March 29, 2019 
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March 29, 2019 [00:53:34] *** popgreeny <popgreeny!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has joined #openindiana[01:02:32] *** popgreeny <popgreeny!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[01:10:49] *** popgreeny <popgreeny!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has joined #openindiana[01:23:47] *** popgreeny <popgreeny!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:56:59] *** popgreeny <popgreeny!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has joined #openindiana[02:57:49] *** popgreeny <popgreeny!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:22:46] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@111.197.239.85> has joined #openindiana[04:08:56] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@111.197.239.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[04:31:48] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has joined #openindiana[05:00:04] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~matt@pool-108-52-159-210.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:25:11] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@114.252.44.76> has joined #openindiana[06:51:40] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)[07:53:41] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[07:57:44] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@114.252.44.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[08:05:59] *** retpoline <retpoline!~retpoline@gateway/tor-sasl/retpoline> has joined #openindiana[08:10:10] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@114.252.44.76> has joined #openindiana[08:16:18] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@114.252.44.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[08:36:44] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #openindiana[08:49:02] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@129.157.69.45> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:49:29] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@129.157.69.45> has joined #openindiana[08:49:29] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[09:12:08] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@114.252.44.76> has joined #openindiana[09:14:34] *** retpoline <retpoline!~retpoline@gateway/tor-sasl/retpoline> has quit IRC (Quit: quitting)[09:44:45] *** retpoline <retpoline!~retpoline@gateway/tor-sasl/retpoline> has joined #openindiana[10:10:27] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@114.252.44.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[10:58:43] <toasterson> Hmm I would like to unify that in illumos rather than leaving the whole excerise to everybody doing monitoring ever. Made a bug 🙂 https://www.illumos.org/issues/10603[11:22:24] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@220.249.55.50> has joined #openindiana[11:30:27] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@220.249.55.50> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[11:53:54] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@222.131.153.73> has joined #openindiana[12:00:58] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@222.131.153.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[12:33:13] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@222.131.153.73> has joined #openindiana[12:45:00] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@222.131.153.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[12:45:53] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@222.131.153.73> has joined #openindiana[12:51:01] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@222.131.153.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:31:45] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@222.131.153.73> has joined #openindiana[13:45:16] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@222.131.153.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[13:48:31] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@222.131.153.73> has joined #openindiana[14:03:47] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@222.131.153.73> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[14:20:53] *** retpoline <retpoline!~retpoline@gateway/tor-sasl/retpoline> has quit IRC (Quit: quitting)[14:21:07] *** Kurlon_ <Kurlon_!~Kurlon@98.13.72.207> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[14:24:39] *** retpoline <retpoline!~retpoline@gateway/tor-sasl/retpoline> has joined #openindiana[14:37:07] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[15:05:21] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[15:28:02] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@148-52-235-80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #openindiana[15:44:00] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[15:45:18] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[15:52:34] *** quartet <quartet!~quartet@2605:6000:1514:c01e:c4f2:b8fc:a2f6:8949> has joined #openindiana[16:18:37] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~matt@pool-108-52-159-210.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has joined #openindiana[16:33:18] <DrLou> Root pool wizards: is there a way to zpool attach a drive in a partition-non-aligned way?[16:33:43] <DrLou> IE, to map partition 0 onto the mirror drive’s partition 1?[16:34:30] <DrLou> ( cannot do any tests of this myself at the moment )[16:38:59] *** quartet <quartet!~quartet@2605:6000:1514:c01e:c4f2:b8fc:a2f6:8949> has quit IRC ()[16:45:20] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@111.196.20.179> has joined #openindiana[16:49:37] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #openindiana[16:50:13] <tsoome> if you do attach partition, there is no requirement to use the same numbers[16:51:00] <tsoome> for that matter, you can attach partition from the same disk (not that it would make any sense to do so)[17:12:32] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[17:19:20] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@111.196.20.179> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[17:23:33] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has joined #openindiana[17:23:53] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:40:27] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has joined #openindiana[18:12:51] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@111.196.20.179> has joined #openindiana[18:17:32] *** liuyb1 <liuyb1!~liuyb@111.196.20.179> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[18:26:43] <DrLou> tsoome - tks for the feedback. I must admit, that’s the one thing I haven’t yet tried.[18:28:10] <DrLou> my goal (remains) to mirror an rpool drive…[18:28:37] <DrLou> it does seem, though, that the zpool attach of an already-partitioned drive will change _that_ drive’s partitioning scheme de facto.[18:28:54] <DrLou> ( I didn’t know this, having never tried it. )[18:29:38] <tsoome> yes, but only when you use *whole disk* notation[18:29:53] <tsoome> if you provide the slice, then it will be used as is[18:30:07] <DrLou> beautiful; OK. will try.[18:30:33] <DrLou> Yes, I had been using the ‘s0’ syntax, not knowing any better![18:30:51] <tsoome> s0 is slice 0[18:31:10] <tsoome> and that is assuming you have prepared proper partitioning[18:31:32] <DrLou> of course; yes. But I had inferred that slice0 syntax was necessary for boot-ability[18:31:47] <tsoome> but, if it is dedicated disk, just chop off s0[18:32:18] <DrLou> I _had_ prepared, on the replacement drive, the ‘proper, blessed’ OI partitioning scheme for boot disk…[18:32:21] <tsoome> it used to be, but that limit was lifted some 3 years ago[18:32:50] <DrLou> in fact, had done a test install of OI on an empty disk for just this reason.[18:33:23] <DrLou> yes, part of my problem is that most doc on-line refers to ancient(?) history.[18:33:48] <DrLou> it’s update to most recent forth loader, etc, which has gotten us into all this...[18:34:26] <tsoome> actually the GPT whole disk boot was first done in grub by Woodstock[18:34:39] <tsoome> (unless my memory fails me:D)[18:35:24] <tsoome> but of course, from time to time some really old setups do pop up[18:35:28] <DrLou> I am using ‘whole disk’ approach, but remaining original rpool disk was probably set up ~ 10 yrs ago…![18:35:39] <tsoome> exactly[18:36:02] <DrLou> ‘whole disk’ is on s0, starting at sector 256, if this provides any insight![18:37:17] <tsoome> yes, we still do have partition table, that is unavoidable, but zpool status will not list s0[18:37:32] <tsoome> and actually with UEFI boot, the slice is s1:)[18:38:02] <DrLou> yes, I’m now getting a better handle on that, having looked at what new install of OI does by default.[18:40:35] <DrLou> so a zpool attach -f rpool c2t1d0s0 c2t0d0s1 oughta work? (after I change back the partitioning, of course)[18:40:44] <DrLou> where t0d0 is the ‘new’ disk.[18:41:17] <DrLou> what seemed weird to me is that attach seems to have _changed_ the partitioning already in place on disk. Expected?[18:41:45] <tsoome> which device name did you use?[18:42:02] <DrLou> the ‘s0’ syntax[18:42:17] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@134.19.177.18> has joined #openindiana[18:42:20] <tsoome> for second device?[18:42:39] <tsoome> as you use zpool attach rpool existingdev newdev[18:43:53] <tsoome> with ‘s0’ it will not touch partition table…[18:44:14] <DrLou> yes, used exactly that ‘structure’: zpool attach -f rpool c2t1d0s0 c2t0d0s0[18:44:58] <DrLou> newdev is t0d0 - and had to force as it had been the ‘rpool’ under my test install setup[18:45:19] <tsoome> you can verify this by prtvtoc /dev/rdsk/c2t0d0s0 before and after attach[18:45:21] <DrLou> 256MB slice0, rest of disk slice1[18:47:39] <DrLou> yes, prtvoc confirms the apparent change of partitioning table. It’s weird.[18:48:02] <DrLou> and seems to be at the bottom of the ‘incessant chatter’ problem I have on this one pool[18:49:49] <DrLou> tsoome - tks for your feedback. you’ve given me a couple of avenues of exploration.[18:49:58] <tsoome> t0d0 does definitely create new table[18:50:27] <tsoome> thats the idea there - you do not need to create anything yourself[18:51:21] <DrLou> ok, I’ll retrace my steps more precisely.[18:52:30] <DrLou> if I can attach a new d0s1 to the existing d1s0, this would solve the problem anyway - I’m hoping![18:56:01] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has joined #openindiana[19:24:20] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:25:11] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has joined #openindiana[20:07:19] *** sarvet <sarvet!~sarvet@dslb-092-072-009-068.092.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #openindiana[20:23:23] *** panorain <panorain!~panorain@68.65.58.198> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:36:46] *** amrfrsh <amrfrsh!~Thunderbi@134.19.177.18> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:42:36] *** retpoline <retpoline!~retpoline@gateway/tor-sasl/retpoline> has quit IRC (Quit: quitting)[21:54:38] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@bidd-pub-03.gwi.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:35:22] *** Kurlon <Kurlon!~Kurlon@98.13.72.207> has joined #openindiana[23:15:59] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)