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[14:52:20] <dxtr> Can I tell a zfs pool to *never* automount?
[14:54:07] <lotheac> you can tell datasets to do that (mountpoint=legacy or canmount=noauto)
[14:54:27] <dxtr> My problem is that I'm sending snapshots to a disk (with -R) and it inherits all the flags
[14:54:32] <lotheac> pool-wide i think you need to pass a flag to import if you want to not mount stuff
[14:54:46] <lotheac> zpool import -N
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[14:54:58] <dxtr> Yeah I know that one
[14:55:20] <dxtr> Problem is that I still want it automatically imported
[14:55:28] <dxtr> Can I tell the os to import it with -N?
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[14:56:10] <lotheac> you can set canmount=noauto on all datasets (or just the toplevel ds, and let it be inherited). don't think you can pass -N for automatic import
[14:59:54] <dxtr> Oh, I can set the flag with zfs snapshot perhaps?
[15:00:07] <dxtr> zfs snapshot -r -ocanmount=noauto pool/dataset@foo
[15:01:18] <dxtr> "this property can not be modified for snapshots"
[15:01:56] <lotheac> hm - so you want to prevent *snapshot* mounting on .zfs/snapshot/? i misunderstood
[15:03:40] <lotheac> but yeah canmount is only valid for filesystems
[15:05:18] <lotheac> if your problem is that received filesystems get mounted (and you don't want that) then it might be possible to set the canmount=noauto on the top level ds into which you are receiving the children -- then they will inherit that prop (unless it was also set in send stream, because you're using -R)
[15:05:55] <lotheac> or, you can use zfs receive -o canmount=noauto -- i didn't realize that feature existed already
[15:06:53] <dxtr> oh neat
[15:07:05] <dxtr> And no, I don't care about .zfs/snapshot really
[15:07:21] <dxtr> I just don't want the datasets on the receiving disk to be automatically mounted on reboot
[15:09:03] <dxtr> Also, receive -o does other things
[15:09:16] <dxtr> Forces the stream to be received as a clone of the given snapshot.
[15:09:37] <lotheac> argh pardon me i was reading the zfsonlinux manpage. too many different systems around here
[15:10:32] <dxtr> hehe
[15:10:46] <lotheac> they have: zfs receive [-Fnsuv] [-o origin=snapshot] [-o property=value] [-x property] filesystem|volume|snapshot
[15:11:07] <lotheac> https://www.illumos.org/issues/2745
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[15:14:46] <dxtr> So I'm guessing what I have to do is let the child datasets inherit canmount from the root, change the root to noauto, snapshot, set canmount to on, send the snapshot?
[15:17:33] <dxtr> 'canmount' property cannot be inherited
[15:17:34] <dxtr> ...
[15:17:48] <dxtr> I'm out of ideas now
[15:19:18] <dxtr> and ofcourse zfs set can't do it recursively :D
[15:23:10] <lotheac> oh, i thought it was inheritable. but i think at my previous place of employment we set mountpoint=legacy on the top-level ds under which we'd receive things
[15:24:12] <lotheac> so things that inherit mountpoint would stay unmounted. but i guess there's a problem there still if the mountpoint prop is set in stream (zfs recv -u helps to not mount it immediately but i guess it could happen on boot)
[15:34:39] <dxtr> Okay so setting mountpoint actually seems to work
[15:35:49] <lotheac> nowadays i just try to avoid send -R, it's been on the scene of too many issues for me :)
[15:36:09] <dxtr> right
[15:36:18] <lotheac> it's not fun to fail the entire send of thousands of filesystems because one of them failed to receive
[15:36:33] <dxtr> The alternative is to send the snapshots individually, right?
[15:36:36] <lotheac> (and it's a bad idea to have thousands of filesystems in the first place...)
[15:36:44] <lotheac> yeah. znapzend does that automatically with --recursive
[15:37:11] <lotheac> it'll be slower but the failure modes are much nicer (and it's not a problem if you have a reasonable amount of datasets)
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[17:15:39] <sjorge> Hey guys, looks like pkg.omniosce.org's bloody repo is broken again
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[18:32:40] <v_a_b1> sjorge Just did a pkgrecv -m latest ... seemed to work. What is the problem?
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[19:34:39] <sjorge> On bloody ‘pkg search’ return nothing. Can’t install any packages either. Web interface also throws 404’s
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[19:41:28] <v_a_b1> Web @ https://pkg.omniosce.org/bloody/core/en/index.shtml works fine for me.
[19:41:57] <v_a_b1> I do see that pkg search -r does not return anything. Maybe the index needs to be rebuilt...
[19:43:10] <andyf> sjorge - we completely rebuilt it from the latest version this afternoon so it was offline for a bit
[19:43:16] <andyf> we do that every couple of weeks
[19:44:01] <andyf> I've just kicked off a re-index although that should have been done automatically
[19:46:04] <andyf> Bloody now has KPTI & bhyve
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[21:51:38] <sjorge> andyf: cool, updating my bhyve omniosce bloody instance then :)
[21:51:49] <sjorge> Although it dies pretty quickly on network IO :(
[21:51:59] <sjorge> iperf3 (server in vm) kills it withing 10 seconds
[21:53:12] <sjorge> wow it got stuck on pkg refresh too
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