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[03:26:14] <Macor> hello
[03:26:58] <Macor> just wonering. does nexenta support 64bit cpus? (well... ram > 4G)
[03:27:55] <rootard> Macor: yes, the kernel will automatically support 64-bit cpus
[03:28:42] <Macor> ok. thank you
[03:28:51] <Macor> just wondering because the iso only says x86
[03:29:18] <Macor> and there isn't much on the download page. might i ask .. where can i find its support for an areca 1120 ?
[03:29:48] <Macor> i mean would i just be able to use solaris based drivers on it?
[03:31:01] <Macor> i wanted to try out nexenta as a server to see how well it would work on a dual dual core operton w/ areca (8x1TB) and 8G of ram
[03:31:23] <Macor> mostly as a fileserver which i figure zfs might be good for
[03:32:46] <Macor> and as far as teh beta2 goes.. would the beta automatically update to a stable ver?
[03:32:54] <Macor> once it is released in 2 weeks
[03:33:59] <Macor> sorry to bug you with bothersome questions, but i just don't want to be excited over something that doesn't work :)
[03:38:02] <Macor> well.. guess there is only one way to find out ;)
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[04:14:57] <rootard> Macor: yes, it will upgrade to a stable version once it is released
[04:15:11] <Macor> rootard: thank you. i am going to try it out
[04:15:22] <Macor> sounds awesome.. i want to install it on my server
[04:16:18] <rootard> The areca card should be supported directly off the cd
[04:16:41] <rootard> It was added upstream around snv_99
[04:17:00] <rootard> NCP2 is snv104 + critical patches
[04:20:14] <Macor> wow. that is amazing. so full zfs support with a solaris kernel and ubuntu pkgs? :)
[04:20:38] <Macor> it will be interesting to see how well it performs as a server
[04:21:11] <rootard> There are a lot of Ubuntu packages.. but not all of course
[04:21:14] <Macor> wonder if it has any areca monitoring software or if the solaris stuff will work
[04:21:24] <Macor> oh that is understandable.. as long as it has the typical services which i am sure it does
[04:21:38] <Macor> smb.. nfs.. ssh... httpd.. etc
[04:22:10] <Macor> what about encrypted drive support? does it have something similar to the debian install where you can encrypt the drive?
[04:22:14] <rootard> yup, those are all there. I recommend the in-kernel cifs unless you have a real need for samba
[04:22:25] <rootard> no, that's not supported yet
[04:22:30] <Macor> i honestly have never set up cifs .. but i will try it out
[04:22:46] <Macor> i usually used samba for such things
[04:23:10] <Macor> rootard: well.. it sounds very interesting.. if anything for the zfs support and ubuntu pkging system
[04:23:29] <rootard> The in-kernel cifs is neatly integrated with zfs (as is nfs/iscsi/...)
[04:24:11] <Macor> well.. i will have to read up the docs on it and see if i can get this going
[04:24:23] <Macor> i'm dropping esxi because io for some reason is extremely subpar
[04:24:27] <rootard> The OpenSolaris kernel and apt/dpkg combination got me hooked some time ago ;)
[04:24:38] <Macor> my disk io is 10MB/s .. on a pci-x sata raid? that is horrible
[04:24:55] <rootard> almost sounds like dma was not enabled
[04:25:09] <Macor> doesn't it? :) i checked everywhere trying to figure it out
[04:25:31] <Macor> but i gave up on it... especially since for some sick reason vmfs only supports 2TB LUNs and filesizes
[04:25:35] <Macor> welcome to 1990 :)
[04:25:40] <rootard> I've never been impressed with IO in a VM... except in a zone
[04:26:20] <Macor> i had to really do something retarded.. set up a huge datastore and use a fbsd vm and software raid 5 1TB vdisks
[04:26:37] <rootard> the latest install ISO will support single devices beyond 1TB in size but the previous one did not. You can still have a pool much larger than 1TB though
[04:27:55] <Macor> well. my main goal is to use it as a nas
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[04:28:07] <Macor> it has 8x1TB drives.. and i want space more than anything
[04:28:40] <Macor> space and network access.. it's main purpose is that of a fileserver
[04:28:44] <rootard> the root pool can not be anything but a single device or a mirror. To put those other disks together in a raidz you will have to make a second pool
[04:29:09] <Macor> well.. i have 2 40G drives hooked up to the onboard nforce sata
[04:29:17] <rootard> perfect :)
[04:29:22] <Macor> will it support the fakeraid mirroring?
[04:29:54] <rootard> it will likely see the disks as one... and then work just fine.
[04:30:04] <Macor> hm. i have to do that then
[04:30:13] <rootard> though mirroring on the zfs level is a better idea
[04:30:25] <Macor> wouldn't that be the same as a software raid in fbsd? :)
[04:30:39] <Macor> like using gmirror?
[04:31:09] <rootard> in many respects... yes. But there is much better failure recovery when something goes wrong
[04:31:23] <Macor> well. that sounds like a better solution then
[04:31:35] <Macor> i will just disable the fakeraid mirroring and do it from the OS itself
[04:32:25] <Macor> still kind of sucks that this io is going so horribly slow.. i think i will double check it one more time and see what i can do with it
[04:33:00] <rootard> don't be fooled by the installer :) it's a well-known turtle
[04:33:42] <Macor> heh
[04:35:04] <Macor> hm. i am starting to suspect that the data on my raid is corrupt
[04:35:24] <Macor> ah well.. thanks for all the help. i will come back later and tell you how it went ;)
[04:35:32] <rootard> I look forward to hearing :)
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[05:58:45] <lstewart> Does anyone know how to recover from this error?
[05:58:46] <lstewart> com.nexenta.nms.IOError: permission denied while accessing root at mail-admin2 dot dca2.superb.net:~/.ssh
[05:58:58] <lstewart> I got this while setting up ssh-bind
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[06:13:05] <dtbartle> you don't have read permission on .ssh?
[06:13:23] <dtbartle> i also seem to recall that you can't have .ssh as group readable
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[06:33:30] <Macor> well. i'm about to give this a go
[06:33:45] <Macor> hopefully it just works out :)
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[06:41:51] <Macor> just waiting for 2 of the VMs to xfer off just in case then i'm going to yank out the server and hope this OS works out well :)
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[07:12:32] <Macor> ZFS is a 128-bit file system, so it can address 18 billion billion (1.84 × 1019) times more data than current 64-bit systems. The limitations of ZFS are designed to be so large that they would never be encountered, given the known limits of physics.
[07:12:41] <Macor> given the known limits of physics? :)
[07:27:46] <rootard> Kinda of like IPv6 ...
[07:27:53] <rootard> s/ of//
[07:29:28] <rootard> k, it's beyond late here. Time for sleep. nn all
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[07:47:24] <Macor> is there omething that needs to be done in order to boot into the 64bit kernel?
[07:47:31] <Macor> i'm using beta2
[07:47:45] <Macor> i received errors saying "volume too large for 32bit kernel"
[07:49:41] <Macor> or is the install 32bit and then afterwards it asks you for which kind of kernel you want?
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[08:17:07] <Macor> well. all i have to do is figure out how this zfs stuff works
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[08:55:49] <Macor> anybody around? i'm a little lost while trying to create a mirror of the boot drive
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[09:28:07] <rootard> so much for sleep
[09:28:39] <rootard> Macor: the RC1 iso (which should be released today/tomorrow will probably fix this issue.
[09:29:18] <rootard> The mechanism to choose a 32/64 bit kernel is implemented in grub but the install iso only has a 32-bit env.
[09:29:19] <Macor> the mirroring of the syspool ?
[09:29:32] <Macor> rootard: yes. i was able to boot into 64bit mode
[09:29:43] <Macor> but right now i don't know why i can't attach the 2nd sata drive to syspool
[09:29:46] <rootard> The next iso will have a 64-bit env so you can use devices that are >= 1TB for your pool
[09:30:08] <Macor> it wasn't that big of a deal. i was installing on drives on the onboard sata channels
[09:30:10] <rootard> are you trying to attach it as a mirror or as a stripe?
[09:30:16] <Macor> as a mirror
[09:30:26] <Macor> the install doesn't allow you to set up the mirrored zfs
[09:30:46] <rootard> if you select two drives during the install it should setup a mirror ... or so I thought
[09:30:53] <Macor> i have 2 drives that are exactly the same. i disabled the fakeraid and want to mirror
[09:30:57] <Macor> does it? doh! :)
[09:31:48] <Macor> i could have sworn it just kind of moved on once i hit enter
[09:31:54] <Macor> maybe i was supposed to hit space?
[09:32:05] <rootard> anyway, what error do you get now while trying to attach the second drive to form a mirror?
[09:32:16] <Macor> can not attach efi lableed drive
[09:32:25] <Macor> or something like that.. it's ok though. i will just re-install
[09:32:33] <Macor> better to get it right from the start than to fix it later
[09:32:36] <rootard> (probably, there are a few places the installer is not intuitive)
[09:33:27] <rootard> hrmm, the drive is formatted first with a swap slice. The rest is then added to syspool
[09:33:53] <Macor> yeah. i guess that is what it was doing
[09:33:57] <rootard> this was something I wanted changed but never got enough attention
[09:34:00] <Macor> i would like to mirror it from the install
[09:34:06] * rootard nods
[09:34:14] <Macor> i'm reinstalling now
[09:34:27] <Macor> why is there an fopen error when using apt-get?
[09:34:47] <rootard> because of man-db ... if you upgrade man-db it should go away
[09:34:54] <Macor> ah. i see
[09:35:23] <Macor> how well does this install X?
[09:35:37] <Macor> would be nice to use blackbox or something on it
[09:36:14] <rootard> a minimal Xorg environment is possible in NCP2. xfce4 is fairly complete afaik
[09:36:30] <rootard> some basic gnome components are there as well.
[09:36:45] <rootard> desktop support hasn't been a primary focus
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[09:37:35] <Macor> no big deal
[09:37:43] <Macor> sure seems to be taking a while to boot the install this time around
[09:38:40] <Macor> wtf
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[09:44:43] <Macor> well.. thank you for your help
[09:44:47] <Macor> that saved a ton of time :)
[09:46:59] <Macor> well.. this is awesome
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[10:01:51] <rootard> :) glad to hear it
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[10:15:44] <Macor> you said
[10:15:48] <Macor> man-db correct?
[10:16:04] <Macor> so it would be apt-clone upgrade man-db after an apt-clone update?
[10:20:25] <Macor> hm... i updated man-db and still get fopen errors
[10:20:29] <Macor> it's extremely annoying :)
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[10:50:38] <Macor> well
[10:50:51] <Macor> i got samba going on this box.. i'm avging 100MB/s
[10:50:53] <Macor> it's great
[10:50:57] <Macor> the gbit is MAXED out :)
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[11:06:01] <Macer> hm.. know may sound like  a bad question
[11:06:17] <Macer> but how exactly do i get things to startup automatically in nexenta?
[11:06:26] <Macer> is there an equal to rc.conf or something ?
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[11:12:14] <Macer> svcadm huh?
[11:12:14] <Macer> :)
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[11:18:58] <dtbartle> solaris supports legacy init scripts
[11:19:38] <dtbartle> /etc/rc*.d
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[13:05:00] <Macer> hm
[13:05:09] <Macer> i need to install bind
[13:05:16] <Macer> named... whatever
[13:05:18] <Macer> a dns
[13:08:31] <Macer> well. easy enough. this os is great
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[14:32:30] <Macer> hm
[14:32:41] <Macer> what pkg is pyopenssl a part of?
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[15:03:09] <Macer> hm
[15:03:34] <Macer> i am still getting fopen error msgs after updating man-dv
[15:03:37] <Macer> db
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[16:00:11] <stack> someone has experience in installing nexenta (both 2 and 1.0) in kvm?? Both versions hang up after grub loading..
[16:00:17] <stack> is it my fault?
[16:07:49] <Macer> hm. i am still trying to get rid of this fopen error
[16:08:34] <Macer> other than that tho.. it is a beast
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[16:10:28] <TALzz> hello ppl
[16:10:33] <anilg> Macer: thats a mandb issue..
[16:10:42] <anilg> upgrade man-db and it'll go away
[16:10:48] <anilg> Hety TALzz
[16:10:53] <anilg> hey*
[16:11:06] <TALzz> so i guess the bug i was having is well known
[16:11:19] <TALzz> that if a hard drive fail or u just pull it out
[16:11:24] <TALzz> the system hangs
[16:11:30] <anilg> yes.. looks like it was discussed in detail on the zfs lists
[16:11:51] <TALzz> so it`s not that safe ti use this os/system
[16:12:33] <anilg> well it's a zfs issue, so it will be seen on all opensolaris based distributions.
[16:13:08] <TALzz> and they r not planning on fixing it ?
[16:15:26] <anilg> If I understand correctly, this issue is a bit of your specific hardware and the way zfs works..
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[16:15:47] <TALzz> what`s wrong with my hardware?
[16:16:44] <TALzz> it`s a well know hardware, not some kind of hardware wanna be from korea
[16:17:38] <wulf1> Anyone got any good resources for tweaking NFS performance on nexenta/osolaris?
[16:20:02] <Macer> anilg: tried that
[16:20:20] <Macer> solution was to chown man /var/cache/man
[16:20:37] <Macer> seems to have gone away
[16:20:59] <anilg> ah, yes.. I recollect this. Infact there was a bug filed and fixed in the man-db package
[16:22:22] <TALzz> anilg: and with this BIG bug in the system , ppl still use it ?
[16:23:05] <Macer> er. isnt that serious
[16:23:15] <Macer> =)
[16:23:16] <TALzz> it`s kinda of a major bug, to have ur system hang if one hd fails, if you got like 20 VM on it ur "dead"
[16:23:51] <TALzz> Macer: i`m talking about the bug i got
[16:24:08] <Macer> oh
[16:24:09] <TALzz> that the system halts if one hard drive fails or is pullen out
[16:24:20] <Macer> even on a raid card?
[16:24:36] <TALzz> http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=350750&#350750
[16:24:44] <Macer> ive never seen someone yank a hd like that
[16:24:56] <anilg> http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6497777 is the bud id to keep track of..
[16:24:57] <Macer> the raid card should be revovering it
[16:25:05] <anilg> the 3 minute timeout is whats causing the issue
[16:25:25] <TALzz> but ur not using the raid card for raid, ur using the zfs for reaid
[16:25:43] <Macer> i see
[16:25:53] * anilg is reading though the forum
[16:25:57] <TALzz> anilg: that`s for iscsi
[16:26:00] <TALzz> what about nfs?
[16:26:02] <Macer> i use the raid card
[16:26:05] <Macer> heh
[16:26:13] <Macer> as an actual raid
[16:26:29] <Macer> so the redundancy has both levels of protection
[16:26:37] <TALzz> mmmm
[16:26:47] <Macer> the raid card should adjust the problem before zfs even sees it
[16:26:48] <TALzz> not if u got that hd in a zfs/zpool raid
[16:27:05] <Macer> why not?
[16:27:23] <Macer> i have a 7TB hw raid 5
[16:27:51] <TALzz> and did u pull one of the hd out to see if it`s still working ?
[16:28:02] <Macer> if a drive fails the card will catch it before the zfs does and the corrections should be transparent until the drive is replaced
[16:28:36] <Macer> no. but i did turn one off ... but it was while running fbsd
[16:28:55] <Macer> i put it back in a week later and it bg initialized
[16:28:57] <TALzz> u mean u made it offline ?
[16:29:20] <Macer> if that is what turning the power off on the bay and yanking it means
[16:29:34] <Macer> but i wasnt using zfs
[16:29:40] <TALzz> oh
[16:29:43] <Macer> was fbsd and ufs
[16:29:53] <Macer> but it was totally transparent
[16:29:54] <TALzz> oh so i`m talking about zfs
[16:30:18] <Macer> you wouldnt have even noticed
[16:31:09] <Macer> anyways. fixed this fopen bug
[16:31:18] <Macer> nexenta is great
[16:31:41] <Macer> ive never seen anything go so quick on this box and ive tried everything
[16:32:10] <Macer> think i found a winner for running a server
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[16:54:13] <rootard> morning...
[16:54:23] <rootard> Macer: that's great news :)
[16:56:14] <rootard> anilg: hey
[17:03:07] <TALzz> rootard: sup
[17:04:09] <rootard> TALzz: nothin much, how's things?
[17:06:02] <anilg> rootard: hey
[17:13:30] <codestr0m> rootard: would it be possible for me to get a diff of what you guys apply on top of dpkg to make it build for nexenta
[17:15:26] <rootard> anilg: just replied to email I think... it may have been lost in the ether... if you don't get it in a few mins let me know
[17:15:36] <anilg> got it.
[17:15:40] <rootard> codestr0m: let me see if it's trivial to do or not
[17:15:59] <codestr0m> thanks
[17:17:21] <TALzz> rootard: i`m gonna "sad" that i cant use nexenta :(
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[17:17:27] <TALzz> *kinda
[17:18:20] <TALzz> cause of the issue zfs got with failing hd that hang up the system
[17:19:10] <rootard> How long did you wait for a timeout?
[17:19:41] <TALzz> 2 or 3
[17:20:03] <TALzz> but i cant afford 3 min hang if i got 20vm on this storage
[17:20:14] <TALzz> it means 20 vm's gonna be stuck
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[17:21:50] <rootard> hmm, I wonder if the failmode=continue   property helps at all here?
[17:23:10] <TALzz> where do i set this thing up
[17:23:14] <TALzz> i`ll check it
[17:23:27] <TALzz> i`m still in the testing phase of this os/system
[17:24:08] <rootard> zpool set
[17:24:31] <TALzz> thanks
[17:24:35] <TALzz> i`ll try it
[17:26:46] <rootard> no prob, I hope you can find a working solution
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[17:31:04] <TALzz> rootard: but the one thing that really bother me, is the issue that the spares dont go in like a real hot swap incase of one disk fail
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[17:31:12] <TALzz> so what`s the point of the spares?
[17:32:53] <rootard> codestr0m: the diff is messy and 77k lines long... it includes things like autotools scripts and other noise
[17:34:47] <rootard> TALzz: it should automatically replace the failed device
[17:36:17] <codestr0m> rootard: did you make the diff or that's what's there? if it at least cleanly applies I can make distclean and rediff
[17:38:32] <TALzz> rootard: offline considured to be failed device ?
[17:40:06] <TALzz> i need to enable something to make hot swap on the fly in fail drive ?
[17:41:17] <rootard> TALzz: not sure if "zpool offline" will cause the device to be replaced... there should be a removed status I think
[17:43:41] <rootard> codestr0m: http://www.nexenta.org/~tim/dpkg.diff   <-- the messy diff with lots of extra crud, filter as needed :)
[17:44:03] <TALzz> there is an option that need to be set called autoreplace
[17:44:10] <TALzz> i think it should be on, right ?
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[17:44:27] <codestr0m> rootard: thanks. if I get a problem I can always search for the changes in that file
[17:44:55] <codestr0m> rootard: you missed my question though.. who made this 2M patch ;)
[17:45:09] <rootard> I think the large majority of the file can be ignored. Anything in the debian/* tree for eg.
[18:13:17] <rootard> codestr0m: I just did
[18:13:29] <rootard> by diff'ing the available sources
[18:13:43] <codestr0m> ok. thanks for doing that
[18:13:48] <rootard> no prob.
[18:27:12] <Macer> well
[18:27:23] <Macer> need to get home and set up named
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[18:36:42] <DSpair> Hi all.
[18:37:14] <DSpair> New to Nexenta, long time Linux user. Is it possible to install Nexenta with the root filesystem as ZFS?
[18:40:27] <DSpair> I'm very excited about Nexenta though. The only reason I didn't just install Ubuntu 8.04LTS was that I wanted ZFS capabilities on my server. IF this turns out to be as advertized, I'll be VERY excited.
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[18:48:11] <dewd> so is there some more complete doc about setting up de dev environment ?
[18:48:32] <dewd> devzone_create does not work out of the box
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[19:26:24] <mrsteveman1> dspair: nexenta 2 defaults to using zfs for root
[19:26:55] <mrsteveman1> dspair: i and others have been testing it for a while now, it works very well, and there is even a commercial software package based on it called nexentastor
[19:27:22] <DSpair> mrsteveman1, Yup, just saw that in the installer. Thanks. One thing though, I tried to select all 4 of my SAS disks and the installer hung.
[19:27:59] <DSpair> So, I went back and selected just a single disk and it's installing fine. I'll just add the other drives after the install.
[19:28:26] <mrsteveman1> dspair: so far as i know, suns branch of grub does not support booting from a replicated zfs pool
[19:28:35] <mrsteveman1> so no raidz root, and probably no mirrors
[19:28:41] <DSpair> BTW, the machine is a SunFire X4440.
[19:29:06] <DSpair> mrsteveman1, the suck!!!
[19:29:40] <mrsteveman1> i suspect adding support for all of ZFS capabilities would bloat the grub 0.97 code so much that it wouldn't fit anymore
[19:30:00] <mrsteveman1> i'm already running into issues with grub2 size (encryption branch)
[19:30:03] <DSpair> So, your root filesystem cannot be RAID-Z or ZFS mirrored.. That's a big bummer.
[19:30:24] <mrsteveman1> the project guys can probably tell you better, but that was my impression
[19:30:52] <mrsteveman1> there is a size limit for bootloader code, i believe caused by the first partition starting a 32.5kb
[19:30:58] <mrsteveman1> at
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[19:31:24] <DSpair> mrsteveman1, I thought Sun used UEFI for their BIOS, and that it would allow larger bootloaders?
[19:31:29] <mrsteveman1> UEFI does
[19:31:32] <mrsteveman1> sure
[19:31:43] <mrsteveman1> i assumed you were talking about a standard x86 machine
[19:31:53] <mrsteveman1> i don't however know if nexenta supports efi
[19:32:10] <mrsteveman1> i know grub-legacy, the one everyone uses, doesn't support EFI
[19:32:37] <mrsteveman1> grub2 does, but no one is using it yet, and i don't think sun has a branch of grub2 that supports both efi and zfs
[19:32:38] <DSpair> As I mentioned, this is a SunFire X4440. 4xQuad-Core, 64bit, 16GB RAM. It's going to be our new Web Application server here at the office.
[19:33:47] <mrsteveman1> if that machine has UEFI firmware, it is probably going to end up using the EFI compatibility support module to boot legacy grub code
[19:33:53] <DSpair> So, I wonder if the latest Solaris installer will allow for RAID-Z/ZFS mirrored root FS?
[19:34:33] <mrsteveman1> the main solaris code? i doubt it
[19:34:33] <DSpair> I only have 4 disks on the machine, and if I have to dedicate to of them to a hardware mirror, I can't really gain much advantage using ZFS.
[19:34:57] <codestr0m> DSpair: there's a gsoc proposal for raidz(2) booting
[19:35:08] <codestr0m> so maybe in 6 months we'll have a better solution
[19:35:22] <DSpair> codestr0m, Good to know. Google, gotta love those guys.
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[19:35:32] <codestr0m> mrsteveman1: sun has a grub2 branch that supports zfs. where?
[19:35:43] <codestr0m> (oopse read wrong)
[19:35:44] <mrsteveman1> i was saying i don't think they do
[19:35:46] <mrsteveman1> :)
[19:35:56] <codestr0m> yeah. because I'm working with the grub developers on this
[19:36:02] <mrsteveman1> however grub2 does support LVM and i think linux mdraid so its possible
[19:36:09] <codestr0m> but sun is a sneaky thing.. so it wouldn't surprise me
[19:36:13] <mrsteveman1> yea
[19:36:15] <DSpair> Well, the one upswing is that I can go back to my nice comfy Linux... :)
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[19:36:26] <codestr0m> DSpair: yes. go back :)
[19:36:30] <codestr0m> lvm != zfs
[19:36:34] <mrsteveman1> yes
[19:36:47] <mrsteveman1> however it does implement logical volume management
[19:36:48] <codestr0m> it's like comparing a clone to a super model in terms of reliability and interface design
[19:36:52] <mrsteveman1> i know
[19:36:55] <DSpair> codestr0m, True, but if you can't take advantage of RAID-Z, then it's pretty close.
[19:37:08] <mrsteveman1> im saying its possible to get GRUB2 to support more complicated setups
[19:37:10] <codestr0m> DSpair: it's not my data
[19:37:20] <codestr0m> reliability > all
[19:37:40] <codestr0m> mrsteveman1: grub2 still has a short ways to go
[19:37:52] <codestr0m> the debian guys are tracking it and have a list of what's blocking for them
[19:38:00] <DSpair> codestr0m, Our old WebApps server have been running happily on Linux for 4.5 years. While I would love to move to ZFS, I can't get any more budget this year for more disks to make this work.
[19:38:06] <codestr0m> ufs support and a small kernel patch was resolved for solaris recently
[19:38:29] <codestr0m> DSpair: ok. then come back in 6 months or help sponsor raidz(2)
[19:38:48] <DSpair> If I could get one more disk I could set up hardware mirror for the root FS, then use the other 3 disks for RAID-Z data.
[19:39:03] <codestr0m> DSpair: usb pen drive
[19:39:05] <DSpair> codestr0m, Where do I sign up?
[19:39:23] <codestr0m> DSpair: if you're serious pm me
[19:40:37] <DSpair> codestr0m, Send me a proposal and I'll talk to my UNIX group. Perhaps we could pool a couple thousand to put toward the development work.
[19:40:55] <codestr0m> DSpair: I don't even think it would take that much
[19:41:13] <DSpair> codestr0m, Then consider it an early finishing bonus.
[19:41:16] <codestr0m> and if that's the case. I may just NPO my group to make it a tax deduction
[19:42:10] <DSpair> I know that I can put together at least 1500US, and I am pretty sure that our UNIX user's group could probably double that without breaking a sweat.
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[19:42:34] <codestr0m> DSpair: sweet
[19:43:01] <codestr0m> DSpair: when it comes to money I do prefer in pm though
[19:43:11] <DSpair> codestr0m, It's nice to have a big UNIX community. Our group keeps having to find larger venues to host our monthly meetings.
[19:43:23] <codestr0m> DSpair: where are you guys?
[19:43:24] <DSpair> codestr0m, Sorry 'bout that.
[19:43:31] <DSpair> Louisville, KY, USA
[19:44:12] <DSpair> Well, gotta go to a meeting. Thanks for the help mrsteveman1 and codestr0m .
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[20:09:40] <TALzz> u can install nexenta on 2 hd's
[20:09:45] <TALzz> which will act as mirror
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[20:25:14] <stack> has someone successfully installed nexenta 2 on kvm?! i'm unable to do that due to a hang up after grub boots (in the installation process)
[20:25:40] <TALzz> i did
[20:25:52] <TALzz> with no problem
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[20:46:04] <Macer> blah.
[20:46:31] <TALzz> is there a way to configure nexenta to send me an email incase of disk fail or any fail ? and get reports also?
[20:50:16] <xinkeT> TALzz: NexentaStor has this built-in.  Otherwise you would need something that would monitor ZFS/FMA and report on it.. I don't know of any pre-existing packages that will do that for you.  There might be some scripts floating around or you could write one
[20:50:55] <TALzz> yeah i know nexentastor got it
[20:51:05] <TALzz> but i didnt like the nexentastor much
[20:51:41] <TALzz> a system that need to be admined by cli+gui is lame in my opinion
[20:51:53] <TALzz> it`s either full gui or full cli
[20:53:23] <xinkeT> you can manage it all via the cli, and most of it via the gui
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[20:55:01] <stack> TALzz: do you know how should I debug that in order to understand what's the problem? I've tryed also with qemu with no acceleration with no extra results
[20:55:48] <TALzz> nop i have no idea
[20:55:59] <TALzz> i use Avocent kvm over ip
[20:56:05] <TALzz> works fine
[20:58:23] <stack> mh ok, I've also tryed with different kernels but nothing :\
[20:58:52] <stack> linux and windows in kvm works just fine
[20:59:29] <TALzz> not even the keyboard works for u ?
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[21:02:28] <stack> uh?
[21:03:21] <TALzz> dont mind me, i think i just had a blonde moment
[21:04:12] <stack> ;)
[21:12:44] <stack> http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/650197/Schermata-2.png I get this error
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[21:47:02] <dewd> is the devzone stuff broken in ncp2 ? I've followed this guide http://osnews.com/story/20653/Devzones_Simple_Use-and-throw_Developer_Environments
[21:47:11] <dewd> but nothing good happens
[21:47:28] <dewd> could not verify zfs dataset syspool/users/root: dataset does not exist
[21:48:04] <dewd> i've changed that setting in de /etc/devzone/devzone.conf
[21:48:17] <dewd> but it seems this is not used ???
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[21:58:24] <dewd> k the setting seems to be stored somewhere else, creating one under a new name asks questions again about settings for the devzone
[21:59:03] <dewd> devzone_create does say this again: could not verify zfs dataset data/devusers/mark: mountpoint cannot be inherited
[22:15:32] <Macer> alrighty.. i'm home.. now let me work on this damn dns
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[23:16:35] <rootard> dewd: still around?
[23:16:56] <rootard> Macer: the bind9 package should work out of the box
[23:34:10] <Macer> rootard: yeah. i am configuring it now
[23:34:25] <Macer> i am a little tired now though and sometimes setting up a dns correctly can be a pain
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[23:37:38] <rootard> yeah, I developed a system to manage my dns needs if you are serious about it you may give it a look
[23:39:09] <rootard> I've developed a few different systems... but I published the one I think is best
[23:39:31] <Macer> well.. i already have the configs
[23:39:44] <Macer> i just need to move them into the nexenta bind and start it up
[23:39:44] <rootard> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xmdns/
[23:40:06] <Macer> it just becomes a pain when you screw 1 thing up and search for the error for a day :)
[23:40:16] * rootard nods
[23:41:12] <Macer> i think i am more happy with my 100MB/s xfer speeds than anything
[23:41:14] <Macer> heh
[23:42:45] <Macer> the bind config looks almost exactly the same as fbsd minus the place where it stores it
[23:42:55] <Macer> then again i suppose that is more a matter of the .conf than anything
[23:45:12] <Macer> ah well. i need to finish setting up a vista box
[23:45:23] <Macer> thanks for all the help. the OS is great
[23:45:46] <rootard> :) glad to help
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