January 31, 2018 
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January 31, 2018 [00:02:52] *** jollyd <jollyd!~alarcher@188.113.95.225> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:29:53] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has joined #oi-dev[01:01:30] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:01:22] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg015-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:01:40] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg015-o.oracle.com> has joined #oi-dev[02:01:40] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[02:40:27] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@229-23-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:58:06] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #5127: SUCCESS in 1 hr 52 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/5127/[02:58:53] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p57A27CAF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[03:00:57] *** v_a_b1 <v_a_b1!~volker@p57A27A48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:05:50] *** pjama1 <pjama1!~arnoldp@c211-31-53-64.kelvn3.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #oi-dev[04:05:57] *** pjama1 <pjama1!~arnoldp@c211-31-53-64.kelvn3.qld.optusnet.com.au> has left #oi-dev[04:17:32] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@229-23-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[06:16:46] *** p7mo_ <p7mo_!~pmo@ricasa01.informatik.uni-bremen.de> has joined #oi-dev[06:17:10] *** p7mo <p7mo!~pmo@ricasa01.informatik.uni-bremen.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:38:06] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #oi-dev[07:44:13] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3780: FAILURE in 1 hr 28 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3780/[08:03:20] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@176.212.32.36> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:09:06] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[08:17:19] *** freedomrun <freedomrun!~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun> has joined #oi-dev[08:17:25] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[08:25:45] <oibot> Yippee, build fixed![08:25:45] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3781: FIXED in 23 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3781/[08:43:58] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@98.4.150.83.dyn.dsl.as8758.net> has joined #oi-dev[08:50:15] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[09:11:55] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #oi-dev[09:15:55] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3782: SUCCESS in 20 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3782/[09:30:57] *** kohju <kohju!~kohju@gw.justplayer.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:31:41] *** kohju <kohju!~kohju@gw.justplayer.com> has joined #oi-dev[09:31:41] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kohju[09:32:33] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@229-23-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[09:33:25] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!mnowak_@nat/suse/x-gejbhnlhnpnpunor> has joined #oi-dev[09:44:31] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:44:48] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[09:47:12] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@229-23-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[09:47:19] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #oi-dev[09:58:35] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@229-23-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:08:02] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[10:17:49] *** freedomrun <freedomrun!~freedomru@unaffiliated/freedomrun> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:10:33] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[11:18:43] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@185.39.197.205> has joined #oi-dev[11:42:41] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@185.39.197.205> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:42:53] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@185.39.197.205> has joined #oi-dev[12:16:26] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@31.7.243.238> has joined #oi-dev[12:23:33] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #oi-dev[12:25:32] <nikolam> why ' pkg set-publisher -g https://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster " says "framework error: code: E_SSL_CACERT (60) reason: SSL certificate problem: certificate expired "[12:25:56] <alp_> because cert is expired[12:26:01] <nikolam> Seems like pkg.openindiana.org certificate has not been renewed[12:26:15] <nikolam> right. What's procedure for this[12:27:36] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[12:29:01] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@31.7.243.238> has joined #oi-dev[12:33:43] <xenol> I will refresh when i come home[12:34:32] <xenol> though, it should happen automatically from cron, something had to change :/[12:59:08] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@138.103.235.80.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[13:00:01] <MarcelT> is there a workaround for pkg to ignore the expired cert?[13:03:48] <nikolam> yes, use http one[13:10:48] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[13:12:14] <nikolam> ' pfexec pkg update -v -r --require-new-be' gave me " pkg: '/sbin/bootadm update-archive -R /tmp/tmpyBx1K4' failed. with a return code of 1. "[13:12:14] <nikolam> but after, ' pfexec beadm mount openindiana-100 /mnt ' and ' pfexec /mnt/sbin/bootadm update-archive -R /mnt ' it it did update /mnt//platform/i86pc/boot_archive and /mnt//platform/i86pc/amd64/boot_archive[13:13:57] *** tsoome_ <tsoome_!~tsoome@90.191.113.13> has joined #oi-dev[13:17:09] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@138.103.235.80.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:17:09] *** tsoome_ is now known as tsoome[13:30:00] <tsoome> nikolam: as always, there is “but”.[13:30:40] <nikolam> so you think that after reboot and next udate it would update it right, on next upodate?[13:31:21] <nikolam> without doing it manually[13:31:22] <tsoome> that too, the but is about, how old is your current BE?[13:33:17] <nikolam> aha yes, but but seems it had osnet-incorporation frozen for some reason, so unfreezed it. it was osnet 0.5.11-2017.0.0.16350 old[13:37:42] <tsoome> the error you got sounds like it did not like the fact the 32-bit files are missing, but recent enough bootadm should be able to cope with that fact - so the guess is that your BE is old enough to miss bootadm update which did fix that issue. The secondary issue is that IPS should enforce version barriers in such case[13:38:40] <tsoome> the current repo is assuming you update often and keep yourself close to latest version[13:41:13] <nikolam> ok, important is that on next update it would do it right and won't put up error again.[13:42:28] <nikolam> Otherwise to updating frequently, yes, only alternative is maintained release, but it boils to the same.[14:02:02] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:04:07] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:1618:b200:1c64:91b8:1cd1:d3d5> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:04:14] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #oi-dev[14:06:29] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:1618:b200:1c64:91b8:1cd1:d3d5> has joined #oi-dev[14:07:29] <nikolam> tsoome, I just got the same message on relatively recent BE, but while updating using pkg -R /mountpoint[14:10:22] <nikolam> https://bpaste.net/show/2107ff19d47c[14:22:57] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@90.191.113.13> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[14:26:08] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[14:43:55] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[14:48:05] <xenol> MarcelT: not right now, I will be at home around 5pm, I will refresh the cert[14:48:12] <xenol> until then you will need to wait[14:48:17] <xenol> I am sorry for troubles.[14:49:21] <xenol> I wonder if the change has to do something with LE moving their API to different path[14:50:03] <xenol> but that shouldn't be a problem as /v1 path is working fine in other place[14:50:10] <xenol> either way, I will know more when I log in[15:01:17] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@31.7.243.238> has joined #oi-dev[15:42:45] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:1618:b200:1c64:91b8:1cd1:d3d5> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:43:07] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:1618:b200:1c64:91b8:1cd1:d3d5> has joined #oi-dev[15:44:02] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:52:32] <alp_> alarcher, xenol : do you like https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/3943 ?[15:53:05] <xenol> I will review when I come home[16:03:30] *** kohju <kohju!~kohju@gw.justplayer.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:09:45] *** kohju <kohju!~kohju@gw.justplayer.com> has joined #oi-dev[16:09:45] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kohju[16:15:36] <jacobs> alp_, do you want me to but the pkg-config revision twice or merge the two changesets?[16:16:06] <jacobs> ^but^bump^[16:17:36] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@111.29.68.168> has joined #oi-dev[16:17:41] <alp_> Don't care much. COMPONENT_REVISION bump serves two purposes: modifying Makefile, so that jenkins sees that something is changed and modifying final package version, so that we can find out, what current code is installed on user system if there's a bug report against package[16:19:28] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@111.29.68.168> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:53:04] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:53:21] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3783: SUCCESS in 22 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3783/[16:56:10] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #oi-dev[17:25:45] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!mnowak_@nat/suse/x-gejbhnlhnpnpunor> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[17:31:30] <xenol> MarcelT: cert replaced[17:44:33] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[18:07:17] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@176.212.32.36> has joined #oi-dev[18:14:52] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:17:53] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@98.4.150.83.dyn.dsl.as8758.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[19:02:10] <leoric> alarcher: hey, I have a fix for you[19:02:57] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has joined #oi-dev[19:31:39] <leoric> and you will not like it[19:31:42] <leoric> but it works[19:45:09] <leoric> jollyd|alarcher: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/3946/files - perhaps you could pick it up for gcc-6 branch, perhaps we should patch ruby to add rpath to GCC_ROOT/lib and use gcc 6 as default compiler[19:48:20] <alarcher> leoric: I used similar trick for augeas but sed %%CC%% to $(CC) as prep action[19:48:42] <alarcher> leoric: your version looks nicer[19:49:47] <alarcher> leoric: I could not find where rake picks the compiler from[19:50:06] <leoric> /usr/ruby/2.2/lib/ruby/2.2.0/i386-solaris2.11/rbconfig.rb[19:50:14] <alarcher> in general I feel like these abstractions layer can be more of a nightmare then a benefit[19:50:15] <alarcher> ...[19:50:22] <alarcher> than[19:50:23] <alarcher> ffs[19:50:53] <alarcher> I should stop reading twitter feeds, my brain picks bad gimmicks[19:50:53] <leoric> we likely want ruby to use GCC 6 by default[19:50:58] <alarcher> yes[19:51:40] <leoric> as if it uses /usr/bin/gcc and then removes runath with explicitly set own flag, results will be strange[19:51:56] <leoric> (as /usr/bin/gcc is mediated)[19:52:26] <alarcher> I like this type of "let me be smarter than you" tools[19:53:03] <leoric> what should we look at to finish with gcc-6?[19:53:42] <alarcher> the short list is clutter-gst getting a segfault from libgsttheora.so and boost not linking correctly[19:54:05] <alarcher> but most likely we could look at what jperkin did on boost 1_66_0[19:54:37] <leoric> this means ensuring that everything at least builds with boost 1.66[19:55:03] <alarcher> this should not be a problem and there are very few deps[19:55:07] <leoric> and boost is a build-time dependency, we have no easy way to identify it[19:55:24] <alarcher> there is a list I gathered some time ago[19:56:04] <leoric> add 'patch rubys' to the list :)[19:56:11] <alarcher> yup[19:56:41] <leoric> I can look at ruby tomorrow[19:58:49] <alarcher> I will build today's batch and go home, I need to fix some parallel algorithm issues for the startup in the coming days: most likely my brain will melt, so I will only be able to perform braindead tasks for OI...[20:00:11] <alarcher> with my luck my second thinkpad adapter will catch fire tonight[20:01:43] <alarcher> leoric: too bad we do not have a sparc port I actually have a case study that involves lots of threads ;)[20:01:46] <alarcher> :P[20:02:22] <leoric> no, thanks[20:02:30] <alarcher> just teasing ;)[20:03:42] <alarcher> pity that T2s suck at FP, could have done some nice linear algebra stuff[20:04:31] <nikolam> There's one SPARC T2 here with Opensolaris, could be possible to pierce firewall to access it.[20:05:38] <nikolam> 64 threads 32GB[20:06:34] <nikolam> Solaris abandons support for anything under T4 in S11.4[20:06:56] <leoric> use netbsd...[20:07:04] <alarcher> nikolam: that could have been nice, just hard to find time for anything lately :S[20:07:05] <nikolam> there's dilos.[20:09:05] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!uid278835@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-krobeovlcolprhcs> has joined #oi-dev[20:09:08] <alarcher> I saw alanc's post on twitter with an old prototype of T-based workstation, looked yummy[20:09:56] <richlowe> sorta seems like it'd be frustrating as hell[20:10:18] <alarcher> like have loads of core that cannot run anything?[20:10:31] <richlowe> well, I haven't yet reached the point where nostalgia for sparc workstations is a thing.[20:10:49] <richlowe> at least, ones not being used basically as X terminals[20:11:19] <richlowe> a little SPARC-y NUC would have been fun, back in the day.[20:11:20] <alarcher> oh well I had an Ultra 60 during eng school, it was very nice[20:11:26] <jimklimov> We have arrived (or rather landed)! Anyone for an evening stroll or a beer in a couple of hours? We'll be at Place Loix initially ;)[20:11:36] <richlowe> alarcher: how long ago was that, though?[20:12:03] <alarcher> 2004-2007[20:12:42] <xenol> back[20:12:57] <alarcher> I could not afford a computer and got it 2nd hand for 90euros[20:13:18] <richlowe> I'm going to assume you're a much more patient person than I am, then :)[20:13:20] <jimklimov> xenol: are you in Bru already? ;)[20:13:30] <xenol> why do you need a personal computer, when you have access to a supercomputer? :D[20:13:33] <richlowe> alarcher: oh, that's a different matter.[20:13:35] <xenol> jimklimov: no, on friday[20:13:46] <xenol> jimklimov: you?[20:14:15] <alarcher> richlowe: bah this was a 2x450MHz USII with 2GB RAM, not the fastest but decent[20:14:35] <jimklimov> See above :)[20:14:47] <jimklimov> Tldr yes :)[20:16:08] <alarcher> richlowe: that was maybe the only U60 in the world with a USB2 PCI card and a 5.1 soundcard :P[20:17:01] <alarcher> and SPDIF did work on Debian so I could move music to my mini-disc :P[20:17:11] <jimklimov> ;p[20:22:11] <alarcher> the SGI O2 was quite nice as well...[20:23:11] <alarcher> the main regret back then was not being able to run a pair of Origin 200 with the Cray link[20:23:27] <alarcher> never been able to figure out how to make that work[20:23:36] <Agnar> I still miss my Octane[20:23:40] <alarcher> and then one PSU exploded[20:23:41] <alarcher> ...[20:23:45] <Agnar> sold it years ago[20:28:37] <alarcher> Agnar: were you lucky enough to have R12K or R14K cpus?[20:29:45] <Agnar> no, I had an Octane, not Octane2. Dual R10k 195MHz, SI gfx, 512MB Memory[20:30:27] <Agnar> they are expensive on ebay liek crazy these days[20:33:29] <alarcher> Agnar: a friend of mine has a mini-cluster of 4 Origin 3000... cpu and memory modules are crazy expensive[20:33:43] <Agnar> wow[20:35:44] <alarcher> leoric: have you rebuilt qt4 with gcc 6 after your fix?[20:40:36] <alarcher> for scientific computing the latest AMD looks nice even if Intel has an edge with simd[20:41:04] <jacobs> Ok, not being a git poweruser, can I push recommitted changesets back up to my github repo after I have pushed the original version?[20:41:31] <leoric> alarcher: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/commit/91de5e93f13ab02fd53c92f5a69bec240c5fb313 ?[20:41:40] <jimklimov> git push -f origin[20:41:58] <jacobs> thanks.[20:42:04] <leoric> it will not publish, as in gcc 6 branch we added $(GCC_ROOT)/lib to runpath with elfedit, IIRC[20:42:40] <leoric> mismerge?[20:43:27] <alarcher> leoric: I had prepended $(GCC_ROOT)/lib to the runpath.[20:43:34] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@185.39.197.205> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[20:43:46] <leoric> and it is broken?[20:44:12] <alarcher> should I keep it that way?[20:44:26] <leoric> likelyt[20:44:45] <alarcher> I had replaced /usr/lib with $(GCC_ROOT)/lib to be exact[20:44:47] <alarcher> ok[21:04:19] <alarcher> leoric: rbconfig.rb being generated, any nicer idea than sed-ing violently at pre or post install to change the compilers?[21:09:23] <leoric> don't know without looking at code[21:12:54] <leoric> looking at ruby-2.2.9/tool/mkconfig.rb , they do essentially the same - grepping config.status for necessary values[21:13:36] <leoric> likely, post-processing with sed is not the worst idea[21:14:03] <leoric> note, that *.pc file also should be fixed[21:25:55] <alarcher> lrwxrwxrwx 1 userland other 14 Jan 31 11:17 ./build/prototype/i386/usr/lib/qt/4.8/mkspecs/qconfig.pri.32 -> qconfig.pri.32 => WTF situation[21:28:19] <alarcher> forgot to clobber[21:29:41] <alarcher> mremap.cpp:47:12: error: '::mremap' has not been declared cool...[21:30:17] <alarcher> erf these are just tests...[21:34:35] <alarcher> leoric: the rbconfig seems postprocessed using the Solaris/rbconfig.sedscript[21:34:45] <alarcher> just need to hack thereit seems[21:37:29] <leoric> ah, I remember I've seen it somewhere :)[21:38:26] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:38:48] <alarcher> I am going home now[21:40:33] <alarcher> unpublished: library/boost, library/clutter-gst, multimedia/totem, runtime/jruby, runtime/openjdk-7, tcl/expect, web/firefox (xpcshell), web/tomcat-8[21:43:44] <leoric> OK, if you are looking at ruby and boost, I take clutter-gst and totem :)