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[00:00:27] <noobscrub73> https://thepasteb.in/p/Elh1VvPlBmACm <-- it reinstalled it, but still not finding the command
[00:00:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/grmfjz] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
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[00:01:34] <optics> and this does nothing? manjaro-chroot -a
[00:03:40] <noobscrub73> hmm, ok,
[00:03:51] <noobscrub73> if I do it in the regular manjaro bash it does something
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[00:04:01] <noobscrub73> but it's not found in the mount bash konsole
[00:04:47] <optics> did it chroot to your install on sda1?
[00:05:21] <noobscrub73> the manjaro-chroot -a went to the sda1 mount
[00:05:59] <optics> so your on your install?
[00:07:10] <noobscrub73> https://thepasteb.in/p/oYhljg4B5XrfZ i have no idea ;-;
[00:07:11] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/oxYuUf] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
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[00:09:24] <optics> does it say root@ManjaroLinux
[00:09:50] <noobscrub73> it says [root@manjaro /]#
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[00:13:04] <optics> go to desktop
[00:13:33] <optics> do you have stuff in home or something
[00:13:44] <optics> to check if your on your install
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[00:14:11] <noobscrub73> yeah
[00:14:18] <noobscrub73> if i go to home it has my username
[00:14:27] <optics> ok kewl yep your in
[00:14:36] <noobscrub73> woo  :D
[00:14:47] <noobscrub73> now how do i update a kernel q.q
[00:14:57] <noobscrub73> I'm so terrible at this
[00:15:15] <optics> i would suggest reinstalling the video driver to free
[00:15:21] <optics> and upgrade the kernel
[00:15:23] <noobscrub73> oki
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[00:16:17] <optics> http://pastebin.com/4Z1fA81d
[00:16:18] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/RjyHsz] pacman-mirrors -g  pacman -Syyu  mhwd-kernel -i linux49  mhwd -a pci free 0300 - Pastebin.com
[00:16:41] <optics> try that goodness
[00:16:48] <optics> n reboot
[00:22:00] <optics> to your system
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[00:31:52] <noobscrub72> Wooo it worked !!! :D
[00:32:08] <noobscrub72> no idea if it was the gfx driver or the kernel, but I'm in now
[00:32:21] <noobscrub72> optics: ty sooo much~~ ILY <3
[00:32:47] <optics> now don't touch Anything (j/k)
[00:33:04] <noobscrub72> hehe >.<
[00:34:35] <noobscrub72> Anyway, I'm off to sleep now. night all o/ thanks again
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[00:34:55] <optics> so you can remove the old dud kernel with sudo mhwd-kernel -r linux44
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[00:57:20] <negen> does anyone know how how many days behind nvidia linux drivers are compared the windows packages?
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[01:01:14] <rhg135> nvidia might, maybe
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[01:03:52] <negen> Muqss is a cool think I think
[01:04:39] <negen> this old pc I have has 12/24 cores so I think I get a bit of a boost from muqss
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[01:06:34] <negen> I think someone is having an identity crisis
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[01:07:27] <optics> I want one of these to play with when bored https://youtu.be/7Ec_vQMNHK0
[01:07:29] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EkxbLC] Playing with Junk 33 - $10'000'000 IBM server disassembled (Part 2) - YouTube
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[01:09:37] <negen> my system is pretty much this thing
[01:09:38] <negen> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIFjaXXeneY
[01:09:39] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/yyp27p] $200 Awesome Server - 24 cores and 128GB RAM - 350 - YouTube
[01:10:00] <negen> but with a evga sr-2 motherboard and 2 x5670 cpus and only 24gb ram
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[01:11:26] <optics> nice!
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[01:14:07] <optics> "it's a good server... it can do a lot of good stuff for you"
[01:14:09] <optics> hahaha
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[01:15:50] <optics> like this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dell-PowerEdge-R710-Virtualization-Server-4-Core-12GB-8x146-10K-PERC6-Enterprise-/142063542202?hash=item2113a59fba:g:hfIAAOSw0fhXk9jD
[01:15:52] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/u9Kw8b] Dell PowerEdge R710 Virtualization Server 4 Core 12GB 8x146 10K PERC6 Enterprise
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[01:20:16] <manjaroCinnamon> Hey guys.
[01:20:27] <manjaroCinnamon> Got a basic question...
[01:20:41] <manjaroCinnamon> I'm trying to figure out the mail command, and I can't seem to figure out what's going wrong.
[01:20:49] <manjaroCinnamon> Just want to send messages locally.
[01:21:50] <manjaroCinnamon> Seems to 'send' mail, but running 'mail' or 'mail -f username' says there is no mail.
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[01:43:20] <Lupus-Dei> a3
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[01:45:08] <manjaroi3> a
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[02:00:44] <BugzBunny> I turn on my phone
[02:00:50] <BugzBunny> I NEED
[02:01:02] <BugzBunny> to wait for it optimizing app
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[02:01:16] <BugzBunny> To use my phone
[02:01:25] <BugzBunny> fuck me
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[02:13:48] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[02:15:37] <b0n> well howdy pardner
[02:17:56] <Yoda_> lol
[02:17:56] <Yoda_> howdy doodly doooo
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[02:30:37] <manjaro-kde5-> i have 9 updates from AUR doi have to update it too is it safe  ?
[02:32:27] <BugzBunny> AUR is separate!
[02:33:11] <BugzBunny> Those packages, by those maintainers, needs to be updated
[02:35:31] <CountryfiedLinux> There's a new global menu for Xfce and Mate  I might make a video showing. Works for Qt4 and Qt5 apps a well, and in Xfce the window menus can be disabled while using it.
[02:35:47] <CountryfiedLinux> But then again Unity has had this feature for years.
[02:35:48] <b0n> ya -Syyu ?
[02:35:53] <b0n> er, sorry. yaourt
[02:35:57] <b0n> aliases.
[02:36:06] <xangua> Works with qt? CountryfiedLinux
[02:36:26] <CountryfiedLinux> xangua: From what I read about it.
[02:36:46] <xangua> Share
[02:37:08] <CountryfiedLinux> xangua: I'll make that video tonight or tomorrow.
[02:37:09] <CountryfiedLinux> bbl
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[02:37:37] <manjaro-kde5-> but i din install anything from AUR its a freshlyinstalled manajro i did a 1.3 gb system update and left with 9 AURupdates whis is like gstreamer
[02:38:01] <b0n> idk what aur updates you mean
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[02:39:27] <BugzBunny> manjaro-kde5-, Manjaro does use AUR
[02:39:28] <manjaro-kde5-> what i am asking is i am noob very newto rolling relaese and i am afraid i might break system , i heard using aur packages might break ur system
[02:40:05] <BugzBunny> So if you have AUR updates, that mean you installed a AUR package that the package manage is detecting
[02:40:28] <BugzBunny> I mean, Manjaro does not use AUR
[02:41:21] <manjaro-kde5-> but i did not install anything its a freshlyinstalled manajro ihavent installed a single package eitther form manajrorepoor aur
[02:41:47] <manjaro-kde5-> gstreamer0.10
[02:41:48] <manjaro-kde5-> gstreamer0.10-bad
[02:41:50] <manjaro-kde5-> gstreamer0.10-bad-plugins
[02:41:51] <manjaro-kde5-> gstreamer0.10-base
[02:41:53] <manjaro-kde5-> gstreamer0.10-base-plugins
[02:41:59] <manjaro-kde5-> those are the aur updates
[02:42:19] <Stuzz> If you just installed then you have nothing to lose
[02:42:41] <Stuzz> Go break things and then learn by fixing
[02:42:48] <manjaro-kde5-> :(
[02:43:01] <Stuzz> You don't like learning?
[02:43:09] <BugzBunny> Regardless, Manjaro does not USE AUR
[02:43:27] <optics> AUR is off on freshly installed system by default
[02:43:30] <BugzBunny> He may NOT know he install a package from AUR
[02:43:34] <optics> so you shouldn't have any AUR updates pending
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[02:43:42] <BugzBunny> Manjaro does NOT use AUR
[02:44:15] <BugzBunny> That's something HE needs to understand
[02:44:18] <optics> AUR is Evil
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[02:44:28] <optics> it  is a cardinal sin
[02:44:32] <manjaro-kde5-> i have used manajro xfce AUR is disabled by default but in manjaro kde AURis enblaed by default and i cannot find an option to disable it
[02:44:37] <BugzBunny> It's not, if you don't know what the fuck you are doing
[02:44:43] <optics> lol
[02:45:12] <BugzBunny> It's not
[02:45:36] <BugzBunny> Unless something has changed, you _have_ enable AUR in pamac
[02:45:54] <BugzBunny> pamac is from Manjaro developers
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[02:46:28] <b0n> so how could he have aur stuff?
[02:46:40] <manjaro-kde5-> yes
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[02:46:47] <BugzBunny> He installed it
[02:46:49] <manjaro-kde5-> i did a fresh install
[02:46:54] <BugzBunny> _simple_
[02:47:05] <manjaro-kde5-> not din install anything
[02:47:06] <BugzBunny> That's a _really_ stupid question to ask
[02:47:08] <manjaro-kde5-> :@
[02:47:35] <BugzBunny> Unless you acussing Manjaro developers; that hey use AUR
[02:48:30] <u53r> manjaro-kde5-: if u talking about package installer frontend u can remove octopi and install pamac or have both.
[02:48:51] <manjaro-kde5-> oh
[02:48:55] <u53r> default one which u have used with xfce is pamac
[02:49:12] <manjaro-kde5-> but octopuiis better forkde right
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[02:49:31] <optics> that moment when you realise you have had your shirt on inside out all day..
[02:50:00] * optics is ageing gracefully
[02:50:14] <u53r> depends on u nothing is better or worse octopi is QT app
[02:50:28] <u53r> may find some asthetic differences thats all
[02:50:50] <optics> octopi is one dirty squid, use pamac
[02:50:54] <u53r> keep in mind to install pamac-tray-appindicator on kde
[02:51:26] <manjaro-kde5-> but in pacman u can disable AUR like u can uncheck check for updates in AUR but in octupi i cant find such options
[02:51:34] <u53r> personally i am on kde and prefer pamac
[02:51:42] <manjaro-kde5-> oh
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[02:57:57] <BugzBunny> in _pamac_, AUR does NOT come _enabled_ by _default_
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[02:58:10] <BugzBunny> Unless something has _changed_
[03:01:08] <BugzBunny> As far as gstreamer; Arch repos does _not_ have proprietary decoders but Manjaro has that in their _repos_
[03:05:01] <optics> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/new-shirt/17782
[03:05:02] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/gKGUmC] New Shirt - Artwork - Manjaro
[03:06:46] <b0n> i like it but it doesnt make me think of manjaro when i seez it
[03:06:57] <b0n> makes me think of megatron and the decepticons..
[03:07:05] <optics> haahh yes
[03:07:28] <optics> it's too small also
[03:07:52] <optics> car rag?
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[03:30:34] <Pampa> Herro fellow manjarites
[03:30:52] <Pampa> sounds like some sect name when i say it like that.
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[04:49:20] <vonquack> Pampa: isn't that a bit what distros are? :)
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[05:42:54] <manjaro-kde5-> what is manajro steam that comes default with manjaro installation
[05:49:13] <optics> steam-manjaro is the same as steam-native i Think
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[05:52:08] <optics> i could be wrong i don't use it
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[06:06:06] <sgo11> hi, I am reading https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=VirtualBox . I get confused that I have to install the appropriate VirtualBox Host Module based on my linux kernel version. I am from ubuntu. In ubuntu, I simply apt-get install virtualbox. that's all. if I have to pick the virtualbox based on my kernel version. what if I update my kernel version later? Do I have to uninstall virtualbox and reinstall a new version again? this is really too much
[06:06:06] <sgo11> work.
[06:06:08] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/5WEq01] VirtualBox - Manjaro Linux
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[06:07:24] <optics> no you don't the kernel update will do it for you
[06:07:32] <sgo11> I got disconnectd somehow.
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[06:08:08] <sgo11> Remote host closed socket? why? I keep getting disconnected....
[06:09:05] <sgo11> optics, thanks. that means I just need to pick one virtualbox version based on my current kernel and pacman upgrade will take care of later updates. right? thanks.
[06:09:21] <optics> correct
[06:09:31] <sgo11> optics, thank you very much.
[06:09:42] <optics> check your kernel version then just sudo pacman -S virtualbox
[06:09:54] <optics> it will ask you which kernel module version you want
[06:10:11] <sgo11> optics, ok. got it. thanks. :)
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[06:40:28] <sgo11> hi, when I execute "sudo pacman -Syy" I got this error msg: "error: failed retrieving file 'infinality-bundle.db' from bohoomil.com : Could not resolve host: bohoomil.com".
[06:40:57] <sgo11> I tried to dig @8.8.8.8 bohoomil.com. even 8.8.8.8 can not resolve this host name. what is it?
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[06:45:01] <Vlado9A> sgo11: try to do sudo pacman-mirrors -g
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[06:46:13] <Vlado9A> and then whatever you need to update
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[06:52:38] <sgo11> Vlado9A, sorry, my network got some problems and was disconnected. I think that command will create the file /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist, right? I don't think that file has any problems. I will try that command now.
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[06:53:46] <Vlado9A> mirrors changes as well, so you need to update them as well...I suggest doing it as first
[06:54:01] <CountryfiedLinux> I think I'm gonna need to upgrade from 2 GB to 4 GB of RAM in order for my Chromebook to capture smooth gameplay video.
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[06:54:24] <Vlado9A> gm CountryfiedLinux
[06:54:42] <CountryfiedLinux> Asphalt Extreme and Modern Combat 5 are the 2 Android games I'm playing now. And with a PS3 controller! :D
[06:54:50] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy Vlado9A
[06:55:31] <sgo11> Vlado9A, i run the command you asked. my mirrorlist does not change at all. thus, the problem still exists. I have no idea why pacman tries to access bohoomil.com which is not accessible at all.
[06:56:24] <Vlado9A> sgo11: are you trying to update your manjaro?
[06:57:11] <sgo11> Vlado9A, I am just trying to update the pacman cache. my cache was too old. without the new cache, I will not be able to install anything. I am not trying update manjaro.
[06:57:27] <sgo11> Vlado9A, I am trying to install some new packages. that's all.
[06:58:33] <sgo11> I don't know if I should call it "cache"... just trying to sync the pacman database.
[07:00:25] <rhg135> It is a cache, yes
[07:00:42] <Vlado9A> sgo11: I strongly suggest updating your full system before installing new packages
[07:02:06] <sgo11> Vlado9A, thanks for the suggestion. the problem is I haven't installed anything. today, I open my laptop and run sudo pacman -Syy. that is what I got. I haven't done anything and that error comes out. it doesn't make sense to me.
[07:02:48] <sgo11> I am reading https://forum.manjaro.org/t/cant-install-infinality-fonts-renderer/16205/3
[07:02:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/cmO6YM] Can't install infinality fonts renderer - Newbie Corner - Manjaro
[07:04:11] <sgo11> I still don't get what happened to my system. what to do now? I didn't (haven't) done anything. the error just comes out.
[07:06:37] <sgo11> My situation: (1) sudo pacman -Syyu about two months ago. everything works fine. (2) I haven't run pacman -Syy during these two months. everythng works fine. (3) sudo pacman -Syy today. errors come out. why?
[07:09:45] <Stuzz> Two months is a long time
[07:10:43] <rhg135> What is this, arch?
[07:11:02] <sgo11> manjaro
[07:11:05] <rhg135> Oh wait
[07:11:29] <sgo11> anyway, I just upgrade the system.... xorg-server and xf86-input-acecad are in conflict (X-ABI-XINPUT_VERSION). Remove xf86-input-acecad? [y/N]  what should I do? yes?
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[07:11:59] <rhg135> sgo11: btw, infinality is dead now
[07:12:50] <sgo11> rhg135, ok. hopefully, I just upgrade my system and the error will magically go away. I am trying to upgrade the system now.
[07:13:40] <rhg135> Not that one, infinality is, like, dead
[07:13:46] <Stuzz> That's not an error per se...  just info
[07:13:58] <rhg135> The repo doesn't exist anymore
[07:14:00] <u53r> sgo11: that bohoomil server is down... u on right article go through this one https://gist.github.com/cryzed/e002e7057435f02cc7894b9e748c5671 remove infinality bundle
[07:14:06] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/eKNs7t] A set of instructions on how to fix the harfbuzz + Infinality issue and restoring good-looking, Infinality-like font rendering. · GitHub
[07:14:12] <Stuzz> I usual say YES to those things and don't have trouble
[07:14:46] <sgo11> ok. thanks all.
[07:15:03] <sgo11> Stuzz, I will say YES to all questions then.
[07:15:22] <Stuzz> Can I have $1 million dollars?
[07:17:05] <sgo11> Stuzz, I am not a native-english speaker. I am wondering what people normally answer this kinda question? ^_^ yeah, you got it?
[07:18:07] <sgo11> I am from ubuntu world. hopefully, the system upgrade will not break anything. this is kinda my first time full system upgrade. I switched to manjaro two months ago from ubuntu.
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[07:21:43] <CountryfiedLinux> The White House has voted to allow states to direct federal funding away from planned parenthood. Yay!
[07:22:08] <CountryfiedLinux> Chrome OS is my favorite right now. It's on my Chromebook.
[07:23:09] <Pampa_> You mean SpyMe OS?
[07:24:26] * Stuzz chuckles
[07:24:35] <CountryfiedLinux>  I mean the fast and stable Chrome OS that's a desktop and tablet OS on the same flip device and supports Android apps, including free HD games I can use my PS3 controller to play.
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[07:24:51] <rhg135> Again with the paranoia lol
[07:25:51] <CountryfiedLinux> You wear your aluminum foil hat and I'll continue to enjoy my inexpensive fast computer that has free games. :)
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[07:26:55] <sgo11> after full system upgrade. all my custom icons/themes/wallpapaers are gone!!! this is no good. it took me two days to configure them....
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[07:30:53] <Stuzz> Ya know aluminimum foil hats increase the strength of those things they're traditionally though to be good for blocking?
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[07:31:53] <rhg135> Those foil hats would sell well here, but they wouldn't trust them
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[07:33:59] <Stuzz> CountryfiedLinux: Whatchu playin'?
[07:34:51] <CountryfiedLinux> Stuzz: Asphalt Extreme and Modern Combat 5.
[07:35:03] <Pampa_> Well it's not paranoia if they are based on true facts about the owl.
[07:36:38] <CountryfiedLinux> Do owls walk?
[07:36:38] <Stuzz> Cool.  Hill Climb Racing 2 is keeping me occupied :)
[07:37:02] <Stuzz> Yes, owls can walk
[07:37:10] <CountryfiedLinux> I know :P
[07:37:16] <CountryfiedLinux> silly question
[07:38:08] <Pampa_> hey, play fire emblem heroes if you're on android
[07:38:23] <Pampa_> I heard some pretty good feedback
[07:38:57] <Stuzz> I did, but didn't care for it
[07:39:19] <CountryfiedLinux> Pampa_: You mean Fire Emblem Heroes?
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[07:44:46] <Pampa_> Yup
[07:45:11] <Pampa_> I used to play a fun little game but i forgot its name....
[07:48:56] <CountryfiedLinux> I've become a huge fan of Gameloft.
[07:49:16] <CountryfiedLinux> Lots of great free HD games for Android and full controller support.
[07:52:14] <sgo11> Hi, I am reading https://gist.github.com/cryzed/e002e7057435f02cc7894b9e748c5671. It looks very complicated. I think that is just a workaround instead of a fix. I am wondering who should be responsible for this problem and should I file a bug? Will pacman -Syyu fix this issue in the future? (since infinality-bundle/bohoomil.com is dead). thanks a lot.
[07:52:17] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jooqZk] (link was unresponsive: https://gist.github.com/cryzed/e002e7057435f02cc7894b9e748c5671.)
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[07:54:08] <Pampa_> eh i'm not a fan of their business model
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[08:14:29] <dbpq> hello
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[08:15:56] <dbpq> I need help with something
[08:17:02] <dbpq> I managed to install manjaro hassle free on virtualbox, but now when I try install it on the actual machine, I get login loader or something FAILED
[08:17:36] <dbpq> It worked previously so I don't know why it's not working now
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[08:17:47] <dbpq> ALso I've looked at the checksums they are fine
[08:19:03] <Pampa_> What's your pc?
[08:19:08] <Pampa_> I mean hardware
[08:19:12] <dbpq> Asus Laptop
[08:19:24] <dbpq> can u give me a cmd to print everything out?
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[08:19:46] <dbpq> im on virtualbox manjaro
[08:19:46] <Pampa_> god gracious if only i knew
[08:19:52] <Pampa_> :P
[08:19:56] <dbpq> ok its fine i'll just ...
[08:20:22] <Pampa_> I wish i was your cyber jesus but i'm not the droid you're looking for
[08:20:58] <dbpq> intel core i76500U
[08:21:07] <dbpq> 2 CPUs
[08:21:17] <dbpq> 4 logical ones
[08:21:24] <dbpq> 8GB ram
[08:21:36] <dbpq> geforce 940m
[08:21:45] <dbpq> with 2GB ram
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[08:43:44] <rhg135> inxi -Fxz
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[08:44:00] <rhg135> That is useful to look at
[08:44:34] <day|flip> inxi -v8
[08:45:13] <day|flip> oo i mean inxi -v7
[08:45:30] <day|flip> it have to many much info
[08:46:15] <day|flip> to much**
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[09:08:12] <notanon48> Recent unstable updates (mesa 17, xorg- packages) have made my system unbootable. What do?
[09:08:13] <notanon48> http://pastebin.com/hnL53zhW
[09:08:14] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ZkIHS7] [    28.029]   X.Org X Server 1.19.1  Release Date: 2017-01-11  [    28.029] X P - Pastebin.com
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[09:14:48] <rhg135> Nvidia, man...
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[09:15:21] <notanon48> ye
[09:15:42] <day|flip> driver are becomming more unstable
[09:15:46] <day|flip> ?
[09:17:23] <notanon48> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/unbootable-after-update/17795
[09:17:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/qcsxXu] Unbootable after update - Technical Issues and Assistance - Manjaro
[09:18:39] <rhg135> Need to downgrade X iirc
[09:19:14] <notanon48> how do i go about doing that? Is it suu or something
[09:20:29] <rhg135> You're running unstable so I don't think the upgrades are well tested
[09:21:23] <notanon48> You are definitely right, it was my mistake. Since it usually works out, didn't expect to step into a minefield :D
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[09:24:33] <chancres> guys help me setupo wifi hotspot in my laptop pc. help im noob
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[09:26:55] <rhg135> I would run unstable myself, but I really need my computer working
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[09:27:27] <rhg135> I could fix it, but it's annoying
[09:29:52] <notanon48> I'm gonna attempt a downgrade brb :d
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[09:37:12] <Fenix17> morning everybody! is there a way to skip a single program update that causes conflicts to let system apply all other updates?
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[09:38:31] <Fenix17> octopi finds 14 new updates but it start with amarok, conflicts are found and it stops whole list...
[09:38:32] <rhg135> There is, but depending on the program it can be a bad idea
[09:38:47] <notanon48> I think it's IgnorePkg
[09:39:01] <Fenix17> well seems stupid to me this behaviour
[09:39:23] <rhg135> Oh, amarok is fine to skip I think
[09:39:46] <Fenix17> not used to command line could u pls tell me it?
[09:40:26] <notanon48> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman#Skip_package_from_being_upgraded
[09:40:27] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/DGy3Xg] pacman - ArchWiki
[09:40:37] <Fenix17> btw... is this normal on linux? killing whole update process if jsut 1 pack has problem?
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[09:42:34] <rhg135> Keeping a consistent set of versions is intended, yes
[09:45:23] <Fenix17> what's the point?  i can get it about "all or nothing"
[09:46:46] <rhg135> I don't think remaining on outdated versions should be a default
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[09:50:13] <notanon48> Guess I'm too stupid to downgrade the packages. Thank god for dualbooting.
[09:51:07] <rhg135> No shame in that, I keep snapshots
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[09:56:30] <Fenix17> sudo pacman -Syu --ignore amarok seems worked
[09:57:02] <notanon48> good :D
[09:58:03] <Fenix17> still got error with xorg though... let's hope it works after reboot XD
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[10:00:01] <rhg135> You're not on unstable right?
[10:00:11] <Fenix17> yes XD
[10:00:38] <rhg135> It should still work
[10:00:43] <Fenix17> xorg-server: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so alredy present
[10:00:56] <rhg135> Just less likely to not break
[10:01:27] <Fenix17> i just did smth i whould haven't: rename original libglx.so to "bypass" error and it installed
[10:01:28] <rhg135> What package owns that file?
[10:01:30] <thid> morning
[10:01:58] <rhg135> Good evening
[10:03:04] <Fenix17> dunno
[10:05:11] <Fenix17> ( 3/13) aggiornamento in corso di mesa                                [######################################] 100% ( 4/13) aggiornamento in corso di mhwd-db                             [######################################] 100% ( 5/13) aggiornamento in corso di mhwd                                [######################################] 100% Using default Default lib32 support: true xorg configuration symlink valid... libGl and
[10:05:23] <Fenix17> mhwd-db i think
[10:05:37] <Fenix17> no sory mhwd-0.5.9-1
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[10:06:10] <rhg135> That's odd then
[10:06:35] <Fenix17> oh well, i'm quite addiceted to chaos
[10:08:17] <Fenix17> reboot time
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[10:19:36] <optics> anyone know why xfce4-terminal would not be letting me see and select terminus-font for it?
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[10:21:13] <optics> it's only seeing ttf fonts installed on the system
[10:24:15] <rhg135> Does it work in other vte programs?
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[10:25:14] <optics> no it is not showing terminus in any program even though terminus-font package is installed
[10:25:32] <akarst> I just installed the "terminus-font" package, and it's showing in xfce4-terminal
[10:26:04] <akarst> as "xos4 Terminus Regular"
[10:27:20] <optics> reinstalled terminus-font and still not showing
[10:27:43] <optics> version 4.40-3.1
[10:31:47] <optics> looks like a freetype 2.7.1 problem http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/freetype/2017-01/msg00019.html
[10:31:50] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/aOlOoK] (link was unresponsive: http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/freetype/2017-01/msg00019.html)
[10:33:20] <akarst> are you guys using linux-ck kernel? if so, did you notice any difference?
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[10:39:40] <Fenix17> XD
[10:39:58] <Fenix17> had to play a bit with terminal to get the ui back
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[10:40:15] <optics> boom
[10:40:23] <optics> my beloved terminus is back
[10:40:28] <optics> editing line 8 of /etc/fonts/conf.avail/75-yes-terminus.conf to <patelt name="family"><string>xos4 Terminus</string></patelt> and rebooting lets me select terminus font again
[10:40:56] <day|flip> to me. i'm a monospace terminal user :)
[10:41:17] <optics> or should i say xos4 Terminus
[10:41:34] <day|flip> it just a stupid rename
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[10:42:20] <optics> i was using this Terminus-ttf-regular.ttf and it wouldn't let me set the size to 10 which is what i use
[10:42:27] <optics> first world probles..
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[10:54:16] <optics> i have posted my findings for the masses https://forum.manjaro.org/t/terminus-font-missing/17803
[10:54:17] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/MOLDY3] Terminus font missing? - Technical Issues and Assistance - Manjaro
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[10:56:20] <optics> i'm 5 days too late https://forum.manjaro.org/t/terminus-font-name-fix-after-freetype2-update-to-2-7-1-1/15530
[10:56:21] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/2W1Fmn] Terminus font name fix after freetype2 update to 2.7.1-1 - Tutorials - Manjaro
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[11:19:05] <thid> what do u guys think about using arch/manjaro for web server (nginx, python, mongodb)?
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[11:21:21] <day|flip> thid: just used a older kernel that going have eol. should be set
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[11:39:25] <thid> yeah I was thinking about that
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[11:53:08] <mparillo> This morning, on unstable, when updating, I get: xorg-server: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so exists in filesystem
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[11:54:17] <mparillo> If I delete it, do I get the new one? If I cp  /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so  /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.old I suppose I could get it back
[11:55:01] <mparillo> In case I wish I had not deleted it.
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[12:17:47] <ZslayerLP> i destroyed my system with the clean font everything went gray im using my live usb. how can i fix it
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[12:22:37] <ZslayerLP> anyone here
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[12:24:12] <zslayerlp1> well thats the same channel lol
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[12:25:05] <ZslayerLP> i destroyed my system with the clean font everything went gray im using my live usb. how can i fix it
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[12:34:27] <ZslayerLP> i destroyed my system with the clean font everything went gray im using my live usb. how can i fix it
[12:34:40] <ZslayerLP> best support ever
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[12:44:53] <tme> sure it is
[12:45:54] <tme> well what was the exact steps you made before the fuckup?
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[12:49:10] <tme> damn, he left already
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[13:54:59] <idatalogin> ,greetings, upgrade came for me, but i want to do a clean install and i dont see  the 17.02 iso
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[14:05:38] <xabbu> idatalogin, normally you don't need to do a clean install, but if you want download 16.10.3 and do then the upgrade or uses 17.0-beta3
[14:11:17] <idatalogin> i see, thnaks, i think i'll do this
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[14:22:09] <chr0n1c> hi all.. after update i'm getting this issue: https://ghostbin.com/paste/6vau2
[14:22:12] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/xBq7rV] 6vau2 - Ghostbin
[14:22:23] <chr0n1c> all packages is getting this warning..
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[14:26:57] <negen> is your mirror list updated ?
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[14:30:02] <chr0n1c> i think yes
[14:30:41] <chr0n1c> i suspecting that after install this byzanz.. i get these issues
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[14:46:17] <chr0n1c> solutions????
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[15:25:47] <SirJackHoff> If I upgrade to Kodi v17, will there be an easy way for me to downgrade down to 16 if the audio passthrough has issues?
[15:27:07] <saleem> hi, i have no icons in dolphin in super user http://imgur.com/a/5Hyby
[15:27:08] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/K63Vih] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
[15:27:16] <saleem> how to fix it?
[15:27:48] <saleem> looked for clues but cant find any clue
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[15:45:01] <d42> fix it by not running it as root
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[15:48:44] <SirJackHoff> Anybody out there want to help  guy out?
[15:50:00] <Kjeldmis> SirJackHoff: depends, whats the problem?
[15:50:24] <SirJackHoff> If I upgrade to Kodi v17, will there be an easy way for me to downgrade down to 16 if the audio passthrough has issues?
[15:51:22] <Kjeldmis> SirJackHoff: If Kodi is a regular package, you can roll it back.
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[15:52:37] <SirJackHoff> Kodi is a regular package.
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[15:52:50] <SirJackHoff> Do you know how to do this with pacman commands?
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[15:52:57] <Kjeldmis> SirJackHoff: does it upgrade any dependencies with it?
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[15:54:25] <SirJackHoff> I did the upgrade for everything today at once. When I do it later on an offline media center that Ihave not updated in months, I will just be doing pacman -Sy and then pacman -S kodi
[15:55:09] <Kjeldmis> SirJackHoff: So, Kodi is not installed at the system at this point?
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[15:55:39] <Kjeldmis> you can only roll back if you had the prior version installed before you upgrade. '
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[15:56:15] <SirJackHoff> It is.It is just version 16. It is my main media center but unfortunately I have to have "sync playback to display" enabled, whcih i hear in kodi 17 makes an issue for audio passthrough.
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[15:57:00] <SirJackHoff> So it sounds like roll back is an option
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[15:58:04] <Kjeldmis> SirJackHoff: before you upgrade, check that the package version u want is present in  /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
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[15:58:59] <Kjeldmis> If you havent cleaned ur cache, its probably there, and you can rollback using pacman -U  /var/cache/pacman/pkg/packagename
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[15:59:31] <SirJackHoff> 16.1.6 and 16.1.5 are in the cache
[15:59:56] <SirJackHoff> Holy cow do I have a lot of packages in there. Might have to clear some of those since my chromebook only has 16gb ssd
[15:59:59] <physkets> Upgrading only Kodi without upgrading its dependencies might be bad
[16:00:22] <Kjeldmis> Remember to downgrade any dependencies aswell, or you will get conflicts
[16:00:22] <physkets> you should do a 'pacman -Syu'
[16:00:37] <SirJackHoff> Well i am going to upgrade both kodi and the dependencies. And then downgrade if needed.
[16:00:57] <Kjeldmis> physkets: err.. no.
[16:01:04] <physkets> but the command you wrote will not do that
[16:01:14] <physkets> Kjeldmis: why not?
[16:02:03] <SirJackHoff> well i could do pacman -Rs kodi, and then pacman -S kodi first, that way it will have to install the dependencies.
[16:02:22] <Kjeldmis> SirJackHoff: you would need to downgrade the dependencies each at a time with pacman -U aswell. If all fails, you can restore to a image snapshot of the mirrors
[16:02:26] <SirJackHoff> As long as i do not delete the .kodi file in the home folder I will not lose my data.
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[16:02:34] <Kjeldmis> SirJackHoff: that wouldnt work
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[16:03:06] <Kjeldmis> the version you want isnt in the repos anymore.
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[16:03:19] <SirJackHoff> But it is in my local cache.
[16:03:23] <Kjeldmis> y
[16:03:27] <Kjeldmis> exactly
[16:03:36] <Kjeldmis> pacman -S queries the mirrors
[16:03:40] <Kjeldmis> not ur cache
[16:03:45] <Kjeldmis> pacman -U does.
[16:03:52] <SirJackHoff> so pacman -U kodi?
[16:04:07] <Kjeldmis> pacman -U  /var/cache/pacman/pkg/packagename
[16:04:22] <physkets> SirJackHoff: doing a '-Rs' may not remove all the deps, because some of them may be deps of other packages
[16:04:39] <Kjeldmis> dont, for the love of god do a -Rs
[16:04:42] <Kjeldmis> ...
[16:04:45] <SirJackHoff> Lol
[16:05:12] <SirJackHoff> I should just install manjaro again on a small partition and test to see if it works.
[16:05:19] <Kjeldmis> downgrade the packages, using -U. if you screw up, restore use a image snapshot of the mirrors
[16:05:47] <SirJackHoff> But i guess that wouldnt b any fun :)
[16:05:50] <physkets> I would advise against all of this
[16:05:58] <physkets> because kodi has a huge dep list
[16:06:09] <Kjeldmis> .....
[16:06:15] <physkets> Check it your self
[16:06:20] <physkets> pacman -Qi kodi
[16:06:42] <SirJackHoff> Well if worst comes to worst I will just finally have to change my nvidia-settings to only output at 23.97 instead of taking the easy way out with "sync playback to display" in kodi
[16:06:45] <Kjeldmis> SirJackHoff: if the dependency list is very long, restore to an image snapshot of the mirrors instead
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[16:07:28] <Kjeldmis> its pretty easy, there is a guide to it here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Linux_Archive#How_to_restore_all_packages_to_a_specific_date if in doubt, feel free to ask.
[16:07:29] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/gYGCo1] Arch Linux Archive - ArchWiki
[16:07:29] <SirJackHoff> that is a decent amount of dependencies physkets
[16:07:47] <physkets> Yes, you'll have to go back to a previous state completely, not just rollback kodi and its deps
[16:08:04] <Kjeldmis> you dont have to.
[16:08:10] <physkets> yea, well, some of those deps look like they're things used by lots of other packages
[16:08:12] <Kjeldmis> but it could be easier
[16:09:07] <SirJackHoff> Well i appreciate the help
[16:09:36] <Kjeldmis> remember to back up your pacman.conf before u edit it
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[16:09:58] <SirJackHoff> good call
[16:10:01] <Kjeldmis> you would need it to go back to recieving updates once the issue in kodi is fixed.
[16:10:49] <Kjeldmis> you can, also just exclude kodi from updates
[16:11:04] <Kjeldmis> and then update the rest.
[16:12:59] <SirJackHoff> You guys are just a plethora of knowledge
[16:13:15] <SirJackHoff> I wish I knew more
[16:13:40] <Kjeldmis> It takes time :).
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[16:13:50] <shanky0943> Hi all,
[16:13:50] <shanky0943> I am new to Manjaro i3 linux.
[16:13:50] <shanky0943> and i am facing issue with keyborad while using menus(all three dmenu, bmenu and morc_menu).
[16:13:50] <shanky0943> its working fine while in live flash,
[16:13:50] <shanky0943> I tried reinstalling, but same prob.
[16:14:11] <shanky0943> can someone please help me with this ??
[16:14:36] <physkets> Kjeldmis SirJackHoff Again, that would be a bad idea... because it's deps get updated...
[16:15:06] <Kjeldmis> u would ofc need to exclude the deps aswell.
[16:15:19] <SirJackHoff> So do you think that kodi v16 will not work with newer dependnecy packages?
[16:15:20] <physkets> and what about the dep's deps?
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[16:15:36] <physkets> and the other packages that depedn on those deps?
[16:15:39] <Kjeldmis> physkets: they wont be updated.
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[16:16:15] <Kjeldmis> SirJackHoff: they might work just fine
[16:16:24] <Kjeldmis> Probably, they will work just fine
[16:16:43] <physkets> Kjeldmis: what do you mean they won't be updated?
[16:16:58] <physkets> what commnad would you use to acheive this?
[16:17:16] <Kjeldmis> physkets: I wouldnt use any command
[16:17:30] <Kjeldmis> just add them to pacman.conf's ignore list.
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[16:18:57] <Calinou> hi! first time Manjaro user here, I installed Manjaro KDE (development build, as this is a brand new laptop), very nice so far :)
[16:19:11] <Calinou> hiDPI works after some configuration (it's not enabled by default)
[16:19:21] <Calinou> touch screen works too, same for audio/brightness keys
[16:19:50] <Calinou> the default theme looks good too :)
[16:20:19] <Kjeldmis> Calinou: Its great that it works well for you :). Although, you probably shouldnt be running the dev build
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[16:20:39] <Calinou> unfortunately I had no choice, wi-fi didn't work on older distros...
[16:20:45] <physkets> Kjeldmis: So you'd have to add all its deps, the deps' deps, the deps' deps' deps.....
[16:20:55] <Calinou> (tried Fedora 25, for example)
[16:21:01] <physkets> And any packages that depend on those...
[16:21:08] <physkets> Do you think thats feasibel?
[16:22:07] <physkets> Calinou: but did you try Manjaro's stable branch?
[16:22:08] <Kjeldmis> Calinou: .... Well, you shouldnt run the dev build of manjaro. Run the regular one
[16:22:31] <Calinou> physkets: no, but it was tagged 2016-10, and my laptop was released in 2016-11
[16:22:38] <Kjeldmis> ..
[16:22:52] <Kjeldmis> Calinou: thats not how Manjaro works..
[16:22:57] <Calinou> this laptop has no Ethernet port, so wi-fi *must* work out of the box
[16:23:44] <Kjeldmis> Sure. however, the WiFi device is probably way older than the release date of the laptop
[16:24:10] <Calinou> anyway, do dev builds eventually transition to stable releases once such a release is made?
[16:24:24] <Kjeldmis> no.
[16:24:31] <Kjeldmis> its the other way around
[16:25:01] <Kjeldmis> dev builds dont transition to stable, and Manjaro is rolling release.
[16:25:15] <Calinou> well, what's the difference then if both are rolling release?
[16:25:27] <Calinou> I mean, the dev build works fine for me, at least right now
[16:26:02] <Kjeldmis> dev builds are for running untested code directly.
[16:27:26] <SirJackHoff> Thanks for the help again everybody. I gotta run. Have a good day.
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[16:28:45] <Kjeldmis> stable is for running tested applications, atleast tested to some extent.
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[16:29:23] <Kjeldmis> physkets: I dont think you understand how the exclude system in pacman works. It is indeed quite feasible.
[16:31:11] <Kjeldmis> Calinou: the dev builds might include experimental changes which will run fine on one system, but crash another.
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[16:33:34] <Kjeldmis> make one system run better, another slower. Stable is, well, stable. In Manjaro the transition period is for some some packages long, others a few days. Although the state and snapshot of the two is never going to be the same, because they are both rolling. I hope that clarifies the difference :)
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[16:39:56] <adriangul> I get an error when I try to update the system: error: target not found: system can someone help me with it ?
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[16:40:48] <Kjeldmis> hi adriangul, can you pastebin the command u use to update the and response ?
[16:40:53] <Kjeldmis> system*
[16:42:37] <adriangul> sudo pacman -Syyu
[16:43:02] <adriangul> adrian@adrian-pc /]$ sudo pacman system -Syyu
[16:43:02] <adriangul> [sudo] password for adrian:
[16:43:02] <adriangul> Sorry, try again.
[16:43:02] <adriangul> [sudo] password for adrian:
[16:43:02] <adriangul> Sorry, try again.
[16:43:03] <adriangul> [sudo] password for adrian:
[16:43:05] <adriangul> :: Synchronizing package databases...
[16:43:07] <adriangul>  core                                                                                   142.9 KiB  1722K/s 00:00 [####################################################################] 100%
[16:43:10] <adriangul>  extra                                                                                 1863.7 KiB  1715K/s 00:01 [####################################################################] 100%
[16:43:13] <adriangul>  community                                                                                4.2 MiB  2038K/s 00:02 [####################################################################] 100%
[16:43:16] <adriangul>  multilib                                                                               190.7 KiB  1851K/s 00:00 [####################################################################] 100%
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[16:43:19] <adriangul> error: target not found: system
[16:43:20] <badbodh> fuck
[16:43:26] <physkets> adriangul: !pastebin
[16:43:28] <Kjeldmis> adriangul: please use a pastebin service
[16:43:33] <physkets> !pastebin
[16:43:33] <Botergos> Please use a pastebin service for large files. Common pastebins include http://hastebin.com/, http://ptpb.pw/, http://pastebin.com/
[16:43:35] <adriangul> oh sorry
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[16:44:15] <adriangul> http://pastebin.com/PaNyumqR
[16:44:16] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/wqywoM] adrian@adrian-pc /]$ sudo pacman system -Syyu  [sudo] password for adrian:   Sor - Pastebin.com
[16:44:54] <badbodh> try -Syyuv
[16:45:11] <badbodh> pastebin the verbose
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[16:46:56] <adriangul> thanks -Syyuv worked! what does it do ?
[16:47:03] <physkets> Kjeldmis: can you give a reference on how it works? I looked at the arch wiki page, it only mentions it; doesn't describe how it handles deps
[16:47:35] <badbodh> adriangul just increases the quantity of text
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[16:47:51] <badbodh> does literally nothing actionable
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[16:48:23] <adriangul> oh k
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[16:56:25] <SirJackHoff> Just wanted to pop back in and say that I said screw it and did a full system upgrade on my media center and kodi is working perfectly :)
[16:56:35] <SirJackHoff> Have a good one everybody!
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[16:58:35] <Kjeldmis> physkets: I dont know any good ressources to explain it in depth, so I will try. Pacman use a very strict query operation for packages. If you have excluded a package named foo with dependency bar, it will not upgrade the bar package, if foo has an explicit dependency. If the dependency is loose, lets say, foo only need version x or higher of bar, then bar is upgraded as it fulfills the criteria set by the excluded package foo.
[16:59:11] <Kjeldmis> These dependencies are set in the PKGBUILDs of the package.
[16:59:53] <Kjeldmis> so, if the developer of foo has done his deps right, then pacman will act accordingly on it.
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[17:00:54] <Kjeldmis> and the same will happen as pacman traverses down the dependency try.
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[17:01:01] <Kjeldmis> try = tree
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[17:01:07] <Kjeldmis> ffs. xD
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[17:18:07] <physkets> Kjeldmis: Ah, I did not know. Thanks :) It is really nice of pacman to do that...
[17:18:29] <Kjeldmis> well. its designed that way.
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[17:27:24] <physkets> nice
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[17:29:00] <adriangul> How to delete files that dont exist ?
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[17:31:45] <mtn> heh
[17:31:57] <scootergrisen> During boot (isolinux) i can select language and keyboard... but the language names are translated to the languages names... but the keyboard list is all english
[17:31:58] <mtn> how to spend money you don't have?
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[17:32:44] <scootergrisen> Banks know how to do that
[17:32:49] <mtn> adriangul, obviously, you can't remove something unless it exists
[17:32:54] <Yoda_> by robbing a bank?
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[17:33:05] <scootergrisen> Loans
[17:33:31] <Yoda_> you pull out a revolver and say please hand me my long term loan
[17:33:52] <Yoda_> :P
[17:34:09] <Yoda_> sorry please continue with your conversation
[17:34:24] * Yoda_ mysteriously disappears
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[17:39:39] <Kjeldmis> adriangul: you pull out a revolver and say: Manjaro please delete files that doesnt exist!
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[17:39:49] <Kjeldmis> :p
[17:39:55] <Kjeldmis> Yoda_: nice one.
[17:40:06] <Yoda_> there ya go you get the picture
[17:40:19] <Yoda_> brute force !
[17:40:29] <Yoda_> delete or I shoot !
[17:40:53] <Kjeldmis> And it better be irrecoverable!
[17:41:12] <Kjeldmis> those files that dont exist
[17:41:16] <Yoda_> lol
[17:41:49] <manjaro-web|9675> hi, i was wondering if anyone might know why or how to get my pcie graphics card working in manjaro, it's a GTX730 2GB.....the thing is my hp motherboard has an onboard nvidia 6150SE 430m chipset that won't disable regardless of what method i try to use to do so......I've had experience with computers since the age of 14 and I'm dumbfounded at this
[17:41:49] <manjaro-web|9675>  point LOL, please help if possible
[17:42:48] <Kjeldmis> manjaro-web|9675: so what are you now? 14 and 1 day?
[17:42:59] <Kjeldmis> Im sorry, Im a horrible person
[17:43:01] <Kjeldmis> :p
[17:43:09] <manjaro-web|9675> 43 :D
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[17:43:42] <manjaro-web|9675> friggin crap hp
[17:43:46] <Yoda_> lol
[17:43:53] <Kjeldmis> so, what does mhwd tell you?
[17:43:59] <flashback> ;)
[17:44:01] <flashback> hiª!
[17:44:11] * flashback plays Light my Fire @ The Doors
[17:44:24] <adriangul> The file or folder file:///home/adrian/Downloads/J�bbs�knadny(3).docx does not exist
[17:44:25] * flashback huggles *!* and then send *!*@* > /dev/null
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[17:44:39] <flashback> sure, howdy?
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[17:44:53] <flashback> adrian then ?
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[17:44:55] <Yoda_> hi
[17:44:58] <flashback> if not exists, not exists
[17:45:12] <Kjeldmis> manjaro-web|9675: what driver has mhwd installed for ur cards
[17:45:17] <flashback> create it ; mkdir ~/Downloads ; mkdir ~/Downloads/jbbs/ etc
[17:45:21] <flashback> and populate
[17:45:24] <flashback> hi Yoda_ !
[17:45:36] <Kjeldmis> and does one of the cards work, or does none of them work?
[17:45:39] <Yoda_> existence is an illusion. me mysteriously disappears once again
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[17:46:35] <manjaro-web|9675> https://thepasteb.in/p/P1hv8jw3KDYul
[17:46:37] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/GbdiQ7] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
[17:47:18] <ankibroke> https://thepasteb.in/p/vghOpY9AQ6yH3
[17:47:19] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/mulNaq] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
[17:47:57] <ankibroke> Fuck, ill repeat myself - anki broke after todays update, anyone ideas on fixing it?
[17:47:59] <manjaro-web|9675> https://thepasteb.in/p/pghQ1V2OGw5IR
[17:48:00] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/PuCIA7] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
[17:48:44] <manjaro-web|9675> all the cards work or should, the newer pcie card i pulled from another working machine
[17:49:11] <Kjeldmis> manjaro-web|9675: no, dummy, I mean does it work as do you get a display from it :)
[17:49:17] <scootergrisen> Where can i report bug about the boot loader? I dont see a place under https://bugs.manjaro.org/index.php?do=toplevel&project=0
[17:49:18] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/aCXRnR] Manjaro Bugtracker::All Projects: Top level view
[17:50:00] <Kjeldmis> I see C61 in that dmesg. Thats probably the internal card right
[17:50:01] <physkets> grub?
[17:50:09] <physkets> scootergrisen: ^
[17:50:23] <manjaro-web|9675> no, that's kinda my point......regardless of what i do the pcie wont do anything aside from run the fan on it which is stupid cause in the other mobo it does perfect
[17:50:29] <scootergrisen> It manjaro not using isolinux with gfxboot?
[17:50:40] <scootergrisen> The first screen the user seens when using ISO file
[17:51:06] <physkets> Oh, the liveUSB? No idea...
[17:51:10] <manjaro-web|9675> yep one of them is the onboard video
[17:51:27] <scootergrisen> I dont know i test the ISO image in Boxes.
[17:51:40] <Kjeldmis> manjaro-web|9675: My guess is Nvidia C61 is the chip on the internal card.
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[17:52:50] <manjaro-web|9675> true but the thing is how to blast it off the earth? LOL
[17:53:01] <manjaro-web|9675> disable it
[17:53:08] <u53r> ankibroke : make sure package kdewebkit installed...if that was working before u can downgrade that app
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[17:53:49] <Kjeldmis> manjaro-web|9675: what does lspci | grep -i vga  reveal?
[17:54:24] <manjaro-web|9675> ok i'm new to linux so how do i find out?
[17:54:46] <Kjeldmis> manjaro-web|9675: by typing it into the terminal
[17:55:07] <ankibroke> u53r: i installlled it and it still doesn't work? what am i supposed to downgrade?
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[17:56:33] <manjaro-web|9675> https://thepasteb.in/p/g5hPOo3nLMPcr
[17:56:34] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/mlqmbY] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
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[17:57:31] <xmodule> hi
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[17:57:51] <manjaro-web|9675> whatever that means, LOL
[17:57:59] <flashback> :D
[17:58:02] <flashback> ._.
[17:58:06] <flashback> \o/
[17:58:09] <Kjeldmis> manjaro-web|9675: OK. time to be specific. if you turn off the system, connect a monitor to it, and turn the system on you get a normal boot splash? can enter BIOS and so?
[17:58:30] <flashback> i want to be a GC member of manjaro
[17:58:40] <flashback> im running manjaro for 4 years xD
[17:58:47] <Kjeldmis> and I mean connect it to the GTX 730 card.
[17:58:50] <flashback> i know there's no GC so create it folks
[17:58:52] <manjaro-web|9675> yes with the onboard video but not the pcie card
[17:59:06] <Kjeldmis> well then
[17:59:11] <Kjeldmis> case closed
[17:59:12] <flashback> and im not a professional but i like it
[17:59:21] <manjaro-web|9675> no not with the GTX 730 i cant do anything
[17:59:29] <flashback> 730 is not GTX more be GT
[17:59:39] <flashback> more likely ;-P
[17:59:42] <Kjeldmis> manjaro-web|9675: Linux doesnt detect the card because it isnt there
[17:59:44] <flashback> but ok i have a 705 :-P
[18:00:16] <Kjeldmis> its either not connected properly to the mainboard, doesnt get enough power, or the card or the motherboard is faulty.
[18:00:22] <manjaro-web|9675> nor does windows....
[18:00:38] <flashback> 730 i guessdoesnt need
[18:00:46] <flashback> PSU power so check your BIOS
[18:00:55] <manjaro-web|9675> faulty board i'd say
[18:01:00] <flashback> could be
[18:01:20] <flashback> but damage a PCI Express for VGA sounds catatrophic
[18:01:37] <flashback> a diminute damage
[18:01:40] <flashback> np
[18:01:44] <flashback> but doesnt work? hell nop
[18:02:12] <manjaro-web|9675> i got a 650 watt psu so idk
[18:02:21] <Kjeldmis> Its probably not the motherboard. PSU or faulty GFX card is my bet.
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[18:02:58] <manjaro-web|9675> ok well how could i test the pcie slot?
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[18:03:14] <d42> different pcie card? :^)
[18:03:15] <Kjeldmis> it can be the motherboard, its just unlikely.
[18:03:51] <d42> if it runs just on pcie provided power it shouldn't be the psu ,_,
[18:03:52] <manjaro-web|9675> crap, it's the only pcie card i've got
[18:04:17] <Kjeldmis> d42: most cards require an external power input
[18:04:37] <d42> 730 isn't most :^)
[18:04:46] <Kjeldmis> this one might, idk.
[18:05:07] <Kjeldmis> its low-end, so maybe not.
[18:05:14] <manjaro-web|9675> that's what i thought too but when i checked the card itself there's no interface for extra power
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[18:05:47] <manjaro-web|9675> i'm gonna triple check and make sure on that
[18:05:53] <xmodule> I'm totally new on manjaro but how should i start my project if i want top put the terminal with top like a background image?
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[18:06:38] <Kjeldmis> xmodule: I didnt catch that, sorry. What are you trying to do again_
[18:06:40] <Kjeldmis> ?
[18:07:15] <manjaro-web|9675> just making sure the gpu has sufficient power
[18:07:32] <xmodule> Kjeldmis:in the terminal if i write "top" so that shows the processes. i want that screen like a backround image
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[18:08:16] <d42> manjaro-web|9675: if your psu isn't extremely chinese it's probably not the issue
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[18:09:22] <Kjeldmis> xmodule: you can use conky for that.
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[18:09:36] <flashback> sup? :p
[18:09:37] <flashback> xD
[18:09:51] <xmodule> Kjeldmis: okey. thanks.
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[18:10:13] <manjaro-web|9675> minimum psu is 300w for GT730
[18:10:44] <manjaro-web|9675> *shoots self in face*
[18:10:58] <Kjeldmis> d42: if the PSU works that is.
[18:11:09] <d42> indeed
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[18:11:51] <Celmor> for some reason nautilus shows different disk usage for selected files than doplhin (off by 7%/6.4G)
[18:11:53] <Yoda_> :(
[18:12:01] <Yoda_> who's going to clean up this mess
[18:12:02] <manjaro-web|9675> i have a backup psu which i've already tried and it's the same deal
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[18:12:10] * Yoda_ whispers not me
[18:12:34] <Kjeldmis> manjaro-web|9675: .... shh... dont tell any1, but its probably the card
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[18:12:54] * Yoda_ didnt hear that
[18:13:22] <manjaro-web|9675> holy crap i havent had the thing a year yet
[18:14:52] <Kjeldmis> good, then there is warranty
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[18:16:46] <ankibroke> Anyone able to help my anki problem?
[18:17:04] <Kjeldmis> ankibroke: sorry, I zoned out
[18:17:15] <Kjeldmis> whats the problem again?
[18:17:20] <ankibroke> https://thepasteb.in/p/vghOpY9AQ6yH3
[18:17:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/mulNaq] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
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[18:18:11] <Celmor> guess I won't use nautilus anymore, it uses the si system (powers of 1000 and not 1024)
[18:18:43] <Kjeldmis> ankibroke: so... ur on kde right?
[18:18:53] <ankibroke> nope, xfce
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[18:19:53] <Kjeldmis> so, is qt5-webkit installed?
[18:20:12] <ankibroke> y
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[18:21:04] <Kjeldmis> try installing qtwebkit from the AUR
[18:22:46] <ankibroke> installed
[18:22:50] <ankibroke> alrdy i mean
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[18:22:54] <ezfox> ankibroke: is python-pyqt4 installed ?
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[18:23:29] <ankibroke> aha
[18:23:31] <bast__manjaro> hello there
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[18:23:39] <ankibroke> apparently upgraded from 4 to 5
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[18:24:07] <ezfox> mh...the pastebin asks for PyQt4.QtWebkit
[18:24:21] <ankibroke> ezfox: still not working though and same errors
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[18:24:33] <bast__manjaro> please, a quick question. I'd like to try KDE from my manjaro xfce. But is $sudo pacman -S kde kdeplasma-applets-plasma-nm the way to go with the plasma5 update?
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[18:25:22] <manjaroCinnamon> Hey guys, quick newbie question about file permissions...
[18:25:37] <manjaroCinnamon> Downloaded and installed the latest update, everything went well.
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[18:26:05] <manjaroCinnamon> Just got a message saying that some files to do with network manager had 777 permissions, and the new package (I think) changed it to 755.
[18:26:28] <manjaroCinnamon> Out of curiosity, I checked and found quite a few 777 files.
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[18:26:54] <manjaroCinnamon> Worth locking them all down? If so, how do I without loosing accessibility/usability?
[18:29:44] <physkets> bast__manjaro: Nope... it is a little more complicated than that; Just check the forum. I'm sure someone's already asked exactly that
[18:30:28] <manjaroCinnamon> I've done a bit reading up alright. I think my umask is actually set to create them with 755.
[18:30:51] <manjaroCinnamon> One folder is set to 777 because it has my backgrounds in it, which didn't seem to work with higher permissions.
[18:31:41] <bast__manjaro> physkets, thx! i was wondering if i should just dl & install directly the manjaro kde version to avoid having any issue, would you recommend it ?
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[18:32:15] <physkets> using a liveUSB of the KDE version to test it out first would be best
[18:32:32] <physkets> if you like it, replace your Xfce
[18:34:27] <bast__manjaro> well i'd like to avoid being the boring guy who would go on that switch road : Q1: How do I install Desktop X unto my Desktop Y? Q2 Based on a myriad of other user posts on the same topic line, I predict the follow-up questions will be...Q2: My Desktop X doesn't look right. How do I fix that?Q3: My Desktop Y apps don't show up. How come?Q4: Now that my system is totally messed up, how do I fix it?Q5: How do I uninstall Desktop X? etc etc
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[18:35:00] <bast__manjaro> that's why i thought about just reinstalling my system, as i'm quite used to it anyway
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[18:38:49] <flashback> huh
[18:38:52] <flashback> huh huh :P
[18:39:22] <bast__manjaro> hh
[18:39:29] <ankibroke> Is my anki declared dead by now? could use it on win but with no progress
[18:40:29] <flashback> hhhhh
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[18:41:56] <flashback> lololol
[18:42:14] <physkets> bast__manjaro: sure... I just suggested the liveboot so you can try it before you fry it
[18:42:44] <bast__manjaro> physkets, ah ok i see, ok downloading right now, thx for your advices
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[18:55:46] <Calinou> is there a way to dumbly upscale an entire app? Steam is tiny on hiDPI display, and it doesn't support hiDPI
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[18:56:59] <physkets> what Desktop Environ?
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[18:57:29] <ankibroke> RIP Anki 2017-2017
[18:57:46] <physkets> Calinou: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI
[18:57:47] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/shudtY] HiDPI - ArchWiki
[18:58:00] <Calinou> yeah, just found this by searching
[18:58:01] <Calinou> I'm on KDE
[18:58:06] <Calinou> other apps are scaled fine
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[18:59:02] <physkets> other apps? What is not scaled?
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[19:00:12] <Calinou> physkets: Steam isn't scaled, but KDE apps are
[19:01:11] <physkets> I don't have steam, but there's no reason for it to not be scaled.
[19:01:27] <Calinou> Steam does not have hiDPI support currently
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[19:01:31] <Calinou> (at least on Windows and Linux)
[19:01:37] <physkets> What's you screen size, rolution, and the scale factor?
[19:01:41] <Calinou> on Windows it'll be upscaled and blurry, on Linux it won't
[19:01:49] <Calinou> 3840x2160 on 13.9", DPI scale 2.0
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[19:02:45] <physkets> I don't think the apps themselves need any support for scaling  (of course other than rendering in high-enough res.) ... KDE will just 'scale' them anyway
[19:03:02] <Calinou> they do need support...
[19:03:12] <physkets> Oh, I didn't know
[19:03:13] <Calinou> and Linux does not seem to be able to upscale non-compliant apps :(
[19:03:16] <Calinou> unlike Windows
[19:03:33] <physkets> Does Steam use a gtk based gui or a qt based one?
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[19:03:38] <Calinou> neither, it's a custom system
[19:03:41] <Calinou> and that's what causes all trouble :)
[19:03:54] <Calinou> if an app goes the custom route, they need to add support themselves
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[19:10:23] <Calinou> nope, installing the Metro theme + the unofficial patch only slightly scales up text, not enough
[19:10:28] <Calinou> and most elements remain tiny
[19:10:46] <boudiccas> i've just installed manjaro, after several years on debian, but i need more up-to-date software than debian provided. anyway, my previous script for tmux worked under debian, but isn't working now. it comes up with all the new panes, but im unable to click on any of them with the mouse. how do i get that functionality please?
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[19:35:17] <b0n> linux has a problem with what we call hidpi
[19:35:40] <b0n> im using a display that has hidpi and i have problems with scaling too
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[20:07:06] <Neoack> hi
[20:07:21] <Neoack> i need some help please with manjaro
[20:08:10] <Neoack> some body ?
[20:08:31] <xabbu> Neoack, just ask
[20:08:58] <Neoack> yep i have asus l200 and Manjaro dont detect my sound card
[20:09:29] <Neoack> aplay -l no sound card
[20:09:52] <Neoack> i test lspci and no audio
[20:09:58] <Neoack> solution ?
[20:10:10] <Neoack> please
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[20:11:42] <Neoack> sorry but my englsih is so bad i m french
[20:12:40] <xabbu> Neoack, you can try a newer Kernel and find out what soundship is is and if it is supported by linux
[20:13:32] <akarst> Neoack: did you try "inxi -A"?
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[20:17:03] <Neoack> Audio:     Card Failed to Detect Sound Card! Sound: ALSA v: k4.4.48-1-MANJARO for inxi -A
[20:17:42] <Neoack> newer kernel i thought my manjaro install is today then new kernel or not ?
[20:18:53] <akarst> sudo pacman -S linux49
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[20:19:53] <Neoack> i try
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[20:21:59] <Neoack> ok its installed i reboot i be back
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[20:25:07] <akarst> Drumroll...
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[20:25:50] <Neoack> https://thepasteb.in/p/76hE48J74JVfV
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[20:25:51] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/GXSw6W] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
[20:26:11] <Neoack> uname -r its ok for nex kernel but no sound card
[20:26:50] <akarst> Neoack: do you have the exact model number of your laptop?
[20:27:18] <akarst> The sound card works in Windows? Or other distros?
[20:27:42] <xabbu> Neoack, you should really find out witch soundcard it is
[20:28:13] <xabbu> *which
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[20:29:03] <physkets> akarst Neoack preferable use the 'mhwd-kernel' utility to install a new kernel
[20:29:30] <akarst> physkets: what would be the difference in this case?
[20:29:46] <Neoack> laptode modele is ASUS PC Portable L200HA-FD0095T
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[20:30:07] <xabbu> it install also needed extramoduls
[20:30:11] <Neoack> sound card is works on windows 10 but no linux
[20:30:18] <Neoack> how
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[20:32:22] <akarst> Neoack: perhaps you should boot into Windows and note down the exact type of sound card and driver
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[20:32:58] <Neoack> lol but i install manjaro on windows no windows now ...
[20:33:11] <xabbu> Neoack, please show the output of lsmod via pastbin
[20:33:27] <xabbu> and lspci
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[20:33:59] <Neoack> https://thepasteb.in/p/r0hwPkGqo8oCK lsmod
[20:34:01] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jWKu4a] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
[20:34:37] <Neoack> https://thepasteb.in/p/GZhWKDQ77qyiV lspci
[20:34:38] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/zu36Wq] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
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[20:34:51] <duc_synth80> hey guys. i tried installing manjaro twice in the past hour. both times i got an error which said manjaro cannot set hardware clock and that hwclock exited with error code 70
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[20:35:51] <duc_synth80> and the whole installation fails because of that
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[20:39:03] <Neoack> duc_synth80: try this thread https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=153549
[20:39:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/27csGm] [SOLVED] System time is +4hrs from hardware clock / Newbie Corner / Arch Linux Forums
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[20:41:33] <xabbu> Neoack, it looks a little bit like this quite new Chip is not detected by the kernel
[20:41:49] <duc_synth80> Neoack, i get: cannot access the hardware clock via any know method
[20:42:09] <Neoack> ok then i wait new kernel to patch the problem
[20:42:58] <Neoack> on your bios are secure boot ? if you are that disable this secure boot
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[20:44:36] <duc_synth80> Neoack, one thing i've noticed is that the time in bios settings is wrong
[20:45:07] <Neoack> yep and change clock of bios its possible ?
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[20:45:37] <duc_synth80> i tried but it changes back by itself
[20:46:20] <vassilismavridis> Hello, Does anyone know why I am getting “Failed to load ldlinux.c32 Boot failed press any key to retry ? Virtualbox manjaro netinstall
[20:46:52] <Neoack> its lapdop or desktop pc ?
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[20:47:25] <duc_synth80> Neoack, you asking me?
[20:47:31] <vassilismavridis> Neoack: or me?
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[20:47:45] <Neoack> duc
[20:47:50] <duc_synth80> it's a laptop
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[20:47:58] <duc_synth80> pc*
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[20:48:35] <duc_synth80> Neoack, it's a desktop pc.. sorry
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[20:49:21] <Neoack> vassilismavridis: you're image is bad miss ldlinux.c32
[20:49:58] <Neoack> duc_synth80:  you cant change bios clock ?
[20:50:34] <duc_synth80> Neoack, well, i tried once but it changes back to old settings
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[20:51:26] <duc_synth80> Neoack, i set clock to 21:50 in the bios settings and when i load the manjaro live usb it says 19:50..
[20:51:31] <Neoack> and if you save change this old clock is conserved ?
[20:51:40] <duc_synth80> yes
[20:52:27] <Neoack> ho ok you selected bad region in install no ?
[20:52:50] <duc_synth80> no, i selected the region i'm in right now
[20:53:22] <Neoack> ok then this bios clock is bad
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[20:53:35] <duc_synth80> yea, it seems..
[20:53:57] <vassilismavridis> Neoack: Just checked the shasum, it’s ok. I’ve downloaded the iso from here https://manjaro.org/get-manjaro   -   Isn’t it strange?
[20:54:00] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/8AApPN] Get Manjaro | Manjaro Linux
[20:54:24] <Neoack> shasum verified just signature test checksum
[20:55:04] <Neoack> duc_synth80: try install with region to 21H5à and after install change
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[20:56:04] <duc_synth80> i tried that..
[20:56:19] <duc_synth80> i tried using all defaults which i think was berlin as a default region
[20:56:21] <Neoack> and ?
[20:56:28] <duc_synth80> same error
[20:56:48] <duc_synth80> installation almost finished.. and hwclock error appears
[20:57:44] <duc_synth80> Neoack, funny thing is, $(date) in a terminal reported the right time, while in the panel it appeared to be wrong..
[20:58:14] <Neoack> do you change date on terminal ?
[20:58:14] <xabbu> Neoack, some info on your problem but it is not looking good. "it's not going to land in the kernel before 4.12" https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115531
[20:58:19] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/h24oQD] 115531 – Missing codec driver cx2072x, add support for it
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[20:58:38] <duc_synth80> Neoack, i didn't change anything
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[20:58:50] <duc_synth80> just fetched the current date and time with the date command
[20:59:12] <Neoack> xabbu this bug is corriged ?
[20:59:21] <duc_synth80> which was quite accurate as opposed to the panel's
[21:00:10] <Neoack> try another iso image maybe problem is iso image
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[21:00:40] <duc_synth80> Neoack, maybe it's because it's a 10-year old PC..
[21:01:03] <duc_synth80> Neoack, never upgrade BIOS(am i supposed to?)
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[21:02:08] <xabbu> Neoack, I am to 75% sure, look with journalctl for something like this: intel_sst_acpi 808622A8:00: No matching machine driver found
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[21:03:03] <rhg135> You could do the install manually
[21:03:11] <rhg135> It's worth it
[21:04:13] <Neoack> duc no bios upgrade
[21:06:08] <Neoack> xabbu how to fixe this patch on github
[21:06:51] <rhg135> He left
[21:07:03] <vassilismavridis> Neoack: verifying the sig I got this: http://pastebin.com/BQhP63cz      It’s not ok ?
[21:07:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Am43Ls] gpg: assuming signed data in `./manjaro-net-16.08-x86_64.iso'  gpg: Signature ma - Pastebin.com
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[21:07:57] <Neoack> vassilismavridis: not certified signature test another iso
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[21:09:45] <vassilismavridis> Thank you very much - I just want to mention that the iso has been downloaded from https://manjaro.org/get-manjaro/    in case this is an issue for the mainteners
[21:09:47] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/7oQpre] Get Manjaro | Manjaro Linux
[21:10:50] <Neoack> maybe download is corrupted download another iso and test if problem not fixed be back
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[21:13:36] <Neoack> solution on my probleme ?
[21:13:45] <xabbu> Neoack, it is not recommended, you need to build your own kernel, patch the source with all pachtes in https://github.com/openlab-aux/vuizvui/tree/master/modules/hardware/t100ha
[21:13:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/HkrP0N] vuizvui/modules/hardware/t100ha at master · openlab-aux/vuizvui · GitHub
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[21:14:12] <Neoack> yep is critical lol i dont break my kernel
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[21:15:17] <rhg135> You won't break it if you do it right and the people who made these are perfect :P
[21:15:19] <xabbu> it looks like it is for 4.9.4, so you can try this version or use 4.9.10 but it the pachtes might not work
[21:16:15] <Neoack> yep
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[21:19:15] <Neoack> rhg135: i dont understand my english is so bad lol
[21:20:16] <xabbu> Neoack, just keep a working kernel installed
[21:20:16] <Neoack> if i upgrate my kernel maybe fix the problème
[21:20:21] <rhg135> I completely understand that lol, Neoack, I mean patches can be buggy too
[21:20:43] <rhg135> They can break even if you do things right
[21:20:55] <Neoack> lol sorry i m frog eater lol
[21:21:27] <rhg135> Now, I'm the one who's lost lol
[21:21:47] <Neoack> lol
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[21:23:41] <akarst> rhg135: it means french :)
[21:23:54] <rhg135> Ah, thx
[21:24:27] <Neoack> yes french eat frog lloll but it's not good lololol i prefer burger ;-)
[21:24:49] <akarst> I saw "The French Connection" with Gene Hackman yesterday, they talked about frogs all the time :)
[21:25:33] <Neoack> lol all french dont eat the frog lol
[21:26:11] <manjaro-kde5--> i don't eat frogs, i am french
[21:26:24] <rhg135> My French is horrible so I completely understand being in a room that speeks a language you can barely understand
[21:26:52] <Neoack> lol enfin un français cela fait du bien
[21:27:06] <Neoack> my english is basics
[21:27:27] <manjaro-kde5--> je ne pense pas qu'il soit possible d'écrire en francais sur ce canal
[21:27:37] <b0n> i heard frog legs are delicious
[21:27:53] <rhg135> Je ne comprends pas
[21:28:36] <Neoack> b0n lol and escargot ?
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[21:29:46] <rhg135> manjaro-kde5--: you can just nobody will answer you because few understand it here lol
[21:30:03] <Neoack> lol englsih universel langage lol
[21:30:25] <rhg135> I know, it's weird
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[21:30:59] <rhg135> English is not a sane language, how it got so prominent I'll never get
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[21:31:32] <Neoack> yep
[21:31:46] <b0n> english is shit
[21:31:53] <b0n> and thats coming from someone whose spoken it their whole life
[21:32:21] <b0n> fucking silent k's and "PH" and TH and "tion"
[21:32:41] <akarst> Good thing I wasn't born in France, I can't speak a word of French!
[21:32:57] <akarst> instantrimshot.com
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[21:33:27] <BugzBunny> LOL, I just block my phone via firewall, I let my neighbor use it, it's VOIP with minutes.. I have very little minutes left pff
[21:33:32] <Neoack> for my problème i try upgrade kernel my version is 4.9.9 i try 4.9.10 or maybe 4.10RC8
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[21:39:36] <akarst> Neoack: I would not bother upgrading the kernel now
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[21:45:20] <b0n> my linux professor said..
[21:45:25] <b0n> never upgrade your kernel unless you have to
[21:47:02] <b0n> Total Download Size:    807.46 MiB
[21:47:05] <b0n> this is a huge update..
[21:47:09] <xabbu> Neoack, I don't think 4.10 is solution of your problem, stay with 4.9 and perhaps try looking for different patches that might work. Search for cx2072x or 808622A8
[21:47:48] <b0n> 4.10 is an rc so, i dont recommend using it
[21:48:09] <xabbu> but I think you need to patch and build your own kernel at this point
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[21:50:54] <Neoack> with uname is 4.9.9 with sudo mhwd-kernel -i linux36
[21:50:54] <Neoack> i test 4.9.10 and i be back
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[21:51:34] <akarst> He did it anyway :)
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[21:52:07] <Neoack> wait i use pacman for install other soft i wait to pfinsh
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[21:58:39] <xabbu> did someone received the new Thunar 1.6.11 with the last upgrade?
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[21:59:59] <Strit_Laptop> omg
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[22:00:37] <Strit_Laptop> IOStream: Refrain from doing that in te future.
[22:00:45] <IOStream> sorry
[22:00:49] <IOStream> but its pretty
[22:00:51] <IOStream> no ?
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[22:01:03] <Strit_Laptop> not really. :)
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[22:01:10] <IOStream> sorry.
[22:01:21] <akarst> Thunar 1.6.10 here
[22:03:17] <xabbu> the txt link in philms blog post suggested 1.6.11 https://gist.githubusercontent.com/philmmanjaro/7982edda35d9a38cd31f6912c25a0cb1/raw/5aa7bd8e30e8901d465901d6747d296950ecbcbc/boxit-stable-2017-02-17.txt
[22:03:18] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/HgA9E2] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)
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[22:15:35] <neoack> re
[22:15:54] <neoack> upgrade kernel not solved the problème
[22:16:35] <xabbu> neoack, How did you upgrade?
[22:17:10] <neoack> kernel my sound card is'nt detected on manjaro
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[22:18:10] <b0n> use pacman -Syyu
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[22:18:26] <xabbu> neoack, i meant how did you upgrade your kernel
[22:19:37] <neoack> with mhwd-kernel -i
[22:20:10] <neoack> b0n with this all is update
[22:20:47] <b0n> yea, that updates the kernel as well
[22:21:54] <vonquack> is there a default manjaro that received more attention than the other versions? are the xfce/kde versions setup with the exact same custom controls ?
[22:22:08] <neoack> yea but no sound card
[22:22:23] <xabbu> neoack, as i said, there is no kernel at the moment that supports your Intel Chip. Just upgrade will not help.
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[22:23:48] <neoack> xabbu ok i must wait other version
[22:23:58] <neoack> its just solution
[22:23:59] <neoack> ?
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[22:27:07] <xabbu> neoack, yes but there is that bug report https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115531 one post mentioned a github repo withe some patches these might help if you know how to build your own kernel
[22:27:12] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/h24oQD] 115531 – Missing codec driver cx2072x, add support for it
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[22:30:12] <neoack> xabbu i don know how build my kernel....
[22:32:02] <neoack> thank all for the help
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[22:33:38] <akarst> neoack: it's been a crazy ride
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[22:33:50] <akarst> neoack: but we had some good times!
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[22:34:09] <neoack> lol
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[22:37:57] <neoack> bye all
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[22:53:29] <manjaro-web|5399> Hello!
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[22:54:25] <manjaro-web|5399> How can I see the HTTPS cert. details better when I hover over the green padlock?
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[22:54:59] <manjaro-web|5399> The thing that pops up when I hover over the green padlock sorta camouflages with the default Firefox theme.
[22:55:15] <manjaro-web|5399> In that they're both black background.
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[22:56:33] <xabbu> manjaro-web|5399, Did you try to click on it?
[22:56:42] <manjaro-web|5399> I did.
[22:56:53] <manjaro-web|5399> I think I know where this is going :D
[22:57:02] <yans> manjaro-web|5399, RMB -> View page info?
[22:57:31] <manjaro-web|5399> I think it'd be really great if people can see the details just as clearly as when you click the padlock.
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[22:57:49] <akarst> manjaro-web|5399: wouldn't that depend on your desktop theme?
[22:58:08] <akarst> manjaro-web|5399: it's perfectly readable here...
[22:58:12] <manjaro-web|5399> Yeah.
[22:58:26] <manjaro-web|5399> But wouldn't it be nicer if people could see it clearly by default?
[22:58:38] <manjaro-web|5399> Especially for newbies?
[22:58:47] <manjaro-web|5399> That they don't have to tweak stuff?
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[22:59:05] <akarst> manjaro-web|5399: Yeah, I agree :)
[23:00:14] <manjaro-web|5399> akarst: ;)
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[23:01:05] <xabbu> manjaro-web|5399, of course but the info in the hover is quite little and for many users not really helpful
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[23:04:01] <manjaro-web|5399> But for those who click on the padlock more often than not, it'd be really nice for them for that hover-over details to be visible as how I'm asking it to be. Because you know, those clickity-click people at times become lazy :)
[23:04:29] <manjaro-web|5399> This isn't to promote lousy security posture or something like that :)
[23:04:36] <manjaro-web|5399> But I thought it'd just be nice to have.
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