January 27, 2018 
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January 27, 2018 [00:05:30] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@75-43-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:14:20] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@95.133.43.75> has joined #oi-dev[00:18:38] <leoric> one more magic var - lt_cv_sys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec="/lib/$(MACH64) /usr/lib/$(MACH64)"[00:18:38] <leoric>[00:21:26] <leoric> if I spend 2 hrs to fix one component with wrong runpath, this will not sale...[00:21:33] <leoric> scale[00:44:16] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3746: SUCCESS in 23 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3746/[01:21:25] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@95.133.43.75> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:05:26] *** v_a_b1 <v_a_b1!~volker@p5090596E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[02:06:45] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p57A27B83.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:42:25] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg08-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:42:43] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg08-o.oracle.com> has joined #oi-dev[02:42:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[02:56:36] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #5123: SUCCESS in 1 hr 51 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/5123/[03:23:36] *** wiedi_ <wiedi_!~wiedi@77.87.48.139> has joined #oi-dev[03:27:05] *** wiedi <wiedi!~wiedi@ip5b409739.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:04:33] *** wiedi_ <wiedi_!~wiedi@77.87.48.139> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[07:51:52] *** Diagon <Diagon!~DiagonalA@unaffiliated/diagonalarg> has joined #oi-dev[08:46:24] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3747: SUCCESS in 30 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3747/[09:09:59] <leoric> alarcher: quick tip to terrify you - 'for file in /usr/sbin/amd64/* /usr/bin/amd64/* ; do elfdump $file 2>&1| grep RUNPATH |grep -q /usr/lib/amd64 && echo $file; done'[09:10:11] <leoric> you'll see the scale of the disaster ;)[09:10:51] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3748: SUCCESS in 24 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3748/[09:11:05] <leoric> all of them have good chances to be broken with non-4 gcc[09:23:39] *** Diagon <Diagon!~DiagonalA@unaffiliated/diagonalarg> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:32:41] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3749: SUCCESS in 21 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3749/[09:32:43] <leoric> too many components broken, I suggest fixing this globally and then fix components, which suffer from the fix :)[09:32:49] <leoric> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/3906/commits/89cce5a36427abe46acf61ea2085255d4c8582d8[11:06:48] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@75-43-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[11:17:17] *** wiedi <wiedi!~wiedi@ip5b409739.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #oi-dev[11:51:49] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@176.212.32.36> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:08:10] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@75-43-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:25:03] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3750: SUCCESS in 29 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3750/[14:45:15] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3751: SUCCESS in 19 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3751/[14:48:18] *** pjama <pjama!~pjama@c211-31-53-64.kelvn3.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:53:17] *** pjama <pjama!~pjama@c211-31-53-64.kelvn3.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #oi-dev[15:33:23] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:1618:b200:1c64:91b8:1cd1:d3d5> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:33:43] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:1618:b200:1c64:91b8:1cd1:d3d5> has joined #oi-dev[15:59:00] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[16:01:16] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@176.212.32.36> has joined #oi-dev[16:19:10] *** jollyd <jollyd!~alarcher@188.113.95.225> has joined #oi-dev[16:25:47] <jollyd> leoric: alright I just checked[16:25:49] <jollyd> ...[16:26:06] <leoric> I know, it's a pain[16:26:15] <jollyd> I have rebuilt the components you fixed already[16:26:18] <leoric> now looking at postgresql-10[16:26:43] <leoric> you need fixed libxslt and other libraries[16:43:49] <jacobs> I have made a small change to libtool.m4 in a zone that I'm rebuilding oi-userland on. Not the fastest system on the planet. but it should alleviate the need to use something like lt_cv_sys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec="/lib/$(MACH64) /usr/lib/$(MACH64)"[17:05:34] <jacobs> Seems to have fixed libxslt when I spot checked. I suppose I should build everything with and without the change for comparison.[17:11:08] <leoric> but we'll have to libtoolize everything?[17:26:57] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3752: SUCCESS in 26 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3752/[17:35:43] *** alarcher_ <alarcher_!~sailfish@207-138-11.connect.netcom.no> has joined #oi-dev[17:37:53] <alarcher_> leoric: yes I am following the PRs. I had rebuilt your PR with libxslt and friends, just synced the repo. Now just rebased and starting the rebuild of postgre[17:39:24] <leoric> it'll take some time to fix everything...[17:43:32] <alarcher_> basically would grepping the runpath as you suggested cover most issues or do you expect more badness?[17:53:36] <leoric> don't know[17:54:20] <leoric> for now we can find likely broken things, looking at runpath of current binaries and -R flags of pkgconfig files[17:58:17] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@13-113-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[18:03:58] *** wiedi <wiedi!~wiedi@ip5b409739.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: ^C)[18:04:40] <leoric> looking at rebuilding gnome2/* and regret that I haven't dropped most of it yet[18:06:53] <alarcher_> leoric: postgre is republished. The repo still misses a few packages that are still broken[18:07:38] <leoric> the issue is that it's not all :)[18:08:35] <leoric> you have to rebuild a) everything depending on libxslt; b) everything, which was healed by LT_SYS_LIBRARY_PATH and friends ;)[18:08:52] <leoric> better say, you'll have to republish everything[18:09:00] <alarcher_> I am pretty dead lately between teaching and research so I need task that require very little brain[18:09:20] <alarcher_> this is a perfect task then :)[18:09:28] <leoric> but firstly we have to finish with runpath fixes[18:10:26] <alarcher_> for a desktop use I have not seen visible badness[18:10:43] <alarcher_> that's funny and scary[18:10:46] <leoric> when you mention teaching, I'm recollecting that I'll have to read some lectures in one week, and I have very vague idea what I will discuss[18:11:24] <alarcher_> operating system course again?[18:11:35] <leoric> not again, the first time[18:11:40] <leoric> this is worse[18:12:01] <alarcher_> ah ok I misremembered[18:12:30] <leoric> previously I mostly read something DBMS-related[18:12:57] <alarcher_> I give the same in parallel computing for numerics but need.to update stuff on the go[18:13:42] <alarcher_> how many students do you expect?[18:14:15] <leoric> if I remember correctly, 3 groups, about 50[18:14:44] <leoric> will have to create 50 vms for them to break[18:15:41] <leoric> gnome-games broken?[18:16:33] <alarcher_> I'll update the workstation tmrw[18:16:37] <leoric> no, I miss clutter-gtk[18:17:07] <leoric> and I hoped it was a good chance to deprecate them[18:19:42] <alarcher_> this week was a mess with libtool on two supercomputers[18:21:05] <alarcher_> libtool lists .la in dependencies while these are actually not deps of the lib and the admin did not install them...[18:21:22] <alarcher_> so compilation fail...[18:22:21] <alarcher_> it seems libtool pulls them in for convenience static libs even if.they are not needed.[18:22:53] <leoric> this week I've played with new proxmox and ansible...[18:23:43] <leoric> when I feel comfortable with them, we'll migrate from our old proxmox cluster...[18:27:33] <alarcher_> I do not know proxmox...[18:28:11] <alarcher_> oh the sad thing on illumos is that nowadays no job scheduler works...[18:28:48] <alarcher_> even the grid engine fork was modified in a way that it compiles on linux only[18:29:20] <alarcher_> torque has some linux namespace hardcoded now[18:29:29] <alarcher_> and slurm the same[18:29:37] <alarcher_> very annoying[18:30:44] <alarcher_> I tried to patch slurm but it was a pain and ended up not running properly[18:34:58] <leoric> dumb question - have you asked in illumos-discuss or smartos mail list, do people use something?[18:37:33] <alarcher_> when I mentioned slurm illumos-dev nobody seemed to have an opinion[18:38:16] <leoric> developers sometimes can have vague ideas what their users do ;)[18:42:44] *** alarcher_ <alarcher_!~sailfish@207-138-11.connect.netcom.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[18:56:49] *** alarcher_ <alarcher_!~sailfish@27-0-11.connect.netcom.no> has joined #oi-dev[19:06:52] *** sfisque <sfisque!~Adium@74-95-42-38-Oregon.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[19:10:14] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:1618:b200:1c64:91b8:1cd1:d3d5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:13:24] *** jollyd <jollyd!~alarcher@188.113.95.225> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[19:24:51] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:1618:b200:1c64:91b8:1cd1:d3d5> has joined #oi-dev[19:48:15] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@75-43-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[21:46:05] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:49:33] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #oi-dev[22:21:03] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@75-43-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:33:52] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@135-35-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[23:43:10] *** wiedi <wiedi!~wiedi@ip5b409739.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #oi-dev[23:43:32] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:1618:b200:1c64:91b8:1cd1:d3d5> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:44:00] *** jacobs <jacobs!~jacobs@2603:300a:1618:b200:1c64:91b8:1cd1:d3d5> has joined #oi-dev