February 1, 2009 
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February 1, 2009 [00:01:03] <xRaich[o]2x> falafel![00:01:13] <hrist> hunger :([00:01:17] <hrist> arf[00:01:18] <hrist> :)[00:01:39] *** matts has quit IRC[00:03:02] <hecsa> hunger too! time for dinner in Argentina! My BBQ is waiting for me![00:04:49] <nofoo> oh man. i would love it to live in argentinia... having a barbecue and drinking some yerba mate[00:04:51] <monsted> oh, argentina - say hi to my dad for me :)[00:05:15] <nofoo> i had the mate anyways, but it's too cold for bbq in germany ;)[00:05:21] <hrist> no[00:05:29] <hrist> we already had one on wednesday :>[00:05:52] <xRaich[o]2x> you're just insane.[00:05:54] <hecsa> monsted: your parents are living here?[00:06:07] <hrist> xRaich[o]2x: wasn? :> war lecker :)[00:06:23] <xRaich[o]2x> hrist: aber nicht bei der kälte </deutsch>[00:06:35] <hrist> sure[00:06:37] <monsted> hecsa: my dad is taking a few months to help a project in BA who works with street children[00:06:41] <hrist> wasn't cold at the grill[00:07:16] <hecsa> wow! great![00:07:18] <nofoo> i could do that the whole year, but then i have to do that alone ;)[00:07:46] <xRaich[o]2x> nofoo: friends are overrated ;)[00:08:18] <nofoo> damn right ;)[00:08:59] <nofoo> tell it to them who are calling me almoust every weekend and want to get me out of my house for some party ^^[00:09:00] *** mlh has quit IRC[00:09:12] <hecsa> monsted: where is he?[00:10:00] <monsted> hecsa: yeah, it's pretty nice. He retired a couple of years ago and got bored so he's using his business skills to help get the project more funding and whatever else he can do[00:10:01] *** jamesd_ has quit IRC[00:10:05] <xRaich[o]2x> nofoo: bastards....[00:10:12] *** derchris has quit IRC[00:10:25] <monsted> hecsa: hmm, somewhere outside central buenos aires, not sure where[00:10:38] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[00:10:47] <hecsa> do you remember the name of the project?[00:11:00] <monsted> unfortunately not :([00:11:09] * monsted checks his mail for any clues[00:12:06] <monsted> he seems to be in a place called Olivos[00:12:22] <hrist> i like olives :)[00:13:31] <hecsa> Olivos! Is not so far from where I live, maybe only one hour[00:15:04] <hecsa> It's a beautiful place[00:15:11] *** pawz has joined #opensolaris[00:15:35] *** cypromis has quit IRC[00:16:05] <pawz> hey, question. does the regular opensolaris 2008.11 image support sparc ? It boots fine on my intel box, but it won't boot on my Ultra 5. is it intel only ?[00:16:19] <xRaich[o]2x> pawz: not yet[00:16:33] <pawz> wow, i didn't realise that.[00:16:34] <xRaich[o]2x> 2009.04 should have sparc support[00:17:05] <pawz> i found a user built distro called Natamar 0.4 which is built for sparc[00:17:18] <jpdrawneek> probably will not[00:17:20] <pawz> and it was updated in september so it must be based on fairly recent sources[00:17:42] <jpdrawneek> unless text install appears[00:18:23] <pawz> i'm so surprised it's intel only, i guess it reflects sparc's gradual disappearance :"([00:18:41] <pawz> feels just like the death of the power5 in macs[00:18:44] <pawz> sad[00:19:00] <monsted> use real solaris for sparc until opensolaris gets up to speed on the sparc platform[00:19:10] <xRaich[o]2x> well sun announced that 2009.04 will have sparc support dunno...[00:19:23] <xRaich[o]2x> monsted+1[00:19:31] <jpdrawneek> sun announced that sparc support for 2008.11[00:19:37] <jpdrawneek> but gfx is foobar[00:19:39] <pawz> yeah i'll have to do that, but 10 is sorta old itself[00:19:49] <jpdrawneek> so it was kick back to 2008[00:20:13] <pawz> but i know 10 well enough so i'll go with that and i might install opensol on a spare intel box for fun anyway[00:20:21] <jpdrawneek> pawz - stick to SXCE[00:20:48] <jpdrawneek> its almost opensolaris but works on sparc[00:21:07] <pawz> sxce is another project branch is it ?[00:21:26] <pawz> i haven't heard of it before[00:21:29] <jpdrawneek> was the inter between sol10 an sol11[00:21:47] <jpdrawneek> its the second link down on the download page?[00:22:02] <jpdrawneek> how have you never heard of it?[00:22:30] <pawz> my sun machines have been gathering a lot of dust recently. last time i used it was when 10 just came out[00:22:39] <pawz> so i haven't been following things for the past 3-4 years[00:23:09] <pawz> i just wanted to dust it off and try something new on the sparc, so i'll have a look at sxce[00:23:14] <jpdrawneek> k - SXCE started with the Sol10 betas[00:24:28] <codestr0m> umm.. it just occurred to me.. how are safe upgrades of the repository.db handled by svc?[00:24:59] <codestr0m> I mean between snv_xx and snv_1xx the scheme may change.. and if you have imported your own services.. you'll have to do that again or.. is there a more clean way[00:25:26] <codestr0m> like export them all and try to reimport.. the ones that already exist will fail and all is well?[00:26:04] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[00:26:39] <pawz> jpdrawneek, second link on sun's or opensolari's download page ? i'm having trouble locating it :"D[00:27:09] <pawz> think i found it[00:27:18] *** taltamir has joined #opensolaris[00:27:30] <pawz> ahh ok.. Solaris Express[00:27:38] <jpdrawneek> yep[00:34:14] *** gehmehgeh has quit IRC[00:36:50] *** bahumbug has quit IRC[00:37:15] *** capitano has quit IRC[00:38:42] *** mikefut_ has joined #opensolaris[00:38:43] *** mikefut has quit IRC[00:47:29] *** colyte has joined #opensolaris[00:54:39] *** BlueZeniX_ has quit IRC[00:56:34] *** coolvibe has quit IRC[00:56:36] *** coolvibe has joined #opensolaris[01:01:38] *** mikefut_ has quit IRC[01:01:52] <pawz> hmm, 2008.11 just reboots on me after about 20 dots of grub status[01:02:04] <pawz> in both graphical and text mode[01:02:25] <pawz> athlon cpu, geforce3. anything i should try ?[01:03:53] <jpdrawneek> boot with -kd option[01:04:04] <pawz> ok thanks. what's that do ?[01:04:13] <nachox> start the debugger[01:04:21] <jpdrawneek> when grub option appears[01:04:28] <elektronkind> wasn't geforce3 desupported by nvidia's drivers?[01:04:37] <pawz> hey also, i can only get SXCE on dvd, but my sparc only has a cdrom (and no usb). do they provide tools for transferring to cds or are cd image downloads available ?[01:04:38] <jpdrawneek> press e - gets into edit mode[01:04:53] <jpdrawneek> netboot for sparc[01:05:06] <nachox> go to the solaris option you're trying to boot with, press e, then go to the kernel line and add that[01:05:23] <pawz> ok nachox[01:05:24] *** sndcrb has quit IRC[01:05:41] *** heril has quit IRC[01:06:02] <pawz> what about cd images for ppl who don't have dvd's. what do you do there ?[01:06:07] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris[01:06:14] <jpdrawneek> you be SOL[01:06:27] <pawz> use an older distro ? lol i have sunos4 here[01:06:34] <pawz> SOL ?[01:06:43] <pawz> shit out of luck ?[01:06:43] <jpdrawneek> sod out of luck[01:06:53] <pawz> hah just caught onto it[01:06:56] <jpdrawneek> good enough[01:07:27] <nachox> you can use an older sxce release and use LU to upgrade from a loopback mounted dvd image[01:07:28] <pawz> i could netboot it from an nfs mount of the dvd though, couldn't i ?[01:07:39] <jpdrawneek> yep[01:07:48] <pawz> yeah wicked, i'll try that tonight[01:08:00] <jpdrawneek> its quicker than off the cd/dvd[01:08:01] <nachox> you can also install through netinstall[01:08:03] *** finnzi has joined #opensolaris[01:08:11] <jpdrawneek> same thing[01:08:17] <pawz> nachox, netinstall is what, a minimal disk image ?[01:08:33] *** Tusk2 has joined #opensolaris[01:08:36] <nachox> i meant netinstall as in installing from the net[01:08:42] <Tusk2> hey there[01:08:43] *** bizkut has joined #opensolaris[01:08:51] <pawz> you can do that directly from openfirmware ? :")[01:09:03] <pawz> that'd be very cool[01:09:04] <jpdrawneek> read up on jumpstart[01:09:12] <pawz> k thanks. i will[01:15:53] *** pawz_ has joined #opensolaris[01:16:47] <pawz_> lol, well i'm in the debugger and wondering wtf i can do. i bet it's this crappy nforce motherboard causing it to reboot, i might try it on a different machine[01:17:10] <jpdrawneek> :c to contiune[01:17:17] <jpdrawneek> see where it dies[01:19:15] <pawz_> i got a SunOS kernel message for a split second and then instant reboot[01:19:17] <pawz_> :"([01:19:48] <Tusk2> one would recommend a full solaris compatible motherboard for quadcore ??[01:20:33] <jpdrawneek> Tusk2 - what chip?[01:20:53] <jpdrawneek> Tusk2 - which solaris[01:21:04] <Tusk2> open solaris 2008.11[01:21:18] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[01:21:36] *** Rarok has quit IRC[01:21:45] <jpdrawneek> chip?[01:21:47] *** dustman has quit IRC[01:21:57] <Tusk2> nothing particular[01:22:03] <Tusk2> that's why i ask[01:22:24] <jpdrawneek> k - intel supports got quite good[01:22:29] <Tusk2> gonna buy some stuff, but not sure what to choose to get it compatible[01:22:53] <jpdrawneek> otherwise amd and nvidia chipset, 5 series if you can find it[01:23:11] <Tusk2> nvidia serie % ?[01:23:15] <Tusk2> 5[01:23:35] *** Kernel86 has joined #OpenSolaris[01:23:47] <jpdrawneek> ya 5 series was pretty good - never ones have become flaky[01:24:14] <Tusk2> you can find those brand new?[01:24:29] <jpdrawneek> if you look hard enough[01:24:37] <Tusk2> i would have tried a phenom II[01:24:51] <jpdrawneek> too new[01:25:10] <Tusk2> but AM2 mainboards are all AMD 780/790 based[01:25:29] <jpdrawneek> not quite, but close[01:25:52] <Tusk2> yeah by all i mean most ;)[01:26:06] *** AxeZ has quit IRC[01:26:07] <jpdrawneek> if your going brand new, bleeding edge - best bet is intel[01:26:38] <Tusk2> most part have realtek netyork chipsets[01:26:42] <Tusk2> network[01:26:50] <Tusk2> how is it supported under OS ?[01:27:13] <jpdrawneek> intel has dumped alot of code last year into opensolaris[01:27:25] <Tusk2> oh[01:28:03] <Tusk2> actually brand new platform would have been cheaper :P[01:28:40] <Tusk2> AMD[01:28:46] <jpdrawneek> depends where you are getting the parts for[01:28:47] <Tusk2> damn i can't type tonight[01:28:49] *** artiflo has quit IRC[01:29:17] <Tusk2> well not server stuff[01:29:27] <Tusk2> so from town reseller[01:29:36] <Tusk2> or online stuff[01:30:04] <jpdrawneek> k - i got a few online places in the UK which turns up cheap parts[01:30:24] <Tusk2> they sell everywhere?[01:30:56] <jpdrawneek> lucky to get scotland[01:31:47] <Tusk2> :D[01:31:57] <Tusk2> i'm from switzerland[01:32:25] <jpdrawneek> k - try german, got a few cheap part from them[01:38:04] *** tosh has quit IRC[01:38:33] <Tusk2> mmmh i'll look for stuff[01:45:31] <z1nOnly> can qemu be run from OpenSolaris? is there a package for this?[01:48:46] *** The-spiki has quit IRC[01:48:55] *** The-spiki has joined #opensolaris[02:05:46] <h3sp4wn> z1nOnly: Look at the qemu project on Opensolaris.org[02:05:55] <h3sp4wn> (There is spec-files in SFE also)[02:06:07] *** gm152_ has quit IRC[02:11:40] <Tusk2> some using wine on OS??[02:16:12] *** gm152 has joined #opensolaris[02:19:32] *** cypromis has quit IRC[02:23:42] *** bizkut has quit IRC[02:23:44] *** jpdrawneek has left #opensolaris[02:24:15] *** finnzi has quit IRC[02:30:35] *** wdp_ has quit IRC[02:34:14] <starkmjolk> Tusk2: sure[02:34:38] *** jamesd has joined #opensolaris[02:34:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o jamesd[02:35:17] <Tusk2> starkmjolk: working well?[02:44:25] <starkmjolk> sure, played a few games of starcraft on it =P[02:44:31] <starkmjolk> havent tried it much though[02:45:02] *** bizkut has joined #opensolaris[02:45:20] <Tusk2> ok nice[02:45:24] <starkmjolk> and oh, I picked up the latest release source directly from wine and compiled it, but if you find a version from IPS that should work well too[02:45:58] <Tusk2> compiled with gcc or sunstudio?[02:47:12] <starkmjolk> gcc[02:47:25] <Tusk2> ok[02:51:26] *** ShanghaiScott has joined #opensolaris[02:59:15] *** asarch has quit IRC[03:04:17] <StayTuned> :)[03:04:41] *** palowoda has joined #opensolaris[03:07:22] *** ShanghaiScott has quit IRC[03:09:13] *** ShanghaiScott has joined #opensolaris[03:16:04] *** Tusk2 has quit IRC[03:23:23] *** stux|away|away has joined #opensolaris[03:23:27] *** jcea has quit IRC[03:24:46] *** rmorse has quit IRC[03:28:37] *** Wez has left #opensolaris[03:33:33] *** stux has joined #opensolaris[03:34:50] *** teletubbie has joined #opensolaris[03:39:44] *** StayTuned has quit IRC[03:41:20] *** stux|away has quit IRC[03:41:45] *** stux|away has joined #opensolaris[03:43:37] *** endless has joined #opensolaris[03:43:56] <endless> sxce just hosed my 14TB array[03:43:59] <endless> 106[03:44:44] <endless> i keep getting error: AYBRBTU[03:45:20] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[03:50:11] *** Kernel86 has joined #OpenSolaris[03:51:42] *** stux has quit IRC[03:52:18] *** stux|away|away has quit IRC[03:52:22] *** stux has joined #opensolaris[03:52:46] *** _coredump_ has quit IRC[03:53:29] *** jHoNDoE has joined #opensolaris[03:53:44] *** _coredump_ has joined #opensolaris[03:54:35] *** stux|away|away has joined #opensolaris[04:01:49] *** tlvb has quit IRC[04:03:12] *** stux|away has quit IRC[04:05:26] *** c00p has quit IRC[04:05:33] *** c00p has joined #opensolaris[04:08:01] <solaris_newb> ok after much cooking of good food i got to post the error im having with compiling darkice http://www.pastebin.ca/1324135[04:12:14] *** balbir has joined #opensolaris[04:13:14] <balbir> how can I findout the total size of my hard disk in GB, format utilities show like this format> current[04:13:15] <balbir> Current Disk = c0d1[04:13:15] <balbir> <DEFAULT cyl 3068 alt 2 hd 128 sec 32>[04:13:15] <balbir> /pci@0,0/pci-ide@1,1/ide@0/cmdk@1,0[04:13:23] *** stux has quit IRC[04:17:24] <balbir> never mind, got it. iostat -E :)[04:18:52] *** balbir has quit IRC[04:19:23] *** balbir has joined #opensolaris[04:19:50] *** sah-work has joined #opensolaris[04:21:29] *** ek1g has joined #OpenSolaris[04:30:45] *** muriel has joined #opensolaris[04:35:27] *** hecsa has left #opensolaris[04:40:23] <colyte> How would use syntax wise to override the gfx driver used from the livecd?[04:40:36] *** balbir has left #opensolaris[04:40:43] *** freakazoid0223 has joined #opensolaris[04:40:45] <colyte> meh.. what would i use syntax wise...*[04:41:05] *** Gekz has joined #OpenSolaris[04:51:50] <methods> df -h ?[04:52:00] *** methods has left #opensolaris[05:01:05] *** jlr has quit IRC[05:06:32] *** Kathrin-25^away has quit IRC[05:07:28] *** Kathrin-25^away has joined #opensolaris[05:12:42] *** h3sp4wn has quit IRC[05:12:59] *** Catsceo has quit IRC[05:14:36] *** loke has quit IRC[05:14:58] *** Catsceo has joined #opensolaris[05:16:08] *** loke has joined #opensolaris[05:17:16] *** bizkut has quit IRC[05:18:22] *** sah-work has quit IRC[05:19:11] *** freakazoid0223 has quit IRC[05:19:21] *** sah-work has joined #opensolaris[05:22:10] *** sah-work has quit IRC[05:23:02] *** Necrosan has joined #opensolaris[05:23:48] <Necrosan> Question, doing a regular Sol10 install, dont have discs 4 or 5 so sharing them through NFS, the installer is claiming the path im feeding it is not the correct CD.[05:24:08] <Necrosan> Does any trickery need to be done in /etc/exports or is this not possible?[05:27:33] *** pawz_ has quit IRC[05:35:29] <loke> Necrosan: look into jumpstart for a network install[05:38:41] <Necrosan> the path you specified does not contain the image for solaris 10 software 4[05:38:45] <Necrosan> is the error its throwing[05:39:09] <Necrosan> the path is CLEARLY the disc image mounted on this OSX machine[05:43:29] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC[05:48:02] *** muriel has quit IRC[05:50:32] *** sah-work has joined #opensolaris[05:54:43] *** master_of_master has joined #opensolaris[05:57:31] *** lesterc has joined #opensolaris[06:03:32] <lesterc> hmm I have trouble restarting a nv104 box which is constantly hammered with nfs clients - can anyone help?[06:04:37] <lesterc> both `init 6` and `shutdown -i6` is stuck waiting for sharemgr.[06:05:01] <lesterc> prstat shows it's running with 22% CPU (it's has 4 cores)[06:06:18] *** master_o1_master has quit IRC[06:08:07] *** Necrosan has left #opensolaris[06:11:50] *** Chipdancer has joined #opensolaris[06:12:22] *** nachox has quit IRC[06:12:22] <lesterc> ping[06:27:50] *** gm152 has quit IRC[06:28:04] *** lesterc has quit IRC[06:28:10] *** lesterc has joined #opensolaris[06:42:01] *** pkoc has joined #opensolaris[06:56:25] *** anilg has joined #opensolaris[07:01:16] *** Kathrin-25^away has quit IRC[07:01:59] *** Kathrin-25^away has joined #opensolaris[07:06:08] *** oxygen-a1dict has joined #opensolaris[07:07:46] *** pkoc has quit IRC[07:13:58] *** traskbt has joined #opensolaris[07:15:25] <traskbt> Can anyone tell me where I can get the orange "Java desktop" start-here.png icon (used in [previous?] versions of Solaris)?[07:16:41] <traskbt> (seen in this screenshot: http://blogs.mie.utoronto.ca/roller/oscar/resource/solaris11-screen-1024.jpg[07:19:26] *** oxygen-addict has quit IRC[07:19:37] <throwt> sxce[07:23:54] <traskbt> Do you know where I can browse the source for it?[07:24:33] <traskbt> I can only find default OpenSolaris source (holding the OpenSolaris logo for the start-here.png icon rather than the orange Java icon).[07:36:54] *** arkey has joined #opensolaris[07:37:43] <arkey> hola[07:39:47] <traskbt> Hello.[07:40:08] *** Kathrin-25^away has quit IRC[07:42:26] <skullone> is there a sysctl equivelent in opensolaris?[07:52:35] *** Kathrin-25^away has joined #opensolaris[07:58:26] *** comay has joined #opensolaris[07:58:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o comay[08:00:08] <jamesd> skullone, what do you want to change[08:00:49] <skullone> some TCP options, like send/recv buffers[08:01:23] <jamesd> ndd can do that, and crossbow has even more things you can change and configure[08:01:39] <skullone> ah, thanks[08:01:57] *** axisys has quit IRC[08:03:47] *** pjfloyd has joined #opensolaris[08:05:06] *** wormdrink has joined #opensolaris[08:05:27] <wormdrink> hi, how do i get rid of this : [ Trying mutual KERBEROS5 (host/10.1.106.162 at 1 dot 106.162)... ] Kerberos V5: mk_req failed (No such file or directory) [ Trying KERBEROS5 (host/10.1.106.162 at 1 dot 106.162)... ] Kerberos V5: mk_req failed (No such file or directory)[08:09:59] *** anilg is now known as anilg_away[08:10:29] *** anilg_away has quit IRC[08:11:34] *** bizkut has joined #opensolaris[08:11:51] *** perlmongo has joined #opensolaris[08:12:15] *** bizkut has quit IRC[08:12:29] *** wormdrink has quit IRC[08:12:32] *** bizkut has joined #opensolaris[08:21:03] <traskbt> How do I manually install a .pkg?[08:21:19] *** sniffle has joined #opensolaris[08:22:12] *** bizkut_ has joined #opensolaris[08:22:29] <traskbt> Never mind, I just figured it out.[08:23:56] <sniffle> Hello. (unfortunately) I have only x86 machines. I've been considering installing openSolaris on them, however, I'd first like to try some sort of openSolaris(-based) livecd. Could anyone please recommend one of the "options" currently existing (such as but not limited to: belenix, schillix)?[08:24:38] *** Kathrin-25^away has quit IRC[08:25:12] *** sndcrb has joined #opensolaris[08:27:15] *** ShanghaiScott has quit IRC[08:28:29] <bizkut_> sniffle, opensolaris 2008.11 is a livecd with installer[08:30:09] <sniffle> Oh, *nice*. Thank you.[08:31:28] <bizkut_> np[08:33:38] *** traskbt has quit IRC[08:34:18] *** bizkut has quit IRC[08:34:23] *** bizkut_ is now known as bizkut[08:36:26] *** w0rmDrink has joined #opensolaris[08:37:11] <w0rmDrink> hi, i want to get rid of [ Trying mutual KERBEROS5 (host/10.1.106.162 at 1 dot 106.162)... ] Kerberos V5: mk_req failed (No such file or directory) [ Trying KERBEROS5 (host/10.1.106.162 at 1 dot 106.162)... ] Kerberos V5: mk_req failed (No such file or directory)[08:38:15] *** ShadowHntr has joined #opensolaris[08:39:33] *** Kathrin-24^away has joined #opensolaris[08:40:46] <w0rmDrink> help plz[08:43:00] *** ikarius has left #opensolaris[08:43:33] *** fredg has quit IRC[08:44:29] *** lesterc has quit IRC[08:45:01] <bizkut> w0rmDrink, go to System -> Services and uncheck the Karberos services[08:45:30] <bizkut> i mean System -> Administration -> Services[08:49:26] <w0rmDrink> hmm[08:49:26] <w0rmDrink> no GUI[08:49:45] <w0rmDrink> but svc should show this karberos services ?[08:49:48] <w0rmDrink> svc adm[08:49:59] <bizkut> yes[08:53:57] <sniffle> ok. this is pretty nice (opensolaris livecd)[08:55:03] *** wims has joined #opensolaris[08:58:41] *** Kathrin-24^away has quit IRC[08:59:34] *** Kathrin-24^away has joined #opensolaris[09:01:26] <bizkut> sniffle, you'll love it[09:05:29] <wims> so i wanna check out opensolaris, should i get sxce or opensolaris 2008.11 ?`[09:05:44] *** palowoda has quit IRC[09:06:32] <bizkut> wims, opensolaris 2008.11 if you want to try and install with better software support. sxce instead if you are developing opensolaris.[09:06:57] *** boyd_ has joined #opensolaris[09:08:04] <wims> k cool[09:08:14] <jamesd> sxce if you want a more stable system, without the cutting edge software management... sxce tracks the cutting edge kernel and stuff, but has a more stable base,[09:09:01] *** LiNERROR has quit IRC[09:11:03] *** taltamir has quit IRC[09:11:06] <bizkut> jamesd, I upgraded 2008.11 to snv_105 via /dev/ repo, are the kernel and stuff the same as sxce edition?[09:11:28] *** arkey has quit IRC[09:11:30] <jamesd> kernel is the same..[09:11:40] <jamesd> but current sxce kernel is 106[09:11:50] <sniffle> opensolaris feels linuxy, is it supposed to be like that?[09:12:02] <bizkut> sniffle, it is because of gnome lol[09:12:32] *** mustang has joined #opensolaris[09:13:22] <bizkut> sxce get better at every releases, I can feel the differences[09:15:40] <jamesd> sniffle, yes that is marketing goal for opensolaris...[09:18:09] <wims> sorry for the extremely thick question, but how do i install a .pkg ?[09:18:36] <x58> Hey guys, I created a new zone and I would like to add a new user that is able to use pfexec much like in a general OpenSolaris install, how do I go about setting that up?[09:18:44] <bizkut> man pkg if you are using 2008.11[09:19:40] <jbk> or do you mean a file that ends in .pkg ?[09:19:48] *** boyd has quit IRC[09:19:53] <wims> file that ends in .pkg[09:19:56] <wims> i found out[09:19:58] <wims> i googled[09:20:03] <wims> :P[09:20:05] <codestr0m> morning![09:20:12] <codestr0m> asyd: morning[09:20:39] <bizkut> wims, use the package manager , easier[09:20:48] <wims> hmmm i dunno about that[09:21:06] <wims> i generally think its easier to write a line instead of clicking 15 clicks in a gui[09:21:19] <bizkut> because what I know .pkgs are for mac os x[09:21:41] <wims> hm ok[09:21:42] <bizkut> wims, I agree with you, so use pkg[09:23:01] *** Kathrin-24^away has quit IRC[09:23:35] *** Kathrin-24^away has joined #opensolaris[09:24:22] *** ShadowHntr has quit IRC[09:26:35] *** anilg has joined #opensolaris[09:27:04] *** lesterc_ has joined #opensolaris[09:28:51] *** w0rmDrink has quit IRC[09:29:25] *** ^authentic has joined #opensolaris[09:32:07] <wims> if i run opensolaris through vbox, would i be able to enable desktop effects ?[09:32:52] *** Moo-Crumpus has joined #opensolaris[09:34:14] <comay> wims, do you mean compiz?[09:34:25] <wims> not sure what solaris uses[09:34:51] <wims> i thought sun had developed some in-house compositing window manager?[09:35:08] <comay> i think you mean compiz - unfortunately, VB's 3d support doesn't allow the use of compiz[09:35:27] <comay> you're probably thinking of Looking Glass but that's not what's in opensolaris[09:35:33] <wims> k[09:43:49] *** authentic has quit IRC[09:43:58] *** ^authentic is now known as authentic[09:48:50] *** bizkut has quit IRC[09:52:49] *** lesterc_ is now known as lesterc[09:53:09] *** h3x has joined #opensolaris[09:53:58] *** fredg has joined #opensolaris[09:54:13] *** LiNERROR has joined #opensolaris[10:20:46] *** hsp has joined #opensolaris[10:24:15] *** sniffle has quit IRC[10:26:02] *** joanesh has joined #opensolaris[10:26:14] <joanesh> Hi[10:26:28] <joanesh> How do I get pkgutil (blastwave) not ask me any questions ?[10:26:36] <joanesh> what do I have to do in the conf file[10:27:34] *** traskbt has joined #opensolaris[10:29:37] <traskbt> My USB drive isn't detected, how can I manually mount it, or make it automatically detected?[10:30:25] <joanesh> what version of solaris are you using traskbt[10:30:32] <traskbt> 2008.11[10:30:42] <traskbt> Recent install.[10:31:18] <joanesh> check in /dev/dsk[10:31:26] <Moo-Crumpus> joanesh, what questions?[10:32:02] <joanesh> Moo-Crumpus: it keeps asking those options[10:32:11] <joanesh> press y or n[10:32:17] <joanesh> or all[10:32:41] <joanesh> For vlc its downloading almost 109 packages.. I see it pops up a message y/n[10:32:41] <traskbt> joanesh, a whole bunch of files like "c0t0d0p0" are in /dev/dsk[10:33:05] <traskbt> joanesh, that's usual (if you're installing VLC via pkg-util from blastwave)[10:33:07] <joanesh> so I can`t go off after starting the download, it needs me to stay there and press enter or y[10:33:30] <CosmicDJ> "-y, --yes Answer yes on all prompts"[10:33:36] <joanesh> traskbt: there is a way to get it to answer all the questions automatically[10:33:46] <joanesh> Ah.. thanks CosmicDJ[10:33:58] <CosmicDJ> joanesh: thank the manpage or the pkgutil usage[10:34:06] <traskbt> http://ultravioletos.blogspot.com/2008/05/opensolaris-and-blastwave.html[10:34:09] <joanesh> :)[10:34:22] <traskbt> You could also follow that guide and set up an IPS repo to use the default package manager.[10:34:28] <Moo-Crumpus> joanesh, 109 ? guess this are the dependencies. Blastwave packeges depend of Blastwave packages.[10:34:48] <CosmicDJ> yeah the pkgutil stuff is only for solaris8,9,10 IIRC[10:34:51] <fredg> traskbt, it happens sometimes to me too (fat filesystem), try to unplug and plug again (and again), wait, and nautilus should open it[10:34:58] <CosmicDJ> opensolaris users should use the IPS repo[10:35:06] <joanesh> I am also using 2008.11[10:35:07] <traskbt> fredg, I've been trying for a long time, heh.[10:35:13] <fredg> arff[10:35:29] *** Wuju has joined #opensolaris[10:36:32] <joanesh> Moo-Crumpus: its the first package I am installing from blastwave[10:36:36] <joanesh> maybe thats why[10:36:56] <traskbt> My USB _may_ be ext2, would that be the reason it wouldn't be being detected?[10:36:59] <joanesh> also, lifewithsolaris.jp doesn`t work anymore.. so I came back to blastwave[10:37:12] *** bizkut has joined #opensolaris[10:37:14] <joanesh> traskbt: I think you need vfst[10:37:19] <joanesh> vfat *[10:37:22] <joanesh> not ext[10:37:43] <traskbt> I just thought of that, I'll run to my mother's Linux box and format the USB drive, hopefully that'll help.[10:37:52] <h3x> mother's linux box? rofl[10:38:02] <joanesh> Lol[10:38:04] <Moo-Crumpus> joanesh, lifewithsolaris was stopped. They have some legal issues.[10:38:07] <h3x> 10 years ago i never thought id hear such a statement[10:38:09] <bizkut> my parents use linux[10:38:14] <joanesh> yeah I read some where[10:38:19] <joanesh> mine too[10:38:29] <joanesh> I installed Ubuntu on the dell and she is happy now[10:38:43] <joanesh> windows vista was really slow[10:38:49] <bizkut> they happy without viruses[10:39:09] <bizkut> virus, the only matter[10:39:19] <joanesh> I bought my laptop without any os... so installed open solaris 59B, now opensolaris 2008.11[10:39:33] <joanesh> bizkut: it also gets slow over time.[10:39:33] <h3x> i wish i could find a comparison of opensolaris 2008.11 vs. solaris 10 somewhere[10:39:41] <h3x> like, zfs features and stuff[10:39:53] <joanesh> h3x: check the opensolaris bible `s 1 st chapter[10:39:54] <bizkut> joanesh, I agree, I think it's because of services and eye candy desktop[10:39:57] <h3x> ok[10:40:01] <joanesh> its there as a pdf[10:40:06] <joanesh> planet.opensolaris.oe[10:40:07] <h3x> thanks for the tip[10:40:12] <joanesh> yeah np[10:40:26] <joanesh> I am just waiting for it to release[10:40:30] <h3x> bastards, its not on kindle[10:40:45] <h3x> hah so its not on paper yet either[10:40:53] <joanesh> yes[10:40:57] <fredg> traskbt, did you took a look at dmesg ? and try mount -F ext2fs /dev/dsk/c3d0p4(it's an example) /mnt[10:42:06] *** Moo-Crumpus has quit IRC[10:42:31] <joanesh> I find copying files from/to usb on opensolaris is slow. It takes 10 mins more than Linux.. any idea why[10:42:53] <joanesh> Today was copying my music and pics ..[10:42:59] <h3x> oh[10:43:02] <joanesh> found it slower[10:43:03] <bizkut> joanesh, could be the drive controller driver[10:43:10] <joanesh> maybe[10:43:16] <bizkut> i mean disk[10:43:21] <tsoome> seems like usb 2 vs usb 1 issue?[10:43:30] <joanesh> I got a segate laptop hdd and converted to an external usb drive[10:43:49] <bizkut> wrong usb's driver loaded?[10:43:50] <joanesh> Its not really a flash drive[10:43:58] <joanesh> not sure bizkut[10:45:15] <traskbt> It looked like my USB was fat16 and I formatted to fat32 and no luck, should I try fat16 again?[10:46:10] *** chymus has joined #opensolaris[10:46:40] <joanesh> Mine is fat32[10:46:47] <joanesh> I think fat32 is better than fat26[10:46:50] <joanesh> fat16*[10:47:24] <traskbt> Do I just need to try all devices in /dev/dsk or what?[10:48:10] <h3x> well i looked at chap 1 and it just told me what i already know :) pretty vague[10:48:39] <joanesh> Oh..[10:49:02] <joanesh> There is also one more book.. from Apress[10:49:07] <joanesh> Pro opensolaris[10:49:10] <h3x> yeah[10:49:15] <h3x> i was hoping someone just made a comparison list[10:49:29] <h3x> showing like, what isnt in opensolaris, because of licensing or whatever[10:49:54] <h3x> or what is in opensol that aint in sol 10 yet coz its new[10:50:02] <bizkut> traskbt, rmmount -l[10:51:14] <joanesh> Can we create zones only if we are connected to the internet. I see it downloads a couple of file[10:51:43] <joanesh> is there a way that it can just link itself to the global pool[10:52:12] <bizkut> file:///export/home/bizkut/Documents/Videos/nurse_hosp._ld.3gp[10:52:19] <traskbt> I just ran dmesg after unplugging and plugging it back in, and it look like it detects it, but I can't tell where it is or anything.. I'll give you a pastebin in a minute.[10:52:32] <bizkut> sorry wrong window[10:54:24] <h3x> lol[10:54:48] <CosmicDJ> mh pr0n...[10:54:58] <h3x> solaris porn! /export[10:54:58] <h3x> haha[10:55:00] *** capitano has joined #opensolaris[10:55:00] <traskbt> http://pastebin.com/m8012dda[10:55:01] <bizkut> not really[10:55:04] <capitano> hi[10:55:08] <traskbt> The last lines of dmesg after plugging in my USB.[10:55:30] <joanesh> What`s the nurse doing at the hospital ?[10:55:44] <bizkut> i just successfully compiled mplayer with amrnb but without gui[10:56:10] <capitano> anyone that use virtualbox ?[10:56:22] <traskbt> "/pci@0,0/pci1028,188@1d,7/storage@8" would that be it?[10:56:27] <bizkut> traskbt, scsa2usb0 would be the node[10:56:46] <joanesh> how did you get that bizkut?[10:56:52] <joanesh> the device nod[10:57:05] <bizkut> at the first line[10:57:37] <bizkut> at hi speed (USB 2.x) on USB 2.0, lucky you[10:57:58] <joanesh> where do I get cool opensolaris wallpapers/themes[10:58:13] <traskbt> Good luck :P[10:58:13] <bizkut> gnome-look.org[10:58:27] <traskbt> Is that my USB drive?[10:58:33] <traskbt> "/devices/pci@0,0/pci1028,188@1d,7/storage@8"[10:58:36] <joanesh> bizkut: do they ?[10:58:38] <bizkut> yes it is[10:58:40] <joanesh> let me check[10:58:41] *** lesterc has quit IRC[10:58:56] <traskbt> It says it's a read-only file system?[10:58:59] *** lesterc has joined #opensolaris[10:59:02] <bizkut> joanesh, they are generics gnome[10:59:14] <bizkut> traskbt, what is the filesystem?[10:59:19] <traskbt> fat32[11:00:00] <bizkut> could be dirty, maybe?[11:00:03] <joanesh> how do I change the gdm theme in solaris[11:00:09] <traskbt> I just formatted it.[11:00:53] <bizkut> joanesh, System - > Preferences -> Appearance[11:01:05] <bizkut> traskbt, check the mount flag[11:02:11] <joanesh> bizkut: GDM theme.. thats the login theme[11:02:32] <joanesh> found it[11:02:36] <bizkut> joanesh, i can't find the Login Manager either[11:02:40] <bizkut> where?[11:02:51] <joanesh> you can copy it to /usr/share/gdm/themes[11:03:00] <joanesh> and change the theme name is gdm conf file[11:03:09] <bizkut> oh, without gui[11:03:15] <bizkut> ok[11:03:21] <joanesh> yeah[11:03:44] <traskbt> bizkut, how do I 'check the mount flag'? I don't mount it myself, it's done automatically I guess (but it doesn't appear in Nautilus or anything)[11:04:20] <bizkut> so the opensolaris theme is not perfect yet, I wonder mac os x doesn't have "theme" options[11:04:44] <bizkut> traskbt, you format the usb drive using opensolaris?[11:04:55] <traskbt> No, a Linux box (gparted)[11:05:23] <bizkut> weird then if you can mount it using nautilus[11:05:25] <joanesh> where is the gdm conf file ?[11:05:28] <bizkut> *can't[11:05:34] <traskbt> /etc/X11/gdm/custom.conf[11:05:46] <traskbt> I _can't_ mount it with Nautilus.[11:05:57] <bizkut> /usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf[11:06:06] <bizkut> heh[11:06:41] <bizkut> traskbt, I think it's a bug[11:07:01] <Wuju> Hello guys, I am new to opensolaris, I am testing it out on virtualbox. I am not sure how different opensolaris is besides whats explained on its website.[11:07:15] <traskbt> "how different" compared to what, heh?[11:07:32] <traskbt> OpenSolaris vs. Linux is completely different from OpenSolaris vs. Windows, for instance.[11:07:33] <bizkut> Wuju, I think it works as said[11:07:55] <traskbt> (vs. merely meaning comparatively, not a contestedly)[11:08:16] <tsoome> depends what do you expect from it[11:08:21] <bizkut> Wuju, what are you using right now?[11:08:32] <Wuju> opensuse[11:09:01] <tsoome> if you are expecting mature, stable, fully functional etc, you are looking on wrong thing,)[11:09:14] <bizkut> if you are a normal desktop user, could be not much difference between linux and opensolaris[11:09:24] *** sah-work has quit IRC[11:09:58] <joanesh> bizkut: you can do pfexec gdmsetup[11:10:17] <bizkut> and if you are using mplayer of vlc for playing movies, could be pain intheass, you would compile the yourself like i did[11:10:32] *** joanesh has quit IRC[11:10:36] <traskbt> Opera: great browser, horrible torrent downloader :\[11:10:45] <bizkut> wow[11:10:52] <capitano> what in gnome could take over virtualbox use of the cdrom ?[11:10:57] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[11:11:26] <bizkut> capitano, rephrase[11:11:52] <Wuju> bizkut: I mainly use linux to virtualize operating systems, and to play games, program, whatever is fun. I use KDE. The only thing I care about is stability, performance, and good support for applications that would run.[11:12:42] <capitano> bizkut, it seems there is something that doesn't permit to vbox user to use the cdrom[11:13:28] *** CyberBlue has joined #opensolaris[11:13:37] <bizkut> opensolaris would be good if you are using zones or virtualbox, but the last thing you said "good support for applications" not for GNUs apps, they work little bit pain on opensolaris[11:13:43] <tsoome> Wuju: as opensolaris is being very actively developed, you may find some glitches from time to time;)[11:13:54] <bizkut> capitano, try using pfexec VirtualBox[11:14:45] <tsoome> gnu apps work with pain in any system tbh:D[11:15:04] <Wuju> tsoome: dang it, it reminds me of using opensuse in the early days it was very glitchy and updates fast.[11:15:28] <bizkut> tsoome, but they are worse on opensolaris[11:15:51] <tsoome> for example?[11:16:07] <Wuju> tsoome: I heard that opensolaris has a very good team of programmers.[11:16:08] <bizkut> gparted?[11:16:15] <capitano> could someone point me to a virtualbox howto on opensolaris host ?[11:16:23] <bizkut> Wuju, they are SUN employees[11:16:25] <tsoome> why the hell should one use gparted on solaris?![11:16:32] *** balbir has joined #opensolaris[11:16:46] <bizkut> tsoome, GUI[11:17:22] <bizkut> as I know, opensolaris , ian murdock, debian, you know[11:17:50] <tsoome> wuju basically you can look on opensolaris as beta solaris;) calling it open will make all geeks (who are addicted to word open) to get interested;)[11:18:21] <Wuju> tsoome: when are sun goals to make it commercial.[11:18:33] <tsoome> ?[11:18:39] <Wuju> tsoome: i mean not as beta anymore[11:18:48] <tsoome> solaris is not beta[11:19:22] <Wuju> solaris is the old os right?[11:19:30] <Wuju> tsoome: they new name is opensolaris right?[11:19:31] <bizkut> Wuju, solaris are free[11:19:46] <tsoome> old? ofc it got rooots. nice strong and deep ones[11:19:47] <balbir> I have set up RAID 1 and mirrored root (/) . Now am booting from alternate root, how to check from which RAID 0 stripe OS is currently booted ?[11:20:00] <bizkut> Wuju, the are still solaris, the latest released Solaris 10[11:20:17] <bizkut> opensolaris now would become Solaris 11[11:20:25] <tsoome> and its nowhere near old in sense of technology, it gets constant updates[11:21:02] <balbir> I am using 'metastat' command but can't findout which is primay(first) RAID 0 strip metadevice in operation[11:21:50] <tsoome> if you compare solaris 10 GA version with current, there are loads of updates, which make all this stuff available[11:22:37] <bizkut> tsoome, is it possible IPS will be implemented in Solaris 11[11:22:41] <bizkut> ?[11:22:56] <tsoome> if you need rock solid, stable os, go for solaris; if you wanna peek into future and can accept some gliches, check out opensolaris[11:23:07] <tsoome> it quite possible will be[11:23:09] <h3x> blahhh i have to get SXCE so i can use the COMSTAR stuff[11:23:55] <bizkut> tsoome, my acer aspire one _must_ get sxce for the driver patches[11:24:05] <tsoome> but as there are huge stocks of packages for solaris, i dont expect this to happen before IPS will provide support to old pkg system[11:24:06] <Wuju> that makes sense.[11:24:16] <h3x> hahahahha[11:24:24] <h3x> you can run solaris on a aspire one? omfg[11:24:42] <tsoome> bizkut: pc world?[11:25:16] <tsoome> welcome to hell then;)[11:25:19] <h3x> sorry i mean, comstar iscsi[11:25:23] <bizkut> h3x, http://blogs.sun.com/oslab/entry/acer_aspire_one_passes_opensolaris[11:25:33] * h3x runs solaris on his blackberry[11:25:37] <h3x> or not!![11:25:41] <h3x> That'll be next[11:26:00] <h3x> nice[11:26:51] <bizkut> thanks to David Clack[11:26:55] <tsoome> i have sxce on my W2100z at work and solaris on servers, but desktop is OSX:D[11:26:55] <Wuju> but isnt solaris missing a lot of features that opensolaris has?[11:27:03] <tsoome> sure[11:27:17] <bizkut> as because he got the one, so he badly want opensolaris works on it[11:27:23] <tsoome> as i told, its an development version[11:28:02] <bizkut> new things added everyday into opensolaris[11:28:21] *** balbir has quit IRC[11:28:24] <tsoome> new technologies, drivers, frameworks will appear on opensolaris[11:28:54] <capitano> in which way can I do vbox host networking in opensolaris ?[11:29:03] <tsoome> when they are grown stable enough, they get into solaris[11:29:26] <Wuju> Hey that makes sense.[11:29:34] <bizkut> capitano, i can't use host networking too[11:30:03] <bizkut> Wuju, that's how it works[11:30:04] <capitano> shit[11:30:23] <bizkut> capitano, i don't figure out it yet[11:30:26] *** Kathrin-24^away has quit IRC[11:30:38] <Wuju> bizkut: does the word open come to mind as beta?[11:31:05] <Wuju> bizkut: some people do not even know. They end up using solaris not wanting some bugs.[11:31:17] <bizkut> Wuju, yes I think[11:31:44] <tsoome> well, havent used vbox myself, but it seems google does provide quite some...[11:32:02] <bizkut> Wuju, actually there are NO "stable" operating systems ever ;)[11:32:21] *** sah-work has joined #opensolaris[11:32:27] <Wuju> bizkut: so opensolaris is more stable than solaris?[11:32:28] <tsoome> well, if you look stable as never changing.....[11:32:43] <tsoome> then only dead os can be stable[11:33:07] <Wuju> windows 95[11:33:08] <tsoome> Wuju: vice versa, lol[11:33:21] <bizkut> Wuju, opensolaris got new features tha solaris doesn have[11:33:33] <Wuju> like what?[11:33:55] *** codestr0m1 has joined #opensolaris[11:34:10] <bizkut> IPS, zfs time slider etc[11:35:35] <Wuju> when will they be added to solaris?[11:35:39] <Wuju> next year? = P[11:36:08] <DerSaidin> we don't know[11:36:09] <bizkut> i don't know, I think when solaris 10 become obsolete[11:36:30] <Wuju> you said solaris still gets updates.[11:37:04] <tsoome> ofc it gets[11:37:06] <bizkut> yes updates, until it can't be updated more, then solaris 11 will be released[11:37:28] <bizkut> lunch time, brb[11:38:13] <tsoome> once solaris 11 will be released, the 10 will get mostly only patches[11:38:22] <Wuju> solaris 9 2002, Solaris 10, 2005, solaris 11 i think 2009[11:38:49] <hali> i think sun is doing an hp-ux on us[11:38:53] <hali> to "reassure" companies[11:38:58] <tsoome> ?![11:39:05] <Wuju> What do you guys think of opensuse?[11:39:05] <hali> i.e. the 10 version level will be here for age[11:39:08] <hali> ages*[11:39:13] <Wuju> Don't they compete with sun = p[11:39:15] <hali> hp-ux has been 11i for about 10 years[11:39:16] <tsoome> lol[11:39:30] <tsoome> what makes you think like that?[11:39:53] <h3x> hahha[11:40:03] <h3x> hpsux[11:40:13] <hali> yes[11:40:23] <tsoome> hp is a printer company, what else you expect from them:P[11:40:30] <h3x> its the only thing that sucks more than SCO[11:40:37] <hali> sun have added lots of very major features in to solaris since 10GA, a lot more than they historically have[11:40:59] <hali> like going from no zfs support to zfs boot support in just update release of 10[11:41:11] <hali> remember 10GA didn't even have zfs support[11:41:49] <hali> most likely a marketing way to reassure PHB's it's nothing to worry about as it just very minor changes[11:42:13] <hali> good for us techies though, we get to play with recent technology instead of being stuck with old boring stuff[11:42:22] *** sophokles has joined #opensolaris[11:42:27] <tsoome> :D[11:43:13] <hali> as HP have done with HP-UX, it was 11.00, 11i, 11iv2, 11iv3 etc[11:43:17] <hali> all just 11[11:43:19] <Wuju> lets rename opensolaris to betasolaris.[11:43:29] *** Kathrin-24^away has joined #opensolaris[11:43:41] <tsoome> Wuju: you cant[11:43:58] <tsoome> then its not "open"[11:44:19] <tsoome> then its bad proprietary;)[11:45:04] <Wuju> if solaris is not open and its free to use right?[11:45:25] <tsoome> solaris is more open than most osses[11:45:34] <h3x> how about we rename it to f*cklinux[11:46:07] <tsoome> as it does provide stable and well documented interface for developers to create apps.[11:46:11] <Wuju> you guys still think linux stole unix code = p[11:46:30] <tsoome> wuju dont start that[11:46:32] <hali> Wuju: yes, i give SCO $10 of my allowance every week[11:46:43] *** luc^ has joined #opensolaris[11:47:08] <tsoome> linux is nothing more than ideas stolen from any other system available around.P[11:47:26] <hali> some scandinavian bloke with good cut'n'paste mojo[11:47:27] <Wuju> then microsoft steals?[11:47:35] <tsoome> they all do[11:47:48] <hali> "bad artists copy, good artists steal!"[11:47:55] <Wuju> i agree.[11:47:56] <tsoome> you yourself are doing that[11:48:21] <tsoome> you look around, read news, get ideas[11:48:27] *** codestr0m has quit IRC[11:48:49] <hali> use other product and realize how much they suck and how you could do xyz better[11:48:52] <tsoome> some ideas can be brand new, some are modification of someones elses work[11:48:57] <hali> it's pretty hard not too[11:49:39] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[11:49:45] *** cypromis_ has joined #opensolaris[11:51:11] <Wuju> ??? no 64 bit on solaris = ([11:52:24] *** Moo-Crumpus has joined #opensolaris[11:52:26] <tsoome> ?[11:52:38] <tsoome> lol, solaris is all about 64bit[11:53:17] <Wuju> the download said x86[11:53:32] <Wuju> but i now see it, it supports both.[11:53:35] *** Tusk2 has joined #opensolaris[11:53:36] <tsoome> there is no 32 vs 64 bit media[11:53:47] <Tusk2> hey[11:54:21] <Moo-Crumpus> Someone knows a media server app (like twonky) for opensolaris?[11:54:24] <tsoome> it will run 64 if it can, or 32 if hw cant do 64[11:56:32] *** sophokles1 has joined #opensolaris[11:58:03] *** traskbt has quit IRC[11:59:02] <Wuju> thank you for your wonderful help.[11:59:25] <tsoome> hope we cleared a view a bit:P[12:00:30] <Wuju> what about driver updates for graphic cards?[12:00:41] *** codestr0m1 is now known as codestr0m[12:00:46] <Wuju> i thought that might be a problem for solaris?[12:00:56] <Tusk2> depend of your card[12:01:09] <Tusk2> if Nvidia, look at their website[12:02:23] *** cypromis has quit IRC[12:02:37] <Wuju> Toodles guys, I love Sun.[12:02:40] *** Wuju has left #opensolaris[12:05:09] *** fftb has joined #opensolaris[12:05:17] *** plavcik has joined #opensolaris[12:07:03] *** cypromis__ has joined #opensolaris[12:07:26] *** cypromis__ has quit IRC[12:07:40] <plavcik> I installed ndis driver for my Wifi card, unfortunatelly the machine can't boot anymore, also in singl mode I'm getting reboot, could I disable the driver in grub / kernel parameters?[12:08:00] *** wdp has joined #opensolaris[12:08:08] *** chymus has quit IRC[12:08:47] *** Moo-Crumpus has quit IRC[12:10:36] *** derchris has quit IRC[12:10:41] *** derchris has joined #opensolaris[12:11:39] *** sophokles has quit IRC[12:14:17] *** cypromis_ has quit IRC[12:15:40] *** CyberBlue has quit IRC[12:18:03] *** codestr0m1 has joined #opensolaris[12:24:55] *** throwt has quit IRC[12:25:28] <plavcik> I booted using older snaphshot of root, now I will try to use rollback[12:32:12] <plavcik> rollback workde fine, I have to stay without Wifi[12:32:20] <Tusk2> lol[12:32:22] *** codestr0m has quit IRC[12:35:07] <plavcik> any idea, if more wifi drivers will be included in next OpenSolaris version?[12:36:31] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[12:36:46] *** sah-work has quit IRC[12:37:37] <kimc> good morning[12:37:50] *** sah-work has joined #opensolaris[12:37:54] <plavcik> goo afternoon[12:37:55] *** sah-work has quit IRC[12:38:11] <kimc> ok afternoon :)[12:38:21] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #opensolaris[12:38:33] <plavcik> ;)[12:39:05] *** c00p has quit IRC[12:39:05] <bizkut> good evening[12:39:08] <bizkut> ;)[12:39:15] *** mikefut has joined #opensolaris[12:40:11] *** c00p has joined #opensolaris[12:41:55] *** Teo` has joined #opensolaris[12:44:31] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[12:54:49] *** CyberBlue has joined #opensolaris[12:59:56] <bizkut> plavcik, what device do you got there[12:59:59] *** codestr0m1 has quit IRC[13:04:12] <Tusk2> hey is audio chipset ADI AD2000B suported in OS?[13:04:50] *** bizkut has quit IRC[13:05:09] *** teletubbie has quit IRC[13:09:07] *** asarch has joined #opensolaris[13:11:36] *** codestr0m has joined #opensolaris[13:12:18] <anti-tanq> Zik Hai! Frends, why record milax032.usb to usb-drive?[13:16:57] <anti-tanq> Friends, how to write at opensolaris liviusb?[13:17:33] *** asarch has quit IRC[13:19:47] *** bizkut has joined #opensolaris[13:21:03] <CosmicDJ> google "opensolaris usb" ?![13:21:58] <CosmicDJ> or google "milax usb"[13:21:59] *** ek1g has quit IRC[13:25:49] <anti-tanq> I have milax032.usb. "cat milax032.usb | dd of = / dev / <device_name> bs = 4096" will work?[13:26:25] *** asarch has joined #opensolaris[13:27:12] *** bizkut has quit IRC[13:27:12] *** asarch has quit IRC[13:27:37] <anti-tanq> My operating system - Linux[13:28:03] <tsoome> why are you here=![13:28:05] <tsoome> ?[13:28:37] *** rtor has quit IRC[13:28:56] *** rtor has joined #opensolaris[13:29:01] <anti-tanq> I want to try opensolaris as liveusb[13:30:12] <smtms> anti-tanq, dd if=milax032.usb of=/dev/<device_name> bs=4096 <- should work[13:30:43] *** Kathrin-24^away has quit IRC[13:30:51] *** Kathrin-24^away has joined #opensolaris[13:32:06] *** cky has quit IRC[13:32:22] <anti-tanq> smtms: Very grateful! Let[13:32:48] *** asarch has joined #opensolaris[13:39:23] *** bizkut has joined #opensolaris[13:41:36] *** Openfree has joined #opensolaris[13:42:02] *** bizkut has quit IRC[13:42:12] *** anti-tanq has quit IRC[13:48:23] *** anti-tanq has joined #opensolaris[13:49:36] *** yksinaisyyteni has joined #opensolaris[13:49:42] *** Rarok has joined #opensolaris[13:51:39] *** lesterc has quit IRC[13:51:54] <anti-tanq> smtms: I tried it. All enrolled. File System ufs, you can overlook the files, but I can not boot from usb. You may need to install as the boot loader?[13:52:26] <smtms> anti-tanq, booting from USB is very machine-specific[13:58:55] <Tusk2> got a friend that tried OS2008.11 usb release it didn't work neither[14:00:12] *** codestr0m1 has joined #opensolaris[14:00:19] *** asarch has quit IRC[14:01:12] <anti-tanq> smtms: I have a notebook Acer Aspire 5100. My steps: When you boot a laptop, I hit F12 to invoke the boot drive selection menu. Select your USB-drive c set milax032.usb, but continues booting from the hard drive (the boot loader GRUB to my Linux system). Maybe there is another way to install opensolaris as liveUSB?[14:02:17] *** Openfree has quit IRC[14:04:35] <smtms> anti-tanq, why not install it on your HDD?[14:05:00] *** randux has joined #opensolaris[14:05:54] <Tusk2> maybe he wants to from the liveusb?[14:06:49] <smtms> anti-tanq, can you try booting from this USB device on another machine?[14:08:30] *** codestr0m has quit IRC[14:10:24] <anti-tanq> smtms: Unfortunately I was in a very secluded spot. In the near future, there is no way to get access to another machine. I am not familiar with Unix Solatis. I'm not sure that Solaris is the best system for my laptop. But I really want to try it now. Now I have a lot of free time for testing opensolaris.[14:11:16] <smtms> anti-tanq, tried the LiveCD?[14:14:11] <anti-tanq> smtms: No, not yet tried. LiveCD milax in the iso?[14:15:21] <smtms> anti-tanq, I can't understand your question[14:15:45] *** bahumbug has joined #opensolaris[14:16:32] *** nrubsig has joined #opensolaris[14:16:32] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o nrubsig[14:16:46] <nrubsig> !seen Tpenta[14:16:48] <Drone> Tpenta is currently online in #opensolaris and last spoke on Tue 27 Jan 2009 02:51 GMT, saying 'What cd's StayTuned2?'.[14:17:00] <anti-tanq> smtms: milax032.usb this "iso" format?[14:25:16] <randux> any opensolaris developer online now?[14:26:48] <smtms> anti-tanq, no AFAIK[14:27:03] <smtms> anti-tanq, get the OpenSolarsis 2008.11 ISO from the sun or opensolaris site[14:27:25] <smtms> anti-tanq, the CD is much less likely to refuse to boot[14:29:20] <e^ipi> c[14:32:37] <nrubsig> randux: sort of[14:33:36] <randux> hi nrubsig[14:33:52] <randux> i found a problem on x86 trying to install either 10/08 or SXCE b106[14:34:09] <randux> the installer creates zfs root mirrored on 2 drives, it works fine[14:34:30] <randux> but the problem is when installgrub fails because is_bootdisk() can't identify boot drive hdx name from BIOS[14:34:51] *** codestr0m3 has joined #opensolaris[14:34:53] <randux> i can boot system manually if i load install dvd and go to grub command line, so system is installed and zfs is good[14:34:57] <randux> everything works[14:35:11] <randux> but grub doesn't install and installgrub from command line also fails[14:35:19] <randux> do you have any idea how to fix it?[14:36:12] *** hsp is now known as hsp_away[14:37:29] *** w0rmDrink has joined #opensolaris[14:37:33] <w0rmDrink> hi[14:37:47] <w0rmDrink> if i create one ZFS file system, can i then afterwards sub divide it[14:37:53] <w0rmDrink> like say i want /var and /opt as seperate paritions, but zfs, would i then make one zfs file system and use heirarchy to split it to /var and /opt ?[14:38:04] <w0rmDrink> and if that is the way to go can i then take snapshots of var and opt seperately ?[14:38:10] <w0rmDrink> so basically: 1) create pool 2) create parent FS [zfs create -o mountpoint=/export/zfs -o sharenfs=on -o compression=on tank] 3) create children [ zfs create tank/opt; zfs create tank/var; ] ?[14:38:17] <w0rmDrink> is that right ?[14:39:03] <randux> i will come back in one hour[14:39:09] *** randux has left #opensolaris[14:41:42] <DerSaidin> sounds right to me w0rmDrink[14:41:48] <DerSaidin> I'm fairly new myself though[14:41:52] <w0rmDrink> ok[14:42:08] <w0rmDrink> then, lets say i already have a ufs parition at /opt[14:42:15] <w0rmDrink> and i want to migrate it to zfs[14:42:30] <w0rmDrink> basically tar it, then what ?[14:42:51] <DerSaidin> is root zfs?[14:43:00] <w0rmDrink> no[14:43:03] <w0rmDrink> its 05/08[14:43:05] <w0rmDrink> not 10/08[14:43:19] <w0rmDrink> i installed ufs partitions[14:43:21] *** codestr0m1 has quit IRC[14:43:47] <DerSaidin> umm, not sure, but I'd say make the zfs first, mounted at a different point[14:43:53] <DerSaidin> then copy contents[14:44:02] <DerSaidin> then remove old /opt[14:44:09] <DerSaidin> and change the zfs mountpoitn to /opt[14:44:47] <w0rmDrink> hmm but i have no free space[14:44:49] *** capitano has quit IRC[14:46:35] <Tusk2> migrating partitions without free space sux[14:49:05] *** JWheeler has joined #opensolaris[14:54:31] <CosmicDJ> why don't you take this as a hint and migrate everything to zfs with 10/08? ;)[14:54:39] <CosmicDJ> (or better, sxce or opensolaris)[14:55:59] *** codestr0m3 has quit IRC[14:56:20] *** xRaich[o]2x has quit IRC[14:57:25] *** sndcrb2 has joined #opensolaris[14:58:08] *** anti-tanq has quit IRC[14:58:22] <w0rmDrink> Hi, im having trouble with parition resize[14:58:29] <w0rmDrink> or repartitioning rather[14:59:54] <CosmicDJ> well, once you did the layout and installed everything, it's hard to change things[15:00:46] *** sndcrb has quit IRC[15:01:03] *** wdp_ has joined #opensolaris[15:01:17] *** ShanghaiScott has joined #opensolaris[15:03:51] *** wdp has quit IRC[15:03:56] *** Caino has quit IRC[15:04:03] *** TT2 has joined #opensolaris[15:04:45] *** Caino has joined #OpenSolaris[15:08:56] *** TT2 has quit IRC[15:09:47] *** nachox has joined #opensolaris[15:09:56] <w0rmDrink> hmm its allright, ill do it from the solaris install cd[15:13:27] *** bahumbug has quit IRC[15:15:22] *** jpdrawneek has joined #opensolaris[15:15:39] *** codestr0m has joined #opensolaris[15:15:39] *** The-spiki has quit IRC[15:15:47] *** codestr0m has left #opensolaris[15:17:21] *** CyberBlue has quit IRC[15:19:08] *** gerard13 has joined #opensolaris[15:21:35] *** nrubsig has quit IRC[15:21:57] *** fftb has quit IRC[15:22:40] *** fftb has joined #opensolaris[15:25:34] *** sndcrb2 is now known as sndcrb[15:28:30] *** e1kg has joined #OpenSolaris[15:31:39] *** lblume has joined #opensolaris[15:31:51] <lblume> Hi channel.[15:32:20] <e1kg> Hi;)[15:32:57] *** msm has joined #opensolaris[15:33:20] <lblume> Does anybody know if ACL are going to work for Samba shares of ZFS, on Solaris 10? Someday?[15:33:40] <msm> hi I got open solaris live cd but on install its keeps looping...I am installing on my laptop..[15:34:50] *** gerard131 has joined #opensolaris[15:34:51] <msm> I tried grub kernel option -B acpi-user-options=2 but it did no good...keeps looping...[15:35:41] <nachox> lblume, i think solaris 10 u4's samba was patched to work with zfs acls[15:35:59] *** codestr0m has joined #opensolaris[15:36:03] <lblume> Yes, but it's still a mess.[15:36:14] <lblume> I've installed the latest patch, out on Friday.[15:36:22] <msm> I also tried the break point reading http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6309532.....but did not resolve...loops[15:37:30] <msm> From vista I created a partition called solaris and formatted ntfs. Now I am wanting to install using live cd. I hope it will not wipe out my vista.[15:38:10] <lblume> I've got write access on a directory by the group. It works fine without activating ACL support in samba. When it's activated, I can create and remove directories, and I can create and modify a file, but I can't remove that same file.[15:38:27] <msm> kernel line shows 2008.11 snv_101b_rc2 X86[15:39:41] <msm> any one got answer to get install working...[15:39:48] <nachox> lblume, http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/zfs-discuss/2007-September/042552.html have you seen this?[15:40:57] <lblume> nachox: Yes, that's how I got the smb.conf configuration.[15:41:30] <msm> hi guys...I think most of you have gone past install...any one had to work around the install loop problem...googling did not get me get around it...[15:42:58] <msm> I got new hp laptop and am wanting to install opensolaris on one partition that I created as NTFS in vista.[15:43:36] *** rtor- has joined #opensolaris[15:43:47] <Tusk2> why create ntfs FS ?[15:43:49] *** rtor has quit IRC[15:44:00] <Tusk2> just select the partition and erase it[15:47:05] *** rtor- is now known as rtor[15:48:28] *** throwt has joined #opensolaris[15:49:03] *** gerard13 has quit IRC[15:49:38] *** hsp_away is now known as hsp[15:51:57] <lblume> Hmmm, I guess that whatever the patch README says, the old bugs in the Samba code are still there. There's no relation between the ACL shown in Windows and what can actually be done.[15:54:54] *** codestr0m1 has joined #opensolaris[15:58:05] <throwt> anyone here involved with the test suite?[15:58:10] <throwt> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/testing/[16:00:50] *** rtor has quit IRC[16:03:49] *** codestr0m has quit IRC[16:03:56] *** randux has joined #opensolaris[16:04:08] <randux> i missed some important doc[16:04:29] <randux> i booted opensolaris 2008.11 and it goes to console login prompt[16:04:36] <randux> what should i do to get the installer?[16:04:55] <throwt> need to get to x first[16:05:18] <randux> i wanted console mode to do zfs root install[16:05:20] <randux> is it possible?[16:05:34] <throwt> os already does zfs root[16:05:40] *** codestr0m1 is now known as codestr0m[16:06:01] <throwt> unfortunately for now it requires formatting the whole disk[16:06:10] *** cypromis has quit IRC[16:06:12] <randux> ok, but solaris and express installer only does zfs root for text mode[16:06:18] <randux> fine, i have 2 drives to dedicate to it[16:06:29] <randux> what's root password for installer disk?[16:06:30] <throwt> thats good. os uses a different installer altogether[16:06:37] <randux> ok[16:07:09] <throwt> googling opensolaris root password says it's 'opensolaris'[16:07:17] <randux> thanks i will try[16:07:24] <throwt> but you cant log in as root, you log in as jack and pfexec bash if you want a root shell[16:07:39] <throwt> and password for jack is jack[16:07:57] <randux> lol yes i see i can't logon from root[16:08:04] <randux> now i am rebooting before i saw your msg[16:08:21] <nachox> os 2008.11 doesnt have a text installer i believe[16:08:24] <randux> why opensolaris doesn't have doc on installing? we are supposed to google instead of doc?[16:08:30] <randux> it says text mode on menu...[16:09:25] <throwt> why not have textmode?[16:10:23] <nachox> the text boot is used to disable happyface, the crappy thing that hides the boot messages[16:11:01] *** tosh has joined #opensolaris[16:12:06] *** rtor has joined #opensolaris[16:12:40] <randux> now i have nice desktop looks like gnome[16:12:45] <randux> i will try to install now[16:14:02] <randux> i hope the os will run faster than the liveCD![16:14:13] <randux> it's like a 386 with 4M of RAM :([16:14:33] <throwt> i agree somewhat, there's some issue... but livecds are slow generally[16:15:05] <randux> yes but wow[16:15:18] <randux> this is core 2 duo box 2.8GHz with 4G of RAM[16:17:35] <randux> how can i pick zfs root install?[16:17:44] <randux> i don't see any option for it[16:18:01] <throwt> there's no other option[16:18:07] <throwt> it's a zfs root install[16:18:07] *** sponix has joined #opensolaris[16:18:13] <randux> why can't i select both drives for mirror?[16:18:19] <randux> it seems it will install on only one drive[16:18:44] <throwt> that's correct[16:19:01] <throwt> i dont know why, other than it just doesnt support it (yet)[16:19:01] *** msm has left #opensolaris[16:19:12] <randux> there is no driver for my NIC[16:19:21] <randux> it's pain inthe ass realtek[16:19:24] *** art-vandelay has joined #opensolaris[16:19:27] <randux> any hope for this driver?[16:19:41] <throwt> what does the device driver thingy say? any third party driver?[16:19:46] <randux> no, nothing found[16:19:59] <randux> it shows an error and i can't search with no NIC ;)[16:20:07] *** LordIllpalazo has joined #opensolaris[16:20:38] *** Odin- has quit IRC[16:20:44] <randux> maybe i will buy intel pro/1000 and go back to solaris 10/08[16:20:56] <randux> i can't boot it except from grub command line[16:20:57] <throwt> is this for a server?[16:21:07] <throwt> cant boot osol?[16:21:08] <randux> well i want to create web server and development box[16:21:15] <randux> and later mail server[16:21:27] <randux> the installer for solaris and sxce doesn't install grub[16:21:38] <randux> i have to boot the dvd and use grub command line[16:21:46] <randux> maybe osol will install grub, that's what i am checking now[16:21:48] <throwt> it does install grub[16:21:53] <randux> which does?[16:22:06] <throwt> i installed solaris 10/08... uses grub[16:22:13] <throwt> sxce i installed uses grub[16:22:17] <randux> ok but it doesn't work in all cases, i found many problem reports[16:22:20] <randux> and no answer yet[16:22:28] <randux> installgrub fails[16:22:39] <Tusk2> with what?[16:22:40] <randux> it can't identify hdx from bios[16:23:59] <throwt> i didnt have an issue with a dell PE 2450, nor my x4200[16:24:32] <randux> thats good but it doesn't change the fact its not working for other ppl[16:24:57] <Tusk2> well i guess that most here have it working[16:25:04] <randux> also good[16:25:10] <randux> but for other ppl its not[16:25:29] <Tusk2> you tried installing in the grub shell?[16:25:41] <randux> yes, it doesn't work[16:25:58] <Tusk2> what's the error?[16:26:11] <randux> mismatched/corrupt stage1 stage2[16:26:37] <randux> i created post on forums.sun.com/thread.jspa?threadID=5364234[16:27:01] <randux> it's more info in this thread[16:28:32] <Tusk2> you checked your drives with seetools or such?[16:28:47] <randux> it's brand new box and the installation is complete[16:28:54] <randux> i can boot from grub command line and everything is there[16:29:01] <randux> zpool status shows everything is fine[16:29:11] <Tusk2> i have seen boot sectors defected on brand new drives[16:29:19] <randux> on two drives?[16:29:23] <randux> it can't install on either drive[16:29:24] <Tusk2> may happen[16:29:38] <randux> if I was the only one reporting it i would say maybe[16:29:43] <Tusk2> i'd check just to ensure that's not a hardware problem[16:29:55] <randux> i am checking now by installing opensolaris[16:30:04] <randux> in a few minutes i will see[16:30:12] <randux> he is now 92%[16:30:43] <Tusk2> ok[16:31:26] <randux> if it doesn't work i will install netbsd or openbsd[16:31:33] <randux> they are both very quick minimal installs[16:31:41] <Tusk2> as you wish :)[16:31:55] <randux> i mean to prove the boot sector is not a problem[16:32:02] <Tusk2> ah yeah[16:32:02] <randux> this box is meant to be a solaris box[16:32:20] <randux> i have some other systems on other boxes of course[16:38:19] <randux> installation finished with no error messages[16:38:26] <randux> and of course it doesn't boot anything[16:38:39] <randux> now i will check some other os.......[16:39:30] <Tusk2> ok[16:40:35] <Tusk2> did you try installing from the livecd or such[16:40:42] <Tusk2> not sure it's possible[16:41:08] *** codestr0m1 has joined #opensolaris[16:42:02] <randux> i downloaded the latest os which is 0811.iso[16:42:09] <randux> is there some newer? i also tried sxce[16:43:02] *** jstephan has joined #opensolaris[16:43:03] <codestr0m1> randux: until sun made the decision to add /dev /fart /burp and all these other authorities.. genunix used to respin the updates.. I'm working on packaging snv_107 now[16:43:17] *** codestr0m has quit IRC[16:43:18] <codestr0m1> , but it's not finished yet and I'm making a lot of other changes others may not want to have[16:43:59] <randux> my best option seems to buy new NIC and boot Solaris 10/08 from grub command line and leave it running[16:44:17] <codestr0m1> randux: could try belenix[16:44:32] <Tusk2> btw may you try to install grub from the livecd?[16:44:54] <randux> i tried installgrub from the single user shell and from the real system once i booted into it[16:44:56] <Tusk2> not sure that's possible but it could work from there[16:44:58] <randux> i didn't try from a livecd[16:45:12] <randux> its worth trying maybe[16:45:17] <Tusk2> i guess so[16:45:39] <codestr0m1> randux: didn't I mention to you yesterday to try from livecd?[16:45:47] <randux> i don't remember[16:45:51] <codestr0m1> and I swear I sent someone the rough instructions in pm[16:45:59] <codestr0m1> yes. that was you[16:46:02] <randux> i think you pointed to some doc and i didn't understand it[16:46:26] <codestr0m1> ok.. well it was rough, but the section on grub should have been understandable[16:46:38] <codestr0m1> if not I'll try to improve[16:46:58] <randux> some details are different from your system to solaris 10/08 i think[16:47:12] <randux> and im' not solaris guy so i can't see obvious prblems[16:49:09] <codestr0m1> randux: from the livecd.. mount your rpool[16:49:14] <codestr0m1> then do /zfsroot/boot/solaris/bin/update_grub -R /zfsroot[16:49:30] <codestr0m1> where the name of your rpool is replaced by /zfsroot[16:49:50] <codestr0m1> I can also help with mounting it[16:51:18] <randux> i prefer to do this with solaris 10/08 since both it and opensolaris don't see my NIC[16:51:30] <randux> i will have to install and come back later in the week and find you[16:52:24] <codestr0m1> randux: hopefully by the time you're back I'll send you a link to an iso and from there we can really debug something[16:53:02] <randux> thanks alot[16:53:20] *** sophokles1 has quit IRC[16:53:23] <randux> maybe we can even try from the solaris 10/08 system when i booted into it[16:55:50] *** oyvindje has quit IRC[16:57:01] *** ionstorm has joined #opensolaris[16:57:21] <randux> installing openbsd 4.4 amd64 now to test[16:57:27] <randux> i will reboot if booting works[16:57:39] <randux> and then i will install again on 2nd drive and test again[16:58:53] *** jaeyoung has joined #opensolaris[16:59:06] <w0rmDrink> Hi[16:59:17] <w0rmDrink> I have changed my c0t1d0s3 partition[16:59:22] <w0rmDrink> which is normally mounted to /var[16:59:39] <w0rmDrink> but now when i mount it the size in df -h still shows 70 GB[16:59:45] <w0rmDrink> where it is actually 6GB now[16:59:49] <w0rmDrink> how can i fix it ?[16:59:54] <w0rmDrink> so it shows 6GB ?[17:00:00] <randux> be happy with extra free space?[17:00:01] <w0rmDrink> do i have to relabel disk ?[17:00:06] <w0rmDrink> hehe[17:00:07] <w0rmDrink> funny[17:00:09] <randux> sorry[17:00:22] <w0rmDrink> no but really though[17:00:33] <w0rmDrink> would format -> label fix it ?[17:00:57] *** Teo` has quit IRC[17:01:15] *** art-vandelay has quit IRC[17:03:06] *** ionstorm has quit IRC[17:04:16] *** plavcik has quit IRC[17:04:26] <codestr0m1> asyd: you going to fosdem this year.. you're not too far from Brussels. right?[17:06:47] *** codestr0m1 has quit IRC[17:07:15] <w0rmDrink> i forgot newfs /dev/rdsk/c0t1d0s3[17:07:25] *** fredg has quit IRC[17:07:29] <throwt> are you sure you want to blow /var?[17:07:32] <w0rmDrink> but now, when doing a clean install[17:07:38] <w0rmDrink> yes, already backed it up ...[17:07:43] <w0rmDrink> its fine[17:07:52] <throwt> that's what you missed then[17:07:53] *** codestr0m has joined #opensolaris[17:08:00] <w0rmDrink> restoring backup ?[17:08:08] <throwt> newfs, then restore[17:08:56] *** jaeyoung has left #opensolaris[17:09:43] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[17:09:52] <Tusk2> hot shrinking is ok on ZFS ?[17:10:04] <throwt> shrinking pool or zfs?[17:10:22] <Tusk2> mmmh shrinking partition[17:10:42] <throwt> a pool uses a partition. afaik there's no way to shrink a pool[17:10:44] <w0rmDrink> meaning setting quota ?[17:11:01] <w0rmDrink> i think you mean setting quota[17:11:04] <randux> Tusk2: first drive checks out ok, i can boot new openbsd install[17:11:13] <randux> now i will install on 2nd drive[17:11:36] <Tusk2> ok randux you definitely have to try what codestr0m gave you from the livecd[17:11:48] <Tusk2> throwt: ok[17:12:33] *** dclarke has joined #opensolaris[17:12:56] <randux> i'm interested to try it from installed 10/08[17:13:00] <dclarke> can someone out there run a traceroute for me and tell me where it dies ?[17:13:12] <randux> because that installer allows zfs mirror root[17:14:23] *** bizkut has joined #opensolaris[17:14:28] <dclarke> never mind[17:14:34] *** dclarke has left #opensolaris[17:16:03] *** jpdrawneek has left #opensolaris[17:16:31] *** pawz has quit IRC[17:18:02] *** 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time[17:33:22] <randux> i know bleieve me[17:33:29] <Tusk2> then no luck for this[17:33:30] <randux> its PITA NIC[17:33:37] <Tusk2> deactivate it and at least have marvell[17:33:40] <randux> it works on all BSD and Linux now[17:33:43] <randux> what's marvell[17:33:45] <Tusk2> put*[17:33:50] <Tusk2> marvell chipset[17:33:57] <Tusk2> they at least support solaris[17:33:59] <Tusk2> :D[17:34:14] <randux> there is some japanese guy who wrote realtek drivers for solaris[17:34:21] <randux> i have to find how to get it to that box[17:34:45] <Tusk2> maybe easier to get a new cheap network card that is supported ?[17:35:11] <w0rmDrink> How do i unset SC critical alarm over alom ?[17:35:35] <randux> can i write the driver to a usb stick a mount it in solaris? what filesystem should I use?[17:35:44] <randux> i can pay 40 bucks for pro/1000 card also[17:35:49] <Tusk2> ;)[17:35:52] <randux> but it will take me more than one week to get it[17:35:56] <Tusk2> oh[17:36:10] <Tusk2> randux: the fat32 usb stick is fine[17:36:15] <randux> thanks Tusk2[17:36:23] <randux> ok first i will reinstall 10/08[17:36:28] <Tusk2> as every usb sticks should be to mount everywhere ;)[17:36:28] <randux> i'll come back later[17:36:35] <randux> thanks guys[17:37:35] <Tusk2> anyone is using ZFS cache with SSD drives? for which usage?[17:38:20] *** luc^ has quit IRC[17:39:15] <solaris_newb> actually this $4 nic works fine RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+[17:39:36] <randux> on which solaris are you running it?[17:39:38] <throwt> 8139................................[17:39:45] <solaris_newb> its only 10/100 but it works out of the box[17:39:50] <solaris_newb> 2008.11[17:39:57] <randux> hmmm its interesting[17:40:03] <endless> tusk2: no but im considering it[17:40:15] <randux> i have 8169 driver working in openbsd but this is for 8201/8111B[17:40:28] <randux> it should be similar but it doesn't get recognized[17:40:37] <solaris_newb> ohh that might be a different animal[17:40:39] <Tusk2> endless: for what kind of load?[17:41:33] <endless> well I would do it to understand how it works rather then performance, in my case i doubt it would make a difference[17:41:42] <endless> 8tb raidz2 array[17:42:04] <endless> nfs for esx clusters[17:42:57] <Tusk2> ok[17:43:19] <Tusk2> i'd love to see benchmarks of it[17:43:58] <endless> minute i would believe[17:44:14] <endless> what are you working on for a setup?[17:44:54] <Tusk2> nothing special i'm just curious[17:45:00] *** codestr0m has quit IRC[17:46:07] <Tusk2> i just don't see usefull - for me at least right now - usage of it, but i can imagine how i could be interessting in some particular read load and such[17:47:04] <Tusk2> seeing read/write benchs would be nice to prepare some solutions in case of ....[17:47:59] <jpd> Any ideas where to get a debug build of SXCE?[17:52:01] *** codestr0m has joined #opensolaris[17:52:28] *** xRaich[o]2x has joined #opensolaris[17:54:48] <throwt> I think prstat has a memory leak[17:55:14] <throwt> andy 10869 3482 2 Dec 21 pts/3 4427:11 prstat -Z -m[17:55:16] <throwt> 10869 andy 1 59 0 303M 301M sleep 73.8H 0.00% prstat[17:56:42] <CosmicDJ> hm for how long is it running?[17:56:54] <throwt> since dec 21[17:57:50] <bda> Yeah, it happens.[18:00:13] *** fredg has joined #opensolaris[18:00:32] *** randux has quit IRC[18:02:19] <jpd> did the osol beta/RC have kernel debug mode on?[18:02:28] *** syamajala has joined #opensolaris[18:03:01] <endless> i dont know if i want to try sxce[18:03:07] <endless> might f my boxen[18:03:27] <throwt> so could cosmic rays[18:04:08] *** taltamir has joined #opensolaris[18:05:33] <solaris_newb> any of you folks who are way smarter than I see what is going on here http://www.pastebin.ca/1324135[18:06:48] <bizkut> solaris_newb, you could try "gmake" instead[18:07:00] <solaris_newb> ok i will[18:08:44] *** Yamazaki-kun has quit IRC[18:08:47] *** steleman has quit IRC[18:08:48] <solaris_newb> ok i really got the same error[18:09:01] <throwt> that function just isnt defined like it says[18:09:17] <throwt> #[18:09:18] <throwt> SerialUlaw.cpp:229: error: `cfmakeraw' undeclared (first use this function)[18:09:46] <throwt> it's a linux api. http://linux.die.net/man/3/cfmakeraw[18:10:03] <solaris_newb> this is supposed to compile fins on solaris[18:10:16] <throwt> maybe it's a directive in ./configure[18:10:32] <throwt> http://www.sunmanagers.org/pipermail/summaries/2005-October/006871.html[18:10:33] <solaris_newb> gets over my head real fast[18:10:39] <throwt> ./configure --help[18:11:45] *** tombhadAC has joined #opensolaris[18:12:29] <pjfloyd> automake is total bollocks[18:13:08] <pjfloyd> it hardly ever works on linpox, yet alone any other platform[18:13:17] <throwt> linux?[18:13:34] <solaris_newb> okay now i have some things to look at[18:13:42] <pjfloyd> it's like pushing unit testing of C and UNIX conformance onto poor end users[18:14:44] <throwt> solaris_newb: are you k9wkj ?[18:15:26] <solaris_newb> yes[18:16:40] <throwt> http://wiki.netbsd.se/The_pkgsrc_portability_guide#cfmakeraw[18:17:42] *** randux has joined #opensolaris[18:18:14] <randux> hey codestr0m and Tusk2[18:18:20] *** teletubbie has joined #opensolaris[18:18:27] *** Yamazaki-kun has joined #opensolaris[18:18:27] <randux> i have some idea before i try to installgrub on this system[18:18:38] *** mikl has quit IRC[18:18:47] <randux> i will install 10/08 on a different box and see if grub will work[18:18:53] <solaris_newb> this is good i might get somewhere[18:19:00] <randux> then we only must get my screen resolution working[18:19:13] <randux> bevause it's 1680x1050 screen only works in 1280x1024[18:19:22] <randux> and i don't remember if NIC is recognized[18:20:24] *** Kernel86_ has joined #OpenSolaris[18:21:11] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[18:22:32] *** syamajala has quit IRC[18:22:33] *** Posterdati has quit IRC[18:23:03] *** Posterdati has joined #opensolaris[18:23:05] <throwt> http://www.nexenta.org/os/cfmakeraw[18:23:06] *** steleman has 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least that's how I solved the issue when I found this in a package)[18:37:16] <throwt> thanks anilg[18:38:01] <anilg> np.. this reminds to clean that page up a little[18:38:16] *** mega_ has joined #opensolaris[18:38:34] *** mega_ has quit IRC[18:38:39] *** steleman has quit IRC[18:39:08] <randux> sorry i am away for a bit[18:39:17] *** etech has joined #opensolaris[18:39:19] <etech> hi[18:39:20] <randux> i will come and answer you soon[18:39:37] <etech> are the packages tuxguitar and timidity in opensolaris?[18:39:58] <anilg> etech: AFAIK, tuxguitar is java[18:39:59] <Tusk2> did you checked on the package search pages?[18:40:12] <anilg> should work[18:40:24] <etech> Tusk2, no i didn't know it exists[18:41:20] *** steleman has joined #opensolaris[18:41:35] <etech> i'm a student, is opensolaris easy to use such ubuntu for multimedia and office?[18:41:53] <CosmicDJ> uhm... no[18:43:01] *** etech has left #opensolaris[18:43:35] <xRaich[o]2x> lol... classic :P[18:44:01] *** asarch has joined #opensolaris[18:44:32] <anilg> OTOH, it has come a long way the past year, so with a little coaxing it should do everything you can with Ubuntu[18:44:44] <anilg> etech: ^[18:44:59] <xRaich[o]2x> anilg: he's already gone ;)[18:45:00] <anilg> NM.. he left.[18:45:20] <anilg> a bit too late in saving him :p[18:46:19] <randux> tusk2 i have 2 boxes, if solaris 10/08 can install grub on the 2nd box without problems and if it can see my NIC then I am better off even though it has smaller drives[18:46:33] <randux> instaed of buying new NIC and fighting grub[18:46:39] <randux> i am installing now and i will test[18:46:51] <randux> if so i move freebsd to the other box[18:47:01] <Tusk2> non sense[18:47:05] <randux> what[18:47:10] <w0rmDrink> If I take a snapshot of say tank/opt - will it include tank/opt/folder1 also if tank/opt/folder1 is sub-partition ?[18:47:16] <Tusk2> if the line given solve the probem that's not fighting[18:47:33] <randux> hmm i spent few days searching and trying suggestions already[18:47:38] <randux> and it still doesn't see my nic[18:47:43] <randux> if this works i save 40 bucks on NIC[18:47:47] <randux> hows it nonsense?[18:47:53] <randux> unless you wish to pay for new NIC for me :)[18:48:18] <Tusk2> have you ever tried that famous japanese nic driver?[18:48:21] <randux> if i have same problem on this box, then i go back and get 1st box to work[18:48:29] <randux> not yet, but if this doesnt work i can try it[18:49:20] <randux> we will know about 2nd box in less than 1 hour[18:49:46] <Tusk2> ok man as you wish[18:49:52] <throwt> We have updated the OpenSolaris xVM gates to b106 and[18:49:54] <throwt> Xen 3.3.1[18:50:30] <Tusk2> next time randux think of not chosing realtek chipset for your sol installs ;)[18:51:13] <randux> i didn't choose it[18:51:18] <randux> LOL[18:51:23] <throwt> i'd recommend not choosing realtek, period[18:51:27] <randux> me 2[18:51:49] <randux> altho everything else does work on it[18:51:59] <randux> but i had to run latest releases[18:53:45] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[18:53:50] *** axisys has joined #opensolaris[18:54:05] *** Kernel86 has joined #OpenSolaris[18:55:43] *** Kernel86_ has quit IRC[18:56:36] *** Vanuatoo has quit IRC[18:56:38] *** codestr0m has quit IRC[18:56:46] *** gecjr has joined #opensolaris[18:56:54] *** Vanuatoo has joined #opensolaris[18:57:29] *** teletubbie has quit IRC[18:58:38] *** gecjr has left #opensolaris[18:59:24] <CIA-30> james north - Sun Microsystems - Austin United States <James.North at Sun dot COM>: 6797893 PCI bus count from BIOS induces infinite loop in pci_setup_tree due to uint8_t overflow[19:00:42] *** Yamazaki-kun has quit IRC[19:03:18] *** Yamazaki-kun has joined #opensolaris[19:03:48] *** Kernel86_ has joined #OpenSolaris[19:08:31] <jamesd> wow more than 127 busses on a single box? but unsigned 8 bits is 255 damm thats a lot..[19:12:35] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[19:12:54] *** Kernel86 has joined #OpenSolaris[19:13:28] *** Kernel86_ has quit IRC[19:16:35] *** starkmjolk has quit IRC[19:16:52] *** starkmjolk has joined #opensolaris[19:21:41] *** piwi has joined #opensolaris[19:27:25] *** TT has joined #opensolaris[19:27:53] <randux> ok grub installed and i can boot from this box[19:28:02] <randux> i will have to check the NIC now[19:28:06] <randux> system is coming up[19:30:22] *** kimc has left #opensolaris[19:33:29] *** cumulus007 has joined #opensolaris[19:33:35] *** cumulus007 has left #opensolaris[19:33:44] *** ubuntunl_135 has joined #opensolaris[19:33:59] <ubuntunl_135> hallo[19:34:06] <ubuntunl_135> ik ben een ubuntu-user[19:34:11] <ubuntunl_135> en ik heb een vraag.[19:34:14] <Tusk2> english please[19:34:20] <throwt> english bitte[19:34:26] *** codestr0m has joined #opensolaris[19:34:28] <ubuntunl_135> alright, sorry[19:34:37] *** anilg has quit IRC[19:34:44] <ubuntunl_135> i'm a ubuntu user and i hav e a quesstion.[19:34:50] <Tusk2> fire[19:35:21] <randux> codestr0m: grub installed ok on 2nd box[19:35:27] <randux> how can i try to enable my NIC?[19:35:37] <randux> ifconfig -a shows only lo0[19:35:50] <ubuntunl_135> i've got a new pc, just clean new harddisk no operating system just clean. now could i install opensolaris 2008.11 on my pc?[19:35:53] <tsoome> dladm show-dev and ifconfig name plumb[19:36:28] <throwt> ubuntunl_135: yeah. i would recommend it being a secondary os though[19:36:46] <randux> show-dev doesn't return anything[19:36:56] <throwt> phys?[19:36:57] <ubuntunl_135> could you say that different?[19:36:58] <tsoome> what nic it is?[19:37:02] <randux> ifconfig name plumb says name: no such file or directory[19:37:11] <tsoome> man ifconfig lol[19:37:16] <randux> rtl8169/8102C/8111B[19:37:16] <throwt> ubuntunl_135: give opensolaris 32gb and install ubuntu or windows for the rest[19:37:33] <ubuntunl_135> is it possible for just only opensolaris?[19:37:37] <tsoome> use google to find out if solaris got driver for it[19:37:50] <throwt> ubuntunl_135: yes of course... but i wouldn't recommend people doing it yet[19:38:46] <ubuntunl_135> it's my second pc, i'm 13, so my dad payed a old pc, i've fixed it, and i can do what i want, no important files or something. I've got also windows xp with my important files.[19:39:02] <ubuntunl_135> btw, why do you not recommend it?[19:39:24] <throwt> ubuntunl_135: it's just not ready (hardware and software) support to recommend using it as a primary os.[19:39:37] <throwt> but it doesnt mean you shouldnt install it[19:39:59] <ubuntunl_135> i'm going to install it anyway.[19:40:34] <ubuntunl_135> but i wanna know that. cous if you search google: opensolaris 2008.11 you see pictures with vmware player or something.[19:41:36] <throwt> you wanna know if it can be installed onto a pc? yes, it'll most likely work fine[19:41:40] *** asarch has quit IRC[19:41:54] <FrostCS> heh, been using sxce as a primary os now for just over 3 years, no problems here :-)[19:42:05] <ubuntunl_135> just 1 question: is it for a boy, a bit known of pc's, a good opperatings system?[19:42:13] <ubuntunl_135> allright:)[19:42:21] <tsoome> have had kist 1-2 gliches with sxce[19:42:24] <throwt> ubuntunl_135: if you're willing to put time into it, you can make a lot out of it[19:42:27] <tsoome> likeÄ[19:42:33] <xRaich[o]2x> i'm using 2008.11 as my primary os, also no problems. it really depends on what you want to do with it ^^[19:42:46] <ubuntunl_135> yes, i wanna make time for it, so it's going to be oke.[19:43:38] <ubuntunl_135> xRaich[o]2x: just see how it works. i want somethings different than windows or mac, something what a vew people have, so.[19:43:42] *** AxeZ has joined #opensolaris[19:45:02] <ubuntunl_135> has someone good pictures of opensolaris2008.11[19:45:34] <throwt> http://www.opensolaris.com/learn/features/whats-new/200811/[19:45:37] <smtms> ubuntunl_135, it looks like a Linux distribution[19:46:11] <xRaich[o]2x> you should use an operating system that does what you want to do. it's not a prestige thing, even though some people treat it as such[19:47:37] <ubuntunl_135> There are many themes available?[19:48:02] <throwt> it's gnome-based so whatever you can use with gnome works.[19:49:01] <ubuntunl_135> Okay, fine. thanks. I go. I let you know how it goes. regards[19:49:17] <throwt> themes, etc would be a good comparison between linux/osol vs windows, but regarding that stuff there isnt much difference between linux and osol... the difference lies further within[19:49:58] <ubuntunl_135> bye[19:50:02] <throwt> good day to you sir[19:50:03] *** ubuntunl_135 has quit IRC[19:50:38] <throwt> I still like the vista bar/win7 bar better than the gnome desktop that comes with ubuntu/osol[19:51:34] <xRaich[o]2x> kde4 has some good desktop ideas also[19:56:17] <throwt> I wish solaris could host vmware. xen just sucks too much right now to be productive.[19:57:07] <xRaich[o]2x> i wish vbox could run plan9 ^^[19:57:56] <Plazma> xRaich[o]2x, qemu can[19:58:53] *** randux has quit IRC[20:00:00] <xRaich[o]2x> yes i know. but i didn't play with it under solaris yet ^^[20:00:52] <fftb> 1[20:01:05] <throwt> 0[20:01:33] <fftb> hate this little keyboard :)[20:01:40] *** vertigo_ has joined #opensolaris[20:01:45] <throwt> (-:[20:02:31] <fftb> did you guys have some experience with plan9?[20:03:09] <xRaich[o]2x> just ran it inside of qemu some time ago. i like the idea about it[20:03:24] <xRaich[o]2x> inferno seems to go even further[20:03:58] <Plazma> i never got inferno to work even[20:04:00] <Plazma> on anything[20:04:10] *** gerard131 has quit IRC[20:04:15] <xRaich[o]2x> never tried it[20:04:21] <xRaich[o]2x> just heard about it[20:05:07] <fftb> Plazma: even virtualbox?[20:05:17] <Plazma> wat?[20:05:29] <xRaich[o]2x> virtualbox is pretty picky ;)[20:05:51] <fftb> sorry, i mean did you try to run inferno on virtualbox?[20:06:25] <Plazma> oh no[20:06:32] <Plazma> i never got inferneo to work in antyhing[20:07:34] *** tg has quit IRC[20:08:13] *** tg has joined #opensolaris[20:12:47] *** gehmehgeh has joined #opensolaris[20:13:10] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[20:13:42] *** Tusk21 has joined #opensolaris[20:16:20] *** gehmehgeh has quit IRC[20:16:25] *** gehmehgeh has joined 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i could be wrong[20:30:57] *** Tusk2 has quit IRC[20:31:09] <xRaich[o]2x> i think they also have a free developer version[20:31:14] <CosmicDJ> well, you can also get VMS for "free" ;)[20:31:28] <trygvis> oh, and AIX is something I want to try[20:31:33] <trygvis> AIX is probably even useful :)[20:32:01] <trygvis> their virtualization stuff look really sweet[20:32:13] <xRaich[o]2x> never got my hands one both of them ^^[20:34:34] *** kibibyte has joined #opensolaris[20:34:38] <kibibyte> hi[20:34:40] <kibibyte> i have question[20:35:09] <kibibyte> i need to add users to solaris but all of their logins must be numbers[20:35:11] <kibibyte> :d[20:35:15] <kibibyte> how to do it[20:35:16] <kibibyte> :/[20:36:13] <trygvis> that is an odd requirement[20:36:20] <xRaich[o]2x> is there a free version of AIX somewhere? i don't think so... but maybe i'm wrong[20:36:34] <trygvis> yeah, AIX is free for non-production stuff iirc[20:36:48] <xRaich[o]2x> uh nice :)[20:36:48] <CosmicDJ> really?[20:37:10] <CosmicDJ> well AFAIK it doesn't run on x86, so...[20:37:12] <dustman> lo[20:37:14] *** ninjaslim has joined #opensolaris[20:37:22] <xRaich[o]2x> too bad[20:37:24] <xRaich[o]2x> but well[20:37:31] <dustman> I'm trying to get my iwk0 up and running[20:37:38] <kibibyte> trygvis, i know but client wants it, user must use his national number[20:37:48] <kibibyte> its like social security number[20:37:56] <dustman> but ifconfig complains that "No such device or address"[20:37:56] <trygvis> and you can have a prefix on the users?[20:38:02] <trygvis> I'm sure it'll work if you add it by hand[20:38:13] *** ^authentic has quit IRC[20:38:25] <kibibyte> and since we are using secure global desktop there must be accout created in soalris[20:38:27] <dustman> isn't it not attached by default from the start?[20:38:44] *** ^authentic has joined #opensolaris[20:38:54] <nachox> it's ibm's hardware what's not free, and you need it for aix :)[20:38:57] <trygvis> dustman: not unless you have a hostname.iwk0 file[20:39:10] <dustman> trygvis: I created it[20:39:35] <trygvis> can you plumb the interface?[20:39:37] <xRaich[o]2x> nachox: so no aix for me ^^[20:39:40] <trygvis> ifconfig -a plumb should plumb all interfaces[20:39:41] <dustman> # ls /etc/hostname.*[20:39:41] <dustman> /etc/hostname.e1000g0 /etc/hostname.iwk0[20:39:58] <dustman> # /usr/sbin/ifconfig iwk0 plumb[20:39:58] <dustman> ifconfig: cannot open link "iwk0": No such device or address[20:40:09] <throwt> dladm show-dev[20:40:58] <CosmicDJ> kibibyte: so useradd complains?[20:41:35] *** authentic has quit IRC[20:42:19] <kibibyte> yeah about[20:42:22] <kibibyte> it need to have[20:42:24] <nachox> xRaich[o]2x, you only need to pay 5k for a small ibm power based server :P[20:42:28] <kibibyte> minmum 1 letter i think[20:42:34] <xRaich[o]2x> ^^[20:43:15] <dustman> throwt: doesn't return anything[20:43:47] <nachox> damn, they are expensive, you can get a t2 for that cash[20:44:05] *** authentic has joined #opensolaris[20:44:53] *** ^authentic has quit IRC[20:45:17] <dustman> ah, I enabled nwam, dladm shouldn't work I assume[20:45:42] <CosmicDJ> kibibyte: passwd(4), seems like you can't use num-only usernames[20:46:14] *** fredg has quit IRC[20:46:35] <kibibyte> yeah but o you have any document that number logins are unsecure or something[20:46:46] <kibibyte> then ill show them it[20:46:58] <CosmicDJ> hm, OTOH it just says "The login field must contain at least one character"[20:47:06] <solaris_newb> <anilg> Since the function isnt defined, you have to add the .c and .h file to the project, and rebuild[20:47:07] <solaris_newb> <throwt> solaris_newb: ^ okay i got the files but what now im about ready to go completly bald now![20:47:15] <CosmicDJ> char could be num_char or alpha_char IMH[20:47:16] <CosmicDJ> O[20:47:18] <tsoome> u wanna distiguish name frop uid[20:47:24] <kibibyte> CosmicDJ, i did but then they find out that i can use LDAP for authenticcation[20:47:27] <tsoome> from*[20:47:58] <dustman> so how am I supposed to plumb wireless if it is present (modinfo shows it), hostname.iwk0 is there and SUNWiwk is there as well?[20:48:21] <dustman> on osol it worked out of the box, but there's a problem on sxce[20:50:19] *** ^authentic has joined #opensolaris[20:50:50] *** Odin- has joined #opensolaris[20:52:41] *** indigoprime has quit IRC[20:54:24] *** ^authentic has quit IRC[20:55:38] *** ^authentic has joined #opensolaris[21:02:44] *** mgolisch has quit IRC[21:03:00] *** authentic has quit IRC[21:03:01] *** ^authentic is now known as authentic[21:03:19] *** Bril has quit IRC[21:03:55] *** Kernel86_ has joined #OpenSolaris[21:05:03] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[21:11:47] *** Kernel86 has joined #OpenSolaris[21:15:27] *** Kernel86_ has quit IRC[21:15:38] *** RULER_ has joined #opensolaris[21:15:44] *** Kernel86_ has joined #OpenSolaris[21:16:00] <kibibyte> i have ubuntu and it let me created user 12345[21:16:01] <kibibyte> :d[21:16:43] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[21:17:33] <CosmicDJ> kibibyte: well some solaris warnings are just... warnings, are you sure the 12345 user wasn't created?[21:18:23] <kibibyte> hold on ill check 1 more time[21:18:41] <bda> Solaris lets you create 12345, it just emits a warning.[21:18:42] <trygvis> you can also adjust what it allow and not[21:18:59] <Tusk21> btw this username sux[21:19:01] <Tusk21> :D[21:19:37] *** Catsceo has quit IRC[21:19:41] *** RULER_ is now known as Catsceo[21:19:51] <kibibyte> UX: useradd: 12345 name first character should be alphabetic.[21:19:51] <kibibyte> UX: useradd: 12345 name should have at least one lower case character[21:20:10] <kibibyte> :/[21:20:48] <kibibyte> bda ??[21:20:54] *** ionstorm has joined #opensolaris[21:20:59] *** Kernel86 has joined #OpenSolaris[21:21:21] *** Kernel86_ has quit IRC[21:22:17] <kibibyte> trygvis, ?[21:22:19] <Tusk21> you could try user "one2three4five"[21:22:20] <Tusk21> :D[21:22:23] <kibibyte> CosmicDJ, ?[21:22:42] *** Gekz has quit IRC[21:22:57] <Tusk21> sorry[21:22:57] *** The-spiki has 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A future[21:23:22] <kibibyte> Solaris release may refuse to accept login and role fields[21:23:22] <kibibyte> that do not meet these requirements.[21:23:27] <endless> anyone have a supermicro mobo?[21:23:27] *** Teo` has joined #opensolaris[21:23:42] <endless> not getting post and this hi/lo beep[21:23:49] <endless> reseated cpu 3 times[21:23:56] <endless> son'of'abitchy[21:24:50] *** lblume has left #opensolaris[21:30:12] <bda> kibibyte: http://pastie.org/376825[21:30:36] <bda> endless: I have quite a few.[21:30:43] <bda> If it's new the hi/lo might mean the CPU is too fast for the board.[21:30:48] <bda> Just had that happen to me. Annoying.[21:31:13] <kibibyte> :d[21:32:06] <Tusk21> supermicro still exists ?[21:32:17] <Tusk21> or is it old hardware[21:32:27] *** LordIllpalazo has quit IRC[21:32:28] <bda> They still exist.[21:32:30] <Tusk21> so long i didn't see a supermicro server[21:32:49] <Tusk21> they're more in US isn't it?[21:33:20] <Tusk21> ah maybe i'm mistaking[21:35:17] <endless> bda: can't be this should work[21:35:31] <endless> i have a pdmse+-o with a xeon 3110[21:35:36] <endless> that should match fine[21:35:37] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[21:35:37] <endless> wtf[21:36:09] *** Kernel86 has joined #OpenSolaris[21:37:16] *** w0rmDrink has quit IRC[21:40:39] *** bizkut has joined #opensolaris[21:42:53] <endless> fuck[21:43:02] <endless> cpu says fsb 1333[21:43:06] <endless> mobo says 1333[21:43:08] <endless> dont get it[21:44:32] <endless> bda: what board and cpu did you get the hi/lo alarm on?[21:46:42] *** z1nOnly_ has joined #opensolaris[21:46:51] <jpd> suse82[21:47:00] *** z1nOnly has quit IRC[21:47:16] *** taltamir has quit IRC[21:49:13] <bda> endless: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182105&Tpk=MBD-PDSME%2b-O with a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117174[21:49:31] <bda> This is according to their tech support and my jr admin. I didn't actually do the troubleshooting.[21:51:22] *** bizkut has quit IRC[21:51:58] *** hsp has quit IRC[21:53:25] *** The-spiki has quit IRC[21:54:49] *** jstephan has quit IRC[21:56:40] <bda> endless: Their support seems to be very good if you just want to email them and ask what's up.[21:56:54] *** _coredump_ has quit IRC[21:59:24] *** luke has joined #opensolaris[21:59:32] *** luke is now known as lewq[21:59:36] <endless> i got the wrong cpu[21:59:39] <endless> fsb is too fast[21:59:41] <endless> you're right[21:59:46] <endless> 1333 vs 1066[21:59:47] <endless> doh!!![21:59:49] <Tusk21> erf bad[22:00:21] <endless> bda: i got the same board[22:00:29] <endless> bda: which cpu did u buy for it[22:00:46] <endless> sorry i didnt see the other link[22:00:56] <endless> haha[22:00:59] <endless> got the same setup[22:01:07] <endless> nice[22:01:12] <bda> Heh.[22:01:16] <bda> RMA.[22:02:12] <endless> well i dont need to RMA it i need to return it[22:02:23] <endless> bda: did u build this system?[22:02:47] <endless> bda: i knew something was weird when it didnt sit right in the socket this is 45nm[22:02:52] <endless> vs 65nm[22:03:02] <Tusk21> lol[22:04:05] *** Kernel86_ has joined #OpenSolaris[22:04:43] <bda> endless: I didn't notice an issue with the CPU sitting, but maybe I was being oblivious that day. My coworker didn't notice that either.[22:04:56] <bda> He did notice the FSB difference, which prompted the email to their support, and the board getting RMA'd. Heh.[22:05:01] <bda> (we bought another SuperMicro board, though)[22:05:10] *** Kernel86 has quit IRC[22:05:22] <endless> yea everything is fine[22:05:32] <endless> i have nother 1333 mobo so i just tested the cpu in that[22:05:36] <endless> i get post bios[22:05:45] <endless> so ill use it for another machine[22:05:47] <endless> order a new cpu[22:06:11] <endless> kentsfield[22:06:14] <endless> quad core[22:08:01] *** jollyd1 has left #opensolaris[22:08:16] <trygvis> are there any tools on opensolaris for checking the fan speeds? (my box is a u40M2)[22:09:26] <jpd> prtdiag should tell you[22:10:31] <trygvis> nope, no fan info there[22:10:54] <jpd> wonder why they removed it???[22:11:15] <CosmicDJ> ipmitool?[22:11:44] <trygvis> I don't have a bmc device or a management card[22:12:05] <CosmicDJ> well then try the "screwdriver" tool ;)[22:12:21] <CosmicDJ> (+ eyes)[22:12:24] <trygvis> they're running, I can definitely hear that. just want to know why it is so damned loud[22:12:38] <jpd> either pm is broke[22:12:47] <jpd> or your to close to it[22:12:48] *** wurlitzer has joined #opensolaris[22:13:13] <trygvis> it is under my desk, but it is way louder than other u20/40s I've seen[22:13:16] <trygvis> s,seen,heard,[22:13:46] <trygvis> jpd: you sure you didn't mean prtpcl?[22:13:47] <trygvis> picl[22:14:19] *** kimc has joined #opensolaris[22:14:43] *** h3x has quit IRC[22:16:10] <jpd> no - it used to be in prtdiag - with all the other info[22:28:22] *** TT has quit IRC[22:29:18] *** mgolisch_ has joined #opensolaris[22:30:45] *** codestr0m1 has joined #opensolaris[22:32:55] *** SYS64738 has quit IRC[22:34:21] *** jpd has quit IRC[22:35:18] *** jgracin has joined #opensolaris[22:37:33] <eklof> Hi guys. I have a geforce 5200 and I think the opensolaris 2008.11 driver is for newser cards. I run completely without any 3D-drivers i think. How do I install the correct driver?[22:37:55] <Tusk21> get one from nvidia website?[22:38:02] <eklof> The xorg-log suggests 173.14.xx driver, but how do I find and install it?[22:38:03] <sickness> 5200 is so old that Xorg should automagically choose the right nv driver[22:38:14] <eklof> Is there a proper package for opensolaris?[22:38:20] <sickness> isn't xorg included nvidia drivers backward compatible?!?[22:38:27] <Tusk21> just a clue i don't know how osol manages old cards[22:38:36] <eklof> sickness: it uses the generic nv-driver[22:38:37] <Tusk21> sickness: i don't think so[22:38:43] <sickness> oh[22:38:48] <Tusk21> stil no 3d accel[22:38:49] <sickness> so I'm not updated on this issue[22:38:50] <eklof> desktop is sluggish and no acceleration at all it seems[22:39:02] <sickness> anyway, on www.nvidia.com there should be a downloadable package?[22:39:05] <Tusk21> eklof: you better get it from nvidia website[22:39:14] <eklof> Ok I'lll have a look[22:42:41] <eklof> http://pastebin.se/197203[22:42:54] <eklof> Any clues.[22:43:17] <Tusk21> you stopped X[22:43:18] <Tusk21> ?[22:43:50] <eklof> Oh... :([22:43:54] <eklof> it's getting late[22:44:08] <Tusk21> it should have asked you to kill X[22:44:17] <Tusk21> but you sometime crappy installer[22:44:40] *** fgd has joined #opensolaris[22:46:26] *** codestr0m has quit IRC[22:48:29] *** piwi has quit IRC[22:49:04] *** endless has quit IRC[22:49:50] *** Rarok has joined #opensolaris[22:51:54] <WhiteRabbit> has b106 been released to /dev yet ?[22:52:20] *** pjfloyd has left #opensolaris[22:58:21] <Tusk21> any nolife playing WoW trough wine on osol here?[23:02:05] <comay> WhiteRabbit, expect build 106 in the next day or so[23:02:28] <WhiteRabbit> ok thx[23:03:21] *** mgolisch_ is now known as mgolisch[23:03:25] *** syamajala has quit IRC[23:03:33] *** ninjaslim has quit IRC[23:03:38] *** cypromis has joined #opensolaris[23:09:16] *** codestr0m1 has quit IRC[23:09:36] *** fredg has joined #opensolaris[23:11:12] *** jgracin has quit IRC[23:12:05] *** AxeZ has quit IRC[23:13:24] *** Kathrin-24^away has quit IRC[23:16:49] *** syamajala has joined #opensolaris[23:20:41] *** sndcrb has quit IRC[23:22:23] *** GNUix has quit IRC[23:25:05] *** wims has quit IRC[23:25:24] *** wims has joined #opensolaris[23:29:42] *** Teo` has quit IRC[23:30:23] *** ionstorm has quit IRC[23:31:26] *** lesterc has joined #opensolaris[23:45:01] *** kim0 has joined #opensolaris[23:49:34] <throwt> not having a 3d driber isnt that bad[23:49:44] <throwt> its not great though...[23:52:44] <monsted> why would anyone care about a 3d driver? :)[23:53:44] <Tusk21> lol[23:53:58] *** medar has quit IRC[23:54:14] <throwt> in case you dont know, sun's marketing opensolaris as what ubuntu wants to be when it grows up[23:54:38] <throwt> although it certainly seems the other way around. either way, that would imply 3d as it's being suggested for desktop use[23:55:43] *** Wez has joined #opensolaris[23:56:14] <monsted> what does 3d have to do with desktop use?[23:56:53] <monsted> neither ubuntu nor opensolaris is much of a gaming platform[23:57:16] <monsted> actually, it annoys me that opensolaris installs so much gui junk[23:57:36] *** kohju is now known as KOHJU[23:59:54] <throwt> I like "gui junk" as long as there's a sane command-line way to fix things once the GUI fails to do what you need it to