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[00:02:23] <Dariusz> looks like I messed up something with my bounding box
[00:02:25] <Dariusz> https://pasteboard.co/H92fB8W.jpg ;- D
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[00:10:12] <Stragus> Dariusz: That would be a handful of microseconds
[00:10:37] <Dariusz> yep I had weird glitch, all good now, except for the bounding box :- )- jpg above
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[00:11:54] <DarkUranium> Dariusz, looks to me like you got the wrong order of vertices.
[00:11:57] <DarkUranium> try swapping two.
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[00:13:31] <Dariusz> which two?
[00:14:59] <DarkUranium> well, I dunno what order your data is in, so.
[00:15:16] <Dariusz> you mean the
[00:15:19] <Dariusz> indices and vertex?
[00:16:06] <Dariusz> im following this guide, https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/OpenGL_Programming/Bounding_box
[00:16:25] <Dariusz> but my bounding box is not " a box" it has weirdly positioned vertexes
[00:16:52] <Dariusz> the 4 on the left, are not properly calculated somehow
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[00:25:21] <Dariusz> hmm
[00:25:22] <Dariusz> almost fixed it
[00:25:26] <Dariusz> it was the way I generated box
[00:25:27] <Dariusz> hegh
[00:27:15] <Dariusz> yay my bounding box sorta works :D
[00:27:27] <Dariusz> why the heck is 2x the size of my mesh XD
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[01:01:18] <nogravityrush> ;p
[01:01:22] <nogravityrush> found it
[01:01:42] <nogravityrush> gldrawelements != glpolygonmode
[01:01:45] <nogravityrush> lulz
[01:02:40] <nogravityrush> i was using a glenum the wrong way
[01:02:47] <nogravityrush> now i got quads
[01:02:52] <nogravityrush> !bollocks
[01:04:33] <nogravityrush> ! == ^?
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[01:06:03] <Stragus> Quads are deprecated, removed and purged from the standard since 2008. You can still use them on some drivers with a compatibility context
[01:06:08] <nogravityrush> fixed
[01:06:20] <Dariusz> o.o
[01:06:40] <Dariusz> um, is there a super "easy" way of drawing just a "point" in openGL without having to make all the complex stuff?
[01:06:42] <Dariusz> (wow)
[01:07:08] <nogravityrush> gl1
[01:07:11] <nogravityrush> 1.0
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[01:08:00] <zid> I'm far too tempted to port this to modern opengl, someone talk me out of it :(
[01:08:43] <drewbarbs> dont do it zid
[01:08:53] <nogravityrush> ty three.js and saburo okita
[01:08:57] <Stragus> nogravityrush: Living in 1992, eh
[01:09:10] <derhass> those were the times!
[01:09:13] <nogravityrush> reliving sgi
[01:09:13] <zid> drewbarbs: phew, thanks
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[01:09:42] <Dariusz> lel
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[01:10:45] <nogravityrush> so
[01:10:51] <nogravityrush> one more thingy
[01:10:59] <nogravityrush> openframeworx
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[01:16:11] <chrisf> ?
[01:16:27] <chrisf> there didnt seem to be an actual question in there :)
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[01:17:41] <nogravityrush> webgl
[01:18:00] <nogravityrush> maybe i try to port three.js to ofx
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[01:31:26] <zid> I've found something more painful than designing structs for 3D games, reverse engineering them
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[01:33:29] <chrisf> painful?
[01:33:48] <AlexMax> designing structs?
[01:34:20] <AlexMax> how do you "design" a struct?
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[01:39:47] <davve> "Bad programmers worry about the code. Good programmers worry about data structures and their relationships."
[01:40:26] <derhass> bad programmers don't worry at all
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[11:17:18] <Stragus> What's the sanest way to update/draw every texel of a 3D texture prior to compute shaders? A full-screen glDraw to a FBO for every single layer of the 3D texture? A single glDraw() with layered rendering with a geometry shader to shoot a full-screen triangle to every layer? Something else?
[11:18:11] <Stragus> A compute shader with image load/store is of course the best solution, for GL 4.3+
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[11:25:48] <bookmark> hi
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[11:26:06] <bookmark> is it possible to overwrite a texture without chaging it's name/id?
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[11:26:45] <Stragus> You can update the pixels of a texture, you can ever reallocate its storage and format (unless immutable by glTexStorage)
[11:27:18] <bookmark> would i have to call glDeleteTextures and then glGenTextures>
[11:27:23] <bookmark> ?
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[11:27:36] <bookmark> because i'd really like to do is keep the name
[11:27:52] <bookmark> /id
[11:28:41] <bookmark> i guess those are the only 4 i really call glGenTextures on so it might be ok anyway
[11:28:41] <Stragus> No, you can update/reallocate an existing texture, like I said
[11:28:52] <bookmark> ok thanks guys
[11:29:01] <Stragus> glTexSubImage2D()
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[13:43:09] <snyp> Just for confirmation. If I can generate a single buffer and use part of it as an ARRAY_BUFFER and part of it as ELEMENT_ARRAY_BUFFER, right?
[13:43:15] <snyp> s/If//
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[13:44:42] <snyp> or is the type fixed for the whole buffer once you bind it to a target?
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[13:46:43] <zid> That doesn't sound like a thing but I don't know enough to say why
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[13:51:43] <snyp> Can alignment issues arise at all when I keep unsigned shorts for the element array buffer and then put vertex data (vector2's) right after it? I will not read the buffer, just provide inputs to shader attributes (not uniform buffers either)
[13:51:47] <snyp> ?
[13:53:27] <zid> is it even possible, does it work wrt the rest of the api, like giving it to glDrawElements with no issues?
[13:58:18] <snyp> why not?
[13:59:15] <zid> I'm asking you
[13:59:54] <zid> I've always just generated two buffers
[14:00:04] <snyp> I mean I can just set the offsets properly with VertexAttribPointer
[14:00:23] <snyp> (or BindVertexBuffer in gl >= 4.3)
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[14:15:49] <snyp> zid: can confirm, it works.. i was making a silly error in offsets.
[14:15:52] <snyp> _sigh_
[14:16:48] <zid> neat
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[14:32:49] <DarkUranium> snyp, you could put the element array buffer *after* the vertex data.
[14:33:02] <DarkUranium> since even floats are 4-byte-aligned, uint16s are always going to be
[14:33:06] <DarkUranium> unlike the opposite
[14:33:23] <DarkUranium> (though yes, you'd need a base offset then)
[14:33:32] <snyp> ah. yeah.
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[14:46:51] <nah__> if one redeclares gl_ClipDistance with a fixed size in vertex/geom shader, does one have to also redeclare it in the fragment shader (even if one doesnt use it there)? nvidia drivers seem to not complain about it, got some report back from someone using an amd card where it apparently does complain.
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[14:47:13] <nah__> i'm not completely understanding the part about it in the "Shader Interface Matching" in the spec.
[14:47:16] <nah__> "A link error is generated if
[14:47:16] <nah__> any statically referenced input variable or block does not have a matching output.
[14:47:16] <nah__> If either shader redeclares the built-in arrays gl_ClipDistance[] or gl_-
[14:47:16] <nah__> CullDistance[], the array must have the same size in both shaders."
[14:47:45] <zid> "link errors are errors"
[14:48:10] <nah__> not sure if that would imply that it must be redeclared in fragment shader too
[14:49:32] <nah__> and at the end of that paragraph there is some special case about fragment shader beeing involved
[14:50:10] <nah__> which sounds like an execption
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[14:51:29] <nah__> "At an interface involving the fragment shader stage, the presence or absence of any
[14:51:29] <nah__> built-in output does not affect interface matching."
[14:53:00] <nah__> also the http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#aboutchannels link in the notice is now 404
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[22:54:27] <Dariusz_> any1 has any experience with GL_INVALID_OPERATION error generated. VAO names must be generated with glGenVertexArrays before they can be bound or us
[22:54:27] <Dariusz_> ed. ?
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[22:57:04] <Stragus> You are trying to use an invalid VAO name. As it says
[22:57:13] <Dariusz_> I never made any vao names
[22:57:22] <derhass> see
[22:57:31] <Dariusz_> I used this QOpenGLVertexArrayObject
[22:57:41] <Stragus> Can't help with Qt stuff
[22:57:42] <derhass> oh no
[22:57:51] <derhass> not that Qt bullshit abstractions again
[22:57:58] <Dariusz_> lol
[23:01:16] <Dariusz_> why u dont like qt abstraction?
[23:02:08] <Stragus> It's pointless and puts a layer of limitation between you and the real API
[23:02:15] <Dariusz_> hmm
[23:02:56] <Stragus> And many OpenGL programmers with 20 years of experience here won't be able to help you with anything or understand your code
[23:03:08] <Dariusz_> mmm
[23:03:25] <Dariusz_> perhaps I should relook opengl raw api again then
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[23:11:34] <Dariusz_> its so we ird
[23:11:51] <Dariusz_> if I load mesh from file, all works, but if I add it programatically, it wont work when I redraw the window
[23:11:54] <Dariusz_> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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[23:14:39] <derhass> what's so weird about that?
[23:15:10] <Dariusz_> well I use the same node class to add nodes from file as I use when I add them programatically, so its weird that it works for one but not for other
[23:15:31] <Dariusz_> they both run thesame code, the only thing that changes are the vertex array data
[23:18:08] <Dariusz_> even more weird, when I click 1 time, it creates 1 "point", when I create node again, it created node as it should. Should I somehow clear the buffer or something in GL before adding new VAO ?
[23:18:15] <Dariusz_> it feels like he has some memory issue
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[23:18:40] <derhass> to me, it appears as if you have an issue with your GL state
[23:19:39] <Stragus> You would have more control and understanding of your GL state without abstraction layers
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[23:21:10] <Dariusz_> when we start application, we initialize openGL, create VAO, and then use paingGL(), to display content, if then we want to create another VAO and add data to display, do we have to do something ? Clear GL or put it to specific state?
[23:22:40] <Dariusz_> yea that seems to be the issue
[23:22:45] <Dariusz_> after I draw something, I cant re-add stuff
[23:23:30] <Stragus> Nothing special about creating more VAOs, buffers and drawing with them
[23:23:44] * Stragus blames Qt
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[23:33:52] <Dariusz_> hmmmmmmmmm
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[23:39:05] <Dariusz_> when you see this
[23:39:05] <Dariusz_> : Access violation reading location 0x0000000000000000.
[23:39:19] <Dariusz_> what can it mean in opengl case? o.O
[23:39:41] <derhass> the same as in every other case
[23:41:01] <Dariusz_> hmm
[23:41:07] <Dariusz_> maybe its the damn pointer that gets messed up again
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