January 17, 2018 
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January 17, 2018 [00:09:48] *** lgtaube <lgtaube!~lgtaube@213-67-21-71-no84.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[00:19:58] *** lgtaube <lgtaube!~lgtaube@213-67-21-71-no84.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #oi-dev[00:36:33] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has joined #oi-dev[00:57:56] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:18:46] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p57A27F6E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[02:20:25] *** v_a_b1 <v_a_b1!~volker@p57A27C20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:26:59] *** lgtaube <lgtaube!~lgtaube@213-67-21-71-no84.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[02:29:05] *** lgtaube <lgtaube!~lgtaube@213-67-21-71-no84.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #oi-dev[02:38:20] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg08-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:38:37] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@hqdc-proxy-mwg08-o.oracle.com> has joined #oi-dev[02:38:37] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[02:48:25] *** pjama <pjama!~pjama@c211-31-53-64.kelvn3.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:51:48] *** pjama <pjama!~pjama@c211-31-53-64.kelvn3.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #oi-dev[02:57:24] *** lgtaube <lgtaube!~lgtaube@213-67-21-71-no84.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Network is unreachable)[02:58:43] *** lgtaube <lgtaube!~lgtaube@213-67-21-71-no84.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #oi-dev[06:36:00] *** tomww <tomww!~tom@unaffiliated/tomww> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[07:40:16] <alp_> xenol: I don't see oibot in the chat :)[07:47:34] *** oibot <oibot!~oibot@95.131.252.66> has joined #oi-dev[07:51:04] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[08:33:12] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[08:44:32] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2001:8e0:2040:ef01:c0ff:7b6c:179f:1c75> has joined #oi-dev[09:21:37] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!mnowak_@nat/suse/x-pouoayalkjqwjxlp> has joined #oi-dev[09:31:13] <xenol> alp_: you see, it appeared out of nowhere![09:46:33] *** tomww <tomww!~tom@tom.bn-ulm.de> has joined #oi-dev[09:46:33] *** tomww <tomww!~tom@tom.bn-ulm.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[09:46:33] *** tomww <tomww!~tom@unaffiliated/tomww> has joined #oi-dev[09:46:33] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o tomww[09:48:58] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[09:59:05] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:10:18] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[10:11:24] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:15:44] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@33-62-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:26:46] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@33-62-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[10:46:11] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:59:19] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #oi-dev[11:03:05] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:03:54] *** asx <asx!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #oi-dev[11:11:20] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[11:22:29] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[11:30:50] *** _0x5eb_ <_0x5eb_!~seb@seb-hpws2.elen.ucl.ac.be> has joined #oi-dev[12:24:43] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[12:43:11] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[13:02:28] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[13:17:55] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@5ec0fdb3.skybroadband.com> has joined #oi-dev[13:52:27] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[14:01:45] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[14:02:38] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@31.7.243.238> has joined #oi-dev[14:11:06] <alp_> alanc: Hi. Currently Xorg on Linux sees 'Power Button' keyboard device (which is added by udev). This seems to allow Linux gdk applications to process power button events. Currently we have no such device on Xorg/Solaris. Previously we could use hal to watch for all button devices and their events. Now it's considered outdated... Are there any plans/ideas to expose Power Button device to X11 on Solaris?[14:11:31] <alp_> or if one considers doing this, what is the way to go?[14:12:21] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:13:16] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@31.7.243.238> has joined #oi-dev[14:25:57] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[14:47:47] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[15:01:37] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[15:24:56] <alp_> alarcher: Hi. What is the plan of migration to gcc-6?[15:26:16] <alarcher> alp_: we can sync my repo to a testing repo, then if everything is fine do what you suggested: update the build server with my repo then rebuild all the packages[15:26:37] <alarcher> alp_: I need to finish preparing a lab right now[15:26:44] <alarcher> I'll be online later today[15:26:48] <alarcher> after 19[15:26:53] <alp_> OK[15:26:56] <alarcher> western europe time[15:27:02] <alarcher> UTC+1[15:37:18] <xenol> alarcher: o.O[15:37:21] <xenol> alarcher: O.o[15:37:24] <xenol> alarcher: is alive![15:37:27] <xenol> \o/[15:56:35] <jimklimov> HNY to you too!? ;)[15:58:11] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:04:21] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3720: SUCCESS in 23 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3720/[16:38:38] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc92716-cmbg20-2-0-cust138.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:13:05] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@55-114-191-90.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[17:43:02] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2001:8e0:2040:ef01:c0ff:7b6c:179f:1c75> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:52:22] <alanc> alp_: nope, without hal support we're just losing functionality[18:08:33] <alp_> ufff.. It seems I've fixed most ugly of the reported issues... Time to create new upower/mate-power-manager/ConsoleKit isos???[18:17:03] <alp_> alanc: a) well, more and more software drops hal support (for example, recent gvfs); b) what about adding Xorg <> hal interface to create 'Power Button' device?[18:17:12] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!mnowak_@nat/suse/x-pouoayalkjqwjxlp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:21:00] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has joined #oi-dev[18:29:45] <alanc> I think it would be possible, just not a priority for us[18:30:42] <alanc> if you want a hint as to our top priority for X at the moment: https://github.com/oracle/solaris-userland/commit/6e0ef27c45cee20e50906fb5f848dbd10e0237f2[18:54:12] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.232.89.90> has joined #oi-dev[18:58:17] <alanc> (I know, that's just us finally catching up to what you did years ago)[19:00:03] <jimklimov> ;-p[19:01:39] <alanc> most of the FOSS from our G11N gate is moving into Userland too[19:03:09] <jimklimov> any plans to visit FOSDEM this year?[19:08:08] <alanc> me? no, wrong side of the planet[19:12:35] <jimklimov> the world is small, come on :)[19:17:42] <jimklimov> would've been nice to meet up in person...[19:19:04] <leoric> 27349302 Remove Midnight Commander ... 27349358 Remove fastcgi ...[19:19:19] <leoric> is this serious? :)[19:20:27] <jimklimov> I guess they are kidding ;)[19:23:00] <Agnar> good evening[19:29:57] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.232.89.90> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:32:23] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.232.89.90> has joined #oi-dev[19:35:32] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:58:28] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@dynamic-109-81-208-155.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has joined #oi-dev[20:02:13] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@dynamic-109-81-208-155.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:02:42] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@dynamic-109-81-208-155.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has joined #oi-dev[20:19:56] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #oi-dev[20:23:16] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #3721: SUCCESS in 17 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/3721/[20:28:41] <alanc> leoric: smaller staff means smaller set of software can be supported[20:29:08] <alanc> especially at very large companies with very large process requirements[20:30:51] <alanc> fastcgi was removed because upstream is long dead, and everyone should be using Apache's mod_fcgi instead[20:31:58] <igork> alanc: what about Midnight Commander ? :) as i know - it's not dead :)[20:32:20] <alanc> no business case for us to continue[20:33:22] <alanc> if people want to build it themselves or install from SFE, that's up to them, we didn't see enough usage to pick it over other packages to keep[20:33:49] <alanc> not like we do anything special for Midnight Commander that SFE or end users can't[20:37:33] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@33-62-132-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[20:44:12] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:45:53] <leoric> ufff.. now upower dies, when ac0 device is present, but battery0 is not...[20:47:42] <igork> i can't work without Midnight Commander :)[20:47:53] <igork> my every day/time tool :)[20:49:40] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@169-17-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[20:50:37] <alanc> good thing you make your own distro and can decide what goes in it then 8-)[20:53:06] <igork> hehe :)[20:53:29] <igork> dilos has Midnight Commander installed :)[20:53:36] <igork> to iso too ;)[20:58:03] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has joined #oi-dev[21:35:12] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~jimklimov@dynamic-109-81-208-155.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[21:36:25] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@169-17-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:51:17] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.232.89.90> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:24:54] *** asx_ <asx_!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #oi-dev[22:25:32] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@169-17-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[22:27:14] *** asx__ <asx__!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has joined #oi-dev[22:27:42] *** asx__ <asx__!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:28:37] *** asx_ <asx_!~asx@93-34-145-252.ip50.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:29:22] *** Toasterson <Toasterson!~toast@2a02:aa10:e280:b880:e3d5:f722:2d0a:1d1a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:02:33] *** mnowak_ <mnowak_!~mnowak_@94.142.238.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:58:15] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@5ec0fdb3.skybroadband.com> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js)