February 24, 2017 
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February 24, 2017 [00:18:57] *** danimal2 <danimal2!~danimal2@c-73-204-220-99.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:57:42] *** rizonz <rizonz!~rizonz@184.75.250.58> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[01:24:03] *** bbankes <bbankes!~bbankes@75-169-251-158.slkc.qwest.net> has joined #netbeans[01:37:27] *** bbankes <bbankes!~bbankes@75-169-251-158.slkc.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:51:24] *** danimal2 <danimal2!~danimal2@c-73-204-220-99.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #netbeans[02:11:38] *** NickG365_ <NickG365_!~NickG365@cortex.starlabs.theflash.rocks> has joined #netbeans[02:13:43] *** NickG365 <NickG365!~NickG365@cortex.starlabs.theflash.rocks> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:13:43] *** NickG365_ is now known as NickG365[02:23:08] *** millerti <millerti!~millerti@cpe-66-24-91-119.stny.res.rr.com> has joined #netbeans[03:30:00] *** snow_bckspc <snow_bckspc!~snow_bcks@ganon.dot-server.net> has quit IRC (Quit: User was destroyed by a weapon of mass destruction.)[03:30:56] *** snow_bckspc <snow_bckspc!~snow_bcks@ganon.dot-server.net> has joined #netbeans[03:31:45] *** danimal2 <danimal2!~danimal2@c-73-204-220-99.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:00:48] *** millerti <millerti!~millerti@cpe-66-24-91-119.stny.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[04:04:41] *** javastro <javastro!42dedf7b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.222.223.123> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[04:41:04] *** cpe <cpe!~cpe@unaffiliated/cpe> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:41:45] *** cpe <cpe!~cpe@unaffiliated/cpe> has joined #netbeans[04:47:54] *** prxq_ <prxq_!~quassel@x4db08414.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #netbeans[04:51:58] *** prxq <prxq!~quassel@x4db29a15.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[05:24:09] *** aiena <aiena!~aiena@unaffiliated/aiena> has joined #netbeans[05:24:46] <aiena> In netbeans is there a way to make one particular code panel occupy full space hiding the other frames[05:25:06] <aiena> lets say I have split the code space into four divisions[05:28:31] <sfisque> double click the tab[05:29:04] <sfisque> double click tab again, to revert to normal[05:37:50] <aiena> ok[05:38:11] <aiena> nice :)[05:38:19] <sfisque> :-D[05:46:23] <aiena> thanks a lot this is really handy instead of closing multiple tabs and reopening them. It makes working a lot easier.[05:47:06] <sfisque> NB has oodles of "hidden" features that are lurking below the surface. once you find them, they are real productivity enhancers[05:50:39] <sfisque> one of my faves is if you type a class reference that is not imported, NB will offer to search maven central. and if it finds it, it will also update the deps in your pom.xml files. nice automation[05:55:11] <aiena> sfisque, I dont know java I use it for PHP[05:55:19] <sfisque> oh, gotcha[05:55:45] <aiena> I tweaked it a bit. Needed to find a way to override the php autocomplete changing 'false' to 'FALSE'[05:55:54] * sfisque nods[05:55:57] <aiena> Apparently it was defined in one .php file in the IDE[05:56:37] <aiena> I think the text editing features could use some improvement. Every IDE has its joys and quirks.[05:57:04] <aiena> I tried Jetbrains too once you use netbeans certain features there can be annoying too.[05:57:13] <sfisque> aye. TBH, php is kind of a red-headed step child in the NB world. support is "decent", but java and C are the primary focus of support[05:57:25] <aiena> I agree.[05:57:34] <aiena> But it does PHP reasonably well[05:57:41] * sfisque nods[05:57:51] <aiena> I am pretty pleased with it[05:58:39] <aiena> plus there are things like https://github.com/allebb/netbeans-psr-formatting which enhance the experience[05:58:39] <javabot> aiena's title: "GitHub - allebb/netbeans-psr-formatting: NetBeans configuration settings for PSR 1&2"[05:58:53] <aiena> o/ javabot your quick[05:59:36] <aiena> guess it must be getting the title without parsing the rest of the page[05:59:49] <sfisque> pretty much. just a simple bot[05:59:54] <aiena> yeah[06:00:14] <aiena> but it can interrupt conversation[06:00:39] <aiena> yeah but that config makes formatting a nice breeze in netbeans thank heavens that guy made it :)[06:00:43] <aiena> the joy of OSS[06:00:43] <sfisque> irc has it's risks and dangers :P[06:01:03] <aiena> yeah atleast the javabot lets you know what your clicking[06:01:04] <sfisque> yub[06:01:16] <aiena> I usually click only if iI know its a pastebin[06:01:27] <aiena> or its github etc.[06:01:39] <sfisque> aye[06:02:08] <aiena> but this channel is logged so I think you can ban users anytime[06:02:10] <aiena> so no biggy[06:02:28] <aiena> encourages caution[06:02:36] * sfisque nods[06:03:17] <aiena> accountability courtesy of javabot[06:09:50] <aiena> probably Java will always get highest priority in netbeans[06:10:20] <sfisque> that is by definition. other than minimal native wrappers for each OS, netbeans is 100% java[06:12:03] <aiena> its like a poster child for Java :D[06:12:31] <aiena> I wish it became a candidate for google to put TLC in though[06:12:44] <aiena> wonder what it be like then[06:12:48] <sfisque> TLC?[06:12:57] <aiena> tender loving care[06:13:05] <aiena> i.e developers into[06:13:10] <sfisque> oh, why google? NB is a sun/oracle product[06:13:25] <aiena> that way AndroidStudio is JetBrains[06:13:29] <aiena> so why not[06:13:43] <aiena> why did it put TLC into eclipse[06:13:47] <aiena> for a while[06:14:02] <aiena> eclipse isnt googles right[06:14:04] <sfisque> i have no idea. eclipse gives me heartburn[06:14:20] <aiena> aye netbeans is light I dont like the beast eclipse is[06:14:28] <sfisque> i believe ecilpse started as an ibm flagship[06:14:46] <aiena> there is a point where the ide interferes with work and gets too bloated[06:14:55] <sfisque> which would make sense given eclipse's counter intuitive layout[06:15:03] <sfisque> ibm == counter intuitive[06:15:03] <sfisque> :P[06:15:05] <aiena> so features are not necessarily a good thing if it adds too much resource hog etc.[06:15:18] <aiena> lag and what not[06:15:19] <sfisque> the emacs model of software development[06:15:36] <sfisque> every product bloats until it includes email[06:16:12] <aiena> aye[06:16:19] <aiena> the desire for developers to develop[06:16:27] <aiena> and the desire of users to keep things light[06:16:30] * sfisque nods[06:16:34] <aiena> always a tussle[06:16:48] <sfisque> the wisdom of age is to know "when is when" and know when to walk away[06:18:29] <aiena> actually its up to the user to decide[06:18:41] <aiena> I feel netbeans 8.2 is more snappier then older versions[06:18:54] <aiena> but plugins are the naughty fellas[06:19:35] <sfisque> aye. some of my faves have fallen by the wayside (javacc, prolog, etc.)[06:33:01] *** Lengsdorfer <Lengsdorfer!~Lengsdorf@unaffiliated/lengsdorfer> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:04:10] *** bof22 <bof22!~Thunderbi@185.13.183.107> has joined #netbeans[07:23:35] *** expl015s_ <expl015s_!admin@bitcoinshell.mooo.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:24:46] *** Lengsdorfer <Lengsdorfer!~Lengsdorf@unaffiliated/lengsdorfer> has joined #netbeans[07:34:58] <aiena> sfisque, I would wish that PSR coding standards become a native firt class citizen of netbeans[07:35:04] <aiena> first[07:35:20] <aiena> i.e be available as an option in the settings[07:55:29] <sfisque> if you goto netbeans.org you can suggest bug fixes/ enhancements. also, since NB is open source you can always checkout source and offer patches[08:06:01] <aiena> sfisque, speaking of hidden features is there a quick way to select all text within quotes ?[08:06:15] <aiena> I love the lowercase feature of NB[08:09:29] <aiena> in the code editor[08:30:16] *** bof22 <bof22!~Thunderbi@185.13.183.107> has quit IRC (Quit: bof22)[08:30:36] *** bof22 <bof22!~Thunderbi@185.13.183.107> has joined #netbeans[09:34:45] *** Lengsdorfer <Lengsdorfer!~Lengsdorf@unaffiliated/lengsdorfer> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:36:46] *** adamru <adamru!~adamru@staticline56113.toya.net.pl> has joined #netbeans[09:57:58] *** prxq_ <prxq_!~quassel@x4db08414.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:17:13] *** aiena <aiena!~aiena@unaffiliated/aiena> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:46:30] *** bof22 <bof22!~Thunderbi@185.13.183.107> has quit IRC (Quit: bof22)[13:19:01] *** millerti <millerti!~millerti@cpe-66-24-91-119.stny.res.rr.com> has joined #netbeans[13:31:10] *** madsj <madsj!~mads@82.196.13.198> has joined #netbeans[15:09:36] *** Trylam_ <Trylam_!~estelle@62.147.242.8> has joined #netbeans[15:11:42] *** adamru <adamru!~adamru@staticline56113.toya.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:15:00] <Trylam_> hello, i'm student and i start with javafx. Our teacher give us some codes, it compile in command line but when i try to execute it on netbeans i have the following message :[15:15:08] <Trylam_> Executing /home/user/Documents/JavaFXApplication1/dist/run1396247363/JavaFXApplication1.jar using platform /usr/lib/jvm/java-8-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java[15:15:14] <Trylam_> ** (java:10501): WARNING **: (bridge.c:998):atk_bridge_adaptor_init: runtime check failed: (root)[15:25:31] *** bbankes <bbankes!~bbankes@162.218.222.150> has joined #netbeans[17:01:39] *** jost_ <jost_!~jost@p2E5017FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #netbeans[17:03:21] *** jost_ <jost_!~jost@p2E5017FB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:05:52] *** jost__ <jost__!~jost@p508BE481.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 268 seconds)[17:26:31] *** mr_lou <mr_lou!~sirlou@77.214.59.112> has joined #netbeans[17:42:42] *** darvon <darvon!~darvon@107.191.100.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:50:31] *** darvon <darvon!~darvon@107.191.100.185> has joined #netbeans[18:16:07] *** wildlander <wildlander!~wildlande@unaffiliated/wildlander> has joined #netbeans[18:16:07] *** wildlander <wildlander!~wildlande@unaffiliated/wildlander> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[18:17:46] *** wildlander <wildlander!~wildlande@unaffiliated/wildlander> has joined #netbeans[18:17:46] *** wildlander <wildlander!~wildlande@unaffiliated/wildlander> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[18:19:16] *** wildlander <wildlander!~wildlande@unaffiliated/wildlander> has joined #netbeans[19:18:48] *** Lengsdorfer <Lengsdorfer!~Lengsdorf@unaffiliated/lengsdorfer> has joined #netbeans[19:36:56] *** bof22 <bof22!~Thunderbi@ARennes-650-1-8-74.w90-32.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #netbeans[19:50:44] *** bof22 <bof22!~Thunderbi@ARennes-650-1-8-74.w90-32.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: bof22)[20:59:27] *** darvon <darvon!~darvon@107.191.100.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:00:42] *** darvon <darvon!~darvon@107.191.100.185> has joined #netbeans[21:24:26] *** mr_lou <mr_lou!~sirlou@77.214.59.112> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat)[21:51:13] *** darvon <darvon!~darvon@107.191.100.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:52:29] *** darvon <darvon!~darvon@107.191.100.185> has joined #netbeans[23:02:40] *** IamTrying <IamTrying!~IamTrying@18.224-136-217.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be> has joined #netbeans[23:03:29] <IamTrying> Guys, What the fuck? NetBeans 8.2 is too much buggy then NetBEans 8.1 already fucking 10 times my editor got frozen, i have exit NB and restart it. It was not happening like this in Verison 8.1[23:23:49] *** prxq <prxq!~quassel@x4db08414.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #netbeans[23:41:22] *** ehsavoie <ehsavoie!~ehsavoie@redhat/jboss/ehsavoie> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:50:42] <sfisque> what plugins are you using? NB 8.2 runs like a champ for me, staying up days at a time with multiple projects open[23:54:30] <netbeans-slack> <chrizzly> IamTrying, please be a bit more specific about your enviroment. I hope that you can see it by yourself that your response is not helpful. Give us details information about how many projects do you have, which types, maybe how big they are, what happens etc.[23:54:42] *** Fenhl <Fenhl!sid30770@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vhkvitwbczjbivxp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:56:51] <IamTrying> netbeans-slack, sfisque: i am on OSX 10.11.6 (15G1217), i was using NB 8.1 for several months it was very stable except some minor issues. Thought it will be fixed so, i moved to NB 8.2 now. But in NB 8.2 i am feeling lot of slowness, sometimes cursor/editing stop working. on that case i need to stop NB and restart everything. I am working with Objective-C, C++, Qt5, Javascript, NodeJS libraries.