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[01:34:43] <feersad> hi
[01:34:52] <feersad> i need help pls
[01:35:04] <mtn> feersad: ask question
[01:35:31] <feersad> i kant update ou kde 16.10...21
[01:36:05] <mtn> feersad: what are you trying to update?
[01:36:15] <feersad> yes
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[01:36:34] <mtn> feersad: no. WHAT are you trying to update?
[01:36:38] <feersad> but its done rong and its end with same conflict
[01:37:00] <feersad> manjaro kde
[01:37:20] <mtn> feersad: how does your update fail?
[01:37:27] <feersad> 16.10 Fringilla
[01:38:48] <feersad> https://thepasteb.in/p/Z4hPrZN3kRkIG
[01:38:54] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/eOCgBH] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
[01:39:45] <mtn> feersad: remove that file  like it tells you to do
[01:40:14] <feersad> im now in linox ,,,help whow do it
[01:40:33] <mtn> feersad: do you see the file name in the error?
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[01:41:24] <mtn> feersad: in a terminal: sudo rm filename
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[01:42:00] <feersad> https://thepasteb.in/p/2RhKPqwmXxRh4
[01:42:00] <feersad> db.lck
[01:42:01] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Q8ua27] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
[01:42:04] <feersad> ???
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[01:45:04] <feersad> help
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[01:50:26] <feersad> manjaro kde
[01:50:30] <feersad> ???
[01:51:55] <u53r> feersad: in terminal paste this>> sudo rm /var/lib/pacman/db.lck
[01:52:32] <feersad> done
[01:52:41] <feersad> and naw?
[01:52:52] <feersad> for update the system
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[01:52:53] <u53r> may get back to what u were doing
[01:53:02] <u53r> sudo pacman -Syyu
[01:54:52] <feersad> i hope afther that my system be betther
[01:55:12] <feersad> afther update
[01:55:19] <feersad> 10x all
[01:55:37] <u53r> dont keep too much expectations :P
[01:55:50] <feersad> whay?
[01:56:08] <DannyFritz> Which desktop environments do people like here?
[01:56:34] <feersad> doal core 2.8 3 gb
[01:58:10] <u53r> plasma is the future ;)
[01:58:27] <feersad> manjaro plasma?
[01:59:20] <u53r> feersad: yup desktop environment is graphical interface u choose
[02:00:26] <rhg135> plasma, behold!
[02:00:43] <feersad> 86_64
[02:02:01] <u53r> feersad: mate that's your system architecture that means u on 64 bit system
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[02:02:26] <feersad> i dont know
[02:02:58] <feersad> im win 32 or 64 its fine
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[02:06:35] <feersad> by
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[02:07:36] <BugzBunny2> I starting to Like my RX 480
[02:08:18] <BugzBunny2> Well optimised games and high settings with Powersave GPU produce some decent peformance and looks amazing... hmmmm
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[03:23:32] <prueba> Hola, hi world  from manjaro deepin edition
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[03:25:17] <manjaro-kde5> hi, i updated to the latest kernel and now there is no option in grub to boot into windows
[03:25:27] <manjaro-kde5> can anyone help me with this>
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[03:28:29] <imnofox> you'll have to add the menu entry back
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[03:29:04] <imnofox> you can do that pretty easily with the grub-customizer program
[03:30:22] <manjaro-kde5> there's no such thing on the system
[03:30:39] <manjaro-kde5> nor such a package
[03:30:41] <imnofox> you can install it from the AUR
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[03:31:35] <manjaro-kde5> right, but isn't there some command
[03:31:39] <manjaro-kde5> that does the same?
[03:31:46] <BugzBunny2> update-grub?
[03:31:56] <manjaro-kde5> my pc compiles slowly
[03:32:07] <manjaro-kde5> so if there is any command, that would be prefered
[03:32:15] <BugzBunny2> Maybe he has me on ignore
[03:32:18] <imnofox> i'm afraid i'm not very familiar with the commands to do it
[03:32:19] <BugzBunny2> >.>
[03:32:38] <manjaro-kde5> i haven't ignored you, why would i do that
[03:32:43] <manjaro-kde5> should i just run update-grub?
[03:32:57] <BugzBunny2> That will probe your system of OS
[03:33:07] <BugzBunny2> and update /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[03:34:05] <BugzBunny2> Technically, when you update the Kernel, that's what installer does automatically, if that command doesn't find Windows.. You have a _bigger_ problem
[03:36:21] <manjaro-kde5> it seems it found it
[03:36:28] <manjaro-kde5> it did say something about windows in there
[03:36:57] <manjaro-kde5> also, another question for you guys
[03:37:09] <manjaro-kde5> i've noticed that transferring stuff to USB is faster on Windows
[03:37:17] <manjaro-kde5> shouldn't it be the other way around?
[03:37:59] <manjaro-kde5> when i copy something the progress bar finishes very fast
[03:38:10] <manjaro-kde5> but when i click to remove the usb, i have to wait a long long time
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[03:39:49] <BugzBunny2> Wait what, this is a Windows question or a Linux question?
[03:40:46] <BugzBunny2> BTW, likely, the contents got written to Write Cache (RAM) and Windows will periodically write to the USB
[03:41:08] <BugzBunny2> What's happening, when you unmounting it, Windows is FLUSHING the write cache to USB
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[03:42:13] <BugzBunny2> Linux does the same thing, it just depends on how the Kernel is tuned
[03:43:56] <ntwilly> Hey guys, Im on Kernal 4.9.4_rt2-1. My laptop screen seems to be flickering constantly, and I've decided now that I dont feel like putting up with it haha.
[03:44:17] <ntwilly> Anyone have any ideas? I have a nvidia cart, and bumblebee is installed
[03:45:06] <ntwilly> its odd because when I move my mouse, it doesnt flicker!
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[03:45:50] <ntwilly> I take that back. It does
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[04:05:31] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[04:08:39] <BugzBunny2> yo
[04:12:38] <luuuciano> there is any way to isolate hdd badblocks?
[04:14:18] <BugzBunny2> If you spare good blocks on the HDD
[04:14:31] <BugzBunny2> That's done by the HDD Firmware
[04:14:58] <BugzBunny2> You can run smartctl full-test.. to update the Firmware about the state of each block on the disk
[04:15:15] <luuuciano> when bad blocks are found are marked and never used again?
[04:15:19] <BugzBunny2> Probably could do it via Filesystem, but at this point, it's better to just replace the drive
[04:15:30] <BugzBunny2> luuuciano, By the HDD Firmware
[04:15:33] <BugzBunny2> yes
[04:15:40] <BugzBunny2> If YOU have spare GOOD blocks
[04:16:21] <BugzBunny2> The HDD reserves spare GOOD blocks just these kings of things; however if you run out of GOOD spare blocks. Then you out of luck
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[04:22:19] <luuuciano> BugzBunny, thanks! did not know it... this is a little hdd to see movies on TV, will see what happens... until it burnsssssssss
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[04:28:14] <BugzBunny2> luuuciano, Run smartctl full-test
[04:28:37] <BugzBunny2> If you see, PASSED, GOOD, OK, even if there is badblocks.. the HDD is GOOD
[04:29:08] <BugzBunny2> If you get, PRE-FAIL, FAIL, BAD... Backup and replace the HDD
[04:29:47] <BugzBunny2> IIRC, there is a smartctl service that can run periodically and send E-Mails or alert via notification
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[06:11:51] <manjaro-web|5596> Hii I have a problem. I was playing Silent Hill then I stopped playing but the resolution in my pc change and right now i see too close the items in my laptop
[06:12:11] <manjaro-web|5596> I want my normal resolution in my screen
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[06:19:39] <manjaro-web|5596> someone knows how to change the resolution of the screen in manjaro?
[06:21:14] <manjaro-web|7133> hello, I have manjaro 17 beta 3 and the flash player in firefox 51 keeps freezing with the wheel spinning.
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[06:23:15] <manjaro-web|7133> for the screen resolution, open the menu, go to display and then change the resolution.
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[06:24:53] <manjaro-web|7133> Is there a problem with manjaro 17 beta 3 and flash or is it a problem with firefox 51
[06:25:16] <manjaro-web|5596> and then
[06:25:51] <manjaro-web|7133> click the resolution you want and hit apply
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[06:26:52] <manjaro-web|7133> I have tired multiple kernels with manjaro 17 beta 3 and the flash freezes in all of them.
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[06:28:40] <manjaro-web|5596> It works thanks
[06:28:45] <manjaro-web|5596> haha
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[06:29:16] <manjaro-web|5596> I dont a clue what are you talking about. Sorry i cant help you
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[06:33:51] <manjaro-web|5596> https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Problems-with-add-ons-plugins-or/Adobe-Flash-plugin-has-crashed-Prevent-it-from-happening-again/ta-p/3055
[06:33:59] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/IZw3oU] Adobe Flash plugin has crashed - Prevent it from h... - Mozilla Support Community
[06:34:31] <manjaro-web|5596> mayhaps if you read this page would help you
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[06:41:02] <BugzBunny2> What browser [00:26:52] <manjaro-web|7133> I have tired multiple kernels with manjaro 17 beta 3 and the flash freezes in all of them.?
[06:41:47] <manjaro-web|7133> firefox 51.0.1 64bit
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[06:44:39] <BugzBunny2> Do me a favor, can you change your nick
[06:45:01] <BugzBunny2> I not going to make effort to discern who 'manjaro-web' is talking
[06:45:29] <BugzBunny2> If you know who to do it, type '/nick yourflavournick'
[06:45:40] <BugzBunny2> If you do not know*
[06:47:33] <BugzBunny2> Whelp, you don't need any help
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[06:50:06] <BugzBunny2> Firefox does not come with Flash in Linux
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[06:51:04] <BugzBunny2> So, you are using probably an OLD version of FLASH.... Adobe has stop maintaining certain version of Flash
[06:51:51] <beta> I tried installing both the 64 bit and 32 bit from the add software.
[06:51:54] <BugzBunny2> ATM, Chromium/Google Chrome are the only browsers with the latest up2date Flash plugin
[06:52:23] <BugzBunny2> beta, Again, Firefox plugin system uses a VERY old Flash plugin
[06:53:43] <beta> I didn't have problems with older manjaro and firefox, only when I tried using beta manjaro. I will try using chromium and see if that helps.
[06:54:03] <beta> Thanks for your help.
[06:55:36] <BugzBunny2> beta, The issue, Flash is proprietary software, Manjaro CANNOT fix a bug in Flash
[06:55:46] <BugzBunny2> Firefox Flash is VERY OLD
[06:56:12] <BugzBunny2> Since Adobe STOPPED supporting Linux Flash
[06:56:25] <tefter> they started to support it again recently
[06:56:40] <BugzBunny2> Link?
[06:57:00] <tefter> well known fact
[06:57:05] <BugzBunny2> Link?
[06:57:12] <tefter> new versions of flash arrived in repo
[06:57:16] <BugzBunny2> Dude, it's me agisnt you bro
[06:57:23] <BugzBunny2> That fucking reponse
[06:57:35] <BugzBunny2> Makes it seem like it's me vs you bro
[06:57:37] <tefter> local/flashplugin 24.0.0.194-1
[06:57:38] <tefter>     Adobe Flash Player
[06:57:47] <BugzBunny2> I am asking for a link So I can
[06:57:58] <BugzBunny2> But that doesn't mean nothing to me bro
[06:58:20] <BugzBunny2> I need a link; press release, from Adobe, they are starting that back up
[06:58:21] <tefter> if you don't beleive me check yourself , beacuse it's all over the place
[06:59:01] <BugzBunny2> tefter, Bro, If I said that AMD has 6Ghz cpu for 45$
[06:59:06] <BugzBunny2> You asked for a link
[06:59:24] <BugzBunny2> I would say, http://www.amd.com/6ghz/cpu
[06:59:25] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/8QybBO] (link was unresponsive: http://www.amd.com/6ghz/cpu)
[06:59:29] <BugzBunny2> :-p
[06:59:35] <BugzBunny2> Dawg
[06:59:36] <tefter> https://www.google.rs/search?q=adobe+supporting+flash+on+linux+again&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-ab&gws_rd=cr&ei=sJyiWNPAM4zXU_WuhMgJ
[06:59:37] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/F4UY9c] adobe supporting flash on linux again - Google претрага
[07:00:05] <BugzBunny2> tefter, Was that hard bro
[07:00:22] <BugzBunny2> We enemies tefter ?
[07:02:58] <BugzBunny2> tefter, The response would have been better with this Link http://blogs.adobe.com/flashplayer/2016/08/beta-news-flash-player-npapi-for-linux.html#sthash.LfsZVlpy.dpbs
[07:03:02] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/7C8ZP4] Beta News – Flash Player NPAPI for Linux
[07:03:09] <BugzBunny2> But fuck me bro, I guess we fucking enemies
[07:03:15] <BugzBunny2> You don't like me, no problem
[07:03:17] * BugzBunny2 noted
[07:03:43] <tefter> no we are not enemies
[07:06:23] <BugzBunny2> I don't keep up2date with that shit
[07:06:27] <BugzBunny2> Learning that NOW
[07:06:35] <BugzBunny2> Next time some on ASKs
[07:06:50] <BugzBunny2> I can say, I read, that Adobe is resuming support
[07:06:55] <BugzBunny2> But man bro
[07:07:20] <BugzBunny2> beta, Cook bro, it's not
[07:07:29] <BugzBunny2> Some long time people
[07:07:41] <BugzBunny2> I figure who is my fucking enemy and who is not
[07:09:21] <tefter> firefox 51 did some radical changes
[07:09:27] <beta> chromium works but how can I download firefox 50. In my manjaro beta add software it only shows the newest version 51.0.1
[07:09:31] <tefter> for me it works much better
[07:11:42] <beta> I like manjaro 17 beta because it boots fast, but I want to install the older version of firefox, version 50
[07:13:09] <rhg135> I have a copy of that package, I assume others do too
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[07:34:03] <VinceS> i have "sudo pacman -S gnome" .   I did not follow command lines to removed XFCE yet.   thank goodness.  How do i log into Gnome desktop and set it as default desktop
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[07:39:43] <VinceS> sorry logged out by accident. Reasking question.  How do I am Gnome my default Desktop after installing.
[07:40:54] <BugzBunny2> Ask tefter
[07:41:04] <day|flip> Just change your session to Gnome. lightdm should have it remember. Since that was your last session
[07:41:50] <BugzBunny2> He want's to remove XFCE and replace it with Gnome
[07:42:33] <BugzBunny2> But ask tefter
[07:42:37] <VinceS> I have installed Gnome.   Trying to log into it and use it ..  Then maybe remove XFCE after..
[07:43:01] <VinceS> I will ask Tefter..
[07:44:19] <tefter> VinceS you should change your session in display manager
[07:44:39] <tefter> then dispaly manager will probably remember last session for next time
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[07:54:11] <BugzBunny2> I am starting to find a sweet sport for RX 480
[07:54:30] <VinceS> Success !  Thank you betta
[07:54:32] <BugzBunny2> I am starting to like them both
[07:54:44] <beta> your welcome.
[07:54:52] <BugzBunny2> oO
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[07:55:12] <day|flip> O.o
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[08:00:51] <BugzBunny2> I've been testing shit
[08:01:01] <BugzBunny2> On VERY VERY low power
[08:01:03] <day|flip> what kind of shit
[08:01:17] <BugzBunny2> I can get 60FPS @ 1080P
[08:01:35] <BugzBunny2> day|flip, I played Need for Speed 2015, on a very LOW power
[08:01:38] <day|flip> ahh more live streaming stuff
[08:01:45] <BugzBunny2> NO
[08:01:49] <day|flip> ok
[08:01:55] <BugzBunny2> I played that shit locally fuckturd
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[08:02:13] <day|flip> man. i had not played "need for speed" in yearssssssssssssssssssssss
[08:02:39] <BugzBunny2> On a very LOWERED rx 4x480
[08:02:53] <day|flip> need for speed 2 hot pursuit! i 100% this game. It was awesome
[08:03:10] <BugzBunny2> It looked so fucking great
[08:03:26] <BugzBunny2> On underpowered Rx 480
[08:03:30] <BugzBunny2> Only issue
[08:03:30] <day|flip> wait?? 4 rx480?
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[08:03:58] <BugzBunny2> day|flip, I mean to say, Lowered Powered rx 480
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[08:04:02] <day|flip> ok
[08:04:10] <BugzBunny2> Shit still look good
[08:04:10] <day|flip> i'll just about to say
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[08:04:18] <BugzBunny2> I dunno
[08:04:21] <day|flip> that awesome
[08:04:34] <BugzBunny2> AMD must have did some changes with 17.1 drivers
[08:05:06] <BugzBunny2> With VSR, @ 1440p
[08:05:19] <BugzBunny2> I would loved to see how it does
[08:05:56] <BugzBunny2> but my GPU can record at 1080p60
[08:06:17] <BugzBunny2> But I would loved to see how it looks at VSR @ 1440p
[08:06:20] <day|flip> maybe daul rx480 should fix that
[08:06:31] <day|flip> crossfire
[08:07:54] <BugzBunny2> yeah
[08:08:02] <BugzBunny2> But Far Cry 3
[08:08:08] <BugzBunny2> I get the max, 45FPS
[08:08:13] <BugzBunny2> So some games
[08:08:30] <BugzBunny2> I played Deus Ex: Mankind Divded offline
[08:08:48] <BugzBunny2> I had to set some settings at the driver level
[08:08:59] <BugzBunny2> But it was butter smooth
[08:09:20] <BugzBunny2> When I increased to Ultra Textures with OBS
[08:09:30] <BugzBunny2> There was latency
[08:09:34] <day|flip> this is known issue. some game will work better on nvidia or the other way around. far cry 3 maybe a nvidia foucs game
[08:09:46] <BugzBunny2> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[08:09:48] <BugzBunny2> k
[08:11:49] <BugzBunny2> Need for Speed is coded for Nvidia
[08:11:52] <BugzBunny2> But
[08:12:02] <BugzBunny2> Low power RX 480
[08:12:17] <BugzBunny2> Mind the screen tearing and from drops sometimes
[08:12:25] <BugzBunny2> It was VERY playable
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[08:12:42] <day|flip> maybe it not a very gpu heavy game. it may need a better cpu
[08:12:56] <BugzBunny2> Far cry 3?
[08:13:09] <day|flip> need for speed
[08:13:13] <BugzBunny2> no
[08:13:20] <BugzBunny2> day|flip, You don't understand
[08:13:27] <BugzBunny2> Shit look fucking good
[08:13:39] <BugzBunny2> I fucking enjoyed playing it
[08:13:43] <day|flip> :)
[08:13:51] <BugzBunny2> I didn't have FPS monitor
[08:14:04] <day|flip> i want to build a new computer to. so i can enjoy pc games as will
[08:14:10] <BugzBunny2> But suspect on secens it drop to like 45FPS
[08:14:42] <BugzBunny2> Only fucking issue, is cheap Dinput controller
[08:14:51] <BugzBunny2> I installed InputMapper 2
[08:15:05] <BugzBunny2> Convince the game the is 360 controller
[08:15:18] <day|flip> ahhh
[08:16:19] <BugzBunny2> My PSU is cheap
[08:16:27] <BugzBunny2> Very low rating
[08:16:35] <BugzBunny2> I had it for almost a year
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[08:16:43] <BugzBunny2> IT hasn't failed
[08:17:15] <BugzBunny2> The Power draw on the GPU when I mas it out.. is 250 watts
[08:17:19] <day|flip> i will go no lowser then 80+ bronze
[08:17:32] <BugzBunny2> Shit
[08:19:47] <BugzBunny2> I think this PSU, at 550, I get 60%
[08:20:19] <BugzBunny2> 750 watt and above.. you need better power rating
[08:20:40] <BugzBunny2> Then multi-rail or single rail
[08:21:09] <BugzBunny2> It's not I think, It's 550w PSU, but it's 60%
[08:21:11] <day|flip> 80+ platinum or titanium will give you the best power rating
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[08:25:42] <BugzBunny2> Well, like I said
[08:25:49] <BugzBunny2> I have a cheap PSU
[08:25:54] <BugzBunny2> It's been a year
[08:26:03] <BugzBunny2> It hasn't failed
[08:26:41] <BugzBunny2> I know the limitations, that's why I keep the CPU lower power when I play games
[08:26:49] <BugzBunny2> The Power draw is the GPU
[08:27:35] <BugzBunny2> But don't worry
[08:27:59] <BugzBunny2> I will buy a better PSU and a better cooler for the CPU
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[08:28:08] <BugzBunny2> And a nice case
[08:28:14] <BugzBunny2> Don't wory
[08:28:41] <BugzBunny2> But unfortunately, it will take me a year to do it
[08:28:41] <day|flip> that all good
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[08:29:13] <day|flip> it what you got to do and what you can do
[08:29:26] <day|flip> just try not to over do it
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[08:30:52] <BugzBunny2> I said a year
[08:31:13] <BugzBunny2> [02:29:26] <day|flip> just try not to over do it
[08:31:22] <BugzBunny2> That's a stupid question to ask for me
[08:31:47] <BugzBunny2> However, the new 17.1 drivers have kept the wattage under 200
[08:31:56] <BugzBunny2> from AMD
[08:31:57] <day|flip> :)
[08:32:36] <BugzBunny2> Like I said, I played Deus Ex: Human mankind
[08:32:44] <BugzBunny2> 60FPS
[08:32:52] <BugzBunny2> low powered
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[08:33:03] <BugzBunny2> I was 30-40watts
[08:33:23] <BugzBunny2> Very High or Ultral
[08:34:11] <BugzBunny2> Games that are VERY optimized and there is others
[08:35:09] <BugzBunny2> For Deus Ex
[08:35:20] <BugzBunny2> I had to disable some in game features
[08:35:42] <BugzBunny2> And I had to set settings at driver Level
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[08:39:22] <BugzBunny2> day|flip, You want to see
[08:39:25] <BugzBunny2> one second
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[08:43:49] <BugzBunny2> [02:29:26] <day|flip> just try not to over do it
[08:43:59] <day|flip>  ^.~
[08:44:10] <day|flip> you really love that
[08:44:14] <BugzBunny2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKpeYJz-8M
[08:44:16] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/0bWLbN] Test Stream #11 - YouTube
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[08:44:48] <BugzBunny2> Fucking copy and paste dude
[08:44:56] <BugzBunny2> Don't blow your brains out
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[08:45:33] <day|flip> i think i blow my brains out to many times to count. i just trying to figure how im still not dead yet
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[08:46:56] <day|flip> oo auto save like dark souls :)
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[08:48:34] <day|flip> BugzBunny2: since your using w10. you could try DirectX12 see if that will work out better for you
[08:49:55] <BugzBunny2> I did
[08:50:03] <BugzBunny2> But, it doesn't look better
[08:50:11] <day|flip> ahh
[08:50:27] <BugzBunny2> maybe for 1440p
[08:50:43] <BugzBunny2> But I have 1080p monitor
[08:51:01] <day|flip>  so this is a self mode mission?
[08:51:38] <day|flip> i hear you can play this game in two different ways. self and guns n blazing
[08:52:06] <BugzBunny2> Single Player
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[08:53:27] <day|flip> audio is cutting out around 4:50
[08:55:30] <BugzBunny2> Yeah, that's after youtube proess it
[08:55:45] <BugzBunny2> no no no
[08:55:46] <BugzBunny2> LOL
[08:55:56] <BugzBunny2> I was testing that game
[08:56:02] <BugzBunny2> I ran of system memory
[08:56:04] <day|flip> it cool
[08:56:11] <day|flip> o.O
[08:56:11] <BugzBunny2> Have my computer crashed
[08:56:27] <BugzBunny2> That's what happen
[08:57:07] <BugzBunny2> I left browser opens and shit
[08:57:11] <BugzBunny2> I was just testing
[08:57:17] <BugzBunny2> Normally, I will them
[08:57:22] <BugzBunny2> But at the time
[08:57:27] <BugzBunny2> I was just testing
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[09:01:47] <day|flip> I see
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[09:05:53] <BugzBunny2> I ready to do another live stream
[09:07:19] <BugzBunny2> day|flip, You going to watch my Live Stream?
[09:08:05] <day|flip> idk. im kind of tired. watching a speed run of "Super Dram World"
[09:08:35] <BugzBunny2> Fuck you then
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[09:10:29] <BugzBunny2> Let me setup a proper live stream.. I want to enjoy this game, since I set the proper settings
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[10:29:34] <optics> forum dead
[10:30:50] <day|flip> i notice
[10:31:00] <day|flip> maybe a update to the server?
[10:31:06] <optics> deader than usual
[10:31:59] <day|flip> were the door nail?
[10:32:03] <day|flip> when you need one
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[10:33:55] <optics> what the hell is the forum hosted in Australia
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[10:34:00] <day|flip> ?
[10:34:04] <day|flip> will it back
[10:35:49] <optics> when you ping forum.manjaro.org what ip do you get
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[10:37:43] <day|flip> search it. it show Germany
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[10:38:03] <optics> for me it returned an ip in Australia
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[10:38:23] <BugzBunny2> Still doing my shit
[10:38:29] <optics> i was thinking it might be a digital ocean cdn
[10:38:40] <BugzBunny2> day|flip, I thought you had shit to do.. mother fucker
[10:39:05] <day|flip> will i see two ip of the same number. one germany the other is mackay queensland australia
[10:39:33] <optics> that's its nameservers actually ping it
[10:39:54] <day|flip> BugzBunny2: my dailly youtube channel video i like to watch
[10:40:48] <BugzBunny2> Forums is not dead
[10:40:53] <BugzBunny2> I just checked it the other day
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[10:41:15] <day|flip> the network was down for like 5 or almost 10min
[10:41:31] * optics is disgusted
[10:41:39] <BugzBunny2> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/unstable-manjaro-architect-beta-testing/16010
[10:41:40] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/AM5pDA] [unstable] Manjaro-architect beta testing - Announcements - Manjaro
[10:42:08] <BugzBunny2> That 24 minutes ago
[10:42:29] <optics> it was down just for a bit
[10:42:38] <BugzBunny2> Unless you talking about old.forum.manjaro.com
[10:45:00] <day|flip> i think it classicforum.manjaro.com
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[11:09:30] <BugzBunny2> I was messing around with the mobo
[11:09:36] <BugzBunny2> I destroyed one of the fans
[11:09:58] <BugzBunny2> It's alright, it was helper
[11:10:10] <BugzBunny2> Anywho
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[11:21:17] <manjaro_s> hi all. Can you help beginner with some advice?
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[11:22:20] <manjaro_s> my manjaro does not recognize headphones jack, even though speakers are fine and are working
[11:22:40] <manjaro_s> tried using pavucontrol and unmuted headphones in alsamixer, to no avail.
[11:23:09] <Jeannie> pavucontrol and alsamixer are two different things
[11:23:35] <manjaro_s> i know, just saying that tried them and they did not help
[11:23:42] <Jeannie> Did you select the proper soundcard in alsamixer?
[11:24:12] <BugzBunny2> Jeannie in the house!
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[11:24:22] <manjaro_s> it has default option and hda intel pch. I tried both.
[11:24:41] <Jeannie> Did you check if the headphones are okay?
[11:24:46] <manjaro_s> yes. they are.
[11:25:12] <BugzBunny2> How many sound cards do you have?
[11:25:21] <Jeannie> Are you sure that you did not plug them into a microphone jack instead of a headphoen jack?
[11:25:37] <BugzBunny2> ^^^ It doesn't happen
[11:25:47] <BugzBunny2> I often plug in the wrong jack
[11:25:58] <BugzBunny2> It does happen&
[11:26:17] <manjaro_s> yes I am.
[11:26:26] <manjaro_s> I have one jack for mic and headphones
[11:26:34] <manjaro_s> I use it on my windows second boot
[11:26:37] <manjaro_s> without problems
[11:26:44] <BugzBunny2> Laptop?
[11:26:47] <Jeannie> Then I am out of ideas
[11:26:57] <manjaro_s> asus
[11:26:58] <manjaro_s> laptop
[11:27:04] <BugzBunny2> That's why
[11:28:04] <optics> are you on i3?
[11:28:06] <BugzBunny2> It's not ALSA doesn't recognize it, it's just is not taught how to, at this point
[11:28:19] <BugzBunny2> You need to speak who KNOWS alsa very well
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[11:28:46] <BugzBunny2> Only complicated system I had is when a 3.1 speak system on my HP Envy laptop
[11:29:02] <Fenix17> morning all: i'm looking to upgrade my cpu... can jsut swap it and linux recognize it or need to tweak some config file around?
[11:29:03] <BugzBunny2> I had to change output to get sound out of the laptop
[11:29:30] <manjaro_s> at this point I think I am forced to switch manually
[11:29:50] <BugzBunny2> One jack for mic and and audio
[11:29:59] <manjaro_s> i am not on i3
[11:30:08] <BugzBunny2> Some Headphones have the 3 prongs
[11:30:12] <manjaro_s> from terminal
[11:30:17] <BugzBunny2> Try those head phones
[11:30:20] <BugzBunny2> See if it work
[11:30:25] <BugzBunny2> No the ones with just 2
[11:30:49] <BugzBunny2> You will see 3 o rings on the jack
[11:31:01] <BugzBunny2> Regular Headphones have 2 o rings
[11:31:19] <manjaro_s> i see what i mean
[11:31:33] <manjaro_s> just don't want to buy new ones bcs of some shitty settings
[11:31:47] <BugzBunny2> Well, you have to google it man
[11:31:50] <manjaro_s> what u mean
[11:31:56] <BugzBunny2> People who know alsa
[11:32:18] <manjaro_s> yeah just thought maybe some manjaro guru is here. already googled for couple of hours
[11:32:42] <manjaro_s> thx
[11:33:50] <BugzBunny2> It's manjaro guru, it's alsa guru
[11:34:32] <BugzBunny2> But I am pretty sure, google your model of laptop, sound, some other people might experience it to with Linux and found a solution
[11:34:39] <Fenix17> none can answer my question?
[11:34:44] <Fenix17> wouldn't like to face a not bootable pc
[11:35:13] <Jeannie> Same socket? Same manufacturer?
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[11:36:23] <Fenix17> actual is an i3 2125 sandy bridge and would like to go for a i5 3570k and maybe overclock it a bit
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[11:37:16] <Jeannie> That cpu ugrade should not result in a non bootable system
[11:37:54] <Fenix17> that would be awesome
[11:38:02] <Fenix17> thx
[11:38:22] <Fenix17> other thing,., anyone using manjaro 17 beta 2 kde?
[11:38:30] <Fenix17> seems it misses the mail client
[11:39:04] <Fenix17> afaik kde uses kmail.. but can't find it, nor thunderbirsd
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[11:39:42] <day|flip> normally the dev build are ment for testing. and it smaller in size
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[11:41:14] <Fenix17> yeah but had problem with 16.10 so tried this... and seems a bit better (so far)
[11:41:42] <day|flip> and also. unstable is the default repo
[11:41:58] <optics> testing
[11:42:33] <Fenix17> guess i'll intall thunderbird than since i was used to it on windows
[11:42:45] <Fenix17> thxc for replying
[11:44:54] <day|flip> optics: are you usre. each time i been testing out the dev build. it almost alway unstable. /etc/pacman-mirrors.conf  always see it as unstable
[11:45:00] <day|flip> sure***
[11:45:37] <optics> xfce beta 3 was set to testing but yeah normally unstable
[11:45:41] <BugzBunny2> Fenix17, by default
[11:45:52] <BugzBunny2> Fenix17, Depends on the Distro
[11:46:25] <BugzBunny2> Some KDE distro don't SHIP KDE but clawmail
[11:46:30] <Fenix17> BugzBunny2: replying to which question? cpu or mail client?
[11:46:51] <BugzBunny2> [05:38:29] <Fenix17> seems it misses the mail client
[11:46:51] <BugzBunny2> [05:39:02] <Fenix17> afaik kde uses kmail.. but can't find it, nor thunderbirsd
[11:47:04] <Fenix17> looking for "mail" in manjaro menu shoudl get anything... can't find any client
[11:47:07] <BugzBunny2> don't ship KMail*
[11:47:22] <BugzBunny2> It's _beta_
[11:47:27] <Fenix17> rgr thx
[11:47:51] <Fenix17> indeed octopi just foudn 72 updates :P
[11:47:51] <BugzBunny2> You have to read the release notes
[11:47:58] <BugzBunny2> When it's release
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[11:48:22] <BugzBunny2> but you do understand Manjaro is a rolling release right?
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[11:49:15] <BugzBunny2> That means, EVERY single user who updates to stable release will be as current as 17.1 and 17.1, suppose to mean January 2017
[11:49:35] <Fenix17> what do u mean with "rolling release"? sorry my english isn't also good... meaning "it changes often"?
[11:50:16] <Jeannie> Expect daily updates when you're on the unstable repos
[11:50:23] <BugzBunny2> Yes, "it changes often" and yes "you don't not have to download a new ISO" to be current
[11:50:35] <Fenix17> yup i like that
[11:51:20] <BugzBunny2> As Jeannie said if you on the unstable repo
[11:51:36] <Fenix17> hwo to check?
[11:51:53] <BugzBunny2> If you on _beta_, you on the unstable repo
[11:52:03] <Fenix17> then yes
[11:52:10] <day|flip> cat /etc/pacman-mirrors.conf | grep stable
[11:52:12] <BugzBunny2> As far checking, as Jeannie or day|flip
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[11:52:55] <day|flip> w/e Branch=
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[11:53:51] <Fenix17> yep unstable
[11:53:52] <Fenix17> Branch Pacman should use (stable, testing, unstable) Branch = unstable
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[11:54:15] <Fenix17> i hoped suspenson awalening problems were solved with beta but stil lthere
[11:54:20] <Fenix17> awakening
[11:57:04] <Fenix17> i would ask anotehr thing: how the hell can i make a desktop icon to launche a windows app under wine?
[11:58:35] <Fenix17> np for linux programs but when it ned wine links freeze whole desktop and panels.. even restarting plasmashell doesn't fix it
[11:59:05] <BugzBunny2> AFAIK, q4wine can do that automatcially, or playonlinux
[11:59:22] <Fenix17> ah need other tool?
[11:59:42] <Fenix17> wil lcheck that thx
[11:59:54] <BugzBunny2> Well, you don't one ~/.wine directory for every application that you use
[12:00:00] <BugzBunny2> want*
[12:00:51] <BugzBunny2> But you have to do it manually, to put a link on your desktop when it comes to win, some de, you can right click and create a shortcut and define it
[12:02:43] <Fenix17> just path to file with "wine" command ahead?
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[12:03:01] <Fenix17> lunch on table
[12:03:03] <Fenix17>  afk a bit
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[12:04:17] <BugzBunny2> wine should be in your $PATH
[12:04:32] <hisforever> Hi I just dpwnloaded a new opera broswer I extracted it. How Do I install it from files?
[12:05:09] <BugzBunny2> So, wine /part/to/windows/command.exe #again this isn't advisable, you using ~/.wine directory for all applications and it may fail
[12:07:00] <BugzBunny2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0NdT1dDMo0
[12:07:01] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jmUVJK] Let's Play Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Episode 1 (Commentary) [Finally!] 1080p 60FPS - YouTube
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[12:10:13] <Jeannie> Why don't you simply install opera from the repos?
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[12:15:13] <hisforever> I have installed opera fromrepos. I am drying to get extenion for downloader
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[12:15:56] <hisforever> opera is saying I needed to install latist opera
[12:17:35] <Jeannie> Then you might need some patience until opera is being upgraded
[12:17:49] <Jeannie> You could use a different chromium clone though
[12:19:15] <hisforever> ok thanks Jeannie you were a big help :)
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[12:20:19] <Fenix17> BugzBunny2: nope, the application in object is a standaloone one and it's not under .wine folder
[12:20:42] <Fenix17> it works fine if i navigate with file manager to folder and double click on it
[12:20:44] <BugzBunny2> You don't know how wine works
[12:21:34] <Fenix17> ah no doubt about that eheh
[12:21:58] <BugzBunny2> wine replicates a windows environment in ~/.wine
[12:22:20] <BugzBunny2> Program Files etc etc etc
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[12:22:31] <BugzBunny2> Windows
[12:22:37] <Fenix17> yeah i've seen these folders
[12:22:40] <BugzBunny2> Windows/system32 etc
[12:23:15] <BugzBunny2> Yeah, that's the base system that wine launch from
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[12:23:39] <BugzBunny2> It's recommended you have a ~/.wine prefix for each application that you use
[12:24:20] <Fenix17> and i thpought about that too
[12:24:40] <Fenix17> but it works where it is if i duoble click directly on the exe file
[12:24:54] <Fenix17> so thinking more it's a link problem
[12:25:06] <Fenix17> i may be wrong of course, really noob about linuxz
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[12:25:47] <BugzBunny2> Finally I got my live stream working
[12:25:58] <Fenix17> porn?
[12:26:07] <BugzBunny2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0NdT1dDMo0
[12:26:07] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jmUVJK] Let's Play Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Episode 1 (Commentary) [Finally!] 1080p 60FPS - YouTube
[12:27:26] <Fenix17> ehjeh i just play eve online
[12:28:30] <day|flip> i hear that game get really evil
[12:28:51] <Fenix17> lol what do u mean?
[12:29:18] <day|flip> like you lose your ship and cant get it back
[12:29:33] <Fenix17> yup
[12:29:47] <Fenix17> indeed first rule is "do not fly what u can't afford to lose"
[12:30:42] <Fenix17> anyway it's free to play now, so u can try it yourself for undefinite long time
[12:31:16] <day|flip> non on this computer that im using
[12:31:21] <day|flip> not on**
[12:31:39] <day|flip> i don't think i want to game on a intel nuc
[12:33:02] <day|flip> i got this computer for linux used. it a awesome little guy
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[12:34:26] <Fenix17> no idea what those are capable of so can't have an opinion XD
[12:34:30] <day|flip> will im off. good night guys
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[12:35:51] <fishbulb> even online is just an interactive spreadsheet
[12:36:19] <Fenix17> depends what u want to do
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[13:27:07] <eka_> hi, new to manjaro... is there a keyboard shortcut to run apps instead of navigating the menu?
[13:27:38] <Jeannie> That woudl be desktop environment dependent
[13:27:48] <eka_> Jeannie, sorry I'm using Xfce
[13:28:09] <Jeannie> No idea , I hate  xfce
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[13:46:25] <Guest99246> Hey guys, I have the a problem... Right clicked on the sound icon on my panel and checked the "Off" option, and when I turned it on again there's no sound? Restarting the laptop didn't help?
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[13:53:03] <thrasher88> hello, I help
[13:53:15] <thrasher88> I need help :D
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[14:12:13] <Jolt2bolt> hi
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[15:35:23] <gawd> Ahoy !!
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[15:47:15] <gawd> I'm hungry ..
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[16:01:21] <luuuciano> on the bootup messages I saw a red line, it is a FAILED to start load kernel modules... it says to use systemctl status systemd-modules-load , but... do not inform whats wrong, just that is failing... any idea?
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[16:02:43] <badbodh> luuuciano› name of module? dmesg, journalctl ?
[16:03:09] <badbodh> what did you do right before having this problem, or is it fresh install
[16:03:39] <luuuciano> badbodh, I had installed linux44 & linux49, removed last one... so now is runing linux44
[16:04:05] <badbodh> what did you use to add/remove kernel ?
[16:04:42] <luuuciano> badbodh, command line options mhwd-kernel, the gui failed (did not anything)
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[16:05:05] <badbodh> did you remove 4.9 while running 4.9 ?
[16:05:31] <luuuciano> badbodh, noup, I started using 4.4 at that point
[16:05:56] <badbodh> but your 4.4 don't boot anymore ?
[16:06:00] <luuuciano> 4.4 was the active kernel
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[16:06:28] <luuuciano> 4.4 boots fine, but I see that red line on bootup... about failed to start kernel modules
[16:06:49] <badbodh> then install 'wgetpaste' , it's a pastebin script
[16:07:14] <badbodh> then run "dmesh |wgetpaste" and "journalctl -b -p 3|wgetpaste"
[16:07:18] <badbodh> *dmesg
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[16:07:36] <luuuciano> okasss, doing
[16:07:38] <badbodh> share the links
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[16:11:08] <luuuciano> badbodh, ohhhh a lot of vbox stuff in the 2nd... and acpi_call failing? should I uninstall linux44-acpi_call? 1 https://paste.pound-python.org/show/Q7cl2TjToRj1nmoaE6bq/ 2 https://paste.pound-python.org/show/Q7cl2TjToRj1nmoaE6bq/
[16:11:11] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jHzCdK] Paste #Q7cl2TjToRj1nmoaE6bq at spacepaste
[16:11:28] <badbodh> hang on
[16:12:41] <badbodh> that's dmesg. now the second one please
[16:12:54] <badbodh> ignore acpi
[16:12:58] <luuuciano> badbodh, it is there, the second link
[16:13:03] <luuuciano> oops, sorry
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[16:13:06] <luuuciano> dupe
[16:13:08] <badbodh> :/
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[16:13:16] <luuuciano> https://paste.pound-python.org/show/yA9SIiTGdh8U3463Y3Bn/ here
[16:13:19] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/OIwrDr] (link was unresponsive: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/yA9SIiTGdh8U3463Y3Bn/)
[16:13:35] <badbodh> you using vbox's dkms ?
[16:13:57] <badbodh> "cat /var/logs/pacman.log|wgetpaste"
[16:13:59] <luuuciano> yes, I will have to rebuild vbox modules?
[16:14:32] <badbodh> install kernel specific modules instead. like linux44-virtualbox-hostmodule something
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[16:14:57] <Jolt2bolt> hi guys!
[16:14:59] <luuuciano> ahhhh, great, understood
[16:15:00] <badbodh> that way whenever you install kernel with mhwd, you get vbox modules too
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[16:15:23] <badbodh> remove your currently installed vbox module thingy
[16:15:40] <luuuciano> yep, will do
[16:15:55] * badbodh slaps Jolt2bolt with a horny gay trout
[16:16:05] <Jolt2bolt> ouch!!
[16:16:19] <badbodh> you like it? happy v-day <3
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[16:16:46] * Jolt2bolt take the horny gay trout and slap back to badbodh
[16:17:11] <badbodh> unnnhhh!
[16:17:26] <Jolt2bolt> by the way I'm amazed what you can do with awesome WN since became in a framework!:D
[16:17:35] <Jolt2bolt> look this example
[16:17:37] <Jolt2bolt> https://i.imgur.com/oUunJp9.png
[16:17:37] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/H6Fgv2] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
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[16:19:25] <badbodh> nice. like those movie hackers. bleep-bloop and hacked into pentagon
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[16:23:02] <floraxing> I'm using my tv as a second monitor through HDMI. I can't see the edges of the second display but the resolution is correct. Is there a way I can change it's size in pixels?
[16:23:57] <floraxing> When I was on Windows I could do that using Intel HD Graphics but I can't get it on here and I've tried looking online for quite some time now to try and fix it but I find no help.
[16:25:28] <physkets> what DE are you using?
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[16:26:15] <floraxing> XFCE
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[16:29:46] <physkets> I think one way would be to make monitor.conf file in "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/"
[16:30:43] <physkets> There is an arch wiki article that describes it; look for the HiDPI article or the one on Xorg
[16:30:46] <badbodh> physkets› probably make one for him and pastebin it :)
[16:31:05] <badbodh> the archwiki articles are not exactly friendly
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[16:33:13] <physkets> this is what mine looks like: https://gist.github.com/physkets/7acc65419f574d7cc676b4c300a1d8a8
[16:33:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/f69fY5] /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/90-monitor.conf · GitHub
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[16:33:57] <physkets> look up the 'Display Size' wikipedia article to convert between pixels and millimeters
[16:34:03] <physkets> gtg
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[16:37:13] <floraxing> Thank you, I'll take a look at it now. I've taken a screenshot from bottom right to top left on my second screen so I can get it correctly. In Identifier do I put HDMI1 which is the second monitor
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[16:41:35] <luuuciano> badbodh, done, but now instead "failed to find" it says "failed to insert", any idea? https://paste.pound-python.org/show/am6vx8UvODtWCNaacMrJ/
[16:41:38] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/19ZTtR] (link was unresponsive: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/am6vx8UvODtWCNaacMrJ/)
[16:42:35] <badbodh> "cat /var/logs/pacman.log|wgetpaste" <---- luuuciano
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[16:43:36] <inahd> was trying to pretty up xfce, and i broke  the qt5 settings window. now its too big to change :/
[16:44:22] <luuuciano> badbodh, here https://paste.pound-python.org/show/jyqv0YknNo05qT2VCxLn/
[16:44:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/aw8GME] Paste #jyqv0YknNo05qT2VCxLn at spacepaste
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[16:44:28] <badbodh> inahd› using qt5ct?
[16:44:55] <badbodh> edit .config/qt5ct/qt5ct.conf , put style=gtk2
[16:45:13] <badbodh> assuming you got stlyplugins installeed
[16:48:23] <badbodh> luuuciano› your dkms didn't work earlier because you didn't install kernel headers for 44 and 49
[16:49:57] <badbodh> gimme "pacman -Qs virtualbox|wgetpaste"
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[16:56:14] <luuuciano> badbodh, oh, you are right, I saw a linux-api-headers... will install the propper one... and here the Qs pacman -Qs virtualbox|wgetpaste
[16:56:20] <luuuciano> sorry
[16:56:25] <luuuciano> here https://paste.pound-python.org/show/bACIVmSUG6FBtPDRgioB/
[16:56:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/1e6bhB] (link was unresponsive: https://paste.pound-python.org/show/bACIVmSUG6FBtPDRgioB/)
[16:56:59] <floraxing> I was messing about a bit more and used "xrandr --output HDMI1 --scale 0.3x0.3" in and it seemed to be getting it right but it was zoomed in too much so I had to put it back to 1x1
[16:57:23] <badbodh> remove guest modules. that's only used in live images and installations inside vbox
[16:57:41] <luuuciano> badbodh, after installing the 44 headers, should I reinstall something? virtualbox packages maybe?
[16:58:18] <badbodh> nope. remove guest modules and you're good. headers are only needed for dkms, or compiling in general
[16:58:34] <badbodh> you're not using dkms anymore
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[17:07:28] <luuuciano> badbodh, great! thanks a lot
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[17:15:08] <LkSk> Hi guys , i have a trouble with manjaro installation usb drive. it go into the boot buthen i click into start (manjaro linux x86_64 uefi etc..) it reboot after some minutes
[17:15:28] <pseudoanon121> http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/115031/en-us
[17:15:29] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ZAHnD6] NVIDIA DRIVERS Linux x64 (AMD64/EM64T) Display Driver
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[17:15:50] <pseudoanon121> How long does it usually take for things like that, to land in unstable?
[17:16:09] <pseudoanon121> Also is there a repo/aur for nvidia drivers?
[17:16:34] <LkSk> pc 64bit intel, 16gb, amd ati R7 256M
[17:16:35] <badbodh> no separate repo. everything is here, just let mhwd do the thing
[17:16:50] <badbodh> read up on mhwd in wiki
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[17:17:10] <badbodh> LkSk› can you see the boot logo?
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[17:18:32] <pseudoanon121> cheers, might look into that :D
[17:18:53] <LkSk> badbodh: yes only boot menu
[17:19:19] <LkSk> this https://forum.manjaro.org/uploads/default/original/2X/2/23bb5c11d207061c5a9fbec841487c32c8dff6b9.jpg
[17:19:19] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/6Dc3TK] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)
[17:19:21] <badbodh> after the boot menu, you see manjaro logo ?
[17:19:58] <LkSk> : badbodhonly black screen
[17:20:12] <LkSk> and it restarts
[17:20:19] <badbodh> on boot menu did you pick free or non-free ?
[17:20:29] <LkSk> it is the same
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[17:20:49] <badbodh> did you verify the downloaded iso?
[17:21:10] <LkSk> no I dowloaded it twice on torrent
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[17:21:31] <LkSk> i can verify it now i need
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[17:22:03] <badbodh> torrents are better choice, but do download the signatures and verify iso. instructions are at the bottom of download page at manjaro.org
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[17:22:58] <badbodh> if you;re on windows you need to figure out how to do it
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[17:24:59] <LkSk> the signature is ok
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[17:25:20] <GeekK> Interesting: http://www.teejeetech.in/2017/02/coming-soon-polo-file-manager.html
[17:25:22] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/TYleLw] TeeJeeTech: Coming Soon: Polo File Manager
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[17:27:20] <badbodh> LkSk› how did you create bootable usb ?
[17:27:27] <LkSk> dd if of
[17:27:31] <LkSk> on ubuntu
[17:27:34] <LkSk> 14
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[17:28:33] <badbodh> you;re on ubuntu now?
[17:28:39] <LkSk> yes
[17:28:45] <badbodh> installed pastebinit ?
[17:29:18] <badbodh> gimme your "inxi -Fxzc0" output on pastebin
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[17:31:34] <LkSk> badbodh 1 second please
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[17:32:28] <badbodh> i gotta head out. keep your inxi output handy when anybody shows up to help you out
[17:32:47] <LkSk> http://pastebin.com/NavBn75h
[17:32:48] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/XFInEV] System:    Host: forest Kernel: 4.4.0-62-generic x86_64 (64 bit, gcc: 4.8.4)     - Pastebin.com
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[17:33:50] <badbodh> meanwhile you may try one of the experimental iso-s which have newer kernels. but be careful because they are meant for testing purpose only, so backup your data before fooling around
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[17:35:07] <badbodh> https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarotest/files/xfce/
[17:35:10] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/5jTFrD] Manjaro Testbuilds -  Browse /xfce at SourceForge.net
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[17:36:20] <LkSk> all right
[17:36:44] <LkSk> is my pc safe with it?
[17:36:54] <mtn> LkSk: you say you have ati video card?
[17:36:56] <physkets> LkSk: is this after an install?
[17:37:08] <mtn> physkets: can't boot the live disk
[17:38:05] <physkets> ah...
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[17:38:29] <LkSk> ys ati
[17:39:02] <mtn> LkSk: according to the info you gave us, you only have intel.  maybe something is wrong in your bios or with your video card
[17:39:50] <LkSk> i have truble with the video driver also with other linux distribution
[17:40:10] <gigaset> LkSk, what trouble exactly?
[17:40:11] <mtn> LkSk: right, so there is something wrong with your hardware setup
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[17:41:43] <LkSk> my pc have a month of life, it seems on linux the video part is managed by intel
[17:42:21] <LkSk> on windows ten it seems to work fine
[17:42:40] <LkSk> or i think
[17:42:42] <LkSk> so
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[17:46:33] <LkSk> mtn do you think it is an hardware problem?
[17:47:07] <mtn> LkSk: yes, or hardware setup in the bios/uefi
[17:48:05] <LkSk> the bios is very simple it doesn0t seem it have some hardware controls
[17:49:07] <mtn> LkSk: are you doing legacy/mbr or uefi boot according to the bios?
[17:49:37] <LkSk> uefi
[17:50:11] <mtn> LkSk: secure boot turned off? fast boot turned off?
[17:51:28] <LkSk> off off
[17:53:11] <mtn> LkSk: probably video card problem, then
[17:53:34] <mtn> LkSk: try adding nomodeset to the boot line in the manjaro boot menu
[17:54:25] <LkSk> video card hardware or software cmpatibility problem?
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[17:55:36] <physkets> driver.. i.e software
[17:56:24] <physkets> linux is lower priority for manufacturers... they write drivers for windows first
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[17:57:16] <physkets> I mean graphics card manufacturers
[17:57:41] <physkets> Intel seems to always supply drivers more or less on time
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[17:59:02] <LkSk> i 'll try to act withnomodeset
[17:59:30] <LkSk> is there a guide?
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[17:59:45] <LkSk> I never done it
[18:02:33] <mtn> LkSk: you should be able to add it to the boot line in the manjaro boot menu. try it and see!
[18:04:32] <gigaset> LkSk, do you have a completely black screen when you start manjaro?
[18:05:27] <LkSk> gigaset only the boot menu works
[18:05:31] <LkSk> and the shell
[18:05:43] <LkSk> firmware
[18:05:46] <mtn> what shell?
[18:05:50] <gigaset> ok, then the nomodeset sounds just good, give it a try
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[18:07:35] <LkSk> i don't kno mtn, there are two options of shell v1 ad v2
[18:07:48] <LkSk> seems like a command line
[18:08:26] <mtn> LkSk: ok. try nomodeset
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[18:16:07] <kajurea> wanna try manjaro i3 but is there a good i3 status for network current up and down ?
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[18:20:09] <mtn> kajurea: you could look at the i3 wiki at arch linux wiki
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[18:22:22] <kajurea> mtn: ok
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[18:28:53] <przhevalskoye> hey guys, can i get some help please?
[18:29:20] <mtn> przhevalskoye: just ask your question
[18:29:27] <przhevalskoye> i am running Manjaro 16.10 Budgie, and i fcked around with the top bar/panel a little bit, but i really fucked it up now and i cannot seem to get it back to the normal settings?
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[18:31:57] <mtn> przhevalskoye: maybe you could remove the budgie config file/folder. that would give you a fresh desktop
[18:32:06] <przhevalskoye> tell me how?
[18:32:27] <mtn> przhevalskoye: find it using the file manager, right click, rename or remove
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[18:33:30] <przhevalskoye> what if i remove the Xprofile document?
[18:33:47] <mtn> przhevalskoye: do you know what are hidden files and folders? and how to see them?
[18:34:12] <przhevalskoye> yes i do, when you press ctrl +  h you see hidden folders, you make them by putting a . infront of the name
[18:34:15] <mtn> przhevalskoye: don't start removing things at random. you will break your desktop
[18:34:31] <mtn> przhevalskoye: good. go find the budgie folder and rename or remove it.
[18:34:38] <przhevalskoye> will do
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[18:35:11] <przhevalskoye> where tf do i need to search.
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[18:35:50] <inahd> oh badbodh that worked
[18:35:52] <mtn> przhevalskoye: it is in your home folder. most likely in the .config folder. otherwise, google is your friend ;)
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[18:36:27] <przhevalskoye> i see a budgie config folder in bin?
[18:37:17] <mtn> przhevalskoye: in bin? where is bin located?
[18:37:40] <przhevalskoye> fucking hell man
[18:37:44] <przhevalskoye> the folder bin
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[18:38:06] <przhevalskoye> if you press other locations, you will go in the root folder and you see a folder called bin
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[18:38:33] <przhevalskoye> i went and looked in the bin folder, and i see a budgie config folder
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[18:39:06] <przhevalskoye> budgie-desktop to be exact
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[18:39:53] <mtn> przhevalskoye: I said it was in your home folder. do you know what your home folder is?
[18:40:14] <przhevalskoye> i do know where my home folder is.
[18:40:33] <przhevalskoye> i really feel like you are treating me as a inexperienced asshole.
[18:40:41] <mtn> przhevalskoye: then look there and leave your system folder alone. unless, you really want to reinstall manjaro
[18:40:51] <mtn> przhevalskoye: ok, fine. good luck
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[18:41:06] <przhevalskoye> jesus man
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[18:51:35] <LkSk> here i am again, when i boot usb in the grub/boot
[18:51:45] <LkSk> i press 'e'
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[18:51:54] <LkSk> and there is a line
[18:52:14] <LkSk> where i can write something
[18:52:41] <LkSk> thee are some parameters writed too
[18:53:03] <LkSk> but i don0t find he way to use nomodeset
[18:53:43] <mtn> LkSk: add it to the line that says linux at the beginning
[18:54:10] <mtn> LkSk: http://askubuntu.com/questions/38780/how-do-i-set-nomodeset-after-ive-already-installed-ubuntu
[18:54:11] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/3UCsaf] graphics - How do I set 'nomodeset' after I've already installed Ubuntu? - Ask Ubuntu
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[19:00:06] <ITGeekWhisperer> CUPS server error There was an error during the CUPS operation "server-error-internal-error' Can someone tell me what I'm missing? Manjaro sees the printer but wont let me add it...
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[19:00:30] <mtn> ITGeekWhisperer: what brand and model?
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[19:01:04] <ITGeekWhisperer> mtn:Brother HL-5470dw
[19:01:37] <mtn> ITGeekWhisperer: and have you installed brother drivers from the package manager?
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[19:03:37] <ITGeekWhisperer> mtn: no, never had to before... it sees the printer 3 ways... IPP, IPPS and LDR.... I've tried all three with no luck... It finds the drivers when it searches online I believe
[19:04:10] <mtn> ITGeekWhisperer: I believe there are drivers to install using the package manager. they may be in the aur. go look ;)
[19:04:34] <ITGeekWhisperer> mtn: :) well, roger that
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[19:12:22] <negen> ITGeekWhisperer, what printer model
[19:13:04] <ITGeekWhisperer> +negen: brother HL-5470DW
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[19:14:25] <negen> and you have have it connected to your pc and want to share it via the network correct ?
[19:15:51] <negen> well as mentioned before there is an aur package for that model
[19:16:14] <negen> yaourt -S brother-hl5470dw should work
[19:17:25] <negen> brother printers are pretty open and use only postscript so this package installs the correct PPD files needed
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[19:17:48] <ITGeekWhisperer> +negen: Please add $VISUAL to your environment variables??????
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[19:20:08] <negen> well that is for the editor that you need
[19:20:21] <negen> you must have answered yes to edit the pkgbuild file
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[19:20:56] <negen> VISUAL="nano" for me in ~/.bashrc
[19:21:06] <negen> but some prefer vi or vim
[19:21:56] <ITGeekWhisperer> +negen: haha damn.... alright alright alright.... thank you
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[19:22:29] <negen> and also just to make sure you ran yaourt -S and without root right ?
[19:22:45] <negen> no sudo or anything ?
[19:22:54] <mtn> must be too easy to use the package manager, I guess
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[19:25:45] <negen> mnt? what do you mean
[19:26:07] <mtn> negen: just what I said. I told him to use the package manager. he would have been done a long time ago
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[19:26:15] <negen> I do not believe there is a package manager for aur
[19:26:22] <mtn> negen: of course there is
[19:26:40] <mtn> negen: both pamac and octopi access the aur
[19:26:42] <negen> I never heard of one but I have only been here four years still lots to learn
[19:26:53] <mtn> negen: much easier for newbies
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[19:27:59] <negen> those are not package managers btw they are gui front ends for pacman which is a package manager and they can use yaourt or pacaur which are wrappers for pacman so there is not a package manager for aur
[19:28:18] <H-H-H> i personally use octopui on arch,manjaro and a hand rolled distro to access normal packages and aur
[19:28:25] <mtn> negen: by definition, yes, they are package manager, since, well, they manage packages!
[19:28:59] <mtn> negen: they are even called package managers by manjaro. hmm, is manjaro wrong?
[19:29:11] <negen> but they do not manage packages pacman manges the packages they are just gui front ends for pacman without pacman octopi or pamac would not work
[19:29:13] <mtn> H-H-H: yes, they work fine
[19:29:23] <mtn> negen: picking nits?
[19:30:04] <H-H-H> hey mtn hows things
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[19:30:10] <negen> point is if the pkbuild file that he used had an error while using yaourt -S then the same error would happen using octopi
[19:30:17] <mtn> H-H-H: pretty good
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[19:31:03] <H-H-H> gd gd i need to get back to building my repo packages lol damn it takes forever
[19:31:59] <negen> I prefer using pacaur for the most part but also I use octopi
[19:32:17] <H-H-H> while some folks are chatting can i ask for peoples personal favourites for virtualisation :)
[19:32:36] <negen> like qmenu or what ever ?
[19:32:43] <H-H-H> i usually use virtualbox but i know there are others just not that experienced with them
[19:32:48] <negen> like kvm ?
[19:33:07] <H-H-H> yep negen
[19:33:08] <negen> I would use virtualbox if I had no hardware supported
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[19:34:04] <negen> but since my hardware supports v-dt or what ever intel calls it I would use a kvm for pci passthrough
[19:34:42] <negen> vt-d i mean
[19:35:36] <negen> I am not sure what I prefer better some sort of win based hyper-visor and passthrough to linux or use linux and pass through to windows
[19:36:18] <negen> but for simply tested other linux distros I prefer to just boot from a usb disk or usb-stick
[19:36:41] * negen drinks CupOfCoffee
[19:36:53] <H-H-H> i only use virtualbox to test my LFS spins as its a pain building on real stuff for hours to discover you screwed up building gobject or something lol then when i know its right i build on real hardware
[19:37:25] * H-H-H loves the snapshot feature in vb
[19:37:28] * CupOfCoffee Refills itself
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[19:38:53] <negen> I need to get more into the habit of checking aur commits if a package fails
[19:39:26] <negen> sometimes i just assume the issue will resolve itself lol i though ck fucked something up I guess the pacaur guys did
[19:40:09] <H-H-H> what is asumption lol (the mother of al fcuk ups )
[19:40:15] <H-H-H> all*
[19:41:09] <negen> the error had something to do with checksums and patches already existing
[19:41:41] <negen> meh wouldn't have been the first time ck borked something
[19:41:51] <negen> i mean everything was working fine
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[19:42:29] <superbia> [red]claw: where u
[19:42:34] <H-H-H> thats usually caused by trying to build a package that patches the source and it failing then re trying to build it without doing it in a clean source tree
[19:42:37] <superbia> H-H-H:
[19:42:50] <H-H-H> hey superbia :) hows things
[19:42:54] <H-H-H> im in uk lol
[19:42:56] <superbia> H-H-H: i have not seen you in
[19:42:59] <superbia> donkeys
[19:43:06] <H-H-H> im always lurking lol
[19:43:25] <superbia> probably around red district, not where i usually go Y
[19:43:42] <H-H-H> :P
[19:43:45] <negen> https://github.com/rmarquis/pacaur/pull/646
[19:43:48] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/wxuYYJ] Do not run prepare() during integrity check by cdown · Pull Request #646 · rmarquis/pacaur · GitHub
[19:43:51] <superbia> and it's negen
[19:44:19] <superbia> H-H-H: and ringo
[19:44:22] <negen> superbia, how are you going to get a girlfriend/boyfriend this valentines day if you do not visit the red district ?
[19:44:38] <superbia> negen: do i really need anything more? I got ringo
[19:44:54] * ringo vapes
[19:44:54] <negen> ringo, is down at the police station again filling out another restraining order against me
[19:45:27] * ringo flips dɥd˙uoıʇɐʇuǝɯnɔop/ɯoɔ˙ʇuıɯxnuıן˙ʍʍʍ//:sdʇʇɥ : uǝƃǝu oʇ ǝɹnʇɔǝן ǝɯos puǝs
[19:46:08] <superbia> this looks like transofmer language
[19:46:17] <superbia> transmorphformer*
[19:46:23] <H-H-H> hey ringo how ya doing man lol
[19:46:38] <H-H-H> brb rolling a smoke
[19:46:43] <ringo> h
[19:46:47] * ringo vapes
[19:46:49] <negen> does anyone know about hdcp in linux ?
[19:46:51] <ringo> In Soviet Russia, the Table flips you ノ┬─┬ノ ︵ ( \o°o)\
[19:46:57] <negen> is that a real thing or not ?
[19:47:10] <ringo> is that like Hpsm?
[19:47:58] <negen> well for streaming things from amazon they used to complain that linux was not hdcp complainant after they switched to html5 player
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[19:48:26] <negen> but just they other day without notice or public announcement it started working
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[19:48:39] <negen> now you can get full hd working again in linux on amazon
[19:48:57] <negen> not sure about netflix or any other paid streaming service
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[19:50:06] <manjaro-web|9954> hello here
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[19:50:29] <manjaro-web|9954> i'm very happy of manjaro
[19:51:00] <manjaro-web|9954> except one thing nouveau dont work with my card
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[19:51:14] <NanoSector> what card?
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[19:51:29] <manjaro-web|9954> geforce gtx 960
[19:51:37] <NanoSector> should work with a newer kernel
[19:51:43] <NanoSector> what version are you on?
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[19:51:59] <manjaro-web|9954> i'm crurrently on beta 3
[19:52:06] <NanoSector> i meano f the kernel
[19:52:16] <manjaro-web|9954> 4.9.9
[19:52:23] <NanoSector> hmm
[19:52:28] <NanoSector> probably want to drop in #nouveau and let them know
[19:52:47] <manjaro-web|9954> but it works with other distros
[19:53:01] <manjaro-web|9954> or with nvidia driver
[19:53:07] <NanoSector> well you didn't define 'doesn't work' to begin with
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[19:53:55] <manjaro-web|9954> display manager don't show
[19:54:08] <manjaro-web|9954> it boot but leave on console
[19:54:56] <manjaro-web|9954> with startx  it write "no screen found"
[19:56:00] <negen> I prefer the  dkms nvidia drivers best for linux
[19:57:34] <negen> the non-free drivers work best for nvidia for my system
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[19:57:42] <negen> I have a 980ti though
[19:57:53] <negen> I just wish i could get the kingpin lights to work
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[20:01:58] <manjaro-web|9954> linux lacks of games
[20:02:19] <Yoda_> you can use wine
[20:02:22] <manjaro-web|9954> i mean aaa games
[20:02:32] <Yoda_> to play your regular windoze games
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[20:03:12] <manjaro-web|9954> no i'm using linux everywhere except games
[20:03:21] <negen> well a good setup for gaming would be to run linux and setup a kvm pasthrough get a low end card like a 1050 for linux use and then use pci passthrough for a windows kvm type thing for your high end card
[20:04:01] <negen> Kernel virtual machines are pretty cool
[20:04:58] <negen> I have some strange issue with a rakuten account
[20:05:45] <negen> i reset my password and can login and what not but when i go to the checkout they want my password again and the new password wont work a second time i do not know if this is a issue with their site or a issue with linux web browsers
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[20:06:41] <Yoda_> sounds interesting
[20:06:45] <Yoda_> Ill check it out
[20:07:19] <negen> their tech support does not open until sometime around 10am jst
[20:07:26] <negen> which is like 6 hrs away
[20:07:43] <negen> lazy tech support
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[20:08:03] <Yoda_> I have never heard of a non lazy support lol
[20:08:26] <negen> lots of support is 24hrs
[20:08:47] <Yoda_> 24hrs doesnt mean they aint sleeping
[20:08:54] <negen> especially with major online shops
[20:10:42] * Yoda_ fell asleep
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[20:17:47] <manjaro-web|4062> hi
[20:20:07] <manjaro-web|4062> is manjaro good? :)
[20:20:13] <mtn> heh
[20:20:26] <manjaro-web|4062> i used ubuntu before but the laptop battery time was terrible
[20:20:54] <mtn> manjaro-web|4062: go for a lighter desktop and lighter apps
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[20:22:58] <Yoda_> Im using lxqt
[20:23:04] <Yoda_> using netbook kernel
[20:23:30] <Yoda_> works great
[20:23:48] <Yoda_> with the battery
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[20:28:48] <manjaro-web|4062> xfce or enlightenment?
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[20:31:13] <manjaro-web|4062> mtn, Yoda_ thx for your answeres
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[20:41:56] <karenmcd> Hello room, I swapped out an OLD ati card and installed a slightly newer nvidia card. Manjaro will no longer boot up. After flashing the Manjaro loading screen briefly, I see a flashing curser at the top left, and it doesn
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[20:45:18] <karenmcd> 't do anything. Is there a way to fix that from the live-dvd or would it be possible to re-install the old card and use pacman to install the nvidia drivers, reboot and re-install the nvidia card?
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[21:25:03] <n3s> hi
[21:25:21] <n3s> i want to update my system, last time I tried it was august
[21:25:32] <n3s> i'm getting this error after trying both yaourt -Syu and pacman -Syu
[21:25:41] <n3s> error: failed to prepare transaction (could not satisfy dependencies) :: linux314-nvidia-340xx: installing nvidia-340xx-utils (340.101-1) breaks dependency 'nvidia-340xx-utils=340.96'
[21:25:57] <n3s> it's also telling me some other stuff about packages that need to be removed
[21:26:25] <n3s> https://paste.fedoraproject.org/558394/14871039/
[21:26:27] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/0Mz7Qb] #558394 • Fedora Project Pastebin
[21:26:36] <n3s> thanks for any help
[21:27:10] <badbodh> since august ? goodness me
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[21:27:16] <n3s> lmao yeah
[21:27:47] <badbodh> on a rolling you'll probably end up breaking a lot more. gotta update at least once a month and keep up with the changes
[21:28:08] <badbodh> et's see
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[21:30:00] <badbodh> n3s› remove the utils package and -Syu again, yes to all
[21:30:03] <n3s> what happens if I just try pacman -R linux314-nvidia-340xx
[21:30:14] <inre035_> anyone recommend a usb wifi adapter that works well in manjaro?
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[21:30:22] <badbodh> that's the opposite of what we want to do here.
[21:30:45] <n3s> lol
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[21:30:55] <badbodh> just remove the utils package and -Syu again, yes to all
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[21:31:11] <badbodh> let's hope that does the trick
[21:31:17] <n3s> so I have to remove nvidia-340xx-utils
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[21:31:25] <badbodh> yes
[21:31:53] <n3s> linux310-nvidia-340xx: removing nvidia-340xx-utils breaks dependency 'nvidia-340xx-utils=340.96'
[21:32:00] <badbodh> n3s› hang on
[21:32:45] <badbodh> okay. you;re using old kernels. just add utils to exception in pacman.conf, don;t upgrade it
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[21:33:12] <n3s> uhm I remember trying to update to new kernels but having errors all over the place
[21:33:27] <badbodh> IgnorePkg   = nvidia-340xx-utils
[21:33:37] <badbodh> that should do the trick
[21:33:39] <n3s> thanks
[21:34:43] <n3s> yup pacman stopped complaining
[21:34:54] <n3s> how do I (safely) update to new kernels?
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[21:35:26] <badbodh> no point in switching kernels till they cause you pain or panic
[21:35:55] <badbodh> righteous way would be using mhwd-kernels command. Go through all mhwd articles on manjaro wiki
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[21:37:36] <badbodh> righteous way would be using mhwd-kernels command. Go through all mhwd articles on manjaro wiki
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[21:37:59] <badbodh> ^ repeating. got disconnected
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[21:38:08] <badbodh> no point in switching kernels till they cause you pain or panic
[21:38:24] <badbodh> n3s› ^
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[21:39:19] <n3s> yeah thank you
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[21:43:37] <manjaro-web|5807> hi, i'm booting manjaro from a liveusb, press "Launch Installer", then the installer opens for a brief moment and immediately closes/crashes. the live session works fine, only the installer closes down. any idea what's going on?
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[23:26:27] <manjaro-web|5872> I installed 16.10 with XFCE a couple of days ago, but I'm unable to configure xfce4-notifyd. It stays in top right corner with a rather ugly yellow color no matter what I do.
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[23:29:43] <optics> settings > notifications
[23:29:50] <optics> what happens if you change it there?
[23:31:21] <manjaro-web|5872> I have tried that a few times and restarted. Nothing changes. Does it have anything to do with my theme? I use Numix-Frost, and it has it's own xfce-notify-4.0 folder.
[23:32:02] <optics> probably try with default theme
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[23:34:22] <manjaro-web|5872> I tried many different themes now, including default one. No difference. I did not log out though.
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[23:37:40] <manjaro-web|5872> Heh, when I manually start /usr/lib/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd it works. So I guess the daemon is not started automatically...
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[23:57:17] <optics> whats the file search tool xfce thunar uses by default?
[23:57:40] <optics> thought it was catfish or something
[23:58:48] <manjaro-web|6347> Catfish yes. Looks like python.
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