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[00:25:11] <jollyd> 65% rebuilt...
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[02:53:28] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #5126: SUCCESS in 1 hr 47 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/5126/
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[06:52:02] <jacobs> testing patched libtool and pkg-config, 15% rebuilt
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[16:05:53] <jollyd> alp_: hi
[16:05:58] <jollyd> xenol: hullo
[16:06:11] <alp_> hi
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[16:10:22] <alp_> I have < 800 components to check for runpath issues...
[16:11:30] <jollyd> alp_: fun fun fun ... :S
[16:11:56] <jollyd> I have rebuilt everything last night and republished the components you have fixed today
[16:12:33] <jollyd> not that it helps but the repo is at the tip of oi/hipster
[16:12:43] <alp_> jacobs's fix should do approximately the same as my fixes
[16:13:06] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3775: SUCCESS in 22 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3775/
[16:13:18] <jollyd> some components did not republish for various reasons.
[16:13:34] <jollyd> boost is a problem, it seems that our linker does not handled something
[16:13:38] <jollyd> handle
[16:14:20] <alp_> I've always known it :) Do you have a reproducer?
[16:14:53] <alp_> how does it look?\
[16:15:20] <jollyd> boost build fails with invalid relocation type, let me find the log
[16:17:35] <jollyd> ld: fatal: relocation error: R_AMD64_TLSLD: file bin.v2/libs/fiber/build/gcc-6.4.0/release/threading-multi/algo/work_stealing.o: symbol guard variable for boost::fibers::detail::spinlock_ttas::lock()::generator: bound to: bin.v2/libs/fiber/build/gcc-6.4.0/release/threading-multi/algo/work_stealing.o: relocation illegal when not bound to object being created
[16:18:23] <alp_> wow, I haven't seen this yet :)
[16:18:47] <jollyd> life is full of entertainment
[16:19:41] <alp_> I hope, richlowe will be in a mood to help you
[16:20:49] <jollyd> I'll try to find time to invoke the great bugger-ld
[16:21:02] <jollyd> before pestering richlowe
[16:21:44] <jollyd> alp_: other topic, I have published icinga2 and marianne has called for testing on their community forum
[16:21:47] <xenol> jollyd: hello
[16:22:04] <jollyd> xenol: long time no ping ;)
[16:22:10] <igork> alp_: i think richlowe 'love' c++ :)
[16:22:12] <xenol> busy
[16:22:19] <alp_> should we sen announcement to oi-discuss?
[16:22:28] <xenol> jollyd: I shall get back to rosie regarding the website
[16:22:33] <xenol> alp_: regarding compiler switch?
[16:23:00] <jollyd> igork: oh yes
[16:23:02] <igork> alp_: where you can see your build issue with boost + gcc64 ?
[16:23:17] <igork> and what is boost version
[16:23:47] <jollyd> igork: boost 1_64_0
[16:24:08] <igork> we are still with 1.62
[16:24:13] <igork> no problems with builds
[16:24:19] <jollyd> jperkin worked on 1_66_0 for pkgsrc, I could have a look
[16:24:24] <jollyd> igork: which compiler?
[16:24:43] <igork> https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libboost-dev
[16:24:51] <igork> gcc 6.4
[16:24:56] <jollyd> ok
[16:25:15] <igork> we are using Debian stretch as mainstream with versions
[16:25:49] <jollyd> igork: boost's build system could be to mixing up compilers
[16:26:05] <igork> no need kill brain and try to investigate issues between versions in applications :)
[16:26:06] <xenol> igork: we?
[16:26:19] <igork> we = dilos team :)
[16:26:32] <xenol> how many members does it have?
[16:26:37] <igork> secret :)
[16:26:42] <xenol> I thought it was only you actively working on it
[16:26:45] <xenol> hmm
[16:28:19] <jollyd> I imagine igork has a team of yellow minions
[16:28:39] <jollyd> that would be funny
[16:28:42] <xenol> igork is a nice guy, he is not evil
[16:28:55] <igork> but some time troll :)
[16:28:57] <xenol> yellow miniions follow only evil people
[16:29:00] <jollyd> "I have my next plan! Use DilOS to conquer the world!"
[16:29:18] <igork> jollyd: welcome to the dilos team :)
[16:29:20] <jollyd> Boss! Boss! Boss!
[16:29:27] <jollyd> I am not yellow!!!
[16:29:29] <jollyd> ;)
[16:30:17] <igork> sorry, i can joke, but it can be a little insulting - are you 'blue' ? :)
[16:30:22] <igork> but sorry for joke :)
[16:30:32] <igork> it is joke about colors
[16:31:31] <jollyd> kind of blue like mile davis
[16:31:39] <igork> jollyd: my joke related only to your reply about - ˜/jollyd 18:29> I am not yellow!!!
[16:32:07] <jollyd> ah :)
[16:32:22] <igork> nothing else
[16:32:52] <igork> Russian lang and things can be not understanding by others ;)
[16:33:15] <igork> with Russian jokes
[16:33:41] <jollyd> I think you mentioned something similar weeks ago
[16:33:46] <igork> jollyd: and i'm sorry if my joke confuse you
[16:34:15] <igork> jollyd: i do it - mentioned something similar - all time ;)
[16:34:37] <jollyd> no pb ;)
[16:34:43] <igork> it is why i said that i can be 'troll' time to time on this channel :)
[16:35:01] <igork> but you are all my friends :)
[16:35:07] <igork> (i hope) :)
[16:35:18] <igork> and can understand my joks
[16:35:26] <jollyd> bah being to joke with people is a good sign
[16:35:32] <jollyd> ;)
[16:35:35] <igork> hehe :)
[16:35:49] <jollyd> vala republished...
[16:35:54] <igork> yes, if you primary job tasks can killing your brain
[16:37:14] <igork> i try to say - sorry, i'm Russian, and please do not kill me for my replies :)
[16:38:12] <igork> i'm not expert in english, i use it more in technical
[16:38:43] <igork> and use google translator time to time :)
[16:39:09] * jimklimov failed to /kick igork
[16:39:12] <jimklimov> oops :)
[16:39:33] <jimklimov> now, my failure is complete :)
[16:39:46] <igork> oh, you want kill Russian as you are Russian too ?
[16:40:02] <jimklimov> ohaha yes, I understand your jokes ;)
[16:40:10] <jollyd> ahah
[16:40:11] <jimklimov> there can be only one
[16:40:12] <jimklimov> right?
[16:40:17] <igork> :)
[16:40:31] <jollyd> then I choose alp, sorry guys :P
[16:40:34] <igork> jimklimov: are you Russian and you know it :)
[16:41:00] <igork> and we both will be killed by alp :)
[16:41:09] <jimklimov> that line began as a question but ended as an assertion... should I answer it? :)
[16:41:32] <igork> jimklimov: hey - another topic related to jenkins
[16:41:47] <jimklimov> xenol: will you be in Brussels this weekend? ;)
[16:41:53] <igork> i have fixed issue with zfs_napshot on my tree
[16:42:03] <igork> with oracle jdk
[16:42:45] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3776: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3776/
[16:43:12] <igork> jimklimov: details: https://bitbucket.org/dilos/dilos-illumos/commits/d07f769c2777115c9c9767f5dd7a60ea1ca9a7db
[16:43:16] <jimklimov> igork: do you mean, differently than the existing solution?
[16:43:45] <igork> i don't know current solution - but jenkins crashes to me with oracle jdk8
[16:43:51] <igork> and i have fixed it
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[16:44:15] <xenol> jimklimov: yes
[16:44:30] <igork> but restore previous interface - public - and move to one to version 2
[16:44:41] <jimklimov> igork: I meant the one documented at https://github.com/kohsuke/libzfs4j/ and I think we discussed it a few months back?
[16:45:02] <igork> it is not working to me with oracle jdk8
[16:45:16] <igork> i'm not using openjdk8
[16:45:22] <igork> it is not ported yet to dilos
[16:45:39] <igork> i'm using oracle jdk8 and was asking about it by someone
[16:45:46] <jimklimov> the problem is that there are many ways that ZFS went on evolving, in different distros and projects, and the private libzfs.so interface does not intend to be a portable interface for users and apps - so everyone mangles it over time
[16:46:03] <igork> big issue - compatibility
[16:46:18] <igork> someone wants to use his app on solaris and dilos
[16:46:37] <igork> my proposed solution can fix it
[16:47:01] <toasterson1> are the libzfs_core prs still in review?
[16:47:02] <jimklimov> on your one distro - yes
[16:47:08] <igork> because it was changed public old interface on illumos
[16:47:36] <igork> jimklimov: it is not related to my distribution - it is goal
[16:47:39] <jimklimov> it does not help portability over the general spectrum of illumos, or ZoL, or *BSD, or MacOS, or ....
[16:47:52] <igork> because not version on illumos libs with updates in interfaces
[16:48:12] <jimklimov> there are MANY symbols that got changed, renamed, reporposed, obsoleted etc. over time
[16:48:18] <jimklimov> not just iter-snaps
[16:48:24] <igork> jimklimov: it's helps and working with others who are using oracle jdk
[16:48:28] <igork> mcaOS too
[16:48:50] <igork> my solution is more correct in this place
[16:49:04] <jimklimov> also I think it is not a matter of Java implementation per se - that libzfs.jar solution uses envvars and/or Java properties as passed e.g. with JVM command line
[16:49:19] <igork> but - it can be political question and i don't want to start this thread
[16:49:31] <jollyd> alp_: in firefox's Makefile elfedit is used to set /usr/lib in the RPATH
[16:49:33] <jimklimov> I believe I tested it with Oracle JDK as well
[16:49:59] <jollyd> alp_: jacobs' fix caught it
[16:50:13] <igork> jimklimov: i have provided my feedback - jenkins not working with oracle jdk8 without my update
[16:50:34] <igork> on illumos
[16:50:44] <jimklimov> essentially, the problem is that if some libzfs.so clone AND tools from that codebase changed these function signatures to mean something else, you have to bind EVERY distro in existance to use some same API
[16:51:02] <jimklimov> old, new -does not matter, but from Day X - same
[16:51:04] <igork> it is why public interfaces should be saved
[16:51:09] <igork> for compatibility
[16:51:13] <jimklimov> and stick to it
[16:51:14] <jimklimov> otherwise it does not work
[16:51:21] <jimklimov> this was never a public interface
[16:51:24] <igork> and new functionality should be move on to new updates
[16:51:32] <jimklimov> this was abused, for the lack of any other interface
[16:51:37] <igork> public = public header
[16:51:45] <igork> and can be using for links agains
[16:51:54] <igork> to library
[16:51:58] <jimklimov> that's why libzfs_core was proposed and discussed, to be the new public-API wrapper and/or implementation
[16:52:18] <igork> closed - interface only internal
[16:52:25] <jimklimov> does the man page say it is a committed stable API?
[16:52:38] <igork> you don't understand me
[16:52:54] <igork> and i'd like to stop it, sorry, have to go
[16:53:07] <jimklimov> I do, you want it to work :)
[16:54:02] <jimklimov> also, you didn't quite say - did the LIBZFS4J_ABI* settings NOT work for you? or just that Jenkins failed out of the box with what it (mis-)guessed as your ZFS implementation version?
[16:54:43] <jimklimov> the JAR handles about a dozen tunables that one can set to specify this or that signature of certain routines
[16:54:56] <jimklimov> that were known different across Solaris 10, OI and ZoL
[16:55:25] <jimklimov> and note - different Solaris 10 releases and OpenSolaris releases had changes in those signatures too
[16:55:37] <jimklimov> again, quite normal for a non-committed interface
[16:55:58] <jimklimov> it is a private implementation detail of OS tools from the same revisions of same repo that use it
[16:56:22] <jimklimov> the relatively stable API is e.g. the command-line interface of those tools
[16:57:09] <jimklimov> just like you can manipulate zones and services directly as XML files or SQLite (or BDB?) databases, does not mean it is the intended way to do so and will work forever
[16:58:07] <jimklimov> it is the faster and more convenient way imho ;) but has the risks that some next release would deprecate this backend storage format and use another, and scripts or habits to manipulate those files directly would become irrelevant
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[18:28:56] <leoric> jollyd: I believe RUNPATH still have to be set for FF, just /usr/lib should be removed from it
[18:32:57] <jollyd> leoric: that's what I did so far
[18:36:34] <jacobs> Yes, FF and TB still need a RUNPATH, just without /usr/lib
[18:44:45] <jollyd> ok
[18:48:55] <jollyd> ruby/augeas had a dependency issue with _augeas.so picking libssp.so from /usr/lib. I prepended $(GCC_ROOT)/lib to R*PATH using elfedit, is it the right approach?
[18:50:53] <leoric> hm...
[18:51:35] <leoric> why does gcc fail to use $(GCC_ROOT)/lib rpath automatically?
[18:51:59] <leoric> is something setting other rpath explicitly?
[18:52:22] <jollyd> I would assume so since /usr/ruby/2.3/lib is set
[18:53:20] <leoric> can we set LD_OPTIONS in compile time?
[18:53:43] <leoric> I mean, it's still a hack, but it's better than elfedit
[18:55:36] <leoric> people, how do you rebuild the world when all components, depending on sigcpp, are broken with gcc 4 ? ;)
[18:59:26] <jacobs> I create a zone with the fixed bits installed and rebuild there. That's what I'm doing with fixes to libtool and pkg-config right now.
[19:01:15] <leoric> do you use gcc 4.9?
[19:10:35] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3777: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3777/
[19:11:34] <jacobs> I use the gate default, so yes.
[19:16:37] <leoric> and haven't sufferred from pangomm && friends?
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[19:23:53] <jacobs> I still have pre-existing breakage to look into.
[19:28:16] <jollyd> leoric: nevermind, augeas picks /usr/bin/gcc regardless of environment, that was the pb
[19:30:04] <leoric> huh...
[19:30:05] <leoric> elfdump ./build/prototype/i386/usr/lib/ptlib-2.10.11/devices/sound/pulse_pwplugin.so |grep main
[19:30:13] <leoric> finds what it need :)
[19:31:53] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3778: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3778/
[19:38:36] <jollyd> leoric: do you know how to pass the compiler to rake?
[19:39:26] <leoric> no
[19:39:46] <leoric> can you just use PATH?
[19:43:01] <jollyd> it ignores it
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[19:48:55] <leoric> at least I dislike the idea to change gcc-4 runtime to gcc-6 runtime with elfedit :) I know, we are going to do it for libraries, shipped with nvidia, but we have no choice there
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[20:02:01] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3779: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3779/
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[21:58:01] <psychicist__> is anyone going to be at FOSDEM this weekend?
[22:25:55] <wiedi> yes, a few of us will be there and there will be an illumos table in building K
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[22:34:06] <psychicist__> I will be there too, so I guess I will meet you guys there
[22:38:36] <wiedi> cool, looking forward to it :)
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