December 15, 2016 
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December 15, 2016 [00:04:38] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAD5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:11:53] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2732: FAILURE in 2 hr 40 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2732/[00:20:05] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js)[00:32:15] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has joined #oi-dev[00:36:32] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:48:11] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAD5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[02:02:23] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has joined #oi-dev[02:39:29] *** ozquera2 <ozquera2!~ozquera@p57BDAE67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[02:42:55] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAD5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[02:42:55] *** ozquera1 <ozquera1!~ozquera@p57BDAD5D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[02:58:27] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p5B3716D7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[02:58:54] <oibot> Yippee, build fixed![02:58:54] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2733: FIXED in 2 hr 47 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2733/[03:02:34] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p5B3717DF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[03:09:50] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAE67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[03:34:06] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[04:27:21] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #4717: SUCCESS in 1 hr 28 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/4717/[07:19:00] *** saskaloon <saskaloon!~toor@indefeasible.indelect.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[07:20:02] *** saskaloon <saskaloon!~toor@indefeasible.indelect.net> has joined #oi-dev[07:50:54] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #oi-dev[08:14:53] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[08:23:13] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #oi-dev[08:31:01] <alp> gwr: https://hg.openindiana.org/upstream/oracle/x-cons/x-s12-clone/rev/9f5a5146d91f[08:31:49] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:35:00] <alp> alanc: Hi. Does Solaris 11 still uses some closed motif libraries?[08:50:33] *** rk4n3 <rk4n3!~rk4n3@24-159-210-156.static.roch.mn.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[08:54:13] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #oi-dev[08:59:43] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[09:02:09] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #oi-dev[09:02:29] *** chimay <chimay!~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay> has joined #oi-dev[09:05:37] *** rk4n3 <rk4n3!~rk4n3@24-159-210-156.static.roch.mn.charter.com> has joined #oi-dev[09:07:32] *** chimay <chimay!~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[09:08:14] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Quit: tozhu)[09:21:36] *** MarcelT__ <MarcelT__!~marcel@p4FC086E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[09:22:00] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:25:36] *** MarcelT_ <MarcelT_!~marcel@p4FC080E6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[09:28:57] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2734: SUCCESS in 2 hr 37 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2734/[09:44:02] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-10-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[09:48:40] *** xenol <xenol!~xenol@2a01:8c00:ff48:1a6c::dead:beef> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:50:26] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:51:28] *** chimay <chimay!~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay> has joined #oi-dev[10:06:19] *** chimay <chimay!~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[10:06:57] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[10:22:56] <alp> http://blog.llvm.org/2016/12/llvms-new-versioning-scheme.html ... Why are they doing this?[10:28:23] *** xenol <xenol!~xenol@2a01:8c00:ff48:1a6c::dead:beef> has joined #oi-dev[10:44:19] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc108961-cmbg20-2-0-cust21.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #oi-dev[10:45:46] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[10:46:57] <denk> ask them[11:24:03] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[11:49:58] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[11:54:38] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAE67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:56:55] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has joined #oi-dev[12:02:49] <alp> gwr, jollyd, xenol: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/2678[12:05:29] <alp> I like this PR: +139 lines −109,835 lines[12:31:29] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[12:37:33] *** kohju <kohju!~kohju@gw.justplayer.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:49:05] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAE67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[12:53:59] *** kohju <kohju!~kohju@gw.justplayer.com> has joined #oi-dev[12:53:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o kohju[13:49:45] *** tsoome_ <tsoome_!~tsoome@220-10-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[13:50:00] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-10-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:50:00] *** tsoome_ is now known as tsoome[13:53:19] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[13:53:20] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:53:37] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[14:35:20] *** andreas_ <andreas_!~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-134-3-91-29.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #oi-dev[14:35:43] *** andreas_ is now known as Guest88422[14:36:47] *** Guest88422 <Guest88422!~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-134-3-91-29.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:38:53] *** grueni <grueni!~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-134-3-91-29.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #oi-dev[14:53:09] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has joined #oi-dev[14:59:36] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:47:07] <xenol> wohohoo[15:47:19] <xenol> it's too early for spring cleanup[15:54:34] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc108961-cmbg20-2-0-cust21.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:13:27] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-10-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[16:13:43] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-10-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[16:16:18] *** chimay <chimay!~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay> has joined #oi-dev[16:18:28] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-10-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:23:17] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[16:24:47] <igork> htop in zone - https://cl.ly/2f2e3t460K3d[16:25:09] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has joined #oi-dev[16:34:01] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:34:22] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has joined #oi-dev[16:49:40] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[16:52:35] <alanc> alp: yes, we still use the Motif 2.1 from closed source CDE[16:52:57] <alanc> (I think OpenCDE used OpenMotif instead, which has some incompatibilities)[16:54:00] <alanc> and clearly the reason for LLVM versioning is to not end up with much smaller numbers than gcc's new annual major release scheme[17:03:57] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[17:35:51] *** chimay <chimay!~chimay@unaffiliated/chimay> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[17:50:44] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@213.251.198.102> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:52:38] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@213.251.198.102> has joined #oi-dev[17:54:38] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[17:54:53] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[18:14:39] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.187.215.154> has joined #oi-dev[18:34:00] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAE67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:49:29] *** tsundoku <tsundoku!~tsundoku@hako.tsundoku.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.1.1)[18:55:29] *** grueni <grueni!~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-134-3-91-29.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:01:08] <leoric> any idea why we should ship 32-bit tcsh?[19:03:59] *** wyatt <wyatt!~wyatt@2605:6000:3b61:0:fcf6:ed34:b778:a871> has joined #oi-dev[19:06:16] <richlowe> if you're intending to go 64bit only, I can't think of a reason.[19:06:50] <richlowe> don't think it can load shared objects as modules like zsh or anything, anyway.[19:06:57] <richlowe> and even with zsh, I bet there's not really any 3rd party ones :)[19:18:41] <tsoome> oh well. few nice bombs….[19:24:24] <richlowe> tsoome: ?[19:24:57] <leoric> ah, it seems I got fine prompt in tcsh only because my home has ~/.cshrc from BSD times[19:25:23] <tsoome> was supposed to go to #illumos :D[19:28:56] <leoric> ok, tcsh scripting was never fun...[19:29:41] <xenol> s/scripting/as shell/[19:29:58] <leoric> no, as login shell it's fine[19:30:58] <leoric> the only disappointment is that every time you want it to do something automatic, you end up with sh -c ''[19:31:45] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAE67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[19:32:30] <xenol> well, I dare to disagree with you ;)[19:33:48] <tsoome> i used tcsh for years and years:)[19:35:31] <leoric> One time as linux user on FreeBSD I've set /usr/local/bin/bash as user (or perhaps even root) shell. After rebuilding some ports it stopped working... I've never done it again[19:37:00] *** tsundoku <tsundoku!~tsundoku@hako.tsundoku.ne.jp> has joined #oi-dev[19:38:20] <xenol> leoric: that was your fault, you should have used bash-static[19:38:32] <leoric> :)[19:38:38] <xenol> and besides tcsh as a login shell has nothing do with this[19:38:50] <xenol> to do with this*[19:39:06] <xenol> I have been using zsh for a long time now and can look back[19:39:22] <leoric> yes, but as a result I got used to it[19:39:29] <leoric> oh, it's too clever[19:39:45] <leoric> at least a version I've seen last time[19:40:03] <leoric> I don't like soft which thinks that it's too clever[19:40:04] <xenol> and say that every shell I have ever used was not that powerful ;)[19:40:12] <richlowe> zsh is great because if it goes wrong, yelling at Danek tends to work.[19:40:18] <xenol> :D[19:43:37] <leoric> xenol: have you looked at gfx PR? It's essentially removing components/openindiana/drm, components/x11/libdrm, dropping two packages from illumos-gate and integrating gfx-drm (Makefile, empty p5m and packages.ignore)[19:43:56] <xenol> not yet[19:44:07] <xenol> I need to look at tsoome's change first[19:44:15] <leoric> OK[19:51:22] <leoric> xenol: BTW, https://wiki.openindiana.org/oi/Recent+Wiki+Changes seems stopped updating again[20:04:22] *** wyatt <wyatt!~wyatt@2605:6000:3b61:0:fcf6:ed34:b778:a871> has quit IRC ()[20:15:06] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.187.215.154> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:48:54] *** MarcelT__ is now known as MarcelT[21:57:55] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAE67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[22:14:55] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2735: SUCCESS in 2 hr 33 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2735/[22:21:52] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAE67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[23:07:40] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@46.147.117.24> has joined #oi-dev[23:08:55] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc07-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:09:20] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc07-o.oracle.com> has joined #oi-dev[23:09:20] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[23:40:33] <xenol> leoric: https://gist.github.com/xen0l/8bafd0bd8cf700ef071b7cafef2b858b[23:40:41] <xenol> we might need to recompile libkstat?[23:40:45] <xenol> err, nicstat?[23:58:24] *** ozquera2 <ozquera2!~ozquera@p57BDAE67.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)