January 30, 2017 
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January 30, 2017 [00:00:15] <superbia> his video about some program that takes any game controller[00:00:20] <superbia> and turns it into keyboard emulator[00:00:23] <superbia> fucking epic[00:00:33] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #manjaro[00:00:44] <superbia> i had some leftover toy game controllers, and my mom wanted to throw it into bin, and i was like NO STOP its my music remote[00:01:11] <superbia> then i demonstrated how i control 80% of my arch with a toy controller, and her face was wow[00:01:25] <superbia> and she said: "Dont you have to study or something"[00:01:59] <deadguy> "you'll never get a job with a hairy neck like that. go shave"[00:03:07] <rhg135> appareantly not, the 7660g uses a NI gpu core[00:04:10] <rhg135> catalyst it is then :([00:04:26] <inahd> goddamn catalyst ruined my life[00:04:35] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:04:58] <rhg135> some of us know how to flip between them :D[00:05:11] <rhg135> too bad it does suck in some areas[00:06:15] <superbia> night boys[00:06:18] <superbia> lads Joseph[00:06:22] <superbia> Joseph: lad[00:06:28] <superbia> night mnemonic[00:06:31] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[00:06:34] <Joseph> See you[00:06:37] <Joseph> D'oh[00:06:58] <rhg135> sbviosuly the actual solution is to buy hw from this past year[00:07:06] <rhg135> but I/m cheap[00:07:49] <inahd> i had to delete a bunch of stuff before i could install another driver. you can switch between multiple?[00:09:02] *** Guifre <Guifre!250f5b4e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.15.91.78> has left #manjaro[00:09:53] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: gn.)[00:10:00] <rhg135> ydah[00:10:03] <rhg135> yeah*[00:10:09] <rhg135> it's easy enough[00:11:49] <Celmor> I guess I won't use keepass instead of keepassx2 then, just too many issues, even with your suggestions rhg135[00:12:38] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[00:12:42] <Celmor> theme completely messed up (even if I clear corresponding env vars), no copy-paste into a terminal, shortcote to close application doesn't work on it, etc.[00:13:35] *** Dearu <Dearu!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Dearu)[00:13:48] <rhg135> something is really weird then, but ok Celmor[00:13:52] *** k0mat3 <k0mat3!~manjaro-k@2a00:d780:42a0:3400:6345:c4a8:2e62:5086> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:14:12] <rhg135> and it works on catalyst, let's see how well though[00:14:33] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[00:14:56] <Celmor> with shortcut I mean hotkey from my DE to kill an application[00:15:21] <rhg135> I agree it works great on my desktop, not on my laptop[00:17:50] <Joseph> I love shortcuts[00:18:01] <Joseph> I assigned F4 to a nifty drop-down terminal[00:18:10] <Joseph> Which then loads screenfetch the first time I drop it down[00:18:11] <Joseph> ;)[00:18:29] *** brylaaa <brylaaa!~manjaro-k@31-178-86-97.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:19:34] <rhg135> meh[00:19:38] <Joseph> What?[00:19:56] <rhg135> it has warse 3d[00:20:15] <rhg135> in opengl games[00:20:30] <deadguy> can someone highlight me a couple times? i'm testing something[00:20:37] <rhg135> deadguy:[00:20:40] <rhg135> deadguy:[00:20:44] <rhg135> deadguy:[00:20:52] <deadguy> thanks[00:21:02] <rhg135> np[00:21:35] <rhg135> back to ati[00:21:41] *** manjaro-web|2285 <manjaro-web|2285!44e1a2c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.225.162.201> has joined #manjaro[00:22:12] *** manjaro-web|2285 <manjaro-web|2285!44e1a2c9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.225.162.201> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:22:58] <deadguy> might have to quit myself and be back shortly...[00:23:07] *** deadguy <deadguy!~alex@190.55.44.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Wee!)[00:24:29] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[00:26:06] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-179-199.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[00:26:25] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-088-075-203-147.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:27:27] *** deadguy <deadguy!~alex@190.55.44.132> has joined #manjaro[00:29:08] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@a83-132-55-18.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:30:51] <nicklas_> örjan[00:33:42] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:37:44] *** meskarune is now known as Lola[00:38:34] *** Fir <Fir!~chris@96-95-50-93-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #manjaro[00:39:20] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@dih241.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:40:09] *** Fir <Fir!~chris@96-95-50-93-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:40:21] *** Fir <Fir!~chris@96-95-50-93-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has joined #manjaro[00:41:43] <deadguy> can someone highlight me, again?[00:42:38] <Joseph> deadguy:[00:42:40] <nicklas_> deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy deadguy d[00:44:19] <deadguy> hahah[00:44:37] <deadguy> thanks though, that's an interesting result[00:46:48] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[00:50:01] *** meep <meep!~meep@2601:5cc:8301:9750::3> has joined #manjaro[00:50:52] *** meep <meep!~meep@2601:5cc:8301:9750::3> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:50:54] *** negen <negen!~negen@46.166.190.167> has joined #manjaro[00:50:54] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v negen[00:51:34] <negen> it seems that qt5 borked the gtk2 themes again[00:51:47] *** Thorax <Thorax!~Thorax@94.197.121.123.threembb.co.uk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:52:08] *** Fir <Fir!~chris@96-95-50-93-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:52:20] <badbodh> o'really?[00:52:37] <negen> which is odd because if setting qt5ct as a environment then nothing works but launching the programs to use qt5ct would work[00:52:55] <negen> but it seems there is a new plugin which works called qt5gtk2[00:53:21] <negen> so maybe it is just that qt5ct had not been updated to reflect the changes made[00:53:45] <badbodh> which branch are you on ?[00:55:10] <negen> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5670 @ 2.93GHz (1.60GHz) • Memory: 22.9 GiB Total (22.5 GiB Free) • Storage: 32.0 GB / 531.8 GB (499.9 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GM200 [GeForce GTX 980 Ti] @ Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Mirror Port Link 1 • Uptime: 30m 11s[00:55:31] <negen> (499.9 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA Corporation GM200 [GeForce GTX 980 Ti] @ Intel Corporation Xeon 5600 Series Mirror Port Link 1 • Uptime: 30m 11s[00:55:37] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fixglpernvllpiqr> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:55:47] <negen> but anyways I got it kinda working for now[00:56:19] <negen> but odd thing is that cmst when auto started in openbox would not use the gtk theme[00:56:31] <negen> but it i closed it and opened it again it would[00:57:02] <negen> so i just changed the autostart to QT_QPA_PLATFORMTHEME=qt5gtk2 cmst -m &[00:57:03] <badbodh> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ManjaroLinux "Fringilla" 16.10 • CPU: Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU T4300 @ 2.10GHz (2.10GHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.7 GiB Total (2.7 GiB Free) Swap: 4.0 GiB Total (4.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 287.0 GB / 492.0 GB (205.1 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controller Hub •[00:57:03] <badbodh> Uptime: 1h 56m 53s[00:57:21] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[00:57:41] <badbodh> hmm[00:57:47] <negen> I really like the old deloaren theme[00:58:13] <negen> nice mix of blues grays and blacks[01:00:35] *** deadguy <deadguy!~alex@190.55.44.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[01:00:37] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:02:19] *** deadguy <deadguy!~alex@190.55.44.132> has joined #manjaro[01:02:31] <negen> qupzilla was starting to hurt my eyes there for a while[01:02:39] <negen> good thing i set out to figure this issue out[01:02:50] <badbodh> good to know[01:03:00] <negen> i just wish that people would make qt5 themes look half way decent[01:03:16] <negen> that way i would not have to play around with this stuff[01:06:48] <negen> http://imgur.com/a/x4eGI[01:06:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/fTyUvU] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[01:09:07] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:09:26] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[01:10:56] <badbodh> so what m i looking at ?[01:11:13] *** tmsbrdrs__ <tmsbrdrs__!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: tmsbrdrs__)[01:11:33] *** tmsbrdrs__ <tmsbrdrs__!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[01:11:59] <negen> just the theme i use[01:12:08] <negen> with my qt5 programs[01:12:16] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@181.49.93.157> has joined #manjaro[01:12:32] <badbodh> kk[01:12:35] *** Sv1 <Sv1!~sveinn@42-83-126-149.ftth.simafelagid.is> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:12:53] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@181.49.93.157> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:12:58] <rhg135> what theme is that?[01:13:57] <badbodh> delorean[01:14:03] <negen> an older delorean theme[01:14:04] <rhg135> ah ok[01:14:09] <negen> by killhellokitty[01:14:11] *** Stuzz <Stuzz!~Stuzz@124-170-187-8.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[01:15:13] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@99.196.11.39> has joined #manjaro[01:15:42] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@93-82-26-242.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:15:58] *** chomwitt <chomwitt!~chomwitt@athedsl-31597.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[01:16:17] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[01:16:39] <rhg135> switching to and from catalyst is pretty easy now[01:17:27] <rhg135> just wish it autoremoved catalyst-server[01:17:37] *** deadguy <deadguy!~alex@190.55.44.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:18:26] *** deadguy <deadguy!~alex@190.55.44.132> has joined #manjaro[01:18:46] <negen> I kinda wish i would have bought the amd rx470 laptop instead of the 1070 just for comparisons[01:19:00] <negen> but the rx470 only had a 15" screen and i wanted a 17"[01:20:17] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[01:23:05] *** deadguy <deadguy!~alex@190.55.44.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:23:35] *** tmsbrdrs__ <tmsbrdrs__!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:25:43] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has quit IRC (Quit: Quite)[01:27:13] *** rumflump <rumflump!~weechat@unaffiliated/olscumpy> has joined #manjaro[01:29:19] *** deadguy <deadguy!~alex@190.55.44.132> has joined #manjaro[01:35:26] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[01:35:32] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1E45921F62771CA059E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[01:36:00] *** manjaro-web|9872 <manjaro-web|9872!becef45f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.206.244.95> has joined #manjaro[01:36:58] <rhg135> it's funny that mesa >> catalyst[01:37:17] <manjaro-web|9872> guys im trying to install manjaro, but the installer is seemingly stuck at 20% running unpackfs, it's been like that for about 8 minutes, should i be worried?[01:37:20] <rhg135> this game actually is playable now[01:39:15] *** devgiant <devgiant!~devgiant@unaffiliated/devgiant> has joined #manjaro[01:39:21] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has joined #manjaro[01:39:53] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:39:54] <manjaro-web|9872> still stuck, i think ill have to reboot to a now broken / partition[01:40:16] <manjaro-web|9872> so i hope next time I boot into the liveusb the installation actually goes through[01:40:17] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[01:40:22] *** devgiant <devgiant!~devgiant@unaffiliated/devgiant> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:40:48] *** manjaro-web|9872 <manjaro-web|9872!becef45f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.206.244.95> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:43:09] <rhg135> and I was just about to say that plasma has been really stable for me...[01:43:27] <rhg135> meh, I'm on testing so I expected that[01:44:01] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~eddie@mot04304.swm.uni-mannheim.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[01:46:04] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3F73B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:46:51] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132119149.public.t-mobile.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:48:07] *** ziggys <ziggys!~ziggys@gateway/tor-sasl/ziggys> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[02:01:45] *** dodgejcr <dodgejcr!~dodgejcr@24-40-239-211.fidnet.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:04:09] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@103.227.71.175> has joined #manjaro[02:06:52] *** dodgejcr <dodgejcr!~dodgejcr@24-40-239-211.fidnet.com> has joined #manjaro[02:11:36] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:19:31] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[02:23:04] *** madjaro <madjaro!becef45f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.206.244.95> has joined #manjaro[02:24:22] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~elijah@67.148.122.154> has joined #manjaro[02:27:19] <madjaro> o i just installed manjaro gnome and it is completely broken, login screen only shows a black screen with a white rectangle in the middle, tty shows nothing, black screen. it seems graphical mdoe only updates when you go from tty to graphical, so i logged. and im greeted by another black screen where i can only see the cursor. i have no ethernet co[02:27:19] <madjaro> nnection so i cant perform an upgrade either[02:27:53] <madjaro> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/solved-gnome-broken-with-black-screen-after-stable-update-2016-10-23-manjaro-16-10-final-release/11483 apparently this problem is at least 3 months old and yet it seems to not have been fixed out of the box[02:27:54] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Og8x7e] [SOLVED] GNOME Broken with Black Screen after [Stable Update] 2016-10-23 - Manjaro 16.10 Final Release - Updating - Manjaro[02:28:46] <madjaro> also, even after logging in tty keeps being black[02:29:10] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:29:40] *** deadguy <deadguy!~alex@190.55.44.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Wee!)[02:36:20] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[02:36:45] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-178-000-206-161.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[02:37:24] *** Joseph <Joseph!~Penskins@gateway/tor-sasl/penskins> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:40:32] <madjaro> i dont even understand why manjaro ships with deprecated drivers, this has been pretty dissapointing[02:41:29] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[02:43:24] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[02:43:27] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[02:44:05] <rhg135> in uses the current X drivers[02:44:25] <rhg135> nobody can make amd/nvidia sane :P[02:45:03] <rhg135> though ati works great for some amd chips[02:45:23] <madjaro> if my bug is the same as the one in the forums then it is used catalyst which is deprecated, manjaro shold be coming with mesa drivers[02:46:23] <rhg135> it's deprecated because it's bad, but amd is greedy and the replacement is only for newer chips[02:47:16] <rhg135> mhwd has this delusion that non-free drivers are always better, true[02:47:28] *** manjaro-web|9348 <manjaro-web|9348!4b8b4da8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.139.77.168> has joined #manjaro[02:47:58] <madjaro> this is a 5 year old card, i'd hardly call it new, and at this point much more users would be benefited by mesa drivers[02:48:14] <rhg135> indeed[02:48:29] <madjaro> at most there should be a white list with cards that work better with catalyst and everything else left to sue mesa, later if they want to use somethign else it is their problem[02:49:15] <rhg135> yeah, I'm not a fan of the installer opting for non-free all the time[02:49:24] *** hade <hade!~manjaro-k@182.253.200.18> has joined #manjaro[02:49:32] <rhg135> doesn't always help[02:50:10] <madjaro> like in my case where i can't even see tty[02:50:54] <rhg135> tbh, I've never seen that except on gentoo when I forgot some steps[02:51:20] <rhg135> I'm just talking about 3d performance[02:51:32] <manjaro-web|9348> Hi, I'm having problems getting virtualbox i run the command it says to after install and it gives me "FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.41-1-MANJARO"[02:51:58] <rhg135> manjaro-web|9348: install the module too[02:51:59] *** LyrixCaz <LyrixCaz!~Aniki@172.56.3.103> has joined #manjaro[02:52:37] <manjaro-web|9348> rhg135: how do i do that?[02:52:44] <rhg135> linux44-virtualbox-?[02:53:25] <manjaro-web|9348> thank you[02:53:50] <rhg135> I'm not sure of the actual name[02:54:03] <rhg135> it was surprisingly easy though[02:54:05] <manjaro-web|9348> tab complete gave it to me ^-^[02:56:11] <rhg135> I'm really liking manjaro though; very desktop centric with a good package manager and recent versions[02:58:54] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[02:59:00] *** manjaro-web|9348 <manjaro-web|9348!4b8b4da8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.139.77.168> has left #manjaro[03:00:19] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[03:04:05] *** ashledombos_ <ashledombos_!~manjaro-k@37.168.162.213> has joined #manjaro[03:04:34] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[03:10:41] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@103.227.71.175> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[03:11:19] *** 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At that point, my system is unresponsive to everything short of the power button.[04:11:10] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[04:11:38] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[04:11:57] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[04:12:14] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:12:50] <Kalis> My end goal is to run the 4.9 kernel so that my graphics card (an rx460) can function properly with amdgpu.[04:12:58] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[04:19:04] *** deadguy <deadguy!~alex@190.55.44.132> has quit IRC (Quit: Wee!)[04:20:04] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has left #manjaro[04:20:38] *** Isaac <Isaac!~vcore@176.123.3.250> has quit IRC (Quit: read error)[04:26:24] *** day|flip <day|flip!~days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[04:33:47] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[04:35:39] *** notthisjef <notthisjef!55d457e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.212.87.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:36:54] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@122.15.16.169> has joined #manjaro[04:39:45] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[04:41:46] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[04:49:31] *** infinital <infinital!uid144856@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ycghejchsglgfimt> has joined #manjaro[04:53:24] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has left #manjaro[04:55:50] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[05:02:42] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:07:20] *** day|flip <day|flip!~days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:08:55] *** day|flip <day|flip!~days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[05:10:18] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-e164-0-366b-6f5c-2988-7f27.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[05:16:16] <day|flip> ooo. linux kernel 4.9 :) oo this will only get better for my skylake cpu[05:17:10] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[05:18:50] <rhg135> inkscape is being really buggy today[05:19:10] <rhg135> disappearing objects that reappear when I scroll[05:19:54] <rhg135> either that or not sleeping yesterday is getting to me lol[05:20:46] <dodgejcr> day|flip: 4.10 runs decently well on my skylake[05:20:47] <day|flip> I wonder why gstreamer-1.0-libav got auto installed. eh just remove it[05:21:06] <day|flip> :)[05:21:14] <rhg135> 4.10 is rc no?[05:21:16] *** dodgejcr <dodgejcr!~dodgejcr@24-40-239-211.fidnet.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[05:21:16] *** dodgejcr <dodgejcr!~dodgejcr@unaffiliated/dodgejcr> has joined #manjaro[05:21:16] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v dodgejcr[05:21:21] <dodgejcr> yeah[05:21:40] <rhg135> I shall wait then[05:21:46] <dodgejcr> I had some usb issues in 4.9[05:21:53] <day|flip> ya. but I just have to wait. my new my distro is now running 4.9.6. im happy[05:21:56] <dodgejcr> so went to 4.10 and all is well.[05:22:00] <rhg135> eh me always[05:22:03] <rhg135> I blame hp[05:22:13] <dodgejcr> lol this is an hp[05:22:21] <rhg135> even the fw can't pick it up sometimes...[05:22:28] <dodgejcr> first one Ive owned in probably 15 years[05:23:15] <rhg135> it works I guess[05:23:28] <rhg135> just annoying to use sometimes[05:24:08] <dodgejcr> Typically I would agree but this has been nothing but awesome. I realized that hp/dell/toshiba are decent with their top-of-the-line models[05:24:15] <dodgejcr> their cheap shit.... nah[05:24:17] <rhg135> I also dabble with recording and have an usb digital piano[05:24:52] <rhg135> have to keep moving the port till it works[05:24:57] <day|flip> dodgejcr: no longer using gnome or kde? switch back to awesome?[05:24:59] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:25:10] <dodgejcr> day|flip: on deepin right now. Been this way for a while[05:25:20] <dodgejcr> but yeah awesome is installed as well for dev sessions[05:25:20] <day|flip> why deepin?[05:25:30] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[05:25:31] <dodgejcr> idk, I like it[05:25:33] <rhg135> I liked deepin until I didn't[05:25:54] <rhg135> it's not kwin and python2[05:25:59] <day|flip> i like deepin clasic pannel[05:26:02] <rhg135> it's 2017, let it go[05:26:06] <dodgejcr> lots of changes with the settings and some other stuff got added in testing repo[05:26:25] <rhg135> python 3 is old now[05:26:49] <day|flip> ... what. there now python 4?[05:26:50] <rhg135> I mean, stable and developed, but not new[05:27:11] <rhg135> I mean, it's been out long enough[05:27:28] <dodgejcr> few years right?[05:27:34] <rhg135> yeah[05:27:57] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[05:28:06] <rhg135> python 3 is bad enough[05:28:19] <rhg135> I guess it could be worse[05:28:30] <rhg135> it could use js[05:28:41] * rhg135 shudders[05:28:41] <day|flip> i used two app that need python 3. youtube-dl and qutebrowser[05:29:33] <rhg135> where, "1" x 10 is "1111111111"[05:30:47] <day|flip> this remind me of a japaness show were you can't laugh unless want get spank with long stick. this guy was counting from 1 to 100[05:31:14] *** Kalis <Kalis!~Kalis@140-186-48-183-dynamic.midco.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitting)[05:31:16] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[05:31:31] <day|flip> by time he got to 100. he said "10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10"[05:31:46] <dodgejcr> mmm qutebrowser :D[05:32:07] <rhg135> I just use ff[05:32:15] <rhg135> I enjoy the sync[05:32:28] <day|flip> i used qutebrowser for better stream video with mpv[05:32:30] <rhg135> I have 5+ devices[05:32:36] <rhg135> it gets hectic[05:33:03] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[05:33:18] <rhg135> I also dabble in web dev, so I have various installed[05:34:30] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@195.94.147.147.dyn.plus.net> has joined #manjaro[05:34:36] <dodgejcr> day|flip: http://imgur.com/a/zS26y also about 30 key shortcuts to sort of emulate a tilingWM[05:34:37] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/PcO9mR] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[05:36:06] <day|flip> oo so white i need sunglasses[05:36:14] <day|flip> ^.~[05:36:21] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[05:36:28] <dodgejcr> lol its not that white in person[05:36:29] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[05:37:02] <day|flip> lol[05:37:07] <rhg135> there's a nifty kwin script for tiling[05:37:23] <rhg135> eased the i3 withdrawal[05:37:25] <dodgejcr> but thats the new deepin control center. Im impressed with it but still no 4k scaling so I still use 2560x1440 :/[05:37:58] * rhg135 likes kwin btw :D[05:38:09] <dodgejcr> rhg135: I tend to find those scripts/applets annoying now. I can set it up myself and do decently well. Works better than trying to work through the limitation of someone else's idea of how it should be implemented[05:38:28] <rhg135> but, I'm lazy[05:38:34] <dodgejcr> I like kwin. Just tired of K stuff right now[05:38:37] <day|flip> dodgejcr: awesome conky setup[05:38:41] <day|flip> btw[05:38:43] <dodgejcr> Still use plasma on the desktop tho[05:38:44] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:39:03] <dodgejcr> day|flip: https://www.reddit.com/r/Conkyporn/comments/5ehig3/modified_tree_conky_20_arch/[05:39:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/27a04S] (link was unresponsive: https://www.reddit.com/r/Conkyporn/comments/5ehig3/modified_tree_conky_20_arch/)[05:39:19] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[05:39:34] <dodgejcr> pulled from there. Slight modifications and still need to work on aligning the right side a bit better[05:40:45] <day|flip> i just bookmark it. I take a look latter[05:41:59] <dodgejcr> well I need to cook something. My stomach is bitching. Back later[05:42:56] <day|flip> be sure to drink lots of beer to feel this bitch up[05:43:04] <day|flip> that bitch**[05:44:10] <day|flip> fill that bitch**[06:25:10] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:25:32] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[06:30:53] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:36:30] * Vialas_ waves to #manjaro[06:36:43] <Vialas_> i wish you all the very best... ive made the switch to lubuntu[06:36:58] * Vialas_ doges the tomatoes and bricks thrown at him[06:37:12] <Vialas_> have a great time everyone thanks for your help and best of luck for 2017 to you all :)[06:37:17] * Vialas_ part bye bye[06:37:22] *** Vialas_ <Vialas_!~Vialas@C-61-69-199-100.for.connect.net.au> has left #manjaro ("bye bye")[06:46:25] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@36.72.68.243> has joined #manjaro[06:46:53] *** eizua <eizua!~eizua@112.204.28.197> has joined #manjaro[06:47:45] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:50:41] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@36.72.68.243> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:50:54] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@36.72.68.243> has joined #manjaro[06:53:54] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[07:05:41] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-186-75.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[07:06:20] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dupcbsybqyxhivyb> has joined #manjaro[07:07:22] <rhg135> someone needs to send him some headache medicine :P[07:13:11] *** space_otter <space_otter!~space_ott@2602:306:32e8:cf60:a284:ed24:cb0f:59> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:14:30] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[07:16:34] <dodgejcr> yeah working with apt is quite annoying[07:17:29] <day|flip> apt get?[07:18:20] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:21:44] *** jkendrick <jkendrick!~jkendrick@97-85-212-221.static.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[07:21:56] * Jeannie sighs. Does anyone know a non CLI non GTK browser that's neither closed source nor webkit/chromium/blink based?[07:22:55] <Stuzz> Firefox[07:23:14] <Jeannie> That would be GTK[07:23:26] <Stuzz> Oh?[07:23:50] <Jeannie> It'S worse, it's not only GTK, but even GTK3[07:24:01] *** jkendrick <jkendrick!~jkendrick@97-85-212-221.static.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:24:07] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@206.158.5.12> has joined #manjaro[07:24:12] <Stuzz> ok[07:24:18] <xangua> Konqueror?[07:24:32] *** jkendrick <jkendrick!~jkendrick@97-85-212-221.static.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[07:24:40] <xangua> Khtml still exist?[07:24:42] <Stuzz> I'd say that's webkit, but don't actually know[07:26:30] <rhg135> It's not webkit[07:26:42] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@78.250.64.36> has joined #manjaro[07:26:44] <Jeannie> So it's blink?[07:26:54] <rhg135> Khtml[07:27:09] <Jeannie> Thought that was outphased in KDE3[07:27:10] <Stuzz> Opera 12.x[07:27:22] <rhg135> Nope[07:27:35] <Jeannie> Opera 12 is as dead as can be[07:27:56] <xangua> Opera is dead?[07:27:56] <rhg135> It's still around, maybe not feature added[07:28:26] <Jeannie> Konqueror is too much for just a browser[07:28:42] <xangua> You want a light browser?[07:28:48] <day|flip> it not going be around much longer too[07:29:22] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@78.250.64.36> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[07:29:29] <Stuzz> Looks like this is a helpful list - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers[07:29:29] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/tCKwKm] Comparison of web browsers - Wikipedia[07:29:32] <Jeannie> I want a fully featured browser wit working adblocker that is neither blink/webkit/crhomium based nor using GTK[07:29:36] <day|flip> Jeannie: why not used Firefox[07:29:42] <day|flip> it gecko[07:29:42] <Jeannie> Cause it uses GTK3[07:29:43] <Stuzz> Sort by layout engine and go from there[07:29:55] <day|flip> gtk3 is api not the web engine[07:30:02] <xangua> Jeannie: rekonq[07:30:14] <Jeannie> Have you ever tried GTK3 applications under a qt5 DE with a dark theme?[07:30:23] <day|flip> ya[07:30:28] <day|flip> kde will do just fine[07:30:34] <Jeannie> You'll get very interresting effects like white text on white text boxes[07:31:09] <Stuzz> Tried Brave?[07:31:12] <day|flip> then why not used qutebrowser. it will be your last resort[07:31:27] <day|flip> Stuzz: that blink base[07:31:40] <rhg135> You can use a matching gtk3 theme[07:31:44] <Stuzz> Yeah, I saw... "Gecko, Blink" accorinding to that list (whatever that means)[07:31:52] <day|flip> anything base on chromium is blink[07:32:00] <rhg135> That'll break things anyway[07:32:03] <Stuzz> Yes, I know[07:32:13] <Jeannie> Brave is chromium based too[07:32:15] <day|flip> Stuzz: that the web engine it used to get the web to work[07:32:22] <Stuzz> Yes, I know[07:32:44] <Stuzz> Just the "Gecko, Blink" part was curious is all[07:32:50] <Jeannie> I hate chrmoium clones[07:32:58] <Stuzz> Use Chromium then[07:33:06] <Jeannie> I hate chromium too[07:33:14] <Stuzz> Use Gnome then[07:33:35] <Jeannie> I hate gnome even more than chromium[07:33:50] <day|flip> Jeannie: if your not so picky then give qutebrowser a try. it qt5 python base web browser. starting to get support for qt-webengine[07:33:59] <Stuzz> Maybe IE under WINE is your best bet then?[07:34:24] <Jeannie> F*Ck MS[07:34:34] <Stuzz> I suppose Pale Moon is GTK?[07:34:36] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[07:34:36] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[07:34:41] <Jeannie> Yes, it is GTK[07:34:53] <day|flip> links is awesome and light[07:35:03] <Jeannie> No gui[07:35:30] <day|flip> with or without gui?[07:35:41] <Jeannie> No cli apps for me[07:35:45] <day|flip> lol[07:35:59] <Jeannie> I'm a lazy mouse pushing person[07:36:44] <day|flip> Jeannie: Q U T E B R O W S E R < - _ - _ - turst me. or firefox-kde[07:36:57] <m4sk1n> #otter-browser is Qt-based but with WebKit/Blink, you can choose between them[07:37:21] <m4sk1n> But first you should install 'qt5-webkit-ng' package[07:37:29] <m4sk1n> If you want to use WebKit[07:37:32] <Jeannie> the aur says the following about qutebroser: "A keyboard-driven, vim-like browser"[07:37:40] <xangua> There's maxthon for Linux (¿)[07:37:44] <day|flip> and it a good thing[07:37:51] <Jeannie> No I explicistely do not want to use webkit[07:37:58] <day|flip> xangua: that blink and stupidly out dated[07:38:13] <Jeannie> 1[07:38:40] <m4sk1n> one day there will be added support for other engine in Otter Browser, but we must wait[07:38:58] <Jeannie> maxthon uses GTK[07:39:05] *** infinital <infinital!uid144856@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ycghejchsglgfimt> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[07:39:43] <day|flip> then switch to Edge Browser it awesome. your going to love it since there only two other browser that qt Otter and quzilla both are qt-webkit. witch have better html5 support then gtk webkit[07:40:26] <Jeannie> qupzilla does not have a reliable adblocker[07:40:53] <day|flip> then make your browser. other wise learn not to be too picky about it[07:41:13] <xangua> So we're back at Firefox!¿[07:41:23] <Jeannie> No Firefox for me[07:41:31] <Jeannie> I can't stand it at all[07:41:39] <m4sk1n> day|flip: on Otter you can choose between QtWebKit and QtWebEngine (blink)[07:41:53] <xangua> But... But... Red pandas[07:42:04] <Jeannie> Otter's adblock is dysfunctional[07:42:30] <day|flip> i know. tell that to jeannie who don't want anything usedful till she make it her self[07:42:36] <xangua> Moz://a[07:42:45] <Stuzz> I think Opera 12.x is your only option[07:42:58] <day|flip> that gtk2[07:42:59] <Jeannie> That's closed source and outdated...[07:43:10] <Stuzz> Details, details[07:43:33] <Stuzz> Seems the answer to your questions then is: No.[07:43:49] <Jeannie> Indeed. That seems to be the answer[07:43:50] <day|flip> netsurf it have it own web engine no need for adblock since limited JS support[07:44:15] <m4sk1n> Jeannie: can you say something more about this adblock or write about in on #otter-browser ?[07:44:24] <rhg135> W3m is fine in that case[07:44:26] <m4sk1n> *about it[07:44:33] <Jeannie> It just does not block any ads[07:44:52] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:45:10] <day|flip> then your awnser will be to remove the internet[07:45:24] <day|flip> since nothing fits your needs[07:45:27] <Jeannie> yaourt -Rcnsu internet[07:45:53] <day|flip> that or pacman -Rcs base[07:45:55] <xangua> Shut it down and turn off the lights when you're out[07:45:58] <Jeannie> Indeed, there doesnt seem to be any usable browser that suits my needs[07:46:25] <Jeannie> All that webkit/blink/gtk3 crap....[07:47:03] <day|flip> then why are you not making a better web engine that will work with qt5?[07:47:22] <rhg135> I used to hate nice things too[07:47:22] <Jeannie> Because I am no coder[07:47:29] *** Emdek <Emdek!~quassel@adak23.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[07:47:34] *** monteguelfo <monteguelfo!~monteguel@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has joined #manjaro[07:47:38] *** monteguelfo <monteguelfo!~monteguel@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has left #manjaro[07:47:57] <Emdek> Jeannie: I've heard that you have some problem ;-)[07:48:08] <day|flip> Jeannie: suck it up and install hostsblock from aur and used w/e browser you want[07:48:37] <Jeannie> hostsblock blocks coplete hosts[07:49:01] <day|flip> It have a huge list of site it block[07:49:19] <Jeannie> Yes. It doesn't only block ads...[07:49:52] * Emdek come here just to know what is "dysfunctional" about content blocking in Otter Browser[07:50:28] <Jeannie> It doesn't block ads, thats all, just a minor issue[07:50:44] <Emdek> have you... enabled it?[07:50:49] <Jeannie> Yes[07:50:55] <Jeannie> Of course[07:51:00] <Emdek> show me list of active profiles then[07:51:11] <Jeannie> How would I do that?[07:51:15] <day|flip> there a reason why I used uBlock Origin. It the best ad blocker you can used. it source is on github. view the stuff out your self[07:51:52] <Jeannie> Wich browsers support ublock origin?[07:52:02] <Emdek> Jeannie: none is active by default, and this question means that most likely you haven't enabled them, see Tools menu[07:52:05] <xangua> Firefox, chromium[07:52:09] <day|flip> firefox all them chromium base[07:52:30] <Jeannie> the ones I refuse to use, I see[07:52:32] <day|flip> palemoon[07:52:36] <day|flip> gtk2[07:52:44] <Jeannie> Unusable since V 26[07:53:19] <Jeannie> Gives me 100% cpu load on all cores on certain websites[07:53:22] <day|flip> ahh i rmemeber their being ff base that is also gtk2 as will gui set up is weird[07:53:34] <Jeannie> The palemoon UI is fine[07:54:03] <Emdek> Jeannie: http://i2.simplest-image-hosting.net/picture/screenshot-20170130-075331.png[07:54:03] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/dy9BAE] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[07:54:13] <day|flip> im talking about a different browser. been around longer then palemoon[07:54:30] *** thid <thid!~thid@188.121.19.232> has joined #manjaro[07:55:03] <day|flip> www.seamonkey-project.org[07:55:18] <day|flip> it ui is different it ff but gtk2[07:55:19] <Jeannie> That'S more than just a browser[07:55:28] <Jeannie> It'S a compete internet suite[07:55:55] <day|flip> what other chose do you have?[07:56:02] <eizua> Anyone know if AppImage files can be used in Manjaro (e.g., https://keepassxreboot.github.io/download#linux)?[07:56:03] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bj0NNZ] Download - KeePassXC[07:56:15] *** Emdek <Emdek!~quassel@adak23.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.)[07:56:30] *** Emdek <Emdek!~quassel@adak23.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[07:56:44] *** Emdek <Emdek!~quassel@adak23.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has left #manjaro[07:56:54] <Jeannie> I have no choice obviously,[07:57:15] <xangua> Jeannie: it no longer comes with the "full"suite[07:57:33] <xangua> Mail, IRC, etc. Are now add-ons or something[07:58:21] <Jeannie> I'll have a look at it[07:59:37] <Jeannie> Interresting, it asks me on first start if I want to import email settings[08:00:35] <Jeannie> And as it's gtk, all menu texts are tiny under plasma5[08:00:37] <day|flip> eizua: https://github.com/keepassxreboot/keepassxc/wiki/Install-Instruction-from-Source[08:00:38] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/zrJ1h6] Install Instruction from Source · keepassxreboot/keepassxc Wiki · GitHub[08:01:03] <day|flip> Jeannie: gtk2[08:01:06] <Jeannie> And it still has all the mail and newsgroups stuff included[08:01:29] <eizua> day|flip: Thanks! I just found the AUR package for that. Not sure why I didn't see it first.[08:02:26] <day|flip> it all good. aur is a hit or miss at time. don't expect it to run perfect[08:03:42] <eizua> day|flip: No worries[08:04:03] * Jeannie removes seamonkey again[08:04:28] <day|flip> you could run opera12 under wine[08:04:50] <day|flip> then drink wine[08:05:27] <Jeannie> I could install opera-legacy from aur, then I woudln't have to install wine[08:06:01] <day|flip> then install flash player beta to wine the wineO then drink more wine since that never will stop poring. it bad to waste wine you know?[08:06:07] *** Stuzz <Stuzz!~Stuzz@124-170-187-8.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Vote Ziltoid!)[08:06:22] <Jeannie> I don't drink wine[08:07:01] <Jeannie> And I won't nstall opera-lagacy[08:07:26] <day|flip> your a B A D G I R L :) ^.~[08:07:51] <Jeannie> Being picky makes me bad?[08:08:15] <day|flip> ya. since all you have is your cell phone for browsing the web[08:08:48] <Jeannie> I don't own an internet capable phone[08:08:58] <day|flip> it called wifi[08:09:26] <day|flip> don't tell me you have a flip phone?[08:09:28] <thid> why not compile opera urself ?[08:09:28] <Jeannie> My non smart mobile phone does not have wifi[08:10:25] <day|flip> you could save money for a tablet[08:10:44] <Jeannie> I hate touch devices[08:10:52] <thid> :O[08:11:05] *** LyrixCaz <LyrixCaz!~Aniki@172.56.3.103> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:11:10] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@180.245.203.214> has joined #manjaro[08:11:14] <day|flip> I starting to understand you. You hate the world and everything in it.[08:11:25] <Jeannie> No[08:11:29] <thid> day|flip: perhaps Jeannie preferes joysticks[08:11:41] <day|flip> She does[08:11:42] <Jeannie> I only hate all that "modern" 24/7 connectd crap[08:11:43] <thid> instead of simple touching[08:11:45] <xangua> You could browse the Internet like RMS does[08:12:03] <Jeannie> That stinking old fundamentalist?[08:12:06] <day|flip> Jeannie: are you using "Dail up"[08:12:16] <Jeannie> No, adsl[08:12:35] <xangua> Jeannie: well I'm beginning to think you might be related[08:13:12] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@36.72.68.243> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:13:12] <Jeannie> I could consider this a massive personal insult[08:13:14] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[08:13:37] <m4sk1n> Otter Browser über alles![08:14:07] <Jeannie> try to set the new tab url in otter[08:14:15] <day|flip> i been fine with qutebrowser for streaming and forum used without much issue[08:15:28] <Jeannie> I definitively will not use this: https://www.qutebrowser.org/doc/img/completion.png[08:15:29] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/h1d9iF] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[08:15:54] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@180.245.203.214> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:16:04] <day|flip> it so far the best web browser for mpv setup web streaming[08:16:13] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@180.245.203.214> has joined #manjaro[08:16:26] <day|flip> just be sure you don't have gstreamer libav installed[08:16:35] <Jeannie> I don't do streaming or mpv[08:16:58] <day|flip> you don't watch any video of any format?[08:17:22] <Jeannie> Sometimes, on vimeo in my browser[08:17:48] <day|flip> so you don't hate the web site that much[08:17:58] <Jeannie> vimeo?[08:18:16] <day|flip> or www[08:18:38] <Jeannie> I actually visit some websites[08:18:54] <day|flip> daily or once a week?[08:19:04] <Jeannie> And it annoys the hell out of me that qupzilla's adblock is so fucked up[08:20:23] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132067149.public.t-mobile.at> has joined #manjaro[08:20:47] <m4sk1n> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/aa/Otter_Browser_%28Breeze_style%29.png it's the only way how browser can look ;)[08:20:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/RC2DoA] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[08:21:12] <Jeannie> No otter for me[08:21:50] <day|flip> m4sk1n: go to cnn and take a screenshot over their :)[08:21:52] <Jeannie> And no ugly boring win95 like breeze theme either[08:21:57] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@180.245.203.214> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[08:22:21] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@180.245.203.214> has joined #manjaro[08:22:42] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@206.158.5.12> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:22:54] <day|flip> breeze is a better looking default theme over it old 4.x[08:23:10] <Jeannie> Let me show you my desktop[08:23:15] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[08:23:20] <day|flip> k[08:23:30] <day|flip> i show you my terminal[08:24:06] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~king1337@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:25:10] <Jeannie> http://imgur.com/a/CQH36[08:25:11] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/IyYmBH] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[08:25:16] <Jeannie> No breeze theme for me[08:26:16] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@36.72.68.243> has joined #manjaro[08:26:35] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[08:26:48] *** rethus <rethus!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-ec9c-0-91b7-265b-5963-9f6e.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[08:26:49] <Jeannie> I can't use light themes due to a slight light oversensitivity.[08:26:52] <day|flip> http://www.ultraimg.com/image/p52o[08:26:52] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/xSPWdR] stsirc - UltraIMG[08:26:56] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-e164-0-366b-6f5c-2988-7f27.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[08:27:45] <Jeannie> That's not lightly colored. But its nothing i'd use[08:28:14] <day|flip> Jeannie: that remind me about the old kde 3.5 :)[08:28:19] <day|flip> not in a bad way[08:28:39] <day|flip> 4.0 drove me nuts when i first used it[08:29:16] <day|flip> i love st. it such a awesome little terminal[08:29:25] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@180.245.203.214> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:29:57] <day|flip> wee I'm board. I'm listin to the Hanson brother :)[08:30:11] * Jeannie looks at konsole[08:30:26] <day|flip> konsole ok[08:30:35] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@36.72.68.243> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:30:45] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[08:30:58] <Jeannie> But I neither access the web nor use irc in konsole[08:31:00] <day|flip> gnome-terminal suck ass. same for most the other gtk one. xfce-terminal is ok[08:31:26] <Jeannie> GTK sucks in generay[08:31:31] <Jeannie> general[08:31:42] <day|flip> that why i used st[08:31:56] <day|flip> qterminal is meh. not ok or bad[08:32:41] <Jeannie> I am actually looking for a web browser, not for a terminal emulator[08:33:08] <day|flip> i know. just going off topic since their nothing in web browsing land[08:33:16] <day|flip> :)[08:33:39] <Jeannie> Yes, unfortunately you're right with this statement about web browsers[08:33:40] *** e <e!e@freenode/staff/spy.edk> has quit IRC (Quit: edk)[08:33:56] *** edk <edk!e@freenode/staff/spy.edk> has joined #manjaro[08:34:31] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[08:37:45] <day|flip> unless there a qt browser where you can add site to file or it ads names. so you end up having add everything your self. but it give you what you wan't just take time to have your way :)[08:39:49] <Jeannie> Adding every singel ad manually to my filter list requires much too much time[08:41:54] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:46:18] <day|flip> and. in the end. you have it your way. just take time. or you could have a script that auto read a web site and look for ad/ads and auto add it to the list. less work. :)[08:46:44] *** hade <hade!~manjaro-k@182.253.200.18> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:47:20] * Jeannie sighs[08:47:25] *** hade <hade!~manjaro-k@182.253.200.18> has joined #manjaro[08:47:59] <day|flip> im sorry. but uBlock orgin have baby to much[08:48:36] <Jeannie> ublock origin is only available for browsers that are incompatible with me[08:49:06] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[08:49:24] <day|flip> i just tested cnn. i have not notice any ads yet[08:49:31] <day|flip> this is on qutebrowser[08:50:03] <day|flip> again. I know you don't want keyboard heavy browser but. it looking like it may work out for you[08:50:32] <Jeannie> I definitively do not, I repeat I do not want qutebrowser[08:51:36] <day|flip> but it cute and kawaii at the same time ^.^[08:51:56] <day|flip> =^.^=[08:52:05] <Jeannie> Whatever kawaii is[08:52:15] <day|flip> jappness for cute[08:52:34] <Jeannie> So it's cute and cute?[08:52:40] <day|flip> to me[08:52:49] <Jeannie> To me it's ugly[08:53:03] <day|flip> that the point[08:53:27] <day|flip> i used to used the hell out of the dwb back when it was updating[08:53:44] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!manjaro-kd@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-ntbokrimmfvsqukv> has joined #manjaro[08:54:01] *** hedgie <hedgie!~hedgie@2602:306:3144:1e10:652d:b973:841:f5> has joined #manjaro[08:54:56] <day|flip> it fun to experment on new thing. so long you don't want to programe it. other then programming your brain to understand to used something new that you never tried before. i think it will be ok[08:55:12] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:55:53] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-088-075-203-147.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[08:57:37] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-088-075-203-147.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:58:59] <day|flip> why i like qutebrowser. it the best option out there for mpv streaming video. 2nd i don't used all them keyboard shortcut. just o, O, m, d, u, i and custom short cut for C, V for my mpv streaming option :) rest i used my mouse for[08:59:26] <day|flip> the only con is it have weird cpu usedage[09:00:21] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[09:02:27] * Jeannie looks at her i7[09:03:53] <Jeannie> Setting an own new tab page confuses users, use speed dial instead.[09:03:54] * day|flip Look at my intel Nuc[09:04:05] <Jeannie> Interresting answer from a browser dev[09:04:07] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@99.196.11.39> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[09:04:13] <thid> looking at my 2x xeon[09:04:27] * thid looking at my 2x xeon[09:04:33] <thid> forgot about /me ;([09:04:35] <Jeannie> Nice[09:04:36] <day|flip> lol[09:04:55] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3E66D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:06:54] * Jeannie curses in foeign languages about all browsers being shitty[09:07:35] <day|flip> witch language will that be :)[09:07:43] <Jeannie> Breizh[09:07:49] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[09:09:31] <thid> use lynx![09:09:46] <day|flip> so you lived in France?[09:10:06] <Jeannie> No[09:10:08] <Jeannie> And no[09:11:13] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[09:11:17] <day|flip> she said hell no to all cli web browser[09:11:17] <thid> maybe dildo ? it was light[09:11:40] <day|flip> can't remember if that used it own web engine or not[09:11:56] <thid> oh it was dillo not dildo[09:12:14] <day|flip> i just know it was too old school looking for me[09:12:39] <thid> how about midori ?[09:12:42] <Jeannie> OMFG[09:12:44] <Jeannie> No![09:12:46] <day|flip> lol[09:12:50] <day|flip> im gone[09:12:52] <day|flip> :)[09:12:55] <day|flip> lmao[09:12:59] <thid> ehh :([09:13:08] <Jeannie> Completely alien look[09:13:35] <day|flip> thid: no gtk3, engine base is no for webkit and blink[09:13:55] <thid> ms edge![09:13:58] <Jeannie> fltk looks uber ugly[09:14:09] <day|flip> :)[09:14:23] <day|flip> the loops keep going on and on and on[09:14:24] <thid> ohh what about flock ?[09:14:45] <Jeannie> Not even in aur[09:15:12] <day|flip> that was a bitch to even to install by source[09:15:35] <thid> hmm[09:15:40] *** namron <namron!~quassel@37.48.80.94> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:15:44] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@188-22-5-154.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[09:15:56] *** namron <namron!~quassel@37.48.80.94> has joined #manjaro[09:15:59] <day|flip> and that is webkit[09:16:21] <thid> oh maybe aurora?[09:16:29] <thid> arora*[09:16:47] <day|flip> is that even using qt5 yet?[09:16:48] <Jeannie> qt4?[09:17:08] <thid> :/[09:17:14] <thid> pale moon?[09:17:42] <Jeannie> I used pale moon for quite a while[09:17:45] <day|flip> her cpu is using 100% on a i7cpu[09:18:08] <Jeannie> But with V 26+ it maxes out all my cpu cores[09:18:39] <thid> hmmm....xombrero?[09:18:46] <Jeannie> XOMWHAT?[09:18:51] <Jeannie> Sorry, caps lock[09:18:53] <day|flip> lol more webkit[09:19:21] <thid> :([09:19:23] <thid> https://sourceforge.net/projects/vimprobable/ ?[09:19:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ydGlE0] Vimprobable download | SourceForge.net[09:19:40] *** shazzr <shazzr!~shazzr@ti0086a430-4003.bb.online.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:19:53] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[09:20:19] <Jeannie> No vim like keyboard controlled browser for me[09:20:33] <thid> how about -> https://minbrowser.github.io/min/ ?[09:20:33] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bpD2Ry] Min | A smarter, faster web browser[09:20:56] <day|flip> i forgot about that html guy that kinda like blink but not[09:21:13] <day|flip> min used html. some how not blink[09:21:23] <day|flip> kinda cool[09:21:30] <day|flip> very limited but cool[09:21:39] *** shazzr <shazzr!~shazzr@ti0086a430-4003.bb.online.no> has joined #manjaro[09:22:01] <Jeannie> Only limited[09:22:12] <day|flip> Simi keyboard heavy. but it not that hard to learn[09:22:25] <Jeannie> Simi?[09:22:47] <day|flip> it used contral+v ect not vim like at all[09:22:59] <inahd> well well, flat earth theory.[09:23:16] <inahd> pretty interesting stuff[09:23:34] <day|flip> i have tested out so many web browser it stupid. same for de/wm[09:24:07] <Jeannie> I have settled with plasma5 after getting annoyed by GTK for so many years[09:24:29] <Jeannie> Teh only thing I need now is a web browser that matches my needs[09:24:31] <thid> I use deepin desktop[09:25:05] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132067149.public.t-mobile.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:25:07] <day|flip> min is html/electron base(atom editor)[09:25:08] <Jeannie> I know i'll hate deepin by simply looking at it[09:25:34] <day|flip> she a kde 3.5 gal[09:25:42] <Jeannie> Plasma5 here[09:26:06] <day|flip> still using 3.5 base them on plasma5[09:26:10] <Jeannie> But I am definitvely a pre smartphone ui person[09:26:11] <day|flip> theme**[09:28:59] *** HaNDsDoWn <HaNDsDoWn!~martin@p200300C973C9B60B4448E6160C11E530.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:31:25] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:34:31] *** edk is now known as e[09:35:02] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1E45921F62771CA059E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[09:35:07] <Jeannie> Tried arora just to see how it works. It coredumps, that's all it does.[09:36:33] *** HaNDsDoWn <HaNDsDoWn!~martin@p200300C973C9B60B4448E6160C11E530.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:38:47] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3E66D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:00:51] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1E45921F62771CA059E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[10:03:18] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[10:11:58] *** malfane <malfane!~dabozz@c-98-245-1-140.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[10:15:44] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[10:21:13] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[10:22:14] *** manjaro-web|3205 <manjaro-web|3205!d9765dba@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.217.118.93.186> has joined #manjaro[10:22:37] <manjaro-web|3205> What a crap &[10:22:47] <thid> ?[10:23:00] <manjaro-web|3205> wher i am ?[10:23:08] <thid> irc[10:23:20] <manjaro-web|3205> sorry...[10:23:44] *** manjaro-web|3205 <manjaro-web|3205!d9765dba@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.217.118.93.186> has left #manjaro[10:27:26] <day|flip> will that was random[10:30:12] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.202.53.216> has joined #manjaro[10:34:16] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zldjeehxolyzggpf> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[10:36:05] <thid> hmm...I should do some shopping on g2a[10:36:23] <day|flip> g2a?[10:36:30] <thid> yeah[10:36:44] <day|flip> never heard of it[10:36:45] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:38:27] <day|flip> ahh. I think i seen this site before on some y2 ad by the user[10:39:03] *** darkbit <darkbit!~darkbit@119.95.205.80> has joined #manjaro[10:39:18] <thid> ehhh...dragon age 2 gona cost me abit :([10:39:21] <day|flip> thid: does it work?[10:39:38] <thid> day|flip: yeah got abit of games from g2a[10:39:39] <day|flip> the key that the give[10:40:03] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[10:40:13] <thid> bought shadow of mordor and few others on steam[10:40:13] <day|flip> ahh cool. so it not the bs that game stop does[10:41:10] <thid> u even have g2a shield that its worth getting if u buy something expensive[10:41:23] <thid> it give 100% chance that if the key wont work u get money back[10:42:30] <day|flip> so it only work on steam?[10:42:45] <thid> nope[10:42:50] <thid> origin. uplay etc[10:43:28] *** monteguelfo <monteguelfo!~monteguel@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:43:46] <thid> thinking about buying https://www.g2a.com/mafia-ii-steam-cd-key-global-1.html[10:43:48] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bKTHsb] Mafia II STEAM CD-KEY GLOBAL - G2A.COM[10:44:24] *** monteguelfo <monteguelfo!~monteguel@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has left #manjaro[10:44:33] <day|flip> i hear the 3 game was meh[10:44:48] <thid> well thats 2[10:45:37] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dupcbsybqyxhivyb> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[10:46:21] <day|flip> I had to help my firend beat the car race part in the first game[10:46:49] <day|flip> friend**[10:46:51] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@194.108.3.14> has joined #manjaro[10:46:58] * day|flip I need bloodly sleep[10:46:58] <thid> anyway got dragon age 1 full. On my list to get theres also full dragon age 2, dragon age 3, mass effect 1, mass effect 2[10:47:22] <thid> so for now gona focus on da2 and da3[10:47:36] <day|flip> i never got the chance to play mass effect[10:47:44] <thid> tho I still have shitton of achivments to get in da1 xD[10:48:25] <day|flip> who care about achivments? best to enjoy the game as it is[10:48:58] <thid> day|flip: well dragon age are usefull[10:49:04] <thid> achivments*[10:49:16] <thid> since u have alot of choices[10:50:08] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@5.78.97.127> has joined #manjaro[10:50:31] <day|flip> does it have alot of ending?[10:50:31] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@5.78.97.127> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:50:47] <day|flip> like "Clue" the movie :)[10:51:25] <thid> uhm[10:52:45] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@5.78.97.127> has joined #manjaro[10:52:47] <thid> u have like 6endings[10:53:26] <thid> oh w8...maybe 7[10:53:32] *** eizua <eizua!~eizua@112.204.28.197> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:53:40] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@5.78.97.127> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:54:23] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:55:03] *** monteguelfo <monteguelfo!~monteguel@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:55:34] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ltycdjhwamvzqlji> has joined #manjaro[10:56:24] <thid> day|flip: if u like rpg and u did like baldur's gate its worth playing dragon age 1 with all dlc[10:56:52] <thid> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=10457[10:56:54] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Snq0WH] WineHQ - Dragon Age: Origins[10:57:24] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[10:58:14] <thid> oh on that list I also need to add full witcher 3 at some point[10:58:15] <day|flip> i never played baldur gate. I remember my friend in 7th grade having debate about it and everquest[10:58:50] <day|flip> lol yes add more games. more and more. it shall never stop[10:58:50] *** monteguelfo <monteguelfo!~monteguel@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has left #manjaro[10:59:02] <thid> day|flip: best rpg I have ever play. Tho for now I prefere to spend alot of hrs on dragon age[11:01:24] <day|flip> my best rpg even though i never finish it. I should. just never bother to. "sky of arcadia" still own the game for my game cube[11:02:05] <thid> ah that one[11:02:13] <thid> u should srsly try da1[11:02:43] *** aries_liuxueyang <aries_liuxueyang!~xyl@27.186.13.13> has joined #manjaro[11:02:46] <thid> like I love that part when u can have some rather interesting choices[11:02:51] <day|flip> maybe. idk. i never care for skyrim.[11:03:16] <day|flip> even though i do like some of it sound track and covers[11:03:18] <thid> I'm not talking about skyrim[11:03:51] <day|flip> what is it combat system does it used?[11:04:46] <thid> for example, in da u can talk with prisoner, he ask u for food and water, if u talk with him longer he will tell u about key for chest. U can either get him that food, ignore him or....kill him, take key. Once u kill him guard stop u and u can just say it was self defence xD[11:04:56] <thid> group/turn based[11:05:01] <thid> like baldur's gate[11:05:27] <day|flip> ahh[11:05:28] <thid> u have team of 4 ppl and u can either play just main and rest will use AI[11:05:40] <thid> or u order everyone[11:05:49] <thid> u can pause game and give orders[11:05:54] <day|flip> so it can be complex[11:06:09] <thid> or just go live and let ur teamates use AI[11:06:51] *** redeemed <redeemed!~rd@82.208.188.40> has joined #manjaro[11:06:56] *** Marc3l <Marc3l!~Marc3l@2a01:4f8:151:22a3::4> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in)[11:07:28] <day|flip> i may give the game a shot. but i need to finish build my system. but it may not get done till the hay days of summer[11:07:44] <day|flip> will i got the case and the fans i want for it[11:07:57] <day|flip> but i also want that nintendo switch[11:08:12] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:08:51] <day|flip> i got a good gpu in my old computer. but i think my cpu is we too old now[11:08:53] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[11:10:33] *** roch_ <roch_!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[11:11:14] <day|flip> thid: you till me if this is to old to play game on "amd phenom ii x4 965" i can't used am3+ cpu[11:11:19] <roch_> o/[11:11:44] <day|flip> hi roch_[11:12:45] *** aries_liuxueyang <aries_liuxueyang!~xyl@27.186.13.13> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:13:08] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.153> has joined #manjaro[11:15:11] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:19:46] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:20:22] *** Marc3l <Marc3l!~Marc3l@2a01:4f8:151:22a3::4> has joined #manjaro[11:20:51] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.153> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[11:23:06] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.202.53.216> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[11:23:36] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[11:24:44] *** hade <hade!~manjaro-k@182.253.200.18> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:27:48] <thid> http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-965-vs-AMD-Athlon-X4-845/606vsm84491[11:27:51] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EV7lVB] UserBenchmark: AMD Athlon X4 845 vs Phenom II 965[11:28:22] <thid> and I play on max with 60fps[11:35:21] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@5.78.97.127> has joined #manjaro[11:35:31] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@5.78.97.127> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:38:40] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@dhcp-19-19.cs.uit.no> has joined #manjaro[11:39:25] <day|flip> you used the older athlon?[11:39:39] <day|flip> thid: ^^[11:42:03] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:42:07] <day|flip> i see. little bit higher clock speed[11:42:14] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[11:42:18] <thid> its not that old[11:42:23] <thid> I bought it recently[11:42:27] <thid> its on fm2+[11:42:33] <day|flip> ahh[11:42:41] <thid> TDP 65[11:42:44] <thid> I rly like it[11:42:59] <day|flip> i have a amd2/2+ mobo[11:43:02] <thid> the games I often play work at 60fps[11:43:08] <thid> so I'm good[11:43:50] <day|flip> i have a good gpu[11:44:00] <day|flip> nvidia gtx 950[11:44:02] <thid> I have rx460[11:44:20] <day|flip> my cpu is just to old for the rx series[11:44:30] <thid> w8 wtf...[11:44:35] <thid> http://www.benchmark.pl/ranking/porownanie/amd-radeon-rx-460-vs-nvidia-geforce-gtx-950[11:44:37] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/O7NXsu] AMD Radeon RX 460 vs nVIDIA GeForce GTX 950 | wydajność, ranking, porównanie[11:45:31] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/MrJKrH] UserBenchmark: AMD RX 460 vs Nvidia GTX 950[11:45:53] <thid> http://hwbench.com/vgas/radeon-rx-460-vs-geforce-gtx-950[11:45:55] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/gopCYd] Radeon RX 460 vs GeForce GTX 950[11:47:39] <thid> so ur "good" graphic card is not that great compared to mine o_O[11:47:57] <Strit_Laptop> Question: Do I really need to have Oxygen theme installed, just to have a sound theme enabled by default?[11:48:10] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:48:21] <thid> Strit_Laptop: sound theme is so wrong[11:49:08] <Strit_Laptop> Yeah. I want something that matches Breeze more[11:49:21] <day|flip> thid: i just can't used the rx on my phenom ii 965. it just too old for it. reason why i went with 950[11:51:30] <day|flip> why im waitting for ryzen cpu to come out. them bam. going all out with amd. best rx that i can get[11:51:45] <day|flip> i want amd to still be around.[11:58:01] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[11:59:03] <day|flip> watching video with people eatting is not a good idea when it 4am[11:59:38] <day|flip> i should already know this by now. but to lazy to remind myself not to[12:02:52] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:03:07] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[12:06:08] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:06:28] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[12:07:39] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[12:08:23] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[12:16:27] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@193.140.194.77> has joined #manjaro[12:16:57] *** manjaro-web|8400 <manjaro-web|8400!b6954033@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.182.149.64.51> has joined #manjaro[12:17:40] *** manjaro-web|8400 <manjaro-web|8400!b6954033@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.182.149.64.51> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:17:54] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[12:20:12] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:23:53] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@193.140.194.77> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[12:23:57] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@193.140.198.48> has joined #manjaro[12:30:44] *** malfane <malfane!~dabozz@c-98-245-1-140.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[12:38:18] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@181.114.125.50> has joined #manjaro[12:38:41] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:45:47] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[12:45:54] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has joined #manjaro[12:45:59] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:46:24] *** big-fat-boy <big-fat-boy!5cf6d81d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.92.246.216.29> has joined #manjaro[12:51:56] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:52:20] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[12:52:25] <big-fat-boy> Hi, guys! Please, help me solve my problem. Inthe installing manjaro I chose Russian language as default. Some time system worked good, but then interface partly become English. No, it's not problem for me, but it's large problem for peoples that using this computer.[12:53:19] <thid> maybe not everything is translated[12:53:23] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~eddie@mot04304.swm.uni-mannheim.de> has joined #manjaro[12:53:52] <big-fat-boy> Few time ago, I noticed, that, root user have fully russian interface[12:54:40] <big-fat-boy> In settings all russian packages are downloaded and picked[12:59:13] <big-fat-boy> maybe i should edit language from terminal?[12:59:48] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[13:00:32] *** Sudo_Reboot <Sudo_Reboot!~Sudo_Rebo@host-92-2-189-192.as43234.net> has joined #manjaro[13:01:30] *** Sudo_Reboot <Sudo_Reboot!~Sudo_Rebo@host-92-2-189-192.as43234.net> has left #manjaro[13:02:55] *** freecores <freecores!~freecores@ip30-67-214-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Offline)[13:03:34] <negen> big-fat-boy, what locale do you use ?[13:04:08] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:04:10] <negen> something like ru_RU.UTF-8 UTF-8 ?[13:04:24] <big-fat-boy> yep[13:04:53] <negen> whats the output of locale -a ?[13:05:03] <big-fat-boy> one second[13:05:10] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[13:06:34] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@151.51.103.176> has joined #manjaro[13:06:40] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:06:43] <big-fat-boy> C[13:06:43] <big-fat-boy> en_US.utf8[13:06:43] <big-fat-boy> POSIX[13:06:43] <big-fat-boy> ru_RU.utf8[13:06:43] <big-fat-boy> C en_US.utf8 POSIX ru_RU.utf8[13:06:57] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@151.51.103.176> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:06:57] <big-fat-boy> god damn[13:07:02] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[13:08:27] <big-fat-boy> so 4 uper str are right[13:08:44] <day|flip> i notice in gnome setting. it can set a different language from your default[13:09:01] <big-fat-boy> i've xfce[13:09:06] <day|flip> ahh[13:09:07] <negen> you can look into the file /etc/locale.gen and see if en_US.utf8 and make sure that there is a commit in front of it[13:09:25] <big-fat-boy> ok[13:09:47] <day|flip> negen: stuff like this you need to reboot the computer right?[13:10:03] <negen> make sure that only ru_RU.utf8 is uncommitted[13:10:35] <negen> need is not the word i would use[13:11:14] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[13:11:29] <negen> after you double check that file there and if you need to edited it then after you save it you must run locale-gen[13:11:39] <day|flip> will. just not sure. stuff like updating config in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ sure[13:12:02] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:12:19] <big-fat-boy> yea, us_US.utf8 was uncommented[13:12:32] <big-fat-boy> so, need i reboot computer?[13:12:41] <negen> not yet and probably not at all[13:12:48] <negen> did you run locale-gen ?[13:13:04] <big-fat-boy> now[13:13:39] <big-fat-boy> error[13:13:44] <negen> localectl set-locale ru_RU.UTF-8[13:14:13] <negen> probably need to use sudo before locale-gen[13:14:29] <negen> sudo locale-gen should be without error[13:14:38] <big-fat-boy> https://thepasteb.in/p/O7h5zX3Yz44Sq https://thepasteb.in/p/1jhn2m8g9V8FB[13:14:38] <big-fat-boy> no no[13:14:40] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/tx1GYH] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs![13:14:50] <big-fat-boy> problem at launch[13:15:22] <negen> mistake is the added bits[13:15:23] <big-fat-boy> locale.gen: line 14: en_US.UTF-8: command not found[13:15:23] <big-fat-boy> locale.gen: line 387: ru_RU.UTF-8: command not found[13:15:23] <big-fat-boy> locale.gen: line 14: en_US.UTF-8: command not found[13:15:41] *** rorro <rorro!~rorro@h-170-152-58.a163.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[13:17:26] <negen> how was the command typed[13:17:48] <big-fat-boy> ?[13:18:13] *** rudha <rudha!~rudha@36.252.21.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #manjaro[13:18:34] <negen> sudo locale-gen?[13:18:41] <big-fat-boy> nope[13:18:50] <big-fat-boy> one second[13:18:58] *** rumflump <rumflump!~weechat@unaffiliated/olscumpy> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:19:02] <big-fat-boy> i know this system not at all[13:19:20] <big-fat-boy> i mean i dont know it at all :)[13:19:58] <big-fat-boy> ok[13:20:04] <big-fat-boy> generation complete[13:20:16] <big-fat-boy> so, reboot now?[13:20:29] <negen> i would not[13:20:47] <big-fat-boy> leng dont changed[13:20:56] <negen> now localectl set-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8[13:21:02] <negen> opps[13:21:19] <negen> now localectl set-locale LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8[13:22:03] *** Mikerhinos <Mikerhinos!~mikerhino@vic03-h02-176-145-45-161.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[13:22:12] <negen> i want some vokda pops[13:22:39] <big-fat-boy> system stay eng[13:22:55] <negen> http://www.drinkinginamerica.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/scandic-pop-e1360253496661.jpg[13:22:57] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/aUwR5R] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[13:23:09] <negen> localectl set-locale LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8[13:23:21] <big-fat-boy> i would give you it[13:23:30] <big-fat-boy> but i haven't[13:23:35] <negen> nano /etc/locale.conf[13:23:51] <negen> LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8[13:23:59] <big-fat-boy> what the nano?[13:24:11] <negen> text editor[13:24:18] <big-fat-boy> i use gedit[13:24:19] <big-fat-boy> )[13:24:35] <negen> ok gedit /etc/locale.conf[13:24:44] *** day|flip <day|flip!~days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:25:00] <big-fat-boy> there is already LANG=ru_RU.UTF-8[13:26:04] <Mikerhinos> I have a pretty annoying "bug" (not sure it is one) : my mouse double or even triple click when I click on it. Weird thing is that it's listed multiple times (same with keyboard) when I do a "sudo xinput -list" command :/[13:26:41] *** crzyp3ck <crzyp3ck!~crzyp3ck@unaffiliated/crzyp3ck> has joined #manjaro[13:26:46] <crzyp3ck> hi all.[13:27:05] <big-fat-boy> i had this trouble, mikerhinos[13:27:14] *** rudha <rudha!~rudha@36.252.21.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:27:17] <negen> LANG= source /etc/profile.d/locale.sh[13:27:23] <negen> try that in command line[13:27:29] <big-fat-boy> i thing mouse is broken[13:27:38] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@host217-41-41-241.in-addr.btopenworld.com> has joined #manjaro[13:28:02] <big-fat-boy> still eng[13:28:08] <crzyp3ck> I did manage to install manjaro i686 but now after grub and then in the end of boot process it would stuck on starting hostname ... pt dispatcher service.[13:28:28] <Mikerhinos> big-fat-boy, it would make the keyboard appear twice in xinput ? (with different id)[13:28:34] <crzyp3ck> all before lines start with [ok][13:28:55] <negen> Mikerhinos, you can try switching to libinput[13:29:04] <crzyp3ck> ?[13:29:22] *** rudha <rudha!~rudha@36.252.21.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #manjaro[13:29:39] <negen> big-fat-boy, try rebooting now then[13:30:37] <big-fat-boy> crzyp3ck, maybe reinstall sys? at installing was some errors?[13:30:43] <negen> i am pretty sure that xinput is dying or dead or something about libinput being better[13:31:06] <big-fat-boy> +negen, ok[13:31:28] *** big-fat-boy <big-fat-boy!5cf6d81d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.92.246.216.29> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[13:31:41] <crzyp3ck> big-fat-boy, no. it said "installation completed you could reboot"[13:33:04] *** Dearu <Dearu!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[13:33:52] *** big-fat-boy <big-fat-boy!5cf6d81d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.92.246.216.29> has joined #manjaro[13:34:29] <big-fat-boy> negen, you're the best[13:34:43] <big-fat-boy> it's working[13:34:55] <big-fat-boy> thank you:)[13:35:04] *** negen <negen!~negen@46.166.190.167> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:36:16] <Mikerhinos> negen, Looks like libinput is already installed, and if I do a "sudo libinput-list-devices", keyboard and mouse are listed twice too :/[13:37:20] <crzyp3ck> anysolution[13:37:23] <crzyp3ck> s?[13:37:57] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:38:00] <big-fat-boy> hm,no yet[13:41:13] <Mikerhinos> crzyp3ck, did you try booting on a previous kernel ? Like 4.4.2 (I had problems booting on fresh install with default kernel, switched to 4.4.2, updated system, installed 4.9, and booted no problem on 4.9 with Nvidia driver)[13:42:38] <crzyp3ck> Mikerhinos, It is a real fresh install on fresh hard drive. the 16.10-9-xfce-i686[13:42:55] <crzyp3ck> how could I change the kerenel?[13:43:01] <crzyp3ck> chroot?[13:43:41] <big-fat-boy> off site haven't stable 4.4.2 version :[13:44:03] <Mikerhinos> crzyp3ck, Maybe try to boot on a previous kernel, when on grub you have to go down on "Advanced options"[13:44:57] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:44:58] <Mikerhinos> I installed the Cinnamon Manjaro distro, and had like 4 kernels installed[13:45:19] <thid> o_O[13:45:48] <crzyp3ck> It just says "Starting hostname servie" and stops right then and there.[13:46:20] <crzyp3ck> there is a _ blinking at the next line at the end of screen[13:47:04] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has joined #manjaro[13:47:12] <Mikerhinos> not sure but it looks like the problem I had, did you installed with live USB and choosing "boot with proprietary drivers" or something like that ?[13:47:55] *** darkbit <darkbit!~darkbit@119.95.205.80> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:48:37] <crzyp3ck> I only have 4.4.33 x32 kernel in advanecd option[13:49:29] <crzyp3ck> Mikerhinos, with LiveDVD and non-free boot the install the manjaro[13:50:42] *** negen <negen!~negen@46.166.190.167> has joined #manjaro[13:50:42] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v negen[13:51:22] <big-fat-boy> negen, what's mean mode +v?[13:51:50] <Mikerhinos> crzyp3ck, as it's a fresh install, maybe you can try to boot with the default choice (the upper one) using only free drivers, it will be easily installed once booted from HDD using the manjaro settings manager[13:52:38] <crzyp3ck> Mikerhinos, you mean I have to install manjaro again?[13:53:03] *** big-fat-boy 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joined #manjaro[14:44:50] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[14:45:01] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[14:45:29] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[14:45:48] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:46:15] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[14:47:33] *** baer_ <baer_!8c4e640b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.140.78.100.11> has joined #manjaro[14:48:24] *** baer_ <baer_!8c4e640b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.140.78.100.11> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:48:50] <Dearu> Anyone has managed to make wayland work on KDE?[14:49:03] *** baer_ <baer_!8c4e640b@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.140.78.100.11> has joined #manjaro[14:49:27] <badbodh> wayland developers claim to have[14:49:51] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@host217-41-41-241.in-addr.btopenworld.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:50:05] <thid> and only them[14:50:23] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-147.net-89-2-35.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[14:51:00] <Dearu> Ok let me ask it another way. Haw anyone using manjaro KDE tried wayland?[14:51:02] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:51:35] <b0n> is wayland even ready to use?[14:51:49] <tefter> i tried with gnome it is usable now[14:52:10] <b0n> is there any advantages to using it[14:52:18] <thid> who cares if u still need to use X for 90% of app[14:52:26] <thid> none atm[14:52:36] <tefter> i think that it is same[14:52:39] <b0n> i have a book from 1986 about X[14:52:39] <thid> coz wayland still use X[14:52:45] <Joseph_> I'd use it but Conky doesn't work on it apparently[14:52:46] <thid> to run apps[14:52:50] <b0n> x should have been depreceated about 10 years ago[14:52:54] <b0n> thats why im asking.[14:52:56] <tefter> conky works on gnoem wayland[14:53:00] <tefter> tried it[14:53:03] <Joseph_> tefter: Have you tried?[14:53:05] <tefter> yes[14:53:29] <Joseph_> Huh that's odd, I tried and it didn't show up, I asked in #archlinux , someone said it's because Wayland doesn't support it o.0[14:53:31] <tefter> guake have to be set shortcut[14:53:43] <tefter> as in Wayland one app can't still keyboard from other app[14:54:27] <tefter> cairo-dock doesn;t works but they are making wayland version[14:54:32] <Joseph_> I see[14:54:35] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:54:49] *** Joseph_ is now known as Joseph[14:55:54] <b0n> how does xfce run on wayland?[14:57:09] <Strit_Laptop> b0n: probably not at all. :P[14:57:45] <Strit_Laptop> Can't imagine there has been much improvement in the xfce in the last couple of years.[14:57:53] <b0n> pffh im lookin on google and theres screenshots of wayland xfce on arch :p[14:58:40] <Strit_Laptop> It might "open", but probably won't have much functionality. Not even Plasma has much functionality yet.[14:59:14] <b0n> fair enough[14:59:14] <Strit_Laptop> b0n: from March last year: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=210775[14:59:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/xtkLjP] [SOLVED] XFCE & Wayland / Newbie Corner / Arch Linux Forums[14:59:46] <b0n> someday wayland will replace x..[15:00:00] <Strit_Laptop> "someday" is still a ways out. :)[15:00:11] <b0n> then again thats like saying PUPA will replace GRUB[15:00:16] <b0n> (which it just became grub2)[15:00:22] <b0n> :/[15:00:38] <tefter> gnome i think only is ready for wayland[15:00:49] <Strit_Laptop> Yep. Gnome is doing pretty good there[15:01:10] <b0n> oh, what about mir.. did mir ever come out?[15:01:25] <Strit_Laptop> Mir is being tested on Ubuntu 17.04 I think.[15:01:33] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:01:34] <b0n> ayyee. awesome :D[15:02:28] <Joseph> Damn, Arch is phasing 32-bit out[15:02:54] <negen> pupa became grub though[15:03:35] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[15:03:58] <Strit_Laptop> Joseph: I wish they would adopt ARM officially, now that they are phasing out i686.[15:04:08] <Joseph> Yeah, that would be a cool move.[15:04:25] *** ashledombos_ <ashledombos_!~manjaro-k@37.168.162.213> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:04:29] <negen> the world needs to dump 32bits[15:04:31] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@37.161.150.2> has joined #manjaro[15:04:31] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@37.161.150.2> has quit IRC (Changing host)[15:04:31] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has joined #manjaro[15:04:36] <b0n> yea, arch is removing 32..i was talking about it with some people and it looks like manjaro would have to maintain their own 32bit release..which i dont know if theyre willing to do..[15:04:39] <negen> no need for it for quite some times[15:05:05] <Joseph> It would be a shame, b0n, the Xfce edition runs well on older hardware, which has more of a chance of being 32-bit[15:05:25] <Strit_Laptop> b0n: Manjaro will drop 32-bit when arch's 32-bit repository gets removed.[15:05:25] <Joseph> All of my systems are amd64 so it doesn't bother me personally but still, bummer[15:05:36] <Joseph> Strit_Laptop: That is a shame I guess, but oh well[15:05:42] <negen> you would have to go back to ancient days to find 32 only cpu's[15:05:59] <thid> negen: rpi ?[15:06:05] <b0n> rpi = arm[15:06:10] <Joseph> thid: What? RPI is an ARM chip[15:06:10] <tefter> last 32 bit cpu is 2004[15:06:13] <negen> isnt a pi arm?[15:06:18] <b0n> yes lol[15:06:20] <Strit_Laptop> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/arch-linux-is-dropping-32bit-packages/16312/10[15:06:21] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/XXmuZ5] Arch Linux is dropping 32bit packages - Manjaro[15:06:27] <b0n> arm7, 32bit[15:06:29] <thid> ah w8 I was thinking about something else on celeron[15:06:47] <b0n> another thing i was talking about with them was steam support[15:06:49] <Joseph> b0n: Yes, but there's a reason we're discussing i686 specifically[15:06:56] <b0n> since steamused to rely on some 32bit libraries[15:06:57] <negen> even my 7$ xeons support 64Bit[15:07:04] <Strit_Laptop> rpi1 was armv6, 2 was armv7, 3 was armv7/armv8.[15:07:23] <b0n> i too wish arch linux arm was officially supported..[15:07:28] <Strit_Laptop> b0n: Steam relies on multilib repo, not i686 repo[15:07:30] <negen> and they are very old[15:07:31] <tefter> i think they are just dropping i686 distro not 32 bit supprt generally[15:07:35] <thid> also theres alot of stuffs on atom/celeron with 2gb and 10000mha batter, going for 64bit on those is pain in ass with uefi and bigger use of ram[15:07:45] <Strit_Laptop> Multilib will NOT get removed.[15:07:57] <b0n> thats good[15:08:25] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.201.84.12> has joined #manjaro[15:08:36] <thid> I jsut hope 64bit iso will have also 32bit uefi option[15:09:10] <b0n> that reminds me.. i kinda wan to relock my bootloader..[15:09:15] <Strit_Laptop> thid: it won't.[15:09:22] <thid> that sucks...[15:09:39] <Strit_Laptop> It hasn't until know, so it won't have, before 32-bit install media is phased out.[15:10:34] <thid> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9B53VY9908[15:10:35] <thid> T_T[15:10:38] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/OXpuBB] Lenovo - IdeaPad 100s 11.6" Laptop / Intel Atom Z3735F/ 2GB Memory / 32GB eMMC Flash Memory / Webcam / Windows 10- Red[15:11:11] <Joseph> I'd get rid of Windows there[15:11:16] <Joseph> Slap a light Linux distro on it[15:11:17] <thid> ikr[15:11:22] <Joseph> Have a neat travel netbook thing[15:11:27] <thid> now image u no longer have 32bit version[15:11:37] <thid> 64bit uefi dont work on those[15:11:52] <Joseph> hm[15:12:03] <Jeannie> Were there ever 32vit uefi isos?[15:12:19] <thid> yeah o_O[15:12:19] *** Aska32 <Aska32!~Askannz@14.100.142.38> has joined #manjaro[15:12:31] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@181.114.125.50> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:12:34] <thid> duh not everything supports 64bit[15:12:44] <thid> even windows have 32 and 64 uefi[15:13:01] <Jeannie> I am not talking about windows[15:13:24] *** Aska990 <Aska990!~Askannz@42.60.244.219> has joined #manjaro[15:14:33] <b0n> aw what a cuite little notebook[15:14:36] <thid> well arch had normal 32bit efi support[15:14:46] *** Askannz <Askannz!~Askannz@14.100.134.202> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:14:49] *** crzyp3ck <crzyp3ck!~crzyp3ck@unaffiliated/crzyp3ck> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:14:56] <b0n> didnt even know uefi could be 32 or 64bit..[15:15:03] <Strit_Laptop> Manjaro also had 32-bit uefi booting, didn't it?[15:15:13] <negen> it is amd's fault for 32bit uefi from what i understand[15:15:13] <thid> Strit_Laptop: yes[15:15:25] <thid> negen: no[15:15:33] <thid> even intels have 32bit uefi[15:15:42] <thid> atom for example[15:15:51] *** chomwitt <chomwitt!~chomwitt@athedsl-31597.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[15:16:13] <thid> and those aren't some old cpu/chipsets[15:16:20] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:18f:1400:c4e5:49ec:a53d:f1a5> has joined #manjaro[15:17:28] <negen> yeah i wont pretend to understand that mess since i barely have to use it[15:17:35] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[15:17:35] *** Aska32 <Aska32!~Askannz@14.100.142.38> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[15:18:44] *** Dearu1 <Dearu1!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[15:18:45] <negen> but intel did blame the structure of uefi on what they call "non intel x86 processors" since something about them switching from 16/32/64 bits[15:19:24] <thid> I think that was more about via then amd[15:19:25] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[15:19:37] <negen> rather than intel chips "being able to run both 32/64 as well as 16bit instructions "[15:19:58] <thid> and now intel have cpu that cant do that xD[15:20:06] <negen> yeah could have been i forgot there are people still wanting to keep via alive[15:20:12] *** manjaro-web|9358 <manjaro-web|9358!bef046fa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.240.70.250> has joined #manjaro[15:20:16] <thid> VIA is dead[15:20:28] <thid> the lost on x86[15:20:41] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.201.84.12> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[15:20:44] <thid> they only chance was micro pc[15:20:52] <thid> ARM ate them alive[15:21:12] <Joseph> lol[15:21:19] <thid> they are barly used on some routers[15:21:43] <thid> VIA in IT is like AMD in servers[15:21:51] <manjaro-web|9358> Not good with Linux USB HEADSET not working need easy fix with tool not good with script etc etc and PULSE AUDIO and ALSA says headset UNPLUGGED[15:21:52] <negen> well they are not dead yet[15:21:59] *** plasma5 <plasma5!~manjaro-k@77.119.129.16.wireless.dyn.drei.com> has joined #manjaro[15:22:50] <manjaro-web|9358> Normal headset OK USB headset is problem when I plug in no DEVICE registration or recognition appears[15:22:50] <plasma5> hello[15:23:12] <thid> manjaro-web|9358: what headset? model ?[15:23:28] <negen> manjaro-web|9358, is that usb headset compatible with linux[15:23:28] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@176.120.254.125> has joined #manjaro[15:23:31] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[15:23:32] <thid> negen: yeah AMD is not dead on servers[15:23:48] <negen> my understanding is not all usb dacs are linux compatible[15:23:48] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@81-94-163-90.customer.itmastaren.net> has joined #manjaro[15:23:52] <manjaro-web|9358> LOGITECH noise v[15:23:54] <negen> but i mean via[15:24:02] <manjaro-web|9358> cancelling headset[15:24:04] <negen> via is still alive[15:24:05] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:24:15] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@dhcp-19-19.cs.uit.no> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[15:24:31] <manjaro-web|9358> Yes compatible[15:24:42] <thid> manjaro-web|9358: how did u check that?[15:24:46] *** steepleone <steepleone!~jim@2a01:cb19:18f:1400:c4e5:49ec:a53d:f1a5> has left #manjaro[15:26:29] <negen> what is the model number of your usb headset ?[15:27:09] <negen> I use a usb dac from schitt audio and it works by default[15:27:15] <thid> oh..since we'r on that topic. I'm thinking about buying razer hammer on aliexpress[15:27:23] <manjaro-web|9358> Stand by let me check with my son[15:27:52] <negen> what is a razer hammer ?[15:28:15] <thid> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9JN3FR9217[15:28:18] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EloGqj] Razer Hammerhead Pro In-Ear Gaming and Music Headset - Newegg.com[15:28:19] <negen> I use a german made safty razer to shave with[15:28:21] <manjaro-web|9358> My error we are having problem with XKIM model HF-868U-[15:28:33] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@81-94-163-90.customer.itmastaren.net> has left #manjaro[15:30:11] <negen> so your from spain or something manjaro-web|9358 ?[15:31:06] *** hbx <hbx!~hbx@199.193.153.19> has joined #manjaro[15:31:18] <Joseph> Colombia, actually[15:32:14] <negen> manjaro-web|9358, when the device is plugged into the pc what is listed when you type lsusb in the command line[15:32:36] <manjaro-web|9358> stand by[15:33:45] <manjaro-web|9358> https://thepasteb.in/p/qjhLKr4156vIB[15:33:47] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/BBSqQt] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs![15:35:12] *** mnemonic <mnemonic!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:35:52] <negen> C-Media Electronics, Inc. CM108 Audio Controller[15:36:14] <negen> it seems like that is the name of the device right ?[15:36:34] *** manjaro-web|9358 <manjaro-web|9358!bef046fa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.240.70.250> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:36:40] <negen> when you open pavucontrol you cannot select it in the configuration tab?[15:36:51] *** manjaro-web|3132 <manjaro-web|3132!bef046fa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.240.70.250> has joined #manjaro[15:37:04] <manjaro-web|3132> sorry disconnect[15:37:12] <Joseph> <negen> when you open pavucontrol you cannot select it in the configuration tab?[15:37:19] <Joseph> ^ that is what you missed, manjaro-web|3132[15:37:34] <manjaro-web|3132> no it says UNPLUGGED[15:38:00] <negen> what about the buttons on the device[15:38:02] <manjaro-web|3132> hold now it says plugged in[15:38:11] *** manjaro-web|3132 <manjaro-web|3132!bef046fa@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.240.70.250> has quit IRC (Client 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after update lol[16:11:56] <physkets> plasma5: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AMDGPU[16:11:57] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/qdbj9i] AMDGPU - ArchWiki[16:12:37] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.201.84.12> has joined #manjaro[16:12:55] <physkets> Botergos: Wow, we posted the exact same thing, at exactly the same time.[16:13:12] <Joseph> physkets: ...[16:13:25] <Joseph> physkets: Botergos is a bot, it processed your URL to return the title.[16:13:47] <Joseph> (And a shortened URL.)[16:14:27] <plasma5> in shot i just need to blacklist the radeon module and it will offer me amdgpu in mhwd?[16:14:31] <plasma5> *short[16:14:42] *** Jolt2bolt <Jolt2bolt!~Jolt2bolt@200.93.76.98> has joined #manjaro[16:14:43] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Jolt2bolt[16:15:17] *** Dearu1 <Dearu1!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Dearu1)[16:15:29] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@193.140.198.48> has joined #manjaro[16:15:55] *** Dearu 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<crzyp3ck> hello again[16:22:08] <crzyp3ck> I changed my video card to ATI radeon[16:22:53] <crzyp3ck> what changes should I make in my manjaro to satisfy that changes?[16:23:27] <Satyam2345> install new driver from harware detection setting..[16:23:31] <Satyam2345> may work[16:23:40] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[16:23:47] <Satyam2345> no.[16:23:49] <crzyp3ck> Satyam2345, I am in ssh[16:24:00] <Satyam2345> yes i realized that after saying[16:24:16] <crzyp3ck> so talk in terminal WAY[16:24:16] <Satyam2345> hmm...can you use yaourt[16:24:22] <crzyp3ck> yup[16:24:24] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132067149.public.t-mobile.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:24:32] <plasma5> do you want to use free or nonfree drivers?[16:24:37] <Satyam2345> find drivers then[16:24:53] <Satyam2345> use free-one[16:25:03] <crzyp3ck> right now the video-nvidia304xx is installed[16:25:05] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:25:18] <plasma5> remove it first[16:25:57] <Satyam2345> and find raedon package for your driver[16:25:58] <physkets> Joseph: Oh! hehe[16:26:12] <Jolt2bolt> hi guys[16:26:15] <plasma5> does it show the nvidia driver in "mhwd -li"[16:26:18] <Satyam2345> plasma5: are you running plasma on wayland[16:26:34] <plasma5> nope not yet[16:26:34] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:27:14] <plasma5> last time i tried it, it crashed[16:27:39] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-088-075-203-147.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[16:27:45] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@a89-183-118-140.net-htp.de> has joined #manjaro[16:28:46] <crzyp3ck> AGP ATI RADEON 9250 this is my graphic card. what driver should I use then Satyam2345 plasma5 ????[16:29:16] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has 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I am using nvidia graphic card (from somebody else) right now. but The card for the system right now RV280 is the chipset I think[16:41:09] <crzyp3ck> xserver-xorg-driver-ati ?????[16:41:43] *** jirido <jirido!~jirido@mobile-access-5d6aed-197.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[16:42:04] <jirido> Hi, I'm sitting in a meeting and try to get my laptops hdmi port to register a screen. The grafic card is a ati radeon. could someone maybe advice me how to manually get this going.. Xrandr dont show this port at all[16:42:45] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[16:43:02] <jirido> I have ati driver installed and have VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4225/4250][16:43:26] <jirido> and Inc. [AMD/ATI] Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5650/5750 / 6530M/6550M] (rev ff)[16:43:40] <crzyp3ck> jirido, are you with me sir?[16:43:42] <jirido> it seems right[16:43:55] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~elijah@67.148.122.154> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:44:02] *** plasma5 <plasma5!~manjaro-k@77.119.129.16.wireless.dyn.drei.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:44:07] <jirido> Well I dont know.. am I?[16:44:10] <crzyp3ck> jirido, oh. sorry[16:45:15] *** jirido <jirido!~jirido@mobile-access-5d6aed-197.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:45:29] *** jirido <jirido!~jirido@mobile-access-5d6aed-197.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[16:46:22] <Jolt2bolt> waryland seems a long long far away dream....[16:46:34] *** Guest53222 <Guest53222!~manjaro-k@2804:214:8296:d2db:2c97:ca17:39bd:dac8> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:46:52] <crzyp3ck> xf86-video-ati? if yes how to install it with mhwd?[16:49:09] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[16:50:04] * crzyp3ck says so I am connected[16:50:13] <crzyp3ck> !!![16:50:26] <Jolt2bolt> crzyp3ck, you can use the manjaro setting for that!:D[16:50:41] <crzyp3ck> Jolt2bolt, could you explain?[16:50:47] <Jolt2bolt> or use the CLI and the command mhwd![16:51:21] <Jolt2bolt> Command Line INterface or what we normally name "Open a terminal"[16:51:25] <Jolt2bolt> :P[16:51:31] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:51:49] <Jolt2bolt> mhwd -h can give you the hint about how to use the command mhwd[16:52:12] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-190-188.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:52:16] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!manjaro-kd@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-ntbokrimmfvsqukv> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:52:22] <Joseph> "terminal" is actually an old-fashioned term from when Unix systems had a dedicated hardware terminal screen to interact with the computer, but yeah, everybody calls it that, even though "terminal emulator" is more precise[16:52:32] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[16:52:48] <crzyp3ck> Jolt2bolt, better to use mhwd.[16:53:12] <Jolt2bolt> Joseph, I know that. BUt that information although could be informative is not useful for him right now!:P[16:53:22] <Joseph> Yeah, useless trivia I gues :-D[16:53:24] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[16:53:24] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[16:53:58] <Jolt2bolt> crzyp3ck, mhwd -l can tell you the drivers avaible for your hardware[16:54:14] <crzyp3ck> but what I meant was the use of this command to install the ati driver[16:54:19] <Jolt2bolt> crzyp3ck, mhwd -li show you the driver installed[16:54:26] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:55:02] <crzyp3ck> Jolt2bolt, right now I removed the nvidia. and I want to you ati (redeon 9250) driver.[16:55:07] <Jolt2bolt> normally is mhwd -i pci [name of the driver][16:55:15] <crzyp3ck> ATM the ati driver isn't installed[16:55:26] <crzyp3ck> physically into pci slot[16:55:29] <Jolt2bolt> don't forget the sudo command!:P[16:55:44] <crzyp3ck> Jolt2bolt, good one.[16:55:46] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@193.140.198.48> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:55:48] <Strit_Laptop> crzyp3ck: what is your hardware? Both nvidia and ati in one machine sounds like trouble.[16:55:52] <Jolt2bolt> sudo mhwd -i pci [nameofthedriver][16:56:02] <crzyp3ck> what would be [nameofthedriver][16:56:34] <Jolt2bolt> that's why I told you to use the mhwd -l command to know the name of the driver ati!¬.¬[16:56:45] <crzyp3ck> right now nvidia. but the nvidia card is for someone else. with mine the manjaro won't load to X[16:56:59] <Joseph> crzyp3ck: oh you were the one looking for CLI yesterday?[16:57:12] <crzyp3ck> So I am using the nvidia card to remove the nvidia driver and installl ati. then swap the card[16:57:23] <Jolt2bolt> mhwd -l will show the avaible drivers for the graphic's cards intalled in the system...[16:57:23] <crzyp3ck> Joseph, YUP[16:57:25] <crzyp3ck> :P[16:57:39] <Joseph> I remember now, but ... installing the ATI driver while the Nvidia card is still in?[16:57:43] <crzyp3ck> I solved it Joseph by the nvidia card.[16:57:47] <Joseph> Uh is that... healthy?[16:57:47] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:57:58] <Strit_Laptop> The ati (free) driver, is named video-ati.[16:58:03] <crzyp3ck> Joseph, I am way pass healthy Sir[16:58:11] <Jolt2bolt> i think your problem is not if the both card are installed or not, you problem is to set the ati card as main instead the nvidia one[16:58:23] <crzyp3ck> Strit_Laptop, and is that what I need for ati 9250?[16:58:43] <Strit_Laptop> It's a good bet. I don't know for sure. (not an AMD guy)[16:59:07] <Jolt2bolt> crzyp3ck, the free drivers works better for ati while nvidia works bettter with the privative ones[16:59:17] <Joseph> Jolt2bolt: proprietary[16:59:52] <crzyp3ck> :: xf86-video-ati and xorg-server are in conflict (xorg-server<1.19.0) Error: pacman failed! Error: script failed[16:59:55] <Jolt2bolt> Joseph, yeah I mean that... sorry my native language is spanish so...[17:00:04] <crzyp3ck> any suggestions?[17:00:08] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[17:00:11] <Joseph> Jolt2bolt: I see[17:00:19] <Jolt2bolt> crzyp3ck, did you updated the system first?[17:00:31] <Strit_Laptop> crzyp3ck: yeah, that's the trouble with ati. It does not work with xorg 1.18/1.19.[17:00:35] <Jolt2bolt> crzyp3ck, sudo pacman -Syu[17:00:37] *** roch_ <roch_!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: bbl)[17:00:41] <Jolt2bolt> really?[17:00:47] <Jolt2bolt> that sucks....[17:01:03] <Strit_Laptop> At least catalyst does not. video-ati should though.[17:01:04] <crzyp3ck> Strit_Laptop, pacman -Syyu? would that solve it?[17:01:14] <Jolt2bolt> let's go to burn the AMD factory. I got some torches here!:P[17:01:30] <Strit_Laptop> ati might not work correctly with xorg 1.19 though.[17:01:48] <crzyp3ck> Strit_Laptop, any solutions?[17:01:57] <Jolt2bolt> do you have some of some forlk like tool things?[17:02:11] *** Mikerhinos <Mikerhinos!~mikerhino@vic03-h02-176-145-45-161.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:02:14] <Strit_Laptop> Not an AMD guy, so I have not had the "pleasure" of dealing with these issues myself.[17:02:35] <Jolt2bolt> pleassure... yeah, right...[17:02:49] <Strit_Laptop> That's why I put it in quotes.[17:02:56] <Jolt2bolt> you have a weird definition of pleasure, Strit_Laptop!:P[17:03:16] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:04:29] <Joseph> Jolt2bolt: they used quotation marks to denote irony or sarcasm.[17:05:04] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[17:06:11] <crzyp3ck> I can't even install vesa driver same error. conflict...!!!![17:06:22] <crzyp3ck> Replace fuse with extra/fuse2? [Y/n] ?????[17:06:23] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-094-217-201-155.094.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[17:06:31] <Strit_Laptop> press yes[17:06:48] <crzyp3ck> xorg-server and xf86-input-acecad are in conflict (X-ABI-XINPUT_VERSION). Remove xf86-input-acecad? [y/N][17:06:58] <crzyp3ck> Strit_Laptop, yes to this to?[17:07:01] <Strit_Laptop> yep[17:08:28] <omarramo> hey guys, I just installed manjaro xfce and I get a lot of screen tearing and suboptimal grpahics performance. I have a i5-6200u with HD 520 integrated GPU. The driver should be there with the kernel, right?[17:08:43] <crzyp3ck> Strit_Laptop, does Syyu solves my ati problem?[17:08:57] <Strit_Laptop> crzyp3ck: don't know, but an up to date system is always a good thing. :)[17:09:08] <crzyp3ck> Strit_Laptop, good to now[17:09:34] * crzyp3ck is going offline for a bit. Be Right Back :P[17:09:40] <Joseph> crzyp3ck: See tyoy[17:09:42] <Joseph> you*[17:09:52] <crzyp3ck> thanks Joseph[17:10:05] *** crzyp3ck <crzyp3ck!~hshm@unaffiliated/crzyp3ck> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:10:05] <Strit_Laptop> omarramo: Intel video driver should be called video-intel. Check with mhwd -li[17:10:22] *** ZaPPeRoo <ZaPPeRoo!~ZaP@201-229-73-177.setardsl.aw> has joined #manjaro[17:10:38] <omarramo> it seems to bbe installed[17:10:54] *** rumflump <rumflump!~weechat@unaffiliated/olscumpy> has joined #manjaro[17:10:55] <omarramo> but from august 2016, can I update it?[17:11:15] <Strit_Laptop> What is "sub-optimal" performance? Intel graphics is generally not that good.[17:11:40] <Strit_Laptop> omarramo: august 2016 is just the date for when the config in mhwd was last updated. not the actual version date of the driver.[17:11:56] <Joseph> omarramo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/752743/ubuntu-16-04-skylake-6th-generation-screen-flickering << some people have reported changing the intel driver from SNA to UXA, on that same kind of Skylake chip with similar iGPU[17:11:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/dI7zLp] kernel - Ubuntu 16.04 Skylake 6th Generation Screen Flickering - Ask Ubuntu[17:12:14] <Strit_Laptop> Nice find.[17:12:20] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:12:33] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@185.118.249.57> has joined #manjaro[17:13:05] <omarramo> hm okay I will look into that. I didn't try any games, by suboptimal I mean that the scrolling in the browser is laggy[17:13:21] <omarramo> amongst other things[17:13:30] <Joseph> omarramo: Yes, exactly, as in tearing and flickering screen, people on that Ubuntu Stack Exchange reported similar problems[17:13:37] <Strit_Laptop> Update the system, and see if it's still present: :)[17:13:38] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.153> has joined #manjaro[17:13:38] <Joseph> With their browser[17:13:44] <Joseph> Yeah, a full update never hurts[17:13:54] <omarramo> so pacman -Syyu?[17:13:58] <Joseph> Also, just for the lulz, since that is a fairly new chip, maybe see if a new kernel solves it[17:14:09] <Joseph> Maybe newer kernels have better Skylake compatibility[17:14:16] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ltycdjhwamvzqlji> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[17:14:17] <omarramo> yup, will try[17:14:26] <Strit_Laptop> omarramo: yeah, :) And try kernel 4.9. It should have better skylake support[17:14:29] <Joseph> ^[17:16:13] <omarramo> like 4.9.2-1 or 4.9_rt1-1?[17:16:21] <Strit_Laptop> The first one. :)[17:16:38] <Strit_Laptop> the rt one is for real time (audio stuff)[17:17:10] <Joseph> omarramo: 4.9.2-1, it's the one I use :) Very nice one[17:17:27] <omarramo> ok :)[17:17:40] *** Aska990 <Aska990!~Askannz@42.60.244.219> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:18:06] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[17:18:10] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[17:19:32] *** malfane <malfane!~dabozz@c-98-245-1-140.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[17:20:28] *** dsadsadsadsadsad <dsadsadsadsadsad!~dsadsadsa@91.226.154.57> has joined #manjaro[17:20:29] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-094-217-201-155.094.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:20:33] <dsadsadsadsadsad> hi[17:20:55] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:22:30] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:22:51] <Strit_Laptop> dsadsadsadsadsad: hi[17:23:35] *** dsadsadsadsadsad <dsadsadsadsadsad!~dsadsadsa@91.226.154.57> has left #manjaro[17:25:43] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~king1337@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has joined #manjaro[17:28:36] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[17:30:03] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-094-217-201-155.094.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[17:32:14] <omarramo> ok so seems like the option "TearFree" solved the problem. still not 100% buttery smooth but definitely way better[17:33:28] <Joseph> \o/[17:33:36] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3F70F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:34:16] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:34:29] *** big-fat-boy <big-fat-boy!5cf6d81d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.92.246.216.29> has joined #manjaro[17:34:56] <omarramo> so thanks a lot guys! the only thing bothering me right now is the high dpi support. I got it to work properly for most things but the bar at the top of windows is still very small[17:35:24] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[17:35:27] <omarramo> this is on xfce, is there anything I can do to make that bigger? also the minimize buttons etc.[17:36:34] <Guest35661> xfce is a rather suboptimal de for hidpi displays[17:38:27] <omarramo> yes.. I was running kde before. it worked well but it wasnt lightweight enough for my laptop. what de would you suggest Guest35661?[17:38:52] *** bad_1 <bad_1!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[17:38:52] <Strit_Laptop> KDE or Gnome for high dpi I think.[17:38:56] <Guest35661> Indeed[17:39:05] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[17:39:27] <big-fat-boy> hi everybody. i want to install some widgets on my desk. can u recommend me some good package?[17:39:30] *** Guest35661 is now known as Jeannie[17:39:42] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@a89-182-188-222.net-htp.de> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:39:42] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[17:39:45] <Strit_Laptop> big-fat-boy: depends on what you want out of the widget. :)[17:39:55] * Strit_Laptop assumes big-fat-boyis running KDE[17:40:04] <Jeannie> That would also depend on the used DE[17:40:24] *** manjaro-web|8489 <manjaro-web|8489!d5950d6a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.213.149.13.106> has joined #manjaro[17:40:32] <big-fat-boy> something like weather and sys parameters[17:40:41] *** manjaro-web|8489 <manjaro-web|8489!d5950d6a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.213.149.13.106> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:40:43] <big-fat-boy> i mean cpu, temperature[17:41:19] <big-fat-boy> by the way i've xfce[17:41:23] <Strit_Laptop> Conky can probably do that. But there are KDE widgets for it.[17:41:35] <Strit_Laptop> Best bet is conky on xfce.[17:41:55] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[17:42:38] <Jeannie> Aren't there panel applets in xfce that display such informations?[17:43:29] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-094-217-201-155.094.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:43:30] <Strit_Laptop> Yeah, Never used them though.[17:43:36] *** bad_1 <bad_1!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:44:01] <big-fat-boy> Jeannine, there's no what i need[17:44:15] <big-fat-boy> god damn[17:44:19] <big-fat-boy> sorry[17:45:45] *** redeemed <redeemed!~rd@82.208.188.40> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:46:54] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[17:47:23] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[17:47:59] *** NNN <NNN!~test@178.137.246.131> has joined #manjaro[17:48:35] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:48:35] <Jeannie> Besides many others, there are spplets for cpu sensors and weather available for xfce. Didn't you want that?[17:48:46] <Joseph> Conky is legit[17:49:04] <Joseph> I have it on my Xfce Manjaro. took a bit of fiddling to have it autostart, but I got it done[17:49:17] <Jeannie> Conky is hidden behind applications[17:49:24] <Jeannie> And a true pita to configure[17:49:39] <Joseph> Heh, yes[17:49:48] <big-fat-boy> It's good, that it's hide[17:50:12] <Jeannie> Yes, especially when you need to monitor your cpu temperature....[17:50:15] <Joseph> I was in luck, because apparently an autostart shell script was made, so I just linked the that script in the "exec=" parameter in the autostart conky file[17:50:19] <Strit_Laptop> Conky needs some getting used to, but it can be an alround tool for monitoring your system.[17:50:52] <big-fat-boy> 'cause it must be on the desk, it shouldn't prevent[17:51:13] <Jeannie> It's useless when you mostly run maximized applications on a singel monitor system[17:51:34] <big-fat-boy> maybe[17:51:36] <Joseph> Unless you have transparency on for all maximized applications[17:51:41] <Joseph> Some people use it that way[17:52:01] <Jeannie> Transparency? For better readability?[17:52:56] <Joseph> Well, so you can see through and see the conky widgets, yeah[17:53:14] <Joseph> Not just readibility, some widgets have graphs[17:53:16] <big-fat-boy> god, help me with setting up conky. amen[17:53:32] <big-fat-boy> bye[17:53:35] <Joseph> \o[17:53:41] *** big-fat-boy <big-fat-boy!5cf6d81d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.92.246.216.29> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:53:50] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@88.237.173.184> has joined #manjaro[17:54:16] *** ashledombos_ <ashledombos_!~manjaro-k@37.168.147.37> has joined #manjaro[17:54:19] <Jeannie> I fear god won't help you with conky[17:54:44] *** jirido <jirido!~jirido@mobile-access-5d6aed-197.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:58:02] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:58:56] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@88.237.173.184> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:02:00] *** rethus <rethus!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-ec9c-0-91b7-265b-5963-9f6e.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:07:29] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@186-90-208-94.genericrev.cantv.net> has joined #manjaro[18:09:06] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf00ba@85.ip-79-137-82.eu> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:09:06] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf00ba@fsf/member/deerf> has joined #manjaro[18:09:52] *** ZaPPeRoo <ZaPPeRoo!~ZaP@201-229-73-177.setardsl.aw> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:12:50] *** ZaPPeRoo <ZaPPeRoo!~ZaP@201-229-73-177.setardsl.aw> has joined #manjaro[18:13:01] *** rudha <rudha!~rudha@36.252.21.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:14:12] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@186-90-208-94.genericrev.cantv.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:23:46] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[18:25:20] *** jirido <jirido!~jirido@mobile-access-5d6aaa-55.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[18:26:10] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3F70F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:26:16] *** crzyp3ck <crzyp3ck!~crzyp3ck@unaffiliated/crzyp3ck> has joined #manjaro[18:26:24] <crzyp3ck> hello back[18:26:33] * crzyp3ck says hi to Joseph[18:26:38] <Joseph> Hey[18:26:55] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@206.248.94.85> has joined #manjaro[18:27:06] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:27:17] <crzyp3ck> Joseph, I put the system for update. about 713MB to be exact. hope it solves the ati problem.[18:27:27] <Joseph> Let's see!![18:27:29] <Joseph> Fingers crossed[18:27:46] <crzyp3ck> Yes. /crossed/[18:29:32] <crzyp3ck> Joseph, could I install manjaro to an xfs partition?[18:33:36] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAA9F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:34:10] <Strit_Laptop> crzyp3ck: can't see why not. The installer supports it.[18:35:28] *** genpaku <genpaku!~genpaku@107.191.100.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:35:38] *** yokel <yokel!~yokel@unaffiliated/contempt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[18:35:52] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has joined #manjaro[18:36:03] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:36:30] *** genpaku <genpaku!~genpaku@107.191.100.185> has joined #manjaro[18:36:53] *** SkyeNymph <SkyeNymph!~skyenymph@104.218.244.194> has joined #manjaro[18:36:58] *** yokel <yokel!~yokel@unaffiliated/contempt> has joined #manjaro[18:37:28] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[18:38:14] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has joined #manjaro[18:38:23] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@103.211.152.254> has joined #manjaro[18:38:23] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[18:38:38] *** Guest53222 <Guest53222!~manjaro-k@191.240.177.138> has joined #manjaro[18:41:07] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@a89-183-73-131.net-htp.de> has joined #manjaro[18:41:44] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAA9F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:42:15] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@186.223.195.141> has joined #manjaro[18:42:32] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-094-217-201-155.094.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:44:42] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@a89-183-118-140.net-htp.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:45:29] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAA9F2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:46:49] <crzyp3ck> what was the hardware detect command? 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I'm the only one with this bug? using steam-manjaro[19:43:59] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:44:04] <Joseph> Koko: https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux-community/files/release/16.10.2/mate/[19:44:08] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/HvIgjZ] manjarolinux-community - Browse /release/16.10.2/mate at SourceForge.net[19:44:50] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[19:44:54] <Koko> Botergos, I do not want the stable version, I just want to test the development version.[19:45:09] <Jeannie> There is none with MATE[19:45:20] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[19:45:47] <Joseph> Koko: But I already gave you the unstable repository method before, you said you then wanted ISO, I give it to you, you then said you want unstable[19:45:55] <Joseph> I don't understand what you want.[19:46:54] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf00ba@fsf/member/deerf> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[19:47:37] <Koko> I want the ISO for install Manjaro Mate on my pc to test it.[19:47:49] <Joseph> I already. Gave you. That. https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux-community/files/release/16.10.2/mate/[19:47:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/HvIgjZ] manjarolinux-community - Browse /release/16.10.2/mate at SourceForge.net[19:47:50] <Koko> I am not upgrading[19:48:00] <Joseph> Use it as a live USB[19:48:24] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-89-241-166-231.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[19:48:39] <Koko> ok, I could use a USB, but where is the ISO so I can download it[19:48:40] <Koko> ?[19:48:44] <Joseph> ffs[19:48:58] <Joseph> Look at the links there[19:49:17] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[19:49:18] <Joseph> The ones that end in .iso and have a compatible architecture[19:50:15] <Jeannie> https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux-community/files/development/17.0-alpha1/mate/[19:50:18] *** novid is now known as nuved[19:50:35] <Koko> ffs, the links are for stable versions. I do not want that!!![19:50:48] <Joseph> Koko: You need to be explicit then. 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Codeshare[20:29:15] <crzyp3ck> TOUCHPAD issue[20:31:16] <Jeannie> Have you tried switching to libinput?[20:32:02] *** Jay-Lenovo <Jay-Lenovo!~jacob@c-ea0de555.015-6-73746f36.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[20:32:09] *** sherif <sherif!9cc93743@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.156.201.55.67> has joined #manjaro[20:32:31] *** nuved <nuved!~manjaro-k@46.209.120.235> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:33:01] *** novid <novid!~manjaro-k@46.209.120.235> has joined #manjaro[20:34:50] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[20:34:58] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:37:54] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@103.211.152.254> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[20:39:12] *** CupOfCoffee-PC is now known as CupOfCoffee[20:40:29] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[20:41:44] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[20:48:06] *** two_jays <two_jays!57ab3d7d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.171.61.125> has joined #manjaro[20:48:53] *** two_jays <two_jays!57ab3d7d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.171.61.125> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:48:53] *** two_jays <two_jays!57ab3d7d@unaffiliated/two-jays/x-5777866> has joined #manjaro[20:48:53] *** two_jays <two_jays!57ab3d7d@unaffiliated/two-jays/x-5777866> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:48:53] *** two_jays <two_jays!57ab3d7d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.171.61.125> has joined #manjaro[20:49:58] *** ryan_ <ryan_!~ryan@vic03-h02-176-145-45-161.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[20:50:04] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:51:16] *** rion <rion!b4f60234@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.180.246.2.52> has joined #manjaro[20:51:40] <sherif> hi, i am a new user of manjaro dist. i want to update the system but i afraid that this may lead to stop the system as happened to me few days ago . what should i do? >sorry for my bad english[20:52:05] *** rorro <rorro!~rorro@h-170-152-58.a163.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[20:53:27] *** two_jays <two_jays!57ab3d7d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.171.61.125> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:53:43] <rion> '-'[20:54:15] *** gawd <gawd!~gawd@2600:8800:5180:2340:d02c:eda3:5128:2fd7> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:54:30] *** Jolt2bolt <Jolt2bolt!~Jolt2bolt@200.93.76.98> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[20:54:32] *** manjaro-web|7565 <manjaro-web|7565!5c96fe24@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.92.150.254.36> has joined #manjaro[20:54:44] *** manjaro-web|7565 <manjaro-web|7565!5c96fe24@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.92.150.254.36> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:55:32] *** rion <rion!b4f60234@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.180.246.2.52> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:56:17] <sherif> hi, i am a new user of manjaro dist. i want to update the system but i afraid that this may lead to stop the system as happened to me few days ago . what should i do? >sorry for my bad english[20:59:13] *** sherif <sherif!9cc93743@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.156.201.55.67> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:59:25] <Strit_Laptop> sherif: What do you mean stop the system? Updates are generally safe to do on Manjaro.[20:59:37] <Strit_Laptop> damn[20:59:48] <Strit_Laptop> he just logge doff[21:00:10] *** superbia <superbia!c1c608d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.198.8.211> has joined #manjaro[21:00:19] <superbia> Jeannieeeee hi[21:00:23] <rhg135> Manjaro is great that way[21:00:58] <superbia> BugzBunny: hi[21:02:37] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@178.162.217.135> has joined #manjaro[21:04:10] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:04:18] <superbia> Jeannie: you don't want me, i won't offer it twice[21:04:23] *** superbia <superbia!c1c608d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.198.8.211> has left #manjaro[21:07:39] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:10:29] <crzyp3ck> Jeannie, how should i do that? remove what? install what?[21:10:47] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@agtl7.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:11:24] <crzyp3ck> and do we have any fancy way of repairing grub after windows install? or just the mk-grub-config (?!)[21:12:18] <mike-zal> crzyp3ck: option 1: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Restore_the_GRUB_Bootloader[21:12:19] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/6lIg49] Restore the GRUB Bootloader - Manjaro Linux[21:12:22] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[21:12:47] <amatrelan> grup-update?[21:12:55] <amatrelan> grub-update?[21:13:07] <mike-zal> crzyp3ck: do UEFI install and you don't have worry about windows or any other system overwriting boot files[21:13:47] <mike-zal> amatrelan: he can't do that if system doesn't boot[21:14:01] <amatrelan> ah sorry just joined so little out what was the problem[21:14:22] <crzyp3ck> mike-zal, my motherboard isn't uefi[21:14:35] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-50ddf8-101.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[21:14:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Lukimya[21:14:44] <amatrelan> well then you have to to basic grub repairt as pointed out on link[21:15:00] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[21:15:13] <amatrelan> just use that manjaro-chroot, easy and fast way[21:17:21] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyy2y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[21:21:19] *** Dippy <Dippy!~manjaro-k@151.237.25.139> has joined #manjaro[21:22:09] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has joined #manjaro[21:22:13] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:22:18] <mike-zal> crzyp3ck: then you need to restore grub as showed on site I just gave you[21:24:48] *** Zhanet <Zhanet!b3b49586@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.179.180.149.134> has joined #manjaro[21:25:18] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@a83-132-55-18.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #manjaro[21:25:38] <Zhanet> Hello there, is this a channel for asking questions?[21:26:30] <rhg135> Here[21:26:40] <Strit_Laptop> Zhanet: it is[21:26:48] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:27:30] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1E45921F62771CA059E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:28:09] <Joseph> Zhanet: Go ahead![21:28:17] <Zhanet> Great, I'm having problems recognizing a webcam, found several tutorials but files associated with said tutorials are usually no longer available, it's and older model and I fear I wont find the driver for it[21:29:01] <Strit_Laptop> Zhanet: what webcam software have you tried? Cheese, OBS?[21:29:23] <Zhanet> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:624e Microdia PC Camera (SN9C201 + SOI968)[21:29:24] <Zhanet> Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:624e Microdia PC Camera (SN9C201 + SOI968)[21:29:24] <Zhanet> So far cheese and chrome as well[21:29:35] <Zhanet> Sorry for the double paste[21:30:47] <Strit_Laptop> Try OBS and add it as a video4linux source.[21:31:56] <Zhanet> Is it obs-studio?[21:32:00] <Strit_Laptop> yes[21:33:24] <Zhanet> Installing[21:33:40] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:33:41] *** ZaPPeRoo <ZaPPeRoo!~ZaP@66-247-206-49.setardsl.aw> has joined #manjaro[21:34:15] <Strit_Laptop> Should be a good chance it will work. :)[21:35:05] *** psesq <psesq!~psesq___@unaffiliated/psesq> has joined #manjaro[21:35:28] <Zhanet> Nop, it didn't find the camera :([21:35:36] <Strit_Laptop> Hm.[21:35:41] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:36:30] <Zhanet> Like I said it's an older model, I'm not an experienced user but maybe I need a driver for it or something[21:37:13] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-50ddf8-101.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:37:21] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3F70F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[21:38:28] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[21:38:49] <crzyp3ck> mike-zal, thanks mate.[21:38:57] <Strit_Laptop> Zhanet: seems to be a solution in here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=75259[21:38:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/NBknNc] [SOLVED] Webcam not detected. / Kernel & Hardware / Arch Linux Forums[21:39:07] <Strit_Laptop> In post #2[21:40:19] *** psesq <psesq!~psesq___@unaffiliated/psesq> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:41:15] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:41:41] <Zhanet> Will try it[21:42:10] <Strit_Laptop> Don't know if t still works.[21:42:12] <crzyp3ck> Now my touchpad doesn't work.[21:42:21] <crzyp3ck> libinput?[21:43:07] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has joined #manjaro[21:43:09] <Zhanet> Got an error 6th command 'make'[21:43:35] <Zhanet> Pasted it on private chat[21:43:50] <Zhanet> Didn't want to cause spam[21:43:55] <Strit_Laptop> np[21:46:05] <mike-zal> crzyp3ck: yes, libinput is the default on most distros and manjaro editions (deepin is probably an excepton, because it still requires symantec)[21:46:18] *** Mikerhinos <Mikerhinos!~mikerhino@vic03-h02-176-145-45-161.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:46:35] <mike-zal> crzyp3ck: but you can install symantec drivers anyway and they will be used automatically, even if libinput is on board[21:47:15] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf00ba@85.ip-79-137-82.eu> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[21:47:17] <crzyp3ck> mike-zal, how should I check which one do I have[21:47:33] <crzyp3ck> it is a fresh 16.10-3 xfce[21:47:44] <mike-zal> then you have libinput[21:48:42] <mike-zal> crzyp3ck: install: libsynaptics, xf86-input synaptics[21:48:43] *** negen <negen!~negen@46.166.190.167> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:48:50] <mike-zal> and reboot[21:49:03] *** negen <negen!~negen@46.166.190.167> has joined #manjaro[21:49:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v negen[21:49:58] <mike-zal> I hope it's enough. haven't been using synaptics since long time and forgot what were the packages.[21:50:14] <crzyp3ck> mike-zal, libinput and synaptic configuration stanzas in xorg config file are the same?[21:50:22] *** bad_1 <bad_1!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[21:50:32] <crzyp3ck> mike-zal, and so forget about libinput?[21:50:35] <mike-zal> crzyp3ck: nope, they are different[21:50:54] *** Zhanet <Zhanet!b3b49586@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.179.180.149.134> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[21:51:06] *** bad_1 is now known as badbodh[21:51:07] <mike-zal> crzyp3ck: libinput is generallty better but for such old computer as yours, maybe it's better to use synaptic[21:51:12] *** ryan_ <ryan_!~ryan@vic03-h02-176-145-45-161.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:51:39] <mike-zal> assuming that libinput is not working for you. sometimes you need to add tap ability to it manually.[21:52:32] <crzyp3ck> mike-zal, no sir; It wasn't installed. I just did it. (libinput that is). how to add the tap manually?[21:55:56] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf00ba@85.ip-79-137-82.eu> has joined #manjaro[21:56:45] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:57:28] *** diegomanjaro <diegomanjaro!bea02040@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.160.32.64> has joined #manjaro[21:57:43] <mike-zal> crzyp3ck: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s505/sh/d58d3bb6-dbfc-48eb-ad42-b9d1691e5dfa/a12281508c7c5b04a2a78011a50e1d84[21:57:46] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Ji65B9] libinput drivers for mouse/pad[21:58:12] <mike-zal> but that means, you shouldn't have symantec drivers if you want to use libinput[21:59:07] <mike-zal> so if you have them, uninstall them[22:03:17] *** diegomanjaro <diegomanjaro!bea02040@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.160.32.64> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:04:52] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: 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