April 28, 2009 
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apt-get should do all the dependency installations for you..[07:00:46] <debsid763> would like to get a gui up and some other programs[07:00:59] <debsid763> yea[07:01:13] <anilg> yes.. xorg, xfce and gnome-core are available.. so you should be able to get gui working[07:01:22] <debsid763> i will download only the stuff I need vs download 10 gigs[07:01:42] <anilg> there's a project called stormOS in the making to build a GUI based NCP distro[07:01:45] <debsid763> how about fluxbox or kde[07:01:45] <anilg> stormos.org[07:02:03] <debsid763> kool[07:02:17] <anilg> you can try the bot in here for packages[07:02:23] <anilg> ~package fluxbox[07:02:23] <nexybot> anilg: http://builder.tajinc.org/?f=package_status&view_method=name&package_name=fluxbox[07:02:33] <debsid763> kool[07:02:37] <anilg> doesnt exist[07:02:52] <debsid763> about the bot that is[07:03:04] <anilg> ~package aewm[07:03:05] <nexybot> anilg: http://builder.tajinc.org/?f=package_status&view_method=name&package_name=aewm[07:03:10] <anilg> that exists[07:04:22] <anilg> http://pastebin.com/m552079d9 are the ones I found[07:04:36] <anilg> I'm not sure all of them are tested.. so feedback is welcome[07:06:11] <debsid763> when is the expected release of storm os?[07:06:22] <debsid763> the site said soon but no date[07:08:05] <anilg> andy_js is the guy you want... he isnt in the room currently[07:08:20] <anilg> The last i knew a release was in the making and should be within a week or so[07:08:28] <debsid763> the project looks good so far[07:08:42] <debsid763> im looking forward to using nexenta[07:09:05] <debsid763> there was an earlier version that had gnome[07:09:19] <anilg> yes.. back then it was called gnusolaris[07:09:38] <debsid763> I searched for a download link but couldnt find any archives[07:09:52] <debsid763> you know a server?[07:09:59] <anilg> that release isnt really recommended[07:10:14] <debsid763> why?[07:10:15] <debsid763> buggy?[07:10:45] <anilg> http://www.nexenta.org/releases/[07:10:56] <anilg> the first iso is what you want[07:11:15] <anilg> it is a little buggy.. but the main reason is it's unsupported..[07:11:21] *** fserve has quit IRC[07:11:24] <anilg> so you're on your own there[07:11:33] <debsid763> no prob[07:11:40] <debsid763> just a test run[07:12:12] <anilg> hmm.. Ok. I'm not 100% positive that it has the gui bits, but the size looks about right[07:14:17] <debsid763> found this[07:14:19] <debsid763> http://www.nexenta.org/os/DistributionBuilder[07:15:53] <rootard> anilg: looks like the zfs module is missing in the miniroot?[07:16:32] <anilg> know the command I can run the safe-mode to regenerate boot-archive?[07:17:13] <anilg> debsid763: yes.. that's the tool we use to roll out NCP isos[07:17:17] <anilg> and other distros[07:17:35] <debsid763> other distros???[07:17:39] <debsid763> :o)[07:18:02] <debsid763> like stormos and.......[07:18:17] <anilg> the various commercial variants of nexenta[07:25:26] <debsid763> thanks for your help anilg[07:25:38] <anilg> yw[07:53:30] <rootard> anilg: -kdv ?[07:53:37] <rootard> oh, read too quickly...[07:53:43] <rootard> bootadm update-archive[07:59:17] *** debsid763 has quit IRC[08:12:15] *** olsner has joined ##nexenta[08:31:53] *** master_o1_master has joined ##nexenta[08:36:29] *** dtbartle has quit IRC[08:38:10] *** ekix has quit IRC[08:42:09] *** master_of_master has quit IRC[08:46:35] <anilg> rootard: I imported the pool in safe mode and zfs list shows it[08:46:59] <anilg> bootadm update-archive complains "missing /boot/grub on root: /"[08:56:28] *** randybias is now known as randybias|away[09:16:13] <rootard> yeah, the kernel looks in the miniroot for the zfs module, not the pool.[09:16:38] <rootard> so if the bootarchive is not generated correctly (as the above error states) it will not boot.[09:17:23] <rootard> I guess finding out why /boot/grub isn't there will help lead to the solution.[09:21:47] <anilg> I havent mounted the zfs filesystem yet[09:22:50] *** olsner has quit IRC[09:23:43] <anilg> the mountpoint of syspool/rootfs-nmu-000 is shown as legacy[09:31:02] *** pino42 has joined ##nexenta[09:50:52] *** baitisj has joined ##nexenta[10:01:40] *** andy_js has joined ##nexenta[10:50:11] *** tsukasa__ has joined ##nexenta[10:51:17] *** tsukasa` has quit IRC[12:08:12] *** jongwook has joined ##nexenta[12:08:15] <jongwook> hi[12:08:35] <jongwook> i'm just downloading 2.0-b104-rc1_x86[12:09:06] <jongwook> :D[12:09:18] <jongwook> is it ok to use(?)[12:09:23] <jongwook> for server and desktop[12:25:19] *** pino42 has quit IRC[12:27:47] <andy_js> anyone want to see a screenshot of StormOS beta?[12:27:50] <andy_js> http://stormos.org/node/47[12:29:02] <anilg> andy_js: is that to be the logo?[12:29:13] <anilg> looks pretty cool :)[12:37:21] <jongwook> StormOS == UNIX ?[12:37:52] <jongwook> based on nexenta..[12:39:01] <jongwook> nobody talks about nexenta much.. i guess there must be no problem at all[12:39:36] <jongwook> finished up downlad nexenta-core-2.0-b104-rc1[12:40:04] <anilg> jongwook: StormOS = NCP2 + XFCE[12:40:04] <jongwook> wanted here something even a little bit about nexenta before try this[12:40:10] <jongwook> i see[12:40:24] <jongwook> do you use nexenta anilg ?[12:40:28] <anilg> jongwook: whats the purpose of your nexenta install?[12:40:38] <jongwook> for desktop and server[12:40:44] <anilg> yes, I'm one of the developers[12:40:47] <jongwook> and developing some web based applications[12:40:53] <jongwook> cool[12:40:59] <jongwook> nice to meeting you anilg[12:41:35] <jongwook> do you have a lots of work to do with nexenta anilg ?[12:42:01] <anilg> define lots of work :) .. we're nearing the NCP2 final release, yes[12:42:13] <jongwook> i see[12:42:37] <jongwook> i just want to try nexenta unstable version[12:42:47] <jongwook> is it ok as ubuntu ?[12:42:53] <jongwook> i was an ubuntu user :)[12:43:34] <anilg> jongwook: for the server, it's got all of Ubuntu + opensoalris advantages[12:43:48] <jongwook> can i mount ext3 partition ?[12:43:50] <anilg> it's still not upto Ubuntu's user-friendliness on the desktop[12:44:01] <jongwook> i see[12:44:11] <anilg> no.. zfs, ufs and fat32 are the partition types it understands[12:44:22] <jongwook> i see[12:44:33] <jongwook> how about applications ?[12:44:39] <jongwook> like ubuntu-media and..[12:44:47] <jongwook> mplayer and codecs for totem[12:44:57] <jongwook> etc..[12:45:05] <anilg> server applications.. yes. Desktop applications.. you can check via the bot here.[12:45:12] <anilg> ~package ubuntu-media[12:45:12] <nexybot> anilg: http://builder.tajinc.org/?f=package_status&view_method=name&package_name=ubuntu-media[12:45:21] <jongwook> cool :)[12:45:48] <anilg> The desktop side is work-in-progress[12:45:49] <jongwook> had a little troble to install media players on open.solaris[12:46:25] <anilg> I dont think they're available for NCP2 yet, but StormOS is looking to package VLC[12:46:26] <jongwook> mm.. i see.. so how long does it takes to be done ?[12:46:40] <jongwook> i see..[12:46:44] <jongwook> NCP2 stands for ?[12:46:58] <jongwook> nexenta core platform 2 ?[12:47:02] <anilg> yup[12:47:05] <jongwook> cool[12:47:35] <jongwook> so is StormOS == unix as nexenta and open solaris ?[12:47:47] <anilg> yes[12:47:49] <jongwook> it only says its based on nexenta[12:47:50] <jongwook> i see[12:47:53] <jongwook> cool[12:48:09] <anilg> well it's unix because it's opensoalris underneath..[12:48:20] <anilg> but the commands you'll use by default will be GNU[12:48:24] <jongwook> but it can't mount ext3 also right ?[12:48:28] <anilg> the ubuntu commands[12:48:36] <anilg> no you wont be able ot mount it..[12:48:38] <jongwook> and os cmd also ?[12:48:42] <jongwook> why ?[12:48:50] <jongwook> i have secondary harddrive[12:48:53] <jongwook> ext3[12:48:56] <anilg> because it lacks ext3 drivers[12:49:03] <jongwook> @_@[12:49:17] <anilg> you'll need to export them via NFS from another box[12:49:24] <anilg> and copy the data here[12:49:25] <jongwook> nexenta and stormos uses pfexec ? as open solaris ?[12:49:33] <anilg> no.. good ol sudo[12:49:39] <jongwook> i see[12:49:55] <jongwook> i have only one pc :)[12:50:09] <jongwook> i meant i dont use NFS so[12:50:24] <anilg> It'll be a one time thing so you;ll have to figure out how to migrate the data[12:50:38] <anilg> brb[12:50:40] *** anilg has quit IRC[12:50:40] <jongwook> cool, so it's not that much different between open.solaris..[12:50:59] <jongwook> oops[12:51:22] <jongwook> lack of ext3...[12:51:23] *** anilg has joined ##nexenta[12:51:29] <jongwook> :)[12:52:25] <jongwook> unix, performace, desktop environments, media players ~[12:52:42] <jongwook> those r all i want to have[12:53:16] <jongwook> makes me too much headache because of..[12:53:20] <jongwook> ext3 and media player[12:53:34] <anilg> yes, yes, kinda, not right now[12:53:44] <jongwook> ubuntu works really fine but it's not unix[12:53:45] <anilg> NCP is targeted to be the core for a server[12:54:15] <jongwook> server is boring, just service some things ~ can't play with it[12:54:30] <jongwook> :)[12:54:36] <anilg> right.. every distro is targeted to something.[12:54:43] <jongwook> :)[12:54:50] <anilg> you should maybe look at something like belenix that has a lot of desktop things done to it[12:55:02] <jongwook> is it unix ?[12:55:10] <anilg> yes.. opensoalris undernearth[12:55:14] <anilg> so unix[12:55:15] <jongwook> cool[12:55:32] <jongwook> :)[12:55:37] <jongwook> thanks ~~[12:55:43] <jongwook> it helped me a lot ~ thank you ~~~[12:56:00] <jongwook> i gotta have to try, see you next time thank you :)[12:56:03] <jongwook> bye~[12:56:11] <anilg> bye[12:56:15] *** jongwook has left ##nexenta[13:03:43] <andy_js> sorry guys i've been afk[13:07:10] <andy_js> jongwook: there are ext3 drivers for solaris, but I've not tried them[13:07:22] <andy_js> ah, hes left :p[13:08:46] <anilg> andy_js: do you mean the fuse ones?[13:08:58] <andy_js> I don't think so[13:09:06] <andy_js> I think they're native[13:09:24] <andy_js> Cant remember where I saw them :\[13:09:43] <anilg> I havent heard of native etx3 for OS[13:09:47] <anilg> ext3*[13:17:00] *** koan has quit IRC[13:17:00] *** ChanServ has quit IRC[13:17:01] *** devians__ has quit IRC[13:17:01] *** weechat_user has quit IRC[13:17:01] *** andy_js has quit IRC[13:17:01] *** ichii386 has quit IRC[13:19:07] *** ChanServ has joined ##nexenta[13:19:07] *** andy_js has joined ##nexenta[13:19:07] *** koan has joined ##nexenta[13:19:07] *** ichii386 has joined ##nexenta[13:19:07] *** devians__ has joined ##nexenta[13:19:07] *** weechat_user has joined ##nexenta[13:19:07] *** irc.freenode.net sets mode: +o ChanServ[13:28:44] <andy_js> anilg: here is one: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/driver-discuss/2006-August/003455.html[13:29:05] <andy_js> I dont think that was the one I saw though[13:29:24] <anilg> those are the ones Belenix bundles.. they are not native as such[13:30:04] <anilg> they are mounted over nfs, if i understand correctly, and there's a nfs wrapper over ext3[13:30:15] *** taltamir has quit IRC[13:30:21] <anilg> theres also a similar ntfs module[14:50:43] <andy_js> anilg: getting hash-sum mismatch for python2.5-dev[14:51:02] <andy_js> also had this on beta2, and its a StormOS blocker[15:03:08] <anilg> andy_js: http://pastebin.com/m132875b9[15:03:51] <anilg> root@lanai:/var/cache/apt/archives# md5sum /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.5-dev_2.5.2-2nexenta7-build1_solaris-i386.deb[15:03:52] <anilg> 8db69a6a535debe479933d22cbeeea24 /var/cache/apt/archives/python2.5-dev_2.5.2-2nexenta7-build1_solaris-i386.deb[15:03:58] <anilg> can you repeat the command on your machine[15:04:52] <anilg> if the md5 is the same.. the issue is with your repository metadata[15:05:05] <anilg> and we'll have something to go ahead with the debugging[15:09:54] <anilg> andy_js: if you're getting this error when building the iso, then I recall a similar issue I'd faced with the repository sometime back.. I can hunt through my mail to see what the fix was[15:13:57] <andy_js> md5sum is not the same[15:15:00] <andy_js> apt-get fails[15:15:04] <andy_js> aptitude doesn't[15:21:49] *** pino42 has joined ##nexenta[15:25:53] <anilg> that's wierd.. is your copy of the repository rsynced?[15:26:07] <anilg> or are you using nexenta.org repository itself[15:26:16] <anilg> ~package python2.5-dev[15:26:17] <nexybot> anilg: http://builder.tajinc.org/?f=package_status&view_method=name&package_name=python2.5-dev[15:27:22] <anilg> wget http://apt.nexenta.org/dists/hardy-unstable/main/binary-solaris-i386/python/python2.5-dev_2.5.2-2nexenta7-build1_solaris-i386.deb[15:27:23] <anilg> md5sum python2.5-dev_2.5.2-2nexenta7-build1_solaris-i386.deb[15:27:48] <anilg> can you provide me with shell access to this machine?[15:32:10] *** pino42 has quit IRC[15:34:20] *** pino42 has joined ##nexenta[15:39:52] <andy_js> I was not using a copy of the repo, I was using the standard NCP2 repo[15:42:07] <anilg> Then the download via http is somehow corrupting the file[15:42:30] <anilg> did the above wget download and test give the right md5?[15:43:00] <anilg> if yes, you can try to run it in a while loop and print out the md5 values each time to see if the file is downloaded wrong some of the times[15:53:28] <andy_js> anyone see this: http://stormos.org/node/10?[15:54:03] <andy_js> I remember when I first started the repo, I could not upload any packages via ftp without them becoming corrupted[15:54:34] <andy_js> so I had to mount the repo on a linux box and use that to upload them[16:00:33] <anilg> andy_js: gnusol-devel is a good place to pose the question..[16:00:49] <anilg> the one that you put on the blog[16:27:58] *** alfism has joined ##nexenta[16:48:23] *** bobahPhD has quit IRC[17:33:50] *** lesterc has quit IRC[17:35:13] *** asdf has joined ##nexenta[17:35:37] <asdf> i assume nexenta can be installed as a vmware host?[17:37:15] <rootard> asdf: afaik, yes[17:41:13] *** chrismat has joined ##nexenta[17:44:10] *** tsukasa__ has quit IRC[17:44:45] <asdf> shweet, thanks[17:46:50] *** tsukasa has joined ##nexenta[17:49:04] *** tarzeau has quit IRC[18:03:48] *** alfism has quit IRC[18:05:23] *** uski has quit IRC[18:05:45] <xinkeT> anyone know why booting ncp or nexentastor from usb key is so bloody slow?[18:06:33] *** randybias|away is now known as randybias[18:07:10] <xinkeT> it appears to be a grub thing, since it sits for about 5 minutes at the grub splash screen, and then goes pretty quickly after that[18:13:03] <anilg> xinkeT: yes.. the wait is when the miniroot is loaded into the ram[18:13:28] <xinkeT> ok, that makes sense[18:15:10] *** randybias has quit IRC[18:25:02] *** dtbartle has joined ##nexenta[18:53:58] *** alfism has joined ##nexenta[19:28:46] *** anilg has quit IRC[20:17:25] *** andy_js has quit IRC[20:18:12] *** andy_js has joined ##nexenta[20:44:39] *** taltamir has joined ##nexenta[20:55:54] *** taltamir has quit IRC[20:57:57] *** taltamir has joined ##nexenta[21:09:11] *** andy_js has quit IRC[21:26:26] *** andy_js has joined ##nexenta[21:28:43] *** baitisj has quit IRC[21:37:57] *** bobit has joined ##nexenta[21:39:23] <bobit> how can I clear old iscsi targets?[21:42:00] *** bobit has quit IRC[21:51:02] *** taltamir has quit IRC[21:51:15] *** taltamir has joined ##nexenta[22:03:10] *** pino42 has quit IRC[22:11:00] *** zooko has joined ##nexenta[22:24:40] *** Capscrew has joined ##nexenta[22:26:41] *** Capscrew has left ##nexenta[22:39:21] *** taltamir has quit IRC[22:43:05] *** andy_js has quit IRC[22:51:16] *** olsner has joined ##nexenta[23:07:11] *** bmwracer0 has joined ##nexenta[23:07:58] <bmwracer0> hey[23:14:56] <bmwracer0> question for anyone who is around[23:24:27] <zooko> Yay, Brian is heading over to colo to resuscitate my server.[23:49:43] *** koan has quit IRC[23:49:50] *** koan has joined ##nexenta[23:55:29] *** bmwracer0 has quit IRC[23:56:43] <asdf> so i followed the getting started doc and now im' sitting at a command prompt, do i need to install a module to get to the web interface?[23:56:47] <asdf> i don't see a web server running[23:58:38] <zooko> WHOA.[23:58:44] <zooko> "Inconsistent filesystem structure" is what the console says.[23:59:21] <zooko> How do I tell Nexenta with ZFS-RAID-1 boot partition to fsync?[23:59:29] <zooko> Brian says "Press any key to continue"...