April 16, 2010 
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April 16, 2010 [00:00:08] <CosmicDJ> trochej: btw nice blog entry about "forking opensolaris"[00:00:09] <jthunder> doesn't create the .AppleDouble unless a resource fork is required[00:00:41] *** tg has quit IRC[00:01:34] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[00:02:06] <CosmicDJ> "Try to avoid noadouble whenever possible."[00:02:50] *** Atomdrache has quit IRC[00:02:55] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[00:03:21] *** tg has quit IRC[00:03:51] *** Atomdrache has joined #opensolaris[00:04:38] *** _madmax_ has joined #opensolaris[00:04:40] <jthunder> CosmicDJ - where is that from?[00:05:48] <jthunder> ah found it[00:07:17] *** projectmoon has quit IRC[00:07:40] <Alasdairrr> Okay well bridges work, bridges attached to etherstubs don't[00:07:44] *** projectmoon has joined #opensolaris[00:07:53] <Alasdairrr> Not on snv129 nor snv134[00:12:40] *** devians_ has joined #opensolaris[00:13:00] *** winstonw has quit IRC[00:14:42] *** devians has quit IRC[00:15:33] *** jamesd__ has joined #opensolaris[00:17:14] *** devians_ has quit IRC[00:18:02] *** jamesd_laptop has quit IRC[00:18:23] *** ivo_ has quit IRC[00:19:50] *** ivo_ has joined #opensolaris[00:22:45] *** Odin- has quit IRC[00:23:26] *** psychicist has quit IRC[00:25:19] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[00:28:05] *** moepmoep has quit IRC[00:28:17] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[00:28:39] *** mmealling1 has joined #opensolaris[00:32:54] *** moepmoep has joined #opensolaris[00:34:01] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[00:34:19] *** sndcrb has quit IRC[00:35:15] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[00:36:00] *** jamesd2 has joined #opensolaris[00:36:22] *** jamesd__ has quit IRC[00:38:06] *** ewdafa has quit IRC[00:39:40] *** Mdx4 has quit IRC[00:42:59] <crichardso> what would this error mean on a zfs send/recv cannot receive stmf_sbd_lu property on SAN/Replication/ISCSI/char-wp-sunray: permission denied[00:42:59] <crichardso> ?[00:43:24] <JeremyK> permission denied means that you don't havep ermission to receive the filesystem[00:44:29] *** niq has quit IRC[00:44:34] <crichardso> its recived but i think it has to do with some type of setting it is trying to put once it is recieved stmf_sbd_lu[00:47:00] <Triskelios> that property stores the COMSTAR configuration[00:47:38] *** ivo_ has quit IRC[00:47:52] *** winstonw has joined #opensolaris[00:49:04] *** ivo_ has joined #opensolaris[00:49:08] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[00:49:50] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[00:50:23] <crichardso> Triskelios: is there an option or something have to use when doing send/recv to get it to tranfer? do i have to escalate the users perms maybe?[00:51:15] *** ThePickle has quit IRC[00:54:00] *** jamesd2 has quit IRC[00:54:04] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[00:54:05] <Triskelios> not sure, http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=471967 is a similar unanswered complaint that recv rejects it[00:56:38] *** jamesd2 has joined #opensolaris[00:57:00] *** Hedonista has joined #opensolaris[00:57:02] *** syamajala has joined #opensolaris[00:57:15] *** CompanionCube has quit IRC[01:00:09] <relling> crichardso: does the user have the delegated permission to set the property?[01:00:50] *** CompanionCube has joined #opensolaris[01:03:42] *** eXeC001er has quit IRC[01:05:16] *** fleyta has joined #opensolaris[01:07:28] <fleyta> *yawn*[01:07:54] <fleyta> gdamore: Are you available?[01:08:09] <gdamore> sort of[01:08:09] <CosmicDJ> like... single?[01:08:26] <CosmicDJ> solo?[01:08:41] <CosmicDJ> up for grabs?[01:08:45] <fleyta> gdamore: Do you care to run an ARC case to add a compound variable stream output format to vmstat?[01:09:17] *** Plazma-W00 has joined #opensolaris[01:09:59] <fleyta> gdamore: i.e. vmstat | while read -C var ; do print ${var.disks[sd1]} ; done[01:10:22] *** niq has quit IRC[01:10:27] *** Plazma is now known as Guest17366[01:10:39] <gdamore> vmstat should have a parseable format. I'm probably not the best choice for a sponsor for it though[01:10:54] *** Plazma-W00 is now known as Plazma[01:10:58] <relling> why not just adjust the vmstat.d dtrace script?[01:11:19] <fleyta> gdamore: The output of vmstat changes between machines.[01:12:46] <gdamore> then the format isn't very parseable....[01:13:15] <fleyta> gdamore: Compound variables solve that trouble. They are by design extensible.[01:13:42] <fleyta> gdamore: like a struct in a shell, only that the size of struct members does not matter.[01:14:22] <gdamore> i can't comment on them, as I've no experience. but there are other projects which have parseable outputs... you should try to follow one of the pre-existing examples rather than creating something completely new.[01:14:35] <gdamore> unless you enjoy long debates at ARC, that is.[01:15:57] <fleyta> gdamore: I could add it as easter egg.[01:16:06] <fleyta> or private interface.[01:16:59] *** Guest17366 has quit IRC[01:17:58] <fleyta> gdamore: I still wait for my last ARC case to finish.[01:18:16] <fleyta> gdamore: I try to avoid to run more than one.[01:19:00] <gdamore> good plan. :-)[01:19:43] <gdamore> easter eggs are verboten by Oracle though. At least according to the secure coding course we all had to go through.[01:20:01] <fleyta> gdamore: Oracle or Sun?[01:20:50] <gdamore> Oracle.[01:21:00] *** dalibor has quit IRC[01:21:15] *** dover has joined #opensolaris[01:21:17] <fleyta> gdamore: New rules?[01:21:42] <jbk> the last one i knew of was pkill -V[01:22:03] <fleyta> jbk: Or builtin egrep in ksh93.[01:22:26] <jbk> well there was the 'zfs creat' that got taken out =[[01:22:37] <jbk> forgot about that[01:22:45] <snuff-work> heh.. got a email about 'oracle enterprise single signon suite plus'.. wonder where they got that from :)[01:23:50] <gdamore> fleyta: yes. new mgmt, new rules. lots of new rules.[01:24:02] <alanc> MACHINE_THAT_GOES_PING is still in, but that's more of an underdocumented feature than an easter egg[01:24:50] *** syamajala has quit IRC[01:24:54] <alanc> since easter eggs are things that aren't related to the program functionality, like displaying the developers names or playing a game[01:25:20] <alanc> (gcc doesn't have the nethack #pragma any more does it ?)[01:26:07] <longcat> In practice, many C implementations recognize, for example, #pragma once as a rough equivalent of #include guards — but GCC 1.21, upon finding a #pragma directive, would instead attempt to launch commonly distributed Unix games such as NetHack and Rogue, or start Emacs running a simulation of the Towers of Hanoi.[1][01:27:01] <alanc> wow, that would be an ancient gcc version[01:27:06] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[01:27:47] <gdamore> i remember using gcc 1.x. And trying to get g++ to build on a DEC Ultrix system. My first Unix experience. Highly unpleasant.[01:29:50] <gdamore> interesting discussion for anyone interested in audio volume adjustment: http://www.dr-lex.be/info-stuff/volumecontrols.html I wish I had known about x^4 when I implemented Boomer. (Boomer uses a precalculated table.)[01:31:14] <longcat> What did zfs creat do?[01:31:35] * sstallion hrms.[01:31:47] <sstallion> gdamore: see any reason why I should bother with early transmit or receive lookahead?[01:31:53] <gdamore> no.[01:31:53] * sstallion can't.[01:31:59] <sstallion> good enough for me.[01:32:15] <gdamore> you potentially get a tiny reduction in the interpacket gap, but modern CPUs don't need it for 100 Mbps.[01:32:16] <sstallion> I figure I'll simply allocb off the databuffer at reception and leave it at that[01:32:41] <sstallion> well, I can trim the gap timing if absolutely needed[01:32:45] <gdamore> yeah. For 100 Mbps I just do that, and use bcopy.[01:33:07] <sstallion> *nod*[01:33:11] <gdamore> This isn't the standard specified IPG... its more like interpacket latency created by the host.[01:33:13] <sstallion> should be fast enough[01:33:22] <sstallion> ahh okay[01:33:33] <gdamore> you *don't* want to play with the actual IPG, because that could bring your NIC out of standard compliance.[01:33:36] <sstallion> *nod*[01:34:01] <gdamore> (although older Sun NICs, like hme, let you tune several of the gap timing parameters.)[01:35:00] <sstallion> same with efe[01:35:09] <sstallion> I immediately skipped that particular section :D[01:36:14] <sstallion> waxing philosophical - not all knobs are good knobs.[01:36:45] <deet> is someone waxing knobs?[01:38:44] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[01:39:02] <sstallion> gdamore: noticed something afe that was interesting - is there a reason why you program various addresses in reset_rings?[01:39:15] <sstallion> or rather, why its done in reset rather than as a part of init[01:39:51] <sstallion> do afe devices whack addresses on device reset?[01:39:53] * gdamore checks the source[01:40:59] <gdamore> I think the way you ensure you a start at the first entry in the ring is to reprogram the address.[01:41:18] <sstallion> interesting[01:41:34] <sstallion> well[01:41:49] <sstallion> :1494 seems to indicate the behavior is like efe; there is a CSR which controls the starting descriptor[01:41:50] <gdamore> otherwise you need an index register or somesuch.[01:42:03] <gdamore> right.[01:42:08] <gdamore> is that not what you're talking about?[01:42:18] <sstallion> let me find the line[01:42:36] <sstallion> :1506 for example[01:42:44] <sstallion> shouldnt you only have to program the paddr once?[01:42:59] <gdamore> oh, I could probably have done that during init, yes.[01:43:04] <gdamore> but call this paranoia.[01:43:12] <sstallion> gotcha - just checking ;)[01:43:20] <gdamore> If I have to reset the chip for some reason, we don't know what may have been scribbled into the DMA region.[01:43:33] <gdamore> plus it keeps all the associated logic in a single place.[01:43:41] <sstallion> hrmm.[01:43:50] <sstallion> by reset, I assume you mean a bus reset?[01:44:01] <gdamore> or a Mac level reset.[01:44:14] *** Mongoose has joined #opensolaris[01:44:24] <sstallion> ah - does afe not support idempotent resets?[01:44:42] <Mongoose> Is there anyone especially familiar with OpenSolaris that would be willing to answer a few questions?[01:44:44] <gdamore> huh? I'm not following your logic here....[01:45:03] <gdamore> the resets are indeed idempotent. but potentially destructive to anything that happened between them.[01:45:08] *** ma3x has quit IRC[01:45:14] <sstallion> gdamore: soft reset usually doesn't touch configuration and/or descriptor state[01:45:33] <gdamore> what I was referring to earlier was that a reset may actually be done as part of recovery from an error.[01:45:43] <sstallion> ahh okay[01:45:53] <gdamore> i'd have to check to see what state is clobbered by a reset on afe.[01:45:56] <sstallion> i.e. a bus-level error[01:46:01] <gdamore> i usually assume "all state"[01:46:09] <sstallion> probably not a bad assumption to make[01:46:38] <gdamore> well, its really just *not* making an assumption that any state *is* retained across reset. :-)[01:46:46] <sstallion> touche :P[01:46:47] <CosmicDJ> Mongoose: I'd just ask...[01:48:54] <sstallion> gdamore: alright. last question then - what is my target throughput to getting this integrated?[01:48:57] <sstallion> 95% ?[01:49:29] <sstallion> (I assume there would have to be a PSARC case to EOL spwr - justifications needed)[01:49:42] <gdamore> i'd settle for anything not regressing spwr by more than 1%[01:49:45] *** Mongoose has quit IRC[01:49:52] <sstallion> gotcha[01:50:04] *** devians has joined #opensolaris[01:50:12] <gdamore> actually, one simpler way forward would be to rename efe to spwr as part of the integration. :-)[01:50:21] <sstallion> haha[01:50:23] <gdamore> then there is only a simple automatic PSARC case.[01:50:26] <gdamore> don't laugh, I'[01:50:30] <gdamore> I've done this before.[01:50:34] <fleyta> gdamore: http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/raw/1862550[01:50:49] <gdamore> ("audioens" is totally different in Nevada than it was in S10 -- no common code!)[01:50:59] <fleyta> gdamore: the entries for disks are broken[01:51:02] <sstallion> that almost seems like cheating :P[01:51:35] <gdamore> fleyta: you confuse me with a person who gives a damn about userland coding.[01:51:36] <sstallion> dunno, I've never cared for the old style of device naming - but thats just me[01:52:07] <gdamore> spwr was ugly indeed... but this "cheating" is actually less intrusive for most folks. Its a good idea.[01:52:31] <sstallion> alright - I'll make a deal with you then ;)[01:52:34] <gdamore> "elxl" was the same thing... I designed a completely different driver from BSD code, and so we now have open source modern elxl. Good riddance to the old code.[01:52:52] <sstallion> I'll do a mass rename if you'd be willing to test SPARC support[01:53:02] <gdamore> not sure I like the sound of where this might be heading....[01:53:57] <sstallion> (I'll have it tested via NICDRV of course)[01:54:41] *** Phenox_ has quit IRC[01:54:57] <sstallion> fleyta: what is that? more ksh93?[01:55:18] *** Phenox_ has joined #opensolaris[01:55:18] <CIA-21> Ramaswamy Tummala <Ramaswamy.Tummala at Sun dot COM>: 6837574 IPoIB Administration Enhancement - PSARC 2010/085 (fix gcc)[01:55:22] <fleyta> sstallion: it would be a streaming script interface for vmstat[01:55:32] <gdamore> i think I can test sparc support. but why do we care?[01:55:34] * sstallion sighs.[01:55:37] <fleyta> sstallion: it solves the trouble with parsing.[01:55:38] <sstallion> gdamore: completeness.[01:55:54] <gdamore> its not like anyone is going to be retroactively adding these to sparc systems.[01:55:55] <sstallion> fleyta: ... why bother? Use DTrace.[01:55:59] <fleyta> sstallion: compound variables are extensible and do not require parsing.[01:56:00] *** Mongoose has joined #opensolaris[01:56:23] <Mongoose> Does the standard OpenSolaris download have a Network Manager?[01:56:26] <sstallion> gdamore: true, but spwr is currently supported on SPARC[01:56:30] <gdamore> i'd rather *not* integrate SPARC support, since it potentially adds to long term sustaining. Unless you can find me at least one user who wants it.[01:56:36] <gdamore> oh, is it?[01:56:41] <gdamore> that would be totally different then.[01:56:41] <sstallion> I thought it was[01:56:49] <sstallion> hang on, let me find an S10 system to shell into[01:57:19] <fleyta> gdamore: What is spwr?[01:57:33] <sstallion> gdamore: yup. supported on SPARC.[01:57:40] <gdamore> its an ancient SMC NIC.[01:57:41] <sstallion> err maybe not.[01:57:52] <gdamore> its not in the closed SPARC build tree. Intel only.[01:58:10] <sstallion> damn.[01:58:17] <Mongoose> If it does, does it support WPA2.[01:58:24] <sstallion> Mongoose: this is a wired device.[01:58:26] <gdamore> Ethernet.[01:58:46] <fleyta> gdamore: Why not just compile it? If there is a user he will file requests.[01:59:02] <gdamore> I think SMC stopped making netgear before WPA (and maybe even before WiFi itself) was created.[01:59:13] <sstallion> fleyta: because its not that easy. There are a lot of resources that get burned supporting hardware.[01:59:27] <Mongoose> I thought this was like a help room :x sorry[01:59:34] <sstallion> gdamore: I have a few 802.11b devices from SMC[01:59:38] <fleyta> sstallion: Compile. Just compile.[01:59:52] <sstallion> fleyta: it doesn't integrate if its not supported.[01:59:59] *** hunter has quit IRC[02:00:03] <gdamore> so everyone who ever builds ON has to compile this? but we don't integrate it into packaging?[02:00:10] <fleyta> sstallion: FreeBSD and Linux have that policy: Compile all if it compiles.[02:00:11] <gdamore> no, I think we'll just skip it.[02:00:22] <sstallion> fleyta: this isnt Linux or FreeBSD.[02:00:26] <gdamore> we are not FreeBSD or Linux. we only deal with tested stuff.[02:00:39] <gdamore> i.e. this is a crapware free zone.[02:00:46] <fleyta> gdamore: Like sound support?[02:01:06] <sstallion> fleyta: integrations to ON go into Solaris Next (most likely) - it needs to be tested and stable.[02:01:09] <gdamore> you're going to bitch about VMware sound being busted, aren't you?[02:01:32] <gdamore> that's potentially a bug, but I'm not sure I care enough to fix it.[02:01:35] <fleyta> gdamore: Yes. vmware support says I should switch to S10, S11 is not supported.[02:01:49] *** jparker has quit IRC[02:01:51] *** stewart has quit IRC[02:02:09] <gdamore> I was contemplating this.. if vmware's emulation of the 810 is not quite true, they might well not like the interrupt free design.[02:03:00] <sstallion> gdamore: any chance the interruptless putback would help with some preemption problems?[02:03:09] <gdamore> yes, it probably helps a lot of other things.[02:03:28] <sstallion> good - last.fm gets rather upset under moderate load.[02:03:28] <gdamore> but it may have broken a crummy emulation of the real device.[02:03:53] <gdamore> i didn't say it *will* help, only that it may.[02:04:13] <sstallion> gdamore: thats not what *I* heard.[02:04:16] <gdamore> it certainly *should* consume less CPU and wake the CPU less often. (Only 100 Hz, instead of ~300.)[02:04:44] <Mongoose> I have some basic Opensolaris questions if anyone wants to chat outside the main room[02:05:02] <sstallion> Mongoose: feel free to ask in the channel. Those that can answer, usually will.[02:05:27] <gdamore> anyway, if you can find someone who wants spwr on SPARC, then I'll add it (test it myself). But I'm not going to waste my time setting up NICDRV for it if nobody wants it.[02:05:37] <sstallion> nah[02:05:44] <sstallion> if its not currently supported, theres no sense in it.[02:05:58] <Mongoose> Thanks. Does OSolaris have a developed wireless network GUI? That is WPA2 capable?[02:06:07] <sstallion> it would be pretty straight-forward - its setup for neutral endianess as it is.[02:06:24] <gdamore> WPA2-PSK is supported, yes.[02:06:44] <gdamore> Full enterprise WPA2 is not. (The one that requires certificates, etc.)[02:06:44] <sstallion> s/neutral/native/[02:07:03] <gdamore> fair 'nuff.[02:07:29] *** ottom has joined #opensolaris[02:07:41] <Mongoose> I noticed that they were mentioning sound not working through OSolaris and VMware. Is that an always?[02:07:44] <gdamore> If you want it integrated into ON, it will be much easier if you do the rename though. Then I can pretty much just "do it". Otherwise you can leave it unbundled, and I'll probably wind up EOF'ing the current spwr driver.[02:08:13] <gdamore> Mongoose: its apparently a recent regression. I probably broke it when I added interrupt free audio support.[02:08:17] *** Auralis has quit IRC[02:08:24] <gdamore> But note that VirtualPC works fine. Better than before even.[02:08:36] <gdamore> s/VirtualPC/VirtualBox/[02:08:40] <Mongoose> Is that a "package" with OSolaris?[02:08:42] <gdamore> too damned many v12n products.[02:09:09] <gdamore> I think VirtualBox is available that way, yes. You can also get it for free for Windows, Linux, etc.[02:09:38] <sstallion> gdamore: gotcha. I'm a bit partial to the brevity of efe, but if I need to do the rename, I will.[02:09:45] <alanc> VirtualBox pkg is available in the extra repo[02:10:04] <Mongoose> I am preparing to migrate from Linux/FreeBSD to OSolaris, hence the desktop questions[02:10:20] <gdamore> you don't have to do the rename, but if you want it integrated, its the easiest (by far) for everyone else. except maybe you. :-p[02:11:48] *** Auralis has joined #opensolaris[02:12:52] <gdamore> ok, I need to go to the hardware store ... 'nite all.[02:12:57] <Mongoose> gdamore: will[02:13:03] <Mongoose> nevermind ;)[02:14:24] *** stevel has quit IRC[02:15:55] <sstallion> gdamore: will do.[02:19:47] <ivo_> I am trying to decide if I should play with oracle 10g or mysql[02:19:53] <ivo_> what do you think[02:21:17] <tsoome> why not 11g if on it?[02:21:33] *** piwi has quit IRC[02:22:02] <ivo_> becouse it is not free[02:22:06] <ivo_> 10g is free[02:22:19] <ivo_> or there is 11g express[02:22:35] <dover> i'm running a OSolaris SNV_134 which according to a forum post has SiliconImage port multiplier support as of SNV_122. I've got this hardware - was working on linux - just tyring to getting working here. cfgadm -l sata is showing the ports as failed. I'm new at Opensolaris administration so am probably missing something basic. Any tips?[02:22:56] *** Calibellus_ has quit IRC[02:23:09] <dover> ptrconf isn't showing disks either[02:23:54] <ivo_> tsoome[02:24:02] <ivo_> there is no express edition for 11g[02:24:12] <tsoome> no idea.[02:24:18] <Killsudo> anyone familiar with rsh tar with solaris[02:24:20] <ivo_> Release 2 is Standard Edition, Standard Edition One, and Enterprise Edition[02:25:32] <ivo_> You may not:[02:25:33] <dover> ivo_: from what i've gathered speaking to database people the experience you have matters more than the product. i've generally heard postgres is good if you have oracle experience.[02:25:42] <ivo_> So I can not use my own App after it is ready[02:26:02] <ivo_> I have MySQL experience[02:26:09] <ivo_> and a bit MS SQL[02:26:09] <Killsudo> I am going from Linux to Solaris and attempting to tar up some files and pipe them to the remote server[02:26:18] <Killsudo> tar czf - passwd* | /usr/bin/rsh -l $serverid $backuphost tar xzf -[02:26:49] <Killsudo> thats what I have so far but the 2nd tar command is giving me issues on the Solaris box, I can echo a file over rsh so I know it works[02:28:21] <dover> ivo_: unless you can identify a pressing need to change - don't :-)[02:29:15] <ivo_> I wanted to try something new[02:29:18] <ivo_> :D[02:29:23] <ivo_> but it doen't matter[02:29:53] <ivo_> I can develop a lot faster for MySQL[02:29:54] <Mongoose> Does OSolaris come with a KDE option?[02:29:59] <ivo_> no[02:30:30] <Mongoose> Do you know if it is possible to build KDE on top of the OSolaris source myself?[02:30:37] <jamesd2> kde3 has been ported to solaris, so that may work and someone may of ported it to opensolaris best to ask google.[02:31:09] <dover> ivo_: postresql is probably good for trying something new - there are some mysql ways of doing things that don't map performance wise well[02:31:16] <jamesd2> kde4 is in progress but its a big project with a lot of work involved, dont hold your breath, what is there is borderline alpha[02:31:24] <dover> not sure what - just going from some mysql expert comments[02:31:35] <alanc> smrt: explain kde[02:31:35] <smrt> KDE 4 is not yet officially available for OpenSolaris. If you feel enterprising, you may wish to check out http://solaris.kde.org/ and http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KDE_on_Solaris for experimental packages or to see if you are able to help the porting effort! 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it just that it hasn't had as much testing done as release versions?[05:16:49] <eclark> actually, if there's a release coming up soon, maybe it's not worth bothering[05:17:13] *** dduvall has quit IRC[05:17:28] <jbk> pretty much just less testing[05:18:19] <jbk> sometimes there are nasty bugs, but usually those are caught before the build is closed (since the rule is supposed to be that something's release ready when it's committed to the source tree)[05:18:29] <alanc> "soon" is relative and a bit undefined at the moment[05:19:00] <jbk> well in cosmic terms.... =][05:19:34] <alanc> bigger than a breadbox, smaller than a millenium[05:19:38] <jbk> though really if i had to guess, my suspicion is that there are some pkg bugs that are holding things up[05:19:51] <jbk> but that's pure speculation[05:21:26] <jbk> though... related to that.. anyone know how much it costs to mail some lithium to germany? =][05:22:39] <Macer> ugh[05:22:46] <Macer> zimbra makes me want to pull my hair out sometimes[05:22:58] <Macer> i swear if they just fixed 2 things in it and added 1 more thing it would be perfect :)[05:23:15] <snuff-work> nah.. they fix 5 things.. break 1 right?[05:23:26] <Macer> sure do :)[05:23:28] <Macer> haha[05:23:29] *** bklang has quit IRC[05:23:49] <Macer> but there are 2 things that i really want and a 3rd that isn't that important but would be awesome[05:24:15] <Macer> i mean other than those things it's so awesome[05:24:28] <Macer> but they are things that are so irritating that it just totally kills it.. like seeing a really hot woman with a giant pimple on her nose[05:25:11] <Macer> not to mention it takes like 20 mins to start up.. but then again that's on a vbox with 1 core[05:25:37] <Macer> it has 2GB of ram tho so i thought that should be enough for a low load zimbra server but java is such a whore[05:27:48] *** lateau has quit IRC[05:28:27] *** Thrae has joined #opensolaris[05:28:48] <Gman> eclark: i'd suggest updating to /dev[05:28:55] *** bubbva 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which is build 134[05:32:59] <eclark> hmm, well, i'm interested in trying anyways, so here goes[05:33:09] <Gman> lblume: "Reply hazy, try again"[05:33:26] <Gman> eclark: after you update your publisher, then a simple matter of pkg image-update[05:34:35] * eclark crosses his fingers and runs the update[05:34:51] <Gman> :)[05:35:35] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[05:37:02] *** ganbold_ has joined #opensolaris[05:37:14] <lblume> Gman: How long can you stay on the stable release without updating it? 2009.06 was rather unusable for me, for example, because of some blocking bugs it had.[05:37:40] *** ganbold has quit IRC[05:38:46] <Gman> lblume: certainly if you're not going to get a contract for /support, then /release needs to be rock solid[05:38:55] <Gman> which is harder to do when you're supposed to be a more time oriented release cycle[05:40:02] *** Brave has joined #opensolaris[05:40:56] *** Thrae has quit IRC[05:41:05] <lblume> As I don't own Oracle hardware, it's not possible for me to get support at all anyway. Rock-solid is good, but vulnerabilities will get known quickly over time in components, so I don't see it lasting until 2010.10 or whatever without updates.[05:42:24] *** Brave has left #opensolaris[05:43:54] *** Brave has joined #opensolaris[05:46:30] <Gman> lblume: yeah, i can appreciate that[05:46:35] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[05:47:13] *** eleusis has quit IRC[05:47:21] *** snuff-work1 has joined #opensolaris[05:47:27] *** lateau has joined #opensolaris[05:48:02] *** snuff-work has quit IRC[05:48:07] *** snuff-work1 is now known as snuff-work[05:48:44] *** ingenthr has joined #opensolaris[05:48:54] *** eleusis has joined #opensolaris[05:48:56] *** eleusis has joined #opensolaris[05:49:21] <lblume> I don't know, maybe it strikes me as odd that people are so yearning for something that'll be so ephemeral. *shrugs*[05:50:21] <taemun> they should get some "stable" stickers made and stick them on all their hardware[05:53:12] *** _madmax_ has left #opensolaris[05:59:17] <skullone> jbk:[06:00:16] *** mariusz has quit IRC[06:00:40] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[06:02:15] *** synegy34 has joined #opensolaris[06:04:44] *** xapiens has quit IRC[06:07:00] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[06:09:24] *** Aria has joined #opensolaris[06:14:54] *** Odin- has quit IRC[06:14:58] *** devians has quit IRC[06:15:19] *** devians has joined #opensolaris[06:16:22] <CodeWar> can somebody try playing this at 720p on their osol box http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlfKdbWwruY[06:17:19] *** radsy has quit IRC[06:17:22] <CodeWar> same machine firefox/flash versions being the same on linux it play w/o any jitters .. fps 25 wnidows same machine it plays 30 fps.. osol it manages 5fps[06:18:25] <CodeWar> i m wondering if its a case of Adobe putting in third grade code for the solaris port or something more fundamentally wrong with osol[06:20:24] *** mariusz has joined #opensolaris[06:23:10] *** relling has quit IRC[06:23:37] <Auralis> works fine here, even in fullscreen @1920x1080[06:24:09] <CodeWar> Auralis, whats your machine like the place where it gives trouble is dul core athlon 2GB RAM[06:24:20] <Triskelios> CodeWar: are your video drivers okay? flash has a *lot* CPU overhead for decoding, but that isn't an issue with a reasonably fast CPU[06:24:38] <CodeWar> Triskelios, flash shouldnt be using the gpu right?[06:24:39] <Auralis> dualcore 3gh core2, 8gig ram, nvidia 7500 gfx[06:24:49] <Triskelios> CodeWar: it requires GL for video scaling[06:25:14] <CodeWar> Triskelios, are you sure about this?[06:25:20] <snuff-work> gpu offload for flash is only in windows i thought[06:25:33] <Triskelios> CodeWar: yes[06:25:34] <CodeWar> thats also what I thought and only for their latest beta release[06:26:21] <CodeWar> Auralis, can you click on disable 3d acceleration and retry your experiment 7500 gfx is on the bigger side[06:26:37] <Triskelios> snuff-home: 10.1 will support VDPAU on Solaris for H.264 offload, according to today's ARC case[06:27:13] <Triskelios> CodeWar: is compiz running? Flash will disable hardware scaling if it is[06:27:22] <Auralis> i have compiz running[06:27:37] <CodeWar> Triskelios, same effect with and w/o compiz and all special effects off[06:28:03] <Triskelios> Auralis: are you using OverrideGPUValidation?[06:28:24] <Auralis> Triskelios: no idea, whats that?[06:28:30] <CodeWar> Triskelios, you seem to know this stuff well.... can you elaborate a bit .... what is using GL for video scaling and what is H.264 offload ..[06:31:55] *** Brave has left #opensolaris[06:32:54] <Triskelios> CodeWar: video scaling is commonly accomplished by rendering the video frames as textures to take advantage of hardware scaling[06:33:48] *** synegy34 has quit IRC[06:34:42] <CodeWar> well I just did a comparison of fps on the same youtube video for different OSes on the same machine ... its 30fps/25fps/5fps for Windows XP/Linux/OSOL ...[06:35:20] <CodeWar> what you re saying makes sense since I see the cpu used about 3/4 on both cores .. so its not running out of cpu limit to give those jitters[06:35:44] <Triskelios> CodeWar: is 3D accel working properly for you?[06:35:53] <CodeWar> Triskelios, compiz works when enabled[06:37:03] *** encephalon has joined #opensolaris[06:38:29] *** PhlowX has quit IRC[06:41:58] <Triskelios> CodeWar: odd... are you using Flash 10 as shipped in osol, or the 10.1 beta?[06:42:45] *** smyth_rj has quit IRC[06:43:00] <CodeWar> nvm .. I was not aware the gpu matters .. I ll rerun the experiment with latest drivers.. and make double sure the gpu are the same between the osol . linux boxes[06:44:46] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[06:50:45] *** Thrae has joined #opensolaris[06:51:47] *** niq has quit IRC[06:51:51] *** wrapster has joined #opensolaris[06:52:11] <wrapster> while trying to compile i18n i get this error.. http://pastie.org/922647[06:52:18] <wrapster> is it because of missing -lconv ?[06:52:23] <wrapster> LDFLAG?[06:55:21] <Triskelios> wrapster: are you accidentally including /usr/gnu/include/iconv.h instead of /usr/include/iconv.h?[06:55:37] <wrapster> Triskelios: it worked when i added -liconv[06:55:39] <Triskelios> wrapster: those symbols are specific to GNU libiconv and probably *not* what you want[06:55:51] <wrapster> Triskelios: hmm..[06:57:32] <Triskelios> wrapster: it's probably actually looking for the normal iconv functions (which are in libc) but pulling in the wrong header would redefine them to the libiconv versions[06:57:41] *** Garen has quit IRC[06:58:07] <wrapster> ok... thanks[06:58:21] *** Garen has joined #opensolaris[07:05:02] *** engrxyz has quit IRC[07:05:28] * lewellyn hates that libc iconv doesn't have some of the basics which would make gnu iconv less relevant, still :([07:08:40] <wrapster> Triskelios: now thats gone and this has popped up.. http://pastie.org/922657[07:09:00] <kohju> |-`)[07:09:20] <wrapster> are these kinda errors due to incompatible veriosns of compilers?[07:10:55] <Triskelios> wrapster: you might just be missing the C++ runtime library libCrun[07:11:46] *** javashin has joined #opensolaris[07:12:05] *** sergiusens has joined #opensolaris[07:12:34] *** eclark has left #opensolaris[07:15:22] *** e1kg has quit IRC[07:15:53] *** skeeziks has joined #opensolaris[07:22:27] *** Rezagrats has joined #opensolaris[07:23:07] <Rezagrats> If i'm only using 4GB of ram, x86 will do, correcty?[07:23:13] *** jmcp has quit IRC[07:25:13] *** javashin has quit IRC[07:25:31] <taemun> ???[07:25:41] <taemun> you can't just pick the SPARC installer because you have lots of ram[07:25:48] <taemun> its a different CPU architecture[07:25:58] <wrapster> Triskelios: how do u guys figure out such issues?[07:26:08] <wrapster> im still a beginner and would like to know :)[07:26:11] <taemun> its like asking me to speak japanese - giving me lots of cake isn't going to help[07:26:17] <wrapster> experience ?[07:26:22] <Triskelios> wrapster: uh, I write software for a living[07:26:29] <wrapster> so do i[07:26:32] <taemun> Triskelios: poor guy[07:26:35] <wrapster> but im a beginner at it[07:26:37] <wrapster> :([07:28:47] *** e1kg has joined #opensolaris[07:28:58] *** g4lt has quit IRC[07:29:07] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[07:29:32] *** Burana has quit IRC[07:32:19] *** Burana has joined #opensolaris[07:33:23] *** e1kg has quit IRC[07:35:07] *** setheus has quit IRC[07:36:12] *** macousi has quit IRC[07:38:03] <Triskelios> Rezagrats: let me guess, you're confused because there's an "x86" CD image but you have an amd64 system? OpenSolaris will boot in 64-bit mode automatically if your system supports it[07:38:30] *** setheus has joined #opensolaris[07:38:40] *** merzo has quit IRC[07:38:44] <Rezagrats> Thanks, Triskelios.[07:41:21] *** g4lt has joined #opensolaris[07:44:56] *** e1kg has joined #opensolaris[07:48:26] *** jmcp has joined #opensolaris[07:48:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jmcp[07:49:22] *** snuff-work has quit IRC[07:51:22] *** techqbert has joined #opensolaris[07:56:26] *** derchris has quit IRC[07:56:30] *** hajma has quit IRC[07:56:31] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[07:57:02] *** perlmongo has quit IRC[07:58:47] *** Zauberpo1y has quit IRC[08:00:40] *** Zauberpony has joined #opensolaris[08:03:20] <madwizard> Coffee[08:04:01] <andrnils> indeed[08:04:14] *** jmcp has quit IRC[08:05:00] <Macer> anybody here use nget?[08:06:10] *** jmcp has joined #opensolaris[08:06:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jmcp[08:06:34] *** phimic has joined #opensolaris[08:09:42] <asyd> 3/s 18[08:09:44] <asyd> oups[08:09:46] <asyd> hello there[08:13:14] *** snuff-work has joined #opensolaris[08:18:11] *** ayasei___ has quit IRC[08:20:20] *** gerard13 has quit IRC[08:22:30] <madwizard> asyd: Kawa[08:24:20] <Rezagrats> Is there a net install version of OS?[08:26:54] <madwizard> Rezagrats: http://genunix.org/dist/indiana/[08:26:57] <madwizard> Look for -ai-[08:27:00] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[08:27:03] <madwizard> Automated Installer[08:27:36] <Rezagrats> Is there a page that explains what each "version" does?[08:34:55] *** Rezagrats has quit IRC[08:35:22] *** klicker has joined #opensolaris[08:47:50] *** umask has joined #opensolaris[08:48:09] *** peerce has joined #opensolaris[08:48:25] *** Fallen_Demon has joined #opensolaris[08:48:43] *** kwinz3 has quit IRC[08:48:55] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[08:49:41] <peerce> does anyone here know the guy who packages the postgres binaries for solaris and opensolaris ? the postgres website says its Bjorn Munch of Sun, in Norway ...[08:49:46] <umask> Hi! Can somebody help me with multipath on opensolaris (SunOS localhost 5.11 snv_134 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris)?[08:50:25] <peerce> you really otta rename your computer. 'localhost' is so overused ;-p[08:51:05] <umask> Hi have HP BL460c g1 with HP Smart Array P700m sas controller and HP MSA2012sa storage attached to server.[08:51:47] <umask> peerce, I know :) thanks for note, but now my server not in production :-)[08:53:14] <umask> `stmsboot -e' says 'WARNING: stmsboot operates on each supported multipath-capable controller detected in a host. In your system, these controllers are' and list of controllers is empty.[08:53:15] <skeeziks> Awesome, I just finished a minimal AI install, based on snv_134, that uses only 116 packages and works well![08:53:26] *** klicker has quit IRC[08:54:22] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[08:54:34] <peerce> umask; you probably want to look at Nemo, http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+nemo/ last I heard, they only support select drivers that have GLDv3 drivers.[08:54:57] <peerce> er, specific devices that have GLDv3 drivers....[08:55:08] *** merzo has joined #opensolaris[08:55:25] *** Codemastor has joined #opensolaris[08:55:52] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[08:56:37] *** MrMethane has quit IRC[08:57:00] <peerce> crossbow, which is the 'new' goodness, also has limited device support, http://hub.opensolaris.org/bin/view/Project+crossbow/nic[08:57:12] <Triskelios> peerce: Zdenek Kotala did the last major postgres update, based on http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=111563[08:57:46] <umask> peerce, in my case storage attached via SAS to server, not iscsi, or may I don't understand how Nemo can help me...[08:58:35] <peerce> oh, I thought you meant network bonding.[08:59:07] <peerce> I wasn't aware SAS supported multipath, I thought that was just for FC and Ethernet type links[08:59:22] <umask> with network all fine :) my network already works via aggregated interface.[08:59:57] *** iFire` has joined #opensolaris[09:00:01] <umask> sorry for my english, my practice too small :-)[09:01:08] *** effnorwood has quit IRC[09:01:16] *** effnorwood has joined #opensolaris[09:02:14] *** Codemastor has left #opensolaris[09:02:22] <umask> I have another server with Solaris 10 with MSA2012sa attached to LSI1068 controller, multipath on this server works fine and correctly enabled by one command (stmsboot -e) at first run :).[09:02:35] *** iFire has quit IRC[09:04:33] <umask> according to documentation I tried add multipath support for new device by editins /kernel/drv/scsi_vhci.conf, but this action didn't help me.[09:05:55] *** RoyK has joined #opensolaris[09:05:57] <peerce> a smartarray is a whole different beast.[09:07:02] <umask> yes :-)[09:07:03] <peerce> i doubt (open)solaris has much in the way of support for it other than at the most basic. the smartarray isn't a SAS controller to the host, its a raid controller, it presents logical volumes and does all the SAS stuff itself[09:07:39] <mui> moin[09:07:43] <peerce> so any multipathing would be between the p400 or whatever and the drives, the OS would have nothing to do with it[09:09:01] <umask> p700m is mezzanine card for HP blades which interconnect blade server to SAS switches installed in chassis.[09:09:35] <peerce> right, but its a raid controller, right? it presents logical drives made from raids ?[09:09:43] <umask> Into SAS switches (on chassis) plugged sas cables from storage.[09:12:22] <Macer> wow. that beach landing in the latest episode of the pacific was amazingly done[09:13:02] <umask> p700m presents logical volumes created on storage side. And each logical volume available via few paths.[09:13:54] <peerce> what, there's just the pci express bus between the p700m raid controller and the host. what multiple paths ?[09:14:55] <peerce> see, what i'm saying is, the host doesn't see that card as a SAS channel, it sees it as a raid controller[09:15:15] <peerce> any multipathing support would be implemented internally in the p700m and be transparent to the host OS[09:15:44] <umask> Ok, I understand.[09:16:27] *** tsoome has quit IRC[09:16:48] <umask> I also have few linux machines where multipathing also works on p700m and I configure multupath in OS. It's works.[09:16:51] *** BenCap has joined #opensolaris[09:17:39] <umask> Which command can chech how host system determine p700m (as sas channel or as raid controller)?[09:17:43] <umask> *check[09:17:55] <peerce> does HP have solaris utilities for that card?[09:18:06] *** duckinator has quit IRC[09:19:40] *** Aria has quit IRC[09:21:04] *** kwinz3 has joined #opensolaris[09:21:48] *** ingenthr has quit IRC[09:21:59] *** duckinator has joined #opensolaris[09:22:12] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[09:25:02] <umask> peerce, in this package http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=3628653&prodTypeId=332283&prodSeriesId=3628652&swLang=13&taskId=135&swEnvOID=2023#78221 contained only tools for monitor raid status and operate on logical volumes, no information about multipath control.[09:26:05] <umask> I can stop/start controllers on MSA2012 (yes, from storage said installed 2 controllers) and see disks status on host system...[09:27:15] <peerce> I'm not up on that specific harwdare, but the MSA stuff i've used before had its own raid controllers. seems kinda sketchy to use a raid controller in the host to talk to a raid controller in the external drive arraay.[09:31:30] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] NOTICE: Smart Array P700m Controller[09:31:30] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] Expander Link Down, Port=44 Box=0 Exp=0 Phy=28 Port on module=0[09:31:30] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 100000 kern.notice][09:31:30] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] NOTICE: Smart Array P700m Controller[09:31:30] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] Expander Link Down, Port=44 Box=0 Exp=0 Phy=29 Port on module=0[09:31:33] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 100000 kern.notice][09:31:35] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] NOTICE: Smart Array P700m Controller[09:31:37] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] Expander Link Down, Port=44 Box=0 Exp=0 Phy=30 Port on module=0[09:31:40] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 100000 kern.notice][09:31:42] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] NOTICE: Smart Array P700m Controller[09:31:44] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] Expander Link Down, Port=44 Box=0 Exp=0 Phy=31 Port on module=0[09:31:47] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 100000 kern.notice][09:31:49] <taemun> umask: thanks for the spam[09:31:49] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] NOTICE: Smart Array P700m Controller[09:31:53] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] Expander Link Down, Port=34 Box=0 Exp=0 Phy=28 Port on module=0[09:31:56] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 100000 kern.notice][09:31:58] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] NOTICE: Smart Array P700m Controller[09:32:00] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] Expander Link Down, Port=34 Box=0 Exp=0 Phy=29 Port on module=0[09:32:03] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 100000 kern.notice][09:32:04] *** peerce has left #opensolaris[09:32:05] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] NOTICE: Smart Array P700m Controller[09:32:07] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 823470 kern.notice] Expander Link Down, Port=34 Box=0 Exp=0 Phy=30 Port on module=0[09:32:10] <umask> Apr 16 11:35:12 deskpro-mysql cpqary3: [ID 100000 kern.notice[09:32:12] <umask> I stops one card on storage :-)[09:32:19] <umask> taemun, sorry.[09:32:36] <taemun> umask: next time use Clipboard: http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/ as per topic[09:33:43] *** kwinz3 has quit IRC[09:34:48] <umask> taemun, ok thanks.[09:35:20] *** Fallen_Demon has quit IRC[09:37:07] <madwizard> Coffee[09:37:58] *** lattera has quit IRC[09:38:16] <umask> peerce has left chat, but i have to say :) shit happened when I stops controllers.[09:39:11] *** gebi has joined #opensolaris[09:39:11] <umask> When 1st controller has stopped all works fine, but when I stopped 2nd controller any operation on disk on storage stops with io error.[09:40:25] *** KermitTheFragger has joined #opensolaris[09:40:51] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[09:41:12] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[09:48:23] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[09:53:38] *** dover has quit IRC[09:53:51] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[09:53:54] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[10:02:20] <madwizard> Coffe[10:03:19] <causality> e[10:04:27] *** DesiJat has joined #opensolaris[10:05:13] *** GhostInTheShell has quit IRC[10:06:08] *** GhostInTheShell has joined #opensolaris[10:08:07] *** disharmony has quit IRC[10:13:06] *** milek has quit IRC[10:13:56] *** kolle 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<madwizard> Coffee[10:35:43] *** fuku has left #opensolaris[10:35:56] <encephalon> madwizard: did you get some et] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds][10:36:03] <encephalon> er[10:36:15] <encephalon> madwizard: did you get some Kopi Luwak[10:39:37] *** jthunder has quit IRC[10:41:16] *** kolle has left #opensolaris[10:43:18] *** gebi has quit IRC[10:45:02] <madwizard> E?[10:45:05] <madwizard> Whasat?[10:48:29] <madwizard> Aaah[10:48:32] <madwizard> Nope, I don't[10:49:19] *** fuku has joined #opensolaris[10:49:22] <madwizard> The closes I'd ever get to Kopi is kopiko: www.ewarung.com/images/Indofood/kopiko.jpg[10:49:25] <madwizard> :)[10:52:09] *** quan_ has quit IRC[10:53:34] *** jamesd2 has joined #opensolaris[10:57:04] *** codestr0m has joined #opensolaris[11:08:12] *** phil has joined #opensolaris[11:08:13] *** codestr0m has left #opensolaris[11:09:13] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[11:09:28] *** fuku has quit IRC[11:10:47] *** master_of_master has joined #opensolaris[11:12:52] *** xtrondo has joined #opensolaris[11:16:49] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris[11:17:46] *** LouisJB has joined #opensolaris[11:25:33] *** disharmony has joined #opensolaris[11:25:42] <disharmony> hi[11:28:26] *** dalibor has quit IRC[11:30:14] *** Erwann has joined #opensolaris[11:31:00] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[11:31:19] *** kwinz3 has quit IRC[11:32:51] <disharmony> I have NFS share on ZFS with less-important data on it, is there a way to force all write to this share to be async? even if the client does a fsync? I think I heard something about a "sync mode" a while ago, but can't find anything about this[11:34:22] *** lateau has quit IRC[11:35:24] *** Yu\2 has joined #opensolaris[11:36:16] *** gebi has joined #opensolaris[11:37:50] *** Wilhelm_Scream has joined #opensolaris[11:37:54] <Wilhelm_Scream> Anyone on?[11:38:00] <jbit> disharmony: man share_nfs[11:38:22] <jbit> ah[11:38:33] <Wilhelm_Scream> Anyone care to provide a link on how to compile software in opensolaris?[11:38:39] <jbit> disharmony: doesn't mention sync mode, sorry, thought it did[11:38:40] <Wilhelm_Scream> Trying to compile mplayer[11:38:49] <madwizard> Wilhelm_Scream: google up sfe opensolaris[11:39:03] <jbit> Wilhelm_Scream: it's the same as on most other unix platforms... ./configure; make; make install[11:39:32] <Wilhelm_Scream> Took me a while to figure out gcc wasn't preinstalled[11:39:41] <Wilhelm_Scream> Odd that isn't included[11:40:12] <disharmony> jbit: nope, but do you know if it is implemented already? I am on zpool version 22[11:41:03] <Wilhelm_Scream> Anyone here use Opensolaris as their primary desktop os?[11:41:22] <disharmony> my nfs is 4 times as slow as my comstar iscsi lun from the same box and pool (tested with lots of small files)[11:42:27] <Auralis> Wilhelm_Scream: i do[11:45:12] *** xapiens has joined #opensolaris[11:45:49] <lblume> Wilhelm_Scream: Maybe not everybody cares to build his own apps from source? And yes, it's my main desktop OS.[11:46:29] <madwizard> Wilhelm_Scream: I do[11:47:15] *** Wilhelm_Scream has quit IRC[11:50:46] *** sysspoof_ has joined #opensolaris[11:51:24] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[11:56:17] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[11:58:58] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[12:02:16] *** vivid has quit IRC[12:03:31] <nikolam> I am on 131 because on any newer I get X freezes. My question is: if i remove ¨entire¨ package and some more, could i then update my programs, while staying on 131?[12:04:23] *** piwi has joined #opensolaris[12:04:25] *** vivid has joined #opensolaris[12:04:29] <nikolam> And second question is: Why apps rely on dependencies for release, when most of them obviously should not depend on ¨newest and gratest¨ versions[12:09:37] *** afrasi has joined #opensolaris[12:11:49] <madwizard> E?[12:11:51] *** xenol has quit IRC[12:11:51] <madwizard> Coffee?[12:12:08] <RoyK> hi all. trying to setup serial console here, using this howto, http://www.linuxdynasty.org/opensolaris-serial-console-howto.html, I try to connect to serial1 with tip, but get nothing. nothing with serial cable either[12:13:40] <nikolam> madwizard, ?[12:14:17] *** kwinz3 has joined #opensolaris[12:15:55] *** sysspoof_ has quit IRC[12:17:51] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[12:20:38] *** Spencer_tt has joined #opensolaris[12:20:47] *** xenol has joined #opensolaris[12:22:47] <nikolam> I feel like I am crazy for I use opensolaris on my laptop.[12:23:06] *** dalibor has quit IRC[12:23:15] <nikolam> Like ¨we told you¨ is always somewhere up in the air.[12:23:59] <madwizard> nikolam: I use it too[12:24:05] <madwizard> nikolam: However I stick to /release[12:24:27] <nikolam> madwizard, how you survive then with 2009.06 all this time?[12:24:42] <madwizard> nikolam: Lots of coffee[12:24:43] <nikolam> how you get newer programs, security patches, etc?[12:25:10] <madwizard> No security patches, obviosly[12:25:18] <nikolam> ok and programs[12:27:34] <nikolam> suppose Sfe does not ¨play¨ with release, with /dev only. Not sure about /contrib[12:29:09] <lblume> /contrib is built with /release only[12:29:42] *** calumb has joined #opensolaris[12:29:55] <nikolam> aha[12:30:21] <nikolam> I can not install any newer programs, while being stuck on 131[12:30:36] <nikolam> it pops up with an error[12:31:45] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[12:32:07] *** sysspoof_ has joined #opensolaris[12:32:12] <nikolam> seems like entire and some other package ensures that you cant install newer app on older /dev[12:33:05] <RoyK> anyone that can help me with the serial console question?[12:34:24] *** milek has joined #opensolaris[12:34:31] *** tosh has joined #opensolaris[12:34:36] *** ozux has quit IRC[12:35:35] *** fuku has joined #opensolaris[12:38:47] <Spencer_tt> hmm temp.noflyzone.eu crap[12:39:22] <Spencer_tt> RoyK: what console issue[12:39:44] *** dalibor_ has joined #opensolaris[12:40:42] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[12:41:32] <RoyK> [12:17] <RoyK> hi all. trying to setup serial console here, using this howto, http://www.linuxdynasty.org/opensolaris-serial-console-howto.html, I try to connect to serial1 with tip, but get nothing. nothing with serial cable either[12:41:32] *** phil has quit IRC[12:42:03] <nikolam> <RoyK> I try to connect to serial1 with tip, but get nothing. nothing with serial cable either[12:43:29] <nikolam> RoyK, why serial1[12:44:07] *** dalibor has quit IRC[12:44:08] *** dalibor_ is now known as dalibor[12:44:12] *** chendy has quit IRC[12:45:41] <Spencer_tt> hmm no serial cables.adaptors here, my advice would be academich[12:46:02] <RoyK> academich?[12:46:10] <Spencer_tt> yesh[12:46:39] <RoyK> I tested the serial connection and that works[12:46:48] <RoyK> so seems the login part is the problem[12:46:53] <RoyK> or "getty"[12:47:37] <RoyK> a totally differnet question - is comstar in the main repository (dev) now?[12:47:38] <Spencer_tt> but you can communicate via the cable it seems, just the login acting up[12:47:56] <RoyK> Spencer_tt: correct - serial comms work, but I get no login[12:48:50] <Spencer_tt> gimme a couple of minutes[12:48:54] <RoyK> k[12:49:59] *** Dagobert_ has joined #opensolaris[12:52:29] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[12:52:29] *** Dagobert_ is now known as Dagobert[12:52:46] *** afrasi has quit IRC[12:52:48] *** vshiray has quit IRC[12:52:58] *** fuku has left #opensolaris[12:53:04] *** afrasi has joined #opensolaris[12:57:35] *** xtrondo has quit IRC[12:59:13] *** e1kg has quit IRC[13:03:25] *** e1kg has joined #opensolaris[13:05:45] *** afrasi has quit IRC[13:08:36] *** afrasi has joined #opensolaris[13:10:02] <Spencer_tt> you can try picocom maybe playing with some settings might check out http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Remote-Serial-Console-HOWTO.html#GETTY[13:10:30] <Spencer_tt> have to kill my sleep debt, I'll be back later :)[13:10:35] <Spencer_tt> good luck.[13:13:00] *** e1kg has quit IRC[13:16:13] <RoyK> Is comstar iscsi in the main repository (dev) now?[13:17:21] *** swift has joined #opensolaris[13:17:34] <madwizard> Coffee[13:19:03] *** sipior has joined #opensolaris[13:21:19] *** gm152 has joined #opensolaris[13:22:14] *** gm152 has quit IRC[13:22:46] *** gm152 has joined #opensolaris[13:24:27] *** twilling has joined #opensolaris[13:26:17] *** e1kg has joined #opensolaris[13:35:24] *** merzo has quit IRC[13:35:31] *** Fullmoon has joined #opensolaris[13:37:08] *** merzo has joined #opensolaris[13:38:12] *** twisti has quit IRC[13:40:44] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[13:40:47] *** ziyourenxiang has joined #opensolaris[13:45:46] *** twisti has quit IRC[13:46:16] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[13:53:02] *** ivo_ has quit IRC[13:54:37] *** gm152 has quit IRC[13:55:10] *** jamesd2 has quit IRC[13:55:25] *** Erwann has quit IRC[13:55:33] <CIA-21> Owen Roberts <Owen.Roberts at Sun dot Com>: 6602216 ufs vnevent_remove/vnevent_rename needs to occur before namespace manipulation[13:55:39] *** jamesd2 has joined #opensolaris[14:00:56] *** xtrondo has joined #opensolaris[14:02:28] *** drzz has joined #opensolaris[14:03:40] *** calumb is now known as calLNCH[14:04:10] *** milek has quit IRC[14:14:49] *** encephalon has quit IRC[14:15:58] *** xtrondo has quit IRC[14:16:57] *** xtrondo has joined #opensolaris[14:20:03] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[14:21:35] *** drzz has quit IRC[14:23:55] *** drzz has joined #opensolaris[14:23:57] *** Berny has quit IRC[14:27:43] *** vmlemon has quit IRC[14:30:35] *** drzz has quit IRC[14:33:19] *** mroconnor has quit IRC[14:34:05] <mrp> how do i get sytax colour in opensolaris[14:34:08] <mrp> in vi[14:35:20] *** robo has joined #opensolaris[14:37:40] *** wewek has joined #opensolaris[14:40:29] *** wewek has quit IRC[14:48:56] *** dalibor_ has joined #opensolaris[14:49:41] <skeeziks> mrp: Run `vim' instead and make sure your TERM variable is set to something that supports color.[14:50:14] <skeeziks> mrp: It may be that vim is the default, I don't recall.[14:50:15] <trygvis> the only way I've gotten vi/vim to use colors is to add "-T ansi" to the vim command[14:50:15] *** bklang has joined #opensolaris[14:50:19] *** lateau has joined #opensolaris[14:50:24] <trygvis> or use lewellyn's script to fix your terminfo database[14:50:36] <skeeziks> trygvis: Tell me about this script?[14:50:47] <trygvis> smrt: explain terminfo[14:50:47] <smrt> Um. I seem to not know anything about terminfo...[14:50:49] <skeeziks> Where is it and what does it fix?[14:51:08] <mrp> my shell is really wierd lots of keys dont work correctly[14:51:13] <trygvis> it updates the terminfo database to this millenium[14:51:18] <mrp> like home/end backspace etc[14:51:24] <mrp> trygvis: link?[14:51:46] <mrp> does anyone use auto-scrub?[14:51:47] <skeeziks> trygvis: Nice! Solaris has always caused me more trouble than most other unices.[14:51:52] <trygvis> http://www.greenviolet.net/articles/2010/02/24/opensolaris-updated-terminal-databases.gv[14:51:53] <skeeziks> (re: terminfo)[14:52:10] *** dalibor has quit IRC[14:52:10] *** dalibor_ is now known as dalibor[14:53:02] *** Fallen_Demon has joined #opensolaris[14:53:12] *** effnorwood has quit IRC[14:53:14] *** sergiusens has quit IRC[14:57:36] <skeeziks> trygvis: Thanks! It already fixes a few annoying issues I've had in the past.[14:58:11] <FastJack> wow, online shopping in .uk is complicated! http://skitch.com/fastjack/n9ns1/title-selection[14:59:04] *** cudgel has joined #opensolaris[14:59:48] *** umask has quit IRC[15:01:30] *** wewek has joined #opensolaris[15:03:06] *** calLNCH is now known as calumb[15:03:47] <mrp> woohoo backspace works now :)[15:03:58] <mrp> vi is nice :)[15:06:13] *** mroconnor has joined #opensolaris[15:06:29] *** phimic has quit IRC[15:06:45] <madwizard> ed[15:06:49] <madwizard> ed fo teh win![15:09:55] *** Fullmoon has quit IRC[15:09:58] <rkeene> It is the standard UNIX text editor.[15:13:30] *** hnhn has joined #opensolaris[15:16:27] *** ozux has quit IRC[15:18:06] *** synegy34 has joined #opensolaris[15:18:41] *** twilling_ has joined #opensolaris[15:19:56] *** strawf_ has joined #opensolaris[15:21:20] *** darrenb` has joined #opensolaris[15:21:51] <mrp> how do i set up auto-snapshot?[15:22:07] *** taemun_ has joined 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connect to it?[16:05:54] *** psychicist has joined #opensolaris[16:06:19] *** gjl has joined #opensolaris[16:07:42] <mrp> i have a ubuntu vm in vbox but when i mount a shared folder i cant get access?[16:07:48] <mrp> what the best way t mount[16:10:41] *** scottdickson has joined #opensolaris[16:16:45] <calumb> mrp: I've never had any problem with doing it as described in the user manual: mount -t vboxsf -o uid=<your-uid-on-guest>,gid=<your-gid-on-guest> <sharename> <mountpoint>[16:19:16] *** wdp_aao__ has joined #opensolaris[16:20:56] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[16:21:19] *** InTheWings has joined #opensolaris[16:21:52] <CosmicDJ> crichardso: http://blogs.sun.com/ThinGuy/entry/apple_osx_desktop_on_sun[16:22:08] <CosmicDJ> so anyone did ;)[16:22:24] <CosmicDJ> or should I say someone[16:22:52] *** wdp_aao_ has quit IRC[16:23:35] *** sysspoof_ has quit IRC[16:23:49] *** bubbva has joined #opensolaris[16:23:59] *** pablomh has joined #opensolaris[16:26:51] *** jacotton has joined 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Coffee[18:23:31] <alanc> so for external people to submit an update, you ask some nice internal engineer to paste it into bugster for you[18:23:45] <Jondice> ok haha[18:24:35] <alanc> RoyK: heh - saw another one today: "Hey Iceland! You were supposed to send us CASH, not ASH!"[18:24:36] <Jondice> i'll wait until i get some more data and post back here, thanks[18:24:47] *** leito has joined #opensolaris[18:25:09] <jbk> anyone have any success getting zenoss working on opensolaris?[18:25:34] <alanc> that's not just a typo for zones, is it?[18:25:42] <jbk> no[18:26:07] <jbk> it's network monitoring & mgmt software[18:26:19] <jbk> and seems to be better than most of the snmp network monitoring things i've found[18:26:45] <jbk> i've tried zabbix, cacti, opennms, and a few others[18:26:50] <jbk> and nagios of course[18:26:53] <RoyK> alanc: yeah, saw that too :)[18:26:58] <jbk> and didn't really care for them[18:27:30] <jbk> unfortunately, it wants to bundle most of the required subcomponents and build them all[18:27:41] <jbk> but (of course) is geared for linux[18:27:50] <jbk> right now, it's bombing on pycrypto[18:27:56] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[18:28:20] <jbk> but haven't been able to dissect their build system enough to figure out how to pass custom flags when it calls the pycrypto build[18:28:30] <jbk> since I think it's just a matter of header files being in the wrong spot[18:28:51] * jbk just might give up and use a prepacked linux vminstance, but really wants to avoid that..[18:29:04] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[18:29:29] <jbk> (of course, it'd probably be nicer to rewrite pycrypto to use the crypto api when running on opensolaris)...[18:29:30] <RoyK> jbk: I just use nagios, but then, I do that on a dedicated linux box[18:29:56] *** chilicuil has quit IRC[18:30:21] <jbk> as i said, i've used nagios, and find it rather crude[18:30:25] <jbk> and ugly[18:30:48] *** deet has quit IRC[18:30:56] <RoyK> I've switched most stuff over to icinga - at least there is development in that project, albeit still a nagios fork[18:31:40] *** deet has joined #opensolaris[18:31:40] *** wrapster has joined #opensolaris[18:32:06] <wrapster> pkg uninstall SUNWctpls says "matches no installed 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a distro that is known to work[18:45:56] <RoyK> Jondice: and since 2.6.0 came out in late 2003, it might be a good reason to use it[18:46:13] <RoyK> or several good reasons, really[18:46:28] <RoyK> especially on SMP systems, and today, which system isn't SMP?[18:47:04] *** Atomdrac1e is now known as Atomdrache[18:47:05] *** Mousk4r has joined #opensolaris[18:47:20] *** corretico has quit IRC[18:47:31] <Nitial> alanc: what makes that CASH/ASH joke even funnier is the thing that the Icelandic alphabet does not have letter C :)[18:47:35] <Nitial> for real[18:47:37] <RoyK> in 2.4, kernel doesn't keep track on which core a process or thread is using, so it might be rescheduled to somewhere else, adding overhead and messing up cache[18:47:54] <RoyK> Nitial: ég veit :)[18:48:02] <Jondice> see here http://wiki.genunix.org:8080/wiki/index.php/Installing_Arch_Linux_in_a_branded_zone[18:49:05] *** Vanuatoo has quit IRC[18:51:14] *** Vanuatoo has joined #opensolaris[18:51:18] *** Mousk4r has quit 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urr[19:34:39] <ampex> http://arstechnica.com/software/news/2010/04/standalone-solaris-subscriptions-will-soon-be-history.ars[19:34:42] <ampex> yikes[19:34:45] *** RoyK has quit IRC[19:35:15] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris[19:36:43] *** Dagobert has joined #opensolaris[19:39:45] *** lateau has quit IRC[19:43:35] *** krzabr has joined #opensolaris[19:43:44] *** xtrondo has joined #opensolaris[19:47:48] *** krzabr has left #opensolaris[19:52:07] *** omry has joined #opensolaris[19:52:37] *** calumb has quit IRC[19:54:20] *** snuff-home2 has joined #opensolaris[19:56:30] <Meths> Anyone read the comments on that article who can point to more info about the showstopper with zpool mirrors fixed in snv_136?[19:56:30] *** derchris has quit IRC[19:56:36] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[19:56:44] *** snuff-home has quit IRC[19:58:48] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[20:01:54] *** propangu has joined #opensolaris[20:02:14] <jdoe> Meths: uhh... there's a bug in 134 with mirrored root, maybe that's 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I'm using mirrored root on 134[20:04:13] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[20:07:44] <bdrewery> yeah I didn't have any issues, what's the problem?[20:08:27] *** blkruby has quit IRC[20:09:13] *** eclark has joined #opensolaris[20:09:51] <eclark> I just updated to the dev release, and upon boot, the login screen has me typing in arabic[20:09:56] <eclark> with no way to change that :\[20:10:24] <eclark> if I do a remote X session from my mac, things work fine though[20:10:59] <eclark> if anyone has any suggestions on how to resolve this, I'm all ears :)[20:12:32] *** RoyK has joined #opensolaris[20:13:39] <jdoe> bdrewery: I don't remember the details or the number, something about broken mirrors not booting properly.[20:14:38] <Netwolf> eclark: learn arabic. Perhaps it was your calling[20:15:14] <eclark> heh, well it is on my language "to-do" list, but it's a few languages down...[20:15:37] <eclark> are there some system-level X config files that can be deleted or something?[20:15:45] <eclark> the system seems to have otherwise booted fine[20:17:57] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[20:18:53] *** yippi has quit IRC[20:20:35] *** milek_ has quit IRC[20:20:42] <Triskelios> eclark: it isn't a property of the X the server, might be the display manager or a systemwide default language[20:20:55] <eclark> d'oh[20:21:08] <eclark> i guess that would make sense, if the remote X session is working fine[20:21:28] *** ffs has joined #opensolaris[20:22:00] *** Dagobert has quit IRC[20:22:16] <RoyK> fuck. suddenly our osol server stops answering to nfs requests and then, after a while, it starts working again, but times out on ssh requests and now I just get "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" when attempting to ssh into the box[20:22:16] <Triskelios> eclark: check /etc/default/init I guess[20:23:23] <eclark> lol "PTY allocation request failed on channel 0"[20:23:26] * eclark facepalms[20:23:39] <Triskelios> fix that first[20:24:19] <eclark> i have never seen this before - no idea how![20:24:20] *** afrasi has quit IRC[20:24:31] <eclark> ah, terminal from the remote x session opens fine though[20:24:39] <Triskelios> eclark: it's a very old bug, in the release notes[20:26:24] <Triskelios> RoyK: try disabling public key auth on the client temporarily[20:26:25] <eclark> lol can't type in the remote x terminal[20:26:48] * eclark tries that[20:27:21] <eclark> nope...[20:27:25] *** ffs has quit IRC[20:27:29] <eclark> alrightythen[20:27:35] <eclark> i'm not sure how to fix this, since i can't type[20:27:36] <eclark> lol[20:28:02] <eclark> arabic on the physical system, can't type in remote x session, and ssh no worky[20:28:15] <RoyK> Triskelios: in ssh?[20:28:22] <Triskelios> RoyK: uh-huh[20:28:24] <eclark> ssh gives the PTY error[20:28:38] <eclark> THIS IS AWESOME[20:28:57] <Triskelios> eclark: you can boot your previous BE[20:29:05] <eclark> oh yeah[20:29:26] <eclark> alrighty, guess i'm heading down to the basement for another reboot :\[20:29:49] <eclark> wait, so i boot into the previous BE, mount the new one, and make the changes there, or something?[20:29:51] <tomww> env -i /usr/bin/ssh user@box (does this change anything?)[20:30:00] <sstallion_work> RoyK: attach to the console[20:30:01] <RoyK> Triskelios: do you remember the ssh_config for that by any chance?[20:30:15] <Triskelios> RoyK: no, but you can move the keys out of the way[20:30:17] <RoyK> sstallion_work: I'm not there[20:30:27] <sstallion_work> RoyK: shell into your serial server[20:30:34] <eclark> doing env -i didn't change anything[20:30:40] <Triskelios> RoyK: or /Pub in the man page[20:30:53] *** ozux has joined #opensolaris[20:31:09] <tomww> K[20:31:26] <Triskelios> eclark: you should actually be able to type blindly to fix the issue in your current state, but yeah[20:32:26] <Triskelios> eclark: because of the packaging bugs in the older builds, it's very important to read the release notes when updating from them[20:33:03] <eclark> oh, like, even if things are being displayed in arabic, they're actually being entered in english?[20:33:12] *** ewdafa_ has quit IRC[20:33:46] *** ewdafa has joined #opensolaris[20:33:55] *** CodeWar has joined #opensolaris[20:34:15] <CodeWar> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html looks like 10.1 has a Solaris port too .. must have been recent since it wasnt there a few days back[20:34:24] <RoyK> sstallion_work: didn't change much[20:34:37] <CodeWar> i m glad they are taking Solaris as aserious desktop customer :-) even 1080p works great with this version[20:34:48] <Triskelios> CodeWar: yes, 10.1 final is about to be integrated[20:34:53] <sstallion_work> RoyK: ? as in you do not have serial access?[20:35:05] <CodeWar> but the hulu problem is still there[20:35:05] <sstallion_work> or the serial console is locked?[20:35:19] <RoyK> sstallion_work: sorry, that was meant to Triskelios[20:35:22] <Triskelios> eclark: er... I didn't think it was affecting your input there. I meant for the ssh sessions youcouldn't see anything in, though[20:35:26] <RoyK> sstallion_work: no, I don't have serial access from here[20:35:46] <sstallion_work> RoyK: well - I would suggest picking up a console server for times like this.[20:36:07] <sstallion_work> Assuming a box will always be attached to the network is a great way to spend too much time in front of the machine[20:36:19] *** Mousk4r has joined #opensolaris[20:36:32] <RoyK> we have one, on the inside network, but someone didn't allow for OS X into there, and I don't have a windoze machine here, so I guess I'll be going to the office tomorrow[20:37:06] <RoyK> single OS VPN solutions suck[20:39:15] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[20:40:00] *** victori has quit IRC[20:42:15] *** winstonw1 has quit IRC[20:43:29] *** LaCap has quit IRC[20:44:07] *** achester has quit IRC[20:44:14] *** RoyK has quit IRC[20:45:29] *** gebi has quit IRC[20:45:36] *** RoyK has joined #opensolaris[20:47:09] *** stewart has quit IRC[20:47:40] *** niq has quit IRC[20:47:54] *** xtrondo has quit IRC[20:49:18] *** CodeWar has quit IRC[20:51:04] *** forquare has quit IRC[20:53:27] *** turtle has quit IRC[20:53:46] *** swa_work has quit IRC[20:56:43] *** xapiens has quit IRC[20:57:01] *** turtle has joined #opensolaris[20:57:33] <eclark> okay, i can type blindly in the remote x terminal[20:58:04] <eclark> i googled the pty problem, and someone suggested 'chmod 666 /dev/ptmx'[20:58:12] <eclark> i don't have any ptmx entry[20:58:58] <eclark> i've got ptypX, ptyqX, and ptyrX...[21:00:32] *** skeeziks has joined #opensolaris[21:01:04] <skeeziks> Is there such a thing as a post-install script in the automated installer? I'd like to create a separate /var dataset before rebooting.[21:01:04] *** samc has joined #opensolaris[21:01:12] *** mustang has quit IRC[21:01:23] *** mustang has joined #opensolaris[21:02:21] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[21:02:47] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[21:02:56] <sstallion_work> gdamore: ping[21:06:02] *** ThePickle has quit IRC[21:06:05] <gdamore> ack[21:07:35] *** ivo_ has joined #opensolaris[21:08:32] *** n1c0b has joined #opensolaris[21:08:35] *** n1c0b has left #opensolaris[21:08:51] *** samc has quit IRC[21:08:53] <lewellyn> smrt: explain pty[21:08:53] <smrt> After updating a system running build 125 or earlier to any later build, you may have trouble opening terminal sessions (local and remote/ssh) because of missing device permission configuration. Edit /etc/minor_perm and run devfsadm to permanently fix this. See http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=12380 for details.[21:09:01] <lewellyn> eclark: seen that yet?[21:09:20] <sstallion_work> gdamore: took the job - sounds like I'll be starting in 2 weeks.[21:09:21] <eclark> yeah, i just now got that edited[21:09:28] <gdamore> congratulations![21:09:28] <lewellyn> sstallion_work: congrats :)[21:09:32] <sstallion_work> thanks guys :)[21:09:33] <eclark> how do i do a hard reboot?[21:09:39] <eclark> it looks like reboot does soft reboots now?[21:09:39] <lewellyn> eclark: "reboot"[21:09:41] <sstallion_work> Its safe enough to talk about now in the open ;)[21:09:57] <lewellyn> oh a hard reboot. dunno. i just hit the power button and let solaris shutdown[21:10:03] <eclark> alrighty[21:10:08] * eclark goes down to the basement again[21:10:14] <lewellyn> don't hold it in ;)[21:10:38] *** forquare has joined #opensolaris[21:10:40] * lewellyn goes back to playing with pxe[21:10:41] *** Calibellus has quit IRC[21:10:58] *** [ade]_ has joined #opensolaris[21:12:01] <[ade]_> 'ebes[21:12:12] <madwizard> Coffee[21:12:55] <[ade]_> or whatever's current)[21:13:08] <[ade]_> I've picked up Jignesh Shah's minimalish VBox image of 2009.06, and I'm trying to upgrade that to b134 or whatever's current.[21:13:16] * [ade]_ curses freenode webchat[21:13:30] *** turtle has quit IRC[21:14:10] *** PrickelPit has quit IRC[21:14:17] <[ade]_> in the logs of this channel from feb. 15th -- https://www.echelog.com/logs/browse/opensolaris/1266188400 -- there's advice to pkg set-publisher to dev, pkg refresh --full, then pkg install SUNWipkg[21:15:40] <[ade]_> i get "No matching package could be found for .. pkg:/library/pythoon-2/cherrypy at 3 dot 1.1.,5.11[21:16:03] <[ade]_> which stops me from upgrading pkg, which will stop me from doing image-update[21:16:22] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[21:16:50] <eclark> awesome, that worked![21:17:11] <eclark> now, if i could just figure out how to get X to use an english keyboard layout[21:18:28] *** tosh has joined #opensolaris[21:19:35] *** alanst has joined #opensolaris[21:19:42] <tsoome> eeprom keyboard-layout=UK-English ; init 6 ?[21:20:02] <tsoome> or US-English[21:20:16] *** hunter has joined #opensolaris[21:20:47] *** dajhorn has joined #opensolaris[21:23:13] <sstallion_work> eclark: kbd -s[21:23:16] <sstallion_work> tsoome: lazy.[21:25:32] *** elendal has joined #opensolaris[21:25:58] *** samc has joined #opensolaris[21:30:10] <[ade]_> perhaps i should phrase differently: given a VBox appliance running a minimal 2009.06, a b134 iso image and a working network connection from the applicance to the world, what's the easiest way to update the applicance to b134?[21:31:26] *** Plazma-Rooolz has quit IRC[21:32:17] *** Plazma-Rooolz has joined #opensolaris[21:33:50] <tomww> 21:15 * lewellyn goes back to playing with pxe[21:34:03] <tomww> sorry[21:35:14] *** turtle has joined #opensolaris[21:35:32] *** Plazma-Rooolz has quit IRC[21:36:22] *** jshsmn has left #opensolaris[21:39:55] *** Plazma has quit IRC[21:40:40] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[21:41:33] <eclark> kbd -s didn't do it :\[21:41:34] *** jthunder has joined #opensolaris[21:41:55] *** stewart has quit IRC[21:43:25] *** Tiggar has joined #opensolaris[21:44:08] *** Tiggar has quit IRC[21:44:51] *** Calibellus has joined #opensolaris[21:46:18] *** xapiens has joined #opensolaris[21:47:16] *** Tiggar_ has joined #opensolaris[21:47:38] <longcat> better be sorry[21:47:53] <Tiggar_> Hi, can someone please help me to install my wlan usb stick?[21:47:55] *** niq has quit IRC[21:48:37] <winstonw> Tiggar_: plug it in, there should be a driver utility or something, i forget the name[21:48:39] *** cudgel has quit IRC[21:48:50] <winstonw> also check dmesg[21:48:58] *** ma3x has joined #opensolaris[21:49:03] <winstonw> but the driver utility should tell you what support it has[21:49:24] <Tiggar_> winstonw: it's a avm usb wlan stick and it is recognized[21:49:39] <Tiggar_> winstonw: But I don't get an additional network device.[21:49:52] <Tiggar_> Device Driver Utility shows no errors.[21:50:07] *** astra-x has quit IRC[21:50:07] <winstonw> does it say what level of support?[21:50:11] <winstonw> I forgot how it works[21:50:43] *** perlmongo has joined #opensolaris[21:50:48] <Tiggar_> winstonw: what do you mean by "level of support"?[21:51:07] <winstonw> it says its supported, limited support, or not supported iirc[21:51:17] <[ade]_> plumb it, perhaps? i used to always forget that when fiddling around; don't know if it's still necessary.[21:52:52] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[21:52:54] <Tiggar_> winstonw: I don't see anything in the device driver utility which sounds like that. But the drivers name is usb_mid[21:53:24] <winstonw> sorry its been awhile lol[21:53:29] <winstonw> I should fire up OSOL sometime[21:54:16] <Triskelios> Tiggar_: usb_mid is a generic driver for raw access to the USB device. if your device requires a kernel driver it means it'[21:54:22] <Triskelios> s not supported[21:54:49] *** biant92 has left #opensolaris[21:54:53] <Tiggar_> Triskelios: So I need another driver for opensolaris I guess.[21:54:54] <Tiggar_> Damn.[21:55:41] *** gosx has quit IRC[21:55:54] *** corretico has quit IRC[21:56:17] *** gosx has joined #opensolaris[21:56:19] *** corretico has joined #opensolaris[21:58:03] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris[21:58:55] *** Andrew3 has joined #opensolaris[21:58:56] <jdoe> lol slashdot.[22:00:29] *** deet has quit IRC[22:01:03] *** scottdickson has quit IRC[22:05:28] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[22:07:30] <[ade]_> jdoe: well, the ogb call-for-action thread is an interesting read -- i say that as an external who's been trying to package popular free software things for osol for about 2.5 years[22:07:39] *** Jan has joined #opensolaris[22:10:42] *** Tiggar_ has quit IRC[22:11:00] *** jonshea has joined #opensolaris[22:11:53] *** Kustnamenkloate has joined #opensolaris[22:12:20] <tomww> [ade]_: any details about your packaging efforts?[22:12:37] <[ade]_> is it possible to install a small-ish osol off of, say, a b134 iso instead of the whole shebang including X?[22:13:18] * sstallion_work falls over.[22:13:23] <sstallion_work> gdamore: apparently you're on slashdot.[22:13:25] <Triskelios> [ade]_: not the regular live CD; you need the AI CD possibly with a custom manifest (the text installer also excludes X)[22:14:12] <Triskelios> sstallion_work: oh dear lord[22:14:16] <[ade]_> tomvw: solaris.kde.org -- although that webpage is horrifically outdated and you can get last month's kde 4.4.2 as IPS packages[22:15:08] *** J_P has joined #opensolaris[22:15:16] * [ade]_ reboots the vbox -- perhaps into b.134[22:15:29] <Triskelios> [ade]_: I'm a big fan of your work, even though I'm hesistant to switch back to KDE[22:16:54] <[ade]_> Triskelios: thx[22:17:08] * [ade]_ should have read the release / upgrade notes before rebooting[22:17:33] *** smrt has quit IRC[22:17:40] *** smrt has joined #opensolaris[22:17:49] *** samc has quit IRC[22:18:06] *** Yu\2 has joined #opensolaris[22:18:07] *** yippi has quit IRC[22:19:11] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[22:19:54] <tomww> [ade]_: thanks. already tried the test version of pkgbuild 1.3.102 ?[22:21:37] <gdamore> sstallion_work: yes I am. And unfortunately they badly misrepresented me.[22:21:38] <madwizard> smrt: And he is quoted as Oracle. :)[22:21:42] <madwizard> Yup[22:21:47] <sstallion_work> gdamore: no kidding.[22:22:00] <sstallion_work> makes me wonder who submitted that[22:22:27] <gdamore> i posted a clarification, but it doesn't show up... probably since I did as Anon Coward. (can't remember my slashdot password -- haven't used it in > 1 year)[22:22:45] <gdamore> If anyone sees my clarification, perhaps they could kindly mod it up?[22:22:59] <sstallion_work> I had an account from the mid-late nineties - I don't think I've ever actually used it.[22:23:09] <sstallion_work> which response was it?[22:23:18] <gdamore> I think it said "Clarification" in the title[22:23:32] *** mroconnor has quit IRC[22:24:01] <[ade]_> tomww: no, i think i got stuck at 1.3.98 or so, haven't updated pkgbuild recently. right now struggling to get a reasonably minimal osol in a vbox so i have something i can run pkg.depotd out of[22:24:49] *** achester has joined #opensolaris[22:24:57] <sstallion_work> hrmm not seeing it[22:25:22] * Triskelios logs into slashdot for the first time in years[22:25:56] <gdamore> Its way down near the end.[22:26:09] <gdamore> title is "Clarifications (I'm the quoted source)"[22:26:38] <sstallion_work> there we go[22:28:37] <sstallion_work> smrt: explain gdamore[22:28:38] <smrt> Didn't you know? gdamore is Oracle.[22:28:46] <gdamore> grr....[22:29:04] <sstallion_work> smrt: explain gdamore[22:29:04] <smrt> Didn't you know? gdamore is Oracle.[22:29:08] <sstallion_work> hrmm thats odd[22:29:20] <sstallion_work> smrt: explain gdamore[22:29:20] <smrt> gdamore == awesome[22:29:23] <sstallion_work> there we go[22:29:29] <sstallion_work> gdamore: too soon? ;)[22:29:53] <gdamore> yeah, maybe. i am still waiting for someone from the corp to call me and chew me out....[22:30:09] <jamesd_laptop> gdamore, is the person that removes lots and lots of code....[22:30:44] <gdamore> hmm.... maybe I should change my nick to "codereaper"[22:31:44] *** gjl has quit IRC[22:31:56] <sstallion_work> gdamore: hopefully not. I remember the email - being provocative is a good thing. there are entirely too many people out there who want the benefits of open source, but aren't willing to do the work necessary to make it happen. assuming open source == open development is a rather annoying aspect Linux has brought on.[22:32:25] <gdamore> the thing is, even linux isn't truly open development[22:32:30] <sstallion_work> *nod*[22:32:34] *** wdp_aao__ has quit IRC[22:32:37] *** deet has joined #opensolaris[22:32:59] <sstallion_work> "patches welcome" doesn't (and shouldn't!) mean "commit privileges"[22:33:11] <gdamore> *right*.[22:33:29] <sstallion_work> although there have to be way more ON contribs than just jbk and I[22:34:05] <gdamore> I was going to make some comment about the fact that i think most "contributors" would be entirely unwilling to put up with the onerous steps (intentionally onerous) that we have to go through to integrate into ON, but I decided against it.[22:34:25] *** lattera has quit IRC[22:34:31] <sstallion_work> I think anyone who does this for a living can appreciate the process.[22:34:32] *** wdp_aao__ has joined #opensolaris[22:34:32] <gdamore> in any case, there are not *that* many more ON contributors. I think there are maybe a half dozen to a dozen who have contributed more than one fix.[22:34:56] <sstallion_work> As much as I curse NICDRV, it does its job pretty well.[22:35:07] <gdamore> fsvo well.[22:35:16] <sstallion_work> fsvo?[22:35:17] *** kmays has joined #opensolaris[22:35:32] <sstallion_work> and navigating RTI is pretty easy with a sponsor provided you are willing to actually read the guidelines.[22:35:46] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris[22:35:53] <sstallion_work> yippi: around?[22:36:04] <yippi> what's up?[22:36:19] <sstallion_work> curious what it would take to get daap support into rhythmbox[22:36:46] <sstallion_work> if that has been left out for political/IP reasons, or if no one has really cared about it yet ;)[22:37:24] *** thistle__ has joined #opensolaris[22:37:43] <joshua_> gdamore, I have modded you up. others who wish to do so should mod up http://developers.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1621444&cid=31876224[22:37:55] <gdamore> thanks.[22:38:32] <joshua_> the slashdot FUD crew is in full force[22:39:16] *** Kurin has joined #opensolaris[22:39:40] *** gjl has joined #opensolaris[22:40:14] *** Mousk4r has quit IRC[22:40:26] *** jamesd_laptop has quit IRC[22:40:36] <Kurin> So, I have an LSI controller with 16 drives in it in a raidz2 array. The other day one of the drives died, so I removed it and swapped in a new drive. dmesg shows the new drive, but when I try to address it directly as c4t4d0p0 I get "No such device or address"[22:40:45] *** jamesd_laptop has joined #opensolaris[22:40:54] *** wdp_aao__ has quit IRC[22:40:58] <Kurin> and "format" only sees 15 of the drives[22:41:06] <Triskelios> gdamore: would you mind recovering your password and commenting?[22:41:27] <Kurin> is there some command I need to use to make the drive available to opensolaris?[22:41:33] <gdamore> what more would I say than what I already have?[22:41:43] <Kurin> I have rebooted twice already[22:42:01] <Triskelios> gdamore: just so it gets proper attribution[22:42:56] *** J_P has quit IRC[22:44:12] <Kurin> raidctl sees the drive and claims it's fine[22:46:17] *** wdp_aao__ has joined #opensolaris[22:46:24] <Triskelios> gdamore: (linking the post from your blog would work just as well)[22:47:26] <[ade]_> is it possible to pkg image-update to an intermediate version, like 129 instead of to the latest in /dev/ ?[22:51:20] <Triskelios> [ade]_: http://blogs.sun.com/observatory/entry/updating_to_a_specific_build[22:51:36] <gdamore> one internal person suggested I should just unsubscribe from ogb-discuss@.... apparently anything anyone at Oracle says can be misconstrued. Fscking /.[22:51:49] *** robo has quit IRC[22:52:22] *** hsp has quit IRC[22:52:29] *** Jan has quit IRC[22:55:25] <alanc> gdamore: slashdot miscontrues anything said by anyone in the world - it's what they do. Most of the commentors don't even read the stories, just flame away when their favorite hotbutton topic is mentioned[22:55:27] <CIA-21> Vikram Hegde <Vikram.Hegde at Sun dot COM>: 6943725 potential use of freed pointer in e_ddi_free_instance()[22:55:31] *** eldee has joined #opensolaris[22:55:53] <Kurin> so this isn't anything anyone has seen before?[22:56:16] <[ade]_> Triskelios: thanks, that's very useful[22:56:38] *** eldee has quit IRC[22:56:45] *** winstonw is now known as awesome_pizza[22:57:11] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[22:57:17] *** Burana has quit IRC[22:57:51] *** darrenb` has quit IRC[22:58:39] *** Tiggar has joined #opensolaris[22:58:58] *** Auth has joined #opensolaris[22:59:21] *** sndcrb has quit IRC[22:59:36] *** Auth has left #opensolaris[22:59:57] *** bobbyz has joined #opensolaris[23:00:33] *** Tiggar has quit IRC[23:00:38] *** Tiggar has joined #opensolaris[23:02:05] *** Burana has joined #opensolaris[23:03:52] *** stewart has quit IRC[23:04:08] *** xapiens has quit IRC[23:04:17] *** darrenb has joined #opensolaris[23:04:45] *** xapiens has joined #opensolaris[23:08:44] *** dalibor has joined #opensolaris[23:09:50] *** niq has quit IRC[23:10:29] *** dajhorn has quit IRC[23:11:55] *** lattera has joined #opensolaris[23:13:25] *** [ade]_ has quit IRC[23:15:11] <yippi> sstallion_work. I already added daap support to rhythmbox[23:15:37] <sstallion_work> yippi: thats great! any idea what build that integrated into?[23:15:45] <yippi> it will be in the next release. The problem was that it was being disabled due to GNOME bugzilla bug #447951, which was fixed already[23:15:46] <yippi> build 140[23:15:54] <sstallion_work> gotcha[23:18:02] *** wrapster has quit IRC[23:18:08] *** chairman_meow has joined #opensolaris[23:18:28] <chairman_meow> awesome_pizza: stop hating on oracle , freebsd fag[23:18:31] *** chairman_meow has left #opensolaris[23:19:24] <alanc> that was somewhat random[23:20:01] *** milek has joined #opensolaris[23:20:27] <sstallion_work> alanc: I guess slashdot brings the best out of everyone.[23:22:30] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[23:22:30] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[23:23:32] *** sysspoof_ has quit IRC[23:23:37] *** MattBenjamin has quit IRC[23:23:43] <tomww> q[23:24:59] *** propangu has left #opensolaris[23:28:53] *** not-me-guv has joined #opensolaris[23:28:53] *** not-me-guv has joined #opensolaris[23:28:57] <madwizard> Coffee[23:29:19] *** niq has quit IRC[23:32:15] *** kevinw_ has joined #opensolaris[23:33:06] *** xapiens_ has joined #opensolaris[23:33:24] *** dijenerate has quit IRC[23:35:04] *** xapiens has quit IRC[23:35:07] *** xapiens_ is now known as xapiens[23:43:23] *** Yu\2 has quit IRC[23:45:06] *** InTheWings has quit IRC[23:45:19] <ivo_> can someone help me on this:[23:45:20] <ivo_> http://pastebin.com/DjhhHYcm[23:45:24] *** InTheWings has joined #opensolaris[23:46:08] <ivo_> why is it not possible to set tha name I want to[23:46:16] <ivo_> and have to use the publishers name?[23:46:19] *** xapiens has quit IRC[23:46:39] *** projectmoon has joined #opensolaris[23:46:49] *** dijenerate has joined #opensolaris[23:48:38] <Triskelios> ivo_: publishers are part of the global namespace that uniquely identifies a package[23:48:41] *** synegy34 has quit IRC[23:48:58] <Triskelios> ivo_: they're not arbitrary strings[23:49:26] *** yippi has quit IRC[23:50:16] <ivo_> for example[23:50:17] <ivo_> http://solaris.homeunix.com/?q=node/33[23:50:26] <ivo_> I added the publisher as multimedia here[23:50:52] *** _madmax_ has joined #opensolaris[23:51:05] *** _madmax_ has left #opensolaris[23:51:07] <Triskelios> *shrug*, maybe that repo is configured differently[23:52:53] <ivo_> it is good to know[23:52:56] <ivo_> 10x for the info[23:53:45] *** Mdx4 has joined #opensolaris