March 23, 2009 
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March 23, 2009 [00:06:29] *** jpd has left #opensolaris[00:07:46] *** f1assistance1 has left #opensolaris[00:08:44] *** m3lling has quit IRC[00:12:41] *** FurnaceBoy has quit IRC[00:16:48] *** mcluvin has joined #opensolaris[00:16:50] *** Fr4g-home has left #opensolaris[00:19:07] *** ken is now known as ken-zZz[00:19:39] *** lathiat_ has joined #opensolaris[00:19:52] *** sahX has quit IRC[00:20:54] *** mcluvin has left #opensolaris[00:21:11] *** AxeZ has quit IRC[00:22:04] *** stewart has joined #opensolaris[00:24:26] *** fr4g-home has joined #opensolaris[00:26:22] *** lathiat has quit IRC[00:26:40] <tom__> whats the difference between solaris and linux?[00:26:51] *** kate21de has joined #opensolaris[00:27:07] *** nachox has quit IRC[00:27:35] <oninoshiko> solaris is a UNIX system. Linux is a bad copy[00:27:50] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris[00:28:04] <tom__> ah k.[00:28:13] <tom__> a bad copy? linux 0wns[00:28:14] <tom__> :D[00:28:54] <oninoshiko> let me append that to make it correct "the record for ABI changes"[00:32:40] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[00:34:30] <xRaich[o]2x> tom__: and what exactly does linux own? name 5 real innovations that come from linux ;)[00:34:54] *** fr4g-home has quit IRC[00:36:33] <oninoshiko> the single worst implementation of NFS?[00:37:02] <tom__> installing solaris for the first time now so its hard to say[00:37:03] <nachox> fuse is cool, but i dont know if that qualifies as "innovation"[00:37:07] <xRaich[o]2x> worst documentation on the planet :P[00:37:28] <tom__> so does solaris use KDE and gnome ?[00:37:39] <nachox> gnome[00:39:01] <xRaich[o]2x> kde on belenix[00:39:43] *** Odin- has quit IRC[00:42:44] <tom__> so does solaris play nice with windows?[00:42:50] <tom__> in terms of domains/file sharing[00:43:07] *** e-jat has quit IRC[00:43:07] *** kate21de1 has quit IRC[00:43:22] *** gretel has quit IRC[00:43:36] *** kindyroot has quit IRC[00:44:11] *** ggeecko has quit IRC[00:45:02] *** Zikla has quit IRC[00:46:04] <nachox> tom__, the same way linux does, it uses samba too though for enterprise environments it has a cool cifs service which integrates with ad and maps users, you cannot however login with your windows user with just that[00:48:40] *** Zikla has joined #opensolaris[00:49:03] *** yarihm has quit IRC[00:51:37] *** Garen_ is now known as Garen[00:53:47] *** daedaluz has quit IRC[00:58:55] *** libkeise1 has joined #opensolaris[00:59:02] *** gehmehgeh has quit IRC[01:00:48] *** pacmanlives has joined #opensolaris[01:01:17] <pacmanlives> is wine avalable on opensolaris?[01:01:40] *** jdfiles has joined #opensolaris[01:01:42] *** chomchom has joined #opensolaris[01:01:46] *** lzk has joined #opensolaris[01:01:52] <oninoshiko> it is included in Spec-Files-Extra[01:02:20] <pacmanlives> is that like a third party repo[01:03:03] *** cwebber has quit IRC[01:03:07] <pacmanlives> i would like to try opensolaris. just trying to see if it has all the software i use a day to day bases[01:03:58] <oninoshiko> It's a collection of files to build SysV packages. they work great for SXCE.[01:04:18] <Zikla> I compiled it from source to get it to work, and there's a version on IPS too[01:04:49] <Zikla> The one in IPS doesn't run steam, the one I compiled from source does[01:05:33] <pacmanlives> nice![01:05:38] *** comay has joined #opensolaris[01:05:52] *** bmonroe has joined #opensolaris[01:05:59] <Zikla> No sound in Wine though, only major issue I've run into[01:06:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay[01:06:12] <chomchom> Hello, I am looking to obtain access to general 'open source' project figures. I'm trying to find correlation between the no. of projects started in a particular year and the hot topics in IT. Has anyone any helpful suggestions they could recommend?[01:06:17] <pacmanlives> i use it for dvdshrink[01:06:40] <Zikla> Never used dvdshrink[01:06:42] <oninoshiko> i think alot of the SFE files, were being put in the /contrib repo[01:06:49] *** comay has quit IRC[01:07:44] <bmonroe> Hey all[01:08:00] *** libkeise2 has joined #opensolaris[01:08:15] <bmonroe> I have a bit of an issue I was wondering is someone could give me some advice on.[01:08:38] <bmonroe> Is it kosher to talk about Solaris 10?[01:09:06] <bmonroe> or is this OpenSolaris discussion only?[01:09:22] <oninoshiko> well it's not as bad as a cheeseburger[01:09:57] <radsy> bmonroe, have you tried #solaris ?[01:10:05] <xRaich[o]2x> bmonroe: i think #solaris is a better choice ;)[01:10:13] <bmonroe> Okay. THanks![01:10:18] <oninoshiko> but #solaris might be more helpful[01:10:28] *** bmonroe has left #opensolaris[01:10:41] *** tosh has quit IRC[01:11:45] *** libkeiser has quit IRC[01:12:37] <axisys> i am having trouble to copy the vtoc of disk 1 to disk 0 .. http://pastebin.com/d7450e6a2[01:15:16] <axisys> any idea what I can try to fix that ?[01:15:23] *** nitrile has quit IRC[01:15:25] *** s1gn4lb0y has joined #opensolaris[01:20:28] *** jdfiles has left #opensolaris[01:22:40] *** pacmanlives has quit IRC[01:24:11] *** cwebber has joined #opensolaris[01:27:16] *** libkeise2 has quit IRC[01:28:23] *** libkeiser has joined #opensolaris[01:29:08] *** throatwarbler has joined #opensolaris[01:32:03] *** bgupta has quit IRC[01:32:27] *** libkeise1 has quit IRC[01:32:30] <tomww> axisys: I think the non-equal geometry of the two disks inhibits placing the vtoc on the other disk[01:32:31] *** bgupta has joined #opensolaris[01:32:41] *** ricardo-vlh has quit IRC[01:32:56] <tomww> you want to migrate the data between the disks or do you want to mirror?[01:33:34] *** arpunk has joined #opensolaris[01:33:51] *** ggeecko has joined #opensolaris[01:36:35] *** libkeise1 has joined #opensolaris[01:39:55] *** kate21de has quit IRC[01:43:23] *** e-jat has joined #opensolaris[01:47:54] *** ShadowHntr has joined #opensolaris[01:48:40] *** asarch has joined #opensolaris[01:48:40] <ShadowHntr> is there a firewall i can easily shut off in OS 2008.11? i've gotten SSH to work and nothing else[01:48:54] <ShadowHntr> is network/physical:default the right service to disable?[01:49:07] *** libkeiser has quit IRC[01:49:11] <tomww> no, that's parto of the interface initialization[01:49:31] <ShadowHntr> then what's blocking the other services from being reachable[01:49:36] *** mshadle has joined #opensolaris[01:49:40] <tomww> you can choose between static networking, thats :default and dynamic thats :nwam[01:49:45] <ShadowHntr> ahhhh[01:50:00] <mshadle> so i am confused - i did the full install of snv_110, and now it's rebooted and all ig et is a raw grub prompt. what happened to the menu?[01:50:13] <tomww> there ase some services switched o local/network by "netservices" utility[01:50:23] <throatwarbler> What Tomww said :)[01:50:37] <tomww> mshadle: you did it?[01:50:42] *** crink has joined #opensolaris[01:50:44] <mshadle> yup[01:50:45] <tomww> mshadle: you did type "reboot" ?[01:50:47] <mshadle> i blew outthe old install[01:50:54] <mshadle> no, i had it do the auto reboot / auto eject[01:51:06] <mshadle> ive never had to do anything manual w/ grub in past installs[01:51:28] <oninoshiko> hrm... that shouldnt happen[01:51:30] <throatwarbler> by default services are turned off. Check the servide property config/local_only on the services in question.[01:51:31] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #opensolaris[01:51:36] <tomww> mshadle: if you want a reboot wiht creating a boot-archive, that's "init 6" to go through all runlevels down, including the stopscript which recreates the boot-archive an dmany other stuf.f[01:51:37] <throatwarbler> svcprop -p config/local_only sendmail[01:51:37] <throatwarbler> true[01:51:49] <tomww> prossobly your grun configuration is incomplete[01:52:20] *** LeftWing has joined #OpenSolaris[01:52:53] <tomww> mshadle: you might type in the 3 lines into grub by hand.[01:53:20] <crink> hi does anyone know any company that customizing opensparc board?[01:53:33] <tomww> well, it's too late for me in my timezone. good night![01:54:28] <crink> say, company like sparkfun (but this company doesn't )[01:54:51] *** SQlvpapir^ has quit IRC[01:55:53] *** libkeiser has joined #opensolaris[01:55:53] <mshadle> yeah i have to figure out which 3 lines, heh[01:56:09] * mshadle will look at his other box[01:56:11] <tomww> ShadowHntr: netservices open might be what you want (read the manpage, it opens many ports/services to the net)[01:56:42] <tomww> mshadle: remember the grub <TAB> autocompletion works for many of the parameters.[01:57:02] <oninoshiko> not offhand, but there are engeneering firms which could, it's an open platform. none of them wiould be cheap, i'd imagine[01:57:30] <tomww> e.g. root (hd0,<TAB> and choose the partition-number. at the end don't forget the letter at the end for the slices (e.g. root (hd0,2,a) )[01:57:34] *** sarahjelinek has joined #opensolaris[01:57:53] <mshadle> well ive got my menu.lst from my other box, but it uses[01:57:56] <mshadle> bootfs rpool/ROOT/snv_104[01:57:57] <mshadle> etc[01:57:58] <oninoshiko> it would only be worth-wihile of you planned on doing a production run and selling systems.[01:58:07] <ShadowHntr> tomww: thanks, this box is behind a firewall and i'm trying out some new software. i'll remember that. =)[01:58:40] <tomww> mshadle: then you should remember the name of the instance.[01:58:56] <tomww> mshadle: was it SXCE or OS200x.yy ?[01:58:59] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC[01:59:12] <mshadle> sxce snv_110[01:59:34] <tomww> and you never get the grub menu?[02:00:14] *** mib_qjdmxqm2 has joined #opensolaris[02:00:29] <mshadle> nope. skips directly to a grub prompt.[02:00:33] <mshadle> ive rebooted too..[02:00:38] <mshadle> ugh[02:00:42][02:01:01] <tomww> try the rood command first.... root ( then TAB[02:01:07] <tomww> should give hd0 hd1 ...[02:01:18] *** sarahjelinek has quit IRC[02:01:28] <mshadle> it cant mount[02:01:39] <tomww> doesnt matter at this point[02:02:02] <tomww> does it present the harddisks named "hd0" "hd1" ...?[02:02:13] *** d6g has joined #opensolaris[02:02:24] <mshadle> yes[02:02:37] <mshadle> and i can root(hd0,0) etc.. and none of them give a recognizable string[02:02:55] <tomww> well, hd0,0 is not a solaris diskk... missing letter for the slice[02:03:19] <tomww> should be root (hd0,0,a) or something a = S0 b = S1 and so on[02:03:35] <mshadle> ah[02:03:52] <tomww> if grub likes your disk, then it prints proudly "ufs" or "zfs"[02:03:57] <mshadle> when i do root (hd0,0,a) it says ufs[02:03:59] *** mib_qjdmxqm2 has quit IRC[02:04:04] <mshadle> even though i told this to install ZFS..[02:04:07] <mshadle> for boot[02:04:18] <tomww> ah, you didn't choos zfs ar your root-filesystem or did you?[02:04:22] <mshadle> yes i did[02:04:28] <tomww> there are bigs with auto-detection of the filesystem-type[02:04:33] <mshadle> the -old- stuff on this disk was ufs[02:04:40] <mshadle> but that should have been blown away.[02:04:49] <tomww> it misinterpretes old stuff laying around not beeing dleted with an overwrite-installation...[02:05:35] *** libkeise1 has quit IRC[02:05:46] <tomww> if you doin't mind, your would make sure to write on the right place, and wipe out the first few megabytes of the disk (say, 50MB to catch the fist cylinders (8mb, 16mb each))[02:05:50] <mshadle> i mean if i have to ill do another full reinstall but i need to know where to BLOW the shit out of the disk[02:06:15] <tomww> you may boot the DVD, then go tot the shell prompt[02:06:18] <tomww> format -e[02:06:39] <tomww> should list your disks and more important the name solaris knows for the disk[02:06:54] <mshadle> can i just destroy the MBR[02:07:01] <mshadle> and do a full reinstall? :)[02:07:10] <tomww> is the disk completely dedicated to solaris or are there other OSSes on the disk?[02:07:15] <mshadle> dedicated[02:07:19] <tomww> the MBR is not the problem![02:07:37] *** taltamir has joined #opensolaris[02:07:45] <mshadle> when i boot from the install DVD which option do i choose[02:07:47] <tomww> it is on the solaris type fdisk-partition say c0t0d0s0 and there the first few megabytes[02:08:12] <tomww> options "signel user shell" that is presented for a few seconds after the kernel is loaded[02:08:22] *** libkeise1 has joined #opensolaris[02:08:31] <tomww> from grub choose text install if that is present[02:10:08] <tomww> the workaround is, to overwrite the frst few megabytes of the partiton (zfs). you'll have to reinstall the whole solaris after that.[02:10:36] <tomww> is that okay? no data will be left over from the previous installation.[02:10:57] <mshadle> sec[02:11:28] *** rovalent has quit IRC[02:13:06] <mshadle> could it just be an out of date boot archive?[02:13:17] <mshadle> when i went into single user it asked if i wanted to mount rpool on /a[02:13:23] *** alain10 has quit IRC[02:13:28] <mshadle> i said yes, then it said hey, your boot archive is out of date/messed up[02:13:30] <mshadle> i bet that's it.[02:14:59] <Garen> Anyone see this: http://www.cio.com/article/485863/IBM_Said_to_Be_Poring_Over_Sun_s_Contracts?taxonomyId=1448 ?[02:15:25] *** Topdeck has joined #opensolaris[02:16:41] <oninoshiko> unconfermed reports about an unconfermed deal from an unnamed source.[02:16:43] <mshadle> that wasnt it . heh[02:17:30] <Garen> yeah :)[02:18:05] <oninoshiko> the reality is that at this point anything you read is speculation about speculation.[02:18:18] *** sarahjelinek has joined #opensolaris[02:18:24] *** jtmuzix has joined #opensolaris[02:18:25] <oninoshiko> wait for someone to announce something concreate[02:19:05] <mshadle> okay, i did "format -e" and then selected the disk[02:19:15] <mshadle> now how can i wreck it so a fresh snv_110 install wont mess up.[02:19:21] <mshadle> or, fix the existing one somehow[02:19:31] *** gm152 has joined #opensolaris[02:20:44] *** sarahjelinek has quit IRC[02:21:45] <tomww> mshadle: no. the boot archive has noting to do with brub's filesystem-type detection[02:21:49] <tomww> *grub[02:22:49] <tomww> mshadle: writing blank zeros to the first few cylinder should avoid the probelm for grub not recognizing a valid filesystem.[02:22:51] <mshadle> i nuked it[02:22:58] <mshadle> i deleted the partition completely[02:23:04] <tomww> fromat prints a device string like c0t0d0 ?[02:23:09] <mshadle> yes[02:23:17] <tomww> nothing helps deletig the partition[02:23:21] *** throatwarbler has left #opensolaris[02:23:28] *** Topdeck_ has quit IRC[02:23:33] <tomww> because the old crap is still there, even afte recreating.[02:23:40] <mshadle> hrm[02:23:52] <mshadle> okay so then in this tool how do i mess the disk up so it's like bran dnew[02:23:52] <tomww> okay. take that c0t0d string and form this dd command:[02:23:57] <oninoshiko> you want to use dd[02:24:17] <mshadle> ahyeah.[02:24:33] <tomww> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/dsk/c0t0d0s0 *if* your first slice of the disk should be your root-zpool[02:24:44] *** qiyong has joined #opensolaris[02:25:02] <tomww> and acc bs=8225280 count=10 this will write 10 time 8MB to the place where your zpool starts (+destroy it)[02:25:35] <tomww> replace the c0t0d0 part with your actual disk name[02:25:40] <tomww> and add the S0.[02:26:24] <tomww> might be that your partition deletion prevents success, but that's not difficult to recreate a slice beginning at the same first few cylinders[02:27:08] <mshadle> ook well i did fdisk[02:27:09] <mshadle> and killed it[02:27:12] <mshadle> so all i have is c0d0[02:27:23] <tomww> then you'll have to recreate the fdisk partiton first[02:27:30] <mshadle> and when i did format -e, and selected the disk it asked me how many heads/cylinders/etc[02:27:41] <tomww> format never lies :-[02:27:42] <tomww> )[02:28:00] *** stevel has quit IRC[02:28:04] <tomww> you have another choice then[02:28:05] *** libkeiser has quit IRC[02:28:22] <tomww> you could write to the base diisk device:[02:28:32] <mshadle> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/dsk/c0d0 ?[02:28:43] <tomww> dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/dsk/c0d0p0 bs=8225280 count=20[02:28:58] <tomww> this will even overwite the mbr[02:29:38] <tomww> "p0" pseudo partition zero, the begginnin gof the disk and not of the first primary dos-fdisk-partition (that would be p1 and second is p2 and so on)[02:30:31] <tomww> after that init 6 and resinstall. first reboot after instaall should work fine.[02:31:23] <tomww> I think we are done. I have to go to bed now (and dream of a spell checkker for my IRC clien / irssi)[02:31:33] *** jtmuzix has quit IRC[02:32:15] <mshadle> when i try "verify" in format it shows many slices left[02:32:50] <mshadle> ill use the partitioner better[02:32:57] <mshadle> i think i left the slices as is and just highlighted the top choice[02:33:00] <mshadle> maybe that's why.[02:33:58] <tomww> you might want c0d0s0 to be 30GB for the OS wiht all of it's snapshots/liveupgrade-copies[02:34:11] <tomww> and S3 to be the rest of the disk and make a separate zpool[02:34:55] <tomww> so keep home-directorys always always out of the "rpool", as you won't store your application data on a boot-disk[02:35:31] *** dclarke has joined #opensolaris[02:35:34] <dclarke> test[02:35:53] <tomww> then you'll have good chances to do liveupgrade and oother work on rpool which only contains OS packages and only little configuration data (which can be always sirvived it that goes lost)[02:36:01] <mshadle> i symlink my /home stuff to my data pool[02:36:07] <tomww> the dos-fdisk partiton is then alwaays 100% solaris disk[02:36:17] <mshadle> so that's fine.[02:36:19] <mshadle> hrm.[02:36:22] <tomww> no! symlinks in times of ZFS! :-)[02:36:24] <mshadle> i still get a grub prompt[02:36:38] <mshadle> i guess i could set mountpoitns but i hardly use it[02:36:42] <tomww> you want a reinstall fromthe DVD now[02:36:53] *** dclarke has left #opensolaris[02:36:58] <tomww> zfs create -o mountpoint=/home data/home[02:37:49] <tomww> that's it. you can have two or more copies of SXCE on the disk and always haave your working environmment on the static data pool.[02:38:11] <tomww> you might have to change boot-order to DVD?[02:39:20] <tomww> I'll be offline now. If you have any questions the others may help out :-)[02:40:09] <mshadle> wow now the install DVD is stalling on interactive console session[02:40:17] <mshadle> normally it loads prety quick. now the cursor has even stopped loading[02:40:18] <mshadle> sigh[02:41:00] *** m3lling has joined #opensolaris[02:41:11] *** Rocket2DMn has quit IRC[02:48:18] <gkl> does opensolaris come with any free vnc software?[02:48:26] <gkl> or could anyone recommend any that work well with opensolaris?[02:50:36] *** Chipdancer has joined #opensolaris[02:54:23] <tomww> mshadle: what is you motherboard chipset? nvidia?[03:03:36] <brett_> gkl: yes, it comes with vnc[03:03:56] *** pacmanlives has joined #opensolaris[03:04:35] <brett_> it's xvnc, if that matters.[03:04:46] <brett_> but all the normal things work, including xrandr[03:09:47] *** cypromis has quit IRC[03:11:05] *** asarch has quit IRC[03:11:06] <pacmanlives> what repo can i find flash player?[03:11:46] <gkl> thank you brett_[03:11:51] <gkl> is that both indiana and nevada?[03:15:26] <Zikla> I think flash player comes in nevada[03:15:39] *** sahX has joined #opensolaris[03:15:40] <Zikla> I don't think it's in IPS but I could be wrong[03:15:51] <Zikla> I always just installed the one from adobe.com[03:16:10] <pacmanlives> k[03:16:21] <pacmanlives> what about smplayer[03:16:22] <oninoshiko> isnt the license restrictive... i dont think it can be in IPS...[03:17:05] <brett_> gkl: yep[03:17:11] <Zikla> I dunno about smplayer, I got mplayer from blastwave[03:17:49] <pacmanlives> yea seen that 1 from bw[03:17:50] <oninoshiko> i think mplayer is also in SFE, but it might be in "encumbered" due to patant restrictions on codecs[03:18:08] <pacmanlives> libcss is in pending....[03:18:16] <pacmanlives> so that should not be an issue[03:18:33] <oninoshiko> are you sure libcss is what you think it is?[03:18:40] *** Matson_ has left #opensolaris[03:19:09] <Zikla> All I found in IPS is something called "templayer" which looks like a python script[03:19:43] <oninoshiko> for example, are you sure it's not for processing "Cascadeing Style Sheets"[03:20:03] <pacmanlives> i will double check[03:20:16] <Zikla> All this stuff in IPS needs more description[03:20:46] <pacmanlives> i need to understand this stuff more[03:21:00] *** T5 has quit IRC[03:21:17] <pacmanlives> i did a system update via gui.... but no packages where updated[03:21:53] <pacmanlives> firefox is still 3.0.4 pidgin is still 2.5.1[03:22:02] <pacmanlives> did i miss something?[03:22:34] <pacmanlives> package is listed as libdvdcss[03:22:34] <Zikla> Did you reboot?[03:22:37] <pacmanlives> yea[03:22:43] <Zikla> Did you choose the new BE?[03:22:54] *** TT has joined #opensolaris[03:23:09] <pacmanlives> selected opensolaris-2[03:23:25] <pacmanlives> uname help?[03:23:40] *** will_robinson2 has joined #opensolaris[03:23:42] <Zikla> uname help what?[03:23:54] <pacmanlives> would that help to see if updated[03:24:03] <Zikla> I don't think so[03:24:05] <pacmanlives> kernel ver or somehthing[03:24:17] <pacmanlives> brb[03:24:24] <Zikla> Oh, yes[03:24:28] <Zikla> SunOS akoda 5.11 snv_109 i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris[03:24:50] <Zikla> That snv_109 will probably change :P[03:25:04] <pacmanlives> SunOS opensolaris 5.11 snv_101b i86pc i386 i86pc Solaris[03:25:20] <pacmanlives> so still old kernel[03:25:30] <Zikla> I don't think that's the kernel version[03:25:52] <pacmanlives> dose it update the grub menu to add the new kernel as default?[03:26:04] <Zikla> I do believe so[03:26:12] <pacmanlives> odd...[03:27:19] *** s1gn4lb0y has quit IRC[03:28:29] *** asarch has joined #opensolaris[03:28:31] <Zikla> do `beadm list`[03:29:15] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[03:29:51] *** will_robinson2 has left #opensolaris[03:31:53] <IvanR_> There's a repository for non-distributable packages on pkg.sun.com, you need a sun.com login, free one works fine.[03:33:01] *** sle_ has quit IRC[03:33:30] *** cwebber has quit IRC[03:33:43] *** cwebber has joined #opensolaris[03:36:48] *** [RIT]Rawn027 has joined #opensolaris[03:37:44] <[RIT]Rawn027> does xvm build on solaris 10 or do i need opensolaris?[03:37:53] <pacmanlives> sharp@opensolaris:/boot/grub$ beadm list[03:37:53] <pacmanlives> BE Active Mountpoint Space Policy Created[03:37:53] <pacmanlives> opensolaris - - 54.64M static 2009-03-22 20:34[03:37:53] <pacmanlives> opensolaris-1 - - 82.35M static 2009-03-22 21:21[03:37:53] <pacmanlives> opensolaris-2 NR / 2.61G static 2009-03-22 21:26[03:38:10] <pacmanlives> sorry for the flood[03:38:17] <Zikla> Then yeah, you're in the newest one :/[03:39:03] <Zikla> Did you add the /dev repository and update from that?[03:39:26] <pacmanlives> no i have not added the dev repo[03:39:31] <Zikla> There we go[03:39:52] <Zikla> If you're still using the 2008.11 release repo you're not gonna get much updated :P[03:40:19] <pacmanlives> o they dont update the release software[03:40:32] <Zikla> No, that's the software at release time[03:40:49] <pacmanlives> o gotcha.[03:41:26] <Zikla> Add /dev, make it your preferred repo, and then do it again and you should get everything updatesd[03:41:28] <Zikla> updated*[03:41:30] <JWheeler> rawn, I think you need opensolaris to build the code, but the binaries are likely available for solaris 10 though.[03:41:38] <pacmanlives> the dev repo stable?[03:41:44] *** jfisc has joined #opensolaris[03:42:11] *** erast has quit IRC[03:42:16] <pacmanlives> let me rephrase that how stable is the dev repo[03:42:22] <Zikla> Stable enough for me[03:42:33] <Zikla> I haven't had anything crash more often after updating from /dev[03:42:45] <pacmanlives> o cool[03:42:47] <Zikla> Less often now that I can send offline messages to MSN users in pidgin[03:43:24] <pacmanlives> well i will add the dev repo[03:44:04] <DesiJat> how can i run 'pkg' to give me a list of stuff available from the repository[03:44:08] <DesiJat> ?[03:44:11] <DesiJat> list just gives me what i have[03:49:16] <IvanR_> DesiJat: -r to query the repositories[03:49:31] <DesiJat> what are the names of the repos tho?[03:49:37] <DesiJat> like..how do i find that out[03:51:13] <IvanR_> By default you'll just have the release repo, "pkg authority" will display which ones pkg knows about, but there's no central listing of every repo.[03:51:57] <IvanR_> On pkg.opensolaris.org there's release, dev, contrib, and pending.[03:52:28] <DesiJat> ok...[03:52:39] <IvanR_> pkg.sun.com has a non-redistributable "extras" repo, blastwave publishes some IPS packages now, don't know the url off the top of my head.[03:53:39] <DesiJat> k[03:54:32] <Zikla> I have 'em, just a sec[03:55:07] <Zikla> Blastwave is http://blastwave.network.com:10000/[03:56:09] *** [RIT]Rawn027 has quit IRC[03:56:28] <pacmanlives> boy dose opensolaris eat ram....[03:57:16] <Zikla> RAM is cheap :P[03:57:45] * pacmanlives = poor college kid[03:58:49] <xRaich[o]2x> don't smoke don't drink alcohol for a mount and buy ram from the money you save[03:58:49] <Zikla> I'm poor too, but when I want memory I eat ramen until I have money for memory :P[03:59:04] <xRaich[o]2x> s/mount/month/[03:59:29] <Zikla> That helps too, I don't smoke or drink, my only addictions are hotsauce and caffiene[04:00:54] <pacmanlives> lol[04:01:21] <pacmanlives> no drinking i might kill my self after a week :D[04:01:39] <xRaich[o]2x> so you are not poor[04:01:48] <xRaich[o]2x> you actually have too much money[04:02:21] <pacmanlives> yes way to rich why i drive a 90 accord ....[04:02:39] <Zikla> Ah, I'm way richer than you, mine's a 95 accord :P[04:02:41] <pacmanlives> she only has 210,000 on her[04:02:58] <DesiJat> 4GB of RAM for a MacBook Laptop is $49[04:02:59] <pacmanlives> yours have the honda rust?[04:03:03] <DesiJat> in 2 2GB sticks.[04:03:07] <xRaich[o]2x> i don't have a car so?[04:03:08] <DesiJat> so..yeah.[04:03:11] <DesiJat> RAM is cheap[04:03:43] <Zikla> Honda rust?[04:04:14] <pacmanlives> rear fenders rust out on all honda[04:04:34] <pacmanlives> living in ohio lots of salt during the winter advance it[04:04:49] <Zikla> Ah, I'm in Florida, so we don't salt our roads.[04:06:54] *** sarahjelinek has joined #opensolaris[04:07:23] <xRaich[o]2x> DesiJat: you don't get it, people prefer to whine how much ram solaris uses and that they are way too poor to afford it. but at the same time they brag about how much they spend on alcohol :P[04:08:35] <DesiJat> xRaich[o]2x: amazing. :/[04:08:50] <pacmanlives> xRaich[o]2x: linux runs fine this amt of ram[04:08:58] <DesiJat> cuz linux sucks ass[04:09:00] <DesiJat> and doesnt have ZFS[04:09:06] <DesiJat> and is made to run on shitty ass computers[04:09:11] <Zikla> DOS runs fine on that amount of RAM also[04:09:14] <pacmanlives> and freebsd[04:09:15] <xRaich[o]2x> no zfs, no dtrace, no smf.... way to go :P[04:09:16] <DesiJat> bingo[04:09:19] <DesiJat> see[04:09:26] <pacmanlives> dos dosent support gig of ram[04:09:36] <DesiJat> if u want cool features and important things like DATA SNAPSHOTS (gasp!), u need RAM[04:09:42] <DesiJat> if u take out all that shit on Solaris, it'll run fine also[04:09:46] <DesiJat> it'll be called Solaris 9[04:10:21] <Zikla> Modern, cutting-edge OSes are designed to take advantage of modern, cutting-edge hardware[04:10:27] <xRaich[o]2x> if you use zfs an freebsd the kernel actually warns you that less then 512MB of ram are the absolute minimum[04:10:38] <DesiJat> even my damn $48/month Amazon EC2 virtual instance has 1.7GB of RAM[04:11:07] <pacmanlives> u guys are to funny[04:11:21] <pacmanlives> get all fired up about talking about ram[04:11:26] <DesiJat> actually[04:11:34] *** sarahjelinek has quit IRC[04:11:34] <DesiJat> i think the firing up was about alcohol[04:12:05] <xRaich[o]2x> i really don't get why people think that every os on earth should be able to run on toasters :P[04:12:20] <DesiJat> OS X is the superior OS though[04:12:27] <DesiJat> it runs on an iPhone, and iPod Touch[04:12:30] <pacmanlives> xRaich[o]2x: you must be an apple fan[04:12:31] <DesiJat> and has a great interface[04:12:43] <Zikla> I like OS X.[04:12:48] <benley> oh yeah osx makes such a great server OS too. </sarcasm>[04:12:56] <Zikla> It works great as a laptop OS.[04:12:59] <xRaich[o]2x> i also like it. i actually think about buying a macbook[04:13:01] <Zikla> Which is all I use it for.[04:13:09] <xRaich[o]2x> pacmanlives: i don't have apple hardware running here[04:13:09] <DesiJat> benley: Thankfully Solaris makes a such a great client OS too. </sarcasm>[04:13:24] * benley patpats his macbook air[04:13:30] * DesiJat pats his macbook pro[04:13:39] * DesiJat hugs his Amazon EC2 instance[04:13:39] * Zikla pats his Macbook Air also[04:13:45] * pacmanlives pats his late 08 mac pro[04:13:45] * DesiJat reassures his Sun Blade 2000[04:13:58] * DesiJat scowls at his x2100 and x4100 "Loud bastards!"[04:15:55] * xRaich[o]2x pats his cheap consumer thinkpad... with 4gigs of ram[04:16:09] <pacmanlives> NTFS support on solaris[04:16:16] <pacmanlives> yes no?[04:16:38] <Zikla> I think it exists, though it's an addon[04:16:48] <pacmanlives> cool[04:16:54] <pacmanlives> what about ext3[04:16:55] <benley> I think you can use the ntfs-ng userland stuff from linux with fuse on solaris.[04:16:58] <Zikla> "FSWfspart" and "FSWfsmisc" sound familiar[04:17:03] <pacmanlives> o cool[04:17:10] <Zikla> Google 'em and you'll fin dit[04:17:17] <Zikla> find it*[04:17:19] <DesiJat> i gotta try Fuse on solaris on of these days[04:17:24] <DesiJat> MacFuse kicks major as[04:17:27] <DesiJat> sshfs ftw[04:17:40] <pacmanlives> i will do that after i get this update done[04:18:09] *** nachox has quit IRC[04:18:34] <xRaich[o]2x> dang already 4 am.... spend too much time coding today -_-[04:19:02] <pacmanlives> dang 4am where u from england[04:19:10] <xRaich[o]2x> germany[04:19:10] <DesiJat> I need to get HP to send me a damn HP Mini 1000 so i can review it[04:20:04] <DesiJat> (i'd buy one.., but i spent all my money on booze and RAM)[04:20:06] <DesiJat> (hah!)[04:20:24] <pacmanlives> more like crack[04:21:00] <pacmanlives> nothings better then doing blow off a hookers ass :P[04:22:12] <DesiJat> smells like doodoo, i bet :/[04:22:18] <tom__> off the belly is nice[04:22:48] <pacmanlives> Zikla: i have 500+ updates now that i added the dev repo! thanks![04:23:56] *** MatPVB has joined #opensolaris[04:24:29] *** fr4g-home has joined #opensolaris[04:24:53] <Zikla> :B[04:24:59] <Zikla> It was like that for me too[04:25:19] *** MatPVB has quit IRC[04:25:33] <Zikla> "Oh this is gonna be all night evaluating packages...I'll just go to sleep and reboot it when I wake up". Went to sleep.[04:25:43] <Zikla> Woke up to a screen that wanted me to confirm what I wanted to do. Yay.[04:25:51] <Zikla> Clicked, went to work, rebooted when I got back from work :p[04:26:28] *** MatPVB has joined #opensolaris[04:27:13] <gkl> can anyone give me an idea of the memory requirements of X?[04:27:38] <gkl> like if I want to run an opensolaris server that runs an X server but is headless by itself, would I be able to do it on minimal memory?[04:27:44] <gkl> as in, 512M of physical ram[04:27:55] <DesiJat> sure.[04:28:07] <gkl> opensolaris wouldn't let me install with less than 512[04:28:08] <DesiJat> if u can install...[04:28:10] <gkl> which is why I ask[04:28:16] <DesiJat> if u can install it[04:28:19] <DesiJat> then u can run it[04:28:38] <DesiJat> stick with ufs as yer FS[04:28:41] <gkl> well, I'd prefer not to be running half my system off of swap[04:28:50] <gkl> oh, zfs uses up lots?[04:28:53] <DesiJat> yes[04:29:00] <gkl> that's a good thing to know[04:29:01] <gkl> thank you[04:29:07] <DesiJat> easiest thing, get more ram[04:29:14] <DesiJat> you'll thank yourself for it[04:29:15] <gkl> yeah, I know[04:29:32] <gkl> maybe one of these days I'll finally listen[04:29:38] <DesiJat> maybe.[04:29:43] <gkl> :)[04:29:46] <gkl> thank you for the help[04:29:49] *** MatPVB has quit IRC[04:36:16] *** cemerick has joined #opensolaris[04:40:40] *** tom__ has quit IRC[04:41:39] <ShadowHntr> anyone here run the freenx+nx package on opensolaris lately?[04:41:45] <ShadowHntr> i can't find any config files anywhere[04:41:57] <ShadowHntr> and it's giving some config errors on install that i can't resolve[04:42:40] *** tom_ has joined #opensolaris[04:46:16] *** jfisc has quit IRC[04:48:08] *** asarch has quit IRC[04:48:52] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris[04:51:27] <xRaich[o]2x> n8 folks. time for some sleep[04:51:32] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[04:51:52] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU[04:55:36] *** xy|ox has quit IRC[04:58:03] *** Topdeck_ has joined #opensolaris[04:58:56] *** sartek_ has joined #opensolaris[05:03:23] *** crink has quit IRC[05:07:08] *** Topdeck has quit IRC[05:08:17] *** Zikla has quit IRC[05:11:31] *** Zikla has joined #opensolaris[05:18:09] *** tarbo has quit IRC[05:18:21] *** dclarke has joined #opensolaris[05:19:03] <dclarke> anyone know anything about why sound doesn't work here for me ? On Solaris 10 by the way and Sun Ultra 20, fully patched and yet, no sound regardless if I am running GNOME/JDS or KDE or whatever[05:24:21] <dclarke> guess not[05:24:30] *** dclarke has left #opensolaris[05:24:45] *** mroconno1 has joined #opensolaris[05:25:00] *** gm152 has quit IRC[05:25:20] *** mroconno1 is now known as mroconnor_[05:30:23] *** fr4g-home has quit IRC[05:33:24] *** tarbo has joined #opensolaris[05:35:20] *** snowleopardcat has joined #opensolaris[05:36:43] <snowleopardcat> does anyone know why oracle has seemingly dropped solaris x86 as a supported operating system for most of their latest products?[05:37:25] <snowleopardcat> the other question would be, couldn't i just install oracle 11g, the linux version, on solaris?[05:37:33] <snowleopardcat> x86[05:38:13] *** alfredpeng has joined #opensolaris[05:38:32] <oninoshiko> not enough of their clients where running their products on solaris x86?[05:38:57] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju[05:40:39] <snowleopardcat> do you think the linux version would install on solaris?[05:40:56] <Zikla> Maybe in a lx brand zone[05:41:17] <snowleopardcat> what if i just added all the gnuisms?[05:41:36] <oninoshiko> maybe, I know I had some trouble getting domino into a lx branded zone[05:41:48] <oninoshiko> snowleopardcat: nope. completely different ABI[05:42:16] <oninoshiko> your best bets are either a branded zone you virtualbox[05:42:20] <snowleopardcat> this is really strange, oracle and solaris used to go toegther well[05:42:39] <snowleopardcat> i thought this would be the case, so I'm downloading unbreakable linux now[05:43:05] <snowleopardcat> hate to do it , haven't used linux much since solaris was opensourced[05:43:32] <snowleopardcat> but i need to have a dev enviroment for 11g and peoplesoft on my macbook[05:44:02] <snowleopardcat> wouldn't sparc be slower with oracle on the lower end machines?[05:46:05] *** capaz has quit IRC[05:47:09] <oninoshiko> i dont know much about how oracle scales.[05:48:19] *** alfredpeng has quit IRC[05:48:36] <snowleopardcat> i have a couple of servers that are SPARC IIi[05:48:50] *** pacmanlives has left #opensolaris[05:48:51] <snowleopardcat> don't think i want to install oracle on them though[05:49:39] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[05:51:26] <jbk> heh unbreakable* (* void in years with leap seconds)[05:52:32] <snowleopardcat> of course it sucks, and is breakable[05:53:01] <snowleopardcat> but i need to run oracle in a dev enviro[05:53:41] <gottadoit1> oracle is a secondary port on solaris x86 so its just very late in the delivery cycle[05:54:49] *** sartek_ has quit IRC[05:55:01] <gottadoit1> at my last job we did it and by the end I was of the opinion it was a mistake[05:56:15] <Zikla> Does this happen to anyone else? Whenever I run a zone, I give it a different IP from my global. When I do that and then reboot, on the next boot, my global zone as the IP address I gave my non-global.[05:56:38] <Zikla> Is my DHCP server dumb or could that be something else?[05:58:50] *** m3lling has quit IRC[06:00:00] <brett_> Zikla: never seen that[06:01:14] *** mib_zjkt21iz has joined #opensolaris[06:01:47] *** snowleopardcat has quit IRC[06:02:53] *** mib_zjkt21iz has left #opensolaris[06:03:09] *** mib_zjkt21iz has joined #opensolaris[06:03:14] *** mib_zjkt21iz has left #opensolaris[06:03:22] *** cemerick has quit IRC[06:03:26] *** mib_zjkt21iz has joined #opensolaris[06:03:32] *** mib_zjkt21iz has left #opensolaris[06:04:01] *** jbeda has joined #opensolaris[06:04:17] *** mib_utqlliyz has joined #opensolaris[06:04:20] <jbeda> Hi all -- I'm new to opensolaris and trying to figure stuff out[06:04:20] *** mib_utqlliyz has left #opensolaris[06:04:37] <jbeda> The problem I'm having now is colors in emacs, believe it or not[06:04:38] *** llragsll has joined #opensolaris[06:04:46] *** llragsll is now known as rags[06:04:54] <rags> I want sshd to check the ssh_known_hosts file for all connections and no the .ssh/known_hosts file that is created for each user...[06:05:13] <jbeda> When I ssh to my box, with OSX term, I get a wacky gray background[06:05:21] <jbeda> Is this a known issue? Any workarounds?[06:07:21] <brett_> jbeda: osx's idea of xterm-color is broken[06:07:31] <brett_> try setting your TERM to xterm[06:07:33] <rags> right now even if I put a host key in the global ssh_known_hosts the key confirmation dialog comes up..[06:08:00] <jbeda> sucks -- don't have any problems with linux boxes like this[06:08:41] <jbeda> This seems to imply that somehow the colors are coming from the gnome term setup: http://forums.opensolaris.com/thread.jspa?threadID=358&tstart=120[06:08:55] <brett_> it's a terminal.app problem, actually.[06:09:18] <brett_> and that thread isn't actually germane to your problem ;)[06:09:42] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU[06:09:44] <jbeda> heh -- any pointers on the iterm problem so I can dig into it?[06:10:10] <jbeda> (In reality, every time I start digging into an UNIX term issues, I live to regret it)[06:10:11] <brett_> just set your TERM to xtermc or xterm[06:11:27] <jbeda> hmm -- still happens with xtermc[06:11:47] <jbeda> xterm works tho[06:11:55] *** f00gl3h has quit IRC[06:12:12] <brett_> that's what i use for everything, fwiw[06:12:13] *** prdelka has joined #opensolaris[06:12:19] <brett_> xterm-color breaks screen in stupid ways[06:12:29] <brett_> so xterm is usually a safe default choice[06:13:28] <jbeda> screen as in gnu screen? I use it all the time on linux ubuntu/debian with no problems[06:13:51] <jbeda> xterm is a safe choice -- probably okay for this machine as I won't be using it to write code day to day[06:13:53] <jbeda> ah well;[06:13:59] <jbeda> thx for all your help[06:14:03] <brett_> ciao.[06:15:16] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[06:18:34] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju[06:19:55] <brett_> jbeda: you can also try putting http://www.bolthole.com/solaris/xterm-color into /usr/share/lib/terminfo/x/xterm-color[06:20:43] <brett_> if the one there isn't doing what you want.[06:20:52] <brett_> haven't tried that in ages tho, ymmv[06:24:06] <jbeda> Thanks -- I[06:24:11] <jbeda> I'll give that a try[06:26:12] <jbeda> yay -- that works![06:26:13] <jbeda> thanks[06:26:23] <rags> pure RSA authentication?[06:35:52] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris[06:36:16] *** sartek has joined #opensolaris[06:37:03] *** _coredump_ has quit IRC[06:37:25] *** _coredump_ has joined #opensolaris[06:39:58] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU[06:43:05] *** dclarke has joined #opensolaris[06:45:10] *** pt has joined #opensolaris[06:47:02] *** radsy has quit IRC[06:52:14] *** rags has quit IRC[06:55:10] *** kate21de has joined #opensolaris[06:55:36] *** capaz1 has joined #opensolaris[07:03:44] *** capaz has quit IRC[07:03:55] *** oxygen-a1dict has joined #opensolaris[07:04:25] *** krisis2 has joined #opensolaris[07:10:38] *** ken-zZz has quit IRC[07:11:03] *** dclarke has left #opensolaris[07:11:37] *** hotaru2k3 has joined #OpenSolaris[07:12:30] *** sahX has quit IRC[07:17:38] *** poshpaws has joined #opensolaris[07:18:07] <poshpaws> Greetings[07:18:11] <codestr0m> morning[07:19:59] *** oxygen-addict has quit IRC[07:21:23] <poshpaws> i am seeking some help with setting up the JDS build environment to allow me to rebuild jds , i see many different guides and howtos all telling a slightly different story .. if there a definative guide?[07:22:57] <sartek> poshpaws: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/jds/contributing/building/ ?[07:23:09] *** niq has quit IRC[07:26:41] <poshpaws> thanks sartek , i did follow this guide , but my builds keep failing very early on SUNWpython-setuptools for a bizzare error (the package builds but fails to be packaged as it claims there are missing files) - so i thought perhaps i am not doing something correctly[07:31:29] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[07:34:04] <krisis2> hi all, i am facing an issue with building jds trunk. I am getting stuck with docbook compilation error. Is it a known issue, if so any workarounds available?[07:38:34] <poshpaws> hi krisis2 , your gettiing more than I , what os/cbe version? and what install sequence did you follow[07:39:54] *** TT has quit IRC[07:41:28] <codestr0m> poshpaws / krisis2: the build system is horrible at best.. can you pastie the exact error you're getting and also include the env dump along with where you got the spec files and which tool you're using pkgtool, pkgbuild.. etc[07:42:16] <krisis2> codestr0m: / poshpaws: I am currently building a pkg, and i have lost my earlier logs[07:42:38] <krisis2> codestr0m: / poshpaws: I ll paste that in a while[07:42:43] <poshpaws> pkgbuild: File not found by glob: /var/tmp/pkgbuild-cbe/SUNWpython-setuptools-0.6.9-build/usr/share[07:42:44] <poshpaws> pkgbuild: File not found by glob: /var/tmp/pkgbuild-cbe/SUNWpython-setuptools-0.6.9-build/usr/share/doc[07:42:49] <codestr0m> krisis2: I don't need your logs.. pastie what error you get[07:43:11] <poshpaws> same error on trunk and gnome-2.24 branch[07:43:25] *** sartek has quit IRC[07:43:26] <krisis2> codestr0m: The error appears in the log, and i have no logs as of now.[07:43:29] <codestr0m> poshpaws: you didn't listen.. pastie the error, env, where you got the specs and what tool you're using[07:43:54] <codestr0m> the env can really screw up the build along with other things[07:44:36] <codestr0m> subsequently I don't know what the end goal is.. so if you guys want to include that maybe I can help in another way[07:44:53] <krisis2> codestr0m: Now i get a different error :( it asks me to upgrade my gtk-doc, i ll do that now and get back once I am getting the older error[07:45:19] * codestr0m feels sorry for people trying to build stuff on "open"solaris not using pkgcore[07:45:20] * poshpaws ok - env[07:45:23] <poshpaws> env[07:45:24] <poshpaws> HZ=[07:45:24] <poshpaws> M4=/opt/dtbld/bin/m4[07:45:25] <poshpaws> SHELL=/usr/bin/bash[07:45:25] <poshpaws> TERM=xterm[07:45:25] <poshpaws> CXX32=/opt/SUNWspro/bin/CC[07:45:26] <poshpaws> CC64=/opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc[07:45:28] <poshpaws> MAIL=/usr/mail/cbe[07:45:30] <codestr0m> poshpaws: pastie!!!![07:45:30] <poshpaws> PATH=/opt/dtbld/bin:/opt/SUNWspro/bin:/usr/ccs/bin:/usr/gnu/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/sfw/bin[07:45:32] <poshpaws> PWD=/export/home/cbe[07:45:34] <poshpaws> TZ=Europe/Zurich[07:45:36] <poshpaws> CXX=/opt/SUNWspro/bin/CC[07:45:38] <poshpaws> CONFIG_SHELL=/bin/bash[07:45:40] <poshpaws> SHLVL=1[07:45:42] <poshpaws> HOME=/export/home/cbe[07:45:43] <codestr0m> Tempt: please kick[07:45:45] <poshpaws> MAKE=/opt/dtbld/bin/make[07:45:46] <poshpaws> CXX64=/opt/SUNWspro/bin/CC[07:45:48] <poshpaws> LOGNAME=cbe[07:45:50] <poshpaws> MAKESHELL=/bin/bash[07:45:52] <poshpaws> CC32=/opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc[07:45:54] <poshpaws> CC=/opt/SUNWspro/bin/cc[07:45:56] <poshpaws> _=/usr/gnu/bin/env[07:45:58] <poshpaws> eh?[07:46:11] *** hotaru2k3 has quit IRC[07:46:12] <codestr0m> poshpaws: don't flood! anyway. no more help from you[07:46:18] <codestr0m> for*[07:46:40] *** Topdeck has joined #opensolaris[07:46:45] <poshpaws> why ?.. sorry i dont use irc very oft[07:48:36] <poshpaws> hmm seems like a culture clash here .. i do what you ask and you bitch at me ...nice[07:49:09] *** sophokles has joined #opensolaris[07:50:09] <codestr0m> poshpaws: pastie normally means use something what's in the topic Clipboard: http://www.pastealacon.com/[07:50:13] <Zikla> In the topic there's a link to http://www.pastealacon.com[07:50:33] <codestr0m> it's not called "pastie" in topic. maybe that's the confusion[07:51:09] *** ken has joined #opensolaris[07:51:26] *** hajma has left #opensolaris[07:52:10] *** jzu_ has quit IRC[07:54:27] <poshpaws> could be that ... and also not useing irc for a lonnng time too ;)[07:56:07] <krisis2> codestr0m: i was building SUNWgtk-doc and got an error saying /usr/bin/python2.6 is older than version 2.3? can i just create a link /usr/bin/python to versions > 2.3 i have installed in my machine?[07:56:53] *** Topdeck_ has quit IRC[07:57:20] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris[07:57:28] *** ken is now known as ken-w[07:57:50] <codestr0m> krisis2: ok. you don't listen so well either.. I need to know where you are getting the spec files.. maybe they are really old if wanting py2.3[07:58:34] <CIA-33> "Nagaraj Yedathore - Sun Microsystems - Bangalore India" <Nagaraj.Yedathore at Sun dot COM>: 6800312 df -o i adds extra entry if directory or file system name is an "i"[07:59:32] <krisis2> codestr0m: sorry, this is how i check out spec files "svn co svn+ssh://anon at svn dot opensolaris.org/svn/jds/spec-files/trunk spec-files"[07:59:55] <codestr0m> krisis2: what tool are you using? (what's the end goal?)[08:00:42] <krisis2> i am using pkgtool version 1.3.3 and the end goal is to build evolution on snv_108[08:01:30] <codestr0m> krisis2: ok. do you need an evolution package or merely building it will work?[08:01:57] <codestr0m> and you need to build it for fun, experience, to fix a bug or just need it installed?[08:02:02] <krisis2> My intention is to build evolution, I already have a running binary for evolution[08:02:22] <krisis2> i want to build to learn and go on to fixing bugs on it[08:03:09] *** fftb_ has joined #opensolaris[08:03:59] <codestr0m> krisis2: ok.. if it's evolution specifically.. I'd say grab the config.log ./configure line and manually check that it will configure/build outside of this spec file stuff.. 2) you could try to use pkgbuild instead of pkgtool[08:04:33] <codestr0m> krisis2: is the spec file for roughly the same version of evolution you have installed?[08:04:56] *** capaz1 has quit IRC[08:05:40] <codestr0m> krisis2: lastly.. if you are really confident that the spec file is wrong. change the required line, but I suspect something else possibly may be wrong here[08:06:38] *** phimic has joined #opensolaris[08:07:22] <poshpaws> codestr0m and all , pasted the info[08:08:09] <krisis2> codestr0m: the evolution i am running on my machine is 2.24 and the one i am trying to build is 2.25[08:09:25] <krisis2> codestr0m: i began with building evolution, found that my base-libs and dependant packages in general were older. Then created a zone and attempted uninstalling all gnome packages as per instructions on opensolaris.org[08:12:10] *** ken has joined #opensolaris[08:12:19] *** ken is now known as ken-w1[08:13:34] *** sophokles has left #opensolaris[08:17:49] *** jbeda has quit IRC[08:21:27] *** krisis2 is now known as krisis[08:21:37] *** ken-w has quit IRC[08:22:11] *** _setuid_H has joined #opensolaris[08:23:23] <_setuid_H> Morning everybody[08:23:33] *** darth4 has joined #opensolaris[08:25:07] <darth4> hello, i have a rpool setup that I want to mirror, it is on c2d0s0 right now. I have an identical internal hard drive to match it, it is as c3d0s0.. how can i mirror c2d0s0 to c3d0s0?[08:25:53] <_setuid_H> darth4: zpool attach rpool c2d0s0t0 c3d0s0t0[08:26:05] <_setuid_H> darth4: but I'm not sure of my syntax :-)[08:26:46] <_setuid_H> darth4: are you sure with naming?[08:27:04] <glance> set up identical slices, attatch the disk to the rpool, and install the bootloader (x86)[08:27:26] <darth4> yes, the format command says c2d0 <DEFAULT cyl 60791 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126, and c3d0 <DEFAULT cyl 60798 alt 2 hd 255 sec 126 respectivly[08:27:43] <_setuid_H> darth4: ok than zpool attach rpool c30d0s0 c3d0s0[08:27:53] <_setuid_H> s/c30d0s0/c2d0s0[08:27:54] <_setuid_H> sorry[08:27:55] <_setuid_H> :-)[08:27:58] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[08:28:01] <_setuid_H> it's morning :-)[08:28:05] <darth4> what's the stuff about identical slices and bootloaders[08:28:22] <darth4> or will zpool attach rpool c30d0s0 c3d0s0 do it?[08:28:33] <_setuid_H> darth4: this should handle it[08:28:51] <_setuid_H> darth4: if the size and speed matches you're ok[08:29:05] <_setuid_H> darth4: by spead i mean rpm[08:29:07] <darth4> they sure do, ok lemme try[08:30:38] <darth4> cannot open '/dev/dsk/c3d0s0': No such device or address[08:30:52] <darth4> hmm, but c3d0s0 is in /dev/dsk[08:31:29] <_setuid_H> darth4: run #format[08:31:43] <_setuid_H> it will show you names[08:32:04] <darth4> # zpool attach rpool c2d0 c3d0[08:32:11] <darth4> cannot attach c3d0 to c2d0: no such device in pool[08:32:13] <_setuid_H> if it's sata it should be like c2t0d0s0 c3t0d0s0[08:32:30] <_setuid_H> give me output of format command[08:32:48] <_setuid_H> darth4: use http://pastebin.com[08:33:01] <darth4> http://pastebin.com/d46de0f94[08:33:12] <darth4> 0 and 1 are external drives not being used for this[08:33:26] <darth4> c2d0 is my primary drive with the OS on it, I want to mirror it to c3d0[08:34:05] <_setuid_H> darth4: ok so zpool attach c2d0s0 c3d0s0[08:34:14] <_setuid_H> zpool attach rpool c2d0s0 c3d0s0[08:34:17] <_setuid_H> grrr[08:34:18] <_setuid_H> :-)[08:34:51] <darth4> nice :)[08:34:56] <darth4> okay.. so now it shows this[08:35:18] <darth4> http://pastebin.com/d4b5ff8ee[08:35:31] <darth4> so it should be mirroring it all at this point?[08:35:50] <_setuid_H> darth4: mirror is on 16%[08:36:01] <darth4> ahhh :)[08:36:04] <_setuid_H> darth4: give some time to the copy process[08:36:05] <darth4> so it's copying it all over now[08:36:11] <_setuid_H> darth4: exactly[08:36:12] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[08:36:20] <darth4> damn, this is slick[08:36:43] <darth4> how can i test if it's copied or view that disk[08:37:20] <_setuid_H> darth4: you can dettach/attach disks[08:38:51] <darth4> so if c2d0s0 went out today it would automagically rollover to c3d0s0 ?[08:39:25] <_setuid_H> darth4: well you can dettach c2* and c3* will be used[08:40:04] *** yarihm has joined #opensolaris[08:40:39] <_setuid_H> darth4: try it after mirror will be done[08:40:50] <_setuid_H> or you can try to corrupt some data[08:40:52] <_setuid_H> :-)[08:41:03] <darth4> hehe don't think i'll be trying that last one lol[08:41:22] <_setuid_H> by runnning dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/dsk/c2d0s0 count=400000 bs=512 :-)[08:41:44] <_setuid_H> darth4: you should see a message in zpool status after taht[08:41:45] <_setuid_H> that[08:42:05] *** free has quit IRC[08:42:16] *** free has joined #opensolaris[08:43:20] <darth4> here's a question, whats the difference between "zpool attach rpool c2d0s0 c3d0s0" and "zpool add rpool mirror c2d0s0 c3d0s0"[08:45:20] <_setuid_H> darth4: not sure, but add mirror should be used to add disk to an existing mirror[08:45:34] <_setuid_H> darth4: I'm not an zfs expert[08:45:44] <_setuid_H> darth4: and I have only two disk machine :-)[08:46:26] <darth4> hehe alright, thanks for the help[08:46:37] <_setuid_H> darth4: what machine do you have?[08:46:45] <darth4> sunfire x2250[08:46:56] <_setuid_H> darth4: sunfire x2100 :-)[08:47:04] <darth4> nice[08:47:05] *** Wil has quit IRC[08:47:17] *** monu_ has joined #opensolaris[08:47:59] <monu_> hi[08:48:19] *** carl- has joined #opensolaris[08:48:52] <monu_> i wanted to know how solaris is different than other os,[08:49:01] <monu_> and how does using soalris make a difference[08:49:13] <darth4> zfs filesystem, made my life easier[08:49:54] <Stric> it's stable (non-crashing and not changing everything every now and then)[08:50:15] *** LouisJB_ has quit IRC[08:50:21] <monu_> hmm what about linux[08:50:38] <darth4> what about it, what are your needs[08:50:48] *** niq has quit IRC[08:50:56] <monu_> i dont need anything[08:51:00] <monu_> i just want to know[08:51:21] <Stric> different people have different needs, no OS is best on everything[08:51:33] <monu_> i mean wat kind of people would use solaris,i mean what needs does it satisfy[08:51:55] <Stric> more server oriented than flashy desktop OS oriented[08:52:02] <asyd> \_o<[08:52:45] <darth4> solaris is tailored to the high end server market mostly[08:52:52] <monu_> ohh[08:53:10] <monu_> i raed somewhere that IBM is trying to buyout sun[08:53:35] <darth4> not saying linux isin't, it just plays a different role such as more desktop orientated[08:54:03] <Stric> monu_: there has been speculations about that yes.. and no, we can't tell the future[08:54:14] <darth4> yeah we can[08:54:16] <darth4> we can call Cleo![08:54:22] <darth4> she can look into her crystal ball[08:55:01] * Stric whacks darth4 with a crystal ball[08:55:10] <darth4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3ABE3wvxzA[08:55:10] <asyd> cleo?[08:55:27] <asyd> lol[08:55:28] <darth4> peep link, she will provide the answers to the IBM/Sun deal[08:56:57] <darth4> im off to bed folks[08:57:00] *** darth4 has quit IRC[08:58:05] *** JWheeler has quit IRC[08:59:01] *** JWheeler has joined #opensolaris[09:04:52] *** Erwann has joined #opensolaris[09:04:53] *** Erwannc has joined #opensolaris[09:05:06] *** Erwann has quit IRC[09:06:06] *** ricardo-vlh has joined 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However, what about the SPOF on your iSCSI server?[09:31:18] *** dunc has quit IRC[09:31:33] <asyd> or you want server1 acts as iscsi server for server2?[09:31:47] <fraggeln> no, I have a standalone iscsi-target.[09:32:27] <asyd> ok, well should be easily done with sun cluster I think[09:32:28] <fraggeln> or rather, i have 2 promise-boxes that acts as iscsi-targets.[09:33:14] <fraggeln> what filesystem to use then? since zfs isnt cluster-aware?[09:36:30] *** poshpaws was kicked by Tempt (no more flooding, monkey-face.)[09:37:42] <fraggeln> what is HASP for zfs? :)[09:40:02] *** arcane has joined #opensolaris[09:40:29] <asyd> well, it's not sure to understand good what you want to achieve, i.e. master/master vs master/slave[09:40:33] <asyd> I thought master/slave[09:40:49] <asyd> HASP is the type of sun cluster resources[09:40:54] <asyd> ha storage plus[09:41:21] *** mikefut has quit IRC[09:41:35] <arcane> is it normal for a solaris install to be very slow? in comparison to linux[09:41:55] <arcane> working on a raid/sata issue (it wotn detect the drives), and it's killing me how slow its loading![09:42:59] <Stric> "very slow" is not too well defined and "in comparison to linux" isn't too well defined either, there are quite a few different installers out there[09:43:23] <Stric> and your raid/sata issues might be the actual culprit as well[09:43:56] <arcane> Yeah, that's my suspicion... it seems to slow to be normal (never used it before)[09:44:00] <seanmcg> and 'how slow its loading' - booting dvd/cd or disk or san or iscsi or usb ? The question isn't too well defined.[09:44:05] <arcane> once its booted it's ok[09:44:44] <seanmcg> sounds like its stuck a while querying hardware during boot.[09:45:14] <Stric> anyway, speedy boots hasn't been the prime target for solaris.. because it's mostly used on servers which you don't reboot that often[09:45:31] <Stric> but "very slow compared to an unknown figure" .. no idea ;)[09:45:39] <arcane> Mmm nah, it's a little past that... everything takes ages, and once it gets to the "Loading Java" part it goes for a while... i left it 30mins then came back and did it again in console mode... which got into the console in around 10 minutes[09:45:54] <Stric> ok, that's too slow.[09:45:57] <arcane> An unknown figure? the relative comparison was a typical linux installer[09:45:58] <arcane> Yes ;)[09:46:06] <seanmcg> 'Loading Java' ? Are you booting off a dvd ?[09:46:11] <Stric> Loading java usually takes a few seconds[09:46:20] <arcane> Stric, that's all i need to know thanks :)[09:46:38] <arcane> seanmcg, yeah, for the installer[09:46:46] <arcane> i have no idea what that loads tho, i never let it finish hehe[09:47:06] <seanmcg> ah ok. This is SXCE ? Not opensolaris ?[09:47:18] <Stric> 40 minutes is much slower than it should be.. unless you're reeeally tight on ram and it's swapping to death or something[09:47:28] <arcane> I beleive it's opensolaris, ill check -- i didn't burn the media personally[09:47:43] <arcane> Stric, 2gb of memory[09:47:51] <seanmcg> on SXCE the installer is java based, has to read quite a lot from dvd - could be a slow media drive[09:47:51] <Stric> not that, then..[09:48:07] <arcane> it is only a p4 system, but that should be enough grunt i'd hope[09:48:18] <seanmcg> what speed ?[09:48:21] <arcane> seanmcg, interesting -- ill be sure to check thanks[09:48:41] <arcane> 2.something ghz[09:49:21] <arcane> only using the little bugger as a test environment, it's not a very good test env imoh heh[09:50:11] <arcane> it's got 4 sata2 drives hanging off an adaptec raid controller, was hoping it would merely detect them as std sata drives (because it doesnt have the raid driver)[09:50:29] <arcane> i booted up a centos linux intaller within minutes and it picked up the drives ok :/[09:50:42] <arcane> anyway thats my whinge, thanks -- ill ask more specific questions when i can[09:50:55] <_setuid_H> does anybody have a problem to boot the last two builds of sxce (boot the installation media)?[09:53:46] <seanmcg> problem how ?[09:55:05] <_setuid_H> seanmcg: this was for me?[09:55:50] <seanmcg> _setuid_H, aye[09:56:22] <_setuid_H> seanmcg: there is a kernel dump and exit[09:56:37] <_setuid_H> seanmcg: I don't have my machine here, so I can't provide a boot info[09:56:41] <seanmcg> oh, nasty.[09:58:41] <fraggeln> asyd: I realy want master/master, but for 2 diffrent shares. so node1 is master for share1, and node2 is master for share2, and they are failover for eachother.[09:59:01] <asyd> well, it's something I call master/slave :)[09:59:16] <asyd> and you can manage that with sun cluster[10:01:03] <seanmcg> _setuid_H, theres some panics known when booting off media, eg; http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6816786 , though for yours we'd need more info :}[10:01:52] <_setuid_H> seanmcg: thanks[10:02:45] *** Vonoff has joined #opensolaris[10:02:47] <_setuid_H> seanmcg: it should be the same problem, configuration of the system seeems like very similar to mine[10:02:49] <Vonoff> hi[10:02:49] *** cypromis_ has joined #opensolaris[10:03:04] <Vonoff> whats the default local mta on an opensolaris box?[10:03:17] <_setuid_H> sendmail :-)[10:04:15] <_setuid_H> Vonoff: wanna postfix?[10:04:18] *** cypromis has quit IRC[10:04:24] *** cypromis_ is now known as cypromis[10:04:35] *** tsoome has quit IRC[10:04:56] <Vonoff> _setuid_H, i don't really care which it is, as i only need to add my real smtp as relay for it :)[10:05:31] <_setuid_H> Vonoff: ok than the answer is sendmail[10:05:32] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris[10:05:59] *** LouisJB_ has joined #opensolaris[10:06:49] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[10:07:05] *** luc^ has joined #opensolaris[10:07:26] *** sartek has joined #opensolaris[10:09:46] <palowoda> There you go, sendmail will grow hair on your chest.[10:10:21] *** Gekz has joined #OpenSolaris[10:13:05] <_setuid_H> palowoda: right now I'm thinking about what mta to use on my server, sendmail seems like real pain in ass, but should be more interesting :-)[10:13:18] *** mshadle has left #opensolaris[10:13:32] <_setuid_H> palowoda: it should be only for my purposes[10:13:45] *** lblume has joined #opensolaris[10:13:46] *** perlmongo has joined #opensolaris[10:14:43] <palowoda> I don't know. I use postfix and a modified 64bit UofW for the imap.[10:15:24] <Vonoff> _setuid_H, how do i restart sendmail on opensol?[10:15:52] *** jiiho has quit IRC[10:16:01] <palowoda> svcadm restart sendmail[10:16:34] *** cypromis has quit IRC[10:17:44] *** arcane has quit IRC[10:20:08] <_setuid_H> Vonoff: sorry I was on the reception :-)[10:20:46] <lblume> Hi all![10:21:15] <palowoda> Greetings[10:21:16] <lblume> palowoda: Just being curious, why UWIMAP in 64? Only to link against it, or some other reason?[10:21:19] <_setuid_H> Vonoff: make yourself familiar with svcadm svccfg, it's really useful :-)[10:21:43] <palowoda> lblume: I needed 64bit imap shared libs for php in the webserver.[10:22:13] <palowoda> I was using squirrelmail.[10:22:27] <lblume> Ok, thought so. You can get shared libs with UW by default? Or you cook them yourself? I've always used the static one.[10:23:20] *** Randello has joined #opensolaris[10:23:50] <palowoda> I had to follow some stupid hack to get shared libs with UofW imap for solaris. Though I must admit I haven't read the recent readme on UofW, does it have the option for shared libs now?[10:24:07] *** turtle_ has joined #OpenSolaris[10:24:33] <palowoda> Shesh when is solaris going to get a standard imap server.[10:24:54] *** turtle has quit IRC[10:25:13] *** LouisJB_ has quit IRC[10:26:01] *** KermitTheFragger has joined #opensolaris[10:27:05] <palowoda> Umm, wait to answer my own question dovcot goes into build 115.[10:27:47] <palowoda> That means at least five fishing trips before than.[10:28:49] <lblume> Yep, I used the hack in the past, now I don't bother, use the static (client only, so as long as it works....). I didn't notice a change in that lately, but didn't look closely. The UW guy has always seemed very convinced that shared libs and Solaris are the roots of all evil anyway.[10:29:02] <_setuid_H> palowoda: :-)[10:32:02] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[10:32:21] <sartek> palowoda: url?[10:32:40] *** krisis is now known as krisis|mtg[10:33:15] <palowoda> Well I was using Tripletts notes: http://rafb.net/p/Pl7CJj55.html which I added some comments about 64bits.[10:33:48] <palowoda> Note I was using gcc 4.3 to do that.[10:37:17] *** pgr has joined #opensolaris[10:37:43] *** communicator has quit IRC[10:38:21] <lblume> Gee, the Great Firewall does't like me tonight, my connections keep being dropped.... I'll go cook lasagnas instead, bye...[10:40:44] <Vonoff> erm, how would i go about installing ssmtp or postfix or whatever if it isn't in the repo?[10:41:15] <palowoda> Use the blastwave.org postfix repo.[10:41:29] <samc> Vonoff: if you're running opensolaris, you can add the blastwave ipkg authority[10:41:33] <samc> yeah, what palowoda said[10:41:49] <samc> pkg set-authority -O http://blastwave.network.com:10000/ blastwave[10:41:55] <samc> then pkg install IPSpostfix[10:42:13] <samc> although that'll most likely bring along a whole bunch of blastwave dependancies[10:42:43] <palowoda> But it works, at least I haven't seen any issues with it.[10:43:00] *** Dar has joined #opensolaris[10:43:07] <samc> yeah, I've not tried postfix but I'm running spamassassin and clamav from blastwave and they're solid[10:43:24] *** lblume has quit IRC[10:43:40] <palowoda> But spama and clamav compliment postfix.[10:44:42] <palowoda> Actually you can get SP to run automagically with postfix.[10:46:38] <samc> personally I prefer exim, but unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a package around for it[10:47:14] <samc> I tried setting up my own depot so I could easily push it out to all the zones, but I'm running exim under a nis user and ipkg doesn't seem to be happy about chowning files to users that only appear in yp[10:48:03] *** MattMan has joined #opensolaris[10:50:44] <palowoda> Isn't yp dieing a horrible death these days?[10:52:04] <trochej> Coffee[10:52:38] <palowoda> Than again sun ldap and openldap have issues. So go figure.[10:56:19] <trochej> Yup[10:56:22] <trochej> Give 'em coffee[10:56:26] <trochej> Might help[10:56:36] <Psuedo> I am looking for an Internet Printing solution for my Intranet (need a 'website'). I need one that will be able to distribute drivers to Windows XP, and List documents and printers. What is the best Internet printing solution, other than CUPS & IIS?[10:59:08] <palowoda> If you need to distribute drivers for Windows there is only one company to ask permission from. The legal monopoly company. Any other questions?[10:59:24] <Psuedo> yes[10:59:29] *** gottadoit1 has quit IRC[10:59:37] *** jteo has joined #opensolaris[10:59:40] <Psuedo> How do I convert ASP to PHP? Do you know of anyone willing to help me do so, for free?[10:59:55] <palowoda> With luck.[11:00:05] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[11:01:00] <Psuedo> Do you know of anyone willing to help me do so, for free?[11:01:36] <palowoda> Why free? Are you special?[11:02:40] <Psuedo> yes[11:02:42] <Psuedo> :P[11:02:44] <Psuedo> lol[11:02:53] <CosmicDJ> get some books about php and DIY[11:03:02] <Psuedo> I can offer 60-days usage with a Blade Server :D[11:03:31] *** hr has left #opensolaris[11:03:38] <palowoda> Your better off trying to pay somebodies morgage for 6 months.[11:03:54] *** callyma has joined #opensolaris[11:04:24] *** capaz has quit IRC[11:05:36] <Psuedo> lol[11:08:13] <codestr0m> Psuedo: try asking in #php..[11:08:24] * codestr0m tries very hard to refrain from saying more[11:10:04] <Psuedo> okay, did[11:11:24] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris[11:12:07] <codestr0m> Psuedo: normally, we try to keep the tone here somewhat professional and asking for vague completely non-related things is discouraged[11:12:39] <CosmicDJ> lol, sry[11:12:43] <Psuedo> !topic[11:12:46] <CosmicDJ> "coofffeee"[11:12:57] <CosmicDJ> "I like them roasted"[11:14:25] *** Yamazaki-kun has quit IRC[11:14:39] *** d3xter has joined #opensolaris[11:16:01] *** estibi_ is now known as estibi[11:16:08] <palowoda> coffee is an exception. We are trying to figure out how much caffine trochej can really take before a legal overdose. But I think that is imposible to determine.[11:16:49] <CosmicDJ> trochej is Mr. Kirks nightmare...[11:16:52] *** gehmehgeh has joined #opensolaris[11:18:56] *** kate21de has quit IRC[11:21:34] *** Psuedo has left #OpenSolaris[11:21:42] <trochej> Mhhhhhheeeeeeewwwwrrrr![11:25:12] <d3xter> hey guys[11:25:19] <trochej> Yup?[11:25:20] <trochej> Coffee?[11:25:33] <edvil> yes please ![11:25:53] <d3xter> when i try to install a new test zone it always says "pkg:/entire at 0 dot 5.11,5.11-0.109:20090305T202735Z[11:25:55] <d3xter> failed to install package[11:26:25] <d3xter> and it seems like i cant find it in release or dev repository[11:26:51] <trochej> palowoda: However might I try I'm not able to reach that level/.[11:26:55] *** wewek has joined #opensolaris[11:28:47] *** Chipdancer has quit IRC[11:28:53] <palowoda> d3xter: What kind of zone? A full zone or sparse?[11:29:34] <seanmcg> d3xter, whats your pkg config pointing to ? i.e. the output from 'pkg authority'[11:32:04] <palowoda> seanmcg: Can you have an authority newer than the release for zone support on indiana?[11:32:54] <palowoda> Just curious.[11:33:01] <seanmcg> palowoda, not sure.[11:33:31] *** Chipdancer has joined #opensolaris[11:33:43] <d3xter> authority points to pkg.opensolaris.org/dev and release, i think it is a full zone[11:34:12] <palowoda> Seems confusing if you could have a full non-global zone newer than the global zone.[11:34:14] <seanmcg> dev and release ?[11:37:48] <d3xter> seanmcg: yes[11:38:14] <d3xter> palowoda: my global zone is the newest dev release from 12.3.09[11:39:13] <seanmcg> d3xter, so whats authority does the 'opensolaris.org' one point to ?[11:39:42] *** cypromis has quit IRC[11:40:14] <d3xter> opensolaris (preferred) points to pkg.opensolaris.org/release/[11:40:22] *** fftb_ has quit IRC[11:42:48] *** qiyong has quit IRC[11:43:51] *** homeboy has quit IRC[11:44:12] <palowoda> d3xter: I was under the impression your athority was pointing to to the "dev" release not the release from december of 08.[11:45:13] <d3xter> ah ok[11:45:23] *** koan has quit IRC[11:45:23] *** chowmeined has joined #opensolaris[11:45:29] *** koan has joined #opensolaris[11:45:38] <chowmeined> i get an error when trying to use ssh-agent: mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied[11:45:54] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[11:46:47] *** homeboy has joined #opensolaris[11:47:41] <d3xter> so what can i do, to get it running?[11:50:22] *** koan has quit IRC[11:50:29] *** koan has joined #opensolaris[11:50:40] <palowoda> d3xter: Interesting, SXCE doesn't seem to have a problems with zones. There must be some documentation on Indiana with zones revisions.[11:52:19] <palowoda> chowmeined: What version of SXCE or Indiana are you using?[11:52:31] <chowmeined> palowoda, 2008.11[11:53:49] <seanmcg> solaris zones on opensolaris install the zone with the IPS brand, meaning it pulls the packages down from the repo server - not populating it from the current install.[11:54:35] <seanmcg> d3xter, your propblem is that when installing the zone, it wants the b109 bits, which aren't on the /release repo. you need to change what opensolaris.org points to.[11:54:39] <palowoda> Hmm haven't seen to may errors related to mkdtemp and ssh. 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/var/tmp?[12:07:20] <chowmeined> and ssh-add works if its in /tmp[12:07:26] <d3xter> seanmcg: so how can i delete a repository?[12:07:36] <chowmeined> what if i want to make the agent socket in the home dir? maybe a login script so i can automatically have the agent going[12:07:41] <chowmeined> or maybe integrate it with PAM or something[12:08:03] <chowmeined> palowoda, if i have the agent make its socket in ~/ somewhere, it works, but ssh-add fails with: Could not open a connection to your authentication agent.[12:08:21] <chowmeined> palowoda, even though SSH_AUTH_SOCK is set correctly and i can kill the agent with ssh-agent -k[12:09:57] *** legolasw has quit IRC[12:10:42] <palowoda> chowmeined: You did say "ssh-agent" failed right?[12:10:42] *** calumb has joined #opensolaris[12:11:05] <palowoda> Or ssh-agent -k?[12:11:18] <seanmcg> d3xter, man pkg :)[12:11:28] <chowmeined> palowoda, no those both work now, if i make the agent.pid in my home dir[12:11:42] <chowmeined> palowoda, but 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for gsoc?[12:42:07] <codestr0m> apps start today[12:42:32] <xRaich[o]2x> nope i'm pretty busy atm.[12:42:55] <xRaich[o]2x> trying to get a life outside from coding :P[12:43:14] *** bahumbug has joined #opensolaris[12:43:35] *** niq has quit IRC[12:43:42] *** bahumbug is now known as niq[12:43:49] *** yarihm_ has joined #opensolaris[12:45:21] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[12:47:23] *** pt- has joined #opensolaris[12:51:13] *** yarihm has quit IRC[12:52:39] *** pt has quit IRC[12:53:16] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU[12:55:15] *** e-jat has quit IRC[12:55:59] *** Odin- has quit IRC[12:58:08] *** ottom has quit IRC[13:02:38] *** finger has joined #opensolaris[13:08:13] *** niq has quit IRC[13:08:35] *** F|nger has quit IRC[13:10:04] <asyd> frak earth![13:12:09] *** dunc has quit IRC[13:12:13] <FastJack> asyd: hey, the new earth is nice[13:12:14] *** tosh has joined #opensolaris[13:12:18] <asyd> :)[13:12:35] *** capaz1 has joined #opensolaris[13:18:01] <PinkFreud> FastJack: 150,000 years ago, perhaps.[13:18:42] *** calumb has quit IRC[13:18:56] <homeboy> mmmm... bsg[13:19:30] <FastJack> lets go digin in africa. there must still be some raptors or vipers buried somewhere ;)[13:20:05] <homeboy> you've got a good plan there[13:20:13] *** capaz has quit IRC[13:21:34] <asyd> FastJack: ahah[13:21:58] *** mroconnor_ has quit IRC[13:25:00] *** pandarilho has joined #opensolaris[13:27:02] <FastJack> now I wonder what I'm going to watch until the new show starts[13:27:48] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris[13:30:11] <asyd> the new show?[13:30:14] <PinkFreud> I liked Ron Moore's cameo, though[13:30:33] <FastJack> yeah, that was fun :)[13:32:21] <FastJack> asyd: caprica. the story, how the (humanoid?) cylons were created[13:32:28] *** axisys has quit IRC[13:33:27] <asyd> ah[13:33:31] <asyd> I thought it was just a movie[13:34:07] <FastJack> no, there also a movie coming up. "the plan". it's the cylon side of the whole story[13:39:29] <asyd> oh ok, sounds nice[13:39:45] *** hsp is now known as hsp_away[13:54:29] *** calumb has joined #opensolaris[13:57:35] *** JWheeler has quit IRC[13:57:35] <jteo> starbuck can be my angel anytime[13:57:45] <asyd> hehe[13:58:01] <FastJack> I'd take a number six ;)[13:58:03] * asyd wants boomer/whatever[13:58:04] <asyd> :)[13:58:08] *** aaasdd has joined #opensolaris[13:59:05] <aaasdd> i installed sxce and when i did reboot, it doesnt work, i typo boot into grub console but it said i have to load the kernel but i dont know how ...[14:00:41] <aaasdd> so how to boot ...??[14:00:48] <aaasdd> how to load the kernel omfgf after installing sxce[14:00:49] <fraggeln> reinstall :)[14:00:53] <aaasdd> wow[14:00:55] <fraggeln> I bet its fucked up.[14:01:01] <aaasdd> but how ? :D[14:01:02] <aaasdd> omg![14:01:16] <aaasdd> i tried to install it with UFS and ZFS too[14:01:19] <asyd> hmm tried to boot from the cd?[14:01:28] <asyd> sounds like your grub doesn't your harddrive, sounds strange[14:01:55] <aaasdd> idk i have to load the kernel somehow and boot it :S oh and[14:02:14] <aaasdd> when i installed it yesterday with UFS it said couldnt get ramdisk from boot :D[14:02:24] <aaasdd> with ZFS it works but i just have to load the kernel somehow and then boot[14:02:26] <aaasdd> lmfao[14:02:43] <aaasdd> ok ill reinstall it with UFS again.. last try[14:03:56] <aaasdd> :S[14:03:57] <aaasdd> brb[14:04:01] *** aaasdd has quit IRC[14:05:16] <Keso> ALL: how to boot into single ? it's -s switch in grub ?[14:05:32] *** Dorfo1 has joined #opensolaris[14:05:51] <Dorfo1> hi there[14:06:27] *** B|nTaRa has quit IRC[14:06:35] <Dorfo1> anyone here knows where can i get an opensolaris .11 image to boot from usb?[14:10:19] *** lewellyn has quit IRC[14:10:51] *** taltamir has quit IRC[14:10:52] *** B|nTaRa has joined #opensolaris[14:11:40] *** JWheeler has joined #opensolaris[14:12:06] <CosmicDJ> Dorfo1: genunix.org[14:13:38] <Dorfo1> great[14:13:40] <Dorfo1> :][14:13:41] <Dorfo1> thx[14:13:44] <Dorfo1> i will check it[14:14:16] *** fr4g-home has joined #opensolaris[14:14:57] <Dorfo1> this 0906-109 is the current one?[14:15:14] <Dorfo1> should i try the 0811 or this one?[14:16:18] *** e1kg has joined #OpenSolaris[14:16:19] <xRaich[o]2x> 0811 is considered as the "stable" release while 0906 isn't even out yet[14:16:47] *** m3lling has joined #opensolaris[14:17:51] *** javatexan has joined #opensolaris[14:19:23] <Dorfo1> hmm cuz i will install it over a 2133[14:19:25] <Dorfo1> mininote[14:20:59] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris[14:27:54] *** chomchom has quit IRC[14:28:04] *** chomchom has joined #opensolaris[14:37:41] *** krisis has left #opensolaris[14:44:26] *** hsp_away is now known as hsp[14:45:54] *** chomchom has quit IRC[14:46:01] *** wewek has quit IRC[14:46:04] *** chomchom has joined #opensolaris[14:46:43] <mib_0smse47d> Hi[14:46:54] <mib_0smse47d> i am getting the below error if i use samba share[14:47:03] <mib_0smse47d> does anyone has idea on thi[14:47:04] <mib_0smse47d> s[14:47:05] <mib_0smse47d> session setup failed: ERRDOS - 2215[14:48:29] <cidco> question: im setting up trunking on my system per this guide http://breden.org.uk/2008/04/05/home-fileserver-trunking/ there is a part of the guide that says i should have a file called "hostname.rge0" in /etc, I dont have that file. Should I be looking somewhere else?[14:50:35] <CosmicDJ> cidco: ls /etc/hostname.*[14:51:24] *** libkeise1 has quit IRC[14:51:44] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[14:52:26] <cidco> CosmicDJ it shows the new one i created but not the old. im wondering if it was because my nic was dhcp before.[14:53:05] *** perlmongo has quit IRC[14:54:45] <CosmicDJ> could be[14:55:52] <mib_0smse47d> Hi[14:56:01] <mib_0smse47d> any idea on samba error[14:57:04] *** libkeiser has joined #opensolaris[14:57:42] *** e-jat has joined #opensolaris[14:58:34] *** cwebber has quit IRC[14:58:48] <CIA-33> Joep Vesseur <Joep.Vesseur at Sun dot COM>: 6565926 profiles(1) command does not display privs granted to the profile[14:58:49] <CIA-33> Joep Vesseur <Joep.Vesseur at Sun dot COM>: 4530779 rmdir should not mess with its credentials[14:58:51] <CIA-33> Joep Vesseur <Joep.Vesseur at Sun dot COM>: 6699885 misconfiguring the passwd auth stack leads to unexpected results[14:58:52] <CIA-33> Joep Vesseur <Joep.Vesseur at Sun dot COM>: 6615002 possible file descriptor leak in unix_acct[14:58:53] <CIA-33> Joep Vesseur <Joep.Vesseur at Sun dot COM>: 6588644 When audit is enabled and the tty or host fails to build the terminalid, the syslog could be better[14:59:30] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[15:02:33] <mib_0smse47d> Hi[15:02:40] <mib_0smse47d> does any one idea about samba[15:03:42] <CosmicDJ> mib_0smse47d: google maybe?![15:04:06] <mib_0smse47d> i am getting ERRDOS -2215[15:04:12] <mib_0smse47d> i searched in google[15:04:21] <mib_0smse47d> no reply to this issue[15:05:12] <CosmicDJ> mib_0smse47d: more info needed, what are you trying to do? show us the command that caused this error[15:06:27] <mib_0smse47d> ./smbclient //localhost/sharename -U username[15:07:06] <mib_0smse47d> after issuing the password it threw error like errdos-2215[15:07:06] *** yarihm_ has quit IRC[15:09:16] <CosmicDJ> mib_0smse47d: smbclient -L localhost shows?[15:10:30] <mib_0smse47d> it shows the share[15:10:38] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[15:10:51] <mib_0smse47d> share is able to view[15:11:11] *** wewek has joined #opensolaris[15:11:54] <mib_0smse47d> smblinet -L localhost is working fine[15:12:01] <CosmicDJ> mib_0smse47d: pdbedit -L shows your username?[15:12:38] <Dorfo1> CosmicDJ: after download usb image the enxt step is to use dd or just mounting with loop and copy files to the usb dev?[15:12:46] <Dorfo1> s/enxt/next[15:13:18] *** capaz1 has left #opensolaris[15:13:26] <mib_0smse47d> nothing it shows[15:13:37] <mib_0smse47d> if i use pdbedit -L[15:13:42] <CosmicDJ> Dorfo1: no idea, IIRC there's smth called usbcopy you should use[15:13:58] <CosmicDJ> mib_0smse47d: but you created a samba-user?![15:14:09] <Dorfo1> hmmm i will earch for that[15:14:20] *** digifor has joined #opensolaris[15:15:24] <mib_0smse47d> i think samba-user is there already[15:15:34] *** aquanaut has joined #opensolaris[15:16:56] <CosmicDJ> mib_0smse47d: well pdbedit -L prints username here and you can smblcient //localhost/username -U username w/o any errors[15:17:47] <mib_0smse47d> if pdbedit -L is not showing anything, what i have to do ..[15:17:58] <mib_0smse47d> i ran already pdbedit -L[15:18:28] <Randello> what's the right way to launch at boot rsyncd ?[15:23:17] <flyingparchment> Randello: google://rsyncd smf/[15:31:06] *** pjharper_ has joined #opensolaris[15:32:09] <kjetilho> anyone here familiar with the PCIe card, external 8 port SAS?[15:32:23] <Randello> flyingparchment, thanks[15:32:51] <kjetilho> I'm wondering if it is safe/beneficial to enable write caching on the harddrives in addition to write caching in the card itself[15:33:50] <kjetilho> the default seems to be that the drives have write cache disabled. but I don't know if that's just to handle less advanced filesystems than ZFS[15:35:11] *** ericjray has joined #opensolaris[15:40:34] <tsoome> if you have write cache in card, it means the card will drive HDD, not the fs.[15:41:12] <_Steve_> "CHAP Secret: Must be between 12 and 16 characters in length" -- is that normal for iscsi?[15:41:16] *** luc^ has quit IRC[15:41:34] *** spiff_ has joined #opensolaris[15:41:46] <kjetilho> right. but I configure the HDD caching via the controller card, so it -- at least -- potentially know about it and can emit its own flush commands as needed[15:41:55] <_Steve_> i'm new to iscsi and trying to setup some iscsi stuff in the 7xxx storage demo vm[15:42:02] *** chomchom has left #opensolaris[15:42:41] <spiff_> Hi. I have an old "rpool" zpool thats causing me problems. It lists in zpool import as a mirrored zpool, but I'd like to delete that record, so that grub might boot. Any ideas?[15:43:01] <_Steve_> so far everything works ok, except that it keeps turning on the chap secret (but not chap name), so things don't work on reboot and i have to redefined my initiator aliases and permissions. so i thought i'd just go ahead and use CHAP, but[15:43:06] <_Steve_> bleh[15:43:22] <_Steve_> but i keep getting the 'must be between 12 and 16 chars' message[15:45:57] *** het has quit IRC[15:48:05] *** FastJack has quit IRC[15:48:37] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju[15:50:40] *** sactodave1 has joined #opensolaris[15:51:47] *** het has joined #opensolaris[15:51:54] *** FastJack has joined #opensolaris[15:59:05] <CIA-33> Jan Pechanec <Jan.Pechanec at Sun dot COM>: PSARC/2009/155 ChrootDirectory option for SunSSH server, 5043377 provide chroot capability in SunSSH, 6809398 default PATH in SunSSH should contain "/bin", 6810759 remove md5crypt.c from SunSSH since it's not used, 6813038 Subsystem keyword in sshd_config doesn't accept subsystem's options, 6772676 ssh default XAuthLocation should be /usr/X11/bin/xauth[15:59:43] <flyingparchment> why would the default path contain /bin when it's a symlink?[16:00:02] <tsoome> to save memory:P[16:07:06] *** d6g is now known as d6g|away[16:07:16] *** SQlvpapir has joined #opensolaris[16:08:02] <mib_0smse47d> Hi[16:08:07] *** digifor has quit IRC[16:08:17] <mib_0smse47d> how to come to know container has been configured[16:09:20] *** houst0n has joined #opensolaris[16:09:23] *** Fullmoon has joined #opensolaris[16:09:38] *** chrisr has joined #opensolaris[16:10:39] *** PaulR_ has quit IRC[16:12:25] *** bowdengl has left #opensolaris[16:12:58] *** ikarius has quit IRC[16:13:03] *** cidco has quit IRC[16:13:11] *** cidco has joined #opensolaris[16:15:51] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris[16:17:04] *** turtle_ is now known as turtle[16:17:30] *** niq has quit IRC[16:23:21] *** xente has joined #opensolaris[16:24:37] *** hein__ has joined #opensolaris[16:24:51] *** NoFX_SBC has joined #opensolaris[16:27:46] *** _setuid_H has quit IRC[16:30:00] *** edgeoc has quit IRC[16:30:17] *** edgeoc has joined #opensolaris[16:31:43] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[16:31:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[16:32:35] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[16:32:56] *** chrisr has quit IRC[16:33:15] *** bubbva has joined #opensolaris[16:33:17] *** chrisr has joined #opensolaris[16:37:54] *** xente has left #opensolaris[16:40:01] *** tsoome has quit IRC[16:43:33] *** sartek has quit IRC[16:56:38] *** javatexan has quit IRC[16:57:57] *** tsoome has joined #opensolaris[16:58:58] *** bengtf has quit IRC[16:59:47] *** ikarius has joined #opensolaris[17:02:14] *** wewek has quit IRC[17:02:22] *** wewek has joined #opensolaris[17:03:00] *** sndcrb has joined #opensolaris[17:04:33] *** cwebber has joined #opensolaris[17:05:44] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris[17:10:17] *** stux|RC has quit IRC[17:10:35] *** jiraia has joined #opensolaris[17:13:42] <d3xter> so i've removed the 2008.11 authority, but zones install still fails[17:15:34] *** alphabet- has joined #opensolaris[17:17:55] *** rno has joined #opensolaris[17:18:35] <seanmcg> d3xter, you not have 'opensolaris.org' pointing to pkg.opensolaris.org/dev ?[17:19:45] <rno> Hi[17:20:04] <rno> got an issue with prstat -Z[17:20:20] <rno> what would be the way to monitor zones usages?[17:20:41] *** drondia has joined #opensolaris[17:20:47] *** hein__ has left #opensolaris[17:23:25] *** Vanuatoo has quit IRC[17:23:45] <d3xter> seanmcg: yes it does and the FMRi with 'pkg info' is the same url[17:23:53] <brett_> rno: fairly vague question ;)[17:23:59] <CosmicDJ> rno: zvmstat from the dtrace toolkot ;)[17:24:26] *** carl- has quit IRC[17:24:29] <rno> True, waiting someone to answer first[17:24:41] <rno> I've been running prstat -Z[17:24:51] <rno> to """ monitor """ zones[17:25:20] <rno> load went from 2 to 20[17:25:34] <rno> and cpu is fine... according to prstat[17:25:51] *** pgr has quit IRC[17:25:55] <rno> it's not an I/O issue and not a memory issue a[17:25:57] *** pgr has joined #opensolaris[17:26:02] <rno> nd also not network related[17:26:18] <CosmicDJ> how many zones do you have?[17:26:21] <rno> and there is about 20 zone[17:26:24] <rno> for a T2[17:26:25] <brett_> load as reported by?[17:26:31] <rno> prstat -Z[17:26:57] <Randello> what's happen if I use -r in zfs snapshot ?[17:27:01] <rno> that would be the load of the server[17:27:35] *** e1kg has quit IRC[17:28:03] *** het_ has joined #opensolaris[17:28:16] *** abcdefgggggg has joined #opensolaris[17:28:33] <brett_> where does prstat -mZL show the LAT?[17:28:36] <abcdefgggggg> hi ok im installing opensolaris (2008.1) now... um how to turn on the net? !!![17:28:45] *** jteo has quit IRC[17:28:56] *** het has quit IRC[17:29:04] <rno> does not give information about zones[17:29:13] <CosmicDJ> abcdefgggggg: setup a dhcp server somewhere in your net, and you should be fine[17:29:27] <brett_> indeed it does ;)[17:29:40] <rno> if you look at the bottom[17:30:02] <seanmcg> d3xter, you may want to ask on the pkg alias then ?[17:30:02] <rno> you won't see more info for zones[17:30:02] <abcdefgggggg> cosmic, how? :o wut[17:30:16] *** jiraia has quit IRC[17:30:20] <brett_> rno: i think you might want to refine your analysis process ;)[17:30:29] <rno> I do[17:30:39] <rno> I've got 20 severs to monitor[17:30:40] <brett_> rno: but if you just want to see utilization per zone, zvmstat is useful[17:30:56] <rno> and I'm trying to find a good way to pull data from the server[17:31:01] <rno> and not from each zones[17:31:06] <brett_> but, prstat -mZL will show you where your load is coming from.[17:31:12] <tsoome> rno how many cpus you got?[17:31:17] <rno> T2[17:31:22] <rno> 1 cpu[17:31:26] <rno> 64 threads[17:31:27] <tsoome> virtual ones[17:31:31] *** egoz has joined #opensolaris[17:31:38] <rno> zvmstat... I will have a look at this zone[17:31:40] <tsoome> so os knows its 64way[17:32:03] *** yippi has quit IRC[17:32:28] <CosmicDJ> abcdefgggggg: no dhcp server? well I guess you need to use static IPs then[17:32:57] <abcdefgggggg> wtf idk how to setup dhcp server :P[17:33:07] <rno> brett_: I could also the LAT and pull the triger if LAT is high[17:33:35] <CosmicDJ> abcdefgggggg: nic supported? run the device detection utility on the livecd[17:33:38] *** pt- has quit IRC[17:33:47] <abcdefgggggg> k but its slow :) wait brb[17:34:19] <d3xter> seanmcg: ?[17:34:27] *** Dar_ has joined #opensolaris[17:34:28] *** Dar has quit IRC[17:34:34] *** servo- has quit IRC[17:35:16] <seanmcg> d3xter, yup. I mean the pkg mailing list. Right ?[17:35:28] *** alfism has joined #opensolaris[17:35:40] <brett_> rno: if i'm understanding your commentary, you're not actually trying to track down a current problem, you're concerned about how to monitor utilization per zone, and don't want to resort to using containers to put resource limits in place?[17:37:09] *** wewek has quit IRC[17:37:16] <brett_> if that's the case, then i guess i'd say putting in soft and hard limits per zone is the most reasonable thing to do, coupled with using the normal monitoring tools[17:40:06] <rno> brett_ Both[17:40:22] *** yippi has joined #opensolaris[17:40:27] <rno> brett_ zones are mixed btw share and dedicat cpu[17:40:45] <rno> I change the config tomorrow and see how it goes[17:40:53] <rno> in the mean time[17:41:05] *** bubbva has quit IRC[17:41:10] <rno> I'm trying to put together some kind of custom tool to monitor usage[17:41:16] <rno> to be proactive[17:41:25] *** bubbva has joined #opensolaris[17:41:25] <d3xter> seanmcg: ok[17:42:01] <tsoome> rno how many processes you have in total?[17:42:03] <seanmcg> d3xter, and or the zones mailing list too :}[17:42:19] <rno> tssome 600P 5000LWP[17:43:02] <rno> LAT with prstat is very good, but does not indicate in which zone it's happend[17:43:04] <tsoome> you may wanna try really simple setup with all shared cpu first[17:43:34] <rno> I wasn't there when it's been design[17:43:40] <rno> and I'm trying to cop with it[17:43:56] <tsoome> human design doesnt mean its good;)[17:44:00] <rno> but aim to find the right layout[17:44:06] <rno> I will need numbers first[17:44:21] <rno> to workout how zones are in use[17:45:33] *** kb7sqi has joined #opensolaris[17:46:23] *** cwebber has quit IRC[17:46:33] <brett_> rno: if you have or can configure resource pools, poolstat might give you a good initial assessment[17:46:59] <brett_> but it's possible zvmstat might be good enough for an initial stab too ;)[17:47:57] <rno> prstat -Z is not good enough[17:48:01] *** gnut has quit IRC[17:48:09] <rno> and I will try poolstat[17:48:13] <rno> never used it[17:48:22] <rno> It's always nice to find new tool[17:48:46] <tsoome> it might be an idea to use FSS and just assign more shares for zones which need some quaranteed computing power, but i guess yea you need some time to get an picture[17:48:50] <brett_> given how your zones sound like they are setup, it probably won't be an out-of-the-box tool[17:48:59] <brett_> good point, tsoome[17:49:06] <brett_> what schedular are you using?[17:49:57] <rno> I'm not sure if my answer will be the right one[17:49:59] <rno> but[17:50:27] <flyingparchment> the right answer is probably TS or FSS. TS is the default[17:50:28] *** niq has quit IRC[17:50:32] <tsoome> also, i dont think they have updated the load calculation formula to be suitable for even SMP systems, not to speak about multithreaded systems[17:50:36] <Randello> bye and good night[17:50:43] <rno> there is cpu share and dedicate cpu[17:50:43] *** MrStamp has quit IRC[17:51:31] *** egoz has quit IRC[17:51:40] <rno> flyingparchment: did not touch this for sure[17:51:48] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #opensolaris[17:51:57] <flyingparchment> FSS lets you assign all zones to all cpus, but give some zones priority[17:51:58] <tsoome> while dedicated cpu might sound an noble idea, it can do more harm than good in real life[17:52:04] <flyingparchment> (you can assign a certain number of cpu 'shares' to each zone)[17:52:21] <rno> so it's been FFS[17:52:44] *** PaulR_ has joined #opensolaris[17:53:24] <holcomb> let the OS sort it out...[17:53:26] *** het_ has quit IRC[17:53:27] <rno> dedicated-cpu and priv=privileged,limit=100,[17:53:42] <brett_> rno: check for scheduling-class: FSS[17:54:01] <rno> I'm readind the solaris internal :)[17:54:29] <brett_> rno: http://www.princeton.edu/~unix/Solaris/troubleshoot/schedule.html[17:54:37] <brett_> that's probably the best quick introduction[17:54:55] *** het has joined #opensolaris[17:55:01] *** Vanuatoo has joined #opensolaris[17:55:10] <rno> thx Brett[17:55:19] <rno> just checked and both are in use[17:55:27] <rno> FSS and FX[17:55:37] <rno> trying to move from FX to FSS[17:55:53] *** pandarilho has quit IRC[17:56:32] <flyingparchment> FX? heh[17:56:40] <flyingparchment> dedicated cpus and FX sounds like someone's a bit too over-controlling[17:56:53] <rno> fixed-priority[17:57:05] <rno> flyingparchment: you are right[17:57:05] *** dunc has quit IRC[17:57:10] <rno> this model did not workout[17:57:30] *** ken-w1 has quit IRC[17:57:31] *** jfisc has joined #opensolaris[17:57:44] <rno> and tool like prstat -Z did not report a good information[17:57:48] <rno> about cpu usage[17:57:50] *** abcdefgggggg has quit IRC[17:58:00] <brett_> isn't inheriting other peoples mess fun?[17:58:19] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[17:58:33] <rno> it is...[17:58:40] <CIA-33> Vikram Hegde <Vikram.Hegde at Sun dot COM>: 6819115 delete ddi_find_pci_parent() - dead code[17:58:41] <CIA-33> Mark Maybee <Mark.Maybee at Sun dot COM>: 6806627 zfs_putpage gets it backwards, Contributed by Jurgen Keil[17:59:00] <rno> brett_: I will try poolstat and zvmstat[17:59:17] <rno> and collect data to see if it reflect any reality and in the mean time[17:59:17] <tsoome> i would clear all out, figure out what zones need more quaranteed resources than others and try to set up the resource controls accordingly[17:59:47] *** Randello has quit IRC[18:00:01] <rno> tsoome: I'm sure you know it's not that easy, once it's in use you can't play too much[18:00:15] <rno> I'm trying to get stats first[18:00:19] <rno> before acting[18:00:20] <tsoome> thats true[18:00:57] <rno> I've wrote a online-dtrace to to get "on-cpu" data[18:01:25] *** Fullmoon has quit IRC[18:01:28] <rno> I will have a look in the dtrace toolkits[18:01:31] <tsoome> but what you also can do is to try to get some background data - like if one zone got dedicated cpu, why? what kind if issues they were trying to solve[18:01:34] <rno> might be the best option[18:01:57] <rno> tsoome: it's all about project[18:02:09] <rno> server have been split by project[18:02:21] <rno> and each project got a number of "cpu"[18:02:31] <rno> and mem[18:02:37] <rno> and now everyone complain[18:02:38] <rno> lol[18:02:43] <tsoome> indeed[18:03:00] <rno> I reckon they were thinking that[18:03:07] *** bowdengl_ has joined #opensolaris[18:03:12] <rno> 1 thread in the T2 was 1 cpu[18:03:27] <rno> So I let you imagine...[18:03:43] <tsoome> the bad thing about hard limits like dedicated cpu is that that will lock you to this cpu and there is no freedom to get more resources to resolve peaks[18:03:54] <rno> true[18:04:41] *** bowdengl_ has quit IRC[18:05:17] <tsoome> only case when dedicated cpus are hard to avoid is to deal with cpu count based licenses...[18:06:29] <rno> Oh yeah![18:06:32] *** ken1 has joined #opensolaris[18:06:50] <rno> vmware are doing well providing good monitoring solution[18:07:01] <rno> seems to be a bit more tricky with zones[18:07:34] *** sndcrb2 has joined #opensolaris[18:07:35] *** Randello has joined #opensolaris[18:07:50] *** Dar has joined #opensolaris[18:08:32] *** Dar_ has quit IRC[18:09:31] *** Erwannc has quit IRC[18:11:32] *** cwebber has joined #opensolaris[18:12:28] *** designs703 has joined #opensolaris[18:12:45] <designs703> Let's say I have a bunch of servers that I can SSH in to with the same key[18:12:58] <designs703> Is there a way I could remotely issue a command to each of them without logging in?[18:13:07] <designs703> Sort of like scp but for a quick command[18:13:26] *** ken1 has quit IRC[18:13:28] <CosmicDJ> ssh server /bin/ls[18:13:44] *** ken1 has joined #opensolaris[18:14:31] <designs703> OK, thanks[18:15:25] <CosmicDJ> only works with passwd-less auth keys (see ssh-keygen)[18:15:34] <designs703> works fine for what I'm doing[18:16:26] *** drondia has quit IRC[18:16:26] *** alphabet- has quit IRC[18:16:39] *** abcdefgggggg has joined #opensolaris[18:17:09] *** phimic has quit IRC[18:17:29] *** yippi has quit IRC[18:17:32] <Dorfo1> how to write down the USB boot image without the usbcopy method?[18:17:34] <designs703> I have a more general bash scripting question. How do I get all of the output from my script?[18:17:40] <abcdefgggggg> hey..device driver utility says: Third-party driverr not installed. install it manually.. (my network doesnt work till i do...)[18:17:45] <abcdefgggggg> so omfg what should i do now?[18:17:46] *** niq has quit IRC[18:18:21] <designs703> abcdefgggggg: floppy?[18:18:25] <CosmicDJ> designs703: man script[18:18:35] <designs703> CosmicDJ: thanks[18:18:37] <Dorfo1> designs703: you could redirect the output to a file[18:18:41] *** Yamazaki-kun has joined #opensolaris[18:18:41] <rno> designs703: There a very good chan: #bash[18:18:52] <designs703> OK, thanks, sorry for the OT[18:19:07] <rno> designs703: ./script > out 2>&1[18:19:43] *** RandalSchwartz has quit IRC[18:20:02] *** bubbva has quit IRC[18:20:13] *** javatexan has joined #opensolaris[18:20:14] *** bubbva has joined #opensolaris[18:21:26] *** sndcrb has quit IRC[18:21:33] <abcdefgggggg> designs703, i dont have[18:21:42] <abcdefgggggg> and no[18:21:44] <abcdefgggggg> network[18:22:00] <Dorfo1> anybody knows how to write the USB iso without the use of usbcopy? does dd works?[18:22:25] *** sipior has left #opensolaris[18:23:18] <abcdefgggggg> omg my network doesnt workkk so how to install third-party driver omffg! :D[18:23:20] <CosmicDJ> Dorfo1: http://src.opensolaris.org/source/xref/livemedia/livemedia/usbcopy[18:23:39] <abcdefgggggg> my networkcard says i have to install thir-party drivermanually[18:23:40] <abcdefgggggg> shit![18:23:44] <CosmicDJ> abcdefgggggg: usbstick? burn a cd, uuencode it and print it out + type it in[18:24:09] *** piwi has joined #opensolaris[18:24:35] <abcdefgggggg> what?[18:24:56] *** revlo has joined #opensolaris[18:25:23] <CosmicDJ> put the 3rd party driver on an usbstick, usbdisk, firewiredisk, floppy, cdrw, dvdrw, bluerayrw[18:25:49] <Dorfo1> CosmicDJ: does it works in another operating system i mean, not porting this script[18:25:52] <abcdefgggggg> and where can i find the 3rd party driver? :o[18:26:24] <CosmicDJ> abcdefgggggg: IIRC the device detection utility gives you a URL...[18:26:55] <abcdefgggggg> applications - system utilities - device driver utlity ?[18:26:59] <abcdefgggggg> it does? it didnt :o[18:27:51] <CosmicDJ> abcdefgggggg: http://blogs.sun.com/observatory/resource/2009_01_device_detection_tool/Screenshot-SunDeviceDetectionTool.png "Notee-1."[18:28:02] *** rv- has joined #opensolaris[18:28:26] <abcdefgggggg> wow where is it[18:28:35] <abcdefgggggg> is it on my opensolaris by default?[18:28:40] *** Randello has quit IRC[18:29:30] *** bubbva has quit IRC[18:29:43] *** bubbva has joined #opensolaris[18:29:50] *** inaddy has joined #opensolaris[18:32:43] <CosmicDJ> Dorfo1: no idea, sry[18:32:46] <revlo> hi, when I only see one frequency @ supported frequecies_Hz in the output of kstat -m cpu_info, am I lacking some sort of driver or something (eg is there something I can do) or just bad luck? (for speedstepping with powernow on a amd Athlon X2 BE 2300 )[18:32:56] <abcdefgggggg> omg i dont have internet on my comp and i dont have usbstick .. :D:D[18:33:00] <Dorfo1> CosmicDJ: thx anyway :][18:33:35] <piwi> revlo: no support for powernow on Athlon X2[18:34:22] <revlo> piwi: oh thats sad, will it be in future releases? or is this just the too much el cheapo Hardware?[18:34:26] <rno> clear[18:35:27] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU[18:35:42] <piwi> revlo: i'm just searching for the thread, something with race conditions due to hw problems on the K8 athlons, so i don't think so.[18:35:42] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju[18:35:45] *** yarihm has joined #opensolaris[18:36:01] <abcdefgggggg> CosmicDJ, im going to buy a usbstick[18:36:19] <abcdefgggggg> ... so then ill be able to run device detection tool on my comp[18:36:25] <revlo> piwi: thx[18:36:30] <abcdefgggggg> cuz it has no internet (my network card needs 3rd driver )[18:36:45] <abcdefgggggg> and i hope opensolaris will be able to read my usbstick[18:36:46] <abcdefgggggg> wow[18:36:52] *** dynamicproxy has joined #opensolaris[18:36:53] *** MattMan has quit IRC[18:37:07] <abcdefgggggg> later[18:37:12] <abcdefgggggg> thanks for help cosmicdj[18:37:28] *** abcdefgggggg has quit IRC[18:38:30] *** dynamicproxy has quit IRC[18:38:50] *** designs703 has left #opensolaris[18:38:50] <piwi> revlo: here's the thread: https://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=65272[18:39:05] <revlo> thank you *reading*[18:40:30] *** mib_nxy3e4 has joined #opensolaris[18:40:37] <mib_nxy3e4> hello...[18:40:50] <mib_nxy3e4> there is a way to list snapshots for "just" one filesystem?[18:41:15] *** comay has joined #opensolaris[18:41:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay[18:41:45] <piwi> list all and grep?[18:41:57] <rno> /IGNORE #channel ALL -PUBLIC -ACTIONS[18:43:26] *** sommerfeld has joined #opensolaris[18:43:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o sommerfeld[18:44:11] *** kb7sqi has quit IRC[18:45:34] *** piwi has quit IRC[18:46:55] *** ravv has quit IRC[18:47:03] *** rno has quit IRC[18:47:54] *** stux|RC-only has joined #opensolaris[18:51:29] *** rno has joined #opensolaris[18:51:57] *** chrisr has quit IRC[18:54:01] *** rno has quit IRC[18:54:12] *** rno has joined #opensolaris[18:54:21] *** DTEIT has quit IRC[18:54:35] *** rno has quit IRC[18:54:45] *** rno has joined #opensolaris[18:55:18] *** Fullmoon has joined #opensolaris[18:55:34] *** rno has quit IRC[18:56:51] *** ddosia has joined #opensolaris[18:58:11] *** Dorfo1 has left #opensolaris[18:58:38] <CIA-33> Rao Shoaib <Rao.Shoaib at Sun dot COM>: 6818637 udp_tpi_connect can use stale pointer[19:00:43] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU[19:03:41] *** stevel_ has joined #opensolaris[19:04:48] *** callyma has quit IRC[19:04:54] *** ddosia has left #opensolaris[19:05:11] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju[19:06:54] *** mib_nxy3e4 has quit IRC[19:07:34] *** darth4 has joined #opensolaris[19:08:46] *** KermitTheFragger has quit IRC[19:09:38] *** cypromis has quit IRC[19:09:49] *** jollyd has joined #opensolaris[19:10:18] *** |rt| has left #opensolaris[19:10:23] *** Dar has quit IRC[19:10:47] *** medar has quit IRC[19:12:04] *** stevel has quit IRC[19:12:56] *** hajma_ has joined #opensolaris[19:13:33] *** colyte has quit IRC[19:15:54] *** medar has joined #opensolaris[19:18:33] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[19:18:56] *** Vonor has joined #opensolaris[19:19:12] *** nsuperbus has joined #opensolaris[19:19:24] *** AxeZ has joined #opensolaris[19:25:16] *** sletz has joined #opensolaris[19:25:42] *** hajma has quit IRC[19:25:43] *** teknoprep has quit IRC[19:26:55] *** skullone has quit IRC[19:27:09] *** Vonoff has quit IRC[19:28:15] *** BlueAidan_work has quit IRC[19:29:13] *** hajma__ has joined #opensolaris[19:29:41] *** BlueAidan_work has joined #opensolaris[19:30:11] *** cri__ has joined #opensolaris[19:32:04] *** sletz has quit IRC[19:32:37] *** yarihm has quit IRC[19:33:16] *** TT has joined #opensolaris[19:33:38] *** TT has left #opensolaris[19:37:23] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[19:40:38] *** nsuperbus has joined #opensolaris[19:43:04] *** stevel_ has quit IRC[19:43:07] *** servo- has joined #opensolaris[19:43:18] *** ken1 has quit IRC[19:43:44] *** hajma_ has quit IRC[19:44:02] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[19:44:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[19:45:56] *** LeftyBSD is now known as Lefty[19:46:12] *** Lefty is now known as LeftyBSD[19:46:47] *** d6g|away is now known as d6g[19:46:52] *** comay has quit IRC[19:47:16] *** d6g is now known as d6g|away[19:47:37] *** abcdefgggggg has joined #opensolaris[19:48:05] <abcdefgggggg> hi, CosmicDJ So what to do? My net doesnt work on my opensolaris and i cant use ddtool on it... doesnt work :S[19:48:11] <abcdefgggggg> ahhh[19:48:18] *** calumb has quit IRC[19:49:33] *** |rt| has joined #opensolaris[19:51:08] *** cri__ is now known as mega__[19:53:01] *** niq has quit IRC[19:54:46] *** LouisJB_ has joined #opensolaris[20:00:15] *** prav33n has joined #opensolaris[20:00:45] <ikarius> hmm. quick question here... does anyone know of valid instructions for doing PXE boot+install of opensolaris 2008.11 where the PXE server is linux?[20:01:45] <CosmicDJ> abcdefgggggg: buy an usb stick ;)[20:01:48] <ikarius> I found what looks like some useful info on the opensolaris forums, but the instructions are based on using jumpstart, and I found something else which says that 2008.11 no longer uses jumpstart, it uses autoinstall[20:01:58] <brett_> ikarius: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/docs/content/2008.11/AIinstall/overview.html[20:02:12] <abcdefgggggg> COSMIC[20:02:14] <abcdefgggggg> i did[20:02:15] <abcdefgggggg> :D[20:02:28] <ikarius> brett- I saw those. those appear to require a solaris host[20:02:34] <jkimball4> Is any that has the thinkpad scroll button working willing to share what they did?[20:02:43] <abcdefgggggg> jkimball!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![20:02:46] <abcdefgggggg> !!!!!!!!!!![20:02:58] <brett_> ikarius: yep. if you want to pxe boot something, try sxce[20:03:00] *** comay has joined #opensolaris[20:03:05] <CosmicDJ> abcdefgggggg: then go to the website the device detec. util. mentioned and download your driver[20:03:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay[20:03:22] <ikarius> so, as of 2008.11, it's no longer possible to PXE boot+install from an OS other than solaris?[20:03:22] <ikarius> that[20:03:37] <ikarius> that seems pretty shortsighted... networks today are more heterogeneous than ever.[20:03:38] <brett_> ikarius: the keyword you're looking for is 'yet' ;)[20:03:46] <brett_> AI is a work in progress[20:03:55] <brett_> perhaps it works great on linux; i haven't tested it.[20:03:58] <abcdefgggggg> cosmic i did[20:04:16] <abcdefgggggg> but idk how to install pkgadd -d . bla doesnt work it says no packages in .. or idk something like dat[20:04:18] <abcdefgggggg> lool[20:04:23] <ikarius> yeah, but it's a bummer to have broken something which worked previously with an indefinite "will be fixed again some time in the future"[20:04:59] <brett_> ikarius: there's a reason why s10 is still the production release ;)[20:05:13] <ikarius> s10 doesn't have comstar ;)[20:05:22] *** bma_ has joined #opensolaris[20:05:27] <bma_> ngargh[20:05:28] <brett_> sxce does[20:05:36] <CosmicDJ> abcdefgggggg: follow the instructions in the archive you downloaded[20:05:44] <brett_> but yes...if you want the shiny new toys, beware the rough edges ;)[20:05:54] <bma_> I did something I thought was rather innocuous, and after my osol 2008.11 box rebooted into a grub prompt[20:06:08] <brett_> or in modern terms, the foul/life threatening chemicals, i suppose[20:06:11] <bma_> if I boot from livecd I cant import zfs pools[20:06:42] <ikarius> I thought SXCE got crushed and rolled into opensolaris?[20:06:47] <brett_> nein.[20:06:49] <bma_> i am rather newbie-ish on solaris, but relatively experienced with linux[20:06:56] * ikarius is confused now[20:07:12] <bma_> if anyone can point me in the rifght direction, I would be very grateful[20:07:19] <ikarius> when was the last SXCE release, and could you point me a download URL?[20:07:26] <brett_> http://opensolaris.org/os/downloads/sol_ex_dvd_1/[20:07:37] <brett_> b110 rolled a few days ago...maybe a week, i guess[20:07:43] <fraggeln> no encryption on zfs yet? :)[20:08:33] <bma_> please, anyone[20:08:37] <ikarius> brett- thanks for the link- when was that last updated?[20:08:49] <ikarius> i.e. how much older than osol 2008.11 is it?[20:08:54] <brett_> it's newer.[20:08:58] <bma_> have any of you tried rebooting opensolaris and ending up in the grub prompt?[20:09:05] <brett_> 2008.11 is b101[20:09:10] <brett_> 2008.11 dev branch is b109[20:09:13] <brett_> sxce is b110[20:09:18] <ikarius> oho. that sounds promising.[20:09:20] <brett_> sxce is always ahead of opensolaris.[20:09:23] <ikarius> thanks very much brett[20:09:30] <brett_> and you can pxe boot it all day long ;)[20:09:32] <brett_> np[20:10:23] <brett_> it's entirely possible that making AI work on linux could be trivial...you could grab it from hg and find out[20:10:27] <ikarius> last q on it- compiler tools- are they now bundled into SXCE, or is there a package someplace I need to download?[20:11:09] <ikarius> I believe I may have been confused as SXDE went away?[20:11:13] <brett_> if you're happy with gcc, it's on the dvd as a regular package[20:11:24] <brett_> if you want spro, you need to d/l[20:11:31] <brett_> yep, sxde went away[20:11:43] <ikarius> ok, gcc is sufficient for that which I would want to do[20:12:28] <ikarius> I'll spend a bit of time poking at AI, see if it's reasonable to make it work on linux[20:12:54] <ikarius> but if SXCE is still installed via jumpstart, it'[20:13:11] <ikarius> it's most likely to work with the bits I found on the forums.[20:13:19] <brett_> eyup.[20:13:22] <brett_> lunch, bbiaf ;)[20:13:25] *** brett_ is now known as brett_|away[20:13:29] <ikarius> ... there doesn't appear to be much canonical documentation on what I'd like to do.[20:15:43] *** gretel has joined #opensolaris[20:16:01] *** bma_ has quit IRC[20:17:17] *** niner has joined #opensolaris[20:18:27] *** abcdefgggggg has quit IRC[20:21:35] *** vincit_veritas has joined #opensolaris[20:22:14] *** bma_ has joined #opensolaris[20:22:37] <bma_> if zpool import -f rpool fails with an i/o error, am I boned?[20:23:01] <bma_> do I need to replace the disk or reinstall or something like that, or is there a simple way to fix this?[20:23:27] <fraggeln> bma_: does dmesg tells you something?[20:23:54] <bma_> fraggeln: after I try to zfs import?[20:24:16] <fraggeln> bma_: yea[20:24:20] *** javatexan has quit IRC[20:25:11] <bma_> fraggeln: no, not as far I can tell[20:25:45] <bma_> oddly, there are no dmesg messages within the last 7 hours, even though i booted into this live cd an hour ago[20:27:02] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[20:27:26] <bma_> fraggeln: anything else I can check?[20:28:15] *** javatexan has joined #opensolaris[20:28:24] <fraggeln> bma_: well, if your hdds would have any failures hardware-speaking, you should see some errors in dmesg.[20:28:33] <fraggeln> so, maybe we can assume that they are ok.[20:29:14] <bma_> fraggeln: I think they are - I am fairly sure this problem occurred because the power got cut to the server[20:29:40] <bma_> I see there are others who have had the same problem due to something as simple as this, but I dont see any solutions the places I find[20:29:55] <fraggeln> what does zpool status gives you?[20:30:01] <fraggeln> do you see rpool?[20:30:03] <bma_> luckily my main zraid pool is fine, but unfortunately my system disk is the one that is screwed[20:30:14] <bma_> fraggeln: I can't do a zpool status[20:30:19] <bma_> because i cant import the pool[20:30:39] <bma_> I am currently booted from a live cd[20:30:49] <bma_> I can see my two pools with zpool import[20:30:58] <bma_> but the rpool is faulted[20:31:07] <fraggeln> maybe you cant import it to the livecd then?[20:31:14] *** gretel has quit IRC[20:31:15] <bma_> that's what I am trying[20:31:24] <bma_> thats when I get an i/o error[20:31:31] <bma_> zfs import -f rpool[20:31:33] <fraggeln> cant.. :)[20:31:34] *** gretel has joined #opensolaris[20:31:42] *** brett_|away is now known as brett_[20:31:44] <fraggeln> since its a livecd and no place to write config.[20:31:53] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[20:31:53] <bma_> is that the problem?[20:32:06] <d3xter> how can i convert a struct into a string in dtrace?[20:32:10] <bma_> it doesn't mount a temporary ram drive or something?[20:32:53] <fraggeln> bma_: well, I dont know how the live cd works, never used it actualy.[20:33:06] <bma_> usually live cds have a writable fs[20:33:16] <fraggeln> ok[20:33:23] <bma_> yup[20:33:26] <bma_> it's writable[20:34:14] *** m3lling has quit IRC[20:34:24] <bma_> gah[20:34:33] <bma_> crap[20:35:04] *** gretel has quit IRC[20:35:11] <fraggeln> Then I'm guessing that I'm not very usefull for further assistance.[20:35:20] <fraggeln> because I'm out of ideas.[20:36:11] *** gretel has joined #opensolaris[20:36:12] *** jbit has joined #opensolaris[20:36:19] *** spiki has joined #opensolaris[20:36:32] <jbit> silly question... how do i find out the /dev/ entry of a usb mass storage device? it doesnt show up in "format" or "cfgadm" ;p[20:36:57] <ShadowHntr> probably dmesg[20:37:00] <ShadowHntr> or /var/log/messages[20:37:05] <gretel> yep, probably[20:37:20] <fraggeln> jbit: check under /media[20:37:30] <CosmicDJ> jbit: rmformat[20:37:32] <ShadowHntr> i'm sorry, /var/adm/messages[20:37:36] <fraggeln> if its a known filesystem, it will automount it there :)[20:37:37] <jbit> CosmicDJ: thanks![20:37:58] <CosmicDJ> jbit: or format -e if you really want to format it...[20:38:07] <jbit> CosmicDJ: rmformat told me its name ;P[20:38:47] <bma_> ok[20:38:55] <bma_> fraggeln: thanks for trying[20:38:56] *** bma_ has quit IRC[20:40:20] *** _ej_ has joined #opensolaris[20:40:51] <ShadowHntr> has anyone successfully got the freenx+nx package working on opensolaris?[20:40:57] <ShadowHntr> i can't find any of the config files[20:41:03] <ShadowHntr> and it's giving config file errors[20:41:10] *** gretel has quit IRC[20:41:19] *** gretel has joined #opensolaris[20:41:38] <SplasPood> Can someone direct me to where Solaris 10 hides grub's menu.lst ?[20:41:49] <holcomb> zfs root?[20:41:58] <holcomb> /name-of-rpool/boot/grub[20:42:03] <LeftyBSD> find / -name menu.lst -print[20:42:03] <fraggeln> SplasPood: /boot/grub/menu.lst[20:42:05] <LeftyBSD> should tell you[20:42:06] <SplasPood> holcomb: nah, old-school UFS root[20:42:14] <holcomb> oh, then what fraggeln said[20:42:14] <SplasPood> fraggeln: hrm, thats what I woulda thought but it's not there[20:42:39] <fraggeln> SunOS sprocket.fraggelberget.nu 5.10 Generic_138889-03 i86pc i386 i86pc[20:42:47] <fraggeln> bash-3.00# ls -l |grep menu.lst[20:42:47] <fraggeln> bash-3.00# pwd[20:42:47] <fraggeln> /boot/grub[20:42:49] <fraggeln> sure it is[20:42:58] <SplasPood> odd.. because it's def not there on mine.[20:43:10] <SplasPood> root@d-storage0 # ls -lF /boot/grub/menu.lst[20:43:10] <SplasPood> /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory[20:43:24] <SplasPood> SunOS d-storage0 5.10 Generic_127112-06 i86pc i386 i86pc[20:44:05] *** RElling has joined #opensolaris[20:45:37] <SplasPood> actually, none of my Sol10 U5 hosts seem to have it[20:46:20] *** niner has quit IRC[20:46:52] <SplasPood> or U4, which is what this host is..[20:46:57] <d3xter> SplasPood: what does find say?[20:47:35] *** pgr has quit IRC[20:47:48] <SplasPood> d3xter: as in, a find for menu.lst across all of / ?[20:47:49] *** mroconno1 has joined #opensolaris[20:48:08] *** wbkang has joined #opensolaris[20:48:14] *** mroconno1 is now known as mroconnor_[20:48:14] <d3xter> SplasPood: yes[20:48:25] *** victori has joined #opensolaris[20:48:29] <SplasPood> ok, I'll do that in a moment then[20:49:26] *** pjfloyd has joined #opensolaris[20:49:44] <wbkang> Is there any reason as to why pfexec fails with " pfexec: can't add cwd path" on nfs mounted home directory ?[20:50:03] *** pjfloyd has left #opensolaris[20:50:27] <Stric> wbkang: can 'nobody' (which root gets mapped to) read your dir?[20:50:30] *** Rocket2DMn has joined #opensolaris[20:50:41] <wbkang> oh[20:50:58] <wbkang> should I give read+execute permission to others then ?[20:51:18] <SplasPood> d3xter: well still scanning, but: /var/sadm/pkg/SUNWgrub/save/pspool/SUNWgrub/reloc/boot/grub/menu.lst[20:51:18] <wbkang> my home directory's permission is set to owner@:full_set:df:allow[20:52:10] *** javatexan has quit IRC[20:52:35] *** RandalSchwartz has joined #OpenSolaris[20:52:37] <wbkang> stric: but I don't want "others" to be able to read my home directory...[20:52:51] <Stric> wbkang: others like nobody(root)[20:53:16] <Stric> wbkang: you better decide if you want to pfexec stuff from your homedir or not then[20:53:36] <wbkang> Stric: that makes sense. Thanks a lot.[20:53:46] <wbkang> Stric: any role based ACLs ?[20:54:03] <Stric> and if you make a complete question out of that?[20:54:48] <wbkang> Could I apply ACLs for files so that only uid=0, gid=0 and I can read my home directory?[20:55:18] <e^ipi> yes[20:55:26] <Stric> yes. root over nfs is normally mapped to the user nobody[20:55:27] <wbkang> pfexec id gives me uid=0, and gid=0, so if I give root:full_set:df:allow[20:55:32] *** mib_0smse47d has left #opensolaris[20:55:46] <wbkang> I am a little confused.[20:55:58] <wbkang> Is user nobody accesible to anyone else than root ?[20:56:05] <Stric> When root does something over NFS, the server sees "nobody"[20:56:12] <Stric> not "root"[20:56:19] <d3xter> what does "the latter is not power managed" mean, if i plug in my usb-drive?[20:56:26] <ShadowHntr> unless you have root_squash enabled[20:56:32] <ShadowHntr> which is *extremely* insecure[20:56:36] <SplasPood> d3xter: yea, its not finding a menu.lst .. but there certainly is one as I just booted into it[20:57:06] <wbkang> So, my question is, can anyone else than "root" be mapped to "nobody" in the target nfs server?[20:57:12] <wbkang> (other than nobody, of course)[20:57:18] <d3xter> SplasPood: hm my menu.lst is located at /rpool/boot/grub/menu.lst[20:57:37] <d3xter> but /var.. is the wrong path[20:57:43] <Stric> Normally no. Unless you do nfsv4 and don't use the same nfsv4 domain, then everyone gets mapped to nobody[20:58:11] <SplasPood> d3xter: yea, thats just from the cache of the package that installed grub[20:58:14] <wbkang> okie dokie! Thanks much Stric and e^ipi[20:58:45] <SplasPood> d3xter: ah ha![20:58:45] <SplasPood> root@jcochran # bootadm list-menu[20:58:45] <SplasPood> The location for the active GRUB menu is: /dev/md/dsk/d10 (not mounted)[20:58:56] <d3xter> hehe[20:59:38] <SplasPood> yep, there it is[20:59:41] *** nickv has joined #opensolaris[20:59:55] <SplasPood> thats actually a bit concerning... need to figure out what I did wrong there[21:00:37] <nickv> Hey all, using b91 x86...for some reason when I try to disable nfs:status via smf it sticks in an offline* state...the log states is is executing the kill[21:00:40] <nickv> offline* 15:23:33 svc:/network/nfs/status:default[21:00:49] <nickv> any ideas? i cant get it to disable, restart, or anything[21:01:15] *** vincit_veritas has quit IRC[21:01:39] <nickv> this is in the log: [ Mar 23 15:23:33 Executing stop method (:kill). ][21:03:48] *** luc^ has joined #opensolaris[21:04:03] *** tek-ops has joined #opensolaris[21:04:09] <tek-ops> hello all[21:04:14] *** ken1 has joined #opensolaris[21:04:15] <tek-ops> I'm taking another crack at nwam[21:04:22] <tek-ops> but I may have just realized something[21:04:30] <tek-ops> can you not have two active NICs with NWAM?[21:04:33] *** ken1 is now known as ken-h[21:05:02] <d3xter> tek-ops: no, you have to configure them manually[21:05:18] <tek-ops> ok, thats fine[21:05:34] <tek-ops> i just dont want some update that no longer supports network/physical:default[21:05:37] <tek-ops> you know what I mean[21:08:10] *** wbkang1 has joined #opensolaris[21:08:25] <CosmicDJ> that feature is planed for IBM Solaris...[21:08:32] <tek-ops> hahaha[21:08:42] <CosmicDJ> +n[21:08:45] <tek-ops> you can only use one NIC[21:08:59] <tek-ops> and it has to be infiniband!!!! rawr[21:09:04] <wbkang1> Is there any way to diagnose a machine that tells me -bash: fork: Not enough space for anything I do? It happens like every 3 days[21:09:07] <flyingparchment> FICON[21:09:20] <flyingparchment> also, the only supported platform will be S/390[21:09:31] <tek-ops> hahaha[21:09:45] <CosmicDJ> wbkang1: monitor memory/swap usage and find the process that's abusing your resources[21:10:07] <wbkang1> cosmicDJ: it refuses to fork any process at the moment :([21:10:28] <wbkang1> Oh now it does[21:10:45] <wbkang1> prstat tells me that[21:10:52] <nickv> wbkang1: is this on a web server?[21:10:54] <wbkang1> 1177M for "fmd"[21:11:03] <wbkang1> Nope, just a smb fileserver at home[21:11:24] <CosmicDJ> thats the fault management daemon...[21:11:32] <CosmicDJ> seems like smth is faulty ;)[21:11:50] *** Disorganized has quit IRC[21:12:01] <wbkang1> SIZE 1177 RSS 778M that[21:12:05] <wbkang1> s what it tells me[21:12:24] <wbkang1> :([21:13:46] <nickv> any ideas on my issue? svc: /network/nfs/status:default still in offline* via smf...log says its executing (kill)...any ideas? alll dependencies are online and running[21:14:10] <wbkang1> Wow, now it periodically throws me out of memory for fork[21:14:17] <CosmicDJ> nickv: svcs -xv[21:14:50] *** cypromis has quit IRC[21:14:59] <wbkang1> cosmicdj: Is there any record that could be helpful when i'm filing a bug report?[21:15:29] <wbkang1> I can't do anything atm though... it refuses to do anything with the error -bash: fork: Not enough space[21:15:57] <nickv> CosmicDJ: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/QrAFTL[21:16:02] <nickv> it says its excuting kill in the log[21:16:08] <nickv> i cant even send it to maintence[21:16:09] <nickv> odd[21:16:34] <CosmicDJ> wbkang1: well I'd first examine the faults (fmdump etc.)[21:17:36] <wbkang1> cosmicdj: fault.fs.zfs.vdev.checksum Problem in: zfs://pool=rpool/vdev=35538dcd06c91cec[21:17:45] <wbkang1> Doesn't sound like a good thing to me at all...[21:17:54] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[21:18:00] *** samuelig has joined #opensolaris[21:18:09] <CosmicDJ> nickv: statd alread running?[21:18:21] <nickv> no[21:18:28] <nickv> but startd isn't running (configd) is[21:18:31] <CosmicDJ> wbkang1: and fmstat shows?[21:18:37] <nickv> and startd and configd run the smf dont they?[21:18:40] <CosmicDJ> nickv: ps -ef | grep nfs[21:19:38] <wbkang1> cosmicdj: i just wanted to tell you that I really appreciate your help on this.[21:19:38] <wbkang1> I'll run fmstat as soon as I can actually run it without the fork error. It looks like something related to zfs craps my machine out every 1 min[21:19:43] <nickv> svc.startd is giving me this error when i try to start it, its not running[21:19:43] <nickv> method.c:391: ct_pr_tmpl_set_transfer() failed with unexpected error 13. Aborting.[21:19:55] <nickv> svc.startd. and svc.configd run smf no?[21:20:17] <flyingparchment> uh.. you're not meant to 'run smf' yourself[21:20:29] <flyingparchment> it's like init, it starts at boot and never exits[21:20:40] <nickv> yea but if svc.startd crashes you gotta manually start it right?[21:20:42] *** ken1 has joined #opensolaris[21:21:04] <wbkang1> cosmicdj: Is it okay if I reset the machine and diagnose fmstat, etc? or should I wait until I am able to run fmstat?[21:21:18] <CosmicDJ> I never wrote smth like start, it's *s*t*a*t*d*[21:22:05] <nickv> CosmicDJ: daemon 16246 1 0 16:20:55 ? 0:00 /usr/lib/nfs/statd[21:22:23] <CosmicDJ> wbkang1: hm you might be able to delete (or smth like that) your faults with fmadm, but no idea if that works and a reboot might be faster...[21:22:35] *** e-jat has quit IRC[21:23:05] *** Yamazaki-kun has quit IRC[21:23:26] <CosmicDJ> nickv: so it's already running and smf tries to start a new one, that fails, smf doesn't know how to handle this...[21:24:09] <nickv> i think the problem is that /lib/svc/bin/svc.startd is not running[21:24:19] <nickv> but when i try to run it, because it looks like it crashed i get this[21:24:28] <wbkang1> cosmicdj: hmm I'll reboot the machine then. I just don't want to lose the fault record, because this problem happens like every few days after the machine's up[21:24:49] <CosmicDJ> wbkang1: then you should really check your hardware...[21:24:57] <nickv> Cosmicdj: I get this when i try to run svc.startd cus its crashed. method.c:391: ct_pr_tmpl_set_transfer() failed with unexpected error 13. Aborting.[21:25:33] <wbkang1> cosmicdj: mine machine runs on vmware on windows 2008.[21:25:43] *** Zaba_ has joined #opensolaris[21:26:37] <CosmicDJ> nickv: man svc.startd -> "svc.startd should never be invoked directly."[21:27:44] *** Gekz has quit IRC[21:28:23] <nickv> ok[21:28:33] *** ken-h has quit IRC[21:28:44] <nickv> CosmicDJ: i understand that, but it appears to have crashed then shutting down the nfs status service[21:28:46] <nickv> now what?[21:29:20] <CosmicDJ> nickv: so ps -ef | grep svs shows nothing?[21:29:28] <CosmicDJ> s/svs/svc/[21:29:45] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[21:29:45] <nickv> CosmicDJ: only this one /lib/svc/bin/svc.configd[21:29:50] <nickv> which is part of smf, but need svc.startd also[21:31:18] <CosmicDJ> hm ok that strange, but well your sxce build it quite old...[21:31:33] <CosmicDJ> +'s[21:31:50] <nickv> Build 91[21:31:50] <wbkang1> cosmicdj: http://pastealacon.com/2332[21:31:51] <nickv> still old u think?[21:32:02] *** capaz has quit IRC[21:32:11] <CosmicDJ> nickv: see /topic an answer that for yourself[21:33:37] <CosmicDJ> wbkang1: did you check the fmadm manpage, maybe you can clear the faults before it uses all avaiable memory again[21:34:01] <wbkang1> cosmicDJ: alright. I'll check it later again when it happens[21:34:01] <fkr> /win 13[21:34:05] <fkr> oops :)[21:34:29] <th> hi fkr :)[21:34:42] <nickv> CosmicDJ: /topic ?[21:35:39] <nickv> CosmicDJ: i get ya...the channel topic...but is 18 or so build releases behind that much?[21:35:58] *** pjfloyd has joined #opensolaris[21:36:03] *** pjfloyd has quit IRC[21:36:14] <flyingparchment> 18 builds is 36 weeks, which is over half a year... that's a lot for a development system[21:36:37] *** pjfloyd has joined #opensolaris[21:36:46] <nickv> gotcha[21:38:01] <CosmicDJ> wbkang1: did you check for any vmware updates? you could also bug them if you have support[21:38:22] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[21:39:06] *** inaddy has quit IRC[21:39:10] <wbkang> cosmicdj: It's most up to date afaik but I dont have any supports ;)[21:39:39] *** Zaba has quit IRC[21:39:42] <CosmicDJ> well vmware = emc2 == sun haters ;)[21:40:01] <wbkang1> CosmicDJ: LOL ok[21:40:55] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris[21:41:15] *** master_of_master has joined #opensolaris[21:41:26] *** scoffin has joined #opensolaris[21:41:55] <SplasPood> hrm.. sun was nice enough to provide docs on how to enable kmdb to later force a core dump, but didn't seem to provide instructions on HOW to force that dump once you drop to kmdb via a break[21:42:47] <seanmcg> $<systemdump[21:43:14] <SplasPood> ok yea[21:43:14] <Stric> http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/817-1985/fvzni?a=view[21:43:16] <SplasPood> I'm just an idiot[21:43:18] <SplasPood> it was in the doc[21:43:22] <SplasPood> but I dropped the $ like a fool[21:43:33] * tek-ops <3's IPS[21:44:03] <seanmcg> not sure why there isn't an dcmd for doing a dump. $<systemdump is very 'adb' ;)[21:44:03] <Stric> It could suck a whole lot less in some areas..[21:55:33] *** hsp has quit IRC[21:55:53] <SplasPood> hrm, be nice if sun was able to give me a straight answer about savecore path being on a ZFS volume but instead I just tried it myself :P[21:56:30] <pjfloyd> it looks like my SXCE 110 has managed to kill itself[21:56:54] <wbkang1> Why does useradd allow username to be longer than 8 characters but not users-admin?[21:57:46] <flyingparchment> "users-admin"?[21:57:57] <wbkang1> yep. the gnome-application[21:58:18] <wbkang1> users-admin is at system-administration- Users and Groups[21:58:48] <pjfloyd> after liveupgrade from SXCE 106, I noticed on shutdown I was getting error messaes like "bootadm invalid option -e" (can't remember 100% if it was bootadm)[22:00:54] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris[22:01:54] <d3xter> what is the difference between sxce and opensolaris?[22:02:43] <brett_> if i had $1 for every time that question comes up, i could outbid ibm[22:03:03] <FireflyST> OpenSolaris is more blue colored[22:03:35] <brett_> not belittling your question, d3xter, it's just an example of marketing gone wrong.[22:05:31] *** paalfe has joined #opensolaris[22:05:45] <FireflyST> where canI buy an openSolaris sticker for my laptop?[22:06:31] *** alain10 has joined #opensolaris[22:06:32] <brett_> FireflyST: usually for free at most OSUG meetings[22:06:37] <FireflyST> oh[22:07:26] <e^ipi> there's a swag store now too[22:07:29] <e^ipi> http://sunwear.sun.com/do/category/opensolaris[22:08:04] <seanmcg> pjfloyd, see http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6759337[22:08:41] <scoffin> better jump on that swag before it becomes antiques :-)[22:09:33] *** wbkang has quit IRC[22:09:39] *** AxeZ has quit IRC[22:11:24] <pjfloyd> trying a failsafe boot + sync of boot archive[22:13:18] *** aveteam has joined #opensolaris[22:14:06] <paalfe> where or who can I ask for drivers?[22:15:45] <FireflyST> I just bought a hat and a mug[22:15:59] <FireflyST> I am going to buy one of each othe other things when I have more money to spend[22:16:30] <houst0n> Heh, I'd shoot anyone on sight if I caught them wearing opensolaris swag[22:16:40] <houst0n> Coffee cup isn't bad[22:17:24] <FireflyST> why?[22:17:41] *** edgeoc has quit IRC[22:17:48] <houst0n> It's just .. so ... geeky[22:17:56] <FireflyST> meh, the hat was so cheap[22:17:59] *** edgeoc has joined #opensolaris[22:18:14] <FireflyST> and I needed a new hat[22:18:21] *** nickv has quit IRC[22:18:26] <houst0n> Chick magnet ;)[22:18:32] <FireflyST> are you in Houston, h0uston?[22:18:44] <houst0n> Nope, Scotland[22:18:49] <ikarius> you have a coffee cup with a chick magnet?[22:18:58] <ikarius> how do I get one of those accessories? ;)[22:19:04] <houst0n> So in theory I hate americans .. you lot aren't mostly bad tho[22:19:07] <houst0n> ;)[22:19:09] <ikarius> that's the cheapest chick magnet I've heard of yet[22:19:20] <ikarius> ... or does it only work on scottish chicks?[22:19:32] <houst0n> ikarius: Eh? Rohypnol is cheaper[22:19:38] <houst0n> Or a rubber hammer[22:19:50] <houst0n> Also good for getting new hdds from vendours without leaving marks on em[22:19:55] <houst0n> ours? err[22:20:03] <ikarius> Rohypnol is a controlled substance. I have yet to hear about someone being arrested for possession of a coffee mug[22:20:05] <pjfloyd> or 6 pints of heavy[22:20:58] <houst0n> ikarius: I assume you could get arrested for having a swastika on one in a primary school or goatse or such ...[22:21:02] <houst0n> Must have happened ...[22:21:06] <paalfe> was looking forward to use zfs, so I prepared my harddisks and installed opensolaris. Then I found out there is no drivers for my sata-controllers, Promise sata300 tx4. The Source Code for the linux driver is available, http://promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?productId=139&category=driver&os=100&go=GO , just wondered if someone would make drivers for opensolaris if possible with the use of the linux Source Code driver?[22:21:56] <pjfloyd> I don't think that (for licencing reasons) it's possible to use Linux GPL code in OpenSolaris[22:21:57] <ikarius> houst0n- it may have happened, I hadn[22:22:05] <ikarius> hadn't heard of it though.[22:22:27] <jbk> of course[22:22:34] <jbk> one could write some specs from the driver[22:22:37] <brett_> paalfe: can you switch it to ide compatibility mode?[22:22:41] <jbk> and someone else could use the specs to write a driver[22:22:47] *** javatexan has joined #opensolaris[22:22:55] <ikarius> therefore, based on purely allegorical evidence, the risk of owning a coffee mug is lower.[22:23:06] <brett_> i don't know anything about the promise cards[22:23:12] <paalfe> brett_: nope, can't switch it to ide compatibility mode, already tried that.[22:23:20] <houst0n> Well, I can't say i've seen any figures on either ...[22:23:25] <|rt|> I have a sis 4 port sata control and to get it to work with opensolaris I had to flash it with a non-raid version of their firmware[22:23:30] *** coffeetime has joined #opensolaris[22:23:32] <houst0n> For all we know more people get arrested for coffee mugs than err.. 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