May 3, 2011 
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Focusing on NCP4 with an Illumos core is of more value moving forward than putting resources into NCP3[15:36:34] <matsimon> Releasing the sources to the core that is in NZA the community could create the packages for core - without need for Nexenta to invest time and money :-)[15:38:14] <Tekni> I agree they should at least be added to the nexenta-gate if they're not already so the community could build the packages[15:38:23] *** DreamCatcher has joined ##nexenta[15:38:46] *** DreamCatcher has left ##nexenta[15:39:09] <matsimon> Indeed I should give a look at the gate - forgot that one[15:39:31] <Tekni> it appears there is a b3.0.5 changeset from 2 months ago[15:40:16] <matsimon> I realized that, so that could be a starting point too, thanks for point me at that :-)[15:40:35] <Tekni> have you considered taking the packages from 3.0.5 CE and trying them on NCP3?[15:42:06] <matsimon> You can pint apt to use nexentastor.org as depot, but when you reboot the kernel states NexentaStor, so it's likely to be mixed between NZA and core.[15:42:17] <matsimon> (point, not a pint of beer) ;)[15:43:00] *** eXeC001er has joined ##nexenta[15:44:17] *** myers has quit IRC[15:45:20] <matsimon> I don't know whether that is going to be stable. - But yes, it boot[15:45:22] <matsimon> s[15:45:53] <Tekni> I agree it's less than ideal, but it's a straightforward way to see if the updates fix various problems[15:46:08] <Tekni> and if you apt-clone you can always roll back[15:48:32] <Tekni> we have a lot of NCP3 machines and there are a lot of known bugs... at the moment we're in a holding pattern hoping to see an NCP4 beta materialize sooner rather than later[15:51:52] *** myers has joined ##nexenta[15:52:22] <matsimon> I think it might be going still a couple of months...[15:52:49] <matsimon> you can easily go back to the old boot environment if it doesn't work for you :-)[15:52:59] *** matsimon is now known as matsimon_away[15:55:51] <Andys^> NCP4 is eagerly awaited.. itching to test it out[16:04:24] <eXeC001er> Can someone give me repo-records from NCP3 ?[16:04:35] <eXeC001er> from /etc/apt/sources.list[16:08:01] *** victori has quit IRC[16:18:51] *** kwazar has quit IRC[16:22:21] *** matsimon_away is now known as matsimon[16:23:43] <matsimon> eXeC001er: back here - Should be pretty easy, just copy the deb apt.nexenta.org ... and replace nexenta with nexentastor and check that you have hardy-unstable[16:30:45] *** p3n_ has joined ##nexenta[16:31:51] <matsimon> eXeC001er: And be sure to use apt-clone not aptitude or apt-get since for kernel-upgrades it's the only way to do it in NCP3[16:32:16] *** myers has quit IRC[16:33:28] *** p3n has quit IRC[16:35:55] *** myers has joined ##nexenta[16:42:00] *** p3n_ is now known as p3n[16:50:49] <nahamu> can NexentaCP-3 mount ntfs?[17:00:10] *** Tweener has quit IRC[17:05:19] *** Tweener has joined ##nexenta[17:15:24] *** ikarius has quit IRC[17:16:24] <matsimon> nahamu: Don't think so - at least not natively in OpenSolaris/illumos[17:17:19] <Darkman_> sounds like a nasty wish[17:18:18] <matsimon> Search for Solaris NTFS and you may find third-party stuff but *at own risk* (Linux needed years to get read and even longer to get writeable but slow write support)[17:19:50] *** asqui has joined ##nexenta[17:29:01] *** bauruine has quit IRC[17:33:39] <andy_js> matsimon: apparently there should be an update about what is happening with NCP on nexenta.org later this week or next[17:34:06] *** bauruine has joined ##nexenta[17:35:28] <matsimon> Oh, good news - and sorry for asking regularly :-)[17:36:17] <matsimon> I think if it clarifies where and whether Nexenta would be open for community participation that would be helpful[17:42:45] *** ivan_nmv has joined ##nexenta[17:44:56] <matsimon> It's the same game as with Fedora - if you want to contribute to Fedora, you have to accept that the main sponsor RH sets a big part of the focus, that's allright. - Comparing to that NexentaCore has a very small user base, but still, maybe there is roo for more.[17:45:18] <matsimon> Thans andy_js :)[17:48:06] <Tekni> yes, thanks. More information is much more preferable to little or no information. :)[17:48:08] <andy_js> AFAIK Nexenta is open to community participation (and even welcomes it)[17:48:54] <andy_js> the current infrastructure isn't really optimised for it though.[17:49:26] <andy_js> That is something we will definitely be fixing.[17:54:39] <matsimon> Makes me think about Apache guy Stefano Mazzocchi posted about planting seeds / i.e. grow community http://www.betaversion.org/~stefano/papers/ac2006.2.pdf[17:55:22] <matsimon> andy_js: Oh, and following your news about FatELF looks promising too[17:55:53] <Tekni> I just read Anil's blog and this would explain why there has been a lack of NCP3 updates[17:56:06] <Tekni> I didn't realize he was leaving[17:56:10] *** ikarius has joined ##nexenta[18:00:26] *** Tweener has quit IRC[18:01:04] <nahamu> andy_js: does that mean the NS3.0.5 updates that pertain to NCP are going to find their way into NCP?[18:01:44] <Tekni> I don't think that is what he said[18:02:38] <matsimon> nahamu: More like an update on next plans - and the source (now that I know about) is available in the nexenta-gate[18:03:01] <matsimon> "just" need to build package for Nexenta Core, but technically not impossible.[18:03:55] *** Darkman_ has quit IRC[18:11:20] <andy_js> nahamu: All will be explained... and explained soon[18:18:32] <nahamu> andy_js: looking forward to it. :)[18:23:54] *** elpiako has quit IRC[18:24:15] *** anatoly_l has joined ##nexenta[18:25:36] *** POloser has quit IRC[18:31:41] *** ikarius has quit IRC[18:32:59] *** relling has joined ##nexenta[18:35:11] *** ivan_nmv has quit IRC[18:47:03] *** JagWaugh has joined ##nexenta[19:00:53] *** kart_ has joined ##nexenta[19:03:24] *** Torpeo is now known as zz_Torpeo[19:03:51] *** nacx has quit IRC[19:04:59] *** myers has quit IRC[19:06:18] *** myers has joined ##nexenta[19:06:30] *** nacx has joined ##nexenta[19:06:36] *** zz_Torpeo is now known as Torpeo[19:31:43] *** nprice has joined ##nexenta[19:36:41] *** gila has joined ##nexenta[20:15:45] *** jstrunk has joined ##nexenta[20:20:31] *** eXeC001er has quit IRC[20:29:27] *** jstrunk has quit IRC[20:31:06] *** matsimon is now known as matsimon_away[20:34:21] *** jstrunk has joined ##nexenta[20:51:56] *** relling has quit IRC[21:19:53] *** kwazar has joined ##nexenta[21:55:07] *** swy has quit IRC[21:55:50] *** kart_ has quit IRC[22:06:56] *** swy has joined ##nexenta[22:16:45] *** jstrunk has quit IRC[22:22:48] *** nprice is now known as Saul_Goodman[22:25:47] *** myers has quit IRC[22:26:21] *** alhazred has quit IRC[22:28:55] *** andyshinn` is now known as eger[23:28:35] *** echelog-1` has joined ##nexenta[23:28:36] *** echelog-1` is now known as echelog-1[23:36:34] *** bklang_ has joined ##nexenta[23:51:14] *** hlnoiku has joined ##nexenta[23:51:41] *** mwm55 has quit IRC[23:51:53] *** mwm55 has joined ##nexenta[23:56:40] *** bklang_ has quit IRC