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[00:04:37] <eNTi_> NovaCygni: i've tried those command line options... in all 4 variations and no change :(
[00:05:50] <eNTi_> but the game created a directory called "??:!^?". wtf?
[00:07:32] <PMunch> Hmm, that doesn't sound good
[00:10:32] <PMunch> Hmm, I've got a USB that shows up in dmesg and lsusb but not in fdisk..
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[01:10:07] <manjaroDeepin> hii
[01:10:19] <manjaroDeepin> wasssup
[01:10:25] <manjaroDeepin> manjaro rocks
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[01:10:48] <manjaroDeepin> ********************** why
[01:10:53] <manjaroDeepin> u quit
[01:11:07] <manjaroDeepin> just f****
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[01:14:09] <bugz_asusrog> hmmmm
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[02:03:59] <NovaCygni> an__ sort your connection out.....
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[02:23:46] <NovaCygni> bugz_asusrog, hush....
[02:24:01] <NovaCygni> The night is dark and full of terrors...
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[02:45:08] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
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[03:13:50] <void9> So if I downloaded manjaro xfce-rc2, am I hooked to the 'testing' repo, or whatever it's called, or the normal one ? how can i check/switch?
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[03:22:01] <bugz_asusrog> void9, With pacman-mirrors I suspose :/
[03:23:08] <void9> so I am on stable.. ok
[03:23:46] <void9> which is interesting. i thought the development iso's default to 'testing'
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[03:28:08] <noob-dev> hi guys im having problem opening steam
[03:28:09] <CountryfiedLinux> I don't know void9 that stuff is confusing to me too. I'm not sure if those are meant to be installed for long before installing something else. If that's not the case then the developers are unclear on what to do weeks down the road when you want to upgrade or revert back.
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[03:31:13] <bugz_asusrog> void9, it's a release candidate 2
[03:31:58] <negen> you have a rog laptop bugz?
[03:32:08] <negen> whats up Countryfiedwindows
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[03:33:10] <bugz_asusrog> negen, nope
[03:33:18] <bugz_asusrog> PCMASTERRACE
[03:33:38] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy negen using my new laptop I bought yesterday. One of the first things I did was took out the 1 TB HDD and put in the 120 GB SSD. Much faster now. What you up to negen ?
[03:33:43] <CountryfiedLinux> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Home (x64) • CPU: AMD A10-8700P Radeon R6, 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G (1.80GHz) • Memory: 7.4 GiB Total (4.8 GiB Free) • Storage: 36.1 GiB / 118.7 GiB (82.6 GiB Free) • VGA: AMD Radeon R6 • Uptime: 23h 24m 57s
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[03:34:21] <CountryfiedLinux> With an SSD this thing is quicker than a hiccup.
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[03:35:01] <CountryfiedLinux> Oh and this thing has touch screen!
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[03:38:19] <bugz_asusrog> give it 3 months :-p
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[03:38:53] <CountryfiedLinux> bugz_asusrog, Give what 3 months?
[03:39:15] <bugz_asusrog> Your laptop, to start slowing down :-p
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[03:39:33] <negen> is it a nvme ssd CountryWindoz
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[03:39:51] <negen> whats up CountryfiedWindoze
[03:40:26] <negen> touch screens in laptops are for gay pig ridding hill billies
[03:40:42] <Stuzz> And charlatans, it seems
[03:40:44] <CountryfiedLinux> bugz_asusrog, Why would it slow down?
[03:40:54] <CountryfiedLinux> negen, It's a Kingston.
[03:41:06] <CountryfiedLinux> I don't understand WHY computers come with HDDs anymore.
[03:41:09] <bugz_asusrog> I know :) SSD and Windows 10 here :-p
[03:41:23] <bugz_asusrog> SSD ======= Diamond Ring
[03:41:23] <CountryfiedLinux> One of the reasons I bought a Dell. Easy to remove the HDD and install my own SSD.
[03:41:31] <negen> found a picture of CountryfiedLinux when he was just a baby http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7786/2646/1600/pig1.jpg
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[03:47:55] <CountryfiedLinux> negen, :|
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[03:48:20] <negen> cost
[03:48:24] <negen> they care much cheaper
[03:48:35] <negen> I put a nvme ssd in my laptop first thing
[03:48:53] <negen> i installed the education edition of win10 since it is the only win10 that is functional
[03:49:07] <negen> I also installed the classic menu
[03:49:11] <void9> negen: did you try windows 10 LTSB?
[03:49:20] <negen> what is ltsb ?
[03:49:25] <void9> long term support base
[03:49:34] <void9> windows 10 without edge, cortana, mandatory updates etc
[03:49:36] <negen> I never heard of that
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[03:49:52] <negen> yes i uninstalled edge and cortana
[03:49:57] <CountryfiedLinux> I like Edge for the most part. Lacks a few extensions though.
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[03:50:00] <negen> and disabled the updates
[03:50:13] <CountryfiedLinux> But extensions are coming and coming.
[03:50:15] <void9> there's also ltsb N, without the media player
[03:50:23] <void9> yes, edge is actually not that bad
[03:50:34] <negen> I never heard of those and do not know where one would get them
[03:50:40] <void9> they had 10 years to learn from mozilla and chrome :d
[03:50:46] <negen> they are not in my msdn account or technet account
[03:50:57] <CountryfiedLinux> It's the fastest lightest and most energy efficient browser right now.
[03:50:57] <negen> mozilla fucked it all up
[03:51:02] <negen> and chrome is not much better
[03:51:05] <void9> https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/17096032/Windows_10_Enterprise_N_2016_LTSB_X64_en-US_Feb_2017-v2__Gen2_
[03:51:11] <void9> they are in your piratebay account :d
[03:51:15] <negen> firfox a few years ago was good
[03:51:32] <CountryfiedLinux> I like the classic theme restorer for Firefox.
[03:51:36] <negen> why are you posting links to illegal software here ?
[03:51:54] <void9> just to read about it, don't download :)
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[03:52:13] <negen> and anyone who lives in a first world country knows better than to use tpb
[03:52:28] <CountryfiedLinux> I'll stick with what's officially supported. Something like that will probably break during updates.
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[03:52:49] <void9> CountryfiedLinux: it's an official windows release
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[03:53:02] <void9> it does updates just fine. it's the only windows 10 i ever used
[03:53:24] <negen> the education edition is nice since it is based off of enterprise
[03:54:48] <CountryfiedLinux> void9, Oh ok. Haven't heard of it before. Home edition is fine with me.
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[03:56:29] <negen> CountryfiedLinux, is not a poweruser and does not care about his data being monitored
[03:56:39] <negen> I only use win10 on my laptop due to school
[03:56:53] <negen> other than that it offers no features that are useful to me
[03:57:13] <negen> windows is nice for games and that is about it
[03:57:26] <negen> one of these days I will setup a KVM and to run some games I think
[03:57:59] <void9> I always wanted to do that. I wonder if it works with virtualbox
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[03:59:06] <negen> kvm and virtual box is not the same
[03:59:11] * bugz_asusrog is a poweruser and doesn't mind his data being monitored
[03:59:12] <CountryfiedLinux> Windows also has really good driver and driver software support.
[03:59:18] * bugz_asusrog agrees to privacy policy
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[03:59:32] <negen> but you can due what is called hardware pass through with virtual box but it is hit or miss on if it works proper
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[04:00:04] <negen> CountryfiedLinux, I do not agree with that
[04:00:41] <negen> just take a look at the ath10 wifi chips in windows vs linux
[04:00:51] <negen> or nvidia in linux vs windows
[04:01:04] <negen> i guess ati gets better windows drivers
[04:01:21] <negen> but after that I cannot think of anything that has better drivers
[04:01:44] <negen> maybe some shitty non usefull things like the led lights on my 980ti
[04:02:01] <negen> but I could get them to turn on with a ras pi
[04:02:22] <CountryfiedLinux> negen, I was thinking sound and graphics driver support.
[04:02:43] <negen> sound ?
[04:02:54] <negen> that makes little to no sense
[04:03:10] <negen> most those pci sound cards are a useless thing
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[04:03:26] <negen> audio in linux is just fine
[04:03:40] <CountryfiedLinux> negen, On Dell laptops specifically. Maybe it's software settings related. The sound quality seems to sound better in Windows on newer Dell laptops.
[04:03:42] <negen> most people who want high quality audio will just get a decent DAC
[04:04:19] <CountryfiedLinux> Audio quality ain't that big of a deal to me. Except for audio recording and sound levels that is.
[04:04:23] <negen> well that could be dell has shit hardware unless your buying their top tier stuff
[04:04:50] <CountryfiedLinux> I paid $499 for this laptop. So far seems like a good deal.
[04:04:59] <CountryfiedLinux> After replacing the HDD with my SSD of course.
[04:05:06] <CountryfiedLinux> So much faster with the SSD.
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[04:05:41] <negen>    Card-3 C-Media driver: USB Audio
[04:05:41] <negen>            Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.9.11-1-ARCH
[04:06:44] <negen> CountryfiedLinux, when he was a baby http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7786/2646/1600/pig1.jpg
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[04:06:57] <CountryfiedLinux> :|
[04:08:04] <void9> i cannot decide if that's funny or offensive :)
[04:08:06] <void9> or both
[04:08:52] <negen> name: <alsa_output.usb-Schiit_Audio_Schiit_Modi_Uber-00.iec958-stereo.monitor>
[04:09:05] <negen> that is the audio device that I use
[04:09:16] <negen> Schiit Audio Modi Uber
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[04:10:08] <CountryfiedLinux> Dell PCs seem to be pretty reliable.
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[04:10:36] <CountryfiedLinux> There's old Latitudes out there that still run like new. I see them all the time.
[04:10:53] <CountryfiedLinux> Those are business class laptops though.
[04:12:04] <negen> like i said there professional stuff is is ok
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[04:12:25] <negen> but their cheap stuff flexes too much for me and their batteries are questionable to me
[04:12:53] <negen> My laptop was about a grand more than that though CountryfiedLinux
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[04:13:17] <negen> it is hard to find laptops with out optimus these days
[04:13:32] <CountryfiedLinux> optimus?
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[04:14:01] <Stuzz> I've an old Latitude, but it's seems its HDD has died :(
[04:14:34] <Stuzz> But, as mentioned, it's impressive how easy they make it to replace
[04:15:48] <CountryfiedLinux> Yeah Dell laptops tend to be easy to access the disks and ram sticks.
[04:16:31] <Stuzz> Also the CD drive
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[04:16:40] <Stuzz> Coupla screw, and it just slides right out
[04:17:18] <CountryfiedLinux> Stuzz, Yeah for dual-disks. On the Latitudes that is. Not sure if it's as fast from there though but would definitely great for an alternate SSD for video purposes.
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[04:17:51] <Stuzz> mhmm
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[04:21:06] <negen> CountryfiedLinux, most laptops that have a nvidia gpu will also use the intel gpu when not gaming or something like that to save power
[04:21:33] <negen> the 1060 laptop I have has optimus disabled through hardware
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[04:22:58] <CountryfiedLinux> negen, Oh dual graphics.
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[04:24:45] <CountryfiedLinux> My laptop has a touchscreen but doesn't fold back as a tablet. So it's not a 1, it's not a 2 in 1, so it's a 1.5?
[04:25:04] <negen> not really dual graphics in the classic sense
[04:25:30] <CountryfiedLinux> negen, More like the Nvidia kicks on when it has to?
[04:26:04] <negen> but since all cpu's have built in gpu's these days it uses the dedicated gpu and the cpu gpu but not together one for high graphics power and one for battery life
[04:26:10] <negen> yeah CountryfiedLinux
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[04:26:32] <negen> amd is doing the same thing now that they finally started making good graphics cards again
[04:26:51] <negen> the only one i seen was a dell with the new RX gpu
[04:26:57] <CountryfiedLinux> Gotta say the Dell Inspiron 5000 series is impressive. Very solid casing, touch screen, backlit keyboard, plenty of power...
[04:27:41] <negen> ips backlights ?
[04:27:51] <negen> or ips led screen i mean
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[04:28:03] <negen> I am not sure how i like ips or not
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[04:28:25] <negen> looks great on phones and stuff but not sure what i think of it on monitors or laptops
[04:28:36] <manots> ayy
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[04:30:17] <CountryfiedLinux> negen, A light underneath the keys.
[04:30:30] <CountryfiedLinux> negen, oh misread that
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[04:30:44] <CountryfiedLinux> Touch screen like my finger is a cursor.
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[04:32:48] <CountryfiedLinux> I use touch screen when it's convenient like clicking launcher icons or the menu, closing windows, youtube video controls...
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[04:34:54] <negen> me touches CountryfiedLinux screen
[04:35:02] * negen touches CountryfiedLinux screen
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[04:49:07] <Celmor> can someone recommend a clipboard manager that doesn't keep a history?
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[04:49:24] <Celmor> and doesn't require a specific DE
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[04:52:35] <b0n> ..the xfce clipboard keeps history?
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[04:53:07] <b0n> huh, it does. thats weird.
[04:54:03] <blindcantt> I tried installing Manjaro Net edition, and when creating a luks encrypted partition my passwords never match.  But when I do this in the gui version of Manjaro Gnome edition it works fine.  Any ideas?
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[04:57:58] <Celmor> maybe locale issues?
[04:58:22] <Celmor> can you create a luks parition without using the installer in the same booted livecd just on the terminal?
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[04:59:17] <blindcantt> I thought it might have been keyboard issues as I was using a USB keyboard in the laptop, but using both keyboards separately on differen reboots I get the same issue.  I haven't tried creating it manually in terminal nor have I looked into locale, I'll check out the local bit first.
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[05:11:17] <negen> Celmor, i use this in my openbox setup
[05:11:18] <negen> #copy on highlight
[05:11:18] <negen> autocutsel -fork &
[05:11:18] <negen> autocutsel -selection PRIMARY -fork &
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[05:12:16] <Celmor> I don't want cut and primary buffer synced though
[05:12:22] <Celmor> like having them separate
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[05:16:07] <negen> did you test clipster ?
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[05:17:55] <Celmor> hmm, it says "It uses selection events, rather than polling" on their github page
[05:18:14] <Celmor> a clipboard manager has on their github page "Unfortunately there's no interface to subscribe for changes in X11, so we must poll."
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[05:19:36] <negen> thats oddness
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[05:19:42] <manjaro-web|8855> Hello!
[05:19:54] <manjaro-web|8855> Ever since I updated my system, Libreoffice Writer keeps crashing.
[05:20:03] <Celmor> negen, 2nd quote is from clipmenu
[05:20:15] <manjaro-web|8855> Even though I basically don't lose anything since it saves it, it'd be nice for it to not crash.
[05:20:20] <manjaro-web|8855> It's annoying TBH.
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[05:20:29] <manjaro-web|8855> How should I fix this?
[05:20:37] <manjaro-web|8855> Switch to the newset kernel? That isn't LTS?
[05:20:53] <manjaro-web|8855> I think me as a noob should stick to LTS? But perhaps this situation is exceptional?
[05:20:54] <bugz_asusrog> write your own clipboard manager :-p
[05:21:11] <manjaro-web|8855> By situation I mean Libreoffice Writer crashing from time to time.
[05:21:14] <Celmor> negen, thanks for the suggestion sounds like a good option for i3
[05:21:44] <manjaro-web|8855> I'm working on impt. docs. and I probably can't afford to just let Writer crash on me. I'm also tight on time/schedule.
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[05:22:09] <manjaro-web|8855> Help please?
[05:23:16] <negen> lts stuff in kernels is over rated manjaro-web|8855
[05:23:23] <negen> a standard stable kernel is fine
[05:23:30] <negen> no need for lts
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[05:24:22] <negen> was it a libre office update that started the crashes or something elese ?
[05:24:29] <negen> are the crashes random or what
[05:24:35] <manjaro-web|8855> I'm using the latest LTS coz I was suggested of it by someone here.
[05:24:45] <manjaro-web|8855> The crashes seem to be consistent.
[05:25:19] <manjaro-web|8855> The last update I did probably had Libreoffice in it. I didn't check.
[05:25:41] <negen> when I am in a situation like this I tend to open the program through the cli  which will launch the gui and then wait for it to crash and see the output in the terminal window
[05:25:50] <manjaro-web|8855> Ah
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[05:26:03] <manjaro-web|8855> Ok I'll do that and then show you.
[05:26:25] <negen> It is always nice to have at least two kernels installed at the same time just in case you need to test if the bugs are when uses just one kernel or not
[05:26:49] <manjaro-web|8855> Running 2 kernels at the same time?
[05:26:56] <manjaro-web|8855> I have 2 kernels installed but I'm just running one.
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[05:27:26] <negen> yes only one will run at a time but you can reboot and select the other kernel through the grub menu
[05:27:29] <Celmor> negen, doesn't work with ones that fork...
[05:28:30] <manjaro-web|8855> Celmor: What?
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[05:29:34] <Celmor> answer to one of his previous comments
[05:29:52] <manjaro-web|8855> Oh ok.
[05:29:54] <Celmor> "I tend to open the program through the cli  which will launch the gui and then wait for it to crash"...
[05:30:05] <manjaro-web|8855> Ah.
[05:30:16] <manjaro-web|8855> Still didn't get what you said :D
[05:30:28] <manjaro-web|8855> I mean with the fork thing.
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[05:31:28] <Celmor> you just need to know when starting a program on your terminal that forks, you can continue in the terminal (it immediately returns) and the program continues to run then in background
[05:32:07] <Celmor> and therefore no output on your terminal from that program
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[05:33:09] <bugz_asusrog> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svnAD0TApb8
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[06:32:12] <luuuciano> today the manjaro update had 24 updates, but it is freezing in "Configuring virtualbox", and the details last line is Updating the MIME type database... what should I do?
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[06:47:08] <Strit> luuuciano: How long has it been like that?
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[08:10:53] <sponge> Hello
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[08:11:52] <sponge> Is wayland installed by default with manjaro? I see I have a wayland update, although I believe I'm not using it and never installed it intentionally.
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[08:13:31] <Strit> It is installed yes. It is a dependency of xorg I believe.
[08:14:00] <sponge> Oh, got it!
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[10:26:31] <geek> any clue for how do I fix this > (gedit:18160): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/run/user/1001/dconf/user': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly. ?
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[10:54:05] <PMunch> I'm having a bit of trouble with a USB drive
[10:54:29] <PMunch> It worked fine yesterday, but now when I connect it it shows up in dmesg and lsusb but not in fdisk or my file manager
[10:56:08] <PMunch> It even worked fine on a Windows machine
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[11:24:28] <PMunch> Hmm, I tried with another stick and that didn't work either. After a quick reboot it worked so I think it was something in the update that was completing in the background that caused it.
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[11:44:44] <sponge> Hello
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[11:46:29] <sponge> I'm using manjaro in a dual boot with windows 7. I installed kernel 4.9 to check it, but it seems that the option for choosing windows has disappeared from grub. I now only have "manjaro linux" "advanced options" and "memory test" in grub, when as before I didn't have the "advanced options" but did have "windows 7" as an option
[11:47:53] <sponge> Is there a way to get the "windows 7" option back to grub?
[11:47:58] <Strit_Laptop> sponge: try running "sudo grub-update"?
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[11:49:05] <sponge> sudo: grub-update: command not found
[11:49:11] <sponge> is it grub -update?
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[11:49:54] <Strit_Laptop> no, then it's "sudo update-grub".
[11:50:12] <sponge> Oh, that is doing something
[11:51:20] <Strit_Laptop> Does it mention Windows anywhere?
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[11:53:16] <sponge> Yes, it said Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda2
[11:53:25] <Strit_Laptop> Good. Then it should be there now. :)
[11:53:34] <sponge> Thanks Strit_Laptop!
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[13:52:08] <grail69> howdy all ... just wondering if anyone has found a solution to setting up mouse over focus in Deepin?
[13:52:32] <grail69> the most recent review (17days ago) mentions it was not there by default
[13:52:35] <grail69> has this changed?
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[15:16:55] <monkey> Hi all. Just instaelled manjaro and ran pacman -Syu and its prompted me with this
[15:17:06] <monkey> xorg-server and xf86-input-joystick are in conflict (X-ABI-XINPUT_VERSION). Remove xf86-input-joystick? [y/N]
[15:17:12] <monkey> Should I say yes?
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[15:18:32] <deadguy> yeah
[15:19:10] <NovaCygni> weird mhwd wont let me switch to Mesa drivers anymore :\
[15:20:13] <NovaCygni> :: xf86-video-ati and catalyst-server are in conflict (xorg-server<1.19.0)
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[15:21:05] <vegardff> hey
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[15:23:27] <monkey> Can anyone tell me how i can open the normal terminal with ctrl shift T as opposed to the drop down one?
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[15:24:42] <deadguy> we're gonna need a little more context
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[15:26:01] <deadguy> like what terminal emulator that is
[15:26:05] <monkey> Im using manjaro xfce. When i press ctrl+shift+T the drop down terminal appears
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[15:26:20] <monkey> id rather the xfce4-terminal appear
[15:26:38] <deadguy> xfce4-terminal has a dropdown mode. that's what you're seeing
[15:26:49] <monkey> yeah i know
[15:26:52] <deadguy> go to the apps menu and choose it from there
[15:27:23] <monkey> There is a keyboard shortcut for it, can i remove the --drop-down arguement and have it then load the normal one with the shortcut?
[15:27:32] <deadguy> yeah
[15:27:42] <deadguy> or you could set a new shortcut for it too
[15:28:03] <monkey> I guess i could yeah XD
[15:28:33] <monkey> The problem i have with the dropdown command, is that if i press the shortcut to open another terminal, it wont, unless the drop down terminal is in focus
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[15:29:14] <deadguy> if you're gonna have a bunch of terminals open you might wanna look into tmux
[15:30:10] <monkey> Whys that?
[15:30:35] <deadguy> that way you could have a whole bunch of panes inside a single terminal
[15:30:50] <monkey> the standard xfce terminal has tabs anyway
[15:30:59] <deadguy> yeah, there's also that
[15:32:18] <deadguy> monkey: tmux for you http://imgur.com/a/f9oVa
[15:32:45] <NovaCygni> its all about terminology
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[15:38:44] <monkey> ahaaaaa
[15:38:52] <monkey> A joke. Love it! :P
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[15:52:02] <NovaCygni> ?? No, Terminology is a terminal ;o can be themed
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[16:04:08] <monkey> Hi all. Just installed manjaro. Have done nothing but run pacman -Syu. Then when i try to open steam it just closes after the lisence agreement. If i open it via terminal, i get this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7d6024cd77a99ba80b37d526d42c33f3
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[16:05:29] <geek> I just want to put this g_spawn_command_line_async ("/usr/bin/chromium --profile-directory=Default --app-id=foobar" PLUGIN_WEBSITE, NULL); in dateplugin source to open google agenda instead of a small square with a calendar, too much work :(
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[16:28:24] <kierqueen> hi
[16:28:28] <kierqueen> I opened proxysite.com, but how does youtube know my location? It presents songs in my location?
[16:28:55] <Strit_Laptop> Did your system connect to a VPN?
[16:29:32] <kierqueen> earlier yes, but then no
[16:29:39] <kierqueen> but I used the proxy site
[16:29:57] <NovaCygni> kierqueen, if youtube is logged into your google account is shows your location thats last updated
[16:30:04] <Strit_Laptop> It needs to be connected to a VPN to not know your IP. Proxies are just for "caching of content" i believe.
[16:30:22] <NovaCygni> Youtube uses its own location cache not your location from IP address
[16:30:27] <kierqueen> I don't have a google account, why would anyone search throught their google account on youtube
[16:30:43] <NovaCygni> if your logged into youtube your using a google ID account
[16:30:48] <NovaCygni> Google owns youtube...
[16:30:48] <kierqueen> NovaCygni: so the cache showed my location/
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[16:31:05] <kierqueen> I am never loggined in youtube
[16:31:14] <NovaCygni> kierqueen, the Account your logged into on youtube, has your accounts last location updated,
[16:31:27] <kierqueen> NovaCygni: you do the same through a proxy and you will get the same local results
[16:31:34] <Strit_Laptop> My guess is that the proxy is not setup correctly.
[16:31:39] <NovaCygni> then clear you cache, also learn to use Chrome extensions to hide your real identity, Ie, Fake Headers
[16:31:46] <kierqueen> I never login to youtube,ever
[16:31:59] <Strit_Laptop> kierqueen: what about other google services?
[16:32:04] <Strit_Laptop> Like an android phone.
[16:32:08] <NovaCygni> Strit_Laptop, no they dont grasp how cookies and cached services work
[16:32:23] <kierqueen> gmail? I don't use it on the proxysite, and didn't use it long time
[16:32:28] <NovaCygni> if they cleaned the Youtube cookies and refreshed it would pull a new "Location" information
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[16:32:40] <kierqueen> NovaCygni: yes I don't know how cache works though i did clear it
[16:32:45] <NovaCygni> kierqueen, get "EditThisCookie"
[16:32:57] <kierqueen> I am on firefox not chrome
[16:33:12] <kierqueen> chrome is owned by google and is bad for me I guess
[16:33:17] <NovaCygni> then on youtube click the icon for Extension, and delete all youtube cookies
[16:33:25] <NovaCygni> pffft
[16:33:43] <NovaCygni> spoken like a first year hacker "Concerned" with security yet not grasping OpSec
[16:34:07] <NovaCygni> anyhows, delete the cookies, you cant just "Turn on a VPN/Proxy" and think your location isnt being leaked
[16:34:18] <kierqueen> I don't know what you are talking ,and how does youtube identify me, even though my proxy is from france
[16:34:35] <Strit_Laptop> kierqueen: because of your last known location.
[16:34:36] <kierqueen> No my VPN is not working
[16:34:38] <NovaCygni> Cookies + Cache = Location History
[16:35:14] <NovaCygni> If you want a "Secure" browser get one for the job and use that browser separately
[16:35:53] <NovaCygni> also use a "Free VPN" Extension not some generic shit proxy, proxies are used for sock4 or sock5 attacks not for general browsing
[16:36:28] <NovaCygni> Id suggest, Chrome, with a bunch of extensions for a "Secure" Pentesting based OS
[16:36:42] <kierqueen> chrome is owned by google
[16:36:51] <NovaCygni> So fucking what LOL
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[16:37:07] <Strit_Laptop> Google is not Evil Inc btw.
[16:37:16] <NovaCygni> dude, google my name and "Hacking" and come tell me if you want to try arguing OpSec with me ^_^
[16:37:18] <kierqueen> It is Strit_Laptop
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[16:37:53] <Strit_Laptop> kierqueen: No. It's an advertisment company. Not a take over the world company.
[16:38:02] <NovaCygni> Strit_Laptop, Hes sadly likely been corrupted by the Anon Legion skidtards
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[16:38:14] <Strit_Laptop> probably
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[16:38:50] <kierqueen> NovaCygni: how can I see my cache ?
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[16:39:55] <NovaCygni> ... :\ your "Concerned" with security yet lack the basic skills to navigate your own browser properly nor understand what or how security aspects of it work, you thus, are not a hacker, thus arnt important enough for any agencies to care about
[16:40:21] <NovaCygni> tip "Erase all history > Do you want to erase Cookies?....
[16:40:49] <NovaCygni> Strit_Laptop, did you hear about my Steam account getting hacked? :/
[16:41:05] <kierqueen> I did erase them, and cache too, but how do I view my cache, there is no place to click on
[16:41:09] <Strit_Laptop> No. I don't follow hacking that much.
[16:41:45] <NovaCygni> Strit_Laptop, some phag stole one of my steam accounts, took me 20 secs to find them, long story short, I took my account back :p
[16:41:55] <Strit_Laptop> hehe
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[16:42:29] <NovaCygni> kierqueen, Frankly your making it hard for yourself
[16:42:31] <NovaCygni> get
[16:42:33] <NovaCygni> Extensions
[16:43:06] <NovaCygni> Ill assume your using "Torbrowser" anyhows, which btw wont help you Tor was broken years ago
[16:43:10] <kierqueen> and one more thing, does youtube save my IP , but my IP is dyamic ? So they cant identify its me , if I get  the extensions?
[16:43:22] <NovaCygni> Youtube doesnt care about IPs
[16:43:34] <NovaCygni> it issues browser cookies
[16:43:39] <kierqueen> so it's doesn't record my IP
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[16:43:54] <NovaCygni> the cookie can be interchangeable from browsers or locations/ips
[16:44:00] <NovaCygni> of course it records the ips
[16:44:06] <NovaCygni> but it doesnt affect anything
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[16:44:45] <kierqueen> but you didn't tell me the required firefox extensions
[16:45:42] <NovaCygni> "EditThisCookie", "LiveHeaders / Tamper Headers", a Free VPN one, "Fake Headers"
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[16:46:05] <NovaCygni> ie, if your using a generic "Header" then your browser is already leaking a fuck ton of info on you
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[16:46:30] <NovaCygni>  ie> Browser version, display size/resolution, OS version
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[16:46:56] <Cronanius> Hey there, I just updated to the latest release, and I'm experiencing some weird issues with my tablet monitor. It seems like when I try to input via the tablet, X11 freaks out and freezes for a minute until it can "switch" controls, and does the same when I try to move the mouse. How can I diagnose this?
[16:47:36] <Strit_Laptop> Cronanius: what do you mean tablet monitor?
[16:47:54] <Cronanius> Strit_Laptop a WACOM Cintiq
[16:48:25] <Strit_Laptop> Hm, what input driver are you using?
[16:48:48] <Cronanius> hmm, it's been forever since I installed it, and can't recall off the top of my head, give me a minute
[16:50:00] <Cronanius> Strit_Laptop pacman suggests libwacom and xf86-input-wacom as the pertinent packages
[16:50:21] <Strit_Laptop> what about libinput or synaptics?
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[16:50:47] <Strit_Laptop> I don't know anything about these drawing tablets though, so I'm shooting in the dark.
[16:51:21] <Cronanius> both of those drivers are installed as well
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[16:52:13] <Strit_Laptop> Can you try uninstalling synaptics and rebooting, to see if it helps?
[16:52:35] <kierqueen> NovaCygni: do you use firefox ? There is no such addon as editthiscookie ?
[16:52:36] <Cronanius> Strit_Laptop: Yeah, I'll give it a shot
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[16:54:37] <NovaCygni> kierqueen, Theres one similar to it
[16:54:52] <NovaCygni> search for "Edit cookies" and just read the descriptions
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[16:56:59] <Cronanius> Strit_Laptop: just checking back in to tell you that removing synaptics seems to have worked flawlessly
[16:57:09] <kierqueen> what's a FREE VPN one ?
[16:57:18] <Strit_Laptop> Cronanius: that's great. Thanks for feedback. :)
[16:58:19] <Cronanius> Strit_Laptop: Of course! You've helped me bigly. I use this damn thing for hours a day sometimes. Can't live without it anymore, haha!
[16:58:35] <kierqueen> I did use randomspoof though, but there is no such thing as tamper headers NovaCygni
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[16:59:17] <kierqueen> and there isn o such thing as fake headers, I dont know anymore what to do
[16:59:18] <NovaCygni> kierqueen, "Liveheaders"
[16:59:21] <kierqueen> nope
[16:59:26] <NovaCygni> ...
[16:59:49] <kierqueen> ok live http headers yeah
[17:00:13] <geek> https://bpaste.net/show/efc82f12a1bd xfce date time click open google calendar :P, I don't know C well but this shit is working
[17:00:26] <kierqueen> but how do I see it in the menu toolbar?
[17:00:27] <NovaCygni> kierqueen, sec
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[17:00:57] <kierqueen> ok tools -> live http headers, yeah it doesn't modify the headers
[17:00:59] <NovaCygni> first, grab "UMatrix"... use that not popup blockers and shit, learn to use it in time, yourll love its controls
[17:01:29] <NovaCygni> Tamper Data
[17:01:38] <NovaCygni> by adam judson
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[17:02:16] <NovaCygni> "Live HTTP Headers"
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[17:02:47] <NovaCygni> HTTP Header Mangler
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[17:03:07] <NovaCygni> Firebug
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[17:17:03] <fish-bulb> hi
[17:17:28] <fish-bulb> I have an x220 tablet, the wacom screen digitizer isn't moving the cursor around
[17:17:47] <fish-bulb> the pen detects and stuff, but it only moves a weird + sign around the background
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[17:20:10] <fish-bulb> I need it to move the cursor and act as an input device
[17:20:19] <fish-bulb> and I haven't found out how to do it yet
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[17:20:53] <manjaro-web|8509> hi
[17:21:04] <manjaro-web|8509> hello
[17:21:06] <kierqueen> firefox isn't being maintained anymore, and we encourage you to use firefox Dev TOOLS
[17:21:33] <manjaro-web|8509> hiho
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[17:23:22] <manjaro-web|8509> hello
[17:23:30] <Strit_Laptop> kierqueen: Source?
[17:23:53] <manjaro-web|8509> what I am new her
[17:24:06] <Strit_Laptop> manjaro-web|8509: hi
[17:24:12] <manjaro-web|8509> ok bay
[17:24:14] <kierqueen> what /? Strit_Laptop
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[17:24:25] <Strit_Laptop> kierqueen: what's your source for that claim?
[17:24:38] <manjaro-web|8509> what is that
[17:24:40] <manjaro-web|8509> source
[17:24:50] <manjaro-web|8509> i don't undr
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[17:26:03] <Strit_Laptop> [17:21] <kierqueen> firefox isn't being maintained anymore, and we encourage you to use firefox Dev TOOLS
[17:26:59] <fish-bulb> I don't know why my wacom pen input isn't moving the actual cursor instead of some additional cursor that never moves away from the background
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[17:34:35] <Strit_Laptop> Anyone here know OwnCube? www.owncube.com
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[17:46:52] <kierqueen> firefox isn't maintained anymore? Strit_Laptop
[17:47:24] <kierqueen> i just installed the firebug
[17:47:30] <kierqueen> and that directed me there
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[17:54:49] <Strit_Laptop> kierqueen: you wrote, firefox is not maintained anymore. I just wanted to know what your source for that claim was.
[17:56:44] <kierqueen> Web Development Evolved. Firebug is free and open source software distributed under the BSD License.The Firebug extension isn't being developed or maintained any longer. We invite you to use the Firefox built-in DevTools instead.
[17:56:47] <kierqueen> Follow Firebug news on Twitter
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[17:56:59] <kierqueen> I just went to the firebug thing, and it's description is that
[17:57:04] <Strit_Laptop> So you ment Firebug, not firefox.
[17:57:08] <kierqueen> see it's description
[17:57:19] <kierqueen> yes, but see ti's description
[17:57:33] <Strit_Laptop> I am seeing it. So what?
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[17:58:07] <kierqueen> ok so how do I use the tools instead of firebug?
[17:58:12] <Strit_Laptop> No idea.
[17:58:18] <Strit_Laptop> I don't use firefox.
[17:59:14] <kierqueen> chrome?
[17:59:20] <Strit_Laptop> I use Chromium
[18:00:03] <mtn> kierqueen: are you planning on doing development?
[18:00:13] <kierqueen> no
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[18:00:21] <kierqueen> but they told to use that tool instead
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[18:00:28] <mtn> kierqueen: then why do you want to use devtools?
[18:00:33] <kierqueen> of firebug as I told you , as it's not maintained anymore
[18:01:48] <kierqueen> NovaCygni: hi
[18:02:13] <kierqueen> I did all of that you told, but I still the get the local results of my country when I use the proxysite.com ?
[18:02:23] <kierqueen> I don't know what FREE VPN you are talking of
[18:02:49] <kierqueen> how can I see my header info? and how do they track me, nad identify me /
[18:02:55] <kierqueen> mtn can you advise
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[18:03:23] <mtn> kierqueen: about what? you didn't even answer my question, anyway
[18:03:42] <monkey_> Can anyone point me to creating a samba share in manjaro xfce. I've done it several times in the past and i remember it taking me minutes
[18:04:37] <kierqueen> youtube keeps showing my results of my country even when I use proxysite.com and I did clear my cache and cookies, and use those addons ooffered to me by the NovaCygni
[18:04:46] <kierqueen> still I can find no escape from google
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[18:07:09] <monkey_> kierqueen, Look at trails
[18:08:14] <kierqueen> there is no such add on as trails monkey_ on firefox
[18:08:26] <monkey_> Its a distro...
[18:08:39] <physkets> its TAILS
[18:08:47] <kierqueen> lol what does it do? tails? i know it lol
[18:08:54] <kierqueen> trails it's  a distro
[18:09:04] <kierqueen> wtf tor is too slow
[18:09:13] <kierqueen> I can't use it for everyday browsing
[18:09:23] <monkey_> ahh sorry, mistyped
[18:09:31] <kierqueen> I do used it , but firefox spoofing is a good way monkey_ please
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[18:09:52] <monkey_> You cant be anonymous in every day browsing
[18:10:00] <kierqueen> NovaCygni: do you knkow how do I use the addons you sent to identify my headers myself, nad judge for myself
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[18:13:49] <kierqueen> NovaCygni: what did you mena,  I shouldn't use proxy site but free VPN one ? I don't use vpn , as ait's not free at all, nad the free ones are too slow like crypto storm, but why and how does youtube know me still ?
[18:13:57] <kierqueen> I am surprised youtube could be so bad
[18:14:24] <kierqueen> even after proxy and all that protection NovaCygni I don't understand how to interpret your silence
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[18:14:49] <sponge> Hello
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[18:15:48] <Strit> kierqueen: as people have told you. You can only be totally anon when browsing the internet through a VPN service.
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[18:17:00] <sponge> I upgraded manjaro today, and also added the linux 4.9 kernel alongside 4.4 (just to check it). I also updated grub. It seems now that when I restart my pc plasmashell is crashing - I get a black screen with the cursor, and then need to open krunner and relaunch plasma with kstart plasmashell. What could be the problem?
[18:17:38] <kierqueen> Strit: even with VPN it censors my result, and presents me the old results
[18:17:54] <kierqueen> so how do I getthe default way, as  If I joined first time
[18:18:02] <manjaro> bah lol i forgot the live cd uses manjaro as irc name lol
[18:18:08] <mtn> sponge: video drivers, most likely
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[18:18:39] <mtn> sponge: reinstall your driver while running the new kernel
[18:18:52] <H-H-H> thats better
[18:19:57] <sponge> mtn, Are you sure it's drivers? It happens even if I choose to load manjaro with kernel 4.4
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[18:20:23] <mtn> sponge: I thought you said it started after you upgraded to a newer kernel?
[18:20:27] * H-H-H waits for his filesystem to shrink so he can make a new partition in the empty space then a clean install is in order
[18:20:58] <mtn> sponge: so, reinstall the drivers while running 4.4
[18:21:15] <mtn> sponge: yes, that is a sign of a video driver problem
[18:23:01] <sponge> Oh, ok, got it!
[18:23:39] <sponge> mtn, When trying to install drivers I get: Skipping already installed config 'video-intel' for device: 0000:00:02.0 (0300:8086:0126) Display controller Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[18:23:58] <sponge> Should I force the installation somehow?
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[18:24:54] <mtn> sponge: in a terminal: inxi -Gx   paste the results to dpaste.com and give us the link
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[18:25:28] <Tanjim> HI
[18:25:31] <Tanjim> is that bot ?
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[18:25:54] <Tanjim> I am new in linux os
[18:25:58] <Yoda__> good evening or good orning all
[18:26:02] <Yoda__> morning
[18:26:08] <H-H-H> ty mtn that explains why my system is looking like crap lol
[18:26:11] <Yoda__> welcome to the linux realm
[18:26:13] <sponge> mtn, http://dpaste.com/1XJ1YG2
[18:26:39] <Tanjim> nice system
[18:26:40] <mtn> sponge: ty. what de are you using? kde or....?
[18:26:53] <sponge> KDE
[18:26:54] <Yoda__> has anyone experienced a problem using a library wifi connection?
[18:27:10] <Tanjim> Hi
[18:27:10] <mtn> sponge: did you install wayland by any chance?
[18:27:25] <Tanjim> can i play league of legends here?
[18:27:27] <Yoda__> its one of those web site connection thing where you accept their terms
[18:27:56] <Yoda__> for some reason my brother doesnt load the web page I used chromium firefox and palemoon
[18:28:19] <sponge> mtn, The upgrade updated wayland. I was also surprised that I have wayland on my system, but it seems that I had it
[18:28:37] <Tanjim> Can someone tell me is their any option to play League of Legends in linux?
[18:28:51] <Yoda__> wine
[18:28:58] <mtn> sponge: check in the login window to see if you are starting plasma with wayland or have that option
[18:28:59] <Yoda__> install wine
[18:29:00] <H-H-H> Tanjin google can tell you
[18:29:14] <Strit> Tanjim: https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=34726
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[18:30:23] <Tanjim> thank you H-H-H :)
[18:30:23] <sponge> mtn, Where in the login screen can I check whether it's plasma with wayland?
[18:30:29] <Tanjim> I will find out it
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[18:30:44] <mtn> sponge: you should see a place to choose your desktop. some icon or dropdown
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[18:31:06] <mtn> sponge: upper left?
[18:31:54] <sponge> mtn, I'll try to log out/reboot and check. brb
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[18:54:52] <kierquee1> I did use tor-browser
[18:54:57] <kierquee1> but I still get that error
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[18:55:21] <kierquee1> songs are of my location even with tor? how did it happen ? doesn't it happen to you ?
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[19:00:43] <Yoda__> hmmm never thought about using tor
[19:00:48] <Yoda__> for library access
[19:00:52] <Yoda__> might work
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[19:01:22] <Yoda__> for some reason all the browsers Im using will not log into the public library
[19:01:34] <Yoda__> but tor may
[19:02:03] <sponge> mtn, It seems that I can't choose a different session in the login screen, because it's a bit broken. Everything appear so tiny and there's no button for choosing session :\
[19:04:37] <Yoda__> dont know why my browsers do not accept the security certificate for the library
[19:04:58] <Yoda__> I use manjaro xfce its ok
[19:05:02] <Yoda__> or any of the ubunty
[19:05:06] <Yoda__> ubuntu
[19:05:09] <Yoda__> is ok
[19:05:14] <Yoda__> but I use lxde
[19:05:24] <Yoda__> doesnt matter which browser
[19:05:31] <Yoda__> doesnt load any page
[19:06:31] <mtn> sponge: hmm, sure sounds like something with video is not working correctly
[19:06:48] <sponge> hmmm
[19:07:03] <sponge> Is there a way to bypass it? Or maybe uninstall wayland?
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[19:07:14] <mtn> sponge: easy to uninstall wayland
[19:07:23] <mtn> sponge: I think ;)
[19:08:07] <sponge> I hope it doesn't break the computer
[19:08:41] <sponge> Is there a way to disable wayland?
[19:08:52] <sponge> without uninstalling?
[19:08:53] <mtn> sponge: uninstal it
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[19:09:32] <sponge> uninstalling wayland offers to remove 795 packages..
[19:09:38] <Thorax> I just installed samba-system-config from the AUR and it completely borked my system. Fresh install yesterday#
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[19:12:19] <physkets> Hey! Does anybody here know how I could go about finding someone from the PGP strong set?
[19:12:56] <mtn> sponge: try booting with nomodeset and see if you can see the desktop options in the login window
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