March 22, 2009 
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i tried rootdir/W0 and ::call panic but neither works[04:33:49] <FireflyST> hey, can anyone tell me how to turn off tap-to-click on my Alps touchpad? it's driving me nuts[04:34:55] <FireflyST> using Indiana 11/08 btw[04:41:10] *** kate21de has quit IRC[04:45:07] *** sartek has quit IRC[04:49:19] *** e-jat has joined #opensolaris[04:50:39] *** gm152 has quit IRC[04:51:57] *** Rocket2DMn has quit IRC[04:53:17] *** sartek has joined #opensolaris[04:54:46] *** Sam1 has quit IRC[04:56:23] *** wims has left #opensolaris[04:58:59] *** onceuponastack has quit IRC[05:09:55] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju[05:22:20] *** gecjr has joined #opensolaris[05:27:40] *** samc has quit IRC[05:28:29] *** turtle has quit IRC[05:30:01] *** samc has joined #opensolaris[05:34:18] *** turtle has joined #OpenSolaris[05:44:45] *** gecjr has quit IRC[05:47:30] *** ddosia has joined #opensolaris[05:47:59] *** sartek has quit IRC[05:48:44] <ddosia> hello, i have strange sitaution:[05:49:04] <ddosia> yesteday i have created vnic via dladm[05:49:28] <ddosia> but after reboot it doesn`t show via dladm show-vnic[05:50:17] <ddosia> but if i try create it again, i see this message "object already exists"[05:50:30] <ddosia> what i do wrong?[05:50:48] *** jteo has joined #opensolaris[05:53:50] *** sartek has joined #opensolaris[05:54:48] *** axisys has quit IRC[05:56:00] *** stevel has quit IRC[05:58:51] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[05:58:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[06:04:58] *** myosound has joined #opensolaris[06:09:25] *** stewart has quit IRC[06:09:54] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU[06:11:01] *** asarch has quit IRC[06:17:12] *** asarch has joined #opensolaris[06:20:25] *** ShadowHntr has quit IRC[06:23:43] *** CyberBlue has quit IRC[06:27:36] *** luc^ has joined #opensolaris[06:29:45] *** myosound has quit IRC[06:35:18] *** Zikla has joined #opensolaris[06:36:50] * codestr0m makes noise[06:37:34] <DesiJat> ddosia: could it be this - http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=89933[06:37:48] <DesiJat> "The workaround I found was deleting all virtual devices via[06:37:48] <DesiJat> 'delete-vnic' and 'delete-etherstub', which worked fine, and[06:37:49] <DesiJat> re-creating them again."[06:40:18] <ddosia> DesiJat: i do the same thing, but will it repeat again?[06:40:53] *** CyberBlue has joined #opensolaris[06:45:41] <DesiJat> ddosia: probably..u may want to add notes to that bug[06:45:42] <DesiJat> CR 6798106[06:45:47] <DesiJat> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6798106[06:45:57] *** s1gn4lb0y has quit IRC[06:46:29] *** e-jat has quit IRC[06:49:16] <DesiJat> anyone here know if I can have a Global zone with public facing IP, and a zone with an internal only IP....but somehow route requests to the internal zone via the domain name?[06:49:29] <DesiJat> i.e., global zone = global.domain.com[06:49:32] <DesiJat> zone = zone.domain.com[06:49:37] <brett_> DesiJat: no[06:49:40] <DesiJat> zone.domain.com has an internal IP only[06:50:19] <DesiJat> i wanna be able to ssh zone.domain.com, have the DNS route to global.domain.com, and have global.domain.com forward the IP traffic to zone.domain.com internally[06:50:51] *** e-jat has joined #opensolaris[06:50:53] <ddosia> you should use NAT on global zone[06:51:06] <brett_> nat won't do what he wants[06:51:08] <DesiJat> brett: not doable?[06:51:13] <brett_> not with tcp/ip ;)[06:51:15] *** luc^ has quit IRC[06:51:18] <DesiJat> even with crossbow ?[06:52:14] <brett_> nope....there's no way to do that at all[06:52:17] <brett_> but[06:52:21] <brett_> there's a simple answer[06:52:32] <DesiJat> "get another IP" :)[06:52:37] <brett_> ;)[06:52:46] <DesiJat> actually..hmm...that could work[06:52:52] <brett_> or you can use something that's protocol aware to split traffic[06:52:52] <DesiJat> i'm using an Amazon EC2 instance[06:53:07] <DesiJat> i wonder, i COULD create a zone within the EC2 opensolaris instance[06:53:10] <brett_> thinking elastic ip?[06:53:20] <brett_> i tried doing that when they first came out[06:53:40] <brett_> but with the way they worked at the time, it wouldn't work[06:53:52] <brett_> dunno if things have changed[06:54:00] <DesiJat> and assign it a new IP from amazon[06:54:17] <brett_> you can always frontend ssh with something that does that for you, much like a webserver can[06:54:26] <DesiJat> what didnt work? the Zone creation? interface creation?[06:54:39] <brett_> well[06:55:14] <brett_> with an elastic ip, the traffic still arrives on the global zone's interface rewritten for whatever that instances ip is, not the elastic ip[06:55:24] <brett_> or that's what it did when i tried it, anyways[06:55:32] <DesiJat> hrrrm....[06:55:39] <brett_> always possible things have changed ;)[06:55:58] <DesiJat> you're right[06:56:03] <DesiJat> i c what you're saying, it wont work[06:56:16] <DesiJat> EC2 instances use an internally assigned IP, as far as the instance knows[06:56:18] <DesiJat> 10.x[06:56:31] <brett_> you can make the crossbow scenario work if you can live with ssh not being on 22[06:56:49] <brett_> 22 for the global, 2200 for zone1, 2202 for zone2, etc[06:56:58] *** dynamicproxy has joined #opensolaris[06:57:08] <brett_> and then as ddosia suggested, use ipfilter[06:58:23] <DesiJat> hmm[06:58:24] <DesiJat> i c[06:59:12] <DesiJat> not worth it[06:59:24] *** asarch has quit IRC[07:00:15] <ddosia> one more suggestion... but a little ugly[07:00:22] <DesiJat> heh[07:00:27] <DesiJat> (it gets uglier?!?!)[07:00:29] *** stevel has quit IRC[07:00:34] <ddosia> you can create same users on global zone[07:00:41] <ddosia> as in zones[07:01:19] <DesiJat> eh?[07:01:19] <ddosia> and when user ssh to global zone in .bashrc you can put "ssh username@zone1"[07:01:24] <DesiJat> ahh[07:01:25] <DesiJat> i c[07:01:26] <DesiJat> heh[07:01:33] <DesiJat> interesting tho![07:01:52] <ddosia> but you must trust those users[07:02:08] <DesiJat> since i trust them, i'll leave them sitting on the global zone[07:02:40] <ddosia> and configure ssh to this hosts without password[07:03:06] <brett_> while zones are still useful for sandboxing things on ec2, i haven't found them to be as useful there as they are in other environments.[07:03:12] <ddosia> only one prompt password is requiered =)[07:03:13] <DesiJat> well, the ssh to the inside zone would be with keys[07:03:15] <DesiJat> per user[07:03:25] <DesiJat> so it wouldnt be a trust issue[07:03:41] <brett_> the other thing you can do[07:03:42] <ddosia> heh... it is your choice ;-)[07:03:48] <brett_> is change ssh's port in the global zone[07:03:56] <DesiJat> if they have global zone username/passwd, an ssh key would automatically let them into the zone[07:04:05] <DesiJat> brett: hmm...?[07:04:14] <brett_> and use a ssh gateway in the zone they ssh to[07:04:18] <DesiJat> oh, and make the inner zones ssh port as 22 :)[07:04:20] *** oxygen-addict has joined #opensolaris[07:04:21] <brett_> y[07:04:45] <brett_> on the presumption you're trying to optimize for security and ease-of-use[07:04:54] <brett_> changing the global's ssh port # is a good thing regardless[07:05:09] <brett_> then you can just use ipfilter to redir 22[07:05:21] <brett_> and you aren't compromising the global[07:05:52] <DesiJat> another issue though[07:06:09] <DesiJat> when i create the internal zone, i wont be able to give it an EC2 internal IP[07:06:15] <DesiJat> altho i could give it the elastic IP[07:06:19] <DesiJat> eh. not worth the hassle.[07:06:29] <brett_> doesn't even need a real ip[07:06:38] *** wizeman has quit IRC[07:06:40] <brett_> you can give it an exclusive vnic[07:06:41] *** fjay has quit IRC[07:06:42] <DesiJat> yeah, i c what u r saying[07:06:44] *** fjay has joined #opensolaris[07:06:47] *** wizeman has joined #opensolaris[07:06:54] <brett_> and create an etherstub for all the zones[07:06:55] <ddosia> create it vie etherstub[07:07:01] <brett_> yah[07:07:02] <ddosia> *via[07:07:07] <DesiJat> somewhat unrelated, the Solaris AMIs on EC2 are kinda retarded[07:07:21] <DesiJat> when u search for AMIs and type "solaris", the opensolaris AMIs *dont* show up[07:07:36] <DesiJat> and if u select from "OpenSolaris" drop down, they dont show up either[07:07:49] <DesiJat> they are listed as "osol" and under the Linux/Other category[07:07:58] <DesiJat> and...SXCE isnt even available, for whatever reason.[07:08:36] <DesiJat> i need to become more familiar with 'dladm' and vlnc stuff[07:08:37] <brett_> they haven't released new sxce ones since b78 or so[07:08:46] <brett_> b79, i guess[07:09:18] <DesiJat> they? ec2?[07:09:29] <Zikla> Instead of putting it in bashrc you could also write a short script and make that script their shell in the global zone[07:09:31] <ddosia> what difference between SXCE and opensolaris?[07:09:51] <brett_> they = sun[07:10:29] <ddosia> Zikla: doesn`t matter, becaz the user always can run something like: "ssh user@host /bin/bash"[07:10:38] <oninoshiko> you mean SXDE. SXCE is on 110.[07:10:47] <DesiJat> yeah, sxce is moving along fine...[07:10:58] <Zikla> Ah, I didn't know you could do that.[07:11:12] <brett_> sxce AMI's on ec2 are still b79[07:11:14] <Zikla> This is why I joined :P[07:11:23] <ddosia> =)[07:11:28] <brett_> last i checked, anyways ;)[07:11:45] <brett_> stale and abandoned in favor of opensolaris[07:11:48] <oninoshiko> and im suprised ec2 has it at all, considering that SXCE has a restrictive license[07:12:28] <ddosia> what is it "SXDE and SXCE" ?[07:12:49] <brett_> someone from sun should probably answer that ;)[07:12:50] <Zikla> Solaris Express {Developer,Community} Edition[07:12:58] <brett_> vs solaris 10 or opensolaris[07:13:01] <ddosia> but this is not opensolaris ?[07:13:04] <DesiJat> brett: i cant even find the b79 AMIs[07:13:12] <DesiJat> not that it matters, i wouldnt run a b79 based AMI[07:13:14] <oninoshiko> Solaris Express Developers Edition (discontenued) and Solaris Express Comminity Edition[07:13:16] <brett_> the opensolaris name was purloined and repurposed[07:13:23] <brett_> DesiJat: they may have pulled them[07:13:41] <DesiJat> wonder if it's because SXCE has a much larger disk footprint[07:13:47] <brett_> bedtime here....night gents[07:13:54] <DesiJat> 1 DVD vs 1 CD[07:13:55] <DesiJat> l8r[07:13:55] <Zikla> AFAIK SXCE is Solaris 10 with updates from OpenSolaris[07:13:57] <ddosia> brett_: SECE equals to opensolaris, right?[07:14:10] <DesiJat> SXCE is Solaris 11 :)[07:14:21] <ddosia> brrr[07:14:26] <DesiJat> Solaris 10 is ...Solaris 10 with updates from OpenSolaris![07:14:31] <DesiJat> 10u6, etc.[07:14:39] <DesiJat> opensolaris/sxce[07:14:47] <ddosia> ohh ic[07:14:51] <ddosia> * i see[07:14:55] <oninoshiko> Zikla: SXCE actually get the updates for a number of things before indiana[07:15:14] <Zikla> Well yeah, it's released more often, of course it will :P[07:16:03] <ddosia> where i can read about solaris topology ?[07:16:10] <DesiJat> now with IBM quite possibly buying Sun...I have to get back into Solaris :P[07:16:17] <DesiJat> topology meaning?[07:16:36] <oninoshiko> man filesystem ?[07:16:44] <ddosia> i mean hierarhy[07:17:03] <DesiJat> SXCE/opensolaris/solaris ?[07:17:04] <DesiJat> http://whacked.net/2005/06/21/confused-so-was-i/[07:17:05] <Zikla> ls -R / | less[07:17:08] <DesiJat> that's old tho[07:17:10] <Zikla> :P[07:17:22] <DesiJat> but it should be sufficient[07:17:36] *** oxygen-a1dict has quit IRC[07:17:40] <oninoshiko> DesiJat: it's still accurate. not much has changed in that regard[07:18:48] <eklof> Hi all. I have a bit of a strange problem. I have a ZFS NAS and share stuff with NFS and SMB. And when fiddling around with ipfilter I have set up a batch of rules and it works fine when applying it, for about 12-24 hours, then I can't ssh to the box or see my shares on the remote computers. I then have to cut the power and after that it works for a while again. If I disable the ipf service it works flawless all the time. Have I forgotten something i[07:19:20] <DesiJat> onin: u r correct. i just read it.[07:19:22] <DesiJat> (again)[07:21:07] <eklof> And another question, does the ssh-service in 2008.11 support chrooted SFTP ?[07:21:30] <oninoshiko> it should. the one in SXCE does[07:21:37] <oninoshiko> oops[07:21:49] <oninoshiko> sorry, i missed a word there[07:22:06] *** luc^ has joined #opensolaris[07:22:52] <eklof> Perhaps I should go with a user zone insted and export some choosen filesystem insted. Perhaps safer?[07:23:40] <DesiJat> safer, yeah[07:23:55] <DesiJat> less confusing to you in 3-6 months time when u come back to administer it all[07:24:30] *** sriramnrn has joined #opensolaris[07:25:23] <eklof> DesiJat: :)[07:27:12] *** samc has quit IRC[07:27:28] *** samc has joined #opensolaris[07:28:33] <eklof> How long has there been zones in solaris. It seems like a great tool.[07:28:59] <DesiJat> since solaris 10 intro[07:29:18] <eklof> Ok, and when in time was that? (solaris newbie)[07:29:22] <DesiJat> 2005 I believe[07:29:27] <DesiJat> if not 2004...[07:29:30] <DesiJat> checking..[07:30:10] <DesiJat> 1/31/05, says wikipedia...[07:30:18] <eklof> And has there been a successful attempt to "break" ot of a zone into the global zone or is that theoretically impossible?[07:30:36] <DesiJat> havent heard of it[07:30:46] <DesiJat> but, not something i've paid attention to either, i suppose[07:31:03] <eklof> I'm a kind of paranoid guy :)[07:31:09] <Zikla> There may be a way of doing it but if there is I don't think anybody's found it yet :P[07:31:30] <DesiJat> it'd have to be a kernel bug[07:31:49] <eklof> Or the people who know how to do it, keeps it a secret and have all zones hijacked in the world! :)[07:32:06] <eklof> </paranoid>[07:33:05] <oninoshiko> naa, we just comprimised the first compiler, it puts a backdoor in all code and adds the comprimise to future compilers[07:33:42] <ddosia> eklof: not only you[07:35:59] <ddosia> the greate mother of all compillers are belongs to us! on your kneese mortals! bugaga! :-D[07:37:27] <DesiJat> see.[07:37:30] <eklof> I need to do some more fancy stuff with my home server, too much idle cpu-time :)[07:37:31] <DesiJat> this is why i use gcc.[07:37:32] <DesiJat> hrmpf.[07:37:50] <DesiJat> no Sun Java ONE Studio Forte Developer Compiler for me[07:37:51] <oninoshiko> gcc was compiled with a compiler[07:37:59] <DesiJat> gcc bootstrap!!![07:38:10] <eklof> How did they compile the first compiler ?[07:38:24] <Zikla> In assembly :P[07:38:24] <codestr0m> eklof: a long time ago or on solaris?[07:38:43] <eklof> Like, the fist compiler ever för C for example.[07:39:00] <oninoshiko> eklof: it written in a differnt language[07:39:04] <eklof> Did they write it in assembler code?[07:39:07] <eklof> ah ok[07:39:24] <codestr0m> punchcards :P[07:39:32] <oninoshiko> at some point someone somewhere toggled the bits to make a his compiler[07:39:34] <DesiJat> 01101[07:40:27] <DesiJat> (actually, in truth, i always install Sun compilers)[07:40:49] <DesiJat> tho the naming scheme is something that makes me want to commit murder[07:41:01] <oninoshiko> why?[07:41:10] <lewellyn> he hates SUNW :([07:41:16] <oninoshiko> atleast you know who made the package[07:41:32] <eklof> what does SUNW mean?[07:41:36] <Zikla> Sun Workstations[07:41:48] <DesiJat> Sun Workshop --> Forte Developer --> Sun Studio --> Sun Java Studio --> SunONE Studio --> some crap or the other[07:41:54] *** dynamicproxy has quit IRC[07:41:55] <oninoshiko> it's Sun's stock symbol[07:41:57] <Zikla> SUNW used to be Sun's stock name[07:41:58] <oninoshiko> well was[07:41:58] <lewellyn> DesiJat: "CC"[07:42:00] <Zikla> Now it's JAVA[07:42:07] <eklof> and why are they prefixed on every package? I run solaris, and I see soma packages, shouldnt it be obvious the package are for sun solaris? :)[07:42:10] <DesiJat> there was a time, u could buy Sun compiler, the CD said 1 name, the Installer said another, and the docs said YET ANOTHER[07:42:22] <Zikla> Because you're only looking at the ones from Sun :P[07:42:23] <lewellyn> eklof: they're provided by sun, not made for their os[07:42:28] <oninoshiko> eklof: its not what its for but who its from[07:42:28] <eklof> Aha![07:42:30] <eklof> Good point.[07:42:37] <lewellyn> eklof: install third-party stuff and you'll see other capital letters[07:42:41] <DesiJat> and, dont get me started on the damn Sun Compiler CDs printed with "Sun Studio Complier"[07:42:41] * eklof slaps himself in the head.[07:42:45] <oninoshiko> so I have some packages with the prefix SFE[07:42:50] <DesiJat> they frickin even misspelled COMPILER as COMPLIER[07:42:53] <DesiJat> on the production CDs[07:42:58] <DesiJat> (see, murder)[07:43:07] <lewellyn> compilor[07:43:10] <Zikla> YOU WILL COMPLIE[07:43:20] <oninoshiko> which indicates it is from Spec Files Extra[07:43:29] <DesiJat> funny thing, the guy who caught the mistake, i SWEAR TO YOU, had only 1 eye[07:43:34] <DesiJat> i swear to you, true story[07:43:36] <Zikla> There's also CSW, which I think is blastwave[07:43:41] <oninoshiko> yep[07:43:41] <Zikla> I've got CSW packages[07:44:05] <DesiJat> a guy with 1 eye, and that eye was a goner practically, he wore this magnifying thing, and HE caught the CD misprint error[07:44:06] <eklof> I'll call my userzone lusers![07:44:07] <oninoshiko> im not a fan of them, but i think CSW is blastwave[07:44:15] <DesiJat> (Bruce Salem)[07:44:57] <Zikla> They have mplayer and gpg, I didn't see those elsewhere, so that's where I went :P[07:45:06] * DesiJat is done ranting about Sun Compiler lore[07:45:10] <oninoshiko> SFE has mplayer[07:46:00] <Zikla> Is it an IPS repo? I never looked into SFE but I've heard of it XP[07:46:14] *** sndcrb has joined #opensolaris[07:46:24] <oninoshiko> no[07:46:30] <oninoshiko> or atleast it wasnt[07:46:45] <Zikla> Does it work on Indiana, 'cause that's what I have installed right now[07:46:51] <ddosia> Zikla blastwave have only old (2007) soft[07:47:00] <Zikla> Their mplayer still works though :P[07:47:19] <oninoshiko> it's a set of spec files, which can be made into SysV packages.[07:47:28] <Zikla> I just got fed up with internal dataflow errors in Rhythmbox[07:47:35] *** wizeman_ has joined #opensolaris[07:47:37] *** wizeman has quit IRC[07:48:08] *** benr has quit IRC[07:48:14] <Zikla> From what I'm seeing of it, it looks like it's supposed to be used on SXCE[07:48:25] <Zikla> Am I wrong there? I hope I am :P[07:48:36] <oninoshiko> you can use them, but if you have an IPS repo you should probibly go ahead an use that. most of the stuff from SFE seems to be getting into some of the contrib repo[07:49:32] <oninoshiko> my complaint with CSW is that it is target at older systems, so you end up installing packages that you might already have. I doubt this is the case with the IPS repo[07:50:05] <Zikla> I'm not saying CSW is good, I'm saying I wanted a music player that didn't crash every 3 hours and they had one that was easy to get :P[07:50:28] <codestr0m> Zikla: a good solution is being worked on[07:51:04] *** sriramnrn has quit IRC[07:51:07] <eklof> root@nas:/zones# zoneadm -z lusers install[07:51:07] <eklof> Error: no zonepath dataset.[07:51:15] *** loke has joined #opensolaris[07:51:18] <oninoshiko> (I dont use IPS, so I cannot speak from experence there, though)[07:51:19] <eklof> I get that even though i set a path in zonecfg ?[07:52:06] <Zikla> If it's mentioning datasets it's probably more of a zfs issue than a zonecfg issue[07:52:18] <Zikla> Do zones have to be on separate zfs datasets?[07:52:33] <loke> Zikla: no[07:52:42] <Zikla> Ignore me then :P[07:52:54] <ddosia> eklof - please, show me zonecfg -z lusers info[07:52:58] <eklof> oh I have a /zones and an /export/zones[07:53:12] <eklof> and export thing is in its own filessytem[07:53:23] <eklof> meybe that's where I need to have it.[07:54:37] <eklof> yepp that worked fint.[07:54:38] <ddosia> you may create dataset rpool/zones with mountpoint /export/zones and than give it to your zone like: "set zonepath=/export/zones/lusers"[07:54:38] <eklof> fine[07:54:52] <eklof> Yes now it works. Installing.[07:54:57] <loke> I feel embarrased. I have lotsof Solaris experience, but getting Sol/E to install on this PC that has a vista partition already is proving incredibly hard.[07:55:22] <loke> Has anyone had problem with the partition tool in the solaris installer creating overlapping (and hence, non-functional) paritions?[07:55:30] <eklof> ddosia: that was already done it seems.[07:56:02] <oninoshiko> loke: sorry, I dont dual boot[07:56:07] <ddosia> eklof - does the installation process correctly starts?[07:56:23] <oninoshiko> machines are cheap enough that if i need another OS, ill just get another machine[07:56:29] <eklof> yes ips is doing its thing now[07:56:34] <loke> oninoshiko: I know. I was considering it[07:56:44] <eklof> oh now it's installed![07:56:50] <eklof> darn quick that was'[07:57:02] <loke> oninoshiko: it's more of a space issue. I already have two macs for my day-to-day stuff. This is my server. I only have vista on there to fly flight simulators once in a while[07:57:05] <oninoshiko> or use somthing like virtualbox[07:57:20] <eklof> loke: you actually have vista on the server?[07:57:28] <eklof> Let's delete that! :)[07:57:30] <loke> oninoshiko: that's force me to actually run Windows. That is not something I want to do :-)[07:57:45] <loke> eklof: I have a small partition with visa and my flight simulator. that's it[07:57:54] <eklof> You need to do a format c: ![07:57:59] <loke> the remaining 1.9 TB is used (or will be used) for Solaris[07:58:09] <ddosia> eklof: nope, he must do fdisk =)[07:58:24] <eklof> first format c:, oh man that was a long time since.[07:58:44] <eklof> Sending a bat-file with format c: /autotest was way fun back in the days.[07:58:44] <loke> Well, that's my problem... "format" on solaris hates me right now. Or at least hates this machine[07:58:50] <oninoshiko> loke: run windows in virtual box[07:59:04] <loke> If I create the solaris parition from a linux recovery CD, it works better, but I still have issues[07:59:22] <loke> oninoshiko: The flght sim gear has a lot of special drivers. Won't run virtualised[07:59:46] <eklof> rge0:1: flags=201000843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,MULTICAST,IPv4,CoS> mtu 1500 index 2 zone lusers inet 192.168.1.5 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255[07:59:57] <eklof> yaya, this zonestuff is some magic![08:00:08] <loke> eklof: zones are nice[08:00:18] <loke> eklof: what are you using them for?[08:00:22] *** luc^ has quit IRC[08:00:30] <eklof> I'm gonna jail my users[08:00:36] <ddosia> somebody knows, if i want to create a zfs dataset and give it to zone, it is possible to make a snapshots of this dataset from those zone?[08:00:56] <loke> ddosia: you want to snapshot from the zone itself, or the globl sozne?[08:01:12] <ddosia> loke: frome zone itself[08:01:35] <loke> ddosia: I'm not entirely sure if you can snapshoot the zone root from the zone itself[08:01:47] <loke> any sub-filesystems should snapshot just fine though[08:02:02] *** stux|RC has joined #opensolaris[08:02:03] <ddosia> loke: not zone root, but something like /export/home[08:02:29] <eklof> Which terminal should I choose if a administer the zone från ssh on a PC-keyboard?[08:02:35] <loke> ddosia: yeah, should work, if you have a zfs fs assigned to the zone[08:02:37] <eklof> 3/ PC Console?[08:02:51] <ddosia> i choose 12, x-term emulator those[08:03:01] <loke> eklof: aything. just make sure your TERM environment variable is correctly set[08:03:42] <eklof> ah it's xterm by default, so I choose that :=)[08:03:49] <ddosia> loke: don`t you know, it is possible to add dataset to installed zone?[08:04:04] <loke> ddosia: Yes, I know that[08:04:23] <loke> But I have to admit, I've done it exactly one, and it's over a year ago[08:04:26] <sndcrb> and anyway if there is no absolute requirement for no connection between zone and global, maybe some ssh to global and something to trigger that snapshot?[08:04:26] <loke> my memory is short :-)[08:04:40] <ddosia> and how? "add dataset"?[08:04:46] *** Topdeck_ has joined #opensolaris[08:05:18] <ddosia> sndcrb: what do you mean?[08:05:30] <eklof> Will I need Kerberos security in the zone, and what does that mean?[08:05:32] <loke> ddosia: you can do it from zonecfg if I remember correcntly[08:05:40] <eklof> havent used it before i think[08:05:46] <ddosia> loke: ok, i`ll try[08:06:20] <ddosia> i want to give an opportunity to zone`s admin to make a snapshot of dataset[08:07:56] <sndcrb> actually if u can do some scripting its not big thing to make a script that will trigger that snapshotting based on for example "flag" file somewhere in zone[08:09:40] *** s1gn4lb0y has joined #opensolaris[08:10:40] <ddosia> sndcrb: i want to give this job to those person, who will be responsible for this zone[08:13:11] *** Topdeck has quit IRC[08:13:12] <Zikla> You could use ssh and give the global zone account for that local zone only the privilege necessary to do things like snapshotting[08:13:25] <eklof> Hrm,[08:13:26] <eklof> root@nas-lusers:/home# mkdir guest[08:13:26] <eklof> mkdir: Failed to make directory "guest"; Operation not applicable[08:13:27] <Zikla> I like sndcrb's idea though[08:16:09] <sndcrb> global root can access those zones disks and thats why it should be possible to write a script that for example scans ones per minute lets say for example /tmp for file called SNAPSHOTME and based on that makes a snapshot of that zones dataset[08:16:32] <eklof> oh, home is read only in the zone?[08:16:34] <eklof> Why is that[08:16:52] <ddosia> eklof: i think that in solaris it should be: "mkdir -p /export/home/guest"[08:16:58] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju[08:17:16] <ddosia> eklof: not only for zone, but for global too[08:17:23] <ddosia> i don`t know why :([08:17:56] *** stux|RC-only has quit IRC[08:18:23] <eklof> ddosia: in the zone I have no /export[08:18:27] <eklof> only /home[08:18:35] <ddosia> yes, you should create it =)[08:18:54] <eklof> Why not use /home for the zone-users ?[08:18:59] <ddosia> donno[08:19:08] <eklof> ok will create an export/home then :)[08:19:11] <ddosia> i intrested in this question too[08:19:31] <ddosia> eklof: do you have rooted or sparsed model of thone?[08:19:33] <ddosia> *zone[08:19:45] <eklof> dunnu :)[08:20:01] <ddosia> did you "add inherit-pkg-dir"?[08:20:09] <eklof> nope[08:20:17] <eklof> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/faq/#sa_create'[08:20:19] <eklof> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/faq/#sa_create[08:20:21] <eklof> used that[08:20:33] <ddosia> hmm, can you try in zone if it have soft wich have global zone[08:20:42] <ddosia> ?[08:20:53] <eklof> Don't know what you mean by that[08:21:05] <ddosia> i try to resay =)[08:21:29] <ddosia> eklof: run in zone "which less"[08:21:37] *** eryc has quit IRC[08:21:47] <eklof> just need to install nano first, i'm no vi/vim fan[08:22:11] <eklof> no less in /usr/gnu/bin /usr/bin /usr/X11/bin /usr/sbin /sbin[08:22:11] <ddosia> is nano present in your global zone?[08:22:14] *** eryc has joined #opensolaris[08:22:18] <eklof> ddosia: yes[08:22:31] <ddosia> eklof: than you have full rooted model of zone[08:22:42] <eklof> Ok and what does that mean?[08:22:54] <eklof> Programs are isolated in the zone?[08:23:16] <ddosia> during configuration time you was able to add inherit-pkg-dir like "/usr", "/opt" and others[08:23:26] <eklof> I see.[08:23:30] <ddosia> to share your programs with gloal zone[08:23:36] <Zikla> It means your zone isn't sharing anything in / with your global[08:23:40] <eklof> Aha! I understand.[08:24:02] <eklof> That should be what I want acually. As secure and isolated as possible :)[08:24:13] <ddosia> and if you update your global zone via pkg update-image i think in zone will be old soft[08:24:22] <eklof> Oh that's no good :)[08:24:28] <Zikla> You could also run OpenBSD in a headless virtualbox :P[08:24:42] <Zikla> Zones just seem easier though :P[08:24:48] <eklof> I want the zone to be updated along with the global[08:24:56] <ddosia> eklof: i am not sure about my last post, correct me plz if you know[08:25:06] <eklof> I have no idea[08:25:26] <eklof> Have been using solaris for 2 month only.[08:25:33] <eklof> So much I have no clue abput.[08:25:47] <ddosia> eklof: can you show me how do you install "nano", coz i too don`t like vim[08:26:07] <ddosia> eklof: i use solaris two weeks only :-)[08:26:18] <eklof> Oh, so I lead over you![08:26:35] <Zikla> I've been using it for a few months but not doing much with it except for the past couple months :P[08:27:14] <ddosia> eklof: and one more thing, will you have some zones or only one?[08:27:26] <eklof> Will add a few more I think.[08:27:48] <eklof> Don't want my users to log in to my global zone.-[08:27:58] <eklof> and fiddle with my stuff[08:28:24] <ddosia> there is a strange dependency from internet - it always download 70mb from it when you install a new zone, so i created a template zone and than always clone it[08:28:33] <ddosia> and i don`t know, does it correct[08:28:41] <eklof> Yes I guess it fetch the zone from the net.[08:28:59] <eklof> Think that's a good idea since it probably updates with security patches and stuff?[08:29:07] <ddosia> yes[08:29:11] <eklof> correct me if i'm wrong[08:29:12] <sndcrb> I think that there is no difference between sparse and whole root security, its rather flexibility and compatibility issue[08:29:56] <ddosia> sndcrb: do you know, if i install application in sparsed zone ,will it appears in global zone too?[08:29:59] *** bengtf has quit IRC[08:30:05] <Zikla> Yes[08:30:11] <Zikla> It should[08:30:15] <eklof> i added some repo for nano.[08:30:25] <ddosia> eklof: what repo?[08:30:28] <eklof> can´t remember actually, it was 2 month ago.[08:30:37] <eklof> I have short memory[08:30:44] <ddosia> eklof: run "pkg authority"[08:31:03] <eklof> Hrm, only one repo there now, strange.[08:31:24] <ddosia> eklof: did you do this thing in zone or in global?[08:31:32] <Zikla> sparse root zones share /usr, not sure if they share /opt[08:31:35] <eklof> oh that was my zone :)[08:31:42] <Zikla> They have their own /etc and such[08:31:47] *** s1gn4lb0y has quit IRC[08:31:53] <eklof> root@nas:~# pkg authority[08:31:53] <eklof> AUTHORITY URL[08:31:53] <eklof> Contrib http://pkg.opensolaris.org/contrib/[08:31:53] <eklof> opensolaris.org (preferred) http://pkg.opensolaris.org/release/[08:31:53] <eklof> Pending http://pkg.opensolaris.org/pending/[08:31:54] <ddosia> Zikla: sparse zone share whateve you like =)[08:31:58] <sndcrb> ddosia: do u mean if u install stuff to global?[08:31:58] <eklof> There you go[08:32:04] <eklof> The pending repo contains nano[08:32:15] <Zikla> the FAQ I'm looking at says otherwise :P[08:32:36] <Zikla> Q: Can I create a zone which shares ("inherits") some, but not all of /usr, /lib, /platform, /sbin?[08:32:36] <Zikla> The original design of Solaris Containers assumes that those four directories are either all shared ("inherited") or all not shared. Sharing some and not others will lead to undefined and/or unpredictable behavior.[08:32:50] <ddosia> sndcrb: i mean that i run "pkg install pkgname" in sparsed zone, and that i`ll chek this app in global zone[08:33:51] <ddosia> eklof: i have as main authority development version: dev (preferred) http://pkg.opensolaris.org/dev/[08:34:17] <eklof> just add pending and install nano with pkg install nano[08:34:29] <Zikla> pkg install nano doesn't find anything :P[08:34:35] <Zikla> I tried earlier[08:34:36] <eklof> have you added the repo ?[08:34:40] <Zikla> Which one?[08:34:44] <sndcrb> do u mean something like if u install something on local zone should it be visible for global zone?[08:34:46] <Zikla> I haven't added contrib and pending[08:34:47] <eklof> pkg -set-authority[08:34:55] <eklof> Zikla: nano is in pending repo[08:35:01] <Zikla> That'd be why[08:35:02] <ddosia> sndcrb yes[08:35:35] *** nachox has quit IRC[08:36:29] <ddosia> how can i listt all software from some repo, e.g. list pending or list contrib ?[08:37:05] <eklof> pkg set-authority -O http://pkg.opensolaris.org/pendin[08:37:05] <eklof> g/ Pending[08:37:05] <eklof> root@nas-lusers:/export# pkg install nano[08:37:13] <eklof> that should do the trick[08:37:30] <eklof> there I go, nano in the zone,[08:37:38] <eklof> Now I can actually do something :)[08:37:47] <Zikla> Vi isn't that hard :P[08:37:54] <e^ipi> you could just learn a standard text editor like vi[08:38:00] <eklof> Vi is not my friend.[08:38:07] <Zikla> Then make a friend of it[08:38:10] <eklof> e^ipi: have tried, and I hate it! :([08:38:11] <ddosia> Zikla: i know, but it actually differ from those, which i use in linux[08:38:12] <e^ipi> nano is like training wheels...[08:38:21] <e^ipi> or helmets for walking[08:38:21] <ddosia> it more harder than those[08:38:29] <eklof> e^ipi: it sure is, but it's way more logical I think.[08:38:36] <eklof> nano that is.[08:38:42] <Zikla> nano is like using old DOS EDIT[08:38:55] <eklof> No matter what you old-time-unixer say :)[08:39:15] <e^ipi> it's more a matter of being able to use any given UNIX machine[08:39:20] <ddosia> how can i know, which repo provide me a package?[08:39:23] <e^ipi> nano won't be there most likely... vi will[08:39:35] <e^ipi> by definition some form of vi will be there[08:39:38] <eklof> e^ipi: that you have absolutely right.[08:39:55] <ddosia> i run "pkg search -lr nano", and have a result, but donno from what repo is it... from contrib or from pending[08:39:58] <e^ipi> also, does nano have regex's ?[08:40:17] <e^ipi> i'm pretty sure it doesn't, as it is quite primitive[08:40:23] <sndcrb> ddosia: as far as i understand zones security model global can usually see all things that are inside local but not other way around[08:40:35] <eklof> ddosia: pkg list|grep nano[08:40:38] <eklof> once installed.[08:40:39] <Zikla> http://xkcd.com/378/[08:40:43] <eklof> Then you see which repo[08:40:56] <eklof> But you want to list them directly from the repo?[08:41:03] <ddosia> yes[08:41:03] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[08:41:34] <eklof> ddosia: pkg search -s http://pkg.opensolaris.org/pending/ nano[08:41:47] <eklof> You will need to specify the search server.[08:42:03] <Zikla> Oh yeah, there it is[08:42:06] <Zikla> I see nano now[08:42:11] <ddosia> e^ipi: yes it is qite primitive as notepad, but it is ideal for purposes of editing text and not for reading manual all night long like in vim case[08:42:35] <e^ipi> i didn't read a manual[08:42:38] <e^ipi> i had a coffee mug[08:42:46] <Zikla> Why not use man to read manual pages?[08:42:56] <e^ipi> yum yum: http://www.cafepress.com/geekcheat.11507711[08:43:15] <eklof> e^ipi: regex, that's like the wizard of OZ, I don't fiddle with Regex on a regular basis, although if you are acoustomed to regex I imagine you want that in your editor.[08:43:22] <Zikla> Nice mug[08:43:52] <Zikla> Like all things Unix, once you learn how to use it, you'll discover all these things you can do with it[08:44:20] <eklof> I know the basics of regex and know it's powerful, but it's still hard for me.[08:44:35] <e^ipi> eklof: it's quite necessary... if i need to change a single word or phrase or version number in a document i can do the nano way... go through the whole thing like an idiot, or i can do the vi way... %s/word/newword/g[08:44:39] <sndcrb> I hate vi but I have to use it all a time because some systems don't have emacs <3, and changing default editor hasn't always been totally 100% with some tools[08:45:09] <eklof> e^ipi: or, you can search the string and then replece it :)[08:45:26] <e^ipi> eklof: that's what that regex does[08:45:38] <eklof> yes but nano have a way for searching as well.[08:45:47] <sndcrb> what i have learned from vi is that u always have to press esc anyway and remember too press i :D[08:45:51] <eklof> ctrl-w, typr your search string.[08:46:09] <e^ipi> you can also replace every line that begins with some token and ends with some other token, with only a certain set of tokens between them[08:46:36] <eklof> i know, regex, more powerful - check! But nano is simple and fill 99% of my daily work-stuff :)[08:46:39] <ddosia> it is a holly war =)[08:46:55] <eklof> And, I know nano already coming from Linux rather than from unix.[08:47:08] <Zikla> For me the only question is "Do I want a tool that limits me or do I want to limit the tool?" :P[08:47:11] <eklof> But yes, I should learn vi.[08:47:11] <e^ipi> linux is cute...[08:47:19] <eklof> e^ipi: :)[08:47:24] <Zikla> I always had vi in LInux[08:47:47] <eklof> e^ipi: opensolaris have a few edges over linux, that's why I fiddle with it on my nas.[08:47:52] <eklof> :)[08:47:57] <e^ipi> it's like a little girl dressed up in her mommy's pretty dress, clogging around the house in high-heels 8 sizes too big for her, lipstick all over the face[08:48:04] <eklof> Haha![08:48:05] <e^ipi> "when i grow up i want to be a real UNIX mommy!"[08:48:36] <eklof> God you must hate Opensolaris over Solaris then.[08:48:37] <ddosia> e^ipi: i do not think that is a correct[08:48:54] <eklof> As ian brings some linux-package-management to Solaris :)[08:49:03] <eklof> IPS is familiar coming from Debian.[08:49:19] <Zikla> RPMs were originally based on solaris packaging :P[08:49:28] <e^ipi> ddosia: good for you[08:49:41] <ddosia> e^ipi: yes, it is[08:49:45] <e^ipi> eklof: ian didn't do that, comay & swalker and others did[08:50:03] <ddosia> but opensolaris is more intresting with all this features and good docs[08:50:45] <eklof> e^ipi: Ok thought he did. My mistake.[08:50:54] <e^ipi> nope[08:50:57] <eklof> So the IPS was developed before Ian?[08:51:07] <e^ipi> ISTR it was under way[08:51:21] <e^ipi> oh, i'm retarded, sch as well[08:51:31] <e^ipi> dunno how i managed to leave him out of that list[08:51:48] <eklof> Is Ian still around the Opensolaris btw?[08:52:10] <eklof> I've seen him blogging around the "Internet operating system" lately :=)[08:52:11] <Zikla> I think he's working on cloud computing stuff now[08:52:15] <eklof> What ever that is :)[08:52:46] <eklof> Oh that "Cloud" thing again. Wth is that ? :)[08:53:02] <eklof> Clouds are in the sky and are often white or grey :)[08:53:10] <e^ipi> no, ian's something about technical marketing or something[08:53:15] <eklof> e^ipi: ok[08:53:24] <e^ipi> i dunno what his job title is but he's not in the solaris org any more as far as i can tell[08:53:33] <eklof> He is my hero anyway :)[08:53:39] <sndcrb> actually tools in solaris are nowaday way more user friendly than they were lets say on 2.6 or even on 8, simple things like -h are like little miracle after been forced to use mouse cursor to count how many digits u have in some number :D[08:54:00] <eklof> SMF is a thing of beuty I feel.[08:54:05] <eklof> +a[08:54:10] <e^ipi> eklof: which he wasn't responsible for either[08:54:20] <e^ipi> i actually think it was sch that was responsible for that too[08:54:29] <eklof> Oh no, I'm not insinuating that belieave me :)[08:54:45] <eklof> Just a note on some solaris-thing I like.[08:54:51] <ddosia> yes, SMF is a big step[08:54:53] <eklof> Being a beginner and all.[08:55:11] <ingenthr> e^ipi: ian is in the cloud computing group, yes[08:55:24] <e^ipi> yeah, something like that[08:58:33] <ingenthr> though all of our announcements in that area were obscured by rumors last week :)[08:59:14] *** mdh has joined #opensolaris[09:01:57] *** loke has quit IRC[09:02:32] <oninoshiko> ed is the standard text editor[09:02:53] <oninoshiko> (it says so right in the man page)[09:03:00] <sndcrb> oninoshiko: yes and we all have printer terminals!! :D[09:03:03] <Zaba_> so's ex/vi, actually[09:03:04] <Zaba_> says posix[09:03:32] *** e-jat has quit IRC[09:03:56] <e^ipi> ingenthr: i can't wait until those rumors just die[09:04:55] <oninoshiko> dont worry, im sure elReg will find some other rumer about SMI[09:18:06] *** niq has joined #opensolaris[09:22:26] *** kate21de has joined #opensolaris[09:25:01] <eklof> How do I escape from a zlogin -C zone ?[09:25:10] <elektronkind> there is no escape![09:25:16] <eklof> ctrl-c doen't get me back to global.[09:25:33] <eklof> there should be an escape! :)[09:27:45] *** luc^ has joined #opensolaris[09:27:57] <e^ipi> ~ ?[09:28:05] <e^ipi> or, ~.[09:28:28] <eklof> Any tools for encoding/decoding video on Opensolaris (console-program)[09:28:51] <e^ipi> mencoder, but you need to build it first[09:28:53] <eklof> that could be a neat thing to burn some cpu-time.[09:32:51] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU[09:34:23] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju[09:40:37] *** digifor has joined #opensolaris[09:44:02] <Zikla> Has anyone here had a bug where trying to use a jpeg for Compiz' wallpaper plugin turns blue?[09:44:19] <Zikla> png's work fine[09:44:41] <ddosia> nope[09:45:26] <Zikla> Have you tried? 'Cause I can't find anyone else with this issue, I don't see it mentioned anywhere...[09:45:37] <Zikla> Google turns up nothing relevant[09:46:08] <ddosia> in my 109 build comiz doesn`t work[09:47:03] <e^ipi> that's a feature.[09:47:32] <Zikla> I updated my 08.11 recently and compiz didn't work afterward[09:47:39] <e^ipi> again... that's a feature[09:47:57] <Zikla> I fixed it though, added a "then" to /usr/bin/compiz around line 18 or something[09:48:04] <Zikla> I happen to like compiz[09:48:29] <Zikla> Cube's a bit much but it's a nice WM[09:48:44] <e^ipi> one of those guilty pleasures ... i grok it, i have food preferences that i won't readily admit to[09:50:53] *** felixdz_ has joined #OpenSolaris[09:51:04] *** digifor has quit IRC[09:51:13] <Zikla> http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/6215/screenshot5d.png[09:51:17] *** felixdz_ has quit IRC[09:52:08] *** digifor has joined #OpenSolaris[09:52:22] <ewdafa-> that a quake logo?[09:52:46] <e^ipi> doesn't look much like a quake logo[09:52:56] <ewdafa-> sure it does[09:53:29] <ewdafa-> just very stylized[09:53:57] <e^ipi> well... quake logo is just a stylized "Q"[09:53:59] <Zikla> I dunno what it is[09:54:01] <e^ipi> so it's just a Q[09:54:06] <Zikla> It's just some fractal as far as I know[09:54:12] <ewdafa-> http://www.symbian-freeware.com/img2/quake-s60.jpg[09:54:14] <Zikla> I picked it up off an art site some million years or so ago[09:54:20] <digifor> Why would ath0 add to the system but fail to attach?[09:54:47] <e^ipi> digifor: you're going to have to define what you mean by 'add' and 'attach'[09:55:40] <digifor> add_drv -i "'pci168c,1c'" ath[09:55:59] <e^ipi> have you plumbed the interface?[09:56:05] <e^ipi> ( part of ifconfig )[09:56:22] *** farsan has quit IRC[09:56:37] *** farsan has joined #opensolaris[09:56:56] <digifor> I am following this: http://www.timelordz.com/wiki/index.php/OpenSolaris_Indiana_2008.11_Acer_Aspire_One_Install[09:57:12] <e^ipi> why do people always follow howtos ?[09:57:15] <e^ipi> howtos never work[09:57:20] <e^ipi> /never[09:57:30] <digifor> DLPI Link does not exist[09:58:17] <ddosia> e^ipi: and what is your way?[09:58:49] <e^ipi> reading some documentation's always a nice way to go about it[09:58:57] <digifor> I have had a lot of how to's work. 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Thanks to a hackint0sh disk, I now have GPT)[12:50:18] * lewellyn doesn't know the answer, nor does he care about the answer, any more than yesterday[12:51:40] <gretel> ;)[12:51:52] <gretel> cheers (red bull cola)[12:52:15] <gretel> i should get some work done today[12:52:28] <lewellyn> we all should...[12:52:34] <lewellyn> but whether we do is another story ;)[12:52:37] <gretel> but i feel so much more interested in playing with opensolaris[12:55:23] *** ggeecko has quit IRC[12:56:58] *** loke_ has joined #opensolaris[12:59:24] *** digifor has quit IRC[13:00:08] *** javatexan has quit IRC[13:03:46] *** Yamazaki-kun has joined #opensolaris[13:06:42] *** dsch04 has quit IRC[13:08:24] *** dsch04 has joined #opensolaris[13:13:42] <CosmicDJ> Psuedo: that was a no[13:15:32] *** ken-zZz is now known as ken-h[13:18:05] *** mroconno1 has joined #opensolaris[13:18:30] *** mroconno1 is now known as mroconnor_[13:21:07] <wereHamster> 'cc: acomp failed for file.c' - is there a way to get cc print some more informations? Like what exactly failed?[13:21:18] *** ken-h has quit IRC[13:22:21] *** mroconnor_ has quit IRC[13:22:34] *** houst0n_ has quit IRC[13:24:58] *** ken has joined #opensolaris[13:25:09] *** ken is now known as ken-h[13:27:31] *** stewart has quit IRC[13:29:08] <eklof> How do I share one filesystem from global zone to a zone?[13:29:24] <CosmicDJ> wereHamster: no warnings/errors before that?[13:29:49] <CosmicDJ> eklof: you lofi mount it via zonecfg IIRC[13:30:05] <wereHamster> CosmicDJ: nope, nothing at all[13:31:03] <CosmicDJ> wereHamster: so you're doing a cc file.c and then this warning pops up?[13:33:25] <eklof> CosmicDJ: found another way, adding a dataset. Will try that.[13:33:54] <CosmicDJ> eklof: as long as you don't try to nfs mount it... ;)[13:34:15] <eklof> from inside the zone?[13:34:37] <CosmicDJ> yep[13:34:51] <eklof> ok, no need for that.[13:36:04] <eklof> why do I always spell quota, qouta ?[13:36:05] <eklof> :([13:36:11] *** ken has joined #opensolaris[13:37:56] <eklof> zfs <3[13:39:54] *** yf2228 has quit IRC[13:40:35] *** communicator has joined #opensolaris[13:41:22] *** communicator has joined #opensolaris[13:46:27] *** ken-h has quit IRC[13:46:44] *** tombhadAC has joined #opensolaris[13:50:17] *** jiiho has joined #opensolaris[13:56:38] *** e-jat has quit IRC[13:58:15] *** cemerick has joined #opensolaris[13:59:00] *** nitrile has joined #opensolaris[14:02:09] <wereHamster> CosmicDJ: http://pastie.org/423407[14:03:46] *** Rocket2DMn has joined #opensolaris[14:09:06] *** _setuid_H has joined #opensolaris[14:11:46] *** jiiho has quit IRC[14:12:20] *** CyberBlue has joined #opensolaris[14:13:23] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[14:15:20] *** lesterc has quit IRC[14:17:26] *** KOHJU is now known as kohju[14:24:22] <CosmicDJ> wereHamster: redirect the whole build output somewhere and grep for errors/warnings[14:26:58] *** Rocket2DMn has quit IRC[14:27:33] *** Rocket2DMn has joined #opensolaris[14:27:46] *** SQlvpapir has joined #opensolaris[14:31:55] *** Odin- has quit IRC[14:33:53] *** hsp is now known as hsp_away[14:33:57] *** tuffgong has joined #OpenSolaris[14:34:08] <tuffgong> hey[14:34:23] <tuffgong> can anyone help me... i cant find the xorg config file in Solaris[14:34:32] <tuffgong> i want to add display modes... ??[14:34:49] <xRaich[o]2x> new xorg doesn't need it anymore[14:34:55] <xRaich[o]2x> you have to create it yourself[14:35:02] <tuffgong> create it?[14:35:11] <tuffgong> how can i add a display mode then?[14:35:40] <xRaich[o]2x> you can autogenerate it with X -configure or so and then modify it yourself[14:36:16] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[14:36:17] *** javatexan has joined #opensolaris[14:37:00] *** Simgianni has joined #opensolaris[14:37:42] <Simgianni> list[14:37:46] <tuffgong> hmm[14:38:04] <tuffgong> i get an error saying X is running on display 0[14:38:09] *** jamesd has joined #opensolaris[14:38:09] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jamesd[14:38:13] <tuffgong> when i try X -configure[14:38:21] *** Simgianni has left #opensolaris[14:39:45] <tuffgong> xRaich[o]2x,[14:39:49] <tuffgong> im very new to this[14:40:03] <tuffgong> can you help me figure out how i can add a display mode?[14:40:38] <xRaich[o]2x> no, don't have time for that[14:40:43] <kimc> you must run the X configure from the graphic display[14:41:08] <kimc> without having X already running..[14:41:30] <tuffgong> kimc okay let me do that...[14:41:57] <tuffgong> xRaich[o]2x, thanks anyways[14:42:08] <tuffgong> kimc brb[14:42:08] <xRaich[o]2x> no problem[14:42:15] <eklof> e^ipi: doesn't work, can't find an escape från zlogin.. :/[14:42:43] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[14:42:53] <eklof> oh, some collision with ssh here I think[14:43:18] *** Fullmoon has quit IRC[14:44:05] <kimc> does ZFS allow installation on mirrored drives?[14:44:28] <eklof> I had to do that efterwards in 2008.11[14:45:11] *** ranksj has joined #opensolaris[14:45:19] <kimc> ok thats what the references i can find on the 'net say too..[14:45:33] <eklof> So perhaps that will be supported in 2009.06[14:46:00] <eklof> I think it should have been included in 2008.5 :)[14:46:10] <Stric> it's supported in sxce text mode install and in jumpstart installs at least[14:46:29] <Stric> but it's quite trivial to mirror afterwards anyway.. like 2 commands..[14:47:21] *** lblume has joined #opensolaris[14:47:26] <eklof> Yes it was easy.[14:47:42] <kimc> ok i'll install b110 in text mode ..when the computer parts store opens in an hour and i get a pair of drives[14:48:23] <kimc> if a drive fails do you need to change the boot disk in the bios for it to bootup[14:48:32] <eklof> Nope[14:48:38] <eklof> you copy the bootsector[14:48:44] <kimc> ahh thats good[14:48:45] <eklof> so both drive has the same[14:50:02] <Stric> eklof: if the first disk fails, your BIOS might very well stop the machine from booting[14:50:19] <eklof> Really. Worked fine on my system.[14:50:25] <kimc> there was a putback in b110 which was [i hope] the last thing preventing hardware-type boot failover[14:50:37] <Stric> eklof: It can work fine, but it's not guaranteed[14:50:40] <eklof> ok[14:50:48] <Stric> eklof: It's out of control from the OS.. if your BIOS doens'[14:50:59] <Stric> doesn't want to hand over to the next disk, then you're screwed[14:51:15] *** loke has quit IRC[14:51:33] <kimc> i guess you need to have the bios setup with the required device boot order[14:51:35] <Stric> (in the sense that you need manual intervention to boot from the other disk)[14:52:11] <Stric> kimc: Still, if it tries from the first disk and the boot block is corrupted or somesuch - then it won't boot.. so it's not 100% foolproof, but it may work most of the time[14:52:21] <kimc> 1) boot disk one 2) boot disk 2 3)cd etc[14:52:32] <kimc> so it can hang?[14:52:39] <Stric> s/then it won't boot/then it might not boot/[14:52:51] <kimc> got it ..might[14:53:03] <Stric> it can hang, yes.[14:53:44] <kimc> thats not the best arrangement[14:53:53] *** bengtf has joined #opensolaris[14:54:19] <Stric> that's probably the best you get with regular hardware[14:54:34] <kimc> maybe i should use a LSI card with hardware mirror then[14:55:05] <Stric> which afaik doesn't have the same correction abilities as ZFS do[14:55:15] <Stric> so then you can get screwed in other ways ;)[14:55:26] <kimc> ah yes pick your way :)[14:56:04] <Stric> for most, it's quite sufficient (zfs software mirror)[14:56:23] <tuffgong> i tried to login as root[14:56:27] <tuffgong> but its not allowing me to login says roles can only be used by authorised users[14:56:31] <tuffgong> when i login with my username its taking me to the gui from console[14:56:35] <tuffgong> why is this?[14:57:33] <kimc> do you have an 'options' button on the login gui?[14:58:04] <Tempt> So, PC people - 12 SATA bay rackmount case & motherboard/controllers - suggestions?[14:58:20] <kimc> if so you can choose 'CommandLine login'[15:02:27] *** javatexan has quit IRC[15:03:02] <kimc> for rackmount cases i like Supermicro.. in that size you might like: http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/3U/933/SC933T-R760.cfm[15:03:31] <eklof> Tempt: grab the NORCO case for sure, I love it![15:05:00] <eklof> http://tinyurl.com/chej44[15:05:19] <eklof> Maybe not an enterprice-case but it's sweet and cheap.[15:05:51] <eklof> And you get +8 bays as a bonus.[15:06:05] <Tempt> I'll take a look.[15:06:28] <kimc> those norco cases are less expensive than a Supermicro[15:08:04] <eklof> Not any room for dual PSU's though. Maybe if you get two of those small PSU's. But only one regular PSU fits.[15:08:09] <kimc> You canm get the RPC-4020 from Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219021[15:09:49] <kimc> i just installed a Supermicro 5-drive hotswap box in an existing rack case.. worked out fine[15:09:54] *** javatexan has joined #opensolaris[15:11:06] <kimc> does a ZFS mirror have provisions for notification if theres a drive failure?[15:11:12] <eklof> Nope.[15:11:25] <flyingparchment> yes, via FMA[15:11:36] <flyingparchment> but you can't do useful things like email notification.. i think it supports snmp traps[15:11:45] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[15:15:55] <kimc> hmm.. fmdump[15:17:31] <Tempt> Failure of a drive in a zpool will generate lots of log messages, an FMA event and all the usual drive failure noise.[15:17:48] <Tempt> Your usual system monitoring regimen will be able to alert on that.[15:17:50] *** bengtf has quit IRC[15:20:18] <kimc> yeh well i don't have much in the way of a usual monitoring regimen :)[15:20:26] <Tempt> Well, time to deploy one.[15:20:32] <kimc> right on[15:20:54] *** bengtf has joined #opensolaris[15:21:56] <kimc> even something as simple as an email indicating theres something in the log would be better than what i have now[15:24:27] *** lblume has quit IRC[15:25:31] *** cemerick has quit IRC[15:25:48] *** bengtf has quit IRC[15:27:01] *** LeftWing has quit IRC[15:27:11] *** bengtf has joined #opensolaris[15:28:59] <kimc> so based on the state of redundant ZFS root pools it seems a hardware controller would still be best overall[15:29:00] *** Chipdancer_ has joined #opensolaris[15:30:49] <eklof> kimc: that seems like a bios-bug that someone need to address. I mean with ZFS more and more people will probably want an all-software zraid-solution.[15:31:11] *** sartek_ has joined #opensolaris[15:31:53] <kimc> no dount[15:31:53] <eklof> Also, sata-controller manufactorers will need to make 8/12/16-port non-raid cards :)[15:31:57] <kimc> doubt[15:32:02] <Tempt> eklof: Looks like it might be worth a stab.[15:32:10] <eklof> But i guess they rather sell their 1000$ hardware cards.[15:32:47] <eklof> And well, I don't blame them for that.[15:33:17] <eklof> I will need to buy 5x 2-port sata-controller with sil 3132 to my nas :)[15:33:35] <Tempt> 4 port LSI controllers[15:33:38] *** CyberBlue has quit IRC[15:33:49] <eklof> Tempt: can't seem to find them here.[15:34:11] <Tempt> Look harder, they're common. SAS controller with SATA sockets - very good performance, but around $100/each.[15:34:19] <eklof> pci-e that is.[15:34:35] <eklof> Most are pci-x which is useless for uss desktop-motherboard-people :)[15:34:54] <eklof> and want affordable home-nas systems based on solaris and zfs.[15:35:01] *** jiiho has joined #opensolaris[15:35:14] <gretel> got a SiI3124 running[15:35:22] <Tempt> eklof: Similar project brewing here, you see.[15:35:24] <gretel> 4 port SATA PCI[15:35:27] <Tempt> eklof: Hence the search for a case.[15:35:43] <eklof> Ok I just built my nas based on the norco-case.[15:35:55] <gretel> i'd love to have a LSI or marvell controller, but the mini-itx board just has a single PCI slot[15:36:02] <eklof> running 6 disks on the ichr10 noe and looking for more ports.[15:37:03] <eklof> I think I'll go with 5x1-port sil-cards for about $200[15:37:06] <eklof> in total[15:37:07] *** Chipdancer has quit IRC[15:37:17] <eklof> that gives me 16 ports at least.[15:37:20] <Tempt> See how it goes. When are you picking them up?[15:37:37] <eklof> Not ordered yet, have some room left :)[15:37:41] <Tempt> heh[15:38:15] <gretel> http://www.chenbro.com/corporatesite/products_detail.php?serno=100[15:39:17] <Tempt> too small[15:39:31] *** bizkut has joined #opensolaris[15:39:39] <eklof> Now sun want's to obsolete my nice sata-ports for some open ssd standard :)[15:39:50] *** sartek has quit IRC[15:39:53] <eklof> I was looking forward to run some ssd's in my chassi as well in the future :)[15:42:10] *** datuffgong has joined #OpenSolaris[15:42:55] <kimc> you can get an LSI 8-port card which runs in JBOD mode, the SAS3081E-R for US ~$220[15:43:53] <kimc> The LSI has the reliable MPT driver[15:46:35] *** hsp_away is now known as hsp[15:46:41] <eklof> isn't that pci-x only kimc ?[15:47:02] <kimc> either pxi-x or pci-e versions[15:47:08] <eklof> Ohh...[15:47:15] * eklof googling.[15:48:21] <eklof> Nice tip kimc, found a reasonably prices retailer here.[15:48:24] <kimc> the pci-x version is the SAS3080X-R[15:48:31] <kimc> very good[15:48:39] <eklof> And this works on Opensolaris?[15:48:45] <eklof> and not just solaris 10[15:50:07] <datuffgong> hey can anyone tell me[15:50:15] <datuffgong> why i cant login as root in terminal[15:50:33] <datuffgong> it says only authorised users can take roles[15:51:09] <ranksj> in opensolaris, root is not a user but a role.[15:51:23] <eklof> datuffgong: use pfexec as you execute stuff as root.[15:51:48] <eklof> su - also works if you want a root-shell.[15:52:11] <eklof> I think it's a root-shell at least[15:52:18] *** tuffgong has quit IRC[15:52:24] *** callyma has quit IRC[15:52:55] *** jiiho has quit IRC[15:54:18] <eklof> kimc: is jbod what I want? isn't that something like raid0 over multiple disks?[15:54:38] <ranksj> jbod (just a bunch of disks)[15:54:39] <eklof> Or is that also reffered to as running the disks in non-raid mode as regular sata-ports.[15:54:52] <datuffgong> eklof, i want to login to terminal before loading X[15:55:03] <datuffgong> but i am unable to login to root[15:55:14] <eklof> yes that's a feature i think[15:55:18] <datuffgong> when i login with the normal username it takes me to gui[15:55:36] <eklof> so you have terminal login at first?[15:56:01] <datuffgong> eklof, i cant login to root but...[15:56:13] <datuffgong> when i login as my normal user it starts loading the gui[15:56:28] <eklof> Ok, so you don't use GDM ?[15:56:52] <eklof> Don't really understand.[15:57:01] <datuffgong> no i want to edit my x configuration man[15:57:13] <eklof> Do that from inside the gui.[15:57:21] <datuffgong> it doesnt work?[15:57:23] <ranksj> datuffgong, is there a reason you need a gui session running as root as opposed to using pfexec to run a program as root ?[15:57:25] <datuffgong> X -configure[15:58:00] <datuffgong> i cant run X -configure under the GUI....[15:58:11] <datuffgong> so i need to login as root? since there is no other way[15:58:32] <ranksj> datuffgong, this is not recommended, but you can remove type=role from root in /etc/user_attr; then I think you can login as root as it is no longer a role but a user[15:58:37] <eklof> why canät you log in as your user under the terminal then?[15:59:27] <datuffgong> eklof, when i login as my normal user... it automatically starts loading the gui[15:59:32] <datuffgong> X[15:59:56] <eklof> Yes, and X is broken for you and therefore you can't do whatever you need to do?[16:00:06] <eklof> Have I understood it correct?[16:01:52] *** jiiho has joined #opensolaris[16:02:00] <eklof> Why do you need to reconfigure X anyway?[16:02:08] <eklof> Have you some strange graphic card?[16:03:02] <datuffgong> no[16:03:24] <datuffgong> i am running Open Solaris in Virtual Box[16:03:39] <datuffgong> the graphic resolution is limited to 1028*769[16:03:42] <datuffgong> 768[16:03:52] <datuffgong> i need a higher resolution[16:04:37] <datuffgong> eklof, my X is working fine[16:04:49] <datuffgong> just this bloody resolution problem[16:04:52] <eklof> ok[16:04:58] <datuffgong> which is psyching me out[16:05:07] <psychicist> hi, can anyone tell me what's the difference between the regular 2008.11 iso and the global one and why the latter is smaller than the former?[16:05:07] <eklof> and that's the highest you have in the resolution manager?[16:05:09] <datuffgong> eklof, is there any way i can get a higher resolution[16:06:05] <datuffgong> eklof, yeah... do you have any idea how i can add another resolution besides X -configure[16:06:23] <datuffgong> i miss the xorg.conf file[16:06:25] <datuffgong> :([16:06:48] <eklof> yes, just log in, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the resolution.[16:06:58] <eklof> or is it not there?[16:07:05] <datuffgong> its not there man[16:07:08] <datuffgong> thats the problem[16:07:10] <codestr0m> datuffgong: you can generate one and put it /etc/X11/xorg.conf[16:07:24] <codestr0m> (I forget how to generate.. google should help)[16:07:24] <datuffgong> codestr0m, how to generate?[16:07:34] <datuffgong> X -configure?[16:07:56] <eklof> strange, I have a regular 2008.11 setup and I have a xorg.conf[16:08:28] <ranksj> OpenSolaris 2008.11 snv_101b_rc2 X86 and no xorg.conf[16:08:33] <datuffgong> im using 2008.11[16:08:44] <datuffgong> no xorg.conf file[16:08:58] <eklof> Very mystical. I have no memory fiddling with this when installing :([16:09:19] <datuffgong> hehe[16:09:55] <eklof> it says it has been generated using nvidia-xconfig in the header[16:10:11] *** neoxed has joined #OpenSolaris[16:11:14] *** neoxed_ has quit IRC[16:12:04] <datuffgong> there is no nvidia-xconfig in my system as im having a virtual graphic card.. i think[16:13:28] *** e-jat has joined #opensolaris[16:13:37] <datuffgong> :([16:13:54] <ranksj> xorgconfig is in the manpages to generage an xorg.conf[16:15:14] *** fdsdf has joined #opensolaris[16:16:40] *** chrol has joined #opensolaris[16:17:55] <ranksj> datuffgong: have you tried xorgconfig ?[16:19:57] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris[16:20:04] <fdsdf> I triedto install SXCE on my comp (asus p5ld motherboard, 512 mb ram, 28 gb hd) (wow) and when it almost installed successfuly, it said: "couldnt copy blabla from cdrom to .. blabla) wtf??[16:20:36] *** Maverick1618 has left #opensolaris[16:21:10] <ranksj> fdsdf: I don't know about SXCE, but opensolaris really wants 768M to install.[16:21:20] <datuffgong> ranksj,[16:21:22] <datuffgong> yeah thanks[16:21:24] <datuffgong> that did it[16:21:51] <datuffgong> now i just have to copy the xorg.conf to /etc/X11[16:21:52] <datuffgong> ?[16:21:54] <fdsdf> yea gui (or wtf doesnt work) ... but it should work heh .. it said it couldnt copy something from cdrom idk :S[16:22:05] <fdsdf> im trying to install sxce again[16:27:26] *** pjlv has quit IRC[16:31:21] *** jiiho has quit IRC[16:32:47] *** tosh has joined #opensolaris[16:33:57] *** DukeNuke2 has joined #opensolaris[16:34:10] *** ddosia has joined #opensolaris[16:38:13] *** jiiho has joined #opensolaris[16:43:15] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris[16:53:30] *** init3_ is now known as init3[16:55:18] *** javatexan has quit IRC[17:05:28] *** cwebber has joined #opensolaris[17:08:23] *** ranksj has quit IRC[17:08:42] *** ShanghaiScott has quit IRC[17:09:11] *** ShanghaiScott has joined #opensolaris[17:09:21] *** ShanghaiScott has quit IRC[17:14:06] *** ShanghaiScott has joined #opensolaris[17:20:25] *** ranks has joined #opensolaris[17:20:58] *** hsp has quit IRC[17:21:15] *** javatexan has joined #opensolaris[17:22:16] *** mlischke has joined #opensolaris[17:23:58] *** datuffgong has quit IRC[17:24:39] *** SQlvpapir_ has joined #opensolaris[17:26:28] *** ibseo has joined #opensolaris[17:34:54] *** LouisJB_ has quit IRC[17:35:12] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[17:36:05] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[17:37:16] *** LouisJB_ has joined #opensolaris[17:37:19] <fdsdf> omfg i installed sxce and it doesnt workkk after rebooting!!!! failed to get ramdisk from boot[17:37:21] <fdsdf> lmfao[17:39:28] <smtms> fdsdf, what's the exact message you see?[17:39:53] <fdsdf> uh its my coimp is in another room but ill try to memorize it and write here :D lol brb[17:40:26] <mlischke> hey there, has anyone managed to get iscsi working on osol?[17:40:46] <mlischke> I get the error iscsitgtd failed request to share[17:40:55] <mlischke> the service is online though[17:41:21] <DukeNuke2> iscsi worked for me...[17:41:32] <DukeNuke2> what have you done?[17:41:47] <mlischke> hmm, just used zpool to create a pool on an external disk[17:42:02] <mlischke> then zfs -s -V 100g external/iscsi/vol01[17:42:16] <mlischke> it says filesystem created but not shared[17:42:24] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[17:42:28] <mlischke> zfs create -s ...[17:42:41] *** cwebber has quit IRC[17:43:08] <DukeNuke2> you've to set iscsi share to "true"[17:43:13] <mlischke> I then also tried the same on my internal pool[17:43:22] <mlischke> I set this on the parent fs[17:43:24] <mlischke> iscsi[17:43:31] <mlischke> external/iscsi[17:43:43] <mlischke> isn't that inherited?[17:43:52] <DukeNuke2> yes, but you've created a volume...[17:43:54] *** cwebber has joined #opensolaris[17:43:59] <DukeNuke2> and this volume isn't shared[17:45:34] <fdsdf> http://pastebin.com/m2d55b892[17:45:36] <fdsdf> something like that[17:50:06] <mlischke> DukeNuke2: http://pasteall.org/4658[17:50:10] <mlischke> I don't get it[17:50:29] *** spiki has joined #opensolaris[17:50:42] <mlischke> shouldn't external1/iscsi be listed as target?[17:50:49] *** spiki has quit IRC[17:51:12] <Stric> you can't share a filesystem with iscsi.. you share a block device (zfs volume)[17:51:52] <mlischke> ok, got that, but isn't zfs create -V creating exactly that, a volume?[17:52:12] <Stric> yes, but the reason why external1/iscsi isn't shared..[17:52:19] <mlischke> ok[17:52:31] <fdsdf> smts, http://pastebin.com/m2d55b892[17:52:38] <Stric> try not setting iscsi sharing on that, and do it on the volume instead[17:52:47] <mlischke> yep, doing that now..[17:55:13] <mlischke> http://pasteall.org/4661[17:55:16] <mlischke> still not working[17:55:26] <mlischke> sharescsi is inherited[17:56:35] <Stric> try what I said instead (like you said you would)[17:57:02] <Stric> not shareiscsi on external1/iscsi, set shareiscsi on external1/iscsi/vol001[17:58:05] <mlischke> I removed sharescsi from external1/iscsi and tried to set it on vol001, same error[17:59:18] <Stric> ok. I'm just guessing on possible problems..[17:59:31] <mlischke> hmm, wait[17:59:47] <Stric> wait for what?[17:59:47] <mlischke> I recreated the volume with -s -V 25g and now don't have the error[18:00:09] <mlischke> this time the sharescsi flag wasn't set for the parent[18:00:34] <fdsdf> smts, http://pastebin.com/m2d55b892[18:01:27] <mlischke> but I get the error when I try to set shareiscsi on that volume :-([18:02:21] *** cwebber has quit IRC[18:04:40] *** jteo has quit IRC[18:04:52] <Stric> do you have vital data on it? if no, try just recreating it[18:05:09] *** ej|sleeping is now known as _ej_[18:05:15] <mlischke> no, no data on the volume, but I recreated it already several times[18:05:30] <mlischke> well, I could recreate the parent folder too, moment..[18:06:12] <kimc> replaced some disks and now the device numbering running 'format' show the new disks at device numbers beginning where the old disk device numbers stopped[18:06:16] <fdsdf> heeelp http://pastebin.com/m2d55b892[18:06:48] <kimc> how can i update the devices numbering[18:07:16] <DukeNuke2> pull the new disks[18:07:28] <DukeNuke2> run "devfsadm -Cv"[18:07:34] <DukeNuke2> plug the new disks[18:07:36] <kimc> ok thank you[18:07:42] <DukeNuke2> run "devfsadm -v"[18:07:50] <kimc> thank you[18:08:30] *** ranks has quit IRC[18:09:08] *** ddosia has quit IRC[18:09:12] <mlischke> Stric: http://pasteall.org/4664[18:09:19] <mshadle> isn't there a rescue/fix type option when you boot using a DVD? the normal install dvd, isnt there some repair/upgrade option?[18:09:25] <mlischke> I left out the iscsi filesystem now[18:10:13] *** estibi_ is now known as estibi[18:10:54] *** edgeoc has joined #opensolaris[18:11:08] *** ddosia has joined #opensolaris[18:11:11] *** ddosia has left #opensolaris[18:13:12] <edgeoc> Has anyone treid installinge opensolaris 2008.11 on an asus eeebox202? When booting from the cd it doesnt start the gdm, and if I log in as jack/jack, then su to root and try to run xorgcfg, i see the following errors: "intel(0) [dri] DRIScreenInit failed. Disabling DRI." & "intel(0): Failed to allocate framebuffer. Is your VideoRAM set too low?" & "intel(0): Couldn't allocate video memory"... Any help would be greatly appreciated.[18:14:03] *** dynamicproxy has joined #opensolaris[18:16:44] *** ravv has joined #opensolaris[18:19:57] <edgeoc> it would appear that the video chipset in this isnt supported for agpgart... guess there is not much I can do[18:22:44] *** prdelka is now known as f00gl3h[18:23:34] <gretel> http://whacked.net/2008/05/08/updated-rtorrent-libtorrent-packages-for-solaris/[18:23:52] <gretel> how to install these packages?[18:25:06] <mlischke> Stric: is it allowed to share a volume which is on a raidz1 pool?[18:25:14] <edgeoc> hmm, http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6738342 fixed in snv103... lemme tery 0906-109 from genunix... maybe Ill get luck[18:25:16] <mlischke> this is the only idea I have now why it could fail[18:25:20] <edgeoc> s/luck/lucky[18:25:21] <Stric> mlischke: that should be unrelated[18:25:38] <gretel> $ pwd ; ls SFWsigc++-2.0.17.pkg ; pfexec pkgadd -d . SFWsigc++-2.0.17.pkg[18:25:39] <gretel> SFWsigc++-2.0.17.pkg[18:25:39] <gretel> pkgadd: ERROR: no packages were found in </export/home/tom>[18:25:43] <oninoshiko> the underlieing zpool arcitecture should be irrellevent[18:25:47] <Stric> mlischke: and if not, it's one of the dumbest things ever. not likely.[18:26:03] <Stric> gretel: pkgadd -d SFW*.pkg[18:26:16] <mlischke> I agree, just trying to find any reasons why I cannot share that thing[18:26:26] <oninoshiko> I know I have iscsi shares on raidz, raidz2, a couple on mirrors on SXCE[18:26:27] <mlischke> should be so simple and yet it fails[18:26:39] <gretel> Stric: pkgadd: ERROR: no packages were found in </var/tmp/dstreAAAE7aicd>[18:28:04] <oninoshiko> plus tossing some striping. I think that bug would have been noticed[18:28:26] <mshadle> if i have an existing snv_94 (i think) with UFS for boot and with ZFS data volumes on physically different disks, can i install snv_110 on the boot disk and use ZFS for the filesystem (so i can do LU) and it will find my existing zfs volumes no problem?[18:28:30] *** turbotutone01 has joined #opensolaris[18:29:50] <Stric> mshadle: just 'zpool import' and it will find your ZFS data volumes[18:30:23] <mshadle> and is there an on-disk format upgrade possible that might need to happen and is that easy enough too?[18:30:33] *** ggeecko has joined #opensolaris[18:31:00] <timeless> stric: err[18:31:07] <timeless> i presume he wants to make / zfs too[18:31:09] <Stric> you don't need to upgrade, but doing so may give advantages.. 'zpool upgrade' to see what it can upgrade[18:31:15] *** CosmicDJ has quit IRC[18:31:45] <timeless> mshadle: fwiw, i had snv53 and instead did a fresh install (which gave me zfs root) and will later do a zpool import for the data[18:31:46] <mshadle> gotcha.[18:31:53] <Stric> timeless: that's unrelated to ".. and it will find my existing zfs volumes"[18:32:12] <mshadle> basically, somehow my install got completely hosed, every service is failing etc[18:32:14] <timeless> > use ZFS for the filesystem (so i can do LU)[18:32:30] <Stric> yeah.. reinstall OS, then import the data volumes with 'zpool import'[18:32:48] <mshadle> and the rule of thumb for LU is split my boot disk into two partitions of the same size right[18:32:50] <gretel> i feel dumb not bein able to install these packages[18:32:57] *** e1kg has joined #OpenSolaris[18:32:57] <timeless> anyway, to take advantage of newer zfs features you'd do a zpool upgrade[18:33:11] <timeless> but keep in mind that doing that ends support for whatever didn't support that zpool version[18:33:29] <mshadle> yeah. well unless there's major bugs in 110.. i'll go with 110 and it's disk format[18:33:34] <timeless> usually you don't move zpools from system to system, so it's not a big deal[18:33:36] <mshadle> ive been wanting to convert this to zfs boot for a bit[18:33:49] <timeless> i've wanted to convert since i first setup my box :)[18:33:51] <mshadle> and now mightbe as good as time as any i dont know hwo to rescue a solaris box[18:33:57] <timeless> (>2yrs ago)[18:34:09] <fdsdf> heeelp http://pastebin.com/m2d55b892[18:34:39] <timeless> fssdf: did you forget to setup a dump volume ? :)[18:34:59] <fdsdf> ?[18:35:03] <mshadle> if i have a 300 gig disk how would you partition that for zfs boot?[18:35:06] <timeless> anyway, if you're panic'ing during boot[18:35:13] <mshadle> or since it's volume-based[18:35:16] <timeless> mshadle: everything for zpool :)[18:35:18] <mshadle> do i even need to?[18:35:23] <timeless> the volumes will share[18:35:28] <timeless> the installer will walk you through it[18:35:29] <mshadle> it will create its own filesystems right?[18:35:29] <fdsdf> wtf is dump volume :D[18:35:42] <timeless> fdsdf: so, this is a panic while booting?[18:35:42] <fdsdf> i created "SOLARIS" only with fdisk .. or wtf![18:35:47] <fdsdf> yea[18:35:48] <Stric> fdsdf: where kernel core dumps end up[18:36:01] <timeless> you can add a flag to the bootloade to get you to land in mdb[18:36:05] <timeless> which you'll want to do[18:36:13] <timeless> but google for that + how to use mdb :)[18:36:29] <timeless> once you know how to do those things, reboot and walk through the process :)[18:36:47] <timeless> google: solaris boot kernel debugger[18:37:12] * mshadle hopes he can boot even with the service failures and get the few scripts he made on the system[18:37:38] <timeless> mshadle: you can use the installer dvd to mount your ufs thing and copy data /somewhere/[18:37:52] <timeless> if that's easier than dealing w/ your crippled os[18:38:10] <mshadle> ok well im int he middle of the installer right now, but i saw no rescue/etc option[18:38:18] <mshadle> just seeme dto want to dump me into "install new OS!"[18:38:33] <timeless> somewhere could also include tempoarily importing the zpool and copying files to a volume there[18:38:38] <mshadle> as long as it has scp/sftp support or even ftp or can get an IP address[18:38:43] <mshadle> then i can copy my stuff off quck[18:38:56] <timeless> are you using indiana or nevada?[18:39:00] <mshadle> or hell i guess i could mvoe it to my ZFS data volume assuming it can be mounted (it seems to be)[18:39:00] <mshadle> snv[18:39:04] <mshadle> 94, i think[18:39:53] <timeless> do you have a gui?[18:39:57] *** ikarius has joined #opensolaris[18:40:01] <timeless> if so you can click on the desktop to get an xterm[18:40:14] <gretel> pfexec pkgadd -d SFWsigc++-2.0.17.pkg does the trick[18:40:49] <mshadle> well, i usually boot without the gui, but i guess i could.[18:41:10] <gretel> Stric: you meant '*' like "insert corret filename here", uh?[18:41:20] <timeless> i'm sure there's a way from the console installer, i don't remember how :)[18:41:40] <mshadle> i thought ive done this before too, using the installer cd to fix something[18:42:01] <Stric> gretel: something like that, yes[18:42:35] <gretel> now i've read the manpage to figure out what you mean ;)[18:43:15] *** rovalent has joined #opensolaris[18:43:27] <gretel> any opinions on pkgsrc on opensolaris? does it work well=[18:43:52] <mshadle> i like pkg-add or whatever[18:44:01] <mshadle> or pkg-get?[18:44:10] <mshadle> from blastwave[18:45:08] *** throatwarbler has joined #opensolaris[18:46:28] *** DukeNuke2 has quit IRC[18:46:51] <mlischke> Stric: ok, I have partial success by using iscsitadm instead zfs set[18:47:16] <mlischke> the iscsi initiator shows the target[18:47:26] <mlischke> though my Mac does not show it as volume[18:47:33] <mlischke> so this is where i'm stuck now[18:48:16] *** chrol_ has joined #opensolaris[18:48:16] *** chrol has quit IRC[18:48:33] *** throatwarbler has left #opensolaris[18:49:46] <gretel> mshadle: blastwave is so outdated[18:50:25] <mshadle> works great for what i eneded. i dont need much userland. jsut enough to compile my version of php for some scripts.[18:56:34] *** hajma has joined #opensolaris[18:56:38] <jamesd> gretel, yeah like a new version was released just wed. how dare they allow a new version to go unported for more than 48 hours... oh the shame.. perhaps you should go back to gentoo, you can't be seen running an OS with software 2 weeks old.[18:57:44] *** gnut has joined #opensolaris[18:58:26] <Zaba_> jamesd, speaking of which, gentoo doesn't even have perl 5.10 yet![18:59:42] <gretel> jamesd: thanks for your comment[18:59:56] <gretel> jamesd: what makes you think i' using gentoo?[19:00:28] *** mega_ has joined #opensolaris[19:00:41] *** mega_ has quit IRC[19:00:48] *** Odin- has quit IRC[19:01:55] <hajma> Hi, I seem to need libiconv.so to build some package, but it seems to be missing from the osol repositories. Any hints appreciated. OSOL109[19:03:54] <jamesd> Zaba_, the linux people have there standards... perl has been demoted... only python, jython, and cobra is allowed to be installed ;-)[19:04:32] <oninoshiko> linux people have standards?[19:04:40] <Zaba_> jamesd, debian introduced perl 5.10 after 2 months or so after its release[19:05:08] <Zaba_> In fact, i think debian is more up-to-date than gentoo nowdays. :p[19:05:22] <flyingparchment> 5.10 is an experimental release that hasn't been updated for several years, no?[19:05:25] <mshadle> is there an equivalent of fdisk -l in osol?[19:05:43] *** thebentzone_ has joined #opensolaris[19:05:48] <Zaba_> flyingparchment, 5.10 is a stable release for more than a year[19:05:51] <mshadle> screw perl i do scripting in php :P or i try in bash so i dont have the php dependency..[19:06:01] <Stric> flyingparchment: 5.10 is the current stable[19:06:38] <oninoshiko> mshadle: I wouldn't use php for anything that wasn't webby[19:06:44] <flyingparchment> http://www.cpan.org/src/README.html[19:06:51] <flyingparchment> 5.10 is "testing", 5.8 is "maint"[19:06:56] <flyingparchment> the page says to use "maint" for production use[19:06:56] <Zaba_> mshadle, I wouldn't like to call something that used to be called Personal Home Page a programming language at all, it's horrid all over, but I ain't gonna flame either.[19:06:58] <mshadle> oh i do. it's great. especially when you reuse the same functions on web and not :)[19:07:17] * Zaba_ shuts up[19:07:22] <Stric> flyingparchment: perl.com says 5.10 is current and 5.8 is old[19:07:35] <mshadle> it was only called that when he invented it ;p[19:08:40] *** dynamicproxy has quit IRC[19:09:21] <flyingparchment> Stric: that page says the same thing--that 5.10 is a "testing" release (by virtue of being x.y.0)[19:10:41] *** ibseo has quit IRC[19:10:53] <mshadle> shit[19:10:56] <mshadle> snaplevels corrupt[19:11:05] <mshadle> heh[19:11:09] <mshadle> infiite loop :([19:11:31] <oninoshiko> hrm?[19:12:25] *** doug_outout is now known as doug_out[19:12:43] <mshadle> when i try to bot[19:13:38] *** thebentzone has quit IRC[19:14:28] *** syd` has joined #opensolaris[19:14:49] *** javatexan has quit IRC[19:15:40] *** marcin__ has joined #opensolaris[19:18:38] <mshadle> i got into the filesystem using solaris failsafe..[19:18:48] *** jgracin has joined #opensolaris[19:19:14] <mshadle> but it doesnt look like any drivers are loaded of course, and my zfs stuff using "zfs import" cant be found probabyl due to that too.[19:19:26] <mshadle> how can i detect a usb drive i plugged in?[19:19:44] <turbotutone01> use "rmformat"[19:20:20] <mshadle> howso[19:20:27] *** turbotutone01 is now known as DukeNuke2[19:21:40] *** syd`_ has quit IRC[19:25:00] *** dunc has quit IRC[19:25:39] *** dunc has joined #opensolaris[19:26:28] *** ingenthr has left #opensolaris[19:31:49] *** klg1 has joined #opensolaris[19:31:53] <klg1> hi![19:32:28] <klg1> hi! i've a hp 4228 all in one printer, it gets detected but no driver, any ideas how to install the driver for it[19:35:40] *** DukeNuke2 has quit IRC[19:36:06] *** tombhadAC has joined #opensolaris[19:39:03] *** capaz has joined #opensolaris[19:40:36] *** SQlvpapir_ is now known as SQlvpapir^[19:41:33] *** sndcrb has quit IRC[19:42:50] *** gnut has quit IRC[19:43:08] *** ejat has joined #opensolaris[19:43:53] *** m3lling has joined #opensolaris[19:44:31] <nachox> klg1, what opensolaris distribution are you using?[19:45:13] <klg1> nachox: osol 2008.11[19:46:49] *** CosmicDJ has joined #opensolaris[19:46:54] <nachox> the developement version of osol contains CUPS which which you're surely familiar with if you've used linux in the past[19:47:09] *** gnut has joined #opensolaris[19:48:08] <m3lling> i downloaded OpenOffice 3.0 for Solaris. How can I get the setup install script to install in the global zone.[19:48:09] <m3lling> ?[19:48:16] <trochej> Ccooffee[19:48:40] <m3lling> and not in my other 3 zones too?[19:50:34] *** fdsdf has quit IRC[19:56:55] *** RaD|Tz has joined #opensolaris[19:57:35] <klg1> m3lling: unzip it[19:57:39] <klg1> run the setup file[19:57:44] <m3lling> yes[19:57:47] <m3lling> did that.[19:57:54] <m3lling> there is a ./setup script[19:58:03] <m3lling> it wants to install in all my zones.[19:58:47] <m3lling> unless maybe it's the way i build my zones. maybe i inherited /opt.[19:58:53] <m3lling> hmmm....[19:58:54] *** sndcrb has joined #opensolaris[20:01:21] *** e-jat has quit IRC[20:03:12] <LouisJB_> i don't suppose anyone knows if the virtualbox additions problems with ON are fixed yet?[20:03:13] *** gretel has quit IRC[20:08:34] *** taltamir has quit IRC[20:09:35] *** cwebber has joined #opensolaris[20:09:40] *** rastal has quit IRC[20:12:48] *** ikarius has quit IRC[20:16:42] *** tombhadAC has 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instance[20:34:03] <mlischke> it won't show you files which where uploaded by smb[20:34:28] <mlischke> such files show up as ---------+ on the command line[20:34:32] <mlischke> if you are root[20:34:39] <mlischke> if not you just get a bunch of questions marks[20:35:07] <flyingparchment> < mlischke> that means apps which don't know the new acls cannot access these files[20:35:13] <flyingparchment> that's not true, the access control is done in the kernel[20:35:18] *** e1kg has quit IRC[20:35:19] *** klg1 has quit IRC[20:35:22] <flyingparchment> when you can 'cat somefile', cat doesn't know or care whether somefile has ACLs or not[20:35:48] <mlischke> how comes that I can only see question marks as normal user for such files?[20:35:51] <brett_> mlischke: have you set aclmode and aclinherit to passthrough ?[20:35:59] <mlischke> I cannot show them in Nautilus nor access them from python it seems[20:36:14] <mlischke> brett_: yes, I just did that after reading a bit about that[20:36:14] *** ejat is now known as e-jat[20:36:26] <mlischke> though another test showed it did not change the way rights are set[20:37:07] <brett_> mlischke: what does ls -v show for the files in question[20:37:45] <brett_> and what are the smb clients[20:39:01] <brett_> and are you using smb/server or network/samba[20:39:29] <mlischke> http://pasteall.org/4678 this is how it looks using traditional commands[20:40:07] <mlischke> Mike@Sisyphos:/daten/audio$ ls -v Todo.txt[20:40:07] <mlischke> ls: cannot access Todo.txt: Permission denied[20:40:23] <brett_> as root?[20:40:30] <mlischke> no, normal user[20:40:45] <brett_> let's see it as root[20:41:03] *** sartek_ has left #opensolaris[20:41:11] <mlischke> http://pasteall.org/4679[20:41:14] <mlischke> as root[20:41:24] <mlischke> I'm member of the group nas[20:41:48] <brett_> odd perms[20:42:08] <tsoome> it doesnt set perms, it sets only acl[20:42:21] <brett_> s/perms/acl[20:42:27] <brett_> odd permissions ;)[20:42:40] <brett_> in the non-overloaded sense[20:42:50] <mlischke> I'd expect that setting certain acls would be reflected as traditional permissions[20:43:53] <tsoome> group acl guid is not translated while user acl is for mike[20:44:34] <mlischke> when I chmod g+r Todo.txt I can see it in Nautilus[20:45:14] <brett_> it looks like you need to set the ACL's at the root of the hierarchy[20:45:26] <mlischke> would it help to run a chgrp over all files again now that I set aclmode to inherited?[20:45:39] <brett_> nope[20:46:00] <brett_> ignore chown/chgrp for these purposes, at the moment[20:46:16] <brett_> get the acl's right, and none of that will matter[20:46:20] <brett_> so[20:46:25] <tsoome> if nautilus wont show the file, its bugged.[20:46:38] <brett_> i'd use chmod A- to reset the acl's[20:46:39] <tsoome> or not properly integrated.[20:46:49] <mlischke> but it is not only Nautilus, I use Coherence as upnp server and it cannot acces these files either[20:46:53] <brett_> then set them to what you want[20:46:59] <mlischke> (which is written in python)[20:48:12] *** _setuid_H has quit IRC[20:48:15] <tsoome> you are using included phyton or some other?[20:48:16] *** servo-- has quit IRC[20:48:29] <mlischke> yes, the included one[20:48:30] <mlischke> 2.4[20:48:53] <tsoome> so you got loads of bugreports to do[20:48:57] <tsoome> :P[20:49:54] <mlischke> hehe, it's not me who uses python (I'm more into C++) but I use software that uses python[20:51:28] *** RaD|Tz has quit IRC[20:51:37] <tsoome> ofc you can check if that py script is messing up with -------- line or attempting to use some real api:)[20:52:49] <mlischke> I made the author aware of that problem already. he's going to look into that issue[20:53:17] <mlischke> this is particularly important as Sun has asked him to integrate coherence into osol directly (so users can use the package manager etc.)[20:53:37] <tsoome> well, if they failed to fix nautilus. ......[20:54:01] <tsoome> that fact speaks for itself...[20:54:52] <tsoome> zfs has been out for years now...[20:56:25] *** piwi has joined #opensolaris[20:57:59] *** stevel has quit IRC[21:02:01] *** chrol_ has quit IRC[21:02:55] *** Zaba has joined #opensolaris[21:05:27] <psychicist> nachox: I've just booted the latest osol beta in kvm, so far it looks good but I had to give it 1 gb of ram, since it wouldn't do much with 256 mb. with 1 gb it also defaults to 64-bit instead of 32-bit, I'm going to install it now and find out how it works. previously I didn't have much luck with 2008.05 in kvm, but this looks much more promising[21:06:52] <nachox> psychicist, opensolaris wont install with less then 512 mb of ram, and even with that, it needs special arrangements. it will always boot in 64 bit mode if the system in which it is being installed is 64 bit capable[21:13:00] <psychicist> nachox: I see, it's been quite some time since I installed any version of solaris (previously only 10 and nevada), but things look really good to me. I didn't want to say so in the other channel (flame wars etc.), but I've been porting slackware to arm eabi lately and am going to look at rebuilding it with conary, which looks a lot like what I need and if that turns out not to be the case I can learn a lot from it for creating my ow[21:13:14] *** stevel has joined #opensolaris[21:13:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o stevel[21:14:01] <nachox> psychicist, if you like conary, there are some guys building an opensolaris distro with conary[21:15:11] *** Zaba_ has quit IRC[21:15:34] <PinkFreud> psychicist: I seem to recall having some issues with OS in kvm as well.[21:15:57] <PinkFreud> psychicist: I'm currently running it PV under Xen, though, and it works nicely.[21:16:04] <psychicist> nachox: sure, I'll ask them for help if needed. so far I'm still in the linux camp but I like solaris[21:17:20] *** logic855 has quit IRC[21:17:39] <nachox> psychicist, Martin Bochnig is the one i think[21:17:47] <psychicist> PinkFreud: with my current 2.6.28.2 kernel it works nicely too, so the issues must have been solved by now, thanks for the heads up[21:18:11] <psychicist> nachox: ah, from martux fame, I think I should contact him indeed[21:18:24] <nachox> yep[21:19:51] <PinkFreud> psychicist: no problem. glad to hear it runs under kvm now, too - I may give that a try again.[21:20:08] *** pjfloyd has joined #opensolaris[21:20:55] <psychicist> nachox: he did a lot of work on xorg sparc drivers too, didn't he? I've been having problems with that for the last 18 months or so, I have to look if the pci multidomain issues have been solved. I think I can (finally) use the osol sparc edition for that[21:21:45] <nachox> psychicist, yes, he has ported that too[21:24:19] <psychicist> I think I'll finally get to work on sparc again, although I could use a niagara or rock system ;)[21:25:45] <DesiJat> i saw a T1000 for sale deal from Sun last week[21:25:53] <DesiJat> 8 core, 16GB RAM, $975.00[21:26:15] <oninoshiko> nice[21:27:01] <nachox> really? that cheap?[21:27:01] <norman> that seams pretty cheap, isn't it?[21:27:18] <psychicist> nice, can I find something about it on the sun website?[21:27:28] <nachox> i dont think you can even get 16gb of ecc ram for that[21:28:02] *** FurnaceBoy has joined #opensolaris[21:28:13] *** nsuperbus has quit IRC[21:30:03] <trochej> Coffee[21:30:17] *** mlischke has quit IRC[21:30:42] *** jiiho has quit IRC[21:31:10] <nachox> damn ips... it's so slow[21:31:33] <DesiJat> nachox: direct deal from Sun. 6 core box with 2gb was $650[21:31:44] <DesiJat> for the startup essentials program[21:31:50] <DesiJat> too bad i already have extra hardware[21:32:07] *** jiiho has joined #opensolaris[21:32:31] <nachox> DesiJat, too bad i'm not in the us, i would have bought that[21:32:45] <nachox> just to have a sparc at home[21:33:27] <nachox> brb[21:33:33] *** nachox has quit IRC[21:36:16] *** daedaluz has joined #opensolaris[21:36:52] *** gottadoit1 has quit IRC[21:38:07] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[21:40:29] *** master_of_master has joined #opensolaris[21:42:55] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris[21:42:59] <nachox> back[21:43:26] <DesiJat> nachox: those machines are loud as hell, to have at home[21:43:37] <DesiJat> i have the x2100 and x4100, can't run them at home[21:43:48] <nachox> DesiJat, just when they start, they have lots of fans[21:43:59] <DesiJat> even after...they're very loud[21:44:03] <DesiJat> but yeah, upfront, they are screaming[21:44:12] *** Gekz has quit IRC[21:44:17] <DesiJat> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5188010581280240288[21:44:33] <psychicist> are they louder than an E250? that's what I've been building on[21:45:06] <DesiJat> the best box i've had for Solaris, if u dont require Sparc, is the Mac Mini :/[21:45:16] <DesiJat> quiet, small, fast as hell[21:46:18] <nachox> damn...[21:46:49] <psychicist> I'm afraid I require sparc, I've been working on a linux distro. it's a shame there isn't something in a desktop form factor. I like my loongson box too, it's so small and silent :)[21:47:02] <DesiJat> ps: Sun Ultra 25[21:47:05] <nachox> wait, i thought you needed something like a screwdriver to turn those things on[21:47:09] <DesiJat> that's sparc, i believe[21:47:19] <DesiJat> nachox: the x4100 requires a pencil/pen[21:47:22] <DesiJat> x2100 does not[21:47:48] <nachox> i always thought that was a design flaw[21:48:21] <nachox> i shouldnt need a sharp object to turn on a server[21:48:51] <oninoshiko> nachox: how often do you really need to turn it on?[21:49:12] <DesiJat> psychicist: I have a Sun Blade 2000 with 8GB of RAM that is virtually silent compared to E250/x2100/T1000[21:49:19] <DesiJat> and it's faster than the E250 too, i bet[21:49:21] <nachox> not too often, i'll grant you that, but still[21:49:31] <tsoome> not sharp;)[21:49:31] <DesiJat> plus, it was dirt cheap on ebay[21:49:39] <CosmicDJ> aren't they turned on using *lom?[21:49:50] <tsoome> ofc they are:D[21:49:58] <CosmicDJ> telnet x2100-sc ; poweron :)[21:50:04] <DesiJat> (How many #opensolaris people does it take to turn on a Sun server)[21:50:09] <CosmicDJ> who needs a button?[21:50:24] <nachox> the guy walking to the datacenter :P[21:50:25] <DesiJat> not all x2100s come with LOM ?[21:50:35] <oninoshiko> and I imagine the same thing shuts them off?[21:50:37] <DesiJat> i didnt buy mine with the SC option[21:50:49] <CosmicDJ> oninoshiko: telnet x2100-sc ; poweroff ;)[21:50:59] <tsoome> CosmicDJ: ist ssh[21:51:04] <tsoome> its*[21:51:14] <psychicist> DesiJat: thanks, I'll try to look for that, it could be the best choice for the time being[21:52:07] *** kindyroot has joined #opensolaris[21:52:33] *** Fullmoon has joined #opensolaris[21:53:30] *** ruse39[home] has joined #opensolaris[21:53:45] <daedaluz> how does latest opensolaris run on eee 901[21:53:52] <daedaluz> very little info about it[21:55:31] *** Chipdancer_ has quit IRC[21:56:43] <nachox> i wouldnt try... solaris is built for servers...[21:57:23] <DesiJat> it works[21:57:32] <DesiJat> someone on blogs.sun.com had it running[21:57:33] <JWheeler> Yeah... netbooks is really going to be pushing your luck for drivers.... still, that's what live CDs are for - testing that kind of thing[21:57:44] <DesiJat> tho, the HP Mini 1000 is much nicer than the eee901[21:58:02] <JWheeler> There was an intel guy talking about it, I'm not sure which EeePc it was though[21:58:48] <DesiJat> daedaluz: http://blogs.sun.com/cphcampus/entry/opensolaris_2008_11_on_my[21:58:56] <DesiJat> basically, u need a recent build, u should be fine[21:59:02] *** app4des has joined #opensolaris[21:59:08] <DesiJat> but if u havent bought it yet, look at the HP Mini 1000 instead[21:59:21] <daedaluz> chatting on it as we speak[21:59:25] <daedaluz> my only computer[21:59:31] <FurnaceBoy> psychicist, the X2100 is quite a bit louder than E250/E450[22:00:34] <DesiJat> daedaluz: ok. latest sxce should work on that machine[22:01:01] <mshadle> i have a zpool available but not mounted anywhere. how can i mount it somewhre[22:01:27] <JWheeler> zfs set mountpoint=/mnt/here <zpool/zfs>[22:01:34] <DesiJat> daedaluz: not sure if the networking works, but...one way to find out[22:01:38] <daedaluz> DesiJat: you mean everything? because I need everything. especially wireless and decent poer management[22:01:54] <JWheeler> or if it's already set, just unmounted: zfs mount <zpool/zfs>[22:01:57] <DesiJat> wireless can work with ndis drivers[22:02:01] <DesiJat> i believe[22:02:15] <DesiJat> power management? i dont believe in power management with Linux/Solaris laptops :P[22:02:38] <DesiJat> no power management ever works as well as OS X+Macbook[22:02:56] <FurnaceBoy> DesiJat++[22:02:58] <psychicist> FurnaceBoy: sad to hear that, I don't think the E250 is that loud really and find it well engineered compared to a Compaq Proliant 5500 from the same era, which was too loud to be bearable. I can't even say my Origin 2000 is unbearably loud, but then again I don't keep it at home anymore[22:03:19] <FurnaceBoy> psychicist, right - E250/E450 is quite tolerable in my apartment. X2100 is *not* something you can work next to.[22:03:26] <FurnaceBoy> not for long periods of time.[22:03:35] <tsoome> 250/450 got *huge* fans[22:03:41] <FurnaceBoy> E450 is about as loud as my Mac G5.[22:03:44] <DesiJat> size of fans dont matter[22:03:48] <DesiJat> x2100 has TINY fans[22:03:52] <CosmicDJ> well, those are servers after all, they're made for datacenters/racks and not someone's desktop[22:03:52] <tsoome> they are not nearly as loud as tiny ones in 1U servers[22:03:53] <FurnaceBoy> but they're LOUD.[22:03:57] <DesiJat> but they are badass fans, and it has a TON of them[22:04:00] <FurnaceBoy> yes.[22:04:01] <nachox> FurnaceBoy, as long as you dont pay the power bill, the E?50 are tolerable, yes :P[22:04:01] <FurnaceBoy> high speed[22:04:03] <FurnaceBoy> 9KRPM[22:04:15] <FurnaceBoy> nachox, I don't. I have a quad E450[22:04:15] <JWheeler> of course size matters... smaller they are, the faster they must spin. Faster = louder[22:04:40] <DesiJat> Picture and video of the Sun X2100 server[22:04:40] <DesiJat> http://www.unixville.com/weblogs/moazam/x2100movie[22:04:43] <FurnaceBoy> yep. trust me they're loud. I have an X2100 sitting on top of the E450 right now. you don't want to run the baby longer than necessary.[22:04:48] <tsoome> and smaller ones make high tone which is a lot harder to tolerate[22:04:52] <FurnaceBoy> ya.[22:05:02] <nachox> x1000 are intel based, right?[22:05:09] <DesiJat> x2100 = amd[22:05:10] <FurnaceBoy> amd opteron[22:05:11] <nachox> err 2100[22:05:35] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[22:06:06] <mshadle> if i want to make sure i am backing up any important configs, i need /etc and what other locations[22:06:46] <FurnaceBoy> mshadle, just a random suggestion, you can export your SMF and zone configs...[22:06:59] <FurnaceBoy> mshadle, I suggest you audit the machine service by service[22:07:40] <mshadle> i dont have any zones, and i dont really have any special smf configs[22:08:00] <FurnaceBoy> ok so list each critical service and find its config :)[22:09:24] * nachox yawns[22:10:09] <mshadle> when creating my zfs boot, do i need to set aside space for LU, or will it handle itself when the time comes[22:10:32] <mshadle> basically if i want to dedicate this 300 gig drive to the OS/whatever, can i just say "use ZFS!" and it will just handle it, besides maybe swap?[22:10:32] <flyingparchment> ZFS LU uses clones in the same pool[22:10:44] <flyingparchment> swap and dump goes in your pool as well[22:11:00] <mshadle> ah, so during the install i say "ZFS" and give it the whole disk and im done.[22:11:05] <FurnaceBoy> yep, it will[22:11:16] <mshadle> i forgot how id id it on my last install :P[22:11:18] <FurnaceBoy> mshadle, but don't use ZFS without redundancy...[22:11:19] <JWheeler> yup[22:11:36] <mshadle> its fine - the data volume is the important thing here[22:11:53] <mshadle> i have a 2 disk redundant boot for my other one, this one is just single disk[22:11:54] *** capaz has quit IRC[22:12:00] <FurnaceBoy> ?[22:12:10] <FurnaceBoy> oh I see.[22:12:21] <mshadle> ive got two boxes[22:12:28] <FurnaceBoy> well there are limited advantages over UFS, in this case...[22:12:31] <mshadle> i really use opensolaris -only- for zfs[22:12:49] <mshadle> well not having to partition is beautiful. LU works much better on zfs :p[22:12:56] <flyingparchment> FurnaceBoy: the LU advantage alone is significant[22:13:03] <flyingparchment> (ever waited half an hour for lucreate to finish?)[22:13:12] <mshadle> ok so i did /etc /var /system /opt[22:13:12] <FurnaceBoy> flyingparchment, I guess so[22:13:58] *** logic has joined #opensolaris[22:14:07] <nachox> Boot environments are the best thing that ever happened to os upgrade systems[22:14:11] <mshadle> bin,b oot, core, devices, kernel, lib, platform ... and of those worth keeping so i can access them after my fresh isntall (in case i needed something)[22:14:17] *** logic is now known as logic855[22:14:23] *** hsp_ has joined #opensolaris[22:14:38] <mshadle> dont think ive tweaked the kernel .conf's on this box[22:14:42] <gnut> how do I use function composition notation to say "f a b c = g $ h a b c"[22:15:11] <nachox> ??[22:15:29] <gnut> oops... sorry. wrong channel :)[22:15:35] <nachox> thought so[22:15:49] <gnut> yeah. realized that after I hit enter... sorry.[22:16:32] <FurnaceBoy> mshadle, on the face of it, no ..[22:17:29] <mshadle> my main thing was my cronscripts i wrote which i have in /root which was symlinked to my zfs data volume anyway.[22:17:53] *** pjfloyd has quit IRC[22:18:09] <mshadle> so i think i got everything i need... if i dont want an x11 install can i choose the ~700mb install nstead of the 4 gig install?[22:18:18] *** tombhadAC has quit IRC[22:18:27] <mshadle> arr, fuggit. ill deal with it[22:20:06] <FurnaceBoy> mshadle, I wish you could.[22:20:40] *** gottadoit1 has joined #opensolaris[22:20:46] *** nachox has quit IRC[22:22:19] <flyingparchment> unless you have a 9GB root disk, you'll find it a lot easier to install everything[22:22:37] *** servo- has joined #opensolaris[22:22:54] <mshadle> yeah.[22:23:00] <mshadle> i just want openssh/sshd[22:23:18] <mshadle> most everything else i get from blastwave (just a few libs for php), postfix, syslog-ng[22:23:31] <mshadle> i dont even know if i am using s yslog-ng or not[22:24:17] *** norman has quit IRC[22:25:49] *** norman has joined #opensolaris[22:26:05] *** Erwing has joined #opensolaris[22:26:54] *** _ej_ has quit IRC[22:27:35] *** hsp has quit IRC[22:28:19] <FurnaceBoy> mshadle, if that's all you want, then the core install is enough. but it omits gnu stuff and in general is a PITA ;-)[22:29:21] *** hsp_away has joined #opensolaris[22:29:53] *** hsp_away is now known as hsp[22:30:29] *** piwi has quit IRC[22:31:45] <mshadle> and we're on our way[22:31:46] *** rovalent has quit IRC[22:31:52] <mshadle> i did the whole install[22:31:56] <mshadle> ive got plenty of space, at least.[22:32:01] <mshadle> zfs boot ftw[22:32:56] *** estibi_ has joined #opensolaris[22:33:56] *** hsp_ has quit IRC[22:35:08] *** ruse39[home] has quit IRC[22:35:58] *** Erwing has left #opensolaris[22:39:17] <gkl> what is the command line tool to change the power settings?[22:39:24] <gkl> /usr/dt/bin/dtpower is the X app[22:39:36] *** ruse39[home] has joined #opensolaris[22:39:50] *** estibi has quit IRC[22:40:30] *** jpd has joined #opensolaris[22:41:24] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris[22:41:39] <nachox> nice, boomer will integrate in b115[22:41:47] <fkr> boomer?[22:42:03] <nachox> open sound system for solaris[22:43:07] *** Catsceo has joined #opensolaris[22:43:19] <flyingparchment> i don't think boomer is OSS[22:43:31] <flyingparchment> at least, that wasn't what gdamore described originally..[22:43:35] *** Catsceo has quit IRC[22:44:22] <Stric> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/opensound/[22:45:15] <flyingparchment> right[22:45:18] <flyingparchment> OSS compatible, but not OSS[22:45:31] <nachox> oss4 is just an api[22:46:13] <nachox> so it is oss, he modified the 4front sources to make it more scalable and less broken[22:46:32] <flyingparchment> just an api? then how did i download and install a binary package? :)[22:48:04] *** bs66_1 has joined #opensolaris[22:48:55] <nachox> flyingparchment, does it work for you? i've found i miss a lot of the gnome related sound functionality (ie, gstreamer)[22:49:16] <flyingparchment> OSS? it's been a while since i used it.. seemed to work okay. except that terrible ossxmix[22:54:33] *** daas has joined #opensolaris[22:55:39] <daas> Check that sun's employee blog, she talks about opensolaris : http://www.SweetSarah.fr/?id=110122[22:58:52] *** bs66_ has quit IRC[22:58:56] * ewdafa- awaits the kick[23:00:41] *** mikefut has quit IRC[23:01:55] *** tombhadAC has joined #opensolaris[23:02:02] *** ikarius has joined #opensolaris[23:02:50] *** hudnix has quit IRC[23:06:06] *** revlo has joined #opensolaris[23:06:06] *** app4des has quit IRC[23:07:04] *** daas has quit IRC[23:07:47] <CosmicDJ> sweet sarah talks about opensolaris, I don't think so ;)[23:07:56] *** bizkut has left #opensolaris[23:12:09] *** sahX has joined #opensolaris[23:12:10] *** luc^ has quit IRC[23:13:44] *** hsp has quit IRC[23:14:33] *** cwebber has quit IRC[23:15:51] *** SQlvpapir_ has joined #opensolaris[23:16:42] *** SQlvpapir has quit IRC[23:18:20] *** cwebber has joined #opensolaris[23:19:21] *** bs66_1 has left #opensolaris[23:20:26] *** radsy has joined #opensolaris[23:21:13] *** alain10 has joined #opensolaris[23:22:23] *** sndcrb has quit IRC[23:30:33] *** fftb has quit IRC[23:34:50] *** NoFX_SBC has quit IRC[23:35:09] <tomww> flyingparchment: boomer tries to be as OSS API compatible as possible, and I think shares (parts) of the drivers[23:35:19] <flyingparchment> mmh[23:35:30] <flyingparchment> that would be sensible, but i remember gdamore doesn't like oss much in general[23:35:35] <tomww> I tried the rc1a version right after the announcement. It just wirked.[23:36:11] *** mshadle has left #opensolaris[23:36:15] <tomww> audacity worked fine (using portaudio, detects the OSS API und uses that)[23:36:21] *** rovalent has joined #opensolaris[23:37:01] <tomww> flyingparchment: I can fully understand that. He had *very* close look at this. And there is special need for furure SunRay multiuser-audio ....[23:38:02] <tomww> but they seem to work closely together, the OSS ppl (see the bommer README) share new recommendations about some mixer handling[23:38:32] <tomww> theold SUn api is still availabble to retain comatibility. This is perfect :-)[23:38:52] <tomww> well, compatibility.[23:38:59] *** sahX has quit IRC[23:41:08] <gretel> how do i configure fault manager to send emails?[23:41:13] *** syamajala has joined #opensolaris[23:42:37] <syamajala> does anyone know if sata port multipliers are supported?[23:42:47] <syamajala> i've been finding mixed answers[23:43:04] <flyingparchment> i think not[23:43:36] *** tom__ has joined #opensolaris[23:43:36] <gretel> syamajala: afaik they are on marvell sata controllers, not on sii[23:43:46] <syamajala> what i read on the forums was that support was supposed to be added to 110[23:43:47] <tomww> syamajala: I think the is a) hardware b) bios c) driver[23:44:17] <syamajala> i have a sil3124 controller and my box uses the sil3726 pm[23:44:26] <tom__> would the latest open solaris run ok with 256 mb of ddrII ?[23:44:36] <flyingparchment> no[23:44:38] <oninoshiko> no[23:44:42] <flyingparchment> that's not even enough to run the installer[23:44:43] <tom__> dam :D[23:45:02] <oninoshiko> get 1G, memory is cheap[23:45:28] <tom__> ive got 2gb but will be running as a virtual machine :)[23:45:39] <gretel> to anwser my own question: http://prefetch.net/code/fmadmnotifier[23:45:49] <tom__> and already runnning win2k8server and windows 7 with 512 each :)[23:46:09] *** revlo has quit IRC[23:46:16] <tom__> will have to upgrade to 4gb soon :D[23:46:41] <flyingparchment> gretel: that doesn't seem to do any state checking... so it'll send mail every time it's run until the problem is fixed[23:46:56] *** __coredump__ has quit IRC[23:47:14] <gretel> flyingparchment: i just need something to start with.. if you got something better, please..[23:47:35] <flyingparchment> well, should be simple to add. just store the output in a temp file and use cmp[23:48:23] <syamajala> i found this http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=355817&tstart=0[23:49:30] <syamajala> is there a change log i can look at to see if support was actually added in 110?[23:50:22] *** Fullmoon has quit IRC[23:51:44] *** _coredump_ has joined #opensolaris[23:51:45] *** sahX has joined #opensolaris[23:52:01] <Stric> syamajala: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/on/downloads/b110/on-changelog-b110.html might have stuff[23:52:38] *** jgracin has quit IRC[23:53:49] <syamajala> doesn't look like there is anything[23:53:56] <syamajala> guess the only way i will find out is if i try[23:54:00] *** fftb_ has quit IRC[23:54:27] <syamajala> thanks...[23:54:30] *** syamajala has quit IRC[23:56:28] *** SQlvpapir_ has quit IRC