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[00:00:47] <nicklas_> what is that? a browser?
[00:00:50] <nicklas_> i run chrome
[00:01:50] <nicklas_> btw, has any of you guys also had the problem with plank giving a line cross the screen? i read that you could disable docked windows shadows in xfwm settings
[00:01:59] <nicklas_> but i installed compiz-manjaro instead
[00:02:22] <nicklas_> is there any way to get rid of the line wihtout disabling the shadow?
[00:02:31] <nicklas_> cause its nice to have the shadow
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[00:47:57] <clank_> hello all, has anyone noticed an issue with menu bars on the latest manajro xfce4
[00:48:17] <clank_> the menu bar text is not showing up on programs like vscode or typora
[00:49:15] <clank_> tho i can see the buttons are there cuase while hovering the mouse the highlight effect appears on them
[00:49:31] <ringo> oly those ?
[00:50:46] <clank_> so far yeah
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[00:51:08] <clank_> on both, its the exact same thing
[00:55:59] <clank_> https://i.imgur.com/ipLBol5.png
[00:57:49] <ringo> menu bar of those program ?
[00:58:24] <clank_> yea the top bar
[00:58:40] <clank_> it seems empty, but its not
[00:58:51] <ringo> https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/62593 like this
[00:59:31] <ringo> try selecec adwaita gtk themes
[00:59:38] <ringo> look if that change
[01:00:27] <ringo> in xfce4-settings appereance
[01:00:48] <ringo> something like that, manjaro themes are kinda hacks from orginal, so i dont know,
[01:01:01] <ringo> adwaita should be a good baseline to see if the program work correctly
[01:01:26] <clank_> yep
[01:01:31] <clank_> that fixes it
[01:01:35] <clank_> now it works on both
[01:01:52] <clank_> dawm, i like the og theme
[01:02:52] <ringo> mayby try replace gtk3 by gtk3-mushrooms
[01:03:05] <ringo> mayby will that improve on that stuf
[01:03:24] <ringo> but manjaro team hacked adapte theme i guess, adapta is kinda slugish
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[01:04:07] <ringo> has also partly todo on gtk3
[01:04:30] <ringo> mayby with gtk3-mushrooms do manjaro theme work
[01:05:58] <clank_> ok ill give mushrooms a try
[01:06:09] <clank_> also the manjaro nokto themes also work
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[01:08:01] <ringo> clank_: yeah 80% of all produced themes generaly are Hacked themes so this behaviour happend, gnome devs general hates hacked themes because bahaviour of looking can be weird sometimes because gtk3 moves faster then the gtk theme hackers
[01:08:02] <clank_> its laready installed
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[01:08:22] <ringo> there are mayby 3 a 4 themes generaly thats always up2date
[01:08:41] <ringo> clank_: normaly it should experience gtk3 bette ron xfce
[01:09:10] <ringo> but 4 themes is mainline also fast uptodate, is like vertex arc adapta adwaita
[01:09:32] <ringo> i choose my self adwaita-dark
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[01:11:48] <clank_> ok i see, adwaita-dark is nice but has too much contrast for me, i guess i will choose some other theme
[01:12:02] <clank_> can i find the manjaro theme code somewhere? to mess with it
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[01:13:06] <ringo> you can always look intoo /usr/share/themes and copy to your own made ~/.themes map
[01:13:16] <ringo> renameit or something
[01:13:32] <ringo> or use forum to notice that bug
[01:13:41] <ringo> because its a theme bug
[01:14:11] <clank_> i will try to see if i can fix it, else ill post the bug on the forums
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[01:16:59] <ringo> but wellnight need to sleep
[01:18:24] <clank_> ok thx for the help
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[01:21:59] <xulin> o/
[01:25:09] <xulin> it's friday my dudes!
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[01:27:37] <nicklas_> :-D
[01:30:42] <clank_> hmm where should i report manjaro bugs on the forum
[01:34:07] <nicklas_> hm, no idea
[01:34:21] <nicklas_> isnt there any bugzilla?
[01:37:06] <clank_> think ill just report it on the manjaro-development
[01:39:52] <nicklas_> hm ok
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[01:45:21] <clank_> well i found this better https://bugs.manjaro.org, also theres the gitlab issues but dont think the last is a good way
[01:47:47] <nicklas_> ah, there is a bugzilla
[01:47:50] <nicklas_> there you go
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[01:50:30] <Astate> is it easy to add /home ?
[01:51:16] <nicklas_> clank_: how can you see other bugs?
[01:51:23] <nicklas_> so you can help with ohter bugs?
[01:51:35] <nicklas_> Astate: how do you mean?
[01:52:01] <clank_> nicklas_: i guess only from the gitlab or the forums
[01:52:19] <clank_> this bug site only reports directly to the devs
[01:52:37] <clank_> thats why its not the best, but ill work with what i have
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[01:53:02] <nicklas_> the idea of a bugzilla is to add bugs so people can help
[01:53:18] <Astate> nicklas_: i have only one / partition and i want add /home partition
[01:53:20] <nicklas_> gentoo bugzilla is excellent
[01:53:24] <nicklas_> and sabayon bugzilla
[01:53:28] <clank_> i guess this is more of a helpdesk
[01:53:47] <nicklas_> Astate: easier to partition /home separately from the start
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[01:53:55] <clank_> Astate: are you in the manjaro installer ?
[01:54:03] <nicklas_> i am not so sure you can move it safely afterwards
[01:54:26] <nicklas_> Astate: you always have a /home
[01:54:47] <nicklas_> its /home/yourusername
[01:55:05] <nicklas_> the / is root
[01:55:46] <Astate> i cant find doc about it
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[01:56:16] <nicklas_> have you already installed manjaro?
[01:56:19] <nicklas_> Astate: ?
[01:56:22] <Astate> nicklas_: yes
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[01:56:36] <nicklas_> Astate: where do you want your /home partition?
[01:56:50] <nicklas_> do you have more than one disks?
[01:56:52] <Astate> but i dont enought space now in /
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[01:57:11] <nicklas_> Astate: how many disks do you have?
[01:57:15] <Astate> i want to move /home on other hd
[01:57:23] <nicklas_> Astate: do you only have manjaro installed?
[01:57:28] <nicklas_> i see
[01:57:40] <Astate> yes i have manjaro
[01:57:49] <nicklas_> that is what i meant, i dont think that can be done safely, especially if you are unexperienced
[01:58:05] <nicklas_> if anyone in here knows otherwise, please help the guy
[01:58:05] <malkauns> is there a touchpad configuration utility for Manjaro?
[01:58:18] <nicklas_> depends on de
[01:58:29] <nicklas_> or how do you mean touchpad?
[01:58:45] <nicklas_> the touchpad on your laptop?
[01:58:50] <malkauns> nicklas_: huh? touchpad is a touchpad
[01:58:53] <malkauns> yep for laptop
[01:59:00] <nicklas_> Astate: is it a fresh install?
[01:59:02] <Astate> nicklas_: the way is see it, is to create new user
[01:59:18] <Astate> nicklas_: old install
[01:59:23] <nicklas_> Astate: if you have data or configs you need to keep, save them on a usb or something
[01:59:47] <nicklas_> Astate: format and reinstall, put your /home on the separate disk
[01:59:55] <Astate> nicklas_: i dont want to reinstall it :P
[01:59:56] <nicklas_> Astate: creating a new user wont help
[02:00:16] <nicklas_> if you dont want to reinstall, you have to move your home partition
[02:00:42] <cimjaro> all manjaro bugs are reported to their gitlab account
[02:00:45] <nicklas_> malkauns: gnome, kde and xfce has configuration tools for the touchpad yes
[02:00:58] <malkauns> nicklas_: Manjaro Deepin here
[02:01:23] <nicklas_> well, havent used deepin. but it should have a config tool for the touchpad
[02:01:24] <Astate> i want to try to move /home on other partition, i think its possible
[02:01:31] <nicklas_> just look in settings
[02:01:43] <clank_> Astate: create a new ext4 partition, get its uuid and change it on your fstab
[02:01:57] <Astate> partition on other hd :P
[02:02:08] <clank_> and move your files there of course
[02:02:12] <nicklas_> Astate: it might not be as simple to just use gparted and create a partition, and move
[02:02:14] <clank_> yeah that doesnt matter
[02:02:30] <clank_> '/dev/sdb1
[02:02:41] <nicklas_> clank_: but will that make the system use the new partition as /home?
[02:02:59] <clank_> it needs to just change the mount point
[02:03:36] <nicklas_> malkauns: look in settings
[02:03:36] <nicklas_> malkauns: should be there
[02:03:43] <clank_> '/etc/fstab has the uuid and the mountpoint path
[02:03:45] <Astate> clank_: i think its a good way to do it wtih fstab
[02:03:50] <malkauns> nicklas_: definitely not there
[02:04:19] <nicklas_> malkauns: then i have no idea
[02:04:41] <clank_> arch has a guide on it, thats why its helpful to have used arch at some point :D
[02:05:17] <clank_> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fstab
[02:06:08] <clank_> all you have to is get the uuid and change the it
[02:06:13] <clank_> do*
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[02:06:54] <nicklas_> malkauns: have you googled it?
[02:07:07] <malkauns> nicklas_: yep, nothing
[02:07:09] <malkauns> :(
[02:07:24] <nicklas_> doesnt seem to be any configuration options in settings for deepin
[02:07:39] <nicklas_> but have never used deepin
[02:07:41] <malkauns> only references to dconf but there's nothing in dconf that controls the right click area of the touchpad
[02:07:44] <Astate> clank_: That's what I thought
[02:07:46] <Astate> but I have not seen anything on the net about it
[02:08:08] <malkauns> which is what i want to configure
[02:08:16] <malkauns> or disable rather
[02:08:34] <clank_> Astate: read the arch wiki and the first google result https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-move-var-directory-to-another-partition
[02:08:49] <nicklas_> malkauns: have you looked at this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN4Zy52YFtI
[02:09:01] <nicklas_> maybe there is some option in that tool that could help
[02:09:15] <Astate> clank_: logic and easy :)
[02:09:27] <nicklas_> malkauns: sorry, that was dconf-editor
[02:09:32] <nicklas_> which oyu mentioned
[02:09:53] <Astate> linux is too easy
[02:10:15] <clank_> also backup your data, if stuff goes wrong
[02:10:20] <nicklas_> malkauns: or maybe, dconf-editor should contain all available options
[02:10:29] <clank_> easier than windows ;)
[02:11:00] <nicklas_> malkauns: what is it that you want to do exactly?
[02:11:19] <Astate> z/os are more easy than Windows
[02:11:30] <Astate> linux are more easy than z/os
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[02:22:03] <malkauns> nicklas_: well when i accidentally click the lower right portion of my touchpad i intend a left click but its set to perform a right click. i want to disable that conversion
[02:22:53] <nicklas_> i dont think you can disable right click
[02:23:18] <malkauns> nicklas_: for me right click is two finger tap/click
[02:23:21] <nicklas_> i think you ucan only change if it clicks when you tap or not, and how you can scroll
[02:23:27] <nicklas_> yeah
[02:23:38] <nicklas_> dont think you can disable that
[02:23:46] <malkauns> nicklas_: with synaptics u can disable the right click area
[02:23:52] <nicklas_> you can disable click when tapping
[02:23:57] <malkauns> nicklas_: not sure how to do that with libinput
[02:24:03] <nicklas_> oh
[02:24:20] <nicklas_> me neither
[02:24:36] <nicklas_> i seldom use my touchpad
[02:24:57] <nicklas_> i mostly sit with my gaming laptop at the kitchen table with a mouse
[02:25:09] <malkauns> ok
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[02:25:29] <nicklas_> kde has very good touchpad configuration
[02:25:34] <nicklas_> im using fxce now
[02:25:42] <nicklas_> gnome i havent used since 2.8
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[02:43:50] <nicklas_> did you say you report bugs on manjaro gitlab?
[02:45:16] <nicklas_> why isnt manjaro helpdesk and gitlab linked from the manjaro main site? it should
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[02:54:24] <cimjaro> nicklas_: yes
[02:54:33] <cimjaro> they post it a lot in the forums
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[05:11:03] <cimjaro> has anyone here used linux on a surface pro
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[05:42:02] <Nefertiti> do you have a particular question about it or are you just pondering?
[05:43:26] <malkauns> cimjaro: youtube is your friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0bIYOf3_rY
[05:43:40] <cimjaro> Nefertiti: pondering
[05:43:44] <cimjaro> i did google around malkauns
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[05:45:59] <Nefertiti> ok, you can get manjaro working on a SP3 pro nicely
[05:46:06] <Nefertiti> ;)
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[05:49:35] <Nefertiti> if you going to be cpu intensive, it can get quite warm though
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[05:56:00] <cimjaro> just wondering if anyone here has it and could tell me his/her experience
[05:56:26] <Nefertiti> I just did =)
[05:57:11] <Nefertiti> everything works on it when using jaro out of the box
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[06:02:34] <cimjaro> nice
[06:02:36] <cimjaro> what de?
[06:02:40] <cimjaro> and how's the battery life
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[06:07:22] <Nefertiti> xfce. battery last quite awhile if you don't have TLP in a constant 'performance' state (around 4-8 hours) turning down screen brightness will save you the most, heat will be your enemy: encoding video as a test I saw it reach around 92-94 degrees , I ran it like that for 45 minutes, had the surface 3 pro since it came out so it can last if looked after
[06:07:29] <Nefertiti> hope that help.
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[06:17:07] <cimjaro> Nefertiti: degrees as in farenheit?
[06:17:30] <cimjaro> cause if it was celcius, that's boiling point
[06:17:47] <Nefertiti> ja
[06:17:52] <Nefertiti> =)
[06:17:57] <cimjaro> i wouldn't have TLP in performance mode
[06:18:06] <cimjaro> waht's the default in TLP anyways
[06:18:12] <cimjaro> power saving right?
[06:18:16] <Nefertiti> ja
[06:19:14] <cimjaro> i do web dev so i won't be doing anything heavy
[06:20:12] <cimjaro> thanks Nefertiti
[06:20:12] <Nefertiti> should fit the job then
[06:20:23] <cimjaro> brigado
[06:20:35] <Nefertiti> you're most welcome =D
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[06:22:19] <cimjaro> ringo: i finally got GoAccess to work by piping it from ssh to local https://i.imgur.com/HQLZI0b.png
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[06:46:20] <malkauns> cimjaro: dayem, almost looks like something from a movie :P
[06:46:53] <cimjaro> malkauns: i'm in the matrix
[06:47:00] <malkauns> lol
[06:47:38] <malkauns> is that what u look like near the top right? lol
[06:48:12] <cimjaro> yes
[06:48:15] <cimjaro> lol
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[06:48:34] <malkauns> haha
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[08:46:57] <ringo> cimjaro: nice
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