December 12, 2016 
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December 12, 2016 [00:00:05] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@dynamic-109-81-208-208.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:00:22] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@dynamic-109-81-208-208.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has joined #oi-dev[00:08:29] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@dynamic-109-81-208-208.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:31:45] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@tortuga.telka.sk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:32:53] *** estibi <estibi!~estibi@edo198144.sne.jp> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:12:35] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #4714: SUCCESS in 7 min 23 sec: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/4714/[01:16:53] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has joined #oi-dev[01:18:51] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:19:08] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@li755-21.members.linode.com> has joined #oi-dev[01:33:14] *** andy_js 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<ptribble!~ptribble@cpc108961-cmbg20-2-0-cust21.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #oi-dev[10:10:10] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[10:18:42] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:19:01] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has joined #oi-dev[10:25:47] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc108961-cmbg20-2-0-cust21.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:30:25] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:30:34] *** xenol_ is now known as xenol[10:30:35] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has joined #oi-dev[10:39:04] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has joined #oi-dev[10:41:38] *** igork <igork!~igork@91.204.58.44> has joined #oi-dev[11:09:54] <jimklimov> xenol, are you here? :)[11:10:42] <jimklimov> and/or alp?[11:10:49] <alp> hi[11:11:08] <jimklimov> I was wondering about trying the new DRM and USB3 bits on some laptops around[11:11:33] <jimklimov> is there a pkg repo and list of packages to install into an alternate BE?[11:11:37] <jimklimov> or only ISOs?[11:12:07] <jimklimov> also, btw, is USB3 expected to work also with Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C v2 spec, afaik)?[11:12:23] <jimklimov> or is this something completely different again?[11:14:12] <jimklimov> and also if installing DRM and/or USB3 into an ABE is possible, is there some specific, or min/max, version of common OI/Hipster that should be there? e.g. can I update to today's state, clone the new BE, pull those pkgs into the clone, and boot into it?[11:16:19] <alp> jimklimov: Don't know exactly about USB3 bins. As for drm, there's http://pkg.openindiana.org/drm-testing/en/index.shtml with 6 packages, which you want to install over recent hipster[11:16:35] <alp> I've compiled them on one week old OI[11:17:10] <jimklimov> a specific "recent hipster" (e.g. from 2012-mm-dd timestamp) or any recent (today) should do?[11:17:31] <alp> todays should work[11:18:00] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[11:47:46] <alp> running vncviewer over ssh-forwarded X11...[11:51:19] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has joined #oi-dev[11:57:18] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc108961-cmbg20-2-0-cust21.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #oi-dev[12:11:47] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:14:00] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[12:26:58] <jimklimov> thats... inconvientional, but why not? :)[12:27:01] <jimklimov> can lag though[12:28:51] <tsoome> thunderbolt 3 is using the same connector but we would still need driver I’m afraid.[12:31:42] <tsoome> btw: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/182179/2016/12/sort/time_rev/page/1/entry/1:136/20161212054127:86582B3C-C057-11E6-8C19-B34D97A3EA73/[13:14:07] <jimklimov> Did I make a typo?..[13:14:08] <jimklimov> # pkg -R /a set-publisher -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/drm-testing drm-testing[13:14:08] <jimklimov> pkg set-publisher: One or more of the repository origin(s) listed below contains package data for userland; not drm-testing:[13:14:08] <jimklimov> http://pkg.openindiana.org/drm-testing/[13:14:08] <jimklimov> This is either because one of the repository origins is not valid for this publisher, or because the list of known publishers retrieved from the repository origin does not match the client.[13:14:58] <jimklimov> alp, xenol, ^^^ ?[13:15:07] <alp> pkg -R /a set-publisher -g http://pkg.openindiana.org/drm-testing/ userland[13:15:27] <alp> I didn't change publisher[13:15:41] <jimklimov> ah... would conflict with r61 :)[13:16:01] <alp> well, you actually is not supposed to have it :)[13:16:20] <jimklimov> ok, will look later then, gotta run off :([13:20:42] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[13:39:59] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has joined #oi-dev[13:44:51] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@220.166.250.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[13:56:43] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #oi-dev[14:15:08] *** Toastbomb2 <Toastbomb2!~yaaic@220.116.86.136> has joined #oi-dev[15:12:59] <Woodstock> am i the only one who has problems with x11 cut&paste in vim since the update to vim 8?[15:16:40] *** Toastbomb2 <Toastbomb2!~yaaic@220.116.86.136> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:17:42] <nikolam> How to reproduce it?[15:18:20] <alp> set mouse=r ?[15:18:37] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[15:18:50] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[15:22:31] <alp> it seems this default has changed[15:22:52] <Woodstock> run vim in an xterm and enter insert mode, select some text in a different xterm, paste with middle click[15:23:04] <Woodstock> works in vim -C, but not without -C[15:23:42] <Woodstock> indeed, set mouse=r makes it work. wtf?[15:25:08] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:25:46] <alp> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/vim_use/iXH_Zxj8iBA[15:31:20] <Woodstock> makes me wonder whether i should just start to use emacs even for the small stuff, like editing commit messages :)[15:33:59] <alp> never tried it...[15:34:34] <tsoome> thats the reason why some are just dropping vim;)[15:44:55] * ptribble still wants EDT, TPU, EVE, and LSE back[15:46:05] <Woodstock> i get around in EDT, but i never understood the other stuff[15:46:50] <Woodstock> but at least there exits a teco implementation for unix :)[16:28:03] <igork> Woodstock: i'm using mcedit with Midnight Commander :)[16:28:07] <igork> as editor[16:28:21] <igork> colored[16:40:03] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@142-10-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[17:04:31] <richlowe> Woodstock: there's teco, and there's also video-teco, which is like vi except if it came direct from teco rather than via ed.[17:06:17] <richlowe> pretty sure I actually have that packaged somewhere :)[17:06:47] *** merzo_ <merzo_!~merzo@193.105.70.110> has joined #oi-dev[17:08:33] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@91.217.179.122> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[17:10:30] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:11:10] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[17:34:28] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2724: SUCCESS in 2 hr 49 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2724/[18:23:05] <Woodstock> richlowe: i didn't know about video-teco, but it makes sense. i always thought using teco felt like vi without seeing what you're doing :)[18:29:18] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:29:42] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has joined #oi-dev[18:38:40] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.187.213.205> has joined #oi-dev[18:40:21] *** merzo_ <merzo_!~merzo@193.105.70.110> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:54:25] *** ozquera1 <ozquera1!~ozquera@p57BDAE80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[18:57:48] <xenol> I also didn't do anything with drm-testing[18:57:59] <xenol> I also don't remember to create it.[18:58:06] <xenol> alp: was it me who created drm-testing?[19:07:54] <leoric> no, me[19:08:08] <leoric> I don't remember anything about USB[20:22:45] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.187.213.205> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:31:42] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@p4FC086E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[20:33:16] <jeffpc> are there known problems with firefox and webgl?[20:33:20] <jeffpc> http://webglreport.com/[20:33:41] <jeffpc> it tells me that my laptop (with a nvidia card) doesn't support it[20:41:53] <richlowe> I know chrome has blacklists.[20:42:01] <richlowe> of chip/driver/os combinations that choke[20:42:19] <richlowe> might want to check how firefox decides what to do[20:53:22] <jeffpc> hrm, about:support says: Blocked for your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues.[20:54:24] <igork> richlowe: for your branch - uts/increase-fd-limit - can you specify commits?[20:54:30] <igork> what i can checrry-pick[20:54:53] <igork> i can see about 4 commits - please confirm[20:56:57] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:57:22] <richlowe> you know 'git pull' exists, right?[20:57:40] <igork> yes[20:57:40] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has joined #oi-dev[20:57:55] <igork> but - i'm looking github web[20:58:05] <igork> to be sure - i'm not mised[20:58:17] <igork> and - i can't pull to my tree[20:58:27] <igork> i can just cherry-pick[20:59:57] <jeffpc> about:support is saying:[21:00:01] <jeffpc> GLXtest process failed: VENDOR[21:00:06] <jeffpc> Blocked for your graphics card because of unresolved driver issues.[21:03:59] <jeffpc> case Ci.nsIGfxInfo.FEATURE_BLOCKED_DEVICE:[21:03:59] <jeffpc> case Ci.nsIGfxInfo.FEATURE_DISCOURAGED:[21:04:02] <jeffpc> one of those two[21:26:23] *** gwr <gwr!~gwr@pool-72-74-26-75.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #oi-dev[21:26:23] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o gwr[21:34:39] <jeffpc> ok, figured it out[21:34:56] <jeffpc> GfxInfoX11.cpp does a uname(2) call[21:35:06] <jeffpc> and then tries to get the sysname & release[21:35:17] <jeffpc> somehow on my system one of them is empty[21:35:32] <jeffpc> which triggers one of the subsequent checks[21:35:54] <jeffpc> thankfully, there are env vars to override those values[21:36:00] <jeffpc> these worked for me:[21:36:00] <jeffpc> MOZ_GFX_SPOOF_OS_RELEASE=4.0[21:36:01] <jeffpc> MOZ_GFX_SPOOF_OS=Linux[21:36:46] <jeffpc> it'd be great if someone running stock OI illumos could check that it does fix things[21:36:57] <jeffpc> and if it does, firefox could use a small patch[21:48:44] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2725: SUCCESS in 2 hr 43 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2725/[22:05:44] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc108961-cmbg20-2-0-cust21.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:10:54] *** jollyd <jollyd!~alarcher@dhcp-46-249-226-11.loqal.no> has joined #oi-dev[22:11:16] <jollyd> jeffpc: you can override the settings in Firefox to force webgl[22:11:33] *** merzo_ <merzo_!~merzo@93-195-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[22:11:46] <jollyd> this is documented somewhere on Mozilla's website, I do not remember exactly the keys to alter[22:13:34] <jollyd> jeffpc: and if Firefox crashes with webgl you need to reset a counter to zero in the config[22:20:25] *** jollyd <jollyd!~alarcher@dhcp-46-249-226-11.loqal.no> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[22:58:29] <jeffpc> forcing webgl via the config does not work since it fails to auto-detect opengl[22:58:45] <jeffpc> apparently, the problem is that the return value check of uname(2) call is wrong in firefox[23:08:11] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc07-o.oracle.com> has joined #oi-dev[23:08:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc