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[08:47:01] <alp> hmm... why do we need this dirty hack? 'LD_PRELOAD=libumem.so UMEM_OPTIONS=backend=mmap wine whatever.exe'
[09:03:15] <nikolam> I have some mikrotik/ruteros .exe that works with wine. If that changes, that won't be ok/e.g. functionality should remain.
[09:05:38] <nikolam> I more of that wonder, why I need to put 'GSSAPIKeyExchange no' in ~.ssh/config to make it work right and open ssh connections instantly (and not wait like I was waiting for several minutes on every ssh, for almost half a year or more... )
[09:06:30] <nikolam> That SunSSH compatibility patch is really a deal breaker for everyday use :(
[09:07:02] <alp> do you have issues with dns?
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[09:53:06] <denk> is it possible to rebuild all installed packages from the source code using one (or two) command(s)?
[09:53:29] <denk> I mean like I do it with bsd ports
[09:53:55] <denk> and all their dependencies
[10:09:50] <alp> no
[10:13:33] <denk> thanks
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<alp> alanc: can you check if you Solaris is also affected by https://www.illumos.org/issues/7479 ? I mean, that pulseaudio controls, exported via gnome UI, is not related to audioctl controls
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[11:06:40] <jimklimov> alp, leoric, xenol - anyone online? :)
[11:06:50] <alp> yes
[11:06:52] <xenol> yes
[11:06:57] <xenol> but, I am busy atm
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[11:07:20] <jimklimov> @work colleagues are discussing participation in FOSDEM 2017, specifically - planning a hackathon/training in the preceding days (2-3 feb)
[11:07:40] <jimklimov> did anything crystallize for the illumos meet-ups?
[11:08:09] <jimklimov> is it constrained so far in the 4-5th of the fosdem itself, or are any extra days planned for the hacking sessions too?
[11:09:01] <jimklimov> I saw on the wiki the proposal about a better hands-off installation experience... wondered if my split-root work can crawl into common space via this subject too ;)
[11:11:07] <xenol> I plan to be on FOSDEM only during the weekend (arrival day before, departute day after)
[11:11:11] <alp> If anything goes as expected I'll be in Brussels since 3rd till 9th
[11:11:25] <alp> If everything goes as expected I'll be in Brussels since 3rd till 9th
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[11:13:39] <jimklimov> ok, so for planning at work I can assume that their/our hackathon schedule won't interfere with my AWOL into the illumos table next days? ;)
[11:14:08] <jimklimov> BTW, do I get it right that the illumos table is next to Jenkins one? My Pidgin tabs for the IRC channels also sit together ;p
[11:15:40] <jimklimov> perhaps we could sit with them to hack up the build-zones integration like what you and Adam proposed some time back?
[11:16:06] <jimklimov> and/or drill down and fix the libzfs.jar thing to work on various ABIs of ZFS?
[11:17:18] <jimklimov> I'd love if OI (and/or OmniOS, etc.) local zones could become OOB agent-environments similar to what they pre-bundle for docker scratch areas, etc.
[11:17:29] <jimklimov> and wrap it altogether with ccache ;)
[11:18:14] <xenol> jimklimov: we could and try
[11:19:50] <xenol> jimklimov: libzfs.jar would be nice though
[11:20:46] <jimklimov> and I looked (from afar for now) at tweaking my "git zclone" into a way that builds running on a zfs-backed system could use to instantiate buld workspaces with a needed checkout and minimal/no overhead in ime and space
[11:21:19] <jimklimov> at least plugin-erizing this also borders between Jenkins and illumos expertizes
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[13:14:15] <alp> xenol: I'm going to merge gfx-drm PR
[13:15:06] <alp> rebuild drm and illumos-gate
[13:15:29] <alp> Are you OK with it?
[13:18:18] <tsoome> does it mean the drm-testing branch will go away?
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[13:34:23] <alp> which branch? repository?
[13:38:35] <tsoome> yes
[13:41:30] <alp> likely (if I don't forget to remove it)
[13:41:41] <alp> why do you ask?
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[13:49:58] <tsoome> I have it on my hosts:D
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[14:05:51] <denk> *is it
[14:06:15] <denk> huh.. completely mistypes, sorry :)
[14:06:38] <tsoome> did you clone the boot pool?
[14:06:51] <denk> only dataset
[14:06:58] <jimklimov> I see disregard for PRIu64 and such, which might explode when porting the code ;)
[14:07:04] <denk> via bootadm
[14:07:40] <denk> yes, bootadm was too old (151a8)
[14:07:59] <tsoome> yep, it is known defect of zfs send, it will go away if you rewrite the boot_archive, you can run bootadm update-archive -f to enforce its re-creation.
[14:08:20] <denk> ok, thanks
[14:08:58] <tsoome> there is registered bug about it, but zfs people have not done anything about it;)
[14:11:08] <tsoome> so far the zfs send has been reliable way to trigger it, but it happens with larger files (such as boot archive)
[14:11:48] <denk> one year...
[14:16:50] <tsoome> the problem is that this particular check is only present in loader; grub (1,2) does not implement it, also zfs itself does not check it, and I had to disable the error out…
[14:18:13] <tsoome> but I did set it to spam this warning (yep, the PRIx comment is correct;) so that people will get notice there is something odd going on;)
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[14:37:39] <denk> gnu-tar depends on ssh, it's good! :)
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[15:09:06] <alp> it's used as default rsh command
[15:11:49] <xenol> alp: yes, I am
[15:49:41] <xenol> we have all five ;)
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[21:10:28] <leoric> thanks
[21:10:28] <gwr> Latest parts appear to be haswell and valleyview
[21:11:13] <gwr> (both of those are gen 7)
[21:13:22] <gwr> BTW, the i810 is actually no longer in the list of supported devices, if you look closely.
[21:14:38] <gwr> I think i830 is the oldest part supported by the "new" DRM code (the code published by Oracle earlier this year).
[21:14:54] <gwr> In case you want to correct that on the wiki.
[21:42:56] <gwr> Probably. I tested on ironlake and that worked (but yes, ONLY after the AGP fixes).
[21:43:22] <gwr> AGP was broken before I got there, affecting all gen 5 and older.
[21:46:54] <leoric> feel free to do it :)
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[23:09:46] <tsoome> VT switching in vmware fusion is working, same resolution tho 1440x900x32
[23:10:18] <tsoome> pkg://openindiana.org/driver/graphics/drm at 0 dot 5.11-2016.1.1.46:20161219T203949Z
[23:18:05] <copec> So I thought the "jenkins" thing was a Leeroy Jenkins reference going along with the Hipster theme until I looked it up.
[23:21:05] <jimklimov> does anyone have a hint about use of L2TP VPN on Hipster?
[23:21:40] <jimklimov> is there a package, or should I find and build my own? (some old blogs refer to adventures with xl2ptd)
[23:22:57] <jimklimov> why oh why, does everyone invent their new same technology that's very different from everyone else?
[23:23:50] <xenol> jimklimov: xkcd://927
[23:24:46] <jimklimov> yup, the one good thing about standards - there's so many to choose from
[23:30:58] <tsoome> but VT switch on i965 does only switch VT input but not picture… altho X seems to be happy itself: AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch