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[01:07:43] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2837: FAILURE in 17 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2837/
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[08:17:42] <leoric> Meths: What a hell is going on with time on build server?
[08:17:57] <leoric> it constantly goes to past even if ntp is working
[08:18:05] <leoric> is host sane?
[08:18:51] <leoric> now it shows 19 February 2017 21:47:51  UTC
[08:47:49] <leoric> so far I've added ntpdate time.google.com to crontab as ntp daemon can't cope with such fast scales down ( ~ 35-90 seconds per minute)
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[09:38:22] <nikolam> leoric, what's virtualization platform for build server now anyway
[09:40:10] <nikolam> maybe some closer local server from http://www.pool.ntp.org
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[09:49:13] <Agnar> sounds like vmware. their clock is highly broken.
[09:51:03] <leoric> I suppose, smartos
[09:53:13] <Agnar> that's strange then
[10:29:57] <xenol> leoric: please, remove the time.google.com from crontab and don't use it as a time source. google time does weird things with leap second and the last weird thing was on 31st Dec
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[10:34:34] <xenol> and please, don't use cron to run time manipulating programs. It's not the best option
[10:36:19] <leoric> xenol: ntp can't sync time when it behaves so strange
[10:37:29] <leoric> xenol: you can change source, but I can't find out better option than ntpdate in cron for now
[10:40:37] <nikolam> I have similar problem when dual-booting, when OI time is now in UTC and Windows time (as it is on PC's) is local time. I never had problems with time before, they started last year
[10:40:51] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #4780: SUCCESS in 2 hr 9 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/4780/
[10:41:07] <nikolam> leoric, you think that default ntp service , if selected local, UK server for NTP, wont' work right?
[10:41:31] <leoric> I couldn't sync to pool.ntp.org
[10:41:51] <leoric> sorry guys, have to run
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[10:42:03] <nikolam> it's almost always smething.xy.pool.ntp.org etc
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[11:05:34] <xenol> [0,1,2,3}.openindiana.pool.ntp.org
[11:05:46] <xenol> they are links to the closest time source provided by ntp pool project
[11:05:51] <xenol> svcadm enable ntp is all you have to do
[11:06:07] <xenol> the problem here is what to do with crazy clock skews like the build machine is experiencing
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[12:09:29] <jimklimov> afaik CRAZY (hops over N seconds) should be ignored, and/or at least not cause hopping, except maybe when the ntp daemon starts up
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[13:58:06] <oibot> Yippee, build fixed!
[13:58:11] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2838: FIXED in 3 hr 16 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2838/
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[14:11:49] <igork> xenol: Yippee ! :)
[14:12:00] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #4781: SUCCESS in 13 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/4781/
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[15:08:17] <leoric> tsoome: Hi. Do you have some ideas for cgrzemba ("Boot trouble with loader" on openindiana-discuss ML)?
[15:08:43] <tsoome> link?
[15:09:52] <leoric> https://openindiana.org/pipermail/openindiana-discuss/2017-February/020284.html
[15:10:32] <tsoome> he is hit by this one: https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/379/
[15:11:47] <tsoome> im quite positive about it.
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[15:12:31] <leoric> can he do anything manually?
[15:13:12] <tsoome> not really, but I can build binaries so he can put those in place till the fix is available.
[15:14:31] <tsoome> we did manage to identify the root cause yesterday and verified the fix, but so far there are no reviews, so it will take a bit…
[15:14:44] <leoric> if you have binaries ready, can you point him to them?
[15:14:59] <tsoome> let me build
[15:15:04] <leoric> thank you
[15:15:45] <tsoome> basically we got bitten by bit of the history:)
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[15:18:01] <leoric> how often is it reproducible?
[15:18:21] <tsoome> im not in the list, can you mail him to fetch gptzfsboot and zfsloader from http://80.235.90.220
[15:18:28] <leoric> yes
[15:18:52] <leoric> are they ready now?
[15:18:59] <tsoome> it is quite random and depends on the disk layout
[15:19:00] <tsoome> yes
[15:19:44] <leoric> he should just replace files in boot/ ?
[15:20:07] <tsoome> yes and run bootadm install-bootloader -Mf
[15:20:16] <leoric> OK
[15:20:51] <tsoome> or use installboot -m /mntpoint/boot/pmbr /mntmount/boot/gptzfsboot /dev/rdsk/c....
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[15:22:12] <tsoome> I would really like to get it pushed asap but would need at least some eyes - I have one review from fbsd side.
[15:23:05] <tsoome> ironically the improved IO validation did reveal the problem;)
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[15:27:09] <jollyd> tsoome: any issue to report about gcc-6 packages or happy so far?
[15:27:35] <jollyd> I read you mentioned false positives, is it something to report upstream?
[15:28:22] <tsoome> the uninitialized variable detection seems to be suspectible about false positives
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[15:30:18] <tsoome> and tbh, we should discuss about that RUNPATH/RPATH setup with richlowe and others - should it be done like it is now and should we fix the elfcheck or should some other approach be taken
[15:31:34] <xenol> tsoome: also provide checksums to people can check
[15:31:34] <tsoome> from current build system point of view it is something we need to deal with.
[15:31:48] <jollyd> ok good to know :)
[15:32:09] <xenol> tsoome: fetching "random" binaries from the internet is not he best practice, even if the binaries are coming from the grandmaster himself :P
[15:32:49] <tsoome> did add digest -a sha512
[15:32:51] <jollyd> xenol: the grandmaster's checksums are ubiquitous, do not question them
[15:33:07] <xenol> tsoome: also given that it is a critical bug, can we just proceed with one review request
[15:33:14] <xenol> esp. if we know that it is fixing things?
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[15:33:47] <tsoome> well, I can do it, but I would like to get ACK about the fix from that user
[15:37:00] <xenol> well, I am concerned as today first SHA1 collision was presented
[15:37:05] <xenol> https://shattered.io
[15:37:19] <xenol> nothing suprising, but..
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[16:36:54] <leoric> tsoome: https://openindiana.org/pipermail/openindiana-discuss/2017-February/020288.html
[16:38:05] <tsoome> huh, he is not on irc?
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[16:38:55] <tsoome> would like to confirm if the MBR was really updated
[16:39:36] <tsoome> from this output he gave, the gptzfsboot is not fully read into the memory
[16:40:07] <tsoome> disk-1: is telling me that in case you wonder;)
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[16:45:55] <denk> tsoome ported UFO: unknown functional object
[16:46:10] <tsoome> :D
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[16:48:27] <tsoome> well, it is disturbingly usual that if you instruct someone to do something, they use wrong binaries, wrong patches, leave out options etc etc.
[16:49:10] <tsoome> especially annoying when paired with long response times:D
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[17:02:26] <nikolam> current loader can't boot. I suspect is is known.
[17:02:52] <nikolam> I need to use USB boot and boot manually every time, reported it I think 2 days ago or something
[17:03:24] <nikolam> I was under impression we are waiting for something to land in illumos and it had 2 reviews last time I cheked?
[17:03:51] <tsoome> nikolam: grab gptzfsboot and zfsloader from http://80.235.90.220
[17:04:12] <tsoome> the issue is this one: https://www.illumos.org/rb/r/379/
[17:04:23] <nikolam> ok tsoome same distance same target, let us move to #openindiana to lower chatter.
[17:05:01] <tsoome> aye
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