February 24, 2017 
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the connection)[16:33:08] *** Murii_ <Murii_!~Murii@79.113.234.223> has joined #openal[16:33:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Murii_[16:43:27] *** Murii_ <Murii_!~Murii@79.113.234.223> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:44:27] *** Murii_ <Murii_!~Murii@79.113.234.223> has joined #openal[16:44:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Murii_[16:44:52] *** Murii_ <Murii_!~Murii@79.113.234.223> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:45:06] *** Murii_ <Murii_!~Murii@79.113.234.223> has joined #openal[16:45:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Murii_[17:32:06] *** Smirftsch <Smirftsch!~Smirftsch@p200300D7A3C12C00D52A89C6018F9895.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:33:06] *** Murii_ <Murii_!~Murii@79.113.234.223> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:34:01] *** Murii_ <Murii_!~Murii@79.113.234.223> has joined #openal[17:34:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Murii_[17:34:06] *** Smirftsch1 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sets mode: +v Murii_[18:14:00] *** SHC <SHC!~quassel@45.251.244.212> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:40:18] *** Murii_ <Murii_!~Murii@79.113.234.223> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:49:25] *** friedrich <friedrich!~friedrich@aextron.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:50:44] *** friedrich <friedrich!~friedrich@aextron.de> has joined #openal[18:50:44] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v friedrich[19:18:19] *** irungentoo <irungentoo!~irungento@unaffiliated/irungentoo> has joined #openal[19:18:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v irungentoo[19:34:20] <KittyCat> Murii, openal-soft needs to be built as a static lib, as it's normally shared[19:34:42] <KittyCat> iirc, you can't static link a shared lib[20:36:34] *** Murii_ <Murii_!~Murii@79.113.234.223> has joined #openal[20:36:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Murii_[20:40:59] *** irungentoo <irungentoo!~irungento@unaffiliated/irungentoo> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:43:53] *** maxfx <maxfx!~maxfx@2a00:1028:8b40:c6d6:58dd:8965:35c4:4bf3> has joined #openal[20:43:53] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v maxfx[21:21:47] <Murii_> how do you guys statically link openal?[21:21:54] <Murii_> in cmake[21:23:45] <jpernst> I was looking into this a while ago, but opted against it in the end on account of LGPL conditions[21:25:17] <Murii_> the problem is that if I move the executable and delete the location where the library has built the application will still try to search for it in that location[21:25:29] <Murii_> if I move the .a file it does not help[21:25:55] <Murii_> on windows I can fix this by putting the .dll near the executable[21:28:01] <KittyCat> I think if you link your app with -Wl,--rpath=$ORIGIN (making sure to escape the $ so it's not eaten by the shell or whatever), it'll look in the same place as the executable for libs[21:29:36] <jpernst> another approach is to just dlopen() it manually[21:29:41] <Murii_> I use -Wl but not the second part[21:29:50] <jpernst> althouth that would involve more refactoring[21:32:15] <Murii_> clang: error: unsupported option '--rpath=$ORIGIN'[21:32:23] <Murii_> is it because of osx?[21:32:48] <Murii_> I'm getting this error when linking libopenal.dylib[21:33:39] <KittyCat> maybe it's not supported on OSX. did you specify it correctly? -Wl,--rpath=$ORIGIN[21:35:01] <Murii_> http://pasteall.org/265295[21:35:03] <Murii_> KittyCat: yes[21:35:46] <KittyCat> there's an extra space in there. might be the problem[21:35:47] <jpernst> try removing the space between the , and -[21:35:57] <Murii_> ok[21:36:34] <Murii_> hm, it looks like it's very sensitive. anyway I get this: ld: unknown option: --rpath=$ORIGIN[21:36:41] <Murii_> so that means it's not supported on osx[21:37:06] <KittyCat> and you need to set that on the app that uses openal, rather than a shared lib (whatever is linking to openal)[21:38:18] <jpernst> hmm, the manpage for ld seems to indicate rpath only has one - instead of two[21:41:18] <Murii_> I'm not sure I follow Kittycat[21:41:23] <Murii_> KittyCat*[21:42:53] <Murii_> Ah, well the command you gave me is put inside the cmake of the app I'm building[21:43:07] <caedes__> OSX has something similar afaik[21:43:49] <Murii_> so at least --rpath should work on linux?[21:43:58] <Murii_> because I expect to have the same problem there too[21:44:46] <jpernst> it takes one hyphen instead of two, apparently, but yes[21:44:49] <Murii_> so basically I should use the RPATH correctly?[21:45:58] <Murii_> http://pasteall.org/265307[21:46:14] <Murii_> because in the first lines I got something with rpath but never knew that they do exactly[21:46:55] <caedes__> I have the following in a makefile for linux: -Wl,-rpath,'$$ORIGIN'[21:47:32] <caedes__> I think '' and $$ make sure make and/or the shell don't try to expand it ($$ escapes to $ or sth)[21:50:34] <caedes__> http://jorgen.tjer.no/post/2014/05/20/dt-rpath-ld-and-at-rpath-dyld/ has information for both Linux and OSX, Murii_[21:50:44] <Murii_> thanks[21:52:04] <caedes__> you're welcome[22:52:46] <Murii_> so I end up doing: make install and that helped[22:52:50] <Murii_> at least on osx[22:53:01] <Murii_> got to check on linux too[23:05:14] <Murii_> I just realised that this is not a good solution because I can't make everyone compile my project when they want to run it[23:18:00] <KittyCat> the $ORIGIN/@executable_path thing is handled at runtime. it'll use whatever path the executable is in when run, regardless of where it was built[23:35:42] *** Murii_ <Murii_!~Murii@79.113.234.223> has quit IRC ()