December 9, 2016 
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December 9, 2016 [00:42:50] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2720: SUCCESS in 2 hr 41 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2720/[01:05:04] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js)[01:11:50] *** alp <alp!~alp@pyhalov.cc.rsu.ru> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[01:12:11] *** alp <alp!~alp@195.208.255.102> has joined #oi-dev[01:13:40] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #4711: SUCCESS in 8 min 10 sec: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/4711/[01:24:03] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[01:58:11] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:58:20] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[02:09:14] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[02:11:32] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[02:17:44] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[02:19:46] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-173-48-119-88.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #oi-dev[03:09:35] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[03:48:45] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:49:02] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has joined #oi-dev[03:49:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[03:58:48] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[04:08:43] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[04:12:34] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[04:49:26] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[04:56:42] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@93-195-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[05:04:48] <makruger> [21:23:35] <leoric> put something useful there :->[05:05:01] <makruger> Many good points there...[05:05:26] <makruger> Front page does have a link to illumos man pages.[05:05:57] <makruger> Would be nice if we could host OI man pages on DLC and reference those as well.[05:07:04] <richlowe> the software illumos uses is on LeftWing's github[05:07:05] <makruger> Along those lines.....can OI access man pages via firefox by doing a man:<something>[05:07:14] <richlowe> (also the stuff smartos uses, iirc)[05:07:28] <richlowe> not 100% sure how it handles random pages, v. our own -man or mandoc.[05:08:45] <makruger> I think I have leftwing's repo bookmarked or starred.[05:28:35] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-173-48-119-88.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[06:00:15] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[06:04:19] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@46.147.112.110> has joined #oi-dev[06:22:38] <leoric> our Firefox calls man uri handler (yelp), and it can open such uris. But yelp doesn't handle \- well[06:35:25] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~chatzilla@pool-173-49-14-128.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:42:04] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[07:07:16] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@46.147.112.110> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:36:27] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[07:41:16] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@93-195-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[07:58:09] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[08:02:14] *** grueni <grueni!~chatzilla@HSI-KBW-134-3-91-29.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #oi-dev[08:04:51] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[08:06:15] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[08:09:11] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has joined #oi-dev[08:16:50] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:16:58] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has joined #oi-dev[08:38:33] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@91.217.179.122> has joined #oi-dev[08:47:26] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[09:00:41] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:11:17] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[09:11:56] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has joined #oi-dev[09:16:42] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@143-10-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[09:16:56] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[09:53:48] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[10:08:47] <alp> oooooooooooooppppppps[10:09:19] <alp> our getpass() cut down last password symbols...[10:09:23] <alp> how pleasant[10:09:52] <alp> what f*n standard required this mess?[10:30:18] *** nikolam <nikolam!~nikolam@unaffiliated/nikolam> has joined #oi-dev[10:36:55] <jimklimov> you mean 8+ ?[10:37:11] <jimklimov> the crypt{} passwords only used the first 8 chars, ignored the rest[10:37:28] <jimklimov> 8 bytes, rather :)[10:39:57] <alp> jimklimov: can you at least split this line ( cd $(@D) && ./configure -c "$(CC)" -m ...) in several, so that it could be readable[10:39:58] <alp> ?[10:40:14] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has joined #oi-dev[10:41:28] <jimklimov> BTW, as a side comment: I was long annoyed by the "oi/hipster" as the placeholder for "master" branch (something to remember while typing or using dumber quick-scripts that expect verbatim "upstream/master" to merge/rebase)[10:43:05] <alp> Likely we don't want to change it now.. Perhaps unfortunate decision, but it's too late[10:44:43] <jimklimov> yes, so we have a solution :-)[10:45:02] <jimklimov> https://github.com/jimklimov/git-scripts/blob/master/git-branch-alias[10:45:12] <jimklimov> snatched it, liked it, added to my collection[10:45:34] <jimklimov> in a workspace you can just do `git branch-alias master oi/hipster` et voila! :)[10:46:05] <jimklimov> $ git branch | grep master[10:46:05] <jimklimov> master -> oi/hipster[10:47:12] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc108961-cmbg20-2-0-cust21.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has joined #oi-dev[10:51:27] <jimklimov> alas, it does not work for "git rebase -i upstream/master" mantra, but still is at least something (e.g. can "git rebase -i master" of a feature branch against current copy of "master == oi/hipster")[10:51:51] <jimklimov> sysstat makefile updated and squashed[10:54:33] <alp> Now I'm going to press you a bit about https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/2616/files and separate Makefile :)[10:54:56] <alp> thanks for systat[11:01:19] *** chatter <chatter!6dc9892f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.201.137.47> has joined #oi-dev[11:02:20] *** chatter <chatter!6dc9892f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.109.201.137.47> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:03:21] <jimklimov> you'd make me sad with all this overhead done by my hands rather than yours... initiative is punishable? ;')[11:03:44] <jimklimov> my recipe works, so the changes are your initiative, so you go get punished with subsequent PR :)[11:04:02] <jimklimov> anyhow, away to lunch now...[11:04:09] <jimklimov> maybe later...[11:09:27] <alp> well, I have some view of 'right syntax' for Makefiles... It would be good if we could discuss and settle it in some article and, perhaps, even lint :)[11:40:17] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:44:30] <xenol> alp: that cve thing would be nice, but I think that it doesn't work for our model[11:45:01] <alp> hi[11:45:19] <alp> several months ago OpenVPN devs looked for OpenSolaris build bot[11:45:44] <alp> It seems they found one, but perhaps we could ask if they still need help?[11:49:03] <xenol> yeah[12:04:31] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[12:11:19] <alp> gwr: do you want try upstreaming https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/oi/hipster/components/network/openvpn/patches/ipsec-bypass.patch (if you have time)?[12:15:18] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has joined #oi-dev[12:20:37] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[12:26:57] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAE4B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #oi-dev[12:50:06] <xenol> alp: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/commit/a6d6f1a3b6b5112d903e08b9956997393b39feea#diff-66fc9fe42c5e4b0cf76073432ec5ace7 you possibly want to upstream that ;)[12:50:17] <xenol> openvpn 2.4 is supposed to be released on 28 dec[12:50:42] <jimklimov> cute[13:01:45] <alp> I've sent it to openvpn dev ml[13:02:42] <xenol> my mail to openvpn dev-ml hasn't reached the list :([13:05:09] <jimklimov> Perhaps try forums.openvpn.net - a few years back I posted some updates through that[13:07:32] <jimklimov> On the other hand no, not quite... the forum discussion was also stale - but I got Kazuyoshi into the loop via that post, and solved my problem that way ;)[13:37:16] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2721: SUCCESS in 2 hr 41 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2721/[14:02:17] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[15:22:05] 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<freakazoid0223_!~chatzilla@pool-173-49-14-128.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[20:25:59] *** alp <alp!~alp@195.208.255.102> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:27:26] *** alp <alp!~alp@195.208.255.102> has joined #oi-dev[20:27:33] *** kmays <kmays!42675c82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.103.92.130> has joined #oi-dev[20:28:14] <kmays> About chat tools, this one has some popularity: https://www.hipchat.com/[20:30:19] <kmays> Most chat/collaboration tools are web-based so it is possible we don't have to include them on the ISO/USB and migrate them to IPS repo.[20:30:46] <kmays> (although, they are already there anyhow)[20:33:19] <kmays> LibreOffice seems more important for the Live ISO, but could be a spinoff build versus the main snapshot spin.[20:33:34] <kmays> Just a thought.[20:35:15] *** kmays <kmays!42675c82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.103.92.130> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[20:45:03] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:53:35] *** alp <alp!~alp@195.208.255.102> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:54:50] *** alp <alp!~alp@195.208.255.102> has joined #oi-dev[21:16:25] *** freakazoid0223_ <freakazoid0223_!~chatzilla@pool-173-49-14-128.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has joined #oi-dev[21:18:23] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~chatzilla@pool-173-49-14-128.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:39:52] *** freakazoid0223_ <freakazoid0223_!~chatzilla@pool-173-49-14-128.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has left #oi-dev[21:48:22] <xenol> kmays what do you want to do with hipchat? it's not very clear[21:48:27] <xenol> also, slack is a better option..[22:10:11] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@37.112.230.90> has joined #oi-dev[22:14:28] *** alp <alp!~alp@195.208.255.102> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[22:15:30] *** alp <alp!~alp@195.208.255.102> has joined #oi-dev[22:35:09] *** grueni 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They range from slightly confusing to totally unrelated to current issue....[23:16:13] <leoric> xenol: have you seen https://www.illumos.org/issues/7640 ?[23:18:54] <leoric> jimklimov, xenol: as for https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/2585, I have a big question - 'do we need this package?'[23:24:26] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@37.112.230.90> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:50:59] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc07-o.oracle.com> has joined #oi-dev[23:50:59] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc