April 16, 2009 
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[00:00:03] <rootard> I guess it depends on how it is mounted.[00:00:06] *** chrol has quit IRC[00:00:23] <JetForMe> the point is, the EBS raw volume is available to an existing instance that reboots[00:02:26] *** nprice has joined ##nexenta[00:02:31] <JetForMe> so, the trick is to make it available to a NEW instance as it boots[00:03:09] <JetForMe> Can I pass arbitrary configuration values to an instance at launch time?[00:03:09] <JetForMe> Yes, although the size of the data is limited to 16K. For more information, see Instance Metadata.[00:03:09] * rootard nods[00:03:34] <rootard> I don't know about arbitrary value[00:04:07] <JetForMe> we can pass to the instance the vol-ID for the EBS volume it should attach to itself. the early boot scripts can attach it with ec-2 commands, then it will be available for the rest of the boot process[00:04:31] <rootard> and I imagine that should fit well within 16k[00:04:40] <JetForMe> one would hope![00:04:59] <rootard> then looks like you have your non-hackish solution[00:05:15] <JetForMe> I'm still going to ask for:[00:05:16] *** nprice has quit IRC[00:05:55] <JetForMe> $ ec2-run-instances -i ami_id --ebs=vol-ID=2...[00:07:53] <JetForMe> Data to make available to the instances. This data is read from the command line of the USER_DATA argument. If you want the data to be read from a file, see the -f option.[00:07:53] <JetForMe> Example: -d "my user data"[00:10:58] *** rootard is now known as rootard_away[00:11:12] <rootard_away> I'll be back later on[00:11:17] <JetForMe> no worries[00:18:33] *** RoyK has left ##nexenta[00:19:41] *** proteusguy has joined ##nexenta[00:32:57] <[JT]> Weird.[00:33:10] <[JT]> Does DHCP work properly on Nexenta (as a client)?[00:33:14] <[JT]> Take a look at this:[00:33:33] <[JT]> (pastebin coming in a second)[00:35:24] <[JT]> http://www.pastebin.ca/1393288[00:35:51] <[JT]> I see the Nexenta box asking for an address and the Windows 2008 Server responding with an address.[00:36:18] <[JT]> Nexenta fails to accept the response and ultimately just says that it can't configure the interface.[00:36:48] <[JT]> It hangs at that step for maybe 30-45 seconds before reporting that it failed. In the meantime, it exchanges about 5 or 6 requests with the DHCP server.[00:39:49] <[JT]> And it looks like it just keeps trying about every 64 seconds.[00:39:57] <[JT]> Hmm.[01:38:20] *** olsner has quit IRC[01:39:29] *** lesterc has joined ##nexenta[01:59:44] *** alfism has quit IRC[02:07:18] *** NCommander has quit IRC[02:09:11] *** proteusguy has quit IRC[02:29:39] *** proteusguy has joined ##nexenta[02:32:14] *** rootard_away is now known as rootard[02:48:37] <Bartman007> rootard: you seen a newly created zone refuse zlogin?[02:49:18] <rootard> Bartman007: yeah, change the password field in the zone's /etc/shadow to NP[02:49:54] <Bartman007> and it also doesn't autocreate a zfs volume for the pool[02:50:38] <rootard> yeah, I've complained about this and it seems nobody has listened[02:51:05] <Bartman007> same deal w/ ncp1 for me :/[02:51:13] <rootard> if you create another pool and then make a dataset for your zones root, it will work[02:52:12] <rootard> I dug down into the OpenSolaris code to find where the zfs dataset creation broke and sent email about it.[02:52:24] <rootard> it has to do with / being a legacy mount[02:52:52] <Bartman007> but I set the syspool/zones dataset to be non-legacy[02:53:19] <rootard> I know[02:53:25] <rootard> still...[02:54:25] <rootard> if you don't believe me: zfs create -V 1G syspool/vol;zpool create tank /dev/...vol;zfs create -o mountpoint=/zones tank/zones[02:54:51] <rootard> then run the zone install and it will create a dataset[02:56:44] *** gv_ has joined ##nexenta[03:02:16] <Bartman007> rootard: heh. http://pastebin.com/m2e4aae1b[03:03:37] <Bartman007> oops, my fault.[03:04:06] <Bartman007> yeah, creates the zfs dataset, that's an interesting quirk[03:05:53] *** fserve has joined ##nexenta[03:28:58] *** gbs has joined ##nexenta[03:55:41] *** fserve has quit IRC[04:09:55] *** tsukasa` has joined ##nexenta[04:17:07] *** rootard is now known as rootard_away[04:24:46] *** tsukasa has quit IRC[04:25:01] *** gbs has quit 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requirement of Nexenta is stupid[09:31:15] <GhostInTheShell> why does it requires automatic partitioning and the whole hard drive to install?[09:32:16] <GhostInTheShell> i wanted to install it on my laptop, but this seems impossible now[09:32:42] <GhostInTheShell> i already have two working OSes on that machine and i don't want to destroy them only to install Nexenta[09:33:13] *** chrol has joined ##nexenta[09:36:19] *** lesterc has quit IRC[09:39:25] *** proteusguy has quit IRC[09:57:13] *** proteusguy has joined ##nexenta[10:01:32] *** chrol has quit IRC[10:02:20] *** proteusguy has quit IRC[10:02:58] *** proteusguy has joined ##nexenta[10:09:50] *** chrol has joined ##nexenta[10:10:00] *** olsner has quit IRC[10:18:52] *** NCommander has joined ##nexenta[10:21:58] *** synan has joined ##nexenta[10:29:26] <anilg> GhostInTheShell: it is one of the more requested RFEs.. we'll add this support after NCP2.[10:42:39] <GhostInTheShell> well, it looks i will have to wait to test this OS[10:44:40] <scf-> install to usb drive[10:52:58] *** RoyK has joined ##nexenta[10:54:17] *** chrol has quit IRC[10:55:23] *** taltamir has quit IRC[11:05:20] *** chrol has joined ##nexenta[11:56:49] *** chrol has quit IRC[12:15:40] *** chrol has joined ##nexenta[12:27:23] *** lesterc has joined ##nexenta[12:45:24] *** tarzeau has joined ##nexenta[12:58:01] *** lesterc_ has joined ##nexenta[13:05:22] *** lesterc has quit IRC[13:24:44] *** chrol has quit IRC[13:43:46] *** proteusguy has quit IRC[13:45:49] *** rootard_away is now known as rootard[13:53:08] *** mib_o08syw has joined ##nexenta[13:57:11] *** mib_o08syw has quit IRC[14:06:29] *** proteusguy has joined ##nexenta[14:08:23] *** GHReyes has joined ##nexenta[14:08:36] *** rootard is now known as rootard_away[14:10:20] *** b_Nick has joined ##nexenta[14:26:09] *** fserve has quit IRC[15:05:50] *** andy_js has quit IRC[15:09:16] *** andy_js has joined ##nexenta[15:46:38] *** lysander has joined ##nexenta[15:54:39] *** lesterc has joined ##nexenta[15:54:49] *** synan has quit IRC[16:00:13] *** PinkFreud has joined ##nexenta[16:01:04] <PinkFreud> heya folks. I'm having a slightly bizarre issue with the livecd, version b104-beta2[16:01:40] <PinkFreud> perhaps it's just me, but I appear to be unsable to find any mention of what the login information for the livecd is. I've searched the nexenta site to no avail.[16:02:02] <PinkFreud> there's a few mentions of root/livecd via google, but this does not appear to be the case in b104-beta2[16:02:21] *** lesterc_ has quit IRC[16:02:28] <PinkFreud> am I missing something? or did someone forget to mention the login info for this livecd? :)[16:04:27] *** andy_js has quit IRC[16:08:53] *** andy_js has joined ##nexenta[16:10:09] <rootard_away> PinkFreud: where did you download the livecd from?[16:10:20] *** rootard_away is now known as rootard[16:11:25] <PinkFreud> uhm. iirc, from the nexenta site.[16:11:32] <PinkFreud> it was back in feb, though[16:12:03] <PinkFreud> nexenta-core-platform_2.0-b104-beta2_x86.iso[16:12:25] <PinkFreud> didn't get around to doing something with it until now. :)[16:12:31] <rootard> you should get a screen session automatically from that[16:12:44] <rootard> then you can hit F2 to get to a shell[16:12:48] <rootard> no login required[16:14:03] <PinkFreud> actually, it gives me a gui login screen[16:15:31] <rootard> Hmmm, doesn't sounds like the image I know about ;)[16:15:45] <PinkFreud> weird.[16:16:25] <rootard> you sure you aren't thinking of some other image and saying nexenta-core-platform_2.0 ?[16:16:57] <andy_js> Anyone here get the OpenSolaris starter kit way back when?[16:17:13] <andy_js> I'm pretty sure that came with a nexenta disc that included the full ubuntu desktop[16:17:30] <PinkFreud> weird.[16:18:03] <PinkFreud> might be an issue with this vm. I'm starting to think it's booting the failed opensol image from disk, despite my telling it to boot the nexenta cd.[16:18:09] * PinkFreud scratches his head[16:18:17] <rootard> andy_js: maybe an old gnusolaris iso... I don't know of any nexenta iso's that come packaged with a GUI[16:18:37] <PinkFreud> I'll play with it later. Thanks for confirming that something's wonky on my end. :)[16:19:09] <rootard> no problem... good luck :)[16:19:57] <andy_js> hmm, I definitly have a nexenta cd with full ubuntu desktop right in front of me[16:20:33] <andy_js> in a case labeled "OpenSolaris Starter Kit", which I got sent by SUN[16:20:56] <andy_js> maybe I should put up an ISO or something[16:21:35] <andy_js> Its old though, way older that project indianna even[16:24:46] <rootard> andy_js: sounds like gnusolaris :)[16:25:02] <andy_js> says nexenta on it[16:25:16] *** lesterc_ has joined ##nexenta[16:25:20] <andy_js> even on the wallpaper[16:25:38] <rootard> hmm, are we talking b65 ?[16:25:48] * andy_js checks[16:26:33] <andy_js> one of the cds (not the nexenta one) says b57 on the front[16:26:38] <andy_js> so its possible[16:27:04] <andy_js> the nexenta one is too[16:27:27] <rootard> ok, so it was during the strage time that gnusolaris became nexenta[16:28:26] *** chrol has joined ##nexenta[16:28:31] <andy_js> I was dissapointed when you guys decided to make Nexenta a "Core Platform"[16:28:58] <andy_js> the preview CD I have looks awesome[16:29:10] <rootard> well, it's a matter of developer interest[16:29:42] <rootard> It's also a good part of the reason I wrote the autobuilder[16:30:01] <rootard> to help dev's come to the project and make large strides with porting packages.[16:30:30] <rootard> the decision was based on the fact that things were getting quite hairy[16:34:02] *** lesterc has quit IRC[16:35:30] <andy_js> ah well, that why I started StormOS I guess[16:35:49] <rootard> awesome :)[16:36:03] <rootard> let me know if I can do little things to help with that effort[16:36:40] <andy_js> There were a few apt problems holding me back that seem to have been fixed with RC1[16:36:54] <andy_js> which is a big help[16:37:42] <andy_js> what about the libnspr dependency hell? has that been fixed yet?[16:38:27] <andy_js> that annoyed me enough to port webkit[16:38:33] <rootard> not sure what you are referring to? The upgrade from ncp1->ncp2 works for the most part[16:39:07] <rootard> there is a bug in apt-clone that has a known fix. I don't know if anil/erast incorporated it yet[16:41:40] <andy_js> I'll see if I can find an example (thats is the problem is still there)[16:41:45] <rootard> I upgraded one of my production systems to NCP2 a few days ago. Besides the apt-clone bug it went smoothly[16:42:45] <andy_js> I am referring to a cyclic dependency which I came across when trying to merge some upstream packages[16:42:59] <andy_js> I suspect the autobuilder choked on it too[16:43:59] <andy_js> Im pretty sure it was to do with libnspr-<something>[16:44:10] <rootard> oh, so you are talking of a build-dependency hell[16:44:43] *** chrol has quit IRC[16:47:56] <rootard> I compiled libnspr4-0d for NCP2 and it replaces libnspr4[16:48:06] <rootard> it is also compiled as both 32 and 64-bit[16:48:14] <rootard> so... the problem should be fixed?[16:55:48] *** RoyK has quit IRC[17:00:50] *** Ycros has joined ##nexenta[17:04:19] <Ycros> hi, I've just installed NCP2 RC1, and its throwing me into maintenance mode as soon as I boot, saying console services cannot be started. svcs -x is telling me a bunch of services are offline due to "Dependency svc:/system/filesystem/root is absent."[17:04:24] <Ycros> what's gone wrong here?[17:06:36] <rootard> Ycros: it looks like a service manifest was not imported correctly. I haven't seen that yet[17:07:08] <Ycros> its a fresh install[17:07:11] <rootard> does "apt-get -f install" complain about any packages?[17:07:38] <Ycros> it complained about a perl datetime package, I let it install that but it changed nothing[17:07:56] <Ycros> I also did an update & upgrade, which also changed nothing[17:08:44] <Ycros> is it possible to regen or reinstall the service manifest then? I'm not sure how to go about it.[17:09:13] <rootard> try this maybe: svccfg import /var/lib/dpkg/alien/sunwcsr/reloc/var/svc/manifest/system/filesystem/root-fs.xml[17:09:31] <rootard> (sorry for the long string)[17:09:54] <rootard> you could also try: apt-get --reinstall install sunwcsr[17:10:08] <rootard> but I don't know if that would do it as faithfully[17:11:03] <Ycros> importing it seems to be workinc[17:11:54] <Ycros> that fixed it, cheers[17:12:19] <rootard> awesome. Thanks for letting us know...[17:12:47] <Ycros> no idea how that happened[17:13:15] *** chrol has joined ##nexenta[17:13:51] <rootard> if you can look in /var/log/bootstrap.log for errors it would be appreciated.[17:15:14] <Ycros> there are various errors, and warnings about pre-dependency, I'm not sure whats normal and whats not[17:15:34] <Ycros> /usr/share/debootstrap/functions: line 5: echo: write error: Broken pipe <--- seems to recur[17:16:20] <Ycros> Errors were encountered while processing: var/cache/apt/archives/sunwsfe_5.11.104-1_solaris-i386.deb[17:16:28] <Ycros> there was a conflict there[17:16:52] <Ycros> dpkg: error processing var/cache/apt/archives/nexenta-lu_5.11.104-2_solaris-i386.deb[17:16:58] <rootard> hmm, can you place the file somewhere? There have been a few issues reported with the installer but no underlaying problem has been identified... if this is related it may make some virtual box users happier[17:17:03] <Ycros> okay[17:17:20] *** Supert has joined ##nexenta[17:19:59] <Ycros> rootard: http://gnaw.yi.org/~ycros/bootstrap.log[17:25:18] <rootard> Ycros: thanks, I'm passing the URL on to a few devs[17:26:36] <eXeC001er> [JT]: I need your help.[17:28:46] *** rootard is now known as rootard_away[17:31:21] *** proteusguy has quit IRC[17:32:09] <GHReyes> andy_js: can i add StormOS repository in NCP2 RC 1 ???'[17:33:24] <GHReyes> andy_js: i love (like you) the power of the Solaris kernel with the ease of use of Ubuntu/Debian[17:33:51] <andy_js> GHReyes: yes you can[17:34:02] <GHReyes> apt-get & apt-clone rules! IPS sucks[17:34:12] <GHReyes> andy_js: great![17:34:22] * andy_js agrees IPS does suck[17:39:35] <GHReyes> andy_js: Can I join the project and help ?[17:39:56] <GHReyes> andy_js: i'm tell about StormOS[17:40:19] <andy_js> the 2 best ways to help right now are:[17:40:23] <andy_js> 1: Spread the word[17:40:30] <andy_js> 2: Test packages[17:41:05] *** chrol has quit IRC[17:41:42] <andy_js> dont forget to create an account on stormos.org[17:42:58] <GHReyes> just created![17:43:16] *** chrol has joined ##nexenta[17:47:21] <GHReyes> andy_js: i am online right now[17:53:10] *** proteusguy has joined ##nexenta[17:56:03] <andy_js> GHReyes: cool. I'm thinking about turning the Blogs section into a planet[17:57:05] *** knewt has quit IRC[17:57:13] * andy_js also has a friend that good with graphics working on a decent logo[17:58:04] <GHReyes> andy_js: Can i download a StormOS image or only i must add storm's repos?[17:58:46] *** jmb_ has joined ##nexenta[17:59:08] <GHReyes> anilg: i will spread the word, i had been waiting for a proyect like this since NCP born![17:59:10] *** jmb_ is now known as knewt[18:18:02] <codestr0m> andy_js: we need more help :P[18:28:28] *** bobahPhD has quit IRC[18:38:12] *** chrol has quit IRC[18:44:28] *** baitisj has joined ##nexenta[18:45:09] *** chrol has joined ##nexenta[18:51:39] *** alfism has joined ##nexenta[18:55:25] *** lesterc_ has quit IRC[18:56:34] *** chrol has quit IRC[18:58:12] *** bNick_ has joined ##nexenta[18:58:56] *** bNick_ has left ##nexenta[18:59:31] *** bNick_ has joined ##nexenta[19:00:33] *** bNick_ has quit IRC[19:06:56] *** _bNick_ has joined ##nexenta[19:08:17] *** mcasadevall has joined ##nexenta[19:08:24] *** _bNick_ has quit IRC[19:09:27] *** NCommander has quit IRC[19:24:09] *** baitisj1 has joined ##nexenta[19:29:52] *** JetForMe has quit IRC[19:32:46] *** taltamir has joined ##nexenta[19:38:31] *** baitisj has quit IRC[19:45:34] *** scf has joined ##nexenta[19:45:36] <scf> hi[19:45:47] <scf> I just installed cp2 rc1[19:46:05] <scf> and after executing apt-cache search smart[19:46:07] <scf> got error[19:46:12] <scf> libgpg-error0 - library for common error values and messages in GnuPG components[19:46:37] <scf> lol[19:46:39] <scf> it's not error[19:46:40] <scf> nvm[19:50:50] *** alfism has quit IRC[20:08:49] *** rootard_away is now known as rootard[20:10:43] *** JetForMe has joined ##nexenta[20:15:43] *** andy_js has quit IRC[20:15:49] <scf> if I installed a service with apt-get how to make svcs/svcadm see it?[20:16:28] *** andy_js has joined ##nexenta[20:21:06] *** proteusguy has quit IRC[20:23:40] *** baitisj1 has left ##nexenta[20:30:55] <anilg> scf: SMF support needs to be added to applications that need it[20:31:06] <anilg> We've currently done this for the more popular server packages..[20:31:37] <scf> anilg: asking about smartd in particular[20:31:41] <anilg> If you want to add smf support.. you can follow some instructions I've put up at http://www.gulecha.org/2008/10/23/adding-smf-support-to-your-debian-package/[20:31:51] <anilg> That package is not ported[20:31:57] <anilg> with smf support[20:32:04] <scf> got it[20:32:05] <scf> thanks[20:36:49] *** GHReyes has quit IRC[20:37:16] *** baitisj has joined ##nexenta[20:39:46] *** andy_js has quit IRC[20:41:57] *** proteusguy has joined ##nexenta[20:45:18] *** anilg has quit IRC[20:47:26] *** chrol has joined ##nexenta[20:53:34] *** GHReyes has joined ##nexenta[20:56:21] *** andy_js has joined ##nexenta[21:00:35] *** andy_js has quit IRC[21:17:39] *** chrol has quit IRC[21:17:46] *** alfism has joined ##nexenta[21:24:03] *** ArnieInBrazeel has joined ##nexenta[21:24:10] <ArnieInBrazeel> hi there[21:24:32] <ArnieInBrazeel> hey wpa eap-tls only works with ath driver?[21:38:11] *** proteusguy has quit IRC[21:39:09] *** proteusguy has joined ##nexenta[21:39:54] <eXeC001er> How to use bootadm?[21:40:48] *** fserve has joined ##nexenta[22:00:42] *** ArnieInBrazeel has quit IRC[22:10:16] *** eXeC001er has quit IRC[22:16:37] <scf> why man pages for some commands are empty?[22:21:33] <rootard> scf: there is a bug with man that hasn't been resolved yet[22:22:47] <scf> aha[22:23:16] <scf> rootard: is it easy to update current rc with newer one when it is out?[22:23:40] <rootard> in theory, yes it is very easy.[22:23:59] <scf> how it's done?[22:24:06] <rootard> someone did report that they could not get from a beta to rc1[22:24:15] <rootard> apt-clone dist-upgrade[22:24:22] <scf> aha[22:24:24] <scf> nice[22:29:09] *** andy_js has joined ##nexenta[22:39:20] *** andy_js has quit IRC[22:39:33] *** Bicster has joined ##nexenta[22:39:49] <scf> rootard: is there a way to monitor smart data for ide/sata hdds?[22:40:00] <scf> smartctl doesnt work :([22:40:59] <Bicster> does rc2 support xen/xvm?[22:41:02] <rootard> http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=84959[22:41:40] <rootard> Bicster: nope[22:41:59] <rootard> you can create a Nexenta DomU but it doesn't work as a Dom0[22:42:20] <Bicster> that sucks :([22:43:20] <scf> rootard: thanks, will try[22:43:21] <rootard> I know. It was something I wanted but never got to it... nothing is stopping you though :)[22:43:50] <xinkeT> scf: you can try the SUNWhd utiltity, but you'll need to get that from an SXCE dvd[22:44:05] <xinkeT> it's generally meant for thumpers, but it might work on generic disks/controllers[22:44:10] <Bicster> Well, right now I run a NAS as a linux domU on a linux dom0. If I could install Nexenta as a domU on that box, it would be OK, so long as it's PV[22:44:15] <scf> xinkeT: this package isnt available separately?[22:44:31] <xinkeT> scf: only as part of Solaris Express Community Edition I believe[22:44:38] <scf> okay[22:44:38] <xinkeT> aka SXCE[22:44:41] <scf> thanks[22:44:54] <xinkeT> and it is a SYSV package, not a .deb or anything like that[22:45:25] <scf> this is not a problem I guess[22:45:30] <rootard> Bicster: see topic[22:47:35] <rootard> Bicster: also there is this: http://www.nexenta.org/~tim/jdthomas/nexentacp2rc1.zip[22:47:41] <rootard> produced by the same person[22:48:41] <Bicster> rootard, just read the first blog post, thanks. Looks pretty painful.[22:49:46] <Bicster> is it confirmed working with open source xen?[22:50:11] <rootard> not that I know of but I see no reason it shouldn't[22:50:35] <Bicster> I read somewhere that opensolaris PV required all sorts of non-mainline xen patches to boot as a domU on a linux dom0[22:51:03] *** wt_GoldFingaZ has joined ##nexenta[22:51:17] <rootard> that's probably an old post... but you do need a new-ish xen[22:51:59] <scf> is xen like vmware, virtualpc?[22:51:59] <Bicster> I'm running 3.3.0 right now[22:52:06] *** taltamir has quit IRC[22:52:09] <Bicster> scf, sort-of[22:52:17] <rootard> scf: it is virtualizatin but a different class[22:52:25] <rootard> *virtualization[22:52:53] <rootard> you run a kernel (hypervisor) on your bare metal before you load an os[22:53:12] <rootard> then an OS loads as the primary OS (called a Dom0)[22:53:28] <scf> aha this is what I guessed[22:53:33] <rootard> the Dom0 coordinates starting other OS instances (called DomU's)[22:54:01] <Bicster> ooh my 8-port SAS controller just showed up[22:54:25] <scf> if I have some hardware it should be supported by xen to be usable by doms?[22:54:44] <Bicster> scf, xen doesn't have the hardware drivers - dom0 does[22:54:53] <Bicster> xen is a very, very small kernel[22:55:00] <scf> so dom0 should[22:55:04] <scf> right?[22:55:07] <Bicster> yep[22:55:51] <Bicster> I wonder if I can keep my son occupied with Wonder Pets long enough tonight to get a raidz2 working :)[22:59:00] <scf> doesn't it support windows does it?[22:59:01] *** mcasadevall is now known as NCommander[22:59:32] <rootard> scf: you can run windows in a DomU but it has to be in full-vrtualization mode (hvm)[22:59:32] <Bicster> scf, xen can support windows as a domU. Although the OSS version of Xen is not as good as the commercial version in that regard[22:59:38] <rootard> *full-virt[22:59:45] <Bicster> ^ and that[22:59:48] *** Supert has quit IRC[22:59:49] * rootard cent tipe[22:59:51] <scf> aha[22:59:54] *** GHReyes is now known as GHR_off[23:00:06] <Bicster> xen 1.0 supported windows as dom0 ;)[23:00:20] *** NCommander is now known as mcasadevall[23:00:30] <scf> Bicster: what is your purpose to use it?[23:00:32] <rootard> but who would want to run Windows anyway?[23:00:45] <scf> rootard: just curious :)[23:00:47] <Bicster> rootard, I use it to manage obscure crap like a burglar alarm system[23:00:51] <scf> (reading docs0[23:00:53] <scf> (reading docs)[23:01:53] <scf> Bicster: what oses running there?[23:02:20] <Bicster> scf my xen box is running Gentoo for dom0 and Gentoo, Debian, and WinXP domU's[23:02:42] <scf> nice :)[23:02:50] <Bicster> and I also have an opensolaris testbox running it, but I really don't care much for opensolaris[23:02:55] <scf> and you want to run sunos also?[23:02:57] <scf> aha[23:03:05] <Bicster> I really just want zfs[23:03:15] <scf> many do :)[23:03:32] <Bicster> if freebsd's zfs was stable I'd be looking at debian/kfreebsd or gentoo/freebsd[23:04:12] <scf> isn't it stable yet?[23:04:26] <Bicster> apparently it's awful[23:04:53] *** olsner has joined ##nexenta[23:05:04] <scf> hehe[23:05:15] <Bicster> nexenta looks very interesting. I'm concerned it won't be supported well.[23:07:30] <rootard> Bicster: if you want a supported produect there is NexentaStor (nexenta.com)[23:07:50] <Bicster> rootard, I am totally turned off by the pricing model[23:08:08] <rootard> Yeah, I don't tend to pay for software either.[23:08:33] <Bicster> I don't need support in the traditional sense. I just don't want something that lags too far behind state of the art, bug fixes and so on.[23:08:59] <rootard> Well, getting involved is one way to help that :)[23:09:01] <Bicster> I don't mind paying for software, but usage-based pricing is not for me[23:09:15] <Bicster> I used to be a debian developer for many years. No time for that stuff now :)[23:10:50] <Bicster> speaking of time...need to go pick up kid from school, wife from work. thanks for the info, Tim[23:14:50] <rootard> Bicster: no prob :)[23:15:26] *** proteusguy has quit IRC[23:17:06] <xinkeT> rc1 is having problems installing on an x4240[23:17:18] <rootard> :-/[23:17:36] *** wt_GoldFingaZ has quit IRC[23:17:37] <xinkeT> it gets to the mirroring zfs disks part, and finishes immediately, as in doesn't install anything[23:18:18] <xinkeT> ah well, that's what f2 and debootstrap are for![23:18:33] *** fserve has quit IRC[23:18:59] * rootard should have implemented his fast installer idea...[23:21:25] <xinkeT> which was?[23:22:10] <rootard> a zfs send/recv instead of debootstrapping on every system[23:22:53] <xinkeT> yeah, that would be cool[23:23:01] <rootard> then you just have a bzip'd zfs datastream that gets nicely streamed off of your install media[23:23:14] <scf> after rebooting hostname becomes dhcpp1[23:23:20] <scf> how to solve this?[23:24:26] <scf> dhcppc1[23:28:19] *** fserve has joined ##nexenta[23:35:43] *** proteusguy has joined ##nexenta[23:55:01] *** scf_ has joined ##nexenta[23:55:02] *** scf has quit IRC