December 10, 2016 
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December 10, 2016 [00:47:05] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js)[01:29:58] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-173-48-119-88.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #oi-dev[02:32:04] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #4712: SUCCESS in 1 hr 26 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/4712/[03:19:40] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[03:24:11] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[03:32:56] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[03:41:49] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[03:44:56] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[03:51:59] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:35:39] *** echelog-2` <echelog-2`!~echelog-2@108.61.103.42> has joined #oi-dev[04:35:39] *** echelog-2 <echelog-2!~echelog-2@108.61.103.42> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[04:36:33] *** echelog-2` is now known as echelog-2[04:37:19] *** xenol_ <xenol_!~xenol@2a01:8c00:ff48:1a6c::dead:beef> has joined #oi-dev[04:37:21] *** jbronn_ <jbronn_!~jbronn@162-202-173-45.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #oi-dev[04:37:26] *** Alasdairrr <Alasdairrr!~alasdair@irc.eu-man.everycity.co.uk> has joined #oi-dev[04:37:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Alasdairrr[04:38:35] *** jbronn <jbronn!~jbronn@162-202-173-45.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Write error: Broken pipe)[04:38:35] *** Alasdairr <Alasdairr!~alasdair@irc.eu-man.everycity.co.uk> has quit IRC (Write error: Broken pipe)[04:38:43] *** xenol <xenol!~xenol@2a01:8c00:ff48:1a6c::dead:beef> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:46:40] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-173-48-119-88.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[05:08:22] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #oi-dev[05:09:26] <nikolam> I can't ssh to remote hosts for several days after update. It created much trouble for me because I was under impression that remote routers were misconfigured, when OI was the trouble all the time[05:09:53] <nikolam> ssh -l remote_ip or remote_ip -p port does not work or waits forever[05:11:04] <nikolam> luckily I have dual-boot OtherOS to check it's OI's problem[05:15:21] <nikolam> and thunderbird constantly drobs core dumps on exit after last several updates[05:23:06] <nikolam> why idnkint removal is important, does it need upstream update or in project update etc[05:26:44] <nikolam> big bug on 'always loud' audio on every restart is added shortly before latest snapshot.[05:35:03] <nikolam> I don't understand why searching packages (also in advanced search) on pkg.openindiana.org/hipster , gives me all bunch of packages that does not have search term in it's package name[05:37:30] <nikolam> I would think that consolidation/osnet/osnet-incorporation is more precise then 'osnet-incorporation', but it's not.[05:49:18] <richlowe> packages which depend on it, probably.[05:58:58] <nikolam> why they are displayedif search term is about package name[06:02:20] <richlowe> because it isn't about package name.[06:03:11] <nikolam> then what about it is, fmri[06:03:43] <richlowe> http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/search.shtml?token=*%2Fbin%2Fcat&action=Search[06:03:55] <richlowe> content.[06:05:33] <nikolam> Also I don't know it it's me or that search web page is very slow[06:07:16] <nikolam> When entering full package name, it lists only that package, so I was under impression it searches package names.[06:09:05] <nikolam> was looking for specific versions of osnet to try to figure when my ssh stopped working. Advanced search is for that, but entering exact package name.[06:11:55] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[06:13:49] <richlowe> ssh isn't in illumos anymore.[06:13:59] <richlowe> it's openssh out of userland[06:15:56] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[06:16:46] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[06:17:52] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #oi-dev[06:21:47] <nikolam> even with newest hipster ssh -l IP opens after a long time and ssh -l IP -p port does not open. Opens on same network/host on OtherOS[06:23:27] <richlowe> ssh -l <username> ip, I'm assuming?[06:23:44] <richlowe> given -l is to specify the username[06:23:52] <nikolam> yup[06:24:20] <richlowe> usually that behaviour means that the host you're ssh'ing from doesn't reverse resolve.[06:24:29] <richlowe> so it's waiting for the timeout of the reverse lookup[06:24:52] <nikolam> wht, why it should wait for any lookup, when I gave it IP??[06:25:09] <richlowe> the remote does the lookup of the host connecting _to it_[06:25:15] <nikolam> it is new behaviour, disabling me to ssh into host, wasn't doing so few days ago[06:25:29] <nikolam> why then it does work on windows?[06:25:34] <nikolam> with putty[06:25:48] <nikolam> so iyt's not about remote host, it's about OI's ssh[06:26:29] <richlowe> or the resolution works when it's windows...[06:27:07] <nikolam> yes, so it's OI bug, because it is just plain ssh-ing to IP and shoudld work on OI like few days before[06:28:08] <nikolam> just ned to figure out when it started happening. I really also don't understand what resolving has to do with ssh-ing to IP, even on receiving (server) side[06:29:53] <richlowe> openssh hasn't been touched since October 19th.[06:30:20] <nikolam> will boot to previous BE before it to check it out[06:31:41] <nikolam> but it worked few days before now, so it must be more recent[06:34:57] <nikolam> also when I ssh to OI box, 'home' key does not work to put me on first character in CLI line, it now just prints "~"[06:39:16] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[06:44:09] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[06:50:26] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[06:52:22] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #oi-dev[06:53:02] <nikolam> this isn't going to work, I simply must be able to log to remote host with ssh -l -p from OI to get work done[06:54:03] <nikolam> booted BE as old as 2016-10-09 19:29 and behaves the same[06:59:23] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:40:58] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #oi-dev[07:45:41] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@176.212.38.60> has joined #oi-dev[07:49:35] <nikolam> I checked, server IP I connect to does not resolve, client IP that I use ssh -l -p from does resolve, but again I don't understand why that could be the problem when ssh is from IP to IP and from OtherOS working but not from OI[07:50:40] <nikolam> when ssh-ing internally to other subnet/ip range in LAN, it can ssh to it, but it waits very long time to log in[07:52:29] <leoric> ssh -d -v on one side and ssh -v on other could help[07:52:56] <nikolam> what points to resolving is that also on linux box, I can't ssh to that fixed IP, giving error it can not resolve it, and it is true it can't.[07:53:13] <nikolam> but on windows box everything works. will try it now leoric[07:56:52] <nikolam> both client ubuntu LTS and OI has same OpenSSH_7.2p2 , server is Ubuntu LTS[07:58:37] <leoric> look what it's waiting for[07:58:40] <nikolam> both say No route to hos[07:59:08] <nikolam> traceroute finds host and it pings[07:59:36] <leoric> have you tried ssh -v ?[07:59:44] <leoric> can it find dns?[08:00:04] <leoric> can it try using gssapi?[08:00:12] <nikolam> yes, that's how I got message form both debug: and ssh: "no route to host"[08:00:53] <leoric> is it about client / server host or some other host?[08:00:58] <leoric> like kdc ?[08:02:01] <nikolam> not using kerberos as I know, just plain default install of ubuntu on server side[08:02:50] <leoric> suppose that you know nothing, look at ssh -v (or ssh -vv ) and so on[08:03:16] <leoric> It tries to reach some host. The question is which one.[08:04:05] <leoric> perhaps, truss could also help.[08:04:34] <nikolam> I am giving him just an IP address of the host , it is forwarded high port (like 55123 to 22 on internal net), but it works from windows as client on same conditions[08:05:06] <nikolam> so same error on ubuntu and OI, with same Openssh, that is strange.[08:38:21] <leoric> what a hell is Z39.50???[08:49:38] *** v_a_b <v_a_b!~volker@p5B3716FA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[09:20:18] *** LeftWing__ <LeftWing__!~leftwing@165.225.150.55> has joined #oi-dev[09:20:18] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LeftWing__[09:21:38] *** LeftWing <LeftWing!~leftwing@165.225.150.55> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:49:11] *** Meths_ <Meths_!~meths@95.151.244.241> has joined #oi-dev[09:49:11] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Meths_[09:50:12] *** Meths <Meths!~meths@95.151.244.195> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[10:02:25] *** Agnar_ <Agnar_!~olbohlen@eenfach.de> has joined #oi-dev[10:05:33] *** Agnar <Agnar!~olbohlen@eenfach.de> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[10:05:33] *** trisk <trisk!~trisk@162-228-250-121.lightspeed.tpkaks.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[10:05:33] *** estibi <estibi!~estibi@edo198144.sne.jp> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[10:11:00] *** trisk <trisk!~trisk@162-228-250-121.lightspeed.tpkaks.sbcglobal.net> has joined #oi-dev[10:11:00] *** estibi <estibi!~estibi@edo198144.sne.jp> has joined #oi-dev[10:32:39] *** trisk <trisk!~trisk@162-228-250-121.lightspeed.tpkaks.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[10:32:39] *** estibi <estibi!~estibi@edo198144.sne.jp> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[10:33:34] *** trisk <trisk!~trisk@162-228-250-121.lightspeed.tpkaks.sbcglobal.net> has joined #oi-dev[10:33:34] *** estibi <estibi!~estibi@edo198144.sne.jp> has joined #oi-dev[10:38:11] <leoric> this stupid test suite was never designed to run when build_dir != source_dir... And this shows only as one core dump meaning 'I can't find this file'....[12:11:59] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has joined #oi-dev[12:36:08] <nikolam> "Ready to format. Formatting cannot be interrupted[12:36:08] <nikolam> and takes 169 minutes (estimated). Continue? y[12:36:08] <nikolam> " and it really can not be interrupted :)[12:37:26] <nikolam> and pfexec format in another ssh connection.. while first is doing it.. also can not be interrupted.. :P[12:38:45] <tsoome> why are you doing low level format on disk?[12:40:19] <nikolam> probably because I am a) stupid b) disk already has ufs config c) already was doing destructive verify d) want to add it to zfs rpool[12:45:21] <tsoome> destructive verify is pretty much the only really justified one:P[12:45:22] <tsoome> :D[12:45:35] <nikolam> :)[12:46:35] <tsoome> but, for that you have analyze menu, no need to format… anyhow, you probably wanna pray that format will not mess up your disk;)[12:48:04] <nikolam> yes, was doing analyze before on it/them, and now I see partitions are still there and want to add it and..[12:49:01] <tsoome> rpool is using MBR partition?[12:49:40] <nikolam> i's sparc so whatever it is using on first disk[12:49:58] <tsoome> ah, sparc has VTOC on sector 0[12:50:34] <tsoome> so editing in format -> partition is just all you need there[12:51:21] <nikolam> a) is now even more likely :P[12:52:31] <tsoome> the problem is that our disk management tools are just too messy.[12:56:51] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@188-92-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[12:58:17] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@188-92-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:00:10] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@188-92-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[13:24:36] *** js <js!~js@webkeks.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[13:31:36] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2722: SUCCESS in 2 hr 41 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2722/[13:51:44] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@tortuga.telka.sk> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[13:51:44] *** herzen <herzen!~quassel@dynamic-acs-24-144-173-48.zoominternet.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[13:51:44] *** ngchk1 <ngchk1!~wilkens@business-178-015-081-200.static.arcor-ip.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[13:51:55] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@tortuga.telka.sk> has joined #oi-dev[13:51:55] *** herzen <herzen!~quassel@dynamic-acs-24-144-173-48.zoominternet.net> has joined #oi-dev[13:51:55] *** ngchk1 <ngchk1!~wilkens@business-178-015-081-200.static.arcor-ip.net> has joined #oi-dev[14:01:14] *** Meths_ <Meths_!~meths@95.151.244.241> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:02:04] *** Meths <Meths!~meths@95.151.244.241> has joined #oi-dev[14:02:04] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Meths[14:54:03] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@dynamic-109-81-208-66.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has joined #oi-dev[15:07:00] *** gvm <gvm!~gvm@cpc91192-cmbg18-2-0-cust82.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #oi-dev[16:06:08] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:13:47] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2723: SUCCESS in 2 hr 42 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2723/[16:47:07] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~chatzilla@pool-173-49-14-128.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has joined #oi-dev[16:49:55] *** jimklimov1 <jimklimov1!~E9926362@dynamic-109-81-208-66.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has joined #oi-dev[16:53:24] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@dynamic-109-81-208-66.ipv4.broadband.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:14:20] *** gvm <gvm!~gvm@cpc91192-cmbg18-2-0-cust82.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 45.5.1/20161129180326])[17:17:20] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@188-92-133-95.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:33:17] <xenol_> leoric: I certainly don't. it might be of importance to desktop users. I dont use OI GUI.[21:51:06] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~chatzilla@pool-173-49-14-128.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has left #oi-dev[23:50:53] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc07-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:51:10] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc07-o.oracle.com> has joined #oi-dev[23:51:10] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc