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[02:11:41] <danmcd> If you're on r151020 or bloody, update your bash!
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[16:48:57] <wca> Hello, anyone working on or familiar with omniti-labs/jlog here?
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[16:50:32] <danmcd> Not me, but I'm pinging in-house.
[16:51:43] <danmcd> Not seeing much from my pings. What's the problem?
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[16:52:25] <wca> Just wondered how to ensure writes are persistent as soon as they complete
[16:53:19] <wca> In the sense that if the application crashes, reading the journal at next start will find that data
[16:53:27] <wca> crashes immediately after the write finishes, say.
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[16:56:58] <wca> wondering if, for example, the jlog safety needs to be JLOG_SAFE before initing
[16:57:25] <postwait> Depends on your safety requirements.
[16:57:35] <postwait> No one I know runs it that way
[16:58:01] <postwait> If you box has an outage and you're looking to have up-to-the record recovery and can assume that your box will always come back up.
[16:58:08] <postwait> Then SAFE might be useful (but slow)
[16:58:27] <postwait> if you are trying to protect against process failure.. then use the precommit buffer and you don't need safety set.
[16:59:14] <postwait> precommit uses a mmap'd segment, so if your process (only) crashes, it will get written back.
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[17:00:39] <wca> postwait: ok. that doesn't protect against power loss, but I suppose there are other ways to address that.
[17:01:14] <postwait> It doesn't protect against drive failure or bad ram either. :-)
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[17:01:53] <postwait> usually, if we're in the realm of not trusting the hardware or the kernel to stay working, we enter the realm of multi-machine safety requirements.
[17:02:01] <postwait> (at least where we stand here)
[17:03:52] <wca> Thanks for your time, I think I know what I need to do.
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[18:29:29] <ENOMAD> The cost of 9999 uptime = the cost of 999 uptime squared.
[18:29:50] <ENOMAD> this is how you "protect" against those issues... to some extent.
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