April 4, 2009 
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[00:01:57] *** remyzero_ is now known as remyzero[00:12:12] *** lstewart has quit IRC[00:14:45] *** taltamir has joined ##nexenta[00:15:15] *** TALzz has joined ##nexenta[01:13:28] <wulf1> ack, rsync segfaults on my nexenta install[01:34:06] *** mrsteveman1 has quit IRC[01:39:46] *** wurlitzer has joined ##nexenta[01:56:25] *** alfism has quit IRC[02:05:25] *** NCommander has quit IRC[02:08:36] *** NCommander has joined ##nexenta[02:35:37] *** anilg2 has quit IRC[02:45:22] *** Catsceo has quit IRC[02:48:55] *** Catsceo has joined ##nexenta[02:53:46] *** Catsceo has quit IRC[02:56:27] *** Catsceo has joined ##nexenta[02:58:10] *** Catsceo has quit IRC[03:01:07] *** Catsceo has joined ##nexenta[03:06:13] *** Pert has quit IRC[03:06:14] *** Pert has joined ##nexenta[03:20:26] <rootard> wulf1: rsync runs fine for me...[03:32:34] *** JetForMe has quit IRC[03:39:28] *** Mills has joined ##nexenta[03:42:36] <Mills> Greetings, if I may ask, how difficult is it to convert a package in the debian/ubuntu repos to a nexenta one? There are quite a few I need that the nexenta repo doesn't have. Are there perhaps 3rd party repos with non-essential apps packaged?[03:52:06] *** JetForMe has joined ##nexenta[03:57:26] *** JetForMe has quit IRC[04:02:24] <wulf1> rootard : rsync without ssh seems to work, rsync over ssh between linux and nexenta hosts fail for me.[04:04:37] *** olsner has joined ##nexenta[04:10:19] *** tsukasa` has joined ##nexenta[04:12:18] *** wurlitzer has quit IRC[04:19:13] *** olsner has quit IRC[04:25:13] <dtbartle> Mills: it's pretty easy often[04:25:28] <dtbartle> usually just 'apt-get source foo' and debuild[04:25:29] *** tsukasa has quit IRC[04:30:40] *** enderst has quit IRC[04:34:47] *** [JT]_ has joined ##nexenta[04:36:49] *** [JT]_ has quit IRC[04:37:06] *** [JT]_ has joined ##nexenta[04:46:35] *** [JT]_ has quit IRC[04:50:49] <rootard> Mills: still around?[04:51:17] <rootard> wulf1: are you using compression?[04:54:35] <Mills> Yeah I'm still here[05:00:04] <rootard> I see dtbartle gave a hint... do you have any other questions on converting debian sources?[05:01:33] <Mills> Not yet, still working on getting it installed. Was just curious how much time I'd expect to spend building apps not in the official repos[05:01:40] <Mills> Thanks though[05:02:05] *** enderst has joined ##nexenta[05:02:52] <rootard> No prob. It depends on the app. There is an auto-builder that takes care of trivial dependencies. You may have to patch a few depends in order to get your package to compile... depending on your desired package of course.[05:04:38] <Mills> When you say patch a depend, you mean modify the source somehow?[05:05:24] <wulf1> rootard : no compression[05:14:28] <rootard> Mills: yeah, minor modifications may be necessary[05:18:10] *** TALzz has quit IRC[05:19:28] <Mills> Ahh, I don't have any programming ability. Ah well, I'll cross my fingers you guys get more support.[05:19:32] <Mills> Thanks again for your help[05:19:37] *** Mills has left ##nexenta[05:31:24] *** [JT]_ has joined ##nexenta[05:37:50] *** [JT]__ has joined ##nexenta[05:39:14] *** [JT]___ has joined ##nexenta[05:42:43] *** JetForMe has joined ##nexenta[05:44:14] *** [JT]____ has joined ##nexenta[05:52:26] *** [JT]_ has quit IRC[05:52:32] *** [JT]____ has quit IRC[05:56:30] *** [JT]__ has quit IRC[06:03:45] *** [JT]___ has quit IRC[06:22:13] *** koan has quit IRC[06:22:21] *** koan has joined ##nexenta[07:22:20] <codestr0m> morning![07:27:57] *** dtbartle has quit IRC[07:28:02] *** dtbartle has joined ##nexenta[07:30:04] *** MrGrinch has quit IRC[07:51:14] <Macer> hello[08:06:29] *** TALzz has joined ##nexenta[08:12:39] *** [JT]_ has joined ##nexenta[08:13:12] <[JT]_> Is there a quick way to enable automatic ZFS snapshots on NexentaCP 2?[08:15:03] <Corwin7> cron job[08:15:29] <[JT]_> Okay - thanks. Used to OpenSolaris' services.[08:18:40] *** [JT]_ has quit IRC[08:40:13] *** fserve has joined ##nexenta[09:07:18] *** fserve has quit IRC[09:33:06] *** baitisj has quit IRC[09:51:34] *** JetForMe has quit IRC[09:51:48] *** JetForMe has joined ##nexenta[10:00:37] *** anilg has joined ##nexenta[10:23:54] *** andy_js has joined ##nexenta[10:25:58] <andy_js> Does the autobuilder have basic 'porting' knowledge or does it just fail misserably when a package needs tweaking?[10:28:52] <anilg> andy_js: currently option b)[10:29:18] <anilg> it simply calls the build script that either builds or fails.[10:29:36] <anilg> Fortunately, the roadblocks have been far..[10:29:59] <anilg> so relatively few packages in the contrib repository needed manual building[10:31:01] <dtbartle> what are people's thoughts on ibm buying sun?[10:32:06] <anilg> unless a part of the deal involved IBM's assurance of not doing away with opensolaris, IBM has a history of closing down competing projects after buying them[10:32:37] <anilg> If it were to GPL zfs.. that would spell the death of opensolaris.[10:33:09] <andy_js> and the death of Nexenta?[10:33:10] <anilg> I guess we'll know more on monday when the deal is supposed to be announced[10:33:37] <anilg> andy_js: not in the short term. The sources are still out there and a community maintaining it[10:33:50] <dtbartle> ibm would be pretty insane not to gpl opensolaris[10:34:26] <dtbartle> adding zfs and dtrace to linux would be an very good move on ibm's part[10:34:38] <dtbartle> ibm already has a jvm too[10:35:26] <dtbartle> no idea what they would do with mysql[10:35:39] <andy_js> Poor old BSD always seems to lose out :([10:35:42] <dtbartle> probably just leave it as is or try to integrate it into db2[10:36:03] <anilg> there was a comment I saw, and all the things IBM is buying, they have an equivalent product.[10:36:14] <anilg> which spells doom for the being bought product[10:36:35] <dtbartle> the closest thing to zfs is btrfs afaik[10:36:48] <andy_js> yeah, anyone tried that?[10:36:53] <dtbartle> and that's still a way's off[10:36:56] <anilg> It's not close to being production ready and trusted ..[10:37:07] <anilg> probably 2010 or 11[10:37:36] <dtbartle> one gotcha with zfs is netapp's suit against sun[10:38:31] <anilg> dtbartle: IIRC, all but one of those was rejected by the court..[10:38:38] <anilg> and the last one was headed that way too..[10:50:31] <codestr0m> dtbartle: as the expression goes.. "netapp doesn't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of"[10:57:33] <rootard> I think even with ZFS/dtrace being available in Linux or GPL'd that OpenSolaris still has much tighter integration of these core technologies than Linux has[10:58:40] <rootard> of course, firing/retasking most of the engineers who currently work on OpenSolaris will be bad[10:58:59] <rootard> I do wonder what will happen to existing support contracts[11:03:14] * andy_js has friends at SUN, that would sucks[11:03:42] <dtbartle> there's a lot of bright people there[11:03:51] <dtbartle> (i know from reading osol-code)[11:04:07] * andy_js needs more coffee, too many typos[11:04:55] <andy_js> yeah, there are some _really_ good people at SUN[11:18:31] *** taltamir has quit IRC[11:28:58] <wulf1> rsync crashes with a error allocating core memory buffers message. I'm trying to sync 800gb, and it's not playing nice :/[13:31:52] *** olsner has joined ##nexenta[13:41:09] <codestr0m> http://www.osunix.org/poll.jspa?poll=1000[13:52:12] *** wurlitzer has joined ##nexenta[14:13:44] <Macer> hm[14:13:56] <Macer> wonder if zimbra can be installed in nexenta :)[14:24:45] <anilg> Macer: what language is it written in?[14:25:21] <Macer> java[14:25:31] <Macer> although most of it i'm sure is C[14:25:42] <Macer> it is a bunch of open apps with java running the show[14:28:48] <andy_js> Anyone got a minute?[14:28:59] <andy_js> I'd appreciate some feedback from stormos.org[14:29:10] <codestr0m> andy_js: what sort of minute?[14:29:25] <andy_js> Just a quick glace really[14:29:36] <andy_js> s/glace/glance[14:30:21] <codestr0m> andy_js: well. I could comment on the content, but not sure what you're looking for feedback on[14:30:35] <andy_js> 'StormOS'[14:30:47] <codestr0m> andy_js: I guess my first question is "why"?[14:30:48] <anilg> andy_js: You should get in touch with wavejumper[14:31:03] <andy_js> wavejumper?[14:31:09] <anilg> he has already done some works towards what you have in mind.. so you could pool your efforts..[14:31:17] <anilg> he's in the room now[14:31:22] <andy_js> cool[14:31:34] <codestr0m> andy_js: what bugs did you find with smart[14:31:36] <anilg> The lat I knew he had a working XFCE iso..[14:31:38] <codestr0m> those guys are great to resolve stuff[14:31:40] <anilg> last*[14:32:13] <andy_js> codestr0m: It crashes with an X error, I think its a threading issue.[14:32:38] <codestr0m> andy_js: check a recent release. afb pushed something out and did you file a bug report?[14:33:19] <andy_js> codestr0m: I was using smartpm 1.2, the latest AFAIK[14:33:29] <codestr0m> andy_js: and do you really *know* the difference between smart and Synaptics.. I mean.. there's a distinct reason to run smart you know[14:34:09] <codestr0m> anyway.. I'll save my evangelism for my neighborhood.. not too many people are interested around here[14:34:34] <andy_js> codestr0m: the difference? yeah, of course[14:35:11] <andy_js> that is why I thought to use it to start with[14:35:30] <codestr0m> I'd highly recommend then that you keep at it.. get your bug fixed[14:35:39] <codestr0m> add the patch to the package and keep using it[14:35:40] <andy_js> I already sent a patch for the 'locking issue' upstream[14:35:54] <codestr0m> if you'll always just settle for whatever sorta works.. then whatever progress will you make?[14:35:59] <andy_js> So it works, its just unstable though :[[14:36:07] <codestr0m> unstable == needs more fixing[14:36:14] <codestr0m> compile with debugging[14:36:24] <codestr0m> set coreadm or whatever it is you need to test it[14:36:37] <codestr0m> I mean.....[14:36:58] <andy_js> Sure, my plan is to keep hacking on SmartPM.[14:37:14] <andy_js> I'm just trying to get together the first StormOS release[14:37:15] <codestr0m> andy_js: ok. well. we're going to be using it as well[14:37:50] <codestr0m> andy_js: what's the point of stormos and why not contribute to an existing project?[14:38:06] <andy_js> You mean Nexenta?[14:38:16] <codestr0m> eh. bluntly put. .no[14:39:44] <anilg> andy_js: sent the mail[14:40:00] <anilg> is your artwork a part of a package in your stormOS apt repository?[14:43:35] <andy_js> it will be[14:43:50] <andy_js> at the momment only the icon theme is in the repo[14:54:54] <Macer> isn't the newer opensolaris already like stormos?[14:55:18] <Macer> :) people are turning opensolaris into linux.. where there are a million distros[15:09:41] *** flight16_ has joined ##nexenta[15:09:55] <flight16_> howdy[15:12:49] *** flight16_ has quit IRC[15:13:06] *** flight16 has joined ##nexenta[15:19:47] <andy_js> lol, a million distros?[15:20:08] <andy_js> Its Nexenta "Core Platform"[15:24:30] *** remyzero has quit IRC[15:25:48] <flight16> isn't installing on virtualbox :([15:26:35] <flight16> oh, virtualbox was set to 64bit. I wonder if that was a problem. although it worked for other solarises[15:54:20] *** Laevar has joined ##nexenta[15:54:48] <Laevar> hello, is there something like "iftop" for nexenta/opensolaris ?[15:57:30] <anilg> hmm..[15:57:32] <anilg> ~iftop[15:57:32] <nexybot> anilg: Error: "iftop" is not a valid command.[15:57:39] <anilg> ~package iftop[15:57:39] <nexybot> anilg: http://builder.tajinc.org/?f=package_status&view_method=name&package_name=iftop[15:57:59] <anilg> that doesnt exist in our repos[15:58:48] <Laevar> it measures network throughput to hosts or networks[15:59:46] <anilg> Looks like it is present in Milax.. so it should run on opensolaris[15:59:56] <anilg> you can try compiling it by hand..[16:00:06] <anilg> or wait for someone to do it and upload to the repo[16:01:17] <Laevar> let me reformulate it: which are good tools to monitor performance, gather statistics and in general debug nfs on nexenta[16:01:29] <Laevar> i know these from linux, the usual nfsstat and all[16:01:56] <Laevar> but are there specific tools which you would recommend ?[16:04:56] <anilg> none that I'm familiar with.. perhaps someone else can help[16:19:33] *** TALzz has quit IRC[16:31:49] <anilg> Laevar: ok.. I got iftop working :)[16:32:27] <Laevar> oh :) compiled from source ?[16:32:34] <anilg> apt-get install libpcap0.8; wget http://www.nexenta.org/~anil/iftop_0.17-5nexenta1_solaris-i386.deb; dpkg -i iftop_0.17-5nexenta1_solaris-i386.deb[16:32:41] <anilg> yes[16:32:51] <anilg> this needs you to be running on RC1[16:32:56] <Laevar> i am[16:32:59] <anilg> should work on beta2 too, I think[16:33:00] <anilg> great[16:33:06] <anilg> follow those steps and you should be set[16:33:14] <anilg> as root[16:33:33] <Laevar> works, thank you :)[16:34:37] <anilg> nice to know.. I'm uploading to our repositories..[16:34:58] <anilg> one thing I found about iftop is it doesnt work inside zones..[16:35:04] <anilg> otherwise a nice handy tool[16:47:40] *** jc has joined ##nexenta[16:47:50] <Laevar> it really helps sometimes figuring out performance issues regarding applications and user-haibts[16:47:53] <Laevar> habits[16:48:20] <Laevar> (besides other uses of course)[17:00:47] <Laevar> nice weekend[17:00:58] *** Laevar has quit IRC[17:11:10] *** anilg has quit IRC[17:32:53] *** Dysk has joined ##nexenta[17:34:29] *** flight16 has quit IRC[18:12:01] *** mrsteveman1 has joined ##nexenta[18:14:02] *** Dysk_ has joined ##nexenta[18:16:50] *** fserve has joined ##nexenta[18:33:20] *** Dysk_ has quit IRC[18:34:51] *** Dysk has quit IRC[18:55:09] *** fserve has quit IRC[18:56:38] *** fserve has joined ##nexenta[19:29:35] *** fserve has quit IRC[19:30:11] *** fserve has joined ##nexenta[19:35:45] *** dafinga_ has quit IRC[19:36:40] *** dafinga has joined ##nexenta[19:57:10] *** taltamir has joined ##nexenta[19:58:04] *** dafinga has quit IRC[20:08:59] *** dafinga has joined ##nexenta[20:12:59] *** dafinga has quit IRC[20:21:44] *** dafinga has joined ##nexenta[20:36:52] *** andy_js has quit IRC[20:59:29] *** andy_js has joined ##nexenta[21:05:11] *** TALzz has joined ##nexenta[21:15:16] *** ekix has quit IRC[21:19:23] *** ekix has joined ##nexenta[21:25:58] *** taltamir has quit IRC[21:29:27] *** fserve has quit IRC[21:30:17] *** legolasw has joined ##nexenta[21:30:20] <legolasw> Hi[21:30:39] <legolasw> Is there any roadmap and feature planing for nexenta?[21:30:45] <legolasw> Any release date for version 2?[21:32:40] *** TALzz has quit IRC[21:36:42] *** taltamir has joined ##nexenta[21:37:04] *** legolasw has quit IRC[21:38:40] *** wurlitzer has quit IRC[21:42:36] *** googlypi has joined ##nexenta[22:00:14] *** taltamir has quit IRC[22:22:36] *** andy_js has quit IRC[22:46:35] *** tsukasa` has quit IRC[22:48:12] *** tsukasa has joined ##nexenta[22:54:08] *** teknoprep has joined ##nexenta[23:05:39] *** teknoprep has quit IRC[23:25:43] *** googlypi has quit IRC