December 8, 2016 
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December 8, 2016 [00:03:50] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[00:34:52] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[01:00:20] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[01:11:17] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has quit IRC (Quit: andy_js)[01:12:45] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[01:14:08] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[01:33:41] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[01:43:54] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[01:53:11] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:55:03] *** Zewwy <Zewwy!~zem@208.81.6.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:12:14] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[02:29:05] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[02:33:06] <oibot> Project illumos-gate build #4710: SUCCESS in 1 hr 27 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/illumos-gate/4710/[02:58:51] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[03:07:48] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@93-195-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:08:23] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@93-195-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net> has joined #oi-dev[03:13:00] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@93-195-113-92.pool.ukrtel.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)[03:48:06] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:48:24] *** alanc <alanc!~alanc@inet-hqmc01-o.oracle.com> has joined #oi-dev[03:48:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o alanc[03:57:58] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[04:00:57] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[04:07:54] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:09:46] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[04:26:27] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-108-20-232-57.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has joined #oi-dev[05:10:57] *** Agnar <Agnar!~olbohlen@eenfach.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:11:04] *** Agnar <Agnar!~olbohlen@eenfach.de> has joined #oi-dev[05:35:19] *** makruger <makruger!~Michael@pool-108-20-232-57.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[05:38:50] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[06:17:25] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@5.165.255.122> has joined #oi-dev[06:25:49] <leoric> xenol: re https://www.illumos.org/issues/7648 - should I fix only DEFPARENT or do we also want to set DEFSHL to bash?[06:41:48] <leoric> xenol: please, review https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/2661[06:47:17] *** freakazoid0223 <freakazoid0223!~chatzilla@pool-173-49-14-128.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:47:34] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@5.165.255.122> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:21:38] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #oi-dev[07:29:41] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Quit: tozhu)[07:30:00] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #oi-dev[07:39:43] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds)[07:41:02] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #oi-dev[08:05:09] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:13:56] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[08:17:08] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #oi-dev[08:23:17] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:25:18] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[08:32:27] *** merzo <merzo!~merzo@91.217.179.122> has joined #oi-dev[08:46:21] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has joined #oi-dev[09:02:40] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@220-90-235-80.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[09:32:18] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@116-10-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #oi-dev[09:57:02] <alp> also I've put some analysis of userdefs.h usage in https://www.illumos.org/issues/7648 .[09:58:11] <alp> Briefly, it's mostly used only by useradd/usermod and friends. Also passwd uses DEFSHL constant in passwd -e dialog (when user's shell is not set in /etc/passwd)[10:15:52] *** LeftWing <LeftWing!~leftwing@165.225.150.55> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:17:21] *** LeftWing__ <LeftWing__!~leftwing@165.225.150.55> has joined #oi-dev[10:17:21] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o LeftWing__[10:36:57] *** andy_js <andy_js!~andy@2.218.92.54> has joined #oi-dev[10:39:18] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)[10:57:18] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[11:30:16] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #oi-dev[11:36:47] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)[12:10:31] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[12:12:07] *** FuntDobraWork <FuntDobraWork!~FuntDobra@212.34.53.106> has joined #oi-dev[12:14:55] *** ptribble 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<tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has joined #oi-dev[15:55:28] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@223.85.203.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:08:14] <xenol> alp: LGTM[16:17:38] <alp> xenol: I'll try to talk to gwr tonight, if we have to add it as local patch[16:17:58] <alp> xenol: what about https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/pull/2564[16:18:00] <alp> ?[16:18:57] <alp> I'm not excited about this COMPONENT_PRE_BUILD_ACTION, but perhaps it's just me[16:19:38] *** gwr <gwr!~gwr@pool-72-74-26-75.bstnma.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:34:29] *** jimklimov <jimklimov!~E9926362@31.7.243.238> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:34:53] *** tsoome <tsoome!~tsoome@116-10-196-88.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: tsoome)[16:51:09] *** FuntDobra <FuntDobra!~FuntDobra@213.251.198.102> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:08:40] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[17:14:27] *** tsoome 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<leoric!~leoric@188.232.90.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:15:28] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.232.90.114> has joined #oi-dev[20:47:27] <leoric> has somebody tested new drm images (http://dlc-int.openindiana.org/hipster/20161207/) ?[20:56:17] *** ozquera <ozquera!~ozquera@p57BDAC62.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[20:57:09] <xenol> leoric: +1 on sysstatd[20:57:39] <xenol> COMPONENT_PRE_BUILD_ACTION should be reworked though, but as jim stated[20:58:08] <xenol> if it isn't using autoconf configure, any solution will be a hack ;)[21:07:33] <leoric> interesting, if I'm the only man who ever launched gobby && infinoted on OI?[21:16:39] <xenol> what's that?[21:17:04] <leoric> local google docs for poor :)[21:17:15] <leoric> 'A collaborative text editor'[21:17:53] <xenol> oh[21:17:59] <leoric> we provide it and several libraries exclusively for it[21:18:10] <xenol> vim multiplayer mode =)[21:18:44] <leoric> it's GUI :)[21:19:05] <xenol> I suppose you could find a few porjects which add web UI to vim =)[21:19:21] <leoric> multi-user vim?[21:19:26] <xenol> richlowe: python buildbot is migrated. you can enjoy the machine for yourself[21:19:31] <xenol> not sure if that exists[21:19:57] <xenol> leoric: I spoke to jcea, we might be able to upstream some python patches[21:20:11] <xenol> e.g. ncurses thing[21:20:35] <leoric> when I was writing a lot of papers, I was wishing for vim-like extension for OpenOffice[21:21:22] <leoric> is it consistent on OI and S11?[21:21:35] <xenol> no idea[21:21:50] <xenol> but I pointed him at userland-gate patches[21:22:09] <xenol> time for dinner[21:22:31] <leoric> we have additional patches as I see[21:22:50] <xenol> yes[21:23:15] <xenol> any ideas how to make people more interested in the oi-docs?[21:23:20] <xenol> anyone?[21:23:35] <leoric> put something useful there :->[21:24:30] <leoric> I mean , now it has archive of old sun documentation and handbook for beginners[21:25:09] <leoric> Our users usually are not Solaris beginners and likely can look at man pages or Oracle docs...[21:25:13] <xenol> well, according to the data, we have an increasing trend of visitors[21:25:43] <leoric> what about putting online man page browser there?[21:26:27] <xenol> you mean integrating it into oi-docs?[21:26:34] <xenol> or deploying it like illumos.org/man[21:27:05] <leoric> OMG... searched for illumos man web generator.. .First link 'Solaris sunglasses: sunglasses for men, women and children.'[21:27:26] <leoric> deploying it like illumos.org/man, but for more man pages[21:27:27] <xenol> the project is on leftwing's github[21:27:38] <xenol> how do you want to transfer manpages there?[21:28:09] <leoric> it would be good to generate some man pages snapshot on build server...[21:28:18] <xenol> right now illumos.org/man is a manual service[21:28:22] <xenol> well, mandoc -Thtml helps[21:29:16] <leoric> yes... I guess we can't do it so easily for all system man pages...[21:30:14] <xenol> define "system man pages"[21:30:33] <leoric> find /usr/share/man[21:30:43] <xenol> for illumos ones, it might be easily done imho (if there are problems, have a look at Leftwing's project)[21:30:56] <xenol> I am more afraid about non-illumos projects[21:31:07] <xenol> e.g. nginx :)[21:31:08] <leoric> for illumos we have such service, no need to duplicate the effort[21:31:27] <xenol> yes, but you want to merge those services[21:31:38] <xenol> and not have 2 sites[21:31:41] <leoric> it would be good to have one[21:32:08] <xenol> so even if we did something, we should first consult with LeftWing__ if he is open to changes[21:32:29] <xenol> and make the service somehow auto update man page database itself[21:32:37] <leoric> I'd add at least man pages for OI-specific software[21:32:45] <leoric> (components/openindiana)[21:50:33] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@tortuga.telka.sk> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:53:17] *** MarcelT <MarcelT!~marcel@tortuga.telka.sk> has joined #oi-dev[22:01:01] <oibot> Project oi-userland build #2719: SUCCESS in 2 hr 40 min: https://hipster.openindiana.org/jenkins/job/oi-userland/2719/[22:08:34] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.232.90.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:38:35] *** ptribble <ptribble!~ptribble@cpc108961-cmbg20-2-0-cust21.5-4.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:00:18] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.232.90.114> has joined #oi-dev[23:20:14] <leoric> xenol: if you had some time, you could think about Tim's suggestion (we likely want to have way to say 'this cve is fixed in package@version'[23:20:51] <leoric> Of course it would work if it is as automated as possible[23:26:24] *** LeftWing__ is now known as LeftWing[23:36:21] *** leoric <leoric!~leoric@188.232.90.114> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:48:39] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has joined #oi-dev[23:53:00] *** tozhu <tozhu!~Thunderbi@218.88.84.237> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)