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[07:33:58] <saik01> Evening. Is it still not possible to use raidz for a root filesystem?
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[07:38:48] <relling> still not possible on Solaris
[07:39:11] <relling> supposedly works on FreeBSD with grub 2.0
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[07:41:24] <saik01> But solaris supports single disk or nirrored raid zfs root?
[07:41:34] <saik01> mirrored*
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[09:50:51] <nightwish> hi! anybody here responsible for apt.nexenta.org? rsync service on that node is down since 2010-02-22, so we currently can't sync our mirrors :o(
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[11:54:50] <nexybot> New news from http://www.nexenta.org/projects/site/boards?format=atom: Help: RE: Question about mdadm-like alternatives <http://www.nexenta.org/boards/1/topics/182#message-183> || Help: Question about mdadm-like alternatives <http://www.nexenta.org/boards/1/topics/182>
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[12:24:55] <nexybot> New news from http://www.nexenta.org/projects/site/boards?format=atom: Help: Hot-swapping regular SATA HDDs? <http://www.nexenta.org/boards/1/topics/184>
[12:54:59] <nexybot> New news from http://www.nexenta.org/projects/site/boards?format=atom: Help: RE: Question about mdadm-like alternatives <http://www.nexenta.org/boards/1/topics/182#message-185>
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[13:55:07] <nexybot> New news from http://www.nexenta.org/projects/site/boards?format=atom: Help: RE: Hot-swapping regular SATA HDDs? <http://www.nexenta.org/boards/1/topics/184#message-186>
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[15:22:25] <mbelleau> Hey, does anyone know where there is no nightly build (EVAL/Community/Developer Edition) of Nexentastor available on http://ftp.nexentastor.org/nightly/ since one month?
[15:32:15] <mbelleau> The last EVAL nightly does not install fine; it complains about a tcl.so library not found
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[15:49:10] <ripe> Hello. Is it possible to install Alpha5 from USB stick? I know for now that you cant do it with Unetbootin.
[15:50:26] <mbelleau> ripe: never tried, but it seems that pxe booting works
[15:50:42] <ripe> yes, but that's not an option :/
[15:50:59] <ripe> problem with unetbootin is that it uses Linux's GRUB and not Solaris
[15:51:41] <ripe> I saw that there i program called opensolaris-liveusb-creator. I have no idea is it possible to modify it somehow to create Nexenta boot stick
[15:52:00] <ripe> have to say this is big minus for project. I havent used CD/DVD drives since 2006 :)
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[17:09:11] <mbelleau> Hey, does anyone know where there is no nightly build (EVAL/Community/Developer Edition) of Nexentastor available on http://ftp.nexentastor.org/nightly/ since one month?
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[17:51:16] <eXeC001er> mbelleau: which version ?
[17:51:49] <myers> I'm trying to backport git-core from ubuntu 9.10, which requires cvsps-2.1 as a build dep
[17:52:11] <myers> trying to build cvsps I get cvsps-2.1/cbtcommon/tcpsocket.c:247: undefined reference to `getsockname'
[17:52:21] <myers> and a bunch of other network socket related errors
[17:53:22] <eXeC001er> mbelleau: nightly-2.x.x at this time disabled.
[17:57:02] <eXeC001er> mbelleau: nigthtly-3.x.x EVAL disabled at this time. try to use COM version.
[18:00:09] <myers> trying to build git-core by using these directions http://www.nexenta.org/os/BuildingPackages and adding "deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hardy-backports main universe multiverse restricted" as a additonal source
[18:12:13] <myers> And that failed
[18:12:22] <myers> due to some default umask?
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[18:25:54] <nexybot`> New news from http://www.nexenta.org/projects/site/boards?format=atom: Help: RE: CIFS with read-only shares <http://www.nexenta.org/boards/1/topics/146#message-187>
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[18:32:59] <mbelleau> eXeC001er: version 3.0.0 community
[18:33:39] <mbelleau> but the com version is 45 days limited, right ?
[18:34:02] <eXeC001er> mbelleau: yeah
[18:34:24] <mbelleau> any way to revert to a developper version once the COM version is installed ?
[18:36:00] <eXeC001er> mbelleau: You can not do this
[18:41:47] <mbelleau> COM is for commercial, isn't?
[18:43:42] <mbelleau> I tried to apt-clone dist-upgrade the EVAL nightly but now nms/nmv are failing to start; do you have any idea how I could upgrade to latest version before the initial configuratino is done?
[18:47:39] <mbelleau> this is exactly the issue I had yesterday with the last EVAL nightly: http://www.nexentastor.org/issues/42
[18:47:44] <mbelleau> Wizard1 page fails Rolled back... Not all changes have been committed: ld.so.1: expect: fatal: libtcl8.4.so: open failed: No such file or directory
[18:48:26] <mbelleau> I imagine I could copy the file from another install and cross my fingers; but I would have loved to get a copy of a younger nightly build
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[18:55:59] <nexybot`> New news from http://www.nexenta.org/projects/site/boards?format=atom: Help: Using a slice for the root poot <http://www.nexenta.org/boards/1/topics/188>
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[19:21:18] <user_> hello
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[19:24:15] <wrapster> hi
[19:24:22] <mbelleau> hi
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[20:13:13] <myers> So you might have seen me ask questions about how to move an XFS fs on to a ZFS fs using Nexenta in the fastest way possible
[20:14:13] <mbelleau> myers: on the same system or you are using two separate servers ?
[20:14:47] <myers> I attached the drive via sata, create a linux vm, using virtualbox. added the raw drive to the vm. setup hostonly networking with the virtio network driver...
[20:14:55] <myers> rsync is now getting 13MB/s
[20:15:21] <myers> vs 5 MB/s when it was usb disk to real linux host over network to nexenta host
[20:15:28] <myers> mbelleau: I did both
[20:15:40] <mbelleau> myers: are hey linked via gigabit ethernet ?
[20:15:53] <myers> mbelleau: no 100base :(
[20:15:54] <mbelleau> myers: the physical ones, were they gig ?
[20:15:58] <mbelleau> myers: ok
[20:16:21] <mbelleau> myers: you were using ssh between the two or netcat or nfs ?
[20:16:21] <myers> mbelleau: spare a bum a gigabit hub? :)
[20:16:43] <myers> mbelleau: good point
[20:16:56] <mbelleau> myers: why not a straight network cable between the two servers ? no need for a hub! ;-)
[20:17:21] <myers> mbelleau: I'm currently doing rsync with ssh from the guest os to the host
[20:17:33] <myers> which now that I think about is suboptimal
[20:17:37] <mbelleau> myers: there's no point in encryption while you are host-only
[20:17:45] <myers> mbelleau: they were on other sides of the house
[20:18:42] <mbelleau> myers: If speed is a concern, use a weaker encryption option to ssh. rsync -e 'ssh -ax -c blowfish' -avz example.org:/tmp .
[20:18:53] <mbelleau> myers: or even null compression/encryption
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[20:21:29] <mbelleau> myers: you should be able to do better than 13MB/s using host-only networking
[20:21:40] <myers> mbelleau: I just nfs exported a zfs fs and then mounted that on the guest os, and I am getting 15-20MB/s
[20:22:17] <mbelleau> myers: did you enable any nfs optimisation on the nexenta side ?
[20:22:59] <myers> mbelleau: no, have any pointers?
[20:24:05] <mbelleau> myers: you could look at the ZIL and the no cache flush commands at first
[20:24:44] <myers> mbelleau: url? I don't know what ZIL is or no cache flush
[20:25:41] <mbelleau> http://www.solarisinternals.com/wiki/index.php/ZFS_Evil_Tuning_Guide
[20:26:14] <mbelleau> be aware that some optimisations should only be enabled if your system is battery-backed
[20:26:27] <mbelleau> hopefully the controller card, if not at least the server itself
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[20:30:19] <myers> mbelleau: thanks for the pointers... since I can afford to let this run all afternoon I think I'll just go some real work
[20:38:38] <myers> does anyone have git (packaged as git-core) working?
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[21:03:37] <terra> hi, i want to install nexenta to predefined partitions as custom zfs configuration
[21:03:57] <terra> but install script trying install whole disk
[21:06:08] <JagWaugh> hi terra, the installer only installs to whole disks.
[21:08:38] <terra> JagWaugh: any tricn on shell?
[21:08:45] <terra> *trick
[21:09:16] <terra> JagWaugh: install to whole disk very useless for me
[21:09:26] <terra> and weird..
[21:10:34] <nightwish> omg nexenta support guys... i tell them rsync service on apt.nexenta.org is down and they answer "please update us on the status of your services." - really funny :o(
[21:11:00] <JagWaugh> terra. what are you trying to do?
[21:11:10] <JagWaugh> Dual boot, or save space?
[21:14:48] <terra> JagWaugh: i leaved 2 partitions for nexenta on 2 different disks.. i just want to create a zfs file system on these partitions and install nexenta
[21:15:16] <JagWaugh> hmn...
[21:15:42] <JagWaugh> so you have zfs on something else as well?
[21:15:46] <terra> JagWaugh: I have FreeBSD and Linux on other partitions as raid configured
[21:15:59] <terra> JagWaugh: FreBSD has zfs
[21:16:08] <JagWaugh> ok.
[21:16:23] <terra> JagWaugh: but i want to install nexento on free partition
[21:16:41] <JagWaugh> how about installing to usb?
[21:16:48] <JagWaugh> then move the pool?
[21:17:12] <terra> JagWaugh: i have a usb disk but just want a real system
[21:17:39] <terra> i just want to 3 different os
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[21:18:14] <JagWaugh> then you move the pool to the machine you have already made space on.
[21:18:17] <terra> so, manually move installation to another?
[21:18:41] <JagWaugh> yes, you could send / receive it.
[21:18:54] <JagWaugh> then you only have menu.lst to mess with.
[21:19:05] <terra> that's not problem
[21:19:12] <JagWaugh> exactly.
[21:19:42] <terra> create pool, move installation with tar, ok?
[21:19:52] <relling> virtual machines killed the triple-booter :-)
[21:20:07] <JagWaugh> ggg
[21:20:22] <JagWaugh> as you think best, terra.
[21:20:30] <JagWaugh> have a look at http://www.stormos.org/node/2285
[21:20:40] <terra> is there any option for zfs to move fs to another?
[21:20:47] <terra> JagWaugh: thanks
[21:20:57] <JagWaugh> that is how I am getting storm and ubuntu to dual boot.
[21:21:09] <JagWaugh> quite a few terra.
[21:21:43] <JagWaugh> one is to boot to the usb, then add the slice you created on the disk to the pool,
[21:22:02] <JagWaugh> then after the resilver, take the usb device out,
[21:22:11] <JagWaugh> then add the 2nd slice
[21:24:16] <terra> JagWaugh: i don't want mirror zfs, i like to use raid0
[21:24:27] <JagWaugh> the flaw in my dd the usb from Ubuntu method above is that the slice stays the same size as it was on the usb
[21:25:03] <JagWaugh> still no problem terra, just do that as you transfer the pool over
[21:25:24] <terra> JagWaugh: ok
[21:26:29] <nexybot`> New news from http://www.nexenta.org/projects/site/boards?format=atom: Help: RE: Using a slice for the root poot <http://www.nexenta.org/boards/1/topics/188#message-190> || Help: RE: Question about mdadm-like alternatives <http://www.nexenta.org/boards/1/topics/182#message-189>
[21:29:00] <terra> another issue, is there any serious reason for full x64 environment?
[21:29:31] <terra> amd64 kernel is enought to all benefits of x64 env?
[21:29:35] <JagWaugh> Not sure I understand your question?
[21:29:42] <JagWaugh> aha.
[21:29:49] <terra> in short.. what nexenta is 32 bit?
[21:30:00] <terra> *why
[21:30:06] <JagWaugh> can't really answer that question.
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[21:49:20] <relling> there is no "completely 64-bit" Solaris environment (no need)
[21:49:51] <relling> Solaris has been mixed 32/64 with 64-bit kernel for about 15 years
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[22:26:42] <nexybot`> New news from http://www.nexenta.org/projects/site/boards?format=atom: Help: Using a slice for the root pool <http://www.nexenta.org/boards/1/topics/188>
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