May 27, 2011 
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But sometimes I consider using freenas instead of napp-it because I can get encryption on FreeBSD. Is there an encryption solution for Nexenta?[17:43:57] *** kart__ has quit IRC[17:47:32] <Darkman> nafaik but napp it can do encryption with solaris express 11 - if that helps/counts[17:48:06] <bewst> Darkman: unfortunately, no. I am using SX11 right now but only because I didn't understand the license terms. Need to dump it[17:48:51] <Darkman> k[17:50:49] *** koan_ is now known as koan[17:50:55] *** Torpeo is now known as Torpeo_[17:52:01] <bewst> Alternatively, does anyone want to offer me a reason to use napp-it instead of freenas?[17:55:19] <nikolam> bewst, it is much better to first install from opensolaris snv_134 CD (from genunix.org) and after that, you can upgrade to Both OpenIndiana oi_148 (openindiana.org) and at the same time on same zpool of disk(s) to S11Ex.[17:55:56] <nikolam> Installing directly from S11Ex media will lock you in Oracle proprietary ZFS version that noone but Oracle11Ex can not use[17:56:24] *** eXeC001er has joined ##nexenta[17:56:31] <bewst> nikolam: I understand, but I can't use S11Ex anyway because of licensingi[17:56:42] <nikolam> But if using version from 134 on OpenIndiana 148, then all other systems can use that ZFS, S11Ex, FreeBSD, Linux, zfs-fuse, OSX, etc[17:57:00] <bewst> currently rsync'ing pools to an old ZFS version so I can get off SX11[17:57:25] <nikolam> bewst, then you have opensolaris 2009.06, Opensolaris snv_134 and OpenIndiana 148 together with Nexenta Community edition, etc etc[17:57:40] <bewst> nikolam: I understand the options[17:57:43] <bewst> I think[17:57:59] <nikolam> I have S11Ex on separate BE, just in case, but I am mostly in OI[17:58:43] <bewst> I'm trying to ask whether there's a big advantage to using a solaris-based distro for the NAS component of an all-in-one rather than FreeBSD[17:59:09] <nikolam> well, Solaris based is native to ZFS.[17:59:24] <bewst> Understood[17:59:34] <nikolam> There is support from Nexenta if serious application is needed[17:59:49] <nikolam> And from oracle if one wants Closed Solaris.[18:00:23] <bewst> Don't want the latter, and the former… is unlikely but possible.[18:00:47] <nikolam> These days freebsd is largely installed on zfs. But it would depend of what are your needs[18:01:13] <bewst> for example?[18:01:14] *** mwm55 has quit IRC[18:01:33] *** asqui has joined ##nexenta[18:01:47] *** Tweener has quit IRC[18:02:39] <bewst> Aside from Nexenta or Oracle support, are there some needs better supported by a solaris ZFS (or vice-versa)?[18:03:32] <bewst> I want to assess what I'd be trading away in order to get the on-disk encryption provided by FreeBSD/geli[18:04:05] *** swy has quit IRC[18:05:10] *** Torpeo_ is now known as Torpeo[18:05:52] <nikolam> You can start with Nexenta Community and osol_134 upgraded to OI_148 and see how it is going[18:06:10] <Darkman> btw. can i combine multiple storages to one license? like having 3 boxes with 20tb and using a 64 tb license?[18:06:40] <bewst> nikolam: I have use OI, so I know how it goes. but none o those get me on-disk encryption, right?[18:08:19] <nikolam> bewst, you can use lofiadm and set up zfs volume that is encrypted[18:08:28] <Triskelios> bewst: you can use encrypted lofi devices, but there is no filesystem level encryption[18:08:58] * bewst has never heard of lofiadm; looks it up[18:09:02] <nikolam> that is what is on open from opensolaris onwards. Only Oracle putted its closed zfs encrypted implementation in s11ex zfs.[18:09:43] <bewst> nikolam: yes, and I have to get off s11ex, which is why I'm asking about this[18:11:39] <nikolam> bewst, best think one can do about s11ex is to delete its install, move data.[18:11:43] <bewst> Triskelios: I don't think I care whether the encryption is at the filesystem level, but maybe I'm misunderstanding. What are the implications of that fact?[18:12:03] <bewst> nikolam: which is exactly what I'm doing right now[18:14:24] <bewst> This looks promising: http://www.cuddletech.com/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=1029[18:18:11] <nikolam> This is mine: http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/2070489 But Solaris manuals are great, one should check them out. (I am self tough)[18:21:42] <Triskelios> bewst: the now-closed ZFS crypto allows per-dataset encryption and key changing[18:21:58] <nikolam> ups, wrong channel, sry[18:23:15] <bewst> nikolam: you must be addressing someone else with that?[18:23:38] <bewst> Triskelios: oh, changing the key without rewriting the whole dataset? OK, that's real, but maybe not so important to me[18:24:37] <bewst> Triskelios: but since I can make a ZFS volume in an encrypted file, what difference would it make whether I can get per-dataset encryption? Isn't the lofi setup almost equivalent?[18:27:29] *** matsimon_away is now known as matsimon[18:32:21] <Ganymede> I'm confused...zpool status shows that one of my striped zpools is "degraded" and one of the disks under that zpool is "degraded" with the message "too many errors" but iostat -e shows zero errors all across the board...[18:32:40] <Ganymede> I can't smartctl this drive because it's IDE/ATA (don't worry, it's not a production server).[18:32:50] <Triskelios> bewst: I think the only major advantage is that you get to use a single pool[18:33:42] <Triskelios> Ganymede: probably means it's silently returning corrupted data[18:33:51] <Triskelios> are there checksum failures?[18:34:24] <Ganymede> At the bottom of that pool in "zpool status" output, it shows: "errors: No known data errors"[18:35:12] *** nacx has quit IRC[18:35:28] <Triskelios> Ganymede: that just means no data was lost, you need to look at the columns for each vdev[18:38:52] <Ganymede> Not...fully...sure what that means. I should further specify that I am quite a newbie to ZFS and that I see a bunch of these in /var/adm/messages: "Error for command 'read sector' Error Level: Retryable"[18:40:15] *** swy has joined ##nexenta[18:42:12] <Ganymede> Ah, I'll just zpool clear it and see if it happens again.[18:46:13] *** meineerde has quit IRC[18:47:28] *** meineerde has joined ##nexenta[18:50:15] *** bewst has quit IRC[18:50:35] *** bewst has joined ##nexenta[18:50:57] *** kart_ has joined ##nexenta[18:53:34] <Ganymede> This is very worrying...I have TONS of data on non-ZFS filesystems...I wonder if they've been silently corrupting themselves over time.[19:01:47] <Triskelios> Ganymede: the "NAME STATE READ WRITE CKSUM" columns in zpool status show the statistics for individual devices, but you've cleared it[19:02:27] *** ichii386 has joined ##nexenta[19:03:01] *** tsukasa has quit IRC[19:03:44] *** tsukasa has joined ##nexenta[19:11:55] *** ichii386 has quit IRC[19:16:42] *** ichii386 has joined ##nexenta[19:37:19] *** swy has quit IRC[19:37:35] *** swy has joined ##nexenta[19:44:53] *** alhazred has quit IRC[19:48:53] *** nikolam has quit IRC[19:48:56] *** alhazred has joined ##nexenta[20:05:40] *** Torpeo is now known as Torpeo_[20:09:35] *** Torpeo_ is now known as Torpeo[20:23:12] *** eXeC001er has quit IRC[20:32:59] *** Torpeo is now known as Torpeo_[20:38:04] *** swy has quit IRC[20:38:42] *** swy has joined ##nexenta[20:55:10] *** Torpeo_ is now known as Torpeo[21:04:20] *** kart_ has quit IRC[21:07:05] *** Chris64 has joined ##nexenta[21:30:28] *** trbs has joined ##nexenta[21:34:05] *** bewst has quit IRC[21:37:45] *** Torpeo is now known as Torpeo_[21:38:50] *** swy has quit IRC[21:39:10] *** swy has joined ##nexenta[21:39:23] *** bewst has joined ##nexenta[21:47:59] *** bewst has left ##nexenta[21:49:47] *** dwingman has joined ##nexenta[21:50:34] <dwingman> anyone here?[21:51:11] <Chris64> but am newbee[21:51:25] <dwingman> ah[21:51:26] <Chris64> +"yes" in front of ;)[21:51:32] <dwingman> me too pretty much[21:51:39] <dwingman> i need help with a network issue[21:56:35] <nahamu> what kind of network issue?[22:21:42] *** swy has quit IRC[22:40:46] *** Torpeo_ is now known as Torpeo[22:48:19] *** swy has joined ##nexenta[23:01:22] *** Torpeo is now known as Torpeo_[23:13:08] *** Chris64 has quit IRC[23:16:37] *** madwizard has quit IRC[23:17:37] *** madwizard has joined ##nexenta[23:56:44] *** dwingman has quit IRC