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[00:02:39] <neoice> LOL
[00:02:47] <neoice> I just "wtf'd" at the 128bit CPU support.
[00:03:24] <neoice> does v2 have a package browser online?
[00:04:30] <Corwin7> maybe that's 128bit memory access support
[00:04:45] <neoice> its a joke
[00:04:56] <Corwin7> ;)
[00:05:04] <neoice> yeah, so archive.nexenta doesnt track hardy-*
[00:05:08] <neoice> I see them in apt.nexenta
[00:05:34] <neoice> but thats not a convinent frontend for me to browse instead of paying attention in class
[00:05:37] <Corwin7> I would love to have aversion of svn that worked, I hope it's in there along with clamAV
[00:05:54] <dewd> subversion works for me
[00:06:37] <Corwin7> I get: svn: This client is too old to work with working copy '.'; please get a newer Subversion client
[00:06:44] <neoice> lol
[00:07:06] <Corwin7> ii subversion 1.4.6dfsg1-2nexenta2
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[00:07:22] <dewd> would be nice though if the apt db was in an consistent state and all missing pkg's would be in an deb-src so one could try to fix/port thos packages from source without too much hassle
[00:07:30] <Corwin7> All in all Nexenta is really coming together
[00:07:48] <dewd> many virtual packages without candidates :-(
[00:07:55] <neoice> yeah
[00:08:08] <dewd> btw virtualbox is running also with gui now
[00:08:11] <Corwin7> it's getting better, we'll probably be there in a few months
[00:08:17] <neoice> how is the 2.0 install process?
[00:08:22] <Corwin7> that cool about virtualbox
[00:08:35] <dewd> no changes made since yesterday must like that nice weather today ;-)
[00:08:38] <neoice> and does anyone know if mpd works? I saw a bunch of mpd-related stuff on ftp-uploads
[00:08:45] <Corwin7> I'm interested in running in headless for seamless RDP
[00:11:34] <dewd> somehow it only runs as root though, complains about missing libs as an normal user wtf
[00:11:53] <dewd> what could this be as they are readable for that user
[00:11:58] <neoice> hm.... how hard is it to start building stuff for Nexenta?
[00:12:15] <neoice> cause I really like it but I just need so much stuff thats NOT in the repos.
[00:12:38] <dewd> neoice: well it's not as simple as it should be, the devzone stuff is great
[00:12:53] <dewd> but the debian/apt part seems somewhat broken
[00:13:20] <dewd> apt-src command has an issue with it's lockfile
[00:13:34] <dewd> probably 64/32 bit issue
[00:13:44] <dewd> apt-build is not included
[00:14:53] <dewd> and the apt db is not very consistent, I find many broken deps and the source packages won't work then as well
[00:15:06] <dewd> that makes it a lot of work
[00:15:44] <dewd> so what could be the cause of virtualbox only running as root and not finding my libs which I gathered so nicely
[00:16:08] <dewd> is LD_LIBRARY_PATH not handled as an normal user in the kernel
[00:16:36] <dewd> or is it that I just scp-ed the libs and not rsync so the links are not correct ?
[00:17:15] <dewd> libX11.so is just the same file as libX11.so.4
[00:18:08] <dewd> VirtualBox: supR3HardenedMainGetTrustedMain: dlopen("/opt/VirtualBox/amd64/VirtualBox.so",) failed: ld.so.1: VirtualBox: fatal: libX11.so: open failed: No such file or directory
[00:18:15] <dewd> it IS THERE though
[00:18:38] <dewd> superhardened thingy is not alowing this or what ?
[00:19:14] <dewd> Ikke nie snappe
[00:23:50] <dewd> it's an package issue it should be compiled with --disable-hardening
[00:24:49] <dewd> The executable should be SUID root. You do this by executing chmod 4755 /path/to/executable
[00:24:58] <dewd> ahh only runs as root anyway
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[00:27:34] <teknoprep> does nexenta support the hp smartarray p410 ?
[00:30:09] <dewd> teknoprep: google say no (doesn't say yes)
[00:30:21] <teknoprep> ?
[00:30:40] <dewd> look for opensolaris, nexenta supports what they support, same kernel
[00:31:01] <dewd> gg: opensolaris smart array p410
[00:31:10] <teknoprep> nobody says anything
[00:33:14] <teknoprep> i know the p400 is supported
[00:33:25] <teknoprep> i was just wondering if the p410 is the same chipset but with raid50 support
[00:33:30] <teknoprep> this is driving me nuts
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[00:56:43] <Macer> hm
[00:56:49] <Macer> nat doesn't seem to be working in vbox
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[01:07:57] <Macer> blah.. i just chose "host" heh
[01:08:06] <Macer> hope that's not a big deal. this is great if this works
[01:14:55] <Macer> dewd: thanks for the help. kind of sucks i have to run it as root but that's better than nothing ;)
[01:15:00] <Macer> i'm setting up a fbsd VM now
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[03:02:38] <rootard> neoice, dewd: the idea behind having all of the packages that don't meet depends is so that people have less effort to port packages they want.
[03:03:07] <rootard> When I cam to the project and I wanted to build package X I would have to build 10 deps that trivially compiled before I could even think about X
[03:03:33] <rootard> This got very tiresome so I constructed an autobuilder to take care of the tricial stuff
[03:03:41] <rootard> *trivial
[03:04:13] <rootard> Also, as deps are filled, more trivial packages will be put into place automatically
[03:06:00] <rootard> Generally to fix something you just need to add appropriate deb-src lines and then "apt-get update;apt-get source {packagename}"
[03:06:38] <rootard> then the usual process applies (patch;dpkg-buildpackage -sa;test;...;dput package-name*changes)
[03:07:51] <rootard> If you become serious about fixing things the autobuilder may help a little. For example take a look at the tags page: http://builder.tajinc.org/?f=tags
[03:08:44] <rootard> As packages are built (and fail) the logs are uploaded and filtered for strings in order to match these tags
[03:09:22] <rootard> If you find a problem that happens during different builds you can define a new tag to find the same problem across many previous/future builds
[03:30:57] <anilg2> lo all
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[03:31:07] <dtbartle> hi
[03:31:17] <anilg> rootard: built against unstable
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[04:06:05] <rootard> anilg: ok, I guess we are going to just dump hardy-testing then?
[04:07:39] <anilg> yes.. we havent really been maintaining it.. and package uploads havent been making their way to it. With the final release, we could generate hardy-testing/stable and use that.. and keep unstable for further modifications
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[04:31:07] <rootard> ok, then I guess we need to find the packages that were put there for bugs-sake and port them back up to hardy-unstable'
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[04:44:07] <[JT]> Working on getting NexentaCP 2 RC1 installed as a domU. I've made some progress by altering the miniroot file (including the i86xpv kernel in that archive). However, the /devices tree in that archive does not have any of the Xen devices (/devices/xpvd/*).
[04:44:17] <[JT]> Can anyone tell me how to create those?
[04:44:45] <[JT]> I started using mknod to mirror the structure I see on my OpenSolaris box, but quickly realized that the major/minor numbers are different on Nexenta.
[04:45:27] <[JT]> Or perhaps they're different on every box - I don't really understand the device layout.
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[04:54:49] <rootard> I thought /devices was automatically populated?
[04:56:36] <[JT]> Perhaps so.
[04:57:35] <[JT]> http://www.pastebin.ca/1379571
[04:58:06] <[JT]> I've gotten the kernel to boot and start to look for disks; it finds the hard drive, but can't seem to find the CD.
[04:58:41] <[JT]> Additionally, the console doesn't respond, so I suspect that xencons isn't getting set up correctly.
[04:58:43] <Macer_> awesome. got my fbsd dns going in vbox in nexenta
[04:59:01] <Macer_> and it's working.. if i can figure out how to get this vmware vdisk to work also then i'll be a happy camper
[04:59:53] <[JT]> It's possible that the /devices on the ramdisk (miniroot) is being populated, but I can't get far enough to inspect it.
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[05:05:15] <rootard> [JT]: what error are you getting?
[05:05:31] <[JT]> And looking at the /devices/pseudo directory on the miniroot ramdisk, it looks like all of the devices are there.
[05:05:52] <[JT]> Did you see the pastebin?
[05:06:38] <rootard> ah, I see it now
[05:08:10] <[JT]> I feel like I'm close, but can't quite get to the finish.
[05:08:16] <rootard> You might try booting with -m milestone=none -v
[05:08:45] <[JT]> As a parameter to the kernel?
[05:08:46] <rootard> That should drop you to a prompt (I think)
[05:08:49] <rootard> yes
[05:08:54] <[JT]> Ok - I'll try it.
[05:08:57] <rootard> it will skip loading any services
[05:13:09] <[JT]> Interesting... That provides a lot more information. Check that pastebin again. I think I might need to specify xencons0 to get a workable prompt...
[05:14:42] <rootard> That looks pretty normal
[05:14:47] <[JT]> Dang. Still can't enter any commands.
[05:14:53] <rootard> I think you have a working console already
[05:15:17] <rootard> the root password should be blank so you can just hit enter and hopefully get a prompt?
[05:15:59] <[JT]> Nope - doesn't respond to keystrokes.
[05:16:15] <rootard> hmm
[05:16:44] <rootard> usb keyboard?
[05:17:19] <[JT]> No - XenCenter application window.
[05:17:23] <[JT]> :)
[05:17:38] <rootard> I wonder how it presents a keyboard to the OS...
[05:17:44] <rootard> ps2/usb/...
[05:19:01] <[JT]> That's a good question... I think it's a specific driver for Xen. Linux represents it as hvc0, I think.
[05:20:03] <rootard> Maybe this is partially relevant: http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=239608
[05:22:25] <[JT]> Hmm. Interesting.
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[05:51:46] <[JT]> Can "install_media" be set to anything other than "cdrom"? Xen is finding my cdrom, but not recognizing it as a cdrom:
[05:51:47] <[JT]> http://www.pastebin.ca/1379611
[05:51:57] <[JT]> xdf@51760 is the CDROM device.
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[06:31:01] <[JT]> Ah. Got a command prompt.
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[09:51:15] <Laevar> hello, is it possible to install nexentaos 2.0 with manual partitioning ?
[09:51:32] <vherva> Does anyone have experience on installing Nexenta on Areca-1261 SATA RAID controller?
[09:52:56] <vherva> I have Asus p5b-vm mother board and a Areca-1261 with three 1GB drives. It tried to install Nexenta v2.0 rc1 b104 on it, but the install dies after "arcmsr0:Areca SATA Host Adapter RAID Controller (RAID6 capable) arcmsr0:1.20.00
[09:52:56] <vherva> 15Sun arcmsr0: ARECA RAID FIRMWARE VERSION V1.46 2009-01-06_" line
[09:53:05] <vherva> It just hangs there for ever.
[09:56:30] <Corwin7> is it a silicon image 3112 chip?
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[09:59:44] <vherva> The Areca ARC-1261? I'll have to check, just a minute
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[10:12:09] <vherva> I ndon't think its SIS 3221 based, it has its own driver arcmsr0... But I don't know for sure
[10:12:54] <vherva> I can't find any Silicon Image chips on the controller, but then again the largest one has a heat sink on it, so I can't see it
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[11:30:55] <remyzero> vherva: do you have anything connected to the onboard sata controller?
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[13:15:24] <Laevar> how can i installgrub from a bootcd correctly ?
[13:15:54] <Laevar> i copied the rootpool via zfs send/receive on a smaller slice and then must reinstall grub, but it never works
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[14:36:58] <Macer> well
[14:37:20] <Macer> vbox is working and i was able to just use fbsd for the dns
[14:38:30] <Macer> waiting to test out zimbra
[14:38:43] <Macer> will be interesting to see how well it works
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[15:11:48] <mira|AO> how does one provide (source) packages for nexenta, in case someone thinks these from hardy are too old?
[15:12:31] <codestr0m> Anyone interested to learn more about hacking the solaris kernel http://sl.osunix.org/FreeKernelTrainingDay
[15:12:38] <codestr0m> dtbartle / rootard_zzz ^
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[15:33:38] <andy_js> codestr0m: cool
[15:34:38] <codestr0m> andy_js: feel free to sign-up I think it's going to be great
[15:34:49] <codestr0m> I'm fixing some typos now
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[15:59:39] <andy_js> codestr0m: what is your prefered DE?
[16:00:01] <andy_js> same goes for everyone here.
[16:00:37] <codestr0m> andy_js: I'm explicitly making our project for *developers*
[16:01:10] <mira|AO> evilwm
[16:02:27] <andy_js> well I'm explicitly makeing my project (stormos.org) for users :p
[16:02:28] <mira|AO> + uxterm, GNU screen, mksh, lynx, pine, sirc
[16:02:33] <mira|AO> :þ
[16:02:40] <mira|AO> well, look at mksh though </eigenwerbung>
[16:05:06] <mira|AO> for “users” I’d suggest IceWM
[16:05:31] <mira|AO> that’s what I first used when encountering X11, and still use when evilwm is not an option
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[16:16:48] <RoyK> hm. the pages say 256MB needed, but installer says 'image does not fit into memory'
[16:17:10] <RoyK> I'm going to upgrade the box later, but I only have 256MB of PC2100R....
[16:17:16] <RoyK> as of now
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[16:20:37] <mira|AO> anyway, so how'd I get an updated version of a package into nexenta?
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[16:31:49] <Macer> well... so far 1 vboxes set up
[16:31:52] <Macer> 2
[16:32:10] <Macer> i need to get home to test the zimbra one out
[16:43:27] <codestr0m> anilg: any tips on how to get slashdotted? :)
[16:43:29] <codestr0m> you've done it before
[16:43:50] <anilg> I have?
[16:44:27] <anilg> The one instance I recollect is the article written by kim0 in this room, which made it.
[16:44:47] <anilg> a howto or a "Reasons why this is good" type article could make it
[16:46:05] <anilg> lately lots of sensationalist articles are being accepted.. so "OSunix forking opensolaris" could work..
[16:47:25] <Macer> hm.. i should just set the stuff up manually for emails
[16:47:38] <Macer> i need to fix my MX record too
[16:48:33] <anilg> Macer: care to jot down some notes on the Nexenta wiki on setting up Vbox on NCP2?
[16:48:56] <Macer> there is a nexenta wiki?
[16:49:01] <anilg> yes
[16:49:06] <anilg> nexenta.org is a wiki
[16:49:23] <anilg> nexenta.org/os/Vbox will be a new page..
[16:49:52] <Macer> it would probably be better to wait
[16:50:18] <Macer> considering the lib problem w/ 64bit machines
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[16:53:46] <Laevar> is there a way how i can shrink the root-slice in nexenta 2 ?
[16:54:24] <anilg> pools dont yet have the capability to shrink..
[16:54:42] <Laevar> yes i know
[16:55:23] <Laevar> but there must be a way to install, create new pool, copy root-data, reslice first disk, copy data back and be up and running
[16:55:48] <Laevar> because it is also not possibe to *install* on a small root-slice, which would solve all my problems
[16:56:35] <Laevar> i tried this using zfs send/receive but every time i failed trying to reinvoke grub e.g. booting
[16:57:25] <anilg> i can point you to the nexenta-install script which can show you how it handles grub installation.. if that'll help
[16:58:21] <Laevar> that might help, where i can find it ?
[16:59:21] <anilg> in the installer environment.. press f2 and do a which nexenta-install .. the installer script should be under /usr/gnusolaris in the install cd environment
[16:59:51] <anilg> let me see if I can track it down on our devel machine and uplaod it somewhere
[16:59:55] <anilg> upload*
[17:00:17] <Laevar> i can look it up on the cd , thats no problem
[17:00:17] <codestr0m> anilg: in true UNIX style it's OSUNIX ;)
[17:00:20] <codestr0m> all caps
[17:00:55] <anilg> Laevar: do ping back with how it goes
[17:01:18] <Laevar> anilg: yes, and thank you
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[17:05:45] <anilg> Laevar: http://www.nexenta.org/~anil/nexenta-install.sh
[17:05:51] <anilg> its a bash script
[17:07:00] <anilg> install_grub() is the function you need
[17:15:01] <Laevar> hm, i don't see what i am doing wrong, besides the freshly installed menu.lst cannot be really working
[17:15:28] <Laevar> there is no hint of which partiton/disk to use
[17:16:47] <Laevar> is this the install-script which is used in the installation-process of nexentacp 2 ?
[17:17:15] <Laevar> there seems to be an option to manual partition and install nexenta into
[17:19:28] <anilg> yes this is the script..
[17:19:30] <Laevar> or at least i can adjust the script to be able to install on a smaller slice
[17:19:44] <anilg> the manual partition parts are not active..
[17:19:52] <Laevar> yes, but i need them ;)
[17:19:53] <anilg> yes, you could edit the script and then run it
[17:20:19] <anilg> so you could hardcode the size of the slice..
[17:20:24] <Laevar> perhaps i simply adjust the automatic process, that it will work
[17:20:32] <Laevar> yes, that i am going to do
[17:21:27] <Laevar> btw. is it so unusal wanting a small root-slice ?
[17:21:42] <Laevar> unusual
[17:22:12] <anilg> usually NCP is used as a stoage server.. so whole disks installations are not an issue.. but we do get requests for manual sizing ability
[17:22:23] <anilg> something for the releases after NCP2 final
[17:22:38] <Laevar> i want to use it as storage-server..
[17:22:49] <Laevar> but i only have 6 disk-slots
[17:22:56] <Laevar> so wasting 2 for root is not an option
[17:23:15] <anilg> only one is fine.. just select that disk when installing
[17:23:32] <Laevar> 2 because there should be mirroring for the root-pool
[17:23:42] <anilg> ah.. ok
[17:24:30] <Laevar> i want to create small say 10gb slices over all 6 disks, using in total 60gb . then create slices of ~920 gb with their respectice bitmap volumes on the same disks
[17:25:15] <Laevar> in the end i have to pools, a root-pool stretched over up to 6 disks, and a datapool with 6*920gb of size replicated via AVS
[17:25:25] <Laevar> to=two
[17:26:44] <Laevar> root-pool has mirroring and datapool is using radiz2
[17:27:07] <Laevar> i alredy tested this setup with osol 2008.11 but i was unable to active AVS...
[17:27:32] <anilg> if you are willing to give up on the root pool mirroring, you can setup NCP on one disk, and have raidz2 on the other 5
[17:27:43] <Laevar> and the only hint, which i finally followed: use nexenta... ;)
[17:28:23] <Laevar> that would be possible, but i will waste 1tb instead of 60gb and i will not have any redundancy for the root-disk, which is somehow bad
[17:31:36] <Laevar> it would be, on the other hand, be simpler to setup and will have slightly better performance
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[18:29:22] <Macer> Laevar: i just used the onboard sata and mirrored my box w the install and then just used my hw raid and made a 7TB pool
[18:29:56] <Macer> 2 40G mirrored drives onboard sata and 8x1TB on my areca 1120
[18:30:36] <Macer> nexenta is kicking ass. i was using esxi which imho is garbage and i dont understand why it is so hyped up
[18:30:56] <Macer> i mean cmon.. 2TB vmfs limits/
[18:31:07] <Macer> ? welcome back to 1999
[18:31:59] <Macer> areca 6.2T 599G 5.6T 10~ /mnt/archive
[18:32:07] <Macer> im loving it =)
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[19:02:27] <Laevar> Macer: having 2 separate root-disks is optimal, but i do not have them. btw. why bothering with hardware-raid ?
[19:03:57] <Laevar> this was simple a question of costs
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[19:04:33] <Laevar> "real" fileservers were to expensive, so buy some thing in the middle and make them to fileservers.
[19:06:28] <Laevar> using a server with separate hw-raid is good, but more expensive than a box i have here, which is nothing more than a 6 disk-2HE-rackserver
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[20:52:52] <[JT]> Hi folks, just wanted to quickly chime in and let you know that I have been successful in getting NexentaCP 2 RC1 running, paravirtualized, on a XenServer system. I'll post the full instructions at http://justindthomas.wordpress.com later tonight.
[20:53:20] <[JT]> The process should translate to generic Xen systems as well.
[20:55:11] <xinkeT> now we just need to get Nexenta working as a Dom0
[20:56:05] <[JT]> Yep! I'll leave that for other folks. :)
[20:56:15] <xinkeT> :)
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[22:03:29] <Corwin7> That's awesome JT, I will check it out later
[22:17:56] <rootard_zzz> codestr0m: When is the online kernel hacking course?
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[22:18:13] <codestr0m> did you register?
[22:18:33] <codestr0m> and it's planned for the 18th or 19th.. people need to decide which day
[22:18:38] <rootard> Do I have to register to find out when it is?
[22:20:24] <codestr0m> rootard: it's a free course on solaris kernel programming. I think registration is a small price to pay
[22:20:34] <rootard> :)
[22:20:37] <codestr0m> (Max Bruning is the guy teaching Sun people this stuff)
[22:21:35] <rootard> Yeah, I recognize his name...
[22:21:41] <rootard> ok, registered
[22:22:08] <rootard> either day works so I won't vote
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[22:23:22] <rootard> [JT]: that's great news! I imagine someone can take that info and produce an EC2 image
[22:24:00] <rootard> which has been requested as well...
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[22:27:49] <codestr0m> rootard: ok. well.. look at the topics and make sure to mention which two you find most interesting.. and feel free to blog about this
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[23:02:05] <[JT]> rootard: Hopefully so! That would be pretty nifty.
[23:02:35] <[JT]> Figured out my console problem last night was just a glitch with the XenCenter software - I restarted that and was immediately able to interact with the console.
[23:02:54] <rootard> oh awesome! I love simple fixes like that...
[23:02:59] <[JT]> So you were right in pointing out that it was working. :)
[23:04:00] <rootard> neat :) I'm glad it worked out. I look forward to your blog posting
[23:04:23] <[JT]> Me too.
[23:05:20] <rootard> I think it's a relevant enough issue to put into the channel topic.
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