:33:52] <smrt> See explain pty[23:33:55] <lewellyn> smrt: explain pty[23:33:56] <smrt> After updating a system running build 125 or earlier to any later build, you may have trouble opening terminal sessions (local and remote/ssh) because of missing device permission configuration. Edit /etc/minor_perm and run devfsadm to permanently fix this. See http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=12380 for details.[23:33:59] <lewellyn> hajma: see above :)[23:34:11] <richlowe> it'd be nice if smrt followed singular xrefs automatically.[23:34:17] <lewellyn> richlowe: last i checked, it got fixed like the vet fixes your dog :P[23:34:21] <alanc> bugzilla would only cover IPS, install & desktop - kernel, X, sfw, etc. are all in bugster[23:34:27] <lewellyn> richlowe: it would. it'd be nice if i had the time to do it :)[23:34:40] <hajma> lewellyn: whoa, that's it! thanks :-)[23:34:47] <lewellyn> hajma: no prob :)[23:35:09] *** dajhorn has quit IRC[23:35:29] *** raichoo has joined #opensolaris[23:35:33] <alanc> most of the stoppers I know of at this point are tracked in bugster[23:35:33] <lewellyn> richlowe: smrt's getting its own vm very soon. then i'll look at the database options again :)[23:36:13] <richlowe> alanc: Yeah, I think the only defect blocker there is not really evaluated.[23:36:41] <richlowe> something went wrong (in french), and then no further info got provided. I don't understand it not being INCOMPLETE, at this point.[23:37:14] <alanc> I suppose I should post my 134a changelog for X one of these days[23:37:26] *** hsp has quit IRC[23:37:33] <alanc> though it's hardly exciting, being a whopping one bug long[23:37:46] <alanc> fixed more in CDE than in X for 134a[23:39:58] *** hajma has quit IRC[23:41:09] *** pangu has quit IRC[23:41:11] *** twisti has quit IRC[23:41:46] *** jthunder has quit IRC[23:42:25] *** wdp_aao has joined #opensolaris[23:45:30] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[23:54:29] *** _madmax__ has joined #opensolaris[23:55:08] <CIA-21> Jonathan Adams <Jonathan.Adams at Sun dot COM>: 6941908 sysdc_leave() can race with sysdc_update() and trip over 0xdeadbeef[23:55:47] *** synegy34 has quit IRC[23:58:43] <crichardso> hey guys i asked this before but i forgot how to do it i set some custom properties like zfs set san.domain.com:replication:time=23:00 vol but how do i remove that[23:58:48] <lewellyn> alanc: you haven't killed cde yet? ;)[23:58:58] <alanc> lewellyn: you won't let me[23:59:14] <alanc> CDE the consolidation containing a few surviving bits - not the full desktop[23:59:48] <fleyta> unlink /usr/cde