March 29, 2009 
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March 29, 2009 [00:00:39] *** chrol has joined #opensolaris[00:01:51] <sickness> I'm back[00:02:42] *** chrol has left #opensolaris[00:02:57] <ry_laptop> of course...[00:03:14] <ry_laptop> zabbix doesn't want to configure properly with mysql without kludges... but works just fine with postgresql[00:05:26] *** MrNaz has quit IRC[00:05:34] <svcadm> personally, I prefer to use postgresql whenever I can[00:05:47] <lubed_guy> svcadm: yeh i heard its better[00:05:58] <svcadm> unfortunately most of the web code donkeys at work get scared if it's not mysql[00:07:09] *** fftb has quit IRC[00:08:27] <piwi> lubed_guy: does it work?[00:13:01] *** d6g is now known as d6g|away[00:13:30] <lubed_guy> piwi: what pg? bigtime[00:13:39] <lubed_guy> anyone knoe how I can reset root password[00:13:42] <piwi> lubed_guy: pfexec passwd root[00:13:49] <lubed_guy> just insalled 2008.05 and forgot damn root i set[00:13:50] <piwi> that was my question[00:13:50] <lubed_guy> damn ittt[00:13:53] <piwi> send it 0000[00:14:00] <piwi> send = sent[00:14:07] <svcadm> of course, technically .... there is no root ;)[00:14:18] <lubed_guy> for opensolaris[00:14:20] <lubed_guy> ?[00:14:26] <piwi> pfexec passwd root[00:14:28] *** derchris has quit IRC[00:14:28] <lubed_guy> not pg[00:14:29] <piwi> third time[00:14:32] <lubed_guy> oh[00:14:33] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[00:14:41] <svcadm> root is just a role, if you want to switch to "root", just do pfexec su -[00:15:13] <svcadm> assuming you have that pfexec right, of course ... which is you're using the account created at install time, you do[00:15:23] <svcadm> s/is/if[00:16:01] <lubed_guy> oh that worked[00:16:11] <lubed_guy> now whats to stop some bugger who hacks in from doing that?[00:16:35] *** twisti has quit IRC[00:16:35] <piwi> your account passwd[00:16:49] <lubed_guy> hm[00:17:01] <piwi> keep it as secret as a root passwd[00:17:13] <lubed_guy> ok say there is a user for a webserver[00:17:14] <piwi> or better: create a second user[00:17:19] <lubed_guy> and that gets compromised[00:17:33] <lubed_guy> you make sure the webserver cant do it?[00:17:35] <piwi> webserver user should not have root role rights[00:17:45] <lubed_guy> ah ok[00:19:26] <piwi> try this one: http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/4844-Less-known-Solaris-features-pfexec.html[00:20:04] <piwi> and don't miss the RBAC link[00:20:35] <piwi> or even better start with this one: http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/archives/4073-Less-known-Solaris-features-RBAC-and-Privileges-Part-1-Introduction.html[00:20:37] *** tosh has quit IRC[00:23:45] <lubed_guy> k00l[00:25:40] *** kate21de has quit IRC[00:26:56] *** kate21de has joined #opensolaris[00:27:13] <svcadm> lubed_guy: if you want to know what the different profiles can do, look at /etc/security/prof_attr[00:27:28] *** kate21de has quit IRC[00:27:30] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[00:27:55] <lubed_guy> hm seems dhcp is not running[00:27:59] <lubed_guy> I have ncie gnoem desktop[00:28:13] <lubed_guy> and admin says when nvam magic is enable you can't do network[00:28:15] <lubed_guy> or something[00:28:21] <lubed_guy> how can i switch dhcp on?[00:29:58] <svcadm> If you have nwam running, it will use dhcpagent by default.[00:30:31] <lubed_guy> hm. can't ping google[00:30:35] <lubed_guy> firefox wont bring up[00:30:37] <lubed_guy> hm[00:31:36] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[00:33:19] <lubed_guy> hysical network autoconfig is checked in services[00:33:23] <lubed_guy> physical[00:33:37] <lubed_guy> I named my box ixor[00:33:45] <lubed_guy> do I have to put that in /etc/hosts maybe[00:33:52] <lubed_guy> I named it during the install..[00:33:57] <lubed_guy> 2008.05[00:38:40] <CosmicDJ> is your nic supported?[00:38:40] *** mega_ has joined #opensolaris[00:39:35] *** Rocket2DMn has joined #opensolaris[00:39:40] *** nage_ has left #opensolaris[00:39:47] *** gil has joined #opensolaris[00:40:05] <lubed_guy> should be very common nic[00:40:11] <lubed_guy> old p4 1.6ghz box[00:40:14] <lubed_guy> 768m ram[00:40:22] <lubed_guy> leme see what type it is[00:41:06] <lubed_guy> 3com 90XX[00:41:20] <lubed_guy> dmesg does say int 23 is being shared and this can be a problem[00:41:25] <lubed_guy> hm[00:42:00] <CosmicDJ> I'd first try to find out if you nic really is supported[00:43:13] <lubed_guy> unable to get interface falgs for elxl0[00:43:15] <lubed_guy> uh oh[00:43:16] <lubed_guy> ok[00:43:33] <lubed_guy> what is a command like lspci in linux to see the human readbale name fo the card?[00:43:43] *** Ayatolla has quit IRC[00:45:40] *** ikarius has quit IRC[00:45:46] *** ikarius_ has joined #opensolaris[00:46:00] <Zikla> Topic: The answer to "I do $foo on *ux, how do I do it on Solaris" is http://bhami.com/rosetta.html[00:47:36] *** ikarius_ has quit IRC[00:47:47] *** ikarius has joined #opensolaris[00:48:11] *** Ayatolla has joined #opensolaris[00:52:39] <gil> hi all - is there much of a difference between blastwave and extras? They both seem to serve the same purpose....[00:52:55] *** kleppari has quit IRC[00:53:04] *** kleppari has joined #opensolaris[00:53:17] <phaedrus5> handy, that rosetta, but it says 'psrinfo -v' is solaris-speak for 'lspci -v', and (unsurprisingly) that doesn't work for me.[00:55:25] <lubed_guy> heh[00:55:35] <tsoome> ?[00:55:36] <lubed_guy> yeah i jsut tried all of them one by 1[00:55:43] <Zikla> Spec Files Extra or the Sun Extras IPS repository?[00:55:48] <lubed_guy> and I can't find a printout of english names of pci devices[00:55:53] *** mega has quit IRC[00:56:20] <lubed_guy> I am really jsut trying to get dhcp to work[00:56:26] <lubed_guy> then upgrade to 2008.11[00:56:30] <lubed_guy> and go from there[00:56:40] <Zikla> Why not use 2008.11 in the first place?[00:56:59] <lubed_guy> I startde the install on the box with the cd burned[00:57:00] <CosmicDJ> lubed_guy: why don't you just type "ifconfig -a" ; if there's more then lo0, your nic is probably supported[00:57:02] <lubed_guy> burner[00:57:15] <CosmicDJ> s/then/than/[00:57:55] <lubed_guy> two lo0 and one elxl0[00:58:18] <CosmicDJ> lubed_guy: and elxl0 got an IP?[00:58:32] <lubed_guy> dmesg says soem stuff about unable to get interface flags for elxl0[00:58:34] <lubed_guy> ...[00:58:38] <lubed_guy> no[00:59:13] <phaedrus5> "yo in e heap o trouble, boy"[01:00:10] <lubed_guy> ah my room mate unplugged me[01:00:15] <lubed_guy> sonova bitch[01:00:28] <lubed_guy> howto restart dhcp for that interface?[01:00:41] <lubed_guy> admin gui --- physical network automagic off on?[01:01:23] <lubed_guy> what a punk[01:01:31] <svcadm> LOL ... yeah, that should work[01:01:34] <lubed_guy> wow I have some learnin to do on sol[01:01:46] <lubed_guy> the network part says I cant do anything due to nvam[01:01:53] <lubed_guy> so I am going into 'services' gui[01:02:01] <lubed_guy> or someone can tell me the commadn line :)[01:02:15] <svcadm> services?[01:02:41] <svcadm> connection properties -> General tab -> uncheck "Configure network automatically", then check it again.[01:03:12] <svcadm> or svcadm restart physical:nwam[01:03:40] *** Aviatorcmd has joined #opensolaris[01:04:24] *** Ayatolla is now known as Ayatolla|afk[01:04:55] <glock> I have a question that's not really specific to opensolaris but I'll ask anyway[01:05:07] <lubed_guy> where is the general tab?[01:05:18] <lubed_guy> or connection properties[01:05:25] <glock> I've been messing with ipfilter and see that I am getting a lot of ACK packets (from russia/china) without SYNs[01:05:49] <glock> I want to log all successful connection attempts[01:05:53] <glock> would it be sufficient to log only SYNs?[01:06:07] <glock> or all these dropped ACK attempts going to somehow get through?[01:07:22] *** gm152 has joined #opensolaris[01:07:38] <lubed_guy> the svcadm command worked :)[01:08:26] <svcadm> cool :)[01:10:15] *** lewq has joined #opensolaris[01:12:01] *** mikefut has quit IRC[01:12:51] <gil> Can anyone tell me if the blastwave servers are working for them? I'm having problems adding http://blastwave.network.com:10000/[01:14:36] *** Akoda has joined #opensolaris[01:15:57] *** Zikla has quit IRC[01:15:58] *** ehf has joined #opensolaris[01:15:58] <svcadm> I was able to add the repository, and get a list with pkg list -a[01:16:08] *** Akoda is now known as Zikla[01:16:11] *** Akoda has joined #opensolaris[01:17:13] *** jzmer has joined #opensolaris[01:17:23] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[01:18:01] <gil> svcadm how did you add the repository? 'pfexec pkg set-authority -O http://blastwave.network.com:10000 blastwave' is failing for me with timed out errors :-\[01:19:20] *** Akoda has quit IRC[01:19:54] *** wbkang has quit IRC[01:19:55] <svcadm> gil: pfexec pkg set-authority -O http://blastwave.network.com:10000/ blastwave[01:20:23] <gil> ahhhh got it[01:20:32] <gil> thanks svcadm - I think I had an extra 0 in the port :D[01:20:49] <svcadm> gil: hehehe ... that'll do it. ;)[01:21:00] <Zikla> Looks more like it was the missing / at the end :P[01:21:07] <svcadm> the / isn't necessary[01:21:23] <Zikla> Then they look identical to me[01:22:20] *** enumerate has quit IRC[01:22:20] <svcadm> Zikla: right, what he typed in channel wasn't what he typed in his shell ... which is probably how he spotted the typo in the shell[01:22:37] <svcadm> Zikla: at least, that's my guest[01:22:37] *** nage_ has joined #opensolaris[01:22:40] <svcadm> s/guest/guess[01:23:08] <gil> svcadm 10 points![01:23:25] <gil> and no points for me for not reading my terminal window properly[01:23:30] *** ranks has joined #opensolaris[01:25:00] <svcadm> hehehehe ... I've done that more times than I like to admit[01:26:47] *** C_Kode has quit IRC[01:27:35] *** Ayat0lla|afk has joined #opensolaris[01:27:48] *** Dorfo has joined #opensolaris[01:28:04] *** oiled_guy has joined #opensolaris[01:28:13] <Dorfo> hi there, is the sunstudio the pkg that contains /opt/onbld?[01:28:15] *** gehmehgeh has quit IRC[01:28:45] <CosmicDJ> Dorfo: nope[01:29:20] <samc> basename dir opt/onbld pkg:/SUNWonbld at 0 dot 5.11-0.110[01:29:39] <Dorfo> strange i cant donwload it..[01:29:47] <Dorfo> when i do pkg install SUNwonbld[01:29:50] <Dorfo> SUNW[01:30:19] <Dorfo> its only for the current?[01:30:19] <gil> Dorfo what release are you using?[01:30:31] <Dorfo> 1108[01:31:10] <gil> the new dev build?[01:31:13] <Dorfo> i need those to compile the wifi drivers[01:31:26] <Dorfo> i dunno i just got an image from genunix.org[01:31:34] <gil> right I got caught out[01:31:39] <CosmicDJ> gil: I guess that's 2008.11[01:31:42] <Dorfo> which was the 0811[01:31:47] <Dorfo> yeah[01:31:48] <gil> oh never mind then[01:31:55] <Dorfo> why?[01:32:09] <gil> because I spent a whole day trying to work out why it wouldn't install Samba stuff when I could see it[01:32:21] <gil> turns out the latest builds don't automatically set the dev repository[01:32:33] <gil> so it wouldn't install as I was looking at an old version in the release repository[01:32:40] <svcadm> heh ... nice[01:33:04] <Dorfo> so it will not work at all[01:33:06] <Dorfo> ?[01:33:46] <Dorfo> i was with snv_109 but i got stuck in some dependencies like gcc[01:34:36] <oiled_guy> my gnoem desktop is laggy on my 2008.05 new install[01:34:45] <oiled_guy> kinda pasuses[01:34:50] <svcadm> 2008.05? that's a bit behind the curve[01:34:57] *** BobbyBee has quit IRC[01:35:03] <svcadm> you should start with 2008.11[01:35:04] <oiled_guy> and I cant really get a good top-ish output of how many m free ram[01:35:10] *** cri__ has joined #opensolaris[01:35:11] <Dorfo> which build do you guys recommend?[01:35:22] <oiled_guy> ok[01:35:30] <oiled_guy> should I burn cd and reinstall?[01:35:33] <oiled_guy> or upgrade?[01:35:38] <CosmicDJ> oiled_guy: how much ram?[01:35:45] <oiled_guy> 768[01:35:47] <oiled_guy> m[01:35:52] <oiled_guy> and p4 1.6ghz[01:36:00] <svcadm> Dorfo: depends on what you want[01:36:09] <oiled_guy> I could dump gnome for iceWM[01:36:12] <CosmicDJ> oiled_guy: that's barely minimum for zfs I'd say[01:36:15] <oiled_guy> if opensol has it[01:36:15] <svcadm> oiled_guy: I would reinstall if you don't have anything customized[01:36:23] <oiled_guy> ok[01:36:28] <Dorfo> svcadm: for production[01:36:31] <oiled_guy> leme see if the cdburner in gnome is woring[01:36:32] <Dorfo> its on a laptop[01:36:40] <oiled_guy> desktop[01:36:41] <Dorfo> with 2gb ram 160gb disk etc...[01:36:47] <Dorfo> just for studying[01:36:49] <svcadm> Dorfo: for my workstation(s), I use the latest dev (snv_110 at the moment), for my servers I use the latest official release 2008.11 (snv_101)[01:37:12] <Dorfo> but i need a version that works with all dependencies that i need...[01:37:28] <svcadm> Dorfo: what dependencies do you need?[01:37:37] <Dorfo> gcc flex and onbld[01:37:40] <Dorfo> to build ndis[01:37:49] <Dorfo> and i might try OSS[01:37:51] <Dorfo> for sound[01:37:56] <svcadm> Dorfo: if they're available in 2008.11, they'll be available in the dev repo[01:37:57] <Dorfo> i have a hp2133[01:38:25] <Dorfo> last time i wanted to install the gcc package[01:38:25] <Dorfo> i got an error[01:38:35] <gil> svcadm could he do a pkg image-update to 2008 11, so then he has two boot environments to compare gnome performance?[01:38:41] <Dorfo> something like the match was not found[01:39:01] *** piwi has quit IRC[01:39:16] <Dorfo> as i am a newbie in opensolaris i dunno how to deal with pkg at all[01:39:23] <svcadm> gil: that's a pretty decent idea, if he's interested in comparing the two ... my suspicion is if the problem goes away there will be mucho happiness and less concern about what the issue is/was ;)[01:39:25] <Dorfo> just simple features yet[01:39:37] <gil> heh :)[01:39:47] <svcadm> Dorfo: I don't use gcc if I can help it, personally, but it's definitely installable and usable[01:40:25] <Dorfo> may a set the dev rep here?[01:40:29] <svcadm> Dorfo: you might want to consider installing the metapackage ... gcc-dev[01:40:57] <Dorfo> it might be an idea let me see here[01:41:00] <svcadm> Dorfo: unable to parse that last question .... segfault[01:41:32] *** neoxed has quit IRC[01:42:00] <Dorfo> is possible to run this dev rep here?[01:42:26] <svcadm> Dorfo: if I understand what you're asking ... sure, just add the dev repository, and set it as the preferred repository[01:42:35] <svcadm> Dorfo: and then pkg image-update[01:42:46] <gil> Dorfo but if you set the dev repository as preferred, it may want you to update other stuff too at the same time, but yeah it is possible[01:43:42] *** ranks has quit IRC[01:43:48] <Dorfo> and i can upgrade anytime or any new release i have to do a fresh install?[01:44:35] <Dorfo> i mean... i am in 2008.11, so if i want to upgrade to build snv_110... is it possible?[01:44:39] <svcadm> oh no, upgrade is just a pkg image-update away, and if it doesn't work, you just boot into the previous instance, since it installs the upgrade into zfs clone'd filesystem[01:45:23] <Dorfo> hmmm[01:45:25] <svcadm> Dorfo: yep ... make the dev authority your preferred, and pkg image-update .. if you don't like it, boot into the previous one[01:45:45] <Dorfo> so i have to enable thos zfs snapshots[01:46:08] <svcadm> Dorfo: nope ... but zfs snapshots are your friend ;)[01:46:30] <Dorfo> its because i am new to these specific resources...[01:46:45] <svcadm> Dorfo: understood ... we all start somewhere[01:46:49] <gil> Dorfo it'll automatically set a snapshot up for you, you can choose what you boot into from tthe grub menu at boot time[01:47:05] <Dorfo> hmmm[01:47:08] <Dorfo> that is great[01:47:16] <Dorfo> so what is the dev repository?[01:47:19] <svcadm> LOL .. hell yeah, it is :)[01:47:34] <svcadm> http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/[01:47:45] <Dorfo> and just doing a pkg image-update and i am there?[01:47:46] <Dorfo> hehhehe[01:48:01] <oiled_guy> so 768 ram is not enuf for opensolaris w zfs?[01:48:06] <oiled_guy> gnome is kinda laggy[01:48:27] <Dorfo> oiled_guy: i think the all environment is too heavy for only 768m ram[01:48:35] <gil> oiled_guy yeah you'll struggle with that ram[01:48:38] <Dorfo> ' heavy'[01:48:47] *** cri__ has quit IRC[01:48:49] *** Ayatolla|afk has quit IRC[01:49:02] <svcadm> oiled_guy: enough? well ... it will run ... I wouldn't want to use it, though[01:49:23] <svcadm> Dorfo: yep, be sure to set the dev authority as the preferred one before you image-update[01:49:27] <Dorfo> with 2gigs here i am feeling laggy hehehe[01:49:44] <Dorfo> how i do this? in the text manner[01:49:45] <Tempt> Dude. I find GNOME laggy on my machine, and it has 20GB.[01:49:52] <Dorfo> ehehe i am not such fan of GUIs[01:49:59] <svcadm> Tempt: jeeeeeezuz[01:50:06] <gil> try running gnome on a PS3 with 256MB[01:50:09] <Tempt> I'd swear you could run GNOME on a loaded M9000-64, and it'd still feel laggy.[01:50:20] <gil> you have to disable just about everything in the world just to get something that responds within an hour[01:50:23] <oiled_guy> yeah i can easily drop gnome for iceWM[01:50:33] <svcadm> Dorfo: pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev -P opensolaris-dev[01:50:33] <oiled_guy> does opensol have icewm packages?[01:50:44] <Dorfo> i would like xfce here hehehe[01:50:47] <Dorfo> honestly[01:50:57] *** mega_ has quit IRC[01:51:03] <gil> svcadm do you need a pfexec on the beginning of that line?[01:51:05] <svcadm> oiled_guy: not offically, but it should compile just fine[01:51:25] <svcadm> gil: heh ... details, details ;)[01:51:35] <gil> :p[01:51:43] <Tempt> svcadm: points for the nick, too.[01:51:51] <svcadm> LOL ... I couldn't believe it wasn't taken[01:52:02] <Dorfo> ehehe[01:52:19] <gil> okay before I start frigging with source, does anyone know of a pre-built mediatomb package?[01:52:40] <Dorfo> gil: i use it on my freebsd[01:52:55] <Dorfo> do you have a ps3?[01:53:00] <gil> Dorfo cool, and yes I do[01:53:27] <Dorfo> cool what games do you play there?[01:53:29] <Dorfo> on psn[01:54:02] <gil> Dorfo why not /msg me so we don't spam opensolaris with PS3 chat :)[01:54:18] <Dorfo> yeah[01:54:19] * Tempt steps back in amazement.[01:54:20] <Dorfo> :p[01:56:04] <Tempt> Anyway, fluxbox is the one true window manager, and that certainly doesn't lag.[01:56:12] *** rovalent has joined #opensolaris[01:56:36] <Dorfo> do you guys know if later releases will come with different WMs?[01:56:37] <svcadm> fluxbox is the best, really[01:56:53] <svcadm> Dorfo: personally, I doubt it[01:57:19] <Dorfo> i saw something about xfce project into it[01:57:32] *** ricardo-vlh has quit IRC[01:58:04] <Tempt> It's so easy to integrate your own lightweight environments like fluxbox. And remember, nothing stops you releasing your own packages.[01:58:07] <svcadm> Dorfo: it's a support issue ... somebody will roll a pkg, or you can compile it yourself, but official support is a bit different.[01:58:17] <gil> svcadm any ideas why everything I try to install from blastwave fails with a permissions error on //opt/csw/lib/i386 ?[01:58:28] <Tempt> The guys over at blastwave.org have probably already cooked it up, anyway.[01:58:30] <svcadm> gil: dunno dude, I don't use blastwave[01:58:37] <Dorfo> is this blastwave a trusted src?[01:58:41] <Tempt> and the place to ask questions about blastwave is #blastwave[01:58:56] <gil> Tempt thanks[01:59:00] <Tempt> Dorfo: Trusted enough.[01:59:11] <svcadm> heh, indeed[01:59:42] *** spiki has joined #opensolaris[01:59:50] <Dorfo> still... i need to learn alot more before trying these[03:00:08] <svcadm> Dorfo: just be glad it's not Java Desktop ;)[03:00:21] <Dorfo> i only prefer to trust at the main repositories[03:00:36] <Dorfo> ahaha yeah[03:01:29] <Dorfo> brb[03:02:04] <Tempt> Dorfo: The guys at blastwave have been cranking out Solaris packages for ... years.[03:02:48] *** communicator has quit IRC[03:04:35] <DesiJat> i dunno how that guy can afford his bandwidth bill[03:04:37] *** svcadm_ has joined #opensolaris[03:04:39] <DesiJat> (blastwave)[03:04:46] <trichobezoar> i enabled time slider then rebooted. devfsadm kept hanging. trussed it, it was repeatedly going over some snapshot[03:06:15] *** svcadm is now known as Guest98858[03:06:45] *** svcadm_ is now known as svcadm[03:07:36] * svcadm shakes fist at the power company[03:07:42] <Tempt> Ouchies.[03:07:52] <Tempt> Time to buy a UPS?[03:08:09] <oiled_guy> 47 min until 2008.11[03:08:29] <svcadm> Tempt: apparently I plugged the DSL piece into the "surge protection" plug instead of the "battery backup" plug *doh!*[03:08:40] *** ggeecko has quit IRC[03:08:50] <Tempt> svcadm: Oops.[03:09:21] *** Dorfo has quit IRC[03:09:39] <Tempt> svcadm: Power has been pretty clean around here lately, last fault was over three years ago.[03:09:56] <Tempt> (as determined by checking uptime on a non-UPS'd device)[03:10:32] <Tempt> mex-c2950-01 uptime is 3 years, 34 weeks, 1 day, 13 hours, 9 minutes[03:10:48] <svcadm> Tempt: it doesn't go out a lot here, but when the weather gets vigorous flickers are common[03:11:00] *** Kvsh- has joined #opensolaris[03:11:46] <svcadm> Tempt: 3 years ... nice[03:11:56] <Tempt> Two seconds is all it takes to get annoying.[03:12:33] <Tempt> Although I think the daktari could probably cruise through that on power supply capacitors.[03:12:34] <svcadm> yes indeed[03:12:42] <svcadm> heh[03:12:45] *** Dorfo has joined #opensolaris[03:13:55] *** cwebber has joined #opensolaris[03:14:00] <Dorfo> i am really considering to install the 110 here[03:14:11] <Tempt> 110?[03:14:16] <Dorfo> snv_110[03:14:19] <Tempt> aah.[03:14:32] <Dorfo> i dunno if its a good choice indeed[03:14:42] <Dorfo> the ndis may not work[03:14:43] <Tempt> Don't look at me, everything I care about is running Solaris 10.[03:14:43] <svcadm> Dorfo: if you don't like it, just boot into the old environment[03:15:24] <gil> it's at least '1' better than snv_109 :D[03:15:31] <svcadm> HA[03:15:32] <Dorfo> svcadm: how?[03:15:33] *** cwebber has quit IRC[03:15:54] <svcadm> Dorfo: at the grub menu, pick the other environment[03:16:07] <Dorfo> cuz its saying here to upgrade the ipkg[03:16:22] <Dorfo> but i get time outs all the time[03:16:32] <svcadm> Dorfo: time outs?[03:16:41] <Dorfo> yeah[03:16:46] <Dorfo> transfer from... timed out[03:16:50] <Dorfo> 4 times[03:16:58] <Dorfo> and then i run twice[03:17:03] <Dorfo> get it twice[03:17:04] <Dorfo> and there we go[03:17:33] *** SpyKee has joined #opensolaris[03:18:15] <svcadm> Dorfo: hrm ... dunno, I just ran a: pfexec pkg refresh --full, which completed successfully[03:18:40] *** sactodave has quit IRC[03:20:58] *** NoFX_SBC has quit IRC[03:21:17] <gil> Dorfo this might help http://dlc.sun.com/osol/docs/content/IPS/ggfwk.html[03:21:35] <oiled_guy> what do you do to see amount of free memory in megs in sol?[03:21:41] <ipfw> os2008.11 update from b109 to b110 is giving me issues, when logging into a gnome session it core dumps and reboots the box, anyone had similar issues or a clue to why it is doing this ?[03:21:43] <oiled_guy> liek free -m in linux[03:22:00] <oiled_guy> prstat shows cpu kinda[03:22:01] *** Guest98858 has quit IRC[03:26:21] <gil> oiled_guy apparently 'echo "::memstat" | mdb -k' as root does it[03:30:08] *** phaedrus5 has quit IRC[03:33:05] *** Kvsh- has left #opensolaris[03:34:24] <oiled_guy> hm[03:34:26] <oiled_guy> 31m free[03:34:28] <oiled_guy> not good[03:34:33] <oiled_guy> wow kernel taking liek 250m[03:36:13] *** spiki has quit IRC[03:36:45] *** ehf has left #opensolaris[03:37:28] *** Gekz has quit IRC[03:38:24] <oiled_guy> must be zfs[03:38:32] <oiled_guy> anon taking 380m[03:38:35] <oiled_guy> I bet gnome a lot[03:38:38] <oiled_guy> friggin gnome[03:38:50] <oiled_guy> 759m total[03:40:43] *** nage_ has left #opensolaris[03:42:37] <ry_laptop> jesus got zabbix running finally[03:42:41] <ry_laptop> took most of the day :/[03:42:48] <ry_laptop> quirky system.[03:45:55] *** Dorfo has quit IRC[03:50:37] <oiled_guy> how do I get a c compiler working on sol[03:50:41] <oiled_guy> I want to compiel iceWM[03:50:44] <oiled_guy> dump gnome[03:51:32] *** nage_ has joined #opensolaris[03:51:46] *** rovalent has quit IRC[03:52:43] *** ikarius_ has joined #opensolaris[03:53:57] <oiled_guy> pkg:/IPSicewm at 0 dot 5.11,5.10-2.6:20080514T163051Z blastwave has icewm[03:54:01] <oiled_guy> interesting[03:54:07] <oiled_guy> hows it setup?[03:54:21] <oiled_guy> http://blastwave.network.com:10000/[03:54:46] *** fridim_ has joined #opensolaris[03:55:09] *** kd5pbo has joined #opensolaris[03:55:23] *** ikarius__ has joined #opensolaris[03:56:25] <ipfw> os2008.11 update from b109 to b110 is giving me issues, when logging into a gnome session it core dumps and reboots the box, anyone had similar issues or a clue to why it is doing this ?[03:56:36] *** ikarius has quit IRC[03:56:49] <oiled_guy> no idea[03:57:03] <kd5pbo> So, last time I booted my computer, it gave me a grub prompt.[03:57:03] <oiled_guy> how do list processes by memory consumed?[03:57:03] *** fftb has joined #opensolaris[03:57:17] <kd5pbo> oiled_guy: top, then hit m[03:57:22] <kd5pbo> oiled_guy: Maybe M[03:57:53] *** myosound_ has joined #opensolaris[03:58:04] <oiled_guy> top isnt installed[03:58:08] <kd5pbo> root (hd0,1), chainloader +1, makeactive, boot didn't help[03:58:30] <kd5pbo> oiled_guy: There's a switch for prstat, but I can't look right now as I can't get my laptop to boot.[03:58:59] *** myosound has quit IRC[03:59:27] <kd5pbo> oiled_guy: -s rss[04:00:02] *** SQlvpapir has quit IRC[04:00:26] <gil> oiled_guy - blastwave how-to: http://ultravioletos.blogspot.com/2008/05/opensolaris-and-blastwave.html[04:03:29] *** daedaluz has joined #opensolaris[04:05:12] <kd5pbo> A ha.[04:05:32] <kd5pbo> It seems part of my problem may be that I powercycled the machine.[04:05:48] <kd5pbo> This would have caused the the HD to not have been synced.[04:06:00] <kd5pbo> Grub gives me an Error 16.[04:06:45] <kd5pbo> I can, however boot into windows.[04:06:51] <kd5pbo> Is there a ZFS driver for windows out there?[04:07:03] *** phrost is now known as phrost6[04:08:57] <svcadm> kd5pbo: not a chance[04:09:17] <kd5pbo> Rats.[04:09:28] <kd5pbo> Is there any way to boot from grub?[04:09:49] <kd5pbo> Perhaps using a previous boot environment?[04:11:17] *** phrost6 is now known as phrost[04:13:11] <oiled_guy> ok[04:13:21] <oiled_guy> where is the cd burner for openslaris?[04:13:31] <oiled_guy> gnoem has a ripper[04:14:03] <svcadm> oiled_guy: cdrecord[04:14:42] *** g4lt-lappy has joined #opensolaris[04:14:48] <oiled_guy> oh[04:15:15] *** ikarius_ has quit IRC[04:15:30] *** phrost is now known as phrost6[04:15:34] <oiled_guy> can someone give me the syntax one liner to rip the iso i downaoded?>[04:15:38] <oiled_guy> I mean burn[04:15:40] <oiled_guy> lol[04:15:53] <oiled_guy> cdrecord something switch nameof.iso[04:16:27] <PinkFreud> man cdrecord[04:16:45] <kd5pbo> cdrecord dev=<dev> <iso>[04:20:31] *** fftb_ has joined #opensolaris[04:20:34] <oiled_guy> I ran it with cdrecord iso and its running,[04:21:11] <oiled_guy> heh[04:21:17] <oiled_guy> usr/bin/cdrecord.bin: WARNING: Drive returns wrong startsec (0) using -150[04:22:18] <oiled_guy> there is some hd and cd activity but no progress bar[04:22:20] <oiled_guy> hmm[04:23:09] <oiled_guy> how do I find the device?[04:23:42] <oiled_guy> dev=4,0,0. oh wait here this attempt lists it[04:24:00] <oiled_guy> no % done on command line after that error[04:24:01] *** todd has joined #opensolaris[04:24:03] <oiled_guy> hmm[04:24:08] <oiled_guy> wonder if its working or no[04:24:26] <kd5pbo> Next time, add a few -v's.[04:24:31] <PinkFreud> oiled_guy: that's because you didn't tell it to give you verbose output.[04:24:44] <oiled_guy> ha!![04:24:53] <oiled_guy> so you think its working eh[04:24:55] <oiled_guy> awesome[04:24:57] <PinkFreud> oiled_guy: typically, reading the man page will help with this, as it'll give you an idea of what you can do via arguments.[04:25:12] <todd> Hey,all.I want to install opensolaris on my dual system machine(win and linux),but it showed me not all I/O completed again and again and then reboot,any ideas?[04:25:14] <PinkFreud> this, of course, would be why I recommended doing 'man cdrecord'[04:25:22] <oiled_guy> finding the device was the sticky pat, then i read it will try n find ti automatically so i ran it[04:25:28] <oiled_guy> totally forgot -v[04:25:43] <kd5pbo> todd: What said not all I/O completed?[04:26:22] <todd> I dont's know ,after prompt the 4 3 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 ...[04:26:41] <oiled_guy> ok here goes nothing gents[04:26:48] <oiled_guy> new 2008.11 iso[04:29:33] <todd> I can see the grub menu,and the hit the first option![04:29:57] *** oiled_guy has quit IRC[04:32:42] <lubed_guy> ok[04:33:08] *** GNUix has joined #opensolaris[04:33:10] <lubed_guy> rebooted into 2008.11, picked keyboard and lang, and now it says opensoalris console login?????? what sthis? before it put me into an installer[04:34:38] <bda> It's waiting for X to start.[04:34:42] <bda> Detecting video cards, etc.[04:34:56] <trichobezoar> did you choose text boot?[04:35:13] <lubed_guy> no[04:35:25] <lubed_guy> I was back on this box while it booted[04:35:33] <lubed_guy> should i reboot?[04:36:05] <trichobezoar> log in and read the X log[04:36:20] <trichobezoar> jack/jack pfexec gdm maybe... or startx[04:36:38] <trichobezoar> it should default to graphical. so...[04:36:56] <lubed_guy> what is the login?[04:36:57] <lubed_guy> hm[04:37:07] <trichobezoar> jack/jack[04:38:58] <lubed_guy> oh[04:39:45] <lubed_guy> ok im in[04:40:26] <trichobezoar> did it ever start before?[04:40:47] <lubed_guy> http://dlc.sun.com/osol/docs/content/2008.11/getstart/sliminstall.html ima dope i see it now[04:40:51] <lubed_guy> gui coming up[04:40:58] <lubed_guy> says jack right there lol[04:41:52] *** fftb_ has quit IRC[04:44:57] *** fridim_ has quit IRC[04:45:42] *** todd has quit IRC[04:56:43] <lubed_guy> skype working on opensolaris?[04:59:18] *** Asad2005_ has quit IRC[05:06:18] <Zikla> Nope[05:06:27] <Zikla> Unless in an lx zone[05:07:02] <Zikla> My way of getting skype to work is to run a headless Ubuntu VM and ssh -X into it :/[05:07:33] <Zikla> No sound that way, though I've seen ways to do it by using an old version in an lx zone[05:13:23] <lubed_guy> bumr[05:13:40] <lubed_guy> does the package manager allow em to remove gnoem and all its crap?[05:13:43] <lubed_guy> recursively?[05:14:02] <lubed_guy> I want only iceWM[05:14:12] <lubed_guy> which has a backage on balstwave thank poseidon[05:20:55] <lubed_guy> ok so I have to learn howto get these package tools going[05:21:00] <lubed_guy> and learn everything about solaris[05:21:09] <lubed_guy> I dont even know howto do network stuff[05:21:11] <lubed_guy> heh[05:21:21] <lubed_guy> I do know shell stuff[05:21:23] <lubed_guy> from linux[05:21:34] <lubed_guy> but all the command switches differ so ill be using rozetta[05:21:53] <lubed_guy> if I folow along the docs I should be ok riht?[05:28:51] *** nachox has quit IRC[05:29:32] *** d6g|away is now known as d6g[05:31:34] *** taltamir has quit IRC[05:32:27] <Zikla> Trust the man pages before the rosetta[05:32:35] <lubed_guy> ok[05:32:44] <lubed_guy> prstat -s size is nice[05:32:56] <lubed_guy> now to what extent can I ditch gnome?[05:33:07] <lubed_guy> the book being sold on opensols ite goes on n on about gnome[05:33:09] <lubed_guy> heh[05:33:13] <lubed_guy> I liek iceWM[05:33:19] <Zikla> I like KDE :P[05:33:19] <lubed_guy> everythign is doible on commadn line?[05:33:39] <lubed_guy> I mainly worry about hellish chasing of dependencies with software isntalls[05:33:39] <Zikla> But KDE4 is obnoxious to me XP[05:33:44] <lubed_guy> and not being able to compile stuff[05:34:24] <Zikla> Could try SFE[05:37:52] <lubed_guy> whats that[05:38:23] <Zikla> Spec Files Extra[05:40:53] *** nage_ has quit IRC[05:42:46] *** jteo has joined #opensolaris[05:42:46] *** myosound_ has quit IRC[05:42:51] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[05:45:50] *** [JT] has joined #opensolaris[05:46:32] *** myosound has quit IRC[05:46:56] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[06:00:33] *** [JT] has left #opensolaris[06:05:28] *** myosound has quit IRC[06:12:31] *** Rocket2DMn has quit IRC[06:18:11] *** gm152 has quit IRC[06:23:02] *** throatwarbler has joined #opensolaris[06:27:33] *** throatwarbler has quit IRC[06:33:32] <[lewellyn]> ry_laptop: ping?[06:34:41] *** taltamir has joined #opensolaris[06:42:36] <ry_laptop> pong, but just about to eat some dinner.[06:42:42] <ry_laptop> mail me :) ttyl.[06:42:59] *** peepsMcGee has joined #opensolaris[06:48:47] *** shichang has joined #opensolaris[06:49:32] <shichang> hello[06:49:38] <shichang> can anyone help me?[06:49:54] <shichang> looking for reference into the commands to use in the terminal[06:53:20] <oninoshiko> have you looked at http://bhami.com/rosetta.html[06:53:36] <shichang> let me try that thanks[06:54:41] <oninoshiko> that's mostly for people coming from other UNIXes and UNIX like OSes[06:55:14] *** peepsMcGee has quit IRC[06:55:35] *** Disreali has quit IRC[06:55:36] <shichang> i come from windows[06:55:54] <shichang> just bought a new pc[06:56:00] <shichang> installed opensolaris[06:56:06] <shichang> i am trying to copy a file[06:56:11] <oninoshiko> cp[06:56:11] <shichang> but i dont even know how to[06:56:14] <shichang> oo[06:56:20] <oninoshiko> mv is "move"[06:56:45] <shichang> ah is there a reference for such commands?[06:56:51] <shichang> i cant seem to find it[06:57:21] *** AxeZ has quit IRC[06:57:26] <shichang> feek somewhat handicapped[06:57:31] <shichang> *feel[06:58:03] <Chipdancer> shichang: get a unix book of some sort.. or search for intro to unix or similar[06:58:12] <Chipdancer> that should get you on the right path[06:58:30] <shichang> oo[06:58:57] <shichang> all unixes use same commands?[06:59:19] <oninoshiko> not exactly, but the basic ones are normally pritty similer[06:59:26] <shichang> understand[06:59:46] <oninoshiko> let me see if i can find you something though[07:00:27] *** evocallaghan has joined #opensolaris[07:00:44] *** oxygen-addict has joined #opensolaris[07:02:09] <saboteur> hi Chipdancer :)[07:02:22] <Chipdancer> saboteur: what are you doing hanging out in here?[07:02:25] <evocallaghan> Silly question, however how does one change a zones IP once its built and running ?[07:02:42] <evocallaghan> zonecfg:router> info net[07:02:42] <evocallaghan> net:[07:02:42] <evocallaghan> address: 192.168.2.100[07:02:52] <evocallaghan> I want this change this to .203[07:03:00] <saboteur> Chipdancer: trying to get my laptop working[07:03:44] <saboteur> Chipdancer: this is where it was hanging with the nov 08 release - http://www.flickr.com/photos/saboteur/3389203545/[07:03:55] <saboteur> i just installed the 110 dev build, and now it reboots instead of hanging :P[07:04:07] *** shichang has quit IRC[07:04:11] <Chipdancer> well that's a good start[07:04:39] <saboteur> yeah but i couldn't break to the debugger for either[07:05:32] *** myrkraverk` has joined #opensolaris[07:05:51] <evocallaghan> saboteur: I could maybe help ?[07:06:15] <saboteur> evocallaghan: maybe you could :)[07:06:29] <oninoshiko> hrm... i guess we DON'T have any good user-oriented documentation up[07:06:38] <saboteur> evocallaghan: the livecd boots fine, and everything is golden until you reboot after the install finishes[07:07:10] *** stux|RC has quit IRC[07:07:31] <evocallaghan> Oh, this is not SXCE ?[07:08:10] *** psychicist has quit IRC[07:08:20] *** psychicist has joined #opensolaris[07:08:36] <Chipdancer> evocallaghan: I think it is SXCE from his description[07:08:43] <Chipdancer> evocallaghan: and from the screen shot[07:08:55] <saboteur> it's build 110[07:09:04] <Chipdancer> I don't think there's an OSOL based on 101 or 110[07:09:23] <Chipdancer> saboteur: Solaris eXpress Community Edition?[07:09:31] <saboteur> yeah from genunix.org[07:10:03] <oninoshiko> genunix doesn't distribute SXCE, does it?[07:10:20] <saboteur> oh hang on, community edition is the DVD yeah?[07:10:26] <oninoshiko> yes[07:10:32] <saboteur> that's not what i'm running[07:10:42] <saboteur> this is the preview 2009.06[07:10:56] <saboteur> OSOL preview 2009.06 rather[07:11:00] <evocallaghan> Oh ok[07:11:09] <evocallaghan> Umm, try SXCE please :)[07:11:23] <evocallaghan> hehe, what exactly is the problem[07:12:03] <saboteur> it just freezes (old build) or reboots (new build) when after the text i have in that screenshot[07:13:46] *** stux|RC-only has joined #opensolaris[07:13:50] <evocallaghan> # zoneadm -z router boot[07:13:50] <evocallaghan> zone 'router': rge3:1: could not bring network interface up: address in use by zone 'global': Cannot assign requested address[07:13:50] <evocallaghan> zoneadm: zone 'router': call to zoneadmd failed[07:13:50] <evocallaghan> what!? No it isnt ![07:14:15] <evocallaghan> saboteur:ok can you pass -kv on the grub kernel line please[07:14:52] <saboteur> sorry i should have been more specific[07:15:07] <evocallaghan> Also do you have a bug ID and have you got the latest BIOS[07:15:08] <saboteur> that screenshot already includes those arguments[07:15:09] <evocallaghan> Oh ok[07:15:16] <evocallaghan> 1sec[07:15:22] <evocallaghan> Too many things going on here[07:15:24] <saboteur> latest bios yes[07:15:42] <evocallaghan> Trying to figure out why this zone is complaining about something which is not true :|[07:16:09] *** shichang has joined #opensolaris[07:16:16] <evocallaghan> that looks like 101b[07:16:17] *** oxygen-a1dict has quit IRC[07:16:23] <evocallaghan> not 110[07:16:32] <evocallaghan> Could you try the same with 110 please[07:17:15] <saboteur> osol-0906-110-x86.iso[07:17:34] <saboteur> that's the one i have :/[07:17:35] <evocallaghan> I can clearly see from the screen shot that is 101b[07:18:37] <saboteur> i don't even have the 101b iso downloaded, strange![07:18:46] <saboteur> i have only 2008.11 or this one[07:20:33] <flyingparchment> 2008.11 *is* 191b[07:20:42] <flyingparchment> er, 101[07:20:50] <evocallaghan> Well from that screenshot i can see your booting 101[07:20:55] <evocallaghan> Please try 110[07:21:14] <saboteur> ahh of course!!! that screenshot is from before i reinstalled[07:21:15] <evocallaghan> flyingparchment:Hey[07:21:24] <oninoshiko> flyingparchment: i was about to say "damn, when did they kill nevada?"[07:21:35] <saboteur> the newer version does the same thing, but it reboots instead of hangs[07:21:41] <saboteur> so i won't be able to take a picture[07:21:53] <evocallaghan> saboteur:Boot with -kv and you can[07:22:00] <evocallaghan> It will drop to the debugger instead[07:22:18] <oninoshiko> saboteur: either boot with -kv or send the output to serial[07:22:38] <saboteur> just a sec[07:22:39] <evocallaghan> just boot with -kv and keep things simple[07:23:20] <evocallaghan> anyone think that if I call a zone router with a hostname router is would give greff ?[07:24:21] <oninoshiko> evocallaghan: what's hard about serial?[07:24:28] <evocallaghan> nothing[07:24:56] <evocallaghan> however I was not asuming if saboteur is a new users or not[07:25:06] <evocallaghan> and it could seem like a complex thing to do.[07:25:09] <evocallaghan> That's all[07:25:09] *** cwebber has joined #opensolaris[07:25:34] <saboteur> yeah same go, it reboots without dropping to debugger even with those kernel arguments[07:25:44] *** jtmuzix has joined #opensolaris[07:26:01] <saboteur> and with the old release (the one that would hang) i couldn't press the keys to escape to the debugger either[07:26:39] <evocallaghan> In the screenshot you made it drop to the debugger and passed 0xe0000008[07:26:45] <evocallaghan> Can you pass 0xe0000000 instead[07:26:47] <evocallaghan> then :c[07:26:50] <saboteur> ok[07:26:51] <evocallaghan> Which makes it continue[07:27:07] <saboteur> is that not the default?[07:27:28] <evocallaghan> No[07:27:42] <saboteur> so what will that do?[07:29:51] *** cwebber has quit IRC[07:32:39] *** myrkraverk`` has quit IRC[07:33:14] *** gottadoit1 has quit IRC[07:33:50] <saboteur> evocallaghan: ok, it did print some additional info, but it happens too quickly to capture or read[07:33:59] <saboteur> then reboots...[07:34:08] <evocallaghan> Yea, that's called a panic[07:34:12] <saboteur> i got into the debugger by doing -kvd so it drops straight away[07:34:20] *** shichang has quit IRC[07:34:22] <evocallaghan> yes[07:34:36] <evocallaghan> once it panics it should wait[07:34:37] *** e-jat has quit IRC[07:34:38] <evocallaghan> hmm[07:35:09] <saboteur> is the serial output just via a null modem?[07:35:21] *** lesterc has joined #opensolaris[07:36:21] <saboteur> if so i should be able to take care of that[07:37:21] <evocallaghan> Yes[07:38:23] <saboteur> do i redirect the output from grub or the debugger?[07:40:23] <evocallaghan> grub[07:40:52] <evocallaghan> Sorry its something (light though the window) am in the morning here[07:40:57] <evocallaghan> I will be off soon buddy[07:41:01] *** sndcrb has joined #opensolaris[07:41:13] <saboteur> ahh no worries[07:41:31] <saboteur> i'm not sure this is going to work anyway - this laptop has no serial port so i have only a USB<->serial thing[07:41:37] <saboteur> i don't think grub will be smart enough to use it[07:46:16] <evocallaghan> no that was added in 112 or something[07:46:38] <evocallaghan> booting with -kvd should drop you to the debugger on a panic[07:47:55] *** twisti has quit IRC[07:47:56] <evocallaghan> saboteur:Do you think you can ready yourself with a camera ?[07:48:18] <evocallaghan> also which laptop is this ?[07:55:48] *** jteo has quit IRC[08:05:47] <ipfw> os2008.11 update from b109 to b110 is giving me issues, when logging into a gnome session it core dumps and reboots the box, anyone had similar issues or a clue to why it is doing this ?[08:07:22] <evocallaghan> sounds like Xorg make the kernel panic[08:07:27] <evocallaghan> Intel GPU ?[08:14:56] <eviljames> ipfw: I've noticed hard hard lockups when starting compiz on intel gpu, maybe it is related?[08:15:05] <eviljames> ipfw: Do you have desktop effects enabled?[08:16:16] *** [JT]_ has joined #opensolaris[08:16:49] <evocallaghan> Intel's driver code quilty is crap for there GPU's[08:17:16] <evocallaghan> also had problems related to other intel code, inc. IOMMU and e1000g driver[08:17:21] *** [JT]_ has quit IRC[08:17:36] <eviljames> fortunately, the source is out there.[08:18:50] <evocallaghan> true[08:19:17] <evocallaghan> I rather just buy a Nvid chipset and a AMD processor if I can[08:19:24] <evocallaghan> Just got some new hardware this week[08:19:28] <evocallaghan> works perfect[08:19:38] <evocallaghan> *everything* is supported[08:19:44] <evocallaghan> most pleased[08:20:11] <evocallaghan> http://www.asus.com/Product.aspx?P_ID=lhJiLTN5huPfCVkW this was the board[08:22:10] <sponix> eviljames: no desktop effects and its an nvidia 9500GT or something card[08:22:54] <sponix> evocallaghan: that is what I'm using in the box locking up Gigabyte Board, nvidia video, and Phenom X3[08:24:38] <evocallaghan> yea but that's a Gigabyte ![08:24:50] <evocallaghan> Have you decompiled there BIOS's before :O[08:25:16] <evocallaghan> I found the micro-code was nearly 2 *years* out of date ![08:25:55] <evocallaghan> sponix: that would be the first thing I would be checking is the BIOS[08:27:12] <evocallaghan> any idea why this is happening?[08:27:14] <evocallaghan> # zoneadm -z darkgate boot[08:27:14] <evocallaghan> zone 'darkgate': rge3:1: could not bring network interface up: address in use by zone 'global': Cannot assign requested address[08:27:14] <evocallaghan> zoneadm: zone 'darkgate': call to zoneadmd failed[08:27:36] <Zikla> I get that after I reboot[08:27:51] <evocallaghan> the ip address is *not* in use by the global zone[08:28:01] <evocallaghan> so I don't know what the hell its going on about[08:28:03] <Zikla> What's the global zone's IP address?[08:28:11] <evocallaghan> Zikla: oh yes[08:28:16] <evocallaghan> Its 192.168.2.110[08:28:26] <Zikla> Is that what it says right now?[08:28:33] <evocallaghan> yep[08:28:38] <sponix> evocallaghan: now that you mention it, I do believe I saw mention of bios updates being recommended on newegg[08:28:38] <Zikla> ifconfig tells you that?[08:28:51] <oninoshiko> evocallaghan: what kind of problems did you have with the e1000g? nothing recent i hope (I have alot of them)[08:29:00] <sponix> evocallaghan: funny how b109 ran just fine though, and it doesn't crash right off, just as gnome is loading my session[08:29:10] <Zikla> What's the zone's IP address supposed to be?[08:29:19] <evocallaghan> http://rafb.net/p/PFB8Jl10.html here is the zone[08:29:47] <Zikla> I have this issue where whenever I reboot, the DHCP server assigns my global zone the IP address I gave my non-g zone the last time I rebooted[08:30:17] <Zikla> I'm assuming it's because the router verizon gave me is a piece of shit, but I haven't looked into it, I don't reboot often[08:31:07] <evocallaghan> http://rafb.net/p/wTgEcf79.html here is the other details[08:31:34] <evocallaghan> However I don't have dhcp going[08:31:40] <evocallaghan> on that subnet[08:31:48] <evocallaghan> nor is a dhcp demon ment to be on[08:32:45] <evocallaghan> svcadm disable dns/client[08:32:48] <evocallaghan> maybe this will work[08:33:09] <Zikla> What happens if you ping the zone IP?[08:33:32] <evocallaghan> nothing[08:33:38] <Zikla> No response?[08:33:42] <evocallaghan> nope[08:33:51] <evocallaghan> ok rebooted it[08:34:00] <evocallaghan> gezz I like this AMD <g>[08:35:26] <evocallaghan> no answer from 192.168.2.203[08:35:26] <evocallaghan> 192.168.2.103 darkgate[08:35:26] <evocallaghan> 192.168.2.103 is alive[08:35:30] <evocallaghan> looks good so far[08:36:11] <evocallaghan> nope ! Same deal[08:37:53] <flyingparchment> hmm, i need to port some gas code to as, which uses ~3 ... should i write -4 or 4294967292 for as?[08:40:29] *** Gekz has joined #OpenSolaris[08:41:28] <evocallaghan> Never mind I fixed it[08:41:33] <evocallaghan> after 2h :|[08:42:27] <codestr0m> flyingparchment: as isn't open?[08:42:37] <codestr0m> or you mean just convert between the two syntaxes[08:45:35] *** _setuid_H has joined #opensolaris[08:45:51] <_setuid_H> morning everybody[08:47:18] *** Zikla has quit IRC[08:52:34] *** Zikla has joined #opensolaris[08:54:50] *** niq has quit IRC[08:56:28] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[08:59:54] *** luc^ has joined #opensolaris[09:24:06] *** kate21de has joined #opensolaris[09:27:15] *** JWheeler_ has joined #opensolaris[09:29:33] <codestr0m> _setuid_H: morning![09:29:57] <codestr0m> anyone interested to get notified for all opensolaris code reviews via email ( http://sl.osunix.org/osol-codereviews )[09:40:34] <DerSaidin> how frequent is that?[09:42:36] *** JWheeler has quit IRC[09:47:44] <evocallaghan> made much head way on emancipation project mr. codestr0m ?[09:49:47] *** aramdune has joined #opensolaris[09:51:42] *** perlmongo has quit IRC[09:52:46] <lubed_guy> gentlemen[09:52:57] <lubed_guy> I am on the edge of giving up my beloved archlinux for solaris[09:52:58] <lubed_guy> but[09:53:19] <lubed_guy> I think I need to make y bigger box a 3ghz p4 with 2g ram[09:53:22] <lubed_guy> the solarsi box[09:53:38] <lubed_guy> and make the smaller on the p4 1.6 768m ram the archlinux box[09:53:41] <lubed_guy> or I dunno[09:53:43] <lubed_guy> jeez[09:53:49] <lubed_guy> I just went out here in los angeles[09:53:51] <lubed_guy> I got 0 game[09:53:59] <DerSaidin> if zfs has 768mb of ram atm it would be hurting[09:54:00] <evocallaghan> depends what it will be doing lubed_gay[09:54:01] <lubed_guy> I should just stay in and learn common lisp[09:54:18] <lubed_guy> mainly boxes so i can learn more about unix[09:54:24] <lubed_guy> I have been a linux admin for 5 years[09:54:28] <lubed_guy> but I know very little[09:54:29] <evocallaghan> Use UFS root[09:54:43] <evocallaghan> I think we have spoken before[09:54:45] <lubed_guy> the smaller box has 3 drives[09:54:52] <lubed_guy> 9g 30g 80g[09:54:59] <lubed_guy> big box has 1 drive 80g[09:56:00] <codestr0m> evocallaghan: it's been the same since before fosdem.. I've been working on toolchain stuff[09:56:09] <codestr0m> libc + xorg + icedtea6 + bug fixes[09:56:34] <codestr0m> there's a lot a few kernel patches, but those are known or not-so-difficult[09:56:49] <lubed_guy> so should I junk this linux box for solaris, thsi is th ebig box[09:56:59] <lubed_guy> I just need to use skye[09:57:04] <lubed_guy> thats not available on soalris yet?[09:57:07] <lubed_guy> bugger[09:57:16] <lubed_guy> maybe i cna make the smaller box skype[09:57:22] <lubed_guy> and mvoe the 80g drive back to the big box[09:57:24] <codestr0m> lubed_guy: technically you can run linux in a lx26 branded zone and skype on top of that[09:57:25] <lubed_guy> agggh!![09:57:40] <lubed_guy> oh thats interesting[09:58:10] <lubed_guy> so the zone makes use of the audi card on the big box?[09:58:36] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris[09:59:33] <evocallaghan> lubed_guy:I would just do a dual boot with that hw[10:00:02] <lubed_guy> you know I have trouble[10:00:07] <evocallaghan> righto codestr0m that's the tricky one which is a pressing matter.[10:00:18] <lubed_guy> because the 30g drive seems to be the onyl one sol will install and boto from[10:00:24] <lubed_guy> boot-[10:00:32] <lubed_guy> on the smaller box[10:00:36] <lubed_guy> that is a good idea tho[10:00:41] <lubed_guy> for the small box[10:00:48] *** e^ipi has joined #opensolaris[10:00:49] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o e^ipi[10:00:52] <codestr0m> evocallaghan: which one.. most of these are time.. not difficult.. the difficult part will be debugging and testing[10:00:54] <lubed_guy> maybe ill slap archlinx on the small box and redo this big one with opensol[10:01:27] <lubed_guy> why wont skype run on sol?[10:01:29] <lubed_guy> wtf[10:01:32] <lubed_guy> bastards[10:02:16] <evocallaghan> right.... anyways needs to be done and I think it would be better having more then one person working on it[10:02:19] *** testMibbit has joined #opensolaris[10:02:19] <Zikla> Same reason photoshop won't run on Linux[10:02:34] <codestr0m> evocallaghan: you want to help.. I can get you rolling on packaging xorg[10:02:43] <codestr0m> and there is more than one person helping on it..[10:02:53] <codestr0m> it's just the work is scattered and sometimes putting pieces together[10:03:07] <evocallaghan> umm[10:03:30] <evocallaghan> emancipation has got nothing to do with xorg as such.[10:03:41] <codestr0m> evocallaghan: yes it does.. xorg is a dep to icedtea6[10:03:50] <codestr0m> you can't afaik compile that w/o the xorg headers[10:04:10] <codestr0m> and to just package the headers is a bit of a waste when it takes 2 days to just repackage all of alanc's work[10:04:26] <evocallaghan> I would direct your eyes to http://opensolaris.org/os/project/emancipation/ as I don't know what your going on about.[10:04:36] <evocallaghan> and will leave you with it.[10:04:49] <codestr0m> evocallaghan: ok. .you see a replacement for java on there?[10:04:57] <codestr0m> you realize javac *is* required to build onnv-gate right?[10:05:13] <codestr0m> so if someone doesn't have a complete plan on there it's not my fault..[10:05:14] <evocallaghan> Pfff[10:05:21] <evocallaghan> Look don't worry[10:05:30] <lubed_guy> can I compile not very standard programs such as cherokee webserver and aolserver on sol?[10:05:51] <codestr0m> evocallaghan: why are you talking to me.. it's hard as it is not to be rude to you and you're just provoking me now with this[10:06:00] <evocallaghan> lubed_guy:yes and there are already cherokee packages out there.[10:09:29] <evocallaghan> right o[10:09:34] <evocallaghan> laters folks[10:09:41] *** evocallaghan has left #opensolaris[10:11:09] <asyd> \_o<[10:20:04] <_setuid_H> codestr0m: morning[10:23:32] *** jteo has joined #opensolaris[10:25:07] <lubed_guy> The first English-language book on OpenSolaris, OpenSolaris Bible, is now available.[10:25:10] <lubed_guy> but not free?[10:25:16] <lubed_guy> open -solaris[10:25:20] <lubed_guy> open[10:25:21] <lubed_guy> ?[10:25:24] <lubed_guy> jeez[10:25:30] <lubed_guy> is opensol not documented?[10:25:36] <lubed_guy> unless pay for xyz books?[10:26:29] <e^ipi> docs.sun.com[10:26:43] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU[10:26:44] <e^ipi> you'll be hard pressed to find anything more documented than solaris[10:26:52] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju[10:28:08] <lubed_guy> ok[10:28:12] <lubed_guy> so I can go for it[10:28:27] <lubed_guy> how important is the blastwave set of packages?[10:29:06] <e^ipi> i avoid them like the plague[10:29:10] <_coredump_> hello there[10:29:40] <lubed_guy> so for cherokee webserver for example[10:29:44] <lubed_guy> where do i get that[10:29:47] <lubed_guy> or just compile it[10:29:55] <lubed_guy> how hard to setup c compiler?[10:30:14] <e^ipi> it's already in the repos[10:30:16] <_coredump_> i try to mount an nfs share from my ubuntu box to osol 2008.11: root@fuckup:/opt# mount -F nfs 192.168.1.10:/media/xfs /media/xfs/ but i complains nfs mount: 192.168.1.10:/media/xfs: No such file or directory[10:30:21] <_coredump_> whats wrong there?[10:30:23] <lubed_guy> ok[10:31:19] <e^ipi> _coredump_: either /media/xfs doesn't exist on your server, or your server is renaming it[10:31:28] <e^ipi> or linux's nfs server is completely fucking broken[10:31:35] <e^ipi> which is pretty well known[10:31:36] <_coredump_> mounting this share from freebsd/linux works[10:33:04] <e^ipi> trippy[10:33:19] <e^ipi> are there restrictions on the share ?[10:33:27] <e^ipi> ( as in, only being shared to a subset of your network ) ?[10:34:19] <_coredump_> a[10:34:29] <_coredump_> /media/xfs horst(rw,sync) <-- thats the export on the server, horst is the osol box to connect the share to[10:34:51] *** Zaba_ has joined #opensolaris[10:35:52] <palowoda> Ah you can lead a horst to water but you can't share the water.[10:36:06] *** dev29aug has joined #opensolaris[10:36:33] <_coredump_> i can share nfs to horst, when he runs freebsd and linux, but with osol horst wont mount the nfs share[10:37:27] <_coredump_> maybe something wrong with osol nfs-client? nfs v3/v4?[10:37:29] *** testMibbit has quit IRC[10:37:40] *** Chiron| has joined #opensolaris[10:38:05] <palowoda> But every OS has a standard way of resolving v3/v4.[10:38:25] <tsoome> whats the error message?[10:38:35] *** gerryxiao has joined #opensolaris[10:38:38] <gerryxiao> hello[10:38:48] <_coredump_> i can ssh the nfs server, even run nx-client on osol and connect to the nx-server but nfs wont work[10:38:53] <gerryxiao> any new stuff in 110?[10:39:09] <_coredump_> tsoome, nfs mount: 192.168.1.10:/media/xfs: No such file or directory <- thats what osol complains[10:39:49] <_coredump_> but /media/xfs is exported on the nfs-server and mountable with freebsd and ubuntard[10:40:04] <tsoome> dfshare 192.168.1.10[10:41:12] <_coredump_> its dfshares[10:41:12] <tsoome> ah, dfshares[10:41:16] <_coredump_> 192.168.1.10:/media/xfs 192.168.1.10 - -[10:42:02] <tsoome> so its visible with v3[10:42:51] *** loke_ has quit IRC[10:43:13] <_coredump_> something wrong with my mount syntax?[10:43:17] <_coredump_> mount -F nfs 192.168.1.10:/media/xfs /media/xfs/[10:43:40] <tsoome> try mount -o vers=3[10:44:21] *** loke_ has joined #opensolaris[10:45:07] <_coredump_> so mount -F nfs - vers=3 ?[10:45:45] <tsoome> mount -o vers=3 192.168.1.10:/media/xfs /media/xfs/[10:45:54] *** iron_angel has joined #opensolaris[10:47:00] *** Zaba has quit IRC[10:47:35] <_coredump_> mount -o vers=3 192.168.1.10:/media/xfs /media/xfs/ did the job[10:47:38] <_coredump_> thx tsoome[10:47:56] <tsoome> you server got broken nfsv4[10:48:03] <tsoome> your*[10:48:11] <palowoda> Silly OS's that don't understand nfsv4.[10:48:22] <palowoda> And they claim too.[10:48:50] <lubed_guy> wow linux has abroken nfs?[10:48:55] <lubed_guy> hows that possile with all the users[10:49:00] <_coredump_> its a ubuntard 8.10 box, i think its nfs3 default[10:49:09] <lubed_guy> u bung 2[10:49:26] <lubed_guy> I wonder if debain is ok but u bung 2 is marketing droids[10:49:36] <lubed_guy> archlinux is most decent linux[10:49:41] <lubed_guy> gobolinux most interesting[10:49:47] <_coredump_> yeah arch is pretty neat[10:49:48] <e^ipi> lubed_guy: windows has many , many orders of magnitude more users than linux[10:50:01] <e^ipi> more users doesn't mean good.[10:50:10] <Chipdancer> damnit! the myk driver is incompatible with the latest ONNV :( (probably broken with the latest bridge changes etc)...[10:50:26] <Chipdancer> does somebody want to work out how to compile it for me? :) http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/myk-2.6.8.tar.gz[10:50:50] <_coredump_> i like arch for being a rolling release, it rocks my workstation pretty well.[10:50:56] <Chipdancer> lots of errors like "myk_gem.c", line 3682: improper member use: regs_handle[10:51:06] <lubed_guy> heh good point[10:51:07] <palowoda> Chipdancer: I've yet to see a statement on the crossbow changes with mrym3 network drivers.[10:51:15] <lubed_guy> Im kinda scared but excited to leanr solaris[10:51:18] <palowoda> All of his drivers.[10:51:18] <lubed_guy> learn[10:51:22] <tsoome> well, your server seems to have nfsv4, but shared is only via v3; client will attempt to mount with v4 by default, server responds there is no v4 shares and lient will not attempt to fail back to v3, because server responds on v4[10:51:52] <Chipdancer> palowoda: bummer[10:52:07] <Chipdancer> I would prefer it if Marvell just pulled their fingers out and integrated[10:52:13] <Chipdancer> provided some official support[10:52:29] <iron_angel> Does anyone know what the status of X support is going to be for SPARC machines in the 2009.06 release?[10:52:30] <palowoda> Chipdancer: crossbow did introduce one of the biggest changes in the network device drivers.[10:52:44] <Chipdancer> palowoda: yeah, I know...[10:53:09] <Chipdancer> fortunately I still have an e1000g in the system[10:54:00] <palowoda> Yeah I have a bunch of cheap rge's but I wanted mrym's drivers, crossbow killed me on that.[10:54:37] <palowoda> It all has to do with the 8111 phys section.[10:54:56] <palowoda> Sun's rge driver is kind of out dated.[10:55:22] <Chipdancer> and you don't know if myrm's doing anything to update his driver suite at the moment, right?[10:55:40] <palowoda> I asked didn't get a response so far.[10:55:54] <palowoda> That was 3 weeks ago.[10:56:02] <_setuid_H> Hi guys does anybody have some sun rays to sell?[10:56:07] <Chipdancer> I just upgraded from 103 to 110[10:56:22] <palowoda> Than crossbow reall affects you.[10:56:26] <palowoda> really[10:56:30][10:56:48] <palowoda> It happened at 105.[10:57:04] <_setuid_H> sun ray 270[10:57:23] <_setuid_H> if yes pls. contact me at setuid at setuid dot cc[10:57:25] <_setuid_H> by[10:57:26] <_setuid_H> bye[10:57:37] <palowoda> I have one I can sell you for 1500.00 USD.[10:57:51] *** _setuid_H has quit IRC[10:58:44] <palowoda> Darn can't make a buck on IRC these days.[10:58:46] <lubed_guy> whats crossbow[10:59:20] <palowoda> lubed_guy: You have so much research to do I wouldn't worry about it.[11:01:22] <dev29aug> hello friends...how can i get opensolaris drivers for inspirton 1525?[11:03:41] <iron_angel> dev29aug: as with finding Linux and BSD drivers for laptops, you're better off looking for drivers for specific pieces of hardware (graphics, audio, storage, network, etc), since Dell doesn't provide a driver package like they do for Windows.[11:05:05] <dev29aug> yaa[11:05:13] <iron_angel> Hmm, 1525, though... That's the new-ish Core 2 Duo, right?[11:05:27] <dev29aug> means i sould look for all component drivers[11:05:33] <dev29aug> yaa[11:05:33] <iron_angel> 15.4" panel at 1280x800, HDMI output and so forth?[11:05:40] <iron_angel> I think I might have one here. One second.[11:05:54] <dev29aug> u r right[11:06:01] <dev29aug> okk[11:06:20] <iron_angel> yeah. Got one. You're in luck, I think, though finding anything officialy for anything other than Vista was hell.[11:06:36] <palowoda> Err Indiana is a live cd does it work with that model of dell?[11:06:43] <iron_angel> As near as I can tell, it's got Intel graphics, audio and network, which, unless I'm istaken, should just work, more or less.[11:07:18] <dev29aug> yya[11:07:32] <dev29aug> plz provide me the link[11:07:54] <iron_angel> Should all be there on the live CD - shouldn't have to grab anything from elsewhere... I think.[11:07:59] <palowoda> http://www.genunix.org/[11:08:12] <iron_angel> I haven't personally ested it, though, and I'm not looking at the hardware compatibility lists just this second.[11:08:30] <dev29aug> okk[11:08:42] <dev29aug> i also have fedora live cd..[11:09:10] <dev29aug> i downloaded full dvd , live cd and kde live[11:09:14] <dev29aug> all[11:09:28] <dev29aug> but i installed through dvd[11:09:42] *** ken has joined #opensolaris[11:10:45] *** ken is now known as ken-h[11:10:47] <iron_angel> Well, I'm 99.,9% sure all that will work in Linux, and about 90% sure that there's drivers at least for the critical bits in OpenSolaris - give it a whirl.[11:11:01] <iron_angel> (Wifi I'm not so sure about, but I think Intel pulled their socks up about that lately)[11:11:18] <dev29aug> thnx[11:11:43] <dev29aug> iron_angel ......are u a female?[11:11:51] <dev29aug> sorry for this qu..[11:11:54] <iron_angel> is it relevant?[11:12:56] <dev29aug> no its not relevant ..thats y i said sorry.....but i want to know...[11:13:01] <dev29aug> if u like[11:13:07] <dev29aug> ya or no[11:13:36] <iron_angel> nope, for what it's worth.[11:14:34] <iron_angel> Anyway... Has anyone monkeyed with the Osol preview releases for SPARC yet? I'm trying to figure out what works as far as hardware support goes.[11:14:54] <iron_angel> If Iit doesn't include Xsun at all, then I suppose that answers the question, though...[11:14:54] <dev29aug> actually i though ....girls are not interested in all these stuff like fedora[11:15:04] <e^ipi> dev29aug: that's really sexist.[11:15:13] <iron_angel> dev29aug: that's a myth, or at best a stereotype. But hey.[11:15:52] *** Chipdancer_ has joined #opensolaris[11:15:58] <palowoda> iron_angle: Xorg is only supported on OSOL. You really have to check on the discuss-xwin group to see which sparc graphics cards are supported.[11:16:14] *** houst0n_ has joined #opensolaris[11:16:17] <e^ipi> iron_angel: ISTR niagra class machines[11:16:29] <e^ipi> anything other than those are just gravy[11:16:30] <palowoda> Not many sparc graphics cards are supported from what I've read.[11:16:51] <iron_angel> Thanks. If there's no Xsun, then I think I'll stick with SXCE for now on my Blade 2k.[11:17:09] <iron_angel> Dropping down to a pair off PGX32s from an XVR-1200 feels dirty, somehow :)[11:17:18] <palowoda> Agree[11:17:24] * iron_angel just found the Xorg SPARC compatibility matrix[11:17:24] *** fftb_ has joined #opensolaris[11:17:50] *** houst0n has quit IRC[11:17:51] *** Zikla has quit IRC[11:20:49] <palowoda> e^ipi: What types of graphics cards are available on niagra class machines that Xorg and OpenSolaris should be concerned with?[11:24:01] <iron_angel> Also, since the documentation seems to be conflicting, which version of Sun Studio should be used for building JDS and all the extra packages? 12?[11:24:58] *** Chipdancer has quit IRC[11:27:20] *** dev29aug has left #opensolaris[11:28:18] <iron_angel> And is GCCfss still broken, or is it actually useful now?[11:28:48] <iron_angel> (Sorry about the litany of questions, but it's kinda a pain sorting out what's really outdated and what's just wild mass guessing and such -easier to ask folks with experience!)[11:29:52] *** fftb_ has quit IRC[11:31:20] *** tom_ has quit IRC[11:31:22] <palowoda> iron_angel: Wouldn't know on GCCfss stuff, I've been using my own gcc 4.3.4 build. Which seems to produce good back end code on x86 arch.[11:32:18] <palowoda> The builds 4.0->4.2 before that where worth much.[11:32:29] *** dustman has joined #opensolaris[11:32:46] <iron_angel> Well, I suppose I can give it a spin and see what I get...[11:32:51] <palowoda> where not[11:33:18] *** sophokles1 has joined #opensolaris[11:33:55] <palowoda> Actually there is an ARC case to get gcc 4.3.x into opensolaris. I suspect july/aug.[11:34:16] *** _setuid_H has joined #opensolaris[11:36:49] <iron_angel> *nod*[11:38:15] <iron_angel> Thanks for the info. Gonna be trying to get this working on a few machines here in the near future - been out of the loop for too long.[11:40:24] <palowoda> Just building a gcc 4.3 envionment can be time consuming on Solaris but it brings things up to par.[11:42:53] *** gerryxiao has quit IRC[11:46:10] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris[11:47:20] *** timeless has quit IRC[12:00:10] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU[12:00:11] *** ken-h has quit IRC[12:00:54] *** ken has joined #opensolaris[12:03:38] *** Miika has left #opensolaris[12:07:26] *** mac- has quit IRC[12:14:41] *** taltamir has quit IRC[12:18:01] *** jzmer has quit IRC[12:19:05] *** digifor has joined #opensolaris[12:22:21] *** evocallaghan has joined #opensolaris[12:22:22] <flyingparchment> hmm, is it possible to enable auditing in only a single zone?[12:23:50] <_setuid_H> is there any advantage to use sun java webserver 7? than others?[12:24:24] <flyingparchment> _setuid_H: it's fast, easy to manage, has clustering support, and has a java servlet container. so if any of those are important to you, that's a reason to use it[12:25:22] <_setuid_H> flyingparchment: If I'm going to use mainly websites in php/mysql and want to try to deploy some java apps in the near future. And apache confs are not problem to me, would you still recommend it to me?[12:25:42] <flyingparchment> well, it supports php fine (via fastcgi)[12:25:43] <_setuid_H> flyingparchment: I'm still for the new things :-)[12:25:45] <_setuid_H> ok[12:25:53] <_setuid_H> flyingparchment: I'll try it :-)[12:25:58] <flyingparchment> but don't use the sun php add-on, it's a rather old version of php with many security issues[12:26:04] <_setuid_H> flyingparchment: ok[12:26:15] <_setuid_H> flyingparchment: thanks for the tips[12:26:51] <flyingparchment> if you're coming from apache, the configuration is quite different, but you can use the web ui while you're learning it (or forever, since most things can be configured therE)[12:33:43] *** jteo has quit IRC[12:36:09] *** moby has quit IRC[12:42:33] *** non has joined #opensolaris[12:43:14] <non> hi... some sun webserver 7 experts here?[12:43:21] *** evocallaghan has quit IRC[12:47:08] *** qiyong has joined #opensolaris[12:48:30] *** gehmehgeh has joined #opensolaris[12:49:37] *** ken has quit IRC[12:49:48] <CosmicDJ> flyingparchment: http://blogs.sun.com/natarajan/entry/php_5_2_9_is[12:49:49] <tsoome> not expert, a little experience...[12:50:28] <non> ok. thx... i've found the solution...[12:50:49] *** ken has joined #opensolaris[12:51:21] <flyingparchment> CosmicDJ: what about it?[12:51:39] <CosmicDJ> flyingparchment: you said the php version in opensolaris is ancient[12:51:49] <flyingparchment> CosmicDJ: no, i said the php in the web server php add-on is ancient[12:51:58] <CosmicDJ> ah ok[12:54:34] <flyingparchment> 6740040 Watchingdog Timeout when using smp kernel on Rhel4 u4.[12:54:38] <flyingparchment> "watchingdog"? that's a new one[12:54:57] <DerSaidin> lol[12:55:16] <DerSaidin> non english speaking programmer?[12:56:42] <non> don't alert me :))[12:59:08] <CIA-33> sonam gupta - Sun Microsystems - Bangalore India <Sonam.Gupta at Sun dot COM>: 6815933 lpstat -l 2 -p <print queue> always shown Processing Job (Regression)[12:59:49] *** Maverick1618 has joined #opensolaris[13:01:53] <Maverick1618> Hi all, i'm trying to design a gui in python that would run on a non-X solaris terminal.. however all the windows that i draw are made up of "---" and "+"s.. it must be due to the terminal type which is sun-color. How do i make those lines continuous??[13:02:28] *** servo-- has quit IRC[13:02:58] *** jteo has joined #opensolaris[13:04:10] <[lewellyn]> Maverick1618: "non-x solaris terminal"?[13:04:13] <[lewellyn]> gui?[13:04:20] <[lewellyn]> can you provide more detail?[13:04:36] <[lewellyn]> are you using wxpython or something?[13:04:41] <Maverick1618> non-X meaning solaris console with no X[13:05:05] <Maverick1618> M trying to design a text-based gui.. using curses and python[13:05:25] <Maverick1618> on terminal 0 - /dev/console[13:05:48] <[lewellyn]> that's not a gui :P[13:06:07] <Maverick1618> hehe.. ok a text based interface[13:09:01] <CosmicDJ> IMHO that's a limitation of the solaris console... uhm... font or smth like that[13:12:58] <Maverick1618> so is there any way out of it.. like using a different terminal type(non-X ofcourse)[13:14:33] *** derchris has quit IRC[13:14:38] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[13:14:59] *** codestr0m is now known as codestr0m|afk[13:15:22] <CosmicDJ> ah another one... is the /away command disabled on some irc clients?[13:16:06] <monsted> no, lots of people are just too dumb to figure it out :)[13:16:58] <CosmicDJ> so "He don't like me anymore that's why he doesn't answer" is more sane than "he's prob. away" these days?[13:17:42] *** Zaba has joined #opensolaris[13:19:09] <CosmicDJ> I bookmarked that decades ago -> http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html and I still like it :)[13:19:10] <monsted> yep, emo ftw :)[13:19:27] <CosmicDJ> "randomgit is back: I'm done pissing now!"[13:21:32] *** lionelxxx has joined #opensolaris[13:25:08] <Tempt> CosmicDJ: Paranoia?[13:25:43] <CosmicDJ> Tempt: enough to crypt my emails/IM chats ;)[13:26:14] <Tempt> I was just referring to '"He don't like me anymore that's why he doesn't answer" is more sane than "he's prob. away"'[13:26:15] *** doug_out is now known as doug_outout[13:26:17] <Tempt> paranoia[13:26:18] *** timeless has joined #opensolaris[13:27:12] <Tempt> People seem to think everyone else has nothing to do but lounge around staring at their IRC client waiting for excitement.[13:27:33] <Tempt> Hint to the world - if it's urgent, pick up the phone. If you don't have a phone number, well, that might tell you something.[13:28:17] <CosmicDJ> ah this reminds me of the "I need a quick answer" usenet posts :)[13:28:53] *** ken has quit IRC[13:29:11] <Tempt> heh, quite.[13:29:31] <Tempt> Don't forget the self-followup 10 minutes later asking why nobody has answered yet.[13:30:28] *** Zaba_ has quit IRC[13:30:30] <DerSaidin> The join-ask-part within 2 minutes of IRC is far more stylish[13:30:53] *** Maverick1618 has left #opensolaris[13:30:56] <CosmicDJ> or "If nobody helps me I'll reinstall Linux"[13:31:00] <non> my webserver7 starts as root. admin-server starts with option -u www .... i can't spawn http-listeners at privileged ports...[13:31:00] <Tempt> then two minutes later, "helllooo1?!?!?!?! why nobody help me?!?!?!?!!?"[13:31:10] <non> do i have to use "-u root"...[13:31:12] <non> ?[13:31:25] <timeless> hello world[13:31:28] <non> don't wanna run the server root-only...[13:31:33] <timeless> are there any zpool recovery tools?[13:31:41] <timeless> i had a zpool in my mac, and my mac ate it[13:31:46] <timeless> i'd like the data back :)[13:32:18] <tsoome> how it ate?[13:32:37] <timeless> it claims the volume is fat32 and has mounted it[13:32:47] <timeless> so zpool status says no pools and zpool import says no pools[13:33:40] *** lionelxxx has quit IRC[13:33:51] *** dunc has quit IRC[13:33:59] *** d6g is now known as d6g|away[13:34:02] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[13:34:35] <timeless> tsoome: suggestions? :([13:34:41] <tsoome> reboot?[13:34:46] <tsoome> :D[13:34:50] <Tempt> cry?[13:34:50] <timeless> this is just after a hard power kill[13:34:55] <timeless> because my mac got stuck[13:35:00] <Tempt> it's ... TAPE TIME![13:35:00] <timeless> tempt: already doing that[13:35:08] <DerSaidin> are you currently running OSX or Opensolaris?[13:35:13] <timeless> osx[13:35:22] <Tempt> Definately .... TAPE TIME![13:35:29] <tsoome> what version of zfs you are using there?[13:35:34] <timeless> but i have firewire ports on my mac and on my solaris stations[13:35:36] <DerSaidin> did you make the zpool on opensolaris or OSX?[13:35:42] <timeless> osx[13:35:52] <timeless> so i could use firewiredisk mode if the osol tools are better[13:36:09] <tsoome> there are no tools other thand zdb[13:36:32] * timeless wonders if they shipped zdb[13:36:55] <timeless> no sign of that[13:37:05] <timeless> what's the easiest way to get the zfs version?[13:37:08] <tsoome> depending how you did create pool, you may be able to access it from solaris[13:37:36] <timeless> how many choices are there?[13:37:47] <timeless> i did zpool create disk0s3[13:38:07] <tsoome> ah, its on slice, not whole disk...[13:38:25] <timeless> yeah, mac books don't come w/ dual disks :([13:38:48] <tsoome> you may wanna check if there is new version of zfs on apple devel site...[13:39:00] <timeless> http://zfs.macosforge.org/downloads/zfs-119bin.tgz[13:39:03] <timeless> would have been what i used[13:39:15] <timeless> and it's the latest[13:39:45] <tsoome> thing is, the rw mode driver is still in development there, it means its unstable and can do bad things...[13:39:52] <tsoome> as you have experienced[13:39:56] <timeless> yeah i know[13:40:04] <timeless> it's a risk, i've reaped the whirlwind[13:40:17] <Tempt> how much data did you lose?[13:40:36] <timeless> a complete setup but <100gb :)[13:40:49] <timeless> i had setup w7 (and a license key for which i doubt i have a backup)[13:40:49] <DerSaidin> and if you had "solaris stations" why wasn't it on them?[13:41:05] <timeless> solaris workstation stays at work[13:41:09] <timeless> laptop comes home[13:41:14] <DerSaidin> ok[13:41:15] <timeless> today is typically a non work day[13:41:27] <DerSaidin> my windows box has no important data on it[13:41:31] <DerSaidin> just games[13:41:47] <timeless> i had setup compiler toolchains on both osx and w7 ...[13:41:50] <monsted> timeless: "zfs get version" gives you the version number of all zfs's[13:42:04] <timeless> timeless-mbp:~ timeless$ zfs get version[13:42:04] <timeless> timeless-mbp:~ timeless$[13:42:14] <tsoome> it works on pools[13:42:23] <timeless> zfs would only work if i had a zfs[13:42:27] <tsoome> if you have no imported pools, you get nothing[13:42:29] <timeless> i don't, since the pool is missing[13:42:51] <timeless> the zpools i do have at work tend to have versions older than supported by the system[13:43:24] <tsoome> its the default for apple version as well.[13:43:44] <tsoome> they create like pool version 6 while they support 8[13:43:56] <tsoome> or something similar[13:44:00] <timeless> iirc my pool at work is 2 or 3 :)[13:44:24] <timeless> (it is snv_53, and was created with an even older version)[13:44:43] *** lubed_guy has quit IRC[13:44:52] <timeless> anyway, basically i'd need ot use zdb?[13:45:10] * timeless goes to read the sun online manpage[13:45:20] <tsoome> it may help. but if the pool is heavily messed up.....[13:45:41] <timeless> i'm assuming osx helpfully stamped a FAT header on the partition[13:45:45] <tsoome> tbh, only real suggestion is to use backups[13:45:53] <timeless> and that the remaining internals should be fine[13:46:28] <tsoome> tools like zdb require reall understanding of filesystem internals[13:47:10] <tsoome> and still wont have any quarantees - if pointers are screwed there is little hope you can find right blocks...[13:51:00] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju[13:52:53] <timeless> hrm[13:52:57] <timeless> zdb requires a pool[13:53:07] <timeless> but i don't have one as far as zpool is concerned[13:53:13] <DerSaidin> if the zfs on disk structure is as I imagine it, then you could read along until you find a node; assume it is valid; then read its children with checksums[13:54:00] * timeless wonders if zfs nodes have parent pointers[13:54:08] * timeless is used to hacking fat(16/16/32)[13:54:30] <timeless> i understand the general theory about making a copy of a node and then making a copy of its parent[13:54:33] <asyd> well, there are superblocks[13:54:50] <timeless> but i kinda assumed that for the copy on write stuff, nodes wouldn't have parent pointers[13:54:53] <tsoome> the real question is if you can truest those pointers and what you will do if you find the pointer is messed up:D[13:55:37] <timeless> i presume there are a couple of copies of the superblock, and some scheme for finding it[13:56:32] * timeless visits[13:56:34] <timeless> http://cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=980[13:58:21] <timeless> ok, so i could go huntng for 0bab10c[13:58:34] *** ricardo-vlh has joined #opensolaris[13:58:43] <tsoome> reboot didnt change anything?[13:59:02] <timeless> it seems terribly unlikely that it would[13:59:06] <timeless> but if you inssit[13:59:19] *** finger is now known as F|nger[13:59:39] <timeless> should i use a safe mode?:)[13:59:39] <tsoome> well, there is an chance the driver internal data structs are messed up[13:59:54] *** cypromis has quit IRC[14:00:01] <timeless> given that os x showed me an empty fat32 volume[14:00:11] <timeless> i think it's fairly safe to say that osx thought it was fat32[14:00:20] <asyd> Marcelo Leal's 5 Part ZFS Internals Series. -> 404 :/[14:00:31] <timeless> google cache/web archive?[14:00:51] <asyd> ah, got it[14:01:05] <flyingparchment> hmm, the V40z SP doesn't have remote vga console?[14:01:25] <tsoome> no, dont think so[14:01:39] <tsoome> it was that old ipmi 1.5 module...[14:02:00] <flyingparchment> well, how do i access the megaraid bios via serial? ^M doesn't work, and ESC ^C m (the manual says ESC ^C is the same as control) doesn't work either[14:04:27] *** SpyKee has quit IRC[14:07:24] *** asarch has joined #opensolaris[14:10:05] *** SQlvpapir has joined #opensolaris[14:12:12] *** dustman has quit IRC[14:15:58] *** servo- has joined #opensolaris[14:22:44] *** lip_skip_vt_ has quit IRC[14:23:43] *** qiyong has quit IRC[14:29:02] *** spikey has joined #opensolaris[14:33:23] *** e1kg has quit IRC[14:35:12] *** spikey has left #opensolaris[14:37:46] *** clyons has joined #opensolaris[14:44:12] *** non has quit IRC[14:47:00] *** tosh has joined #opensolaris[14:50:34] *** AxeZ has joined #opensolaris[14:53:46] *** devians_ has joined #opensolaris[14:53:50] *** mega has joined #opensolaris[14:54:03] *** JWheeler_ has quit IRC[14:57:41] *** ibseo has joined #opensolaris[14:57:59] *** fftb has quit IRC[15:00:49] *** mega has quit IRC[15:02:35] *** communicator has joined #opensolaris[15:05:22] *** devians has quit IRC[15:06:19] *** d6g|away is now known as d6g[15:08:36] *** xtrondo has joined #opensolaris[15:08:41] *** Peggy_Sue_ has joined #opensolaris[15:09:19] *** PicCard_ has quit IRC[15:09:46] *** Peggy_Sue_ has quit IRC[15:12:21] *** \amethys1 has quit IRC[15:18:20] *** myrkraverk`` has joined #opensolaris[15:21:52] *** ibseo has quit IRC[15:23:38] *** wonko has quit IRC[15:25:26] *** ibseo has joined #opensolaris[15:27:45] *** NeZetiC has quit IRC[15:27:55] *** NeZetiC has joined #opensolaris[15:30:18] *** ibseo has quit IRC[15:31:55] *** asarch has quit IRC[15:33:57] *** mrb1 has joined #opensolaris[15:34:16] <mrb1> hi.[15:43:32] *** Aviatorcmd has quit IRC[15:44:57] *** niq has quit IRC[15:44:59] *** myrkraverk` has quit IRC[15:55:48] *** daedaluz has quit IRC[15:56:07] *** codestr0m|afk is now known as codestr0m[15:56:10] *** coffeetime has joined #opensolaris[16:02:32] *** Posterdati has quit IRC[16:06:25] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #opensolaris[16:06:30] *** jeremy_c has joined #opensolaris[16:07:28] <jeremy_c> is OpenSolaris the same thing as SunOS? I thought SunOS was for SPARC and has not been released for some time, but uname shows SunOS ?[16:07:57] *** coffeetime has quit IRC[16:08:22] <CosmicDJ> jeremy_c: http://www.science.uva.nl/pub/solaris/solaris2.html#q1.4[16:08:32] <CosmicDJ> some goes for opensolaris[16:09:22] <jeremy_c> ok, thanks.[16:11:15] <flyingparchment> SunOS 4 also ran on the 386i, and on m68k before sparc existed[16:11:26] *** coffeetime has joined #opensolaris[16:11:31] *** tombhadAC has joined #opensolaris[16:11:44] *** coffeetime has quit IRC[16:11:52] *** coffeetime has joined #opensolaris[16:12:04] *** coffeetime has quit IRC[16:12:35] <CosmicDJ> hm... 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When I'm back over dodging mortars again I'll have a look[17:02:44] <ipfw> xRaich[o]2x: I do plan to make dtrace a new best friend[17:02:58] <xRaich[o]2x> good plan, stay with it ;)[17:03:25] *** SQlvpapir_ has joined #opensolaris[17:03:34] <ipfw> Anyone know where to find a very quick and dirty guide to ipf ... Just need to know how to deny _everything_ and then allow only the few I specify to be open, say 52/53(dns), and 7000 (irc)[17:04:04] *** Chiron| has quit IRC[17:04:05] <ipfw> xRaich[o]2x: Yeah, funny how I can concentrate better in a War Zone, think it means it might be time for me to retire ? ;)[17:06:13] *** lesterc has quit IRC[17:06:16] <xRaich[o]2x> make software not war[17:10:19] *** duality has quit IRC[17:11:46] <ipfw> xRaich[o]2x: if only it was that simple... In the US the job security for making War is much more reliable ![17:13:19] <xRaich[o]2x> sad but true :/[17:13:44] <ipfw> Last president felt we should pay other countries to make our software, while we concentrated on policing the planet with our Tanks and so forth[17:14:26] <ipfw> I have very high hopes for our new found leadership, his ideals seem to line up more with mine. At least from what little I've been able to hear him speak[17:15:34] <ipfw> Idea of getting payed enough to live well while coding and loving my family sounds much better than policing other countries, but hey we must go where the work is :P[17:15:51] <xRaich[o]2x> same here. i first heard one of his podcasts 2 years ago, i hope he can remain true to his ideals since he has to clean up a lot...[17:16:53] *** mlischke has joined #opensolaris[17:16:57] <ipfw> xRaich[o]2x: my only fear is that things are so far gone his efforts will take much time to show progress. I hope the American people are patient enough to stick by him to see long term results[17:17:09] <Tempt> This is a little off-topic.[17:17:25] <ipfw> His first few months though, does seem that he is _trying_[17:17:34] <ipfw> Tempt: yeah... got off on a rant, sorry[17:17:35] <xRaich[o]2x> yeah politics can go out of control pretty fast[17:17:37] <ipfw> </endrant>[17:17:42] <Tempt> now[17:17:45] <Tempt> firewall questions[17:17:52] <Tempt> that's easier.[17:17:54] <xRaich[o]2x> agreed ^^[17:17:58] <xRaich[o]2x> see above[17:18:02] <ipfw> Tempt: true, I'd rather hear ipf than Politics any day ;)[17:18:05] <mlischke> or network, need a bit advice :-)[17:18:09] <Tempt> so[17:18:10] <Tempt> ipf.conf[17:18:17] <Tempt> you want to put your permits in early[17:18:19] <ipfw> just need a blanket deny, and then allow dns && irc[17:18:20] <Tempt> and then a deny all[17:18:22] <Tempt> so[17:18:36] <Tempt> pass in quick on nge0 proto tcp from any to 210.87.62.133/32 port = 53 keep state[17:18:42] <Tempt> pass in quick on nge0 proto udp from any to 210.87.62.133/32 port = 53 keep state[17:18:46] <Tempt> block in on nge0[17:18:48] <ipfw> and ipf is the same style ipf OpenBSD uses? So I can read the ipf howtos on openbsd.org as well as sun.com ?[17:19:09] <Tempt> actually, the "ipfilter faq" is your best shot[17:19:12] <Tempt> ipfilter is multi-platform[17:19:14] *** gaveen has quit IRC[17:19:27] <Tempt> but there's a base example on how to get what you want[17:19:28] *** cri__ has joined #opensolaris[17:19:35] <Tempt> I'm sure you can work out how to do additional ports.[17:19:51] <Tempt> "quick" tells it to stop processing when the rule matches.[17:20:19] *** SQlvpapir has quit IRC[17:21:27] *** gaveen has joined #opensolaris[17:21:36] <Tempt> Any further questions?[17:21:45] <mlischke> I'm a bit unhappy with my smb/cifs network speed, so I checked how my disks perform to see if they are the bottleneck[17:21:45] <mlischke> time dd gave me 145/217 MB/s on may 4 disk raidz1 on osol and 126/120 MB/s on my Mac Pro, so that is pretty well[17:21:56] <mlischke> s/may/my[17:22:15] <mlischke> however cifs speed is something around 45/50 MB/s[17:22:22] <Tempt> on what sort of network?[17:22:24] <mlischke> I'd expected it rather to be around 80+[17:22:31] <mlischke> it's a gigabit network[17:22:38] <Tempt> decent switch?[17:22:47] <mlischke> yep, d-link gigabit switch[17:22:50] <tsoome> cifs speed id from file copy?[17:22:53] <tsoome> is*[17:22:59] <mlischke> even jumbo frame aware, though that is another matter[17:23:06] <mlischke> big file copy, yes[17:23:09] <Tempt> consumer switch not exactly exciting.[17:23:11] <mlischke> say 8 GB video file[17:23:12] <Tempt> MacOS also not the fastest client.[17:23:21] *** pjfloyd has joined #opensolaris[17:23:39] <mlischke> who can I check what's the bottleneck?[17:23:46] <Tempt> 50MB/sec isn't bad. That's around 500Mbit/sec, including some overhead.[17:24:12] <mlischke> sure, but I'd like to get out what I can[17:24:28] <mlischke> (do video editing and have all stuff on the NAS)[17:24:42] <Tempt> My experience points to MacOS probably being the bottleneck, if that's your client.[17:24:50] <mlischke> later maybe iscsi, although Mac has some problems with that[17:24:51] <Tempt> test some big FTP transfers.[17:25:01] <mlischke> hmm, that would be a good idea[17:25:09] <Tempt> watch the output of prstat while transferring and make sure smbd isn't running out of CPU[17:25:49] <mlischke> CPU isn't a problem, I think[17:26:01] <mlischke> 2 Intel E2000 @ 2.2GHz[17:26:24] <mlischke> they are at around 60% during file transfer (cifs)[17:26:31] <mlischke> 4gb ram btw[17:26:37] <Tempt> according to prstat, at 60%?[17:26:53] <mlischke> well, no, according to gnome system monitor[17:27:03] <Tempt> first up, ignore that nonsense.[17:27:09] <mlischke> :-)[17:27:09] <Tempt> Use the right tools.[17:27:31] <Tempt> if you want to see what your CPUs are doing, vmstat & mpstat are your friends.[17:27:39] <Tempt> the manpages for both are detailed.[17:28:38] *** cwebber has joined #opensolaris[17:29:14] <Tempt> and profile your client behaviour just as much as the servre[17:29:15] <Tempt> server.[17:29:32] <Tempt> and if you're not using decent NICs on the server, that's another potential problem.[17:29:49] <mlischke> that's what I was looking for[17:30:04] <mlischke> whether I should use a dedicated nic (currently using onboard nic)[17:30:07] *** ggeecko has joined #opensolaris[17:30:10] <Tempt> 500mbit/sec on a single CIFS job from a suboptimal client isn't bad, so don't consider it a pathology.[17:30:12] <mlischke> but first let me try the ftp check[17:30:26] <Tempt> onboard NIC could be good, bad, horrible or indifferent.[17:30:30] <Tempt> onboard e1000g fine.[17:30:34] <Tempt> nge less fine.[17:30:53] <mlischke> have nge[17:30:58] <Tempt> nge not good[17:31:04] <mlischke> hmm[17:31:04] <Tempt> nge lucky to hit 700mbit/sec.[17:31:09] <Tempt> nge crap.[17:31:34] <sartek> bugs.osol is full with e1000g bugs[17:31:48] <sartek> /problems[17:31:52] <mlischke> ouch[17:31:58] <Tempt> Life is full of bugs, but field experience shows nge only making 70% throughput of e1000g[17:32:10] <mlischke> interesting[17:32:17] <mlischke> also people keep recommending it ...[17:32:21] *** capaz1 has joined #opensolaris[17:32:23] <mlischke> (Intel based nics)[17:32:38] <monsted> my e1000g doesn't work in opensolaris[17:32:48] <trichobezoar> the nics themselves cant max the wire..?[17:32:49] <aramdune> mine does. ha.[17:32:51] <monsted> a bit of load on it and it just stops passing packets[17:32:54] <trichobezoar> even on linux/windows?[17:33:02] <Tempt> Anyway, I'm not debating commodity NIC quality.[17:33:20] <Tempt> Not when you can buy an "intel dual gigabit server adapter" for peanuts.[17:34:04] <Tempt> sartek: and Cassini is a hotbed of bugs and uglies, but still performs.[17:34:14] <mlischke> tempt, like this one: http://cgi.ebay.de/Intel-Pro-1000-MT-Dual-Ethernet-Server-Adapter_W0QQitemZ320352790140QQcmdZViewItemQQptZDE_Computer_Peripherie_Netzwerk?hash=item320352790140&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1229|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318[17:34:23] <mlischke> is it supported on osol?[17:34:39] <Tempt> That looks like the ones I've got on my shelf.[17:34:46] <Tempt> err, and in my server.[17:34:55] <Tempt> They'll work on Solaris 10, OpenSolaris both SPARC and x86.[17:35:20] <mlischke> 40 EUR + shipping hmm[17:35:28] *** mega_ has quit IRC[17:36:09] <Tempt> You may well find them cheaper.[17:36:17] *** capaz has quit IRC[17:37:59] <mlischke> interesting, ftp gives me 76 MB/s[17:38:21] <mlischke> well, the ftp client says 63 but peaks are around 76[17:38:45] <mlischke> cpus are at 81 and 71 %[17:38:48] <Tempt> 76 is pretty good.[17:38:58] *** cwebber has quit IRC[17:38:59] <mlischke> but that is only peak lvl[17:39:08] <mlischke> now it goes down to 49 MB/s[17:39:14] <mlischke> mem usage grows and grows on osol[17:39:25] <Tempt> how are you measuring that memory usage?[17:39:28] * sartek wonders why the downtime wasnt announced[17:39:45] <mlischke> still watching the gnome system monitor, it's just easier for me instead reading up man pages now[17:40:00] * Tempt sighs[17:40:31] <mlischke> :-) have patience with us beginners[17:41:10] <mlischke> speed goes down slowly, now 43 MB/s[17:41:20] <mlischke> that's a 12 GB file btw[17:42:18] *** capaz1 has quit IRC[17:43:34] *** rmorse has quit IRC[17:44:46] *** fftb has quit IRC[17:45:00] <Tempt> You can learn a lot about performance analysis and tuning by hanging around and asking good questions, but in the end, it requires work and learning.[17:45:22] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris[17:45:52] <mlischke> Tempt: you are right, results are different, prstat shows 35% cpu utilization[17:46:00] <Tempt> Now, if you're getting those sort of levels of throughput, that's generally in the "good enough" band and tuning further is going to require effort.[17:46:04] <mlischke> for in.ftpd[17:46:29] <Tempt> CPU probably isn't the issue here.[17:46:33] <mlischke> right[17:46:33] <Tempt> iostat -xnc 1[17:46:39] <Tempt> and look at your I/O[17:46:59] *** jbeda has joined #opensolaris[17:47:09] <Tempt> and take this is a chance to learn vmstat and mpstat and all the others, because they'll be handy one day.[17:47:18] <Tempt> check intrstat and see if the system is churning away servicing interrupts[17:47:21] <mlischke> r/s is arond 108 for all disks that participate here[17:47:25] <Tempt> see if your systime in vmstat is too high.[17:47:59] <Tempt> wait time and service time are interesting things from iostat[17:48:39] <mlischke> wait is around 3.5..3.9[17:48:54] <mlischke> 28 - 39 wsvc_t[17:49:03] <mlischke> speed drops still lower and lower[17:49:06] <mlischke> am now at 39 MB/s[17:53:02] <Tempt> and what does the client tell you?[17:53:17] <Tempt> are you reading from or writing to the server?[17:53:49] *** jbeda has quit IRC[17:53:54] <Tempt> anyway, there's a lot of good information around[17:54:10] <Tempt> so, poke around[17:54:23] <Tempt> eliminate the client from the equation[17:54:31] <mlischke> I just tested reading for now[17:54:44] <mlischke> I'll look around more, no doubt[17:54:59] <mlischke> Is there a tool that can measure pure network speed?[17:55:10] *** muelli has joined #opensolaris[17:55:19] <mlischke> for a self assembled x86 NAS[17:55:21] <Tempt> and ignore the gnome monitor's memory stats, they're probably shit.[17:55:31] <mlischke> probably[17:55:32] *** fridim_ has quit IRC[17:55:39] <mlischke> it was just easy to reach for the moment[17:55:53] *** twisti has joined #opensolaris[17:56:05] <Tempt> well, crank away on it for a while and come back with the pointy questions.[17:57:36] *** twisti has quit IRC[17:59:37] <[lewellyn]> timeless: heh. i've been poking at my pool with zdb for the past week or two. it's... not intuitive :P[18:00:15] <[lewellyn]> you may need to do stuff to get your non-recognized pool working though, before you can use zdb :([18:00:37] <mlischke> Tempt: thx[18:02:41] *** ranks has joined #opensolaris[18:04:02] <ranks> I'm wanting to test something out with svm, but am using a laptop with a single disk. Can you use svm with zvol's ?[18:04:56] <oninoshiko> ranks: i beleave so, but it's not reccomended[18:06:56] <ranks> oninoshiko: I just want to setup some mirrors so I can write a script to monitor metastat output. When that is done, will use the script at work, and remove all svm stuff on laptop. I was having trouble creating the devices.[18:07:09] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[18:07:12] <ranks> I created 4 zvols, v1, v2, v3, v4[18:07:37] <ranks> I was able to metadb -a -f -c 2 /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/v4 just fine[18:08:00] <ranks> but metainit d1 1 1 /dev/zvol/dsk/rpool/v1 complains about no hot spare[18:08:05] *** _setuid_H has quit IRC[18:08:07] *** non has joined #opensolaris[18:09:04] *** duality_ has joined #opensolaris[18:09:10] <oninoshiko> ranks: I'm afraid I havent had a need to TRY it...[18:09:24] <mlischke> Tempt: can I find out what jumbo frames a nic supports?[18:09:29] *** kate21de has quit IRC[18:09:34] *** kate21de1 has joined #opensolaris[18:09:46] *** tombhadAC has joined #opensolaris[18:09:53] <mlischke> I tried setting a few but that always failed until I used the default (1500)[18:09:57] *** duality_ has quit IRC[18:16:04] *** fftb has joined #opensolaris[18:16:24] *** myrkraverk`` has quit IRC[18:17:35] *** kimc has quit IRC[18:18:01] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[18:18:03] *** pgr has joined #opensolaris[18:18:58] *** myrkraverk`` has joined #opensolaris[18:19:08] *** tfb has joined #opensolaris[18:19:23] *** wokolad has joined #opensolaris[18:19:55] *** doug_outout is now known as doug_out[18:21:27] <wokolad> hi all.I want to use program Guitar pro with wine.Program works fine itself, but to hear sound i need to use midi sequenser.It is recommended to use timidity.But when i launch it as said in how-to, it says, that some interface is not compiled in.When I try to compile myself, it fails[18:21:58] <wokolad> has anynone successfully used timidity & guitar pro under wine?[18:23:37] *** tfb has quit IRC[18:24:28] <psychicist> have you ever had any luck with it? I got it to install but after one run it stopped working[18:24:51] <wokolad> you talk about timidity?[18:25:00] <psychicist> that was on gnu/linux, but I imagine the situation will not be much different on solaris[18:25:37] <psychicist> I was talking about guitar pro, my former guitar teacher would like to use on gnu/linux[18:26:02] <wokolad> guitar pro is ok, it launches and displayes font correctly[18:26:03] <psychicist> to use it*[18:26:31] <wokolad> latest wine, winetricks, and windows fonts, I think its enoegh[18:26:51] <wokolad> and of course, wine should be compiled[18:26:57] <wokolad> from sources[18:27:19] <psychicist> that wass the easy part and it worked fine, but the sound didn't work all that well although that could be an issue with #$!* called ALSA[18:27:48] <wokolad> I'm using OSS[18:28:51] <wokolad> the problem is to compile timidity[18:29:43] <psychicist> I use fluidsynth for midi with a Creative MIDI soundfont I got with one of my old soundblaster driver CDs and haven't tried to build timidity for a long time because I couldn't build it a few years back[18:30:11] <wokolad> but u got fluidsynth working?[18:30:20] <psychicist> but I haven't worked on my audio setup for quite some time now, I'll have a look at it soon[18:30:45] <psychicist> I got it working, but I'm a gnu/linux user and distribution developer, I don't know about solaris[18:31:23] *** yowlst has joined #opensolaris[18:31:54] <wokolad> i tried to compile it, but unsuccessfully[18:31:57] <psychicist> although I can't imagine it will be very much different or harder to get it to work on solaris[18:32:45] <wokolad> I think it is easier to convince Guitar Pro developers to write Linux/Unix version of thier program))[18:33:56] *** kleppari has quit IRC[18:34:04] <psychicist> believe me, I've tried, I mailed them several times since the summer of 2007 and haven't heard much back from them. my guitar teacher did the same but to no avail[18:34:31] <wokolad> It is said,really sad([18:34:35] <wokolad> *sad[18:35:00] <psychicist> I think the best road ahead is to come up with something ourselves and using open formats as well[18:36:35] <wokolad> It's very hard to make all developers follow standards, it's hard as hell, it's easier to write program ourselves[18:37:06] <wokolad> wine was created because of this[18:37:28] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[18:37:39] <psychicist> I remember I had a look at the powertab code some time ago[18:37:54] <wokolad> I heard that if using RSE in GP midi sequenser is not needed[18:38:02] <wokolad> but don't if that true[18:38:05] *** kleppari has joined #opensolaris[18:38:07] <wokolad> *don't know[18:38:46] <psychicist> that should be the case, maybe the wine version I used had bugs which prevented the sound from working[18:38:51] <wokolad> what do you think[18:39:12] <psychicist> so I'll try again when I can find that installation cd, I don't have it here at the moment[18:39:34] <wokolad> ok, I'll try too with RSE[18:41:55] <psychicist> great, I'd like to hear it if you can get it to work[18:42:22] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris[18:42:34] *** mrb2 has joined #opensolaris[18:43:01] <wokolad> but I heard that in linux it's no problem with midi[18:43:37] <wokolad> just launch midi and choose the midi port in guitar pro[18:45:24] <psychicist> midi isn't much of a problem indeed, but it's been a long time since I tried[18:45:37] *** mrb1 has quit IRC[18:51:05] *** SQlvpapir has joined #opensolaris[18:51:33] *** ranks has quit IRC[18:53:48] *** Dorfo has quit IRC[18:53:51] *** peeps has joined #opensolaris[18:53:57] *** yarihm has joined #opensolaris[18:54:50] *** Dorfo has joined #opensolaris[18:56:03] *** duality_ has joined #opensolaris[18:56:45] *** gehmehgeh has quit IRC[18:57:31] *** temp has joined #opensolaris[18:57:49] *** Dorfo has quit IRC[18:57:53] *** duality_ has quit IRC[18:57:58] *** temp is now known as kunalghosh[18:58:01] *** duality has joined #opensolaris[18:59:02] <ipfw> what ftpd does b109 use by default ?[18:59:13] *** duality has quit IRC[19:00:49] *** duality has joined #opensolaris[19:03:32] <CosmicDJ> ipfw: there's more than one?[19:07:49] *** Dorfo has joined #opensolaris[19:07:59] *** jteo has quit IRC[19:08:01] *** throatwarbler has joined #opensolaris[19:09:32] *** peeps has quit IRC[19:09:36] <dizko> i know this is a pretty disturbing question, but here goes: Anyone get .net to install in wine under opensolaris?[19:09:36] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris[19:10:09] <e^ipi> i doubt anyone's even tried[19:10:10] <throatwarbler> Ouch. No, I haven't tried[19:10:21] <e^ipi> but it should be the same as installing it under wine anywhere else[19:10:24] <throatwarbler> For something that complex, VirtualBox ?[19:10:25] <svcadm> dizko: you'd be better off trying to get mono to work[19:10:28] <e^ipi> so see if any of the ubuntards have done it[19:10:37] <dizko> yea its listed as working[19:10:45] <dizko> it fails under wine in osol for me[19:11:01] <svcadm> dizko: are you using the packaged wine, or did you build wine?[19:11:09] <dizko> i built wine from the specfiles[19:11:14] <svcadm> 'kay[19:11:16] *** fftb has quit IRC[19:14:14] *** peeps has joined #opensolaris[19:14:24] <kunalghosh> guys need help retrieving detailed list of packages of registered authorities in OSOL[19:15:58] *** digifor has quit IRC[19:16:29] *** hamling_ has joined #opensolaris[19:17:17] *** DesiJat has quit IRC[19:17:42] <wokolad> physchist, I tried rse, it doesn't work.The only thing working is prelistening of the specific rse bank[19:22:38] *** niq has quit IRC[19:22:59] <nachox> ubuntards? :)[19:26:26] *** arpunk has joined #opensolaris[19:27:17] *** kunalghosh has quit IRC[19:28:00] *** _setuid_H has joined #opensolaris[19:28:11] *** non has quit IRC[19:29:52] *** svcadm has quit IRC[19:32:39] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[19:33:53] *** gil has quit IRC[19:35:14] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[19:35:16] *** Guest54500 has quit IRC[19:39:30] *** fftb has joined #opensolaris[19:44:09] <js> WTF?[19:44:16] <js> solaris can't handle hmac-ripemd160 in ssh?[19:44:45] <js> even if I manually specify it in the .ssh/config file[19:45:21] *** Honk is now known as Honk^away[19:45:31] *** Honk^away is now known as Honk[19:45:53] *** mlischke has quit IRC[19:46:37] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[19:46:39] <js> it only allows the insecure md5 and sha1 hashes[19:48:25] *** arpunk has quit IRC[19:49:44] *** infomomo has joined #opensolaris[19:50:18] *** throatwarbler has left #opensolaris[19:50:25] *** Kitty has quit IRC[19:50:34] *** Kitty has joined #opensolaris[19:52:42] *** arpunk has joined #opensolaris[19:52:59] *** jbeda has joined #opensolaris[19:53:38] *** asarch has joined #opensolaris[19:54:20] *** asarch has quit IRC[19:56:26] *** JWheeler has joined #opensolaris[19:56:39] *** asarch has joined #opensolaris[19:57:48] <nachox> interesting IPS suddenly got much faster in b110[19:57:58] <ry_laptop> hmm cool[19:57:59] <js> hm[19:58:04] <ry_laptop> ian must be doing his magic.[19:58:07] <js> which devices should my harddrives be?[19:58:20] <js> I have an ICH8R and an Adaptec U160 SCSI controller[19:58:26] <js> but can't find any device that looks like a harddrive[20:00:27] *** cri__ has quit IRC[20:01:03] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[20:02:05] <tsoome> its like small metal box....[20:02:45] <nachox> ian does not code[20:02:55] <js> pci bus 0x0000 cardnum 0x1f function 0x02: vendor 0x8086 device 0x2822[20:02:55] <js> Intel Corporation 82801 SATA RAID Controller[20:02:57] <js> so it should work[20:03:02] <js> but I can't find any HDs[20:03:03] <ry_laptop> ahh. I imagine it's more than code that makes IPS happen :)[20:03:09] <flyingparchment> js: iostat -En[20:03:15] <ry_laptop> it's the pure direction.[20:03:27] <ry_laptop> anyway time to go outside, since I worked on zabbix and iostat stats for like 10 hours straight yesterday[20:03:31] <ry_laptop> I'm surprised my gf stays wihtme![20:03:39] <js> flyingparchment: jack@opensolaris:~$ pfexec iostat -En[20:03:39] <js> c3t1d0 Soft Errors: 0 Hard Errors: 0 Transport Errors: 0[20:03:39] <js> Vendor: TEAC Product: CD-W54E Revision: 1.1B Serial No:[20:03:39] <js> Size: 0.72GB <720697344 bytes>[20:03:39] <js> Media Error: 0 Device Not Ready: 0 No Device: 0 Recoverable: 0[20:03:40] <ry_laptop> macgruber!!![20:03:41] <js> Illegal Request: 6 Predictive Failure Analysis: 0[20:03:43] *** ry_laptop has quit IRC[20:03:48] <js> so that means no device found at all?[20:04:04] <js> besides the cdrom on the jmicron which I had to plug in order to boot it (it wouldn't boot with the s-ata cd drive)[20:04:40] *** inertmatter is now known as ladyfantasy[20:05:37] *** gehmehgeh has joined #opensolaris[20:06:03] <oninoshiko> js: is that intel an onboard chip? is it configured to use raid?[20:07:38] <js> yes, it's configured to use raid[20:07:38] *** Dorfo has quit IRC[20:08:01] <js> I already expected that it can't handle the raid, but at least it should be able to handle the cdrom, right?[20:09:31] <flyingparchment> the output you just pasted shows a TEAC CD-ROM[20:09:35] <js> yes[20:09:38] <js> that's on a jmicron[20:09:45] <js> i attached it so I can boot opensolaris[20:10:40] <js> the adaptec controller isn't recognized as well as it seems[20:10:45] <js> there should be a 73 GB SCSI HD as well[20:10:53] <js> pci bus 0x0005 cardnum 0x02 function 0x00: vendor 0x9005 device 0x0080[20:10:53] <js> Adaptec AIC-7892A U160/m[20:10:54] <js> that is[20:13:31] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[20:17:11] *** Dorfo has joined #opensolaris[20:17:31] *** teknoprep has joined #opensolaris[20:23:42] *** jmatrix has quit IRC[20:24:01] <js> ah, ok, only works in 32 bit mode[20:24:01] <js> damn[20:25:31] <teknoprep> what only works in 32bit mode ?[20:25:39] <flyingparchment> his scsi card, probably[20:25:44] <teknoprep> eh ?[20:25:44] <flyingparchment> some of those old adaptecs only have 32b drivers[20:25:52] <teknoprep> thats horrid[20:26:05] <teknoprep> if ppl are going to make drives for opensource software.. they should opensource the driver[20:26:13] <teknoprep> so it can be compiled for 64bit if need be[20:26:16] <flyingparchment> that driver was not written for open source software, it's very old[20:26:23] <teknoprep> oh[20:26:47] <teknoprep> hey flyingparchment do you have a good recommendation for one of those Ram Disk modules[20:26:55] <teknoprep> for the ZIL[20:26:56] <flyingparchment> no, i've never used one[20:27:14] *** pgr has quit IRC[20:28:07] <teknoprep> think i am going to buy it[20:28:27] <js> flyingparchment: there are closed-source drivers in _OPEN_solaris?[20:28:32] <js> thought they are only in the normal solaris?[20:29:09] <flyingparchment> i don't know what's in 2008.xx, but quite a few important drivers aren't open yet (like mpt), and i'd be surprised if it didn't support them[20:29:30] <flyingparchment> (because nearly every sun system ever created in the last 10 years uses mpt for its scsi/sas controller)[20:30:06] <js> isn't it possible that my SCSI controller is PCI32 instead of PCI64?[20:30:15] <js> AFAIK, those cards have problems on 64 bit OSes, right?[20:30:21] <flyingparchment> 32-bit PCI cards should work fine[20:30:29] <flyingparchment> and 64-bit cards work fine in 32-bit systems, too[20:30:46] <flyingparchment> it just refers to the width of the pci bus, 64-bit allows faster data transfer (since twice as much data moved in one clock cycle)[20:30:51] <js> anyway[20:30:57] <js> is it likely that the ICH8R will be supported one day?[20:31:26] <flyingparchment> in raid mode? no idea[20:31:54] *** coffeetime has joined #opensolaris[20:35:54] *** Yamazaki-kun has quit IRC[20:44:37] <nachox> "Please try the command again using pfexec, or otherwise increase your permissions." "increase your permisions"? hehe[20:46:02] *** smoking_gun has joined #opensolaris[20:46:46] <psychicist> increase your power, elevate your permissions now![20:46:54] *** Reiser has joined #opensolaris[20:47:00] <Reiser> hi all[20:49:48] <Reiser> i need help[20:50:24] <psychicist> please consult your lawyer[20:51:40] *** infomomo has quit IRC[20:51:45] <psychicist> sorry, I couldn't let that pass considering your nick ;)[20:52:14] <psychicist> what's your problem?[20:52:51] <Reiser> i installed opensolaris, and i don't know how to boot it[20:53:08] <Reiser> GRUB wasn't installed by opensolaris[20:53:38] <Reiser> i have GRUB on my archlinux, but really to add opensolaris to it?[20:53:56] <psychicist> I have to say it's been a long time since I installed solaris, but I'll try to help you[20:54:38] <psychicist> I think you can chainload opensolaris GRUB partition within archlinux's GRUB[20:54:43] <CosmicDJ> that wasn't english[20:54:46] <CosmicDJ> ww[20:54:57] *** alhazred has joined #opensolaris[20:56:20] *** AxeZ has quit IRC[20:57:12] <Reiser> opensolaris has own (modified) GRUB?[20:57:57] <jbk> yes, the grub maintainers weren't interested in the changes to support zfs, so it's essentially a minor fork[20:57:59] <psychicist> that was true with sxce before opensolaris existed, so I think it's still the case[20:58:15] <monsted> Hans? Are you out of jail already?[20:58:20] *** fftb has quit IRC[20:58:41] <JWheeler> hehe[20:59:14] *** pgr has joined #opensolaris[20:59:20] <teknoprep> so[20:59:22] *** AxeZ has joined #opensolaris[20:59:24] <Reiser> yes, i'm out to kill wifes :)[20:59:35] <teknoprep> if i want to put the ZIL on a ramdisk.. whats the command to do that when creating the zpool ?[21:00:16] <Reiser> title OpenSolaris[21:00:16] <Reiser> rootnoverify (hd1,0)[21:00:16] <Reiser> makeactive[21:00:16] <Reiser> chainloader +1[21:00:57] *** alhazred has quit IRC[21:00:59] <Reiser> hm... it can to boot opensolaris?[21:01:06] <psychicist> jbk: I used to experiment with solaris until 2 years ago, it was a horror to try to boot the GRUB bootloader included with gnu/linux from solaris's GRUB or vice/versa[21:01:31] *** niq has quit IRC[21:01:35] *** taltamir has joined #opensolaris[21:02:05] *** Reiser has quit IRC[21:02:21] <psychicist> or rather the kernels from the partitions[21:02:34] <nachox> solaris used to use a really nasty real mode stuff till newboot came along[21:02:49] <nachox> in x86[21:03:23] <psychicist> I remember that, so I guess the switch to GRUB has improved things a lot[21:04:28] *** smoking_gun has quit IRC[21:04:40] <teknoprep> did they implement converting zpool raid types yet? on the fly[21:05:01] <nachox> zpool raid types?[21:05:23] <nachox> zfs has been raid capable since the very beginning[21:05:41] <teknoprep> i was under the impression that the raid was handled by zpool[21:05:44] *** Dorfo1 has joined #opensolaris[21:06:09] <teknoprep> i want to convert a raidz2 to raid10[21:08:03] <CosmicDJ> make a full backup, buy a raidcontroller that does raid10, restore from backup[21:09:02] <teknoprep> why would i buy a raid controller that does RAID-10 ?[21:09:16] <teknoprep> i don't need a raid controller that does raid10[21:09:21] <teknoprep> zpool/zfs can do raid10[21:09:24] <CosmicDJ> teknoprep: because I can't find raid10 in zpools manpage[21:09:26] *** smoking_gun has joined #opensolaris[21:09:53] <teknoprep> zfs create tank mirror disk1 disk2 mirror disk3 disk4 mirror disk5 disk6 mirror disk7 disk8[21:09:56] <teknoprep> and so on[21:11:04] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[21:11:15] <nachox> raid 10 is raid 1+0[21:11:31] <teknoprep> isn't that what i just did[21:11:38] <teknoprep> thats not 0+1[21:11:42] <e^ipi> teknoprep: pool reshaping isn't available yet.[21:11:48] <teknoprep> so i have read[21:12:00] <teknoprep> i have been reading older articles tho.. didn't know if anything new has come out[21:12:24] *** hsp has quit IRC[21:12:47] <e^ipi> it's an incredibly hard problem[21:12:53] <e^ipi> some guys are working on it though[21:13:01] <e^ipi> don't expect an ETA... it'll be a while[21:13:14] <teknoprep> thats fine[21:13:19] <teknoprep> its opensource[21:13:25] <teknoprep> i'll deal with that issue[21:13:55] *** kimc has left #opensolaris[21:14:58] *** Dorfo has quit IRC[21:16:49] *** Hedonista has joined #opensolaris[21:17:32] *** Reiser has joined #opensolaris[21:17:46] <teknoprep> can a HDD only be attached to a single ZPOOL ?/[21:17:49] <Hedonista> does anyone know an easy to read how-to for sharing with nfs between linux/open solaris?[21:18:03] <teknoprep> zfs set sharenfs=on tank/location[21:18:38] <e^ipi> teknoprep: as opposed to what?[21:18:39] <Reiser> has opensolaris Attansic L1 Ethernet driver?[21:18:40] <teknoprep> honestly i still prefer a good iSCSI target and a clustered FS[21:19:02] <e^ipi> Reiser: src.opensolaris.org/[21:19:07] <teknoprep> e^ipi - some raid / pool configurations allow disks to be used in multiple pools[21:19:08] <e^ipi> if the source makes reference to it, probably[21:19:09] *** Honk has left #opensolaris[21:19:11] *** C_Kode has joined #opensolaris[21:19:32] <e^ipi> teknoprep: as what, spares? or different partitions on the disk[21:19:43] <teknoprep> nvm[21:19:54] *** yarihm_ has joined #opensolaris[21:19:55] <teknoprep> from what i have seen it can't be done[21:20:29] <teknoprep> alot of the HP controllers i use you can have mutiple HDD's in a single pool... those pools you can do multiple raid levels using all disks... so you now have a RAID-5 LUN or a RAID-10 LUN[21:20:34] <C_Kode> Can you create a RAID10 type stripped mirror with zfs? I've read something that explained how mirrors and raidz was created, but it didn't say anything about using more than two disks[21:20:35] <teknoprep> but its all on the same pool of HDD's[21:20:59] <teknoprep> C_Kode - zfs create tank mirror disk1 disk2 mirror disk3 disk4 mirror disk5 disk6[21:21:27] <C_Kode> teknoprep: Excellent thanks![21:22:05] <C_Kode> Is tank an example name of a pool or does it actually mean something? (I noticed all examples use it)[21:22:10] <teknoprep> yes[21:22:15] <teknoprep> you can name tank anything you want[21:22:20] <teknoprep> man zpool[21:22:28] <teknoprep> oh hey s/zfs/zpool[21:22:32] <C_Kode> Tahnks two times. (don't have OpenSolaris installed yet[21:22:36] <teknoprep> C_Kode - zpool create tank mirror disk1 disk2 mirror disk3 disk4 mirror disk5 disk6[21:22:39] <teknoprep> not zfs[21:22:53] <e^ipi> tank means "i read tutorials instead of documentation so shouldn't be taken seriously"[21:23:04] <CosmicDJ> you can call it panzer if you like ;)[21:23:04] <C_Kode> tank u :P[21:23:07] <teknoprep> e^ipi - no it means i read both[21:24:30] <C_Kode> CosmicDJ: I would prefer Abrams ;)[21:25:03] <teknoprep> i name my zfs pools... blackhole-01[21:25:05] <teknoprep> and so on[21:25:28] <e^ipi> sensible[21:25:29] *** ej|away has quit IRC[21:25:37] <hrist> hm, one of the nfs-shares at my university ist called blackhole too :)[21:25:40] <e^ipi> mine are all named after greek philosophers[21:25:46] <e^ipi> ( they know stuff ... )[21:25:47] *** Reiser has quit IRC[21:25:50] <teknoprep> hrist - what school ?[21:26:02] <teknoprep> hrist - vanderbuilt ?[21:26:02] <C_Kode> alias blackhole=/dev/null[21:26:03] <trygvis> e^ipi: hey, same as my uni did[21:26:07] <hrist> teknoprep: no[21:26:10] *** Hedonista has quit IRC[21:26:42] <teknoprep> hrist - i did a pretty big VMware installation there as a consultant... we named there NetApp LUNs all BlackHole-prim/usage[21:26:58] <hrist> :)[21:27:09] <hrist> the IT there is crap -.-[21:27:12] *** yarihm has quit IRC[21:27:18] <teknoprep> at vanderbilt[21:27:21] <teknoprep> yeah its bad man[21:27:28] <hrist> no :) at my university[21:27:37] <teknoprep> i think alot of universities its like that[21:27:42] <hrist> hmhm[21:27:49] <teknoprep> they have enough money to hire consultants to do the initial job[21:27:55] <teknoprep> and then have college students fuck it all up[21:27:57] *** tombhadAC has joined #opensolaris[21:30:25] <e^ipi> my school's network switched to linux and it's been nothing but problems since... heh[21:30:53] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[21:30:57] <e^ipi> the blade100's and the couple of v440's ran like tanks[21:30:58] <teknoprep> so... e^ipi i bought a SATA ramdisk module... i can't seem to find the zpool switch for putting the ZIL on it[21:31:09] <e^ipi> teknoprep: you add the device as 'log'[21:31:52] <oninoshiko> teknoprep: remember that is a one way operation (you can't undo it)[21:32:06] <jbk> e^ipi: need to try to sneak opensolaris in there[21:32:16] <C_Kode> e^ipi, If they are having nothing but problems, they should look at their admin staff who implemented it. Obviously the issue resides with who and not what.[21:32:20] <e^ipi> jbk: i was offered the sysadmin job actually[21:32:25] <teknoprep> oninoshiko - so if the RAM disk fails... does storage work ?[21:32:30] <e^ipi> but i want to get the hell out of here and sun's paying me more anyways[21:32:30] <oninoshiko> you might download the zilstat.ksh script someone posted and make sure you are doing alot of syncronous writes[21:32:44] <e^ipi> plus sysadmin for a third rate university vs. sun? easy choice.[21:33:12] <teknoprep> i want a job at Sun[21:33:17] <oninoshiko> teknoprep: theoreticly, if the memory flushes before the power is shut off[21:33:22] <jbk> just help out a bit[21:33:22] <oninoshiko> the you should be ok[21:33:26] *** _ej_ has joined #opensolaris[21:33:33] <e^ipi> teknoprep: so apply for one... sun.com/jobs[21:33:58] <oninoshiko> otherwise you will loose whatever was in the ZIL that did not get written to the main pool[21:34:13] *** fftb has joined #opensolaris[21:35:26] <oninoshiko> that said, as long as your device is non-volitle the odds of losing a dram device are low.[21:35:43] <e^ipi> you can also mirror them if you're paranoid[21:35:43] <oninoshiko> which model did you get?[21:36:07] *** Dorfo has joined #opensolaris[21:40:46] <master_of_master> hi, is it possible to do zfs send/recv the other way around? e.g. start zfs send on the host I ssh into and recv on localhost?[21:41:22] <oninoshiko> sure.[21:41:23] <e^ipi> why wouldn't there be, it's just pipes[21:42:19] <oninoshiko> zfs send crap@snapshot | ssh bob@storeage "zfs recv...[21:42:39] <master_of_master> oh, now I understand.... just thought it the wrong way[21:42:58] <master_of_master> oninoshiko: I whant it the other way[21:43:38] *** AxeZ has quit IRC[21:43:45] *** Dorfo has quit IRC[21:44:50] *** Dorfo1 has quit IRC[21:44:54] <oninoshiko> then ssh bob@source "zfs send crap@snapshot" | zfs recv...[21:45:02] <oninoshiko> or somthing to that effect[21:45:05] *** biafra has joined #opensolaris[21:46:08] *** Kitty has quit IRC[21:46:10] *** sndcrb has quit IRC[21:46:33] *** Kitty has joined #opensolaris[21:47:10] <SatManUK> hi i have downloaded opensolaris nv edition, do i need to burn to dvd's or is there a way to assemble the two images onto one disk?[21:49:20] <SatManUK> Solaris Express Community Edition DVD Build 110 - Segmented Image Download This one i mean[21:49:26] <oninoshiko> did you click the "DVD Assembly Instructions" link[21:49:35] <SatManUK> yeah i am reading it now[21:49:57] <SatManUK> reading the "ReadMe"[21:50:22] <oninoshiko> in the future, the "single image" link avoids that step.[21:50:26] *** pgr has quit IRC[21:50:58] <SatManUK> i can just download that and delte the segmented images[21:51:23] <SatManUK> its going to be easier isn't it?[21:51:25] <oninoshiko> why? just cat it together. much faster[21:51:53] *** Kitty has quit IRC[21:52:13] *** Kitty has joined #opensolaris[21:52:14] *** teknoprep has quit IRC[21:52:26] <oninoshiko> you already have it all downloaded. cat is much faster then your internet connection.[21:52:39] <oninoshiko> I gar-ron-tee[21:53:23] *** zzf256 has joined #opensolaris[21:53:29] *** Dorfo has joined #opensolaris[21:53:55] *** C_Kode has quit IRC[21:55:42] *** AxeZ has joined #opensolaris[21:57:21] <SatManUK> ah i found it cat iso-a iso-b > .iso[21:57:22] *** mega has joined #opensolaris[21:57:49] <sickness> ciao mega :)[21:59:33] <SatManUK> i hope this allows me to install it now i don't know why both versions of opensolaris live cd failed to transfer yesterday[22:00:05] <oninoshiko> a sign from above?[22:00:46] <SatManUK> try it on another machine and don't try it on my laptop, or there is something wrong with my hard disk[22:01:19] *** SatManUK has quit IRC[22:01:19] *** yousef has quit IRC[22:01:19] *** d3xter has quit IRC[22:01:20] *** SYS64738 has quit IRC[22:01:20] *** mitrox has quit IRC[22:01:20] *** fraggeln has quit IRC[22:01:20] *** Pietro_S_ has quit IRC[22:01:20] *** seanmcg has quit IRC[22:01:20] *** Saltsa has quit IRC[22:01:20] *** dahlblom has quit IRC[22:01:21] *** yousef_ has joined #opensolaris[22:01:22] *** fraggeln has joined #opensolaris[22:01:26] *** Pietro_S has joined #opensolaris[22:01:28] *** biafra_ has joined #opensolaris[22:01:40] *** SatManUK has joined #opensolaris[22:01:42] *** SYS64738 has joined #opensolaris[22:01:43] *** seanmcg has joined #opensolaris[22:01:51] *** d3xter has joined #opensolaris[22:02:00] *** pgr has joined #opensolaris[22:02:08] *** SatManUK is now known as Guest69652[22:02:42] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[22:04:25] *** niq has quit IRC[22:05:29] *** Guest69652 is now known as SatManUK[22:05:49] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[22:09:21] *** kitche has joined #opensolaris[22:10:58] *** pgr has quit IRC[22:11:42] *** Saltsa has joined #opensolaris[22:11:42] *** dahlblom has joined #opensolaris[22:11:42] *** mitrox has joined #opensolaris[22:12:17] *** JWheeler has quit IRC[22:21:12] *** gaveen has quit IRC[22:21:50] *** nidd has joined #opensolaris[22:23:30] *** muellisoft has joined #opensolaris[22:28:49] *** zzf256 has left #opensolaris[22:29:30] *** wokolad has quit IRC[22:30:37] *** spiff_ has joined #opensolaris[22:31:38] <spiff_> I'm having problems attaching a drive to a zpool...I keep getting IO-errors, even though the disk works fine[22:31:44] <spiff_> (2008.11)[22:32:13] *** capaz1 has joined #opensolaris[22:32:23] <spiff_> cfgadm -v states no errors, btw. 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