January 29, 2017 
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January 29, 2017 [00:03:31] <BugzBunny> I have LXQT[00:03:36] *** defenestrator <defenestrator!6a331341@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.106.51.19.65> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:03:40] <rhg135> here's mine https://up1.secretalgorithm.com/#xcSECGs53OY44SOr4HmVRg idk why the terminal doesn't cover all the way down[00:03:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/1yPSoD] Up1[00:03:45] <rhg135> meh[00:04:05] <Joseph> " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdiAY5ST-pM "[00:04:06] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/wpG3zG] [1 Hour] [720p] NVIDIA PureVideo HD 720p Test - YouTube[00:04:10] <Joseph> Woops wrong link[00:04:14] <Joseph> " https://up1.secretalgorithm.com "[00:04:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/XPuS1z] Up1[00:04:19] <Joseph> Never heard of this site before[00:04:25] <Joseph> Is it like a 0-knowledge pastebin for images?[00:04:26] <Joseph> o.0[00:04:33] <BugzBunny> Yeah[00:04:38] <BugzBunny> I don't trust it[00:05:06] <Joseph> rhg135: nice set up[00:05:29] <BugzBunny> What? that is nice setup?[00:05:42] <Joseph> Let's see yours :)[00:06:01] <BugzBunny> I want to see yours first?[00:06:10] <Joseph> ...? I already pasted mine?[00:06:32] <BugzBunny> [18:04:05] <Joseph> " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdiAY5ST-pM "?[00:06:32] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/wpG3zG] [1 Hour] [720p] NVIDIA PureVideo HD 720p Test - YouTube[00:06:44] <BugzBunny> This ^[00:06:54] <Joseph> ... what. Dude, scroll up. *BEFORE* that[00:06:58] <Joseph> <Joseph> http://i.imgur.com/ADfFlZp.jpg <<< my desktop on the netbook[00:06:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/GKlKVU] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[00:07:16] <Joseph> it's just a vanilla Xfce desktop on Manjaro[00:07:28] *** negen <negen!~negen@46.166.190.167> has joined #manjaro[00:07:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v negen[00:07:35] <BugzBunny> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise (x64) • CPU: AMD FX-8320E Eight-Core Processor (3.20GHz) • Memory: 7.9 GiB Total (1.3 GiB Free) • Storage: 867.5 GiB / 931.6 GiB (64.1 GiB Free) • VGA: Radeon (TM) RX 480 Graphics • Uptime: 2d 10h 51m 23s[00:07:36] *** emptynine <emptynine!~tkk@cybertron.nullroute.info> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[00:07:37] <Joseph> I use one of the darker themes[00:07:56] <BugzBunny> Joseph, It look nice[00:08:01] <Joseph> Yay[00:08:05] *** emptynine <emptynine!~tkk@cybertron.nullroute.info> has joined #manjaro[00:08:05] *** Hexxium <Hexxium!49d5cbe0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.213.203.224> has joined #manjaro[00:08:25] <BugzBunny> Joseph, What file manager etc do you use?[00:08:29] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:09:19] <Joseph> It's vanilla Xfce like I said, so Thunar[00:09:38] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out)[00:10:15] <BugzBunny> I mean, the theme incorporates in you file manager?[00:10:16] *** bobfosssil_ <bobfosssil_!~omega@62.205.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:10:27] <Joseph> yeah, it goes nice and dark, just like everything else.[00:10:35] <Joseph> Thunar is the "built in" file manager, so it makes sense.[00:10:39] <Hexxium> Yup[00:10:59] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[00:11:04] <BugzBunny> Like I didn't know no that Thunar was 'built in'[00:11:15] <Joseph> Then why did you ask that[00:11:23] *** rmonico <rmonico!~rmonico@200.49.48.139> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[00:11:31] <BugzBunny> [18:10:15] <BugzBunny> I mean, the theme incorporates in you file manager?[00:11:43] <BugzBunny> >>[00:11:49] <Joseph> What do you think the normal modus operandi is for a built in file manager?[00:11:50] <Joseph> lol[00:12:34] <roch> o/[00:12:43] <BugzBunny> For one, GTK theme in QT theme environment doesn't behave a bit weird[00:12:49] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@cpe-45-37-15-127.nc.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[00:12:55] <Joseph> o.l[00:12:57] <Joseph> o.o[00:13:22] <BugzBunny> That's why I had asked, the theme [18:10:15] <BugzBunny> I mean, the theme incorporates in you file manager?[00:13:33] <rhg135> not in plasma :D[00:13:42] <rhg135> I <3 qt[00:14:17] <rhg135> I've programmed against both gtk and qt; qt hands down[00:14:59] <BugzBunny> I love LXQT[00:15:11] <BugzBunny> Monitor support needs work[00:15:16] <BugzBunny> But I love LXQT[00:15:20] <BugzBunny> I love it[00:15:44] <BugzBunny> You make me want to jam to music[00:16:03] <rhg135> lxqt is good too[00:16:13] <rhg135> might run it on my laptop[00:16:17] <hpp> why it uses openbox?[00:16:26] <rhg135> has no ssd so plasma boots slow[00:16:33] *** lizzy_ <lizzy_!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:16:38] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-178-007-001-061.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[00:16:53] <rhg135> because some people don't like kwin, hpp[00:17:01] <roch> I got good song ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE9sufx7POo[00:17:01] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:17:02] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/C5C2cL] Big Business - Lonely Lyle - YouTube[00:17:31] *** hbx <hbx!~hbx@199.193.153.19> has joined #manjaro[00:17:58] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has joined #manjaro[00:18:29] <roch> I set up semi usable working desktop with puppy linux and JWM winow manager only to come back and see it's charger died , bummer[00:18:44] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:18:47] <Rayzake> Hello again, I have a problem with my live manjaro (same issue as other Linux I tried).[00:19:16] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@a83-132-55-18.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:19:47] <BugzBunny> Joseph, ^[00:20:08] <rhg135> my home is on an hdd, but the system is on an ssd[00:20:17] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has joined #manjaro[00:20:25] <rhg135> desktops ftw[00:20:30] *** Joseph <Joseph!~Penskins@gateway/tor-sasl/penskins> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:20:46] <BugzBunny> I hear music[00:20:47] <rhg135> far more comfortable and faster and bigger screen[00:20:52] <BugzBunny> From neibor[00:20:56] *** Joseph <Joseph!~Penskins@gateway/tor-sasl/penskins> has joined #manjaro[00:21:09] <rhg135> sorry BugzBunny :\[00:21:09] <Joseph> Sorry, HexChat crashed[00:21:20] <rhg135> i'll turn it down lol[00:21:23] <Joseph> Someone pinged me right before?[00:22:08] <BugzBunny> I dod[00:22:21] <Joseph> Rayzake, what's going on[00:22:42] <Rayzake> Here is problem, after booting, it did connect wired network however when I open firefox, it was loading long time nothing happen, I look at my network setting. some reason it not get IPv4 address, it show unknown[00:23:54] <Joseph> Rayzake: in that system, in a terminal, type "ping www.google.com"[00:23:59] <Joseph> see what it does[00:24:46] <Rayzake> I belive I did tried on other linux (linux mint), it said unknown host I believe.. sorry my memory not always good.[00:24:59] <roch> ping 8.8.8.8[00:25:30] *** Stuzz <Stuzz!~Stuzz@CPE-60-231-67-122.lns2.cha.bigpond.net.au> has joined #manjaro[00:25:43] <Rayzake> Ok I will try. since I only own one computer. I will be back. Thanks.[00:26:11] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[00:26:59] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:27:35] *** ringos <ringos!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[00:27:36] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:27:42] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@net-2-32-28-70.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #manjaro[00:29:29] *** bobfosssil_ <bobfosssil_!~omega@167.211.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz> has joined #manjaro[00:29:36] *** bewgie <bewgie!~AndChat61@cpe-66-65-72-54.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[00:29:44] <bewgie> hi there[00:29:52] <Joseph> bewgie: any luck with new kernel?[00:30:09] <roch> oh,,., I now a strugle with one computer,,,, and one instalation medium, and ocean of commitment ;)[00:30:14] <bewgie> well i installed budgie onto the hd[00:30:24] <bewgie> it boots to a white screen[00:30:41] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:30:43] <bewgie> thats all she wrote[00:30:46] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[00:30:51] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[00:30:56] <bewgie> i see the cursor[00:31:29] <bewgie> live cd boots fine but only when idont use non free drivers[00:32:04] <bewgie> weird huh[00:32:13] <Joseph> Your system is Richard Stallman's dream[00:32:14] <Joseph> ;-)[00:32:27] <bewgie> lol[00:32:34] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@net-2-32-28-70.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:34:23] *** Lemuriano <Lemuriano!~chatzilla@c-73-224-246-54.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:34:27] <bewgie> not sure how toproceed[00:34:54] *** bobfosssil_ <bobfosssil_!~omega@167.211.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:35:17] <bewgie> if i install something in live cd mode, does it install that way when i do a hard drive install?[00:35:19] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has joined #manjaro[00:35:19] *** bobfosssil_ <bobfosssil_!~omega@167.211.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz> has joined #manjaro[00:35:58] *** Lemuriano <Lemuriano!~chatzilla@c-73-224-246-54.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:36:03] <dalput> Trying to install ncurses with pacaur, get an error saying "unknown public key". Tried gpg -r/-f/--lsign-key/--recv-key/--edit-key trust... still can't install.[00:36:07] <Rayzake> Hello again and sorry, Well I pinged and it said "network is unreachable"[00:36:08] <dalput> Any suggestions ?[00:36:41] <dalput> Also tried editing pacman.conf and editing Sig Level to "never"[00:37:15] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@ALyon-656-1-758-171.w109-212.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[00:37:39] <BugzBunny> afaik[00:37:44] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:37:50] <BugzBunny> pacur and yourt[00:37:52] <Joseph> Rayzake: you pinged Google's DNS (8.8.8.8) and it said network is unreachable? huh weird.[00:37:58] <BugzBunny> both ffrom AUR[00:38:02] <Rayzake> Indeed.[00:38:12] <bewgie> i rebooted, still just getting a white screen with cursor[00:38:20] <BugzBunny> Which means, you need you need to git clone and mkpkg[00:38:25] <BugzBunny> dalput[00:38:45] <bewgie> when it hibernate it goes to a visible login box[00:38:55] <BugzBunny> reboots to Linux[00:39:09] <bewgie> but then back to white screen[00:39:10] <Joseph> Rayzake: it's a bit complicated to troubleshoot if you have to keep rebooting and trying, but the next step is to do "ifconfig" from the terminal and see if the relevant interface is UP and has assigned you some IPs[00:39:22] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@cpe-45-37-15-127.nc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:39:25] <dalput> BugzBunny: so I can solve it manually probably ? is it because pacaur checks pgp key ?[00:39:31] <Rayzake> it did said UP and IP there.[00:39:42] <Joseph> huh[00:40:33] *** mtn_ <mtn_!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has joined #manjaro[00:41:21] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@ALyon-656-1-758-171.w109-212.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:41:29] *** Cromulent|2 <Cromulent|2!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[00:41:40] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services)[00:41:42] <Rayzake> I guess I have to give up on linux for while, but I'm happy to see helpful like here.[00:41:52] <BugzBunny> back[00:41:55] <BugzBunny> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: AMD FX-8320E Eight-Core Processor (1.40GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (7.1 GiB Free) Swap: 6.9 GiB Total (6.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 9.8 GB / 43.7 GB (33.9 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD9x0/RX980 Host Bridge • Uptime: 1m 38s[00:41:56] <Joseph> Rayzake: but I mean a relevant interface mind you, not your loopback interface (lo) that should always be up and give you the standard localhost IP[00:42:05] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #manjaro[00:42:13] <Joseph> something like eth0[00:42:13] <BugzBunny> dalput, I don't use pacur, I don't know what it does[00:42:16] <Joseph> if you're using wired[00:43:01] <Rayzake> yeah it said that on enol (on liunx mint) while eth0 in manjaro, both say up and has IP.[00:43:09] <Joseph> o.0[00:43:24] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@156.201.55.67> has joined #manjaro[00:43:24] <Rayzake> I know weird. :([00:43:56] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:43:57] <dalput> BugzBunny: ok just a quick last question, can you point me towards the installation process ? I cloned the git repo, there is no readme and I can't find anything in the wiki about this. how do I start installing ?[00:43:57] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[00:44:02] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:44:02] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:44:03] <bewgie> im stuck oh man[00:44:03] <bewgie> everything i try, white screen[00:44:32] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@156.201.55.67> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:44:53] <BugzBunny> dalput, When you git clone, you should just a file called PKGBUILD[00:45:00] <BugzBunny> dalput, then makepkg[00:45:08] <BugzBunny> In that directory[00:45:25] <dalput> thanks![00:46:08] <BugzBunny> Sure[00:46:33] <dalput> even then, same error "can't verify PGP keys"[00:46:54] <BugzBunny> What are you trying to pull from AUR?[00:46:59] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[00:47:01] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:47:05] <dalput> I'm trying to install ncurses5-compat-libs[00:47:07] <bewgie> help?[00:47:18] <BugzBunny> dalput, Uh, why from AUR?[00:47:36] <dalput> BugzBunny: where else[00:47:43] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:47:50] <BugzBunny> dalput, You have probgram that depends on it?[00:48:00] <dalput> BugzBunny: yes, can't install chromium-dev[00:48:05] <BugzBunny> oO[00:48:10] <BugzBunny> From AUR?[00:48:13] <dalput> yes[00:48:39] <BugzBunny> dalput, Why Chromium Dev?[00:48:51] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@130.43.3.248.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:49:00] <dalput> BugzBunny: there is no other one in the repos[00:49:39] <rhg135> he could be a web dev[00:49:42] * rhg135 shrugs[00:49:49] <dalput> hehe, usually I use beta[00:49:56] <dalput> but nor the beta or stable are in the repos[00:50:15] <rhg135> there is chromium in the repos[00:50:21] <BugzBunny> [root@DESKTOP-8RF1D0U ~]# pacman -Ss chromium[00:50:21] <BugzBunny> extra/chromium 56.0.2924.76-1[00:50:48] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[00:51:19] <dalput> wtf[00:51:38] <bewgie> bugzbunny can you help me[00:51:43] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:51:47] <ringos> http://ix.io/1Rlt[00:51:48] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/TJYdZC] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)[00:51:50] <ringos> :)[00:51:54] <BugzBunny> bewgie, If I want to ?[00:51:54] <dalput> I don't even know how I missed it, I did like 10 searches[00:51:57] <dalput> thanks[00:52:14] <bewgie> i keep getting white screen when i boot[00:52:15] <Rayzake> Anyway, Thanks for help.[00:52:54] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:53:40] <bewgie> please help[00:54:15] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[00:54:22] <BugzBunny> It's not I don't want to help[00:54:35] <BugzBunny> You need to give information about you problem[00:54:48] <BugzBunny> I am lazy, I don't read back[00:55:14] <bewgie> well thats all it does[00:55:24] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@dhcp-5-186-121-147.cgn.ip.fibianet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[00:55:45] <bewgie> just boots to a white screen with amouse cursor on it[00:55:51] <hpp> white screen with free and non-free driver?[00:56:23] <bewgie> well, in live cd only free gives me no issue[00:56:32] <bewgie> non free white screen[00:56:34] <Hexxium> Have you tried refresing the desktop through the shell>[00:56:38] <hpp> i have asus laptop and i have to use non-free driver to get it work, i also have white screen with mouse pointer[00:57:12] <bewgie> how do i get back to shell[00:58:05] <bewgie> well on the hard drive install its white screen, i wasnt given achoice on free or non free when iinstalled it[00:58:16] <Hexxium> ctrl +alt + f1 or any f key up to f6[00:58:49] <bewgie> ctrl alt f2 gave me a completely black screen[00:58:53] <bewgie> no cursor[00:59:02] <bewgie> ill try the others[00:59:02] <Hexxium> Thats a shell[00:59:17] <Hexxium> You should see a login screen[00:59:26] <bewgie> i dont[00:59:44] <Hexxium> Ok then...[01:00:20] <bewgie> is there a way to force it to boot with the free drivers?[01:00:24] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:00:32] <Joseph> \o/[01:00:33] <Joseph> just set F4 to run xfce4-terminal --hide-borders --hide-menubar --drop-down[01:00:39] <Joseph> Set animation to 250 ms[01:00:39] <Hexxium> Nice[01:00:46] <Joseph> looking snazzy.[01:00:47] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@99.196.209.73> has joined #manjaro[01:01:03] <Hexxium> bewgie reboot and select it from the boot screen\\[01:01:16] <Hexxium> Pics Joseph?[01:01:18] <bewgie> how[01:01:19] *** dalput <dalput!54c44a5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.196.74.92> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:01:51] <Hexxium> You restart your computer.[01:02:01] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@176.120.255.231> has joined #manjaro[01:02:14] <Hexxium> Did you see a menu with options when you first started up?[01:02:21] <bewgie> yea[01:02:35] <Hexxium> Select what drivers you need[01:02:36] <bewgie> i see i can press e or c[01:02:54] <bewgie> c gives me bash[01:03:02] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[01:03:28] <Hexxium> What are you talking abut now?[01:03:50] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[01:04:17] <BugzBunny> bewgie, You look at GRUB I assume[01:04:25] <Hexxium> The better question is how much linux experience do you have and have you googled your problem...[01:04:31] <bewgie> advanced options for manjaro linux[01:04:36] <BugzBunny> Yup[01:04:43] <Joseph> ... that's the GRUB bootloader meun[01:04:45] <Joseph> menu*[01:04:49] <bewgie> yes[01:05:08] *** manjaro-web|6245 <manjaro-web|6245!02eaef35@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.234.239.53> has joined #manjaro[01:05:08] <Hexxium> thanks BugzBunny Im close to bashing my head on the keyboard...[01:05:22] <BugzBunny> Hexxium, Dude, it's f'ing though[01:05:22] <Joseph> Hexxium: battery was down, when it recharges a bit I'll take pics :P[01:05:24] <bewgie> i press e to edit commands before boot[01:05:44] <BugzBunny> Hexxium, But I've been here long enough, I have to deduce[01:06:10] <Hexxium> I guess I shouldn't have tried to help him...[01:06:12] *** manjaro-web|6245 <manjaro-web|6245!02eaef35@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.234.239.53> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:06:16] <BugzBunny> No[01:06:22] <BugzBunny> You should have help[01:06:32] <bewgie> i see a lot of commands here[01:06:45] <Hexxium> Im so confused.[01:07:03] <Joseph> wait, why are you in the bootloader menu...? and why are you in the edit mode[01:07:07] * Joseph confused[01:07:28] <BugzBunny> What I think, Joseph should walk bewgie through[01:07:32] <bewgie> im trying to force it to boot with free drivers[01:07:33] *** Roland|067 <Roland|067!02eaef35@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.234.239.53> has joined #manjaro[01:07:37] <BugzBunny> I won't hold hands[01:07:41] <Hexxium> Yup[01:07:45] <bewgie> instead of non free[01:08:45] <Hexxium> bewgie think of us as doctors. If you dont thell a doctor exactly whats happening we cant diagnose your problem. Your only saying "It hurts" That doesnt help us.[01:08:58] <Hexxium> *tell[01:09:12] <Roland|067> Hi all[01:09:29] <bewgie> im not sure what to say honestly[01:09:32] <Hexxium> Hello![01:09:48] <bewgie> im trying to boot with the free driver[01:09:55] <bewgie> im at grub menu[01:09:58] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[01:10:13] <Hexxium> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Installation_Guides refer to the pdf you need.\[01:10:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Zp4Q9d] Installation Guides - Manjaro Linux[01:10:24] <Roland|067> Newby for majaro[01:10:40] <Hexxium> Who you Roland[01:10:49] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[01:10:58] <Roland|067> Any tips after install deepin_[01:11:07] <Hexxium> And bewgie how much experience do you have with linux?[01:11:12] *** crn120 <crn120!43aeda02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.174.218.2> has joined #manjaro[01:11:14] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:11:26] <bewgie> ive used manjaro i3[01:11:29] <Roland|067> Yes only in ubuntu[01:11:32] <bewgie> no issues there[01:11:51] <bewgie> this is the first time seeing a white screen[01:12:15] <Hexxium> bewgie why are you even asking these questions if you already have experience...[01:12:18] <bewgie> i remember in other linux the option to specify boot options[01:12:32] *** ringos <ringos!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye ALL#)[01:12:38] <bewgie> i dont see that here[01:12:38] <BugzBunny> I am reading[01:12:48] <Hexxium> What the heck...[01:13:03] <BugzBunny> Nothing you say contibute to a fucking clue in regards to your problem bewgie[01:13:05] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.153> has joined #manjaro[01:13:19] <BugzBunny> I boot into white screen is all you say[01:13:34] <BugzBunny> Hey, I have cancer[01:13:37] <bewgie> i would like to know how to boot with the free drivers[01:13:44] <Hexxium> OMG[01:13:46] <Joseph> What bewgie is trying to say is that in other distros there were explicit options in the GRUB bootloader to load the OS without nonfree drivers I guess[01:13:46] <Hexxium> STOP IT[01:13:58] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@dslb-092-075-127-159.092.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[01:14:06] <Hexxium> Yeah and Im sure that theres one for Manjaro too...[01:14:19] <bewgie> so im asking you[01:14:20] <BugzBunny> Hexxium, Please[01:14:24] <BugzBunny> I understand[01:14:26] <Hexxium> Sorry...[01:14:46] <BugzBunny> bewgie, What Joseph said is waht you mean?[01:14:51] <bewgie> yes[01:14:55] <Joseph> \o/[01:15:14] <bewgie> puppy linux for example[01:15:30] <bewgie> you put boot = etc[01:15:36] <Joseph> well Puppy is a bit different because that distro is meant to be boot only, and run from RAM[01:15:40] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:15:48] <Joseph> er, live only* I mean[01:15:56] <BugzBunny> We don't know[01:16:02] *** Roland|067 <Roland|067!02eaef35@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.2.234.239.53> has left #manjaro[01:16:05] <Hexxium> You should see this when you boot from a live cd[01:16:05] <BugzBunny> That's why we confuesed[01:16:18] <bewgie> oh[01:16:25] <Hexxium> https://www.unixmen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Manjaro_Start-790x591.png[01:16:25] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/J5waSn] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[01:17:00] <Hexxium> Does this help?[01:17:08] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-178-007-001-061.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:17:13] <bewgie> right i seemto be booting with that second option[01:17:24] <bewgie> this is a hard drive install[01:17:27] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@179.53.5.90> has joined #manjaro[01:17:37] *** tfast500 <tfast500!~Manjarous@host-69-146-15-117.lar-wy.client.bresnan.net> has joined #manjaro[01:17:41] <Hexxium> So its on your hard drive not a usb or cd?[01:17:42] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@179.53.5.90> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:17:48] <bewgie> yes[01:18:06] <bewgie> i installed it with calamares[01:18:14] <Hexxium> Ok then earlier you made it sound like you were booting from a live cd...[01:18:17] <Joseph> bewgie: what you could try is disabling all forms of graphical booting, have it dump you on a terminal, and then have it, from the command line, uninstall the proprietary drivers and install the free/nouveau ones[01:18:21] <tfast500> how can i upgrade the php on the nextcloud plugin to 5.6 from 5.5[01:18:40] <bewgie> ok[01:18:47] <tfast500> i assume this would break the mysql php dependancy also[01:18:47] *** mtn_ <mtn_!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:18:49] <Joseph> bewgie: so when you only get that "white screen" when you boot, doing ctrl + alt + F1 through F6 should take you a terminal[01:18:55] <Joseph> bewgie: and then you can use the command line[01:19:09] <bewgie> ok trying that[01:19:12] <Hexxium> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/switching-from-free-drivers-to-non-free/4976/2[01:19:13] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/vM8EAQ] Switching from free drivers to non free - Newbie Corner - Manjaro[01:19:18] <Hexxium> Or use this...[01:19:22] <Joseph> Hexxium: ...?[01:19:23] <Joseph> Erm[01:19:27] <Joseph> He's going the other way...?[01:19:37] <Hexxium> What[01:19:38] <Joseph> He wants to go from NONFREE to FREE[01:19:41] <Joseph> Dude[01:19:49] <Joseph> Are you not paying attention? His system won't work with nonfree[01:19:53] <Hexxium> Whoops...[01:19:55] <Joseph> He's said that 5 times by now[01:20:02] <bewgie> yah[01:20:02] <Hexxium> Sorry let me rerun that search[01:20:55] <manjaroCinnamon1> Client: HexChat 2.12.1 • OS: ManjaroLinux "Daniella" 16.06.1 • CPU: AMD A4-5000 APU with Radeon(TM) HD Graphics (950MHz) • Memory: Physical: 3.2 GiB Total (2.6 GiB Free) Swap: 7.0 GiB Total (7.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 70.3 GB / 124.4 GB (54.1 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kabini [Radeon HD 8330] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 16h Processor Roo[01:20:55] <manjaroCinnamon1> t Complex • Uptime: 10h 35m 0s[01:22:33] <bewgie> when i hit ctrl alt f1-6 i get the black screen, cant see what im typing[01:22:38] <Joseph> what[01:22:44] <Joseph> It doesn't give you a login prompt?[01:22:48] <Joseph> to put your username, and then password?[01:22:49] <bewgie> no[01:22:54] <Joseph> o.0[01:23:06] *** tfast500 <tfast500!~Manjarous@host-69-146-15-117.lar-wy.client.bresnan.net> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[01:23:11] <bewgie> when i let it sleep, i get a box to put my password[01:23:20] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[01:23:20] <Joseph> right, yes, the lock screen[01:23:23] <Joseph> this is different[01:23:33] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@176.120.255.231> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[01:23:34] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[01:23:36] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:23:44] <bewgie> but ctrl alt f2 just a black screen[01:23:56] *** Cromulent|2 <Cromulent|2!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[01:23:58] <Joseph> huh[01:25:07] <tefter> bewgie what GPU ?[01:25:20] <bewgie> radeon hd 6290[01:25:40] <bewgie> live cd boots fine with free drivers[01:26:02] <tefter> and you installed with nonfree?[01:26:24] <bewgie> it didnt givr me an option[01:26:31] <bewgie> when installing[01:26:37] <Hexxium> Reinstall?[01:26:37] <Joseph> it most certainly did, at the live cd[01:26:40] <Joseph> when you first loaded it.[01:26:54] <bewgie> yes i loaded it with free[01:27:06] <bewgie> then from there, installed[01:27:12] <Joseph> ...but then why doesn't it work now once it's on the HDD?[01:27:21] <Joseph> this gets weirder by the minute.[01:27:33] <bewgie> i dont know its like it installed the non free[01:27:34] <tefter> bewgie boot from live cd chroot then install free driver[01:27:57] <bewgie> ok[01:28:23] <rhg135> I can't believe the repos still have inkscape 0.91 it's been a while now[01:28:46] <Joseph> when is that from? 0.92 is the latest stable from what I see[01:29:06] <rhg135> it's annoying since 0.92 files are slightly different[01:29:19] <rhg135> from now[01:29:37] <rhg135> wait, in manjaro or as a release[01:29:39] <rhg135> ?[01:29:48] <bewgie> ok so chroot ... im still wet brhind the ears hete[01:30:16] <Joseph> rhg135: as a release, from inkscape themselves https://inkscape.org/en/[01:30:18] <bewgie> does this mean run a terminal from my hard drive install[01:30:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/LNeSdY] Draw Freely | Inkscape[01:30:33] <rhg135> ah ok in the repos now[01:30:37] <rhg135> weird[01:31:00] <Joseph> rhg135: maybe it just got pushed as we were speaking :[01:31:01] <Joseph> :)[01:31:07] <rhg135> must have not synced my repos[01:31:13] <Joseph> oh, maybe :)[01:32:03] *** hpp <hpp!~hpp@85-76-34-159-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:32:08] <bewgie> tefter what did youmean by chroot[01:33:09] <tefter> bewgie never mind[01:33:15] <rhg135> you boot live media and switch your root to the install[01:33:27] <bewgie> oh[01:33:51] <rhg135> let's you poke it in the context[01:35:11] <bewgie> i named the user lulu[01:35:38] <bewgie> when i try chroot --userspec=lulu[01:35:57] <bewgie> it says missing operand[01:36:17] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[01:36:23] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[01:38:35] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[01:38:36] *** anonyth <anonyth!~manjaro-k@c-24-21-113-228.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[01:39:12] *** wamba <wamba!5fadc2c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.173.194.193> has joined #manjaro[01:40:15] *** Aria <Aria!~Aria@188.226.179.168> has joined #manjaro[01:40:15] *** Aria is now known as Guest8383[01:40:52] *** Guest8383 <Guest8383!~Aria@188.226.179.168> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:41:14] <bewgie> tefter i am reading about mhwd-chroot[01:41:23] <bewgie> is this w[01:41:29] <bewgie> what i need[01:42:47] <rhg135> never used it but sounds right[01:42:53] <BugzBunny>[01:43:04] <BugzBunny>[01:43:17] <bewgie> ok im installing it[01:44:10] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@dslb-092-075-127-159.092.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:44:18] *** crn120 <crn120!43aeda02@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.174.218.2> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[01:45:27] <BugzBunny> Nice[01:45:34] <BugzBunny> Xserver[01:45:39] <BugzBunny> goes to sleep[01:45:45] <BugzBunny> move my mouse[01:46:00] <BugzBunny> Won't wake up the screen.. I have to reboot[01:46:02] <BugzBunny> xD[01:46:08] <BugzBunny> Joys of Linux[01:46:35] <Joseph> ...that's exactly the thing I had to fix with the new kernel[01:46:48] <Joseph> the screen went to sleep but pressing buttons or moving the mouse didn't bring it back[01:47:11] <BugzBunny> Really[01:47:15] <BugzBunny> Same shit here[01:47:26] <Joseph> What kernel were you on?[01:47:37] <BugzBunny> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: AMD FX-8320E Eight-Core Processor (1.40GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (6.9 GiB Free) Swap: 6.9 GiB Total (6.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 9.9 GB / 43.7 GB (33.8 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD9x0/RX980 Host Bridge • Uptime: 3m 10s[01:47:47] <BugzBunny> Hmm doesn't say[01:47:51] <Joseph> what *kernel* version[01:47:53] <Joseph> not just OS[01:47:56] <BugzBunny> I know[01:48:05] <BugzBunny> I was hoping it would say that[01:48:10] <tefter> uname -a[01:48:11] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[01:48:23] <bewgie> hmm[01:48:38] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p5DCDEC64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:49:00] <BugzBunny> sh: inxi: command not found[01:49:09] <BugzBunny> Did you see this ?[01:49:49] *** wamba <wamba!5fadc2c1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.173.194.193> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[01:49:59] <BugzBunny> Resuming in non X mode: xdpyinfo not found. For package install advice run: inxi --recommends[01:49:59] <BugzBunny> CPU~Quad core AMD FX-8320E Eight-Core (-HT-MCP-) speed/max~1400/3200 MHz Kernel~4.7.0-1-amd-staging x86_64 Up~5 min Mem~633.5/7885.5MB HDD~1128.0GB(1.5% used) Procs~186 Client~HexChat 2.12.4 inxi~2.3.8[01:50:10] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[01:50:13] *** joaojotta <joaojotta!~joaojotta@acb1-84-91-18-209.netvisao.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:50:25] <Joseph> Kernel~4.7.0-1[01:50:26] <Joseph> I see[01:50:54] *** notthisjef <notthisjef!55d452b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.212.82.184> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:53:38] <BugzBunny> Joseph, You figure it out yet?[01:53:51] <Joseph> well I'm on 4.9.2, that version fixed it for sure[01:53:56] <Joseph> not sure if the fix was around on 4.7[01:54:30] <BugzBunny> Unfortunately for me[01:54:39] *** Guest65660 <Guest65660!~quassel@155-149-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:54:42] *** Hexxium <Hexxium!49d5cbe0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.213.203.224> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[01:54:58] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[01:55:00] <BugzBunny> amd-staging means, DAL the new DisplayPort features and HDMI 2.1[01:55:14] <Joseph> ah I see[01:55:14] <BugzBunny> So, 4.9 doesn't have that stuff yet[01:55:18] <Joseph> yeah I see[01:55:25] <BugzBunny> I have RX 480[01:55:43] *** bewgiepc <bewgiepc!42414836@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.65.72.54> has joined #manjaro[01:55:53] <bewgiepc> ok i am now in the live cd[01:56:12] <bewgiepc> i think i am chroot in the hard drive installation[01:56:26] <Joseph> what does the terminal prompt look like?[01:56:38] <bewgiepc> [manjaro a2cc42ae-b694-419f-b42c-e92c5d4209eb]#[01:56:43] <bewgiepc> its red[01:56:45] <Joseph> yes, #[01:56:54] <Joseph> ok, good. the # is the important part. it means you're the root user[01:56:58] <BugzBunny> I can't use 4.9[01:57:04] <BugzBunny> I jsut won't have HDMI audio[01:57:07] <BugzBunny> that's all[01:57:11] <BugzBunny> let me reboot[01:57:12] <BugzBunny> brb[01:57:16] <Joseph> k[01:57:22] <bewgiepc> i mounted the partition where the manjaro install is[01:57:30] <bewgiepc> went to its folder in the file manager[01:57:36] <Joseph> yes[01:57:40] <bewgiepc> ran a terminal window from it[01:58:28] <bewgiepc> and typed sudo -s[01:59:08] <bewgiepc> now that i am here, i am trying to remove the video drivers[01:59:23] <bewgiepc> so i can install the free drivers[02:00:44] <bewgiepc> lspci gives me: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 6290][02:01:04] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:01:26] *** dracfl <dracfl!~dracfl@67.231.161.40> has joined #manjaro[02:01:39] <dracfl> hello peoples :)[02:02:00] <BugzBunny> <BugzBunny> Resuming in non X mode: xdpyinfo not found. For package install advice run: inxi --recommends[02:02:00] <BugzBunny> <BugzBunny> CPU~Quad core AMD FX-8320E Eight-Core (-HT-MCP-) speed/max~1400/3200 MHz Kernel~4.8.13-1-ARCH x86_64 Up~1 min Mem~373.0/7885.3MB HDD~1128.0GB(1.4% used) Procs~192 Client~HexChat 2.12.4 inxi~2.3.8[02:02:00] <BugzBunny> <BugzBunny> THat's like what ArchLinux haves[02:02:00] <BugzBunny> <BugzBunny> I don't want update and brake shit[02:02:01] <BugzBunny> <BugzBunny> Everything is working fine for now[02:03:20] <dracfl> i'm having an issue installing. just got a new laptop, msi gs63vr with a nvidia 1060. with the normal install iso, it hard locks after the 'accounts service' line during boot. when i run the net install iso, i can get to the configuring step, where it hard locks on 'mhwd is installing your video drivers'[02:04:18] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[02:04:29] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[02:04:55] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@95.67.89.223> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:05:09] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:05:11] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:06:10] <bewgie> hmm[02:06:14] <dracfl> any pointers or ideas to try would be appreciated[02:06:28] <bewgie> ok how do i change this video driver?[02:07:01] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@181.114.122.27> has joined #manjaro[02:08:26] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[02:12:16] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:12:42] <bewgiepc> tefter i chroot ed into the hard driver installation from the live cd[02:12:49] <bewgiepc> can you help me from here?[02:13:07] <BugzBunny> dracfl, Alright, well, start from step 1[02:14:08] <BugzBunny> dracfl, How are installing Manjaro on your new laptop?[02:14:15] <tefter> sudo mhwd -li[02:14:19] <dracfl> usb flash drive.[02:14:39] <dracfl> currently with the 'net' install[02:14:41] <bewgiepc> ok it says video-ati[02:14:44] <BugzBunny> dracfl, Did you verify the ISO?[02:14:54] <dracfl> yes[02:14:54] <tefter> free?[02:15:02] <bewgiepc> just video-ati[02:15:05] <bewgiepc> not free[02:15:10] <BugzBunny> dracfl, How are you imaging the USB?[02:15:22] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@181.114.127.43> has joined #manjaro[02:15:23] <dracfl> dd from my dell xps 13 running manjaro[02:15:39] <BugzBunny> What arguments did you pass to dd?[02:15:42] <tefter> ok: sudo mhwd -r pci video-ati[02:16:15] <dracfl> dd bs=4M if=./manjaro-net-16.08-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdb status=progress && sync[02:16:29] <BugzBunny> Looks good to me[02:16:45] <dracfl> i just ran that mhwd -li and it lists: video-hybrid-intel-nouveau-bumblebee[02:16:51] <bewgiepc> hmmm[02:16:52] <dracfl> so apparently optimus fun[02:17:07] <bewgiepc> how do i make sure i am really chroot into that installation?[02:17:09] <BugzBunny> Wait...[02:17:18] <batch> BugzBunny 0/[02:17:24] <BugzBunny> I thought you had trouble installing[02:17:29] <dracfl> i dont mind running purely on the intel gfx if i can figure out how to tell it that[02:17:31] <dracfl> i am[02:17:34] <BugzBunny> batch, wassup bro[02:17:39] <dracfl> the net iso gives you a command line[02:17:39] <bewgiepc> because i did mhwd -li from a regular terminal and it also says video-ati[02:17:44] <dracfl> so i figured i'd run it[02:17:58] <batch> i'm ok BugzBunny thx and you?[02:17:59] *** tofo1 <tofo1!~tofo1@clj145.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[02:18:00] <dracfl> but if i try to actually install from now, it will hard lock during configuring video drivers[02:18:09] <dracfl> and thanks in advance for the help :)[02:18:16] <BugzBunny> batch, I am around for the time being[02:18:30] <batch> aaah great great[02:18:36] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@181.114.122.27> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[02:18:41] <batch> i brb BugzBunny[02:18:46] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:18:48] <BugzBunny> Sure[02:19:33] <dracfl> so i wonder if theres a way to force mhwd to use just the intel driver[02:19:50] <BugzBunny> Uhhh, dracfl How the fuck does it hard lock? To be honest, you interpet what you see on you screen wrong?[02:20:31] *** snypz <snypz!~lynkz@c-24-131-10-188.hsd1.va.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[02:20:34] <dracfl> um. well the cursor thats normally blinking stops. i can't switch to alternate terminals (ie ctrl-alt-fX) and ctrl alt delete doesnt work[02:20:47] <BugzBunny> What ISO did you download?[02:20:57] <dracfl> manjaro-net-16.08-x86_64.iso[02:21:04] <BugzBunny> Oh[02:22:10] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[02:22:45] *** Bito <Bito!~pablo@187.59.8.70> has joined #manjaro[02:23:41] <BugzBunny> dracfl, http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/sysrq.htm[02:23:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/T6uCLq] Linux Howtos: Tips and Tricks -> Magic SysRq Key[02:24:21] <BugzBunny> Linux does panics, it doesn't hard lock[02:25:06] <dracfl> right ok so which magic key do you recommend trying.[02:25:37] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hpvonisbszqfbkac> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:26:23] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[02:27:01] <BugzBunny> dracfl, Don't assume the system locked up[02:27:45] <BugzBunny> dracfl, There is effort to prevent that happen, so you can recover.. what you see is X server locked up[02:27:58] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@181.114.127.43> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[02:28:33] <rhg135> there is a way to set up the magic sysrq[02:28:35] <BugzBunny> From you what you telling me, X server is locking up[02:29:54] <dracfl> net install has no X server[02:30:00] <bewgiepc> tefter ok i finally properly chrooted[02:30:24] <bewgiepc> and i see that the driver in that particular installation is video-catalyst[02:30:26] <BugzBunny> <dracfl> um. well the cursor thats normally blinking stops. i can't switch to alternate terminals (ie ctrl-alt-fX) and ctrl alt delete doesnt work[02:30:40] <bewgiepc> so that was in fact the cuplrit[02:30:56] *** snypz <snypz!~lynkz@c-24-131-10-188.hsd1.va.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:31:22] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:32:08] <rhg135> drafcl, ofc it does. how else would you use calamares?[02:32:46] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~eddie@mot04304.swm.uni-mannheim.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:34:33] <rumflump> you know how terminal has your username and machine name in the input prompt? I'm starting to find that an annoying waste of space.anyone know which file contains the setting for that?[02:34:44] <bewgiepc> upon trying to remove video-catalyst i am getting: :: skippy-xd: removing catalyst-server breaks dependency 'xorg-server' Error: pacman failed![02:34:53] <bewgiepc> any ideas tefter?[02:36:52] <tefter> remove driver then install free one[02:37:04] <tefter> sudo mhwd -r pci driver-name[02:37:06] <tefter> to remove[02:37:14] <tefter> sudo mhwd -a pci free 0300[02:37:18] <tefter> to install[02:37:45] <dracfl> i *might* have just figured it out[02:37:52] <dracfl> https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee/issues/764#issuecomment-234494238[02:37:56] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ZtWBJl] Laptop freezes when starting X11 and discrete graphics are OFF · Issue #764 · Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee · GitHub[02:38:07] <dracfl> i've gotten further than last time so far... using acpi_osi=! acpi_osi="Windows 2009"[02:39:12] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[02:39:35] <bewgiepc> tefter that is the -r command i used[02:39:44] <bewgiepc> it gave me that error: skippy-xd: removing catalyst-server breaks dependency 'xorg-server'[02:39:51] <bewgiepc> pacman failed[02:40:03] <bewgiepc> do i remove xorg-server ?[02:40:08] <tefter> no[02:40:26] <tefter> try then other one sudo mhwd -a pci free 0300[02:41:06] <bewgiepc> no device for class 0300 found tefter[02:41:23] <tefter> hm[02:41:39] <BugzBunny> me too[02:41:42] <BugzBunny> hm[02:41:44] <tefter> mhwd -l what says?[02:41:54] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out)[02:42:24] <BugzBunny> paste here[02:42:25] <bewgiepc> video-catalyst 2016.09.03 false PCI[02:42:47] <bewgiepc> thats for the hd install, the non working one[02:42:58] <tefter> mhwd -l list just one?[02:43:45] <bewgiepc> mhwd -l lists nothing[02:43:51] <bewgiepc> it just goes to the prompt[02:44:22] <BugzBunny> so what[02:44:27] <BugzBunny> paste it anyway[02:44:35] <BugzBunny> fuck[02:44:35] <bewgiepc> when i do it in a terminal for the live cd i get > 0000:00:01.0 (0300:1002:9807) Display controller ATI Technologies Inc: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NAME VERSION FREEDRIVER TYPE -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- video-catalyst 2016.09.03 false[02:44:54] <bewgiepc> bunny it literally goes back to the terminal like it doesnt even do a list[02:45:02] <BugzBunny> awersome[02:45:03] <rhg135> rumflump: once you have several computers it's not, but that's the default $PS1 var, so just set it to something else[02:45:04] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:45:23] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[02:45:24] <bewgiepc> video-vesa[02:45:29] <bewgiepc> thats the last part\[02:47:25] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:47:40] <BugzBunny> <bewgiepc> it gave me that error: skippy-xd: removing catalyst-server breaks dependency 'xorg-server'[02:48:22] <BugzBunny> Uh, I think Ringo is more familiar with this error[02:48:26] <bewgiepc> thats when i tried sudo mhwd -r pci video-catalyst[02:48:56] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@172.56.35.244> has joined #manjaro[02:49:03] <BugzBunny> bewgiepc, The old video card, 6xxx right?[02:49:07] <tefter> try sudo mhwd -i pci video-ati[02:49:08] *** manjaroCinnamon is now known as Baloc[02:49:47] <rhg135> sudo pacman -Rdd xorg-server[02:50:09] <bewgiepc> yes bunny[02:50:17] <bewgiepc> radeon hd 6290[02:51:02] <bewgiepc> sudo pacman -Rdd xorg-server = target not found[02:51:14] <BugzBunny> bewgiepc, try tefter suggest first[02:51:20] <BugzBunny> I am red team[02:51:30] <bewgiepc> that one says pacman failed[02:51:39] <BugzBunny> But try what he says first[02:51:47] <BugzBunny> paste it[02:51:47] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[02:51:47] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[02:51:47] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[02:51:54] <BugzBunny> Paste it here[02:52:06] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[02:52:28] <BugzBunny> CountryfiedLinux, Whatup bro?[02:52:33] <bewgiepc> [manjaro /]# sudo mhwd -i pci video-ati Warning: no matching device for config 'video-ati' found! > Installing video-ati... Using default Has lib32 support: true Sourcing /var/lib/mhwd/db/pci/graphic_drivers/xf86-video-ati/MHWDCONFIG Processing classid: 0300 Sourcing /var/lib/mhwd/scripts/include/0300 Processing classid: 0380[02:53:01] <bewgiepc> Packages (2) archlinux-keyring-20170104-1 manjaro-system-20161101-2 Total Download Size: 0.61 MiB Total Installed Size: 0.82 MiB Net Upgrade Size: 0.03 MiB :: Proceed with installation? [Y/n] error: could not open file: /etc/mtab: No such file or directory error: could not determine filesystem mount points error: failed to commit transaction (unexpected error) Errors occurred, no packages were upgraded. resolving depende[02:53:16] <CountryfiedLinux> BugzBunny: Chest workout earlier, sold my Xbox One S earlier than that, had fish for dinner, that's about it. You?[02:53:26] <bewgiepc> packages... :: xf86-video-ati and catalyst-server are in conflict (xorg-server). Remove catalyst-server? [y/N] error: unresolvable package conflicts detected error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: xf86-video-ati and catalyst-server are in conflict (xorg-server<1.19.0) Error: pacman failed![02:53:40] <BugzBunny> keep pasting bewgiepc[02:53:45] <batch> :p[02:53:49] <bewgiepc> thats all she wrote[02:54:17] <BugzBunny> alright.. you have a lot of problems[02:54:26] <batch> is bewgie chrooted?[02:54:34] <bewgiepc> yes[02:54:47] <batch> using manual way or mhwd-choot?[02:54:50] <CountryfiedLinux> bewgie Use pastebin please.[02:54:51] <rhg135> I mean, sudo pacman -Rdd catalyst-server[02:55:12] <rhg135> man, I need to eat, getting dizzy[02:56:01] <bewgiepc> i used chroot not mhwd-chroot batch\[02:56:36] <bewgiepc> when i try mhwd-chroot it says : gnome-terminal -e mhwd-chroot-shell[02:57:07] <BugzBunny> <bewgiepc> when i try mhwd-chroot it says : gnome-terminal -e mhwd-chroot-shell[02:57:17] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@124-148-147-178.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[02:57:22] <BugzBunny> <bewgiepc> packages... :: xf86-video-ati and catalyst-server are in conflict (xorg-server). Remove catalyst-server? [y/N] error: unresolvable package conflicts detected error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies) :: xf86-video-ati and catalyst-server are in conflict (xorg-server<1.19.0) Error: pacman failed![02:57:29] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[02:57:53] <BugzBunny> <bewgiepc> [manjaro /]# sudo mhwd -i pci video-ati Warning: no matching device for config 'video-ati' found! > Installing video-ati... Using default Has lib32 support: true Sourcing /var/lib/mhwd/db/pci/graphic_drivers/xf86-video-ati/MHWDCONFIG Processing classid: 0300 Sourcing /var/lib/mhwd/scripts/include/0300 Processing classid: 0380[02:58:03] <bewgiepc> sudo pacman -Rdd catalyst-server worked rhg135[02:58:06] <batch> BugzBunny please stop lol[02:58:20] <BugzBunny> batch, make me[02:58:29] <bewgiepc> fight fight![02:58:38] <bewgiepc> mooooooooom!![02:58:39] <batch> :D[02:58:50] <BugzBunny> Yeah, let's fight, I don't fucking teling batch to suck my dick[02:59:16] <batch> BugzBunny what is wrong?[02:59:54] <BugzBunny> batch, You might not understanding, I have penis, suck it[03:00:02] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1E70202F84AB26E62DBD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:00:04] <rhg135> children, behave[03:00:21] <BugzBunny> rofl[03:00:23] <batch> lol BugzBunny u drunk?[03:00:24] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt3 <Manj-1611-Lxqt3!~j@48.147.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:00:45] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.153> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[03:00:45] <BugzBunny> Why should I?[03:01:30] <BugzBunny> batch, Dude, so you understand, you can hit that ignore button[03:01:31] *** Digitteknohippie <Digitteknohippie!~user@fsf/member/digit> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[03:01:35] * batch has no clue[03:01:55] <rhg135> /ignore BugzBunny[03:01:57] <BugzBunny> batch, PM[03:02:04] <batch> ke[03:02:13] <rhg135> like that[03:02:39] <bewgiepc> ok i tried to sudo mhwd -a pci free 0300[03:02:47] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[03:03:11] <bewgiepc> after succesfully removing catalyst-server[03:03:15] <rhg135> did it work?[03:03:20] <rhg135> it should now[03:03:20] <bewgiepc> no[03:03:35] <rhg135> aww[03:03:43] <bewgiepc> invalid use of option -a[03:03:49] <rhg135> oh[03:04:06] <bewgiepc> Warning: No device of class 0300 found![03:04:32] <rhg135> I usually do something like, sudo mhwd -i pci video-ati[03:04:38] <rhg135> but idk[03:04:46] <bewgiepc> i tried that aswell[03:04:50] <bewgiepc> invalid use of -a[03:04:57] <rhg135> try it again[03:05:10] <rhg135> catalyst-server is gone now[03:06:26] <tefter> try sudo mhwd -i pci video-ati[03:06:55] *** Joseph <Joseph!~Penskins@gateway/tor-sasl/penskins> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:07:24] <bewgiepc> tefter http://pastebin.ca/3761352[03:07:25] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/W3Gawc] pastebin - aww bewgie - post number 3761352[03:07:29] <BugzBunny> batch, I will be nothing but you like right[03:07:39] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@124-148-147-178.dyn.iinet.net.au> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[03:07:48] *** Baloc <Baloc!~Manjarous@172.56.35.244> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:07:54] <BugzBunny> I don't fucking care btw[03:08:03] <tefter> could not open file: /etc/mtab[03:08:12] <tefter> are you sure you chrooted properly?[03:08:14] <batch> BugzBunny what..?[03:08:19] <batch> pm back[03:08:27] <rhg135> are you in a chroot? bewgiepc[03:08:40] <bewgiepc> yes[03:08:54] <tefter> ls -l /etc[03:08:56] <bewgiepc> i did chroot /mnt[03:09:02] <BugzBunny> batch, There is no discoussion, my attitude is clear[03:09:04] <rhg135> you need to mount /proc /sys /dev and copy in resolv.conf[03:09:11] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@172.56.35.244> has joined #manjaro[03:09:24] *** manjaroCinnamon is now known as Baloc[03:09:33] *** tofo1 <tofo1!~tofo1@clj145.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:09:36] <rhg135> so do it manually or use a script like archstrap et al[03:10:08] <bewgiepc> ok now im lost[03:10:22] <bewgiepc> how do i mount all of those[03:10:23] <tefter> bewgiepc[03:10:28] <tefter> exit chroot[03:10:31] <bewgiepc> ok[03:10:34] <tefter> enter cd /mnt[03:10:41] <rhg135> it should say on the arch wiki[03:10:41] <tefter> then systemd-nspawn[03:10:50] <tefter> taht should be easy[03:10:54] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@80.86.161.88> has joined #manjaro[03:10:59] <rhg135> ah[03:11:18] <rhg135> back in my day we had no such fancy things tefter[03:11:43] <rhg135> but yeah, that should work[03:11:44] <bewgiepc> [manjaro@manjaro mnt]$ sudo systemd-nspawn Spawning container mnt on /mnt. Press ^] three times within 1s to kill container.[03:11:53] <bewgiepc> do i chroot now[03:12:08] <tefter> you are chrooted now[03:12:26] <bewgiepc> oh cool[03:12:29] <tefter> try again sudo mhwd -i pci video-ati[03:12:56] <bewgiepc> its doing stuff!!!!!![03:13:01] <bewgiepc> :D[03:13:08] <bewgiepc> success[03:13:17] <BugzBunny> <bewgiepc> [manjaro@manjaro mnt]$ sudo systemd-nspawn Spawning container mnt on /mnt. Press ^] three times within 1s to kill container.[03:13:18] <BugzBunny> <bewgiepc> do i chroot now[03:13:18] <BugzBunny> <tefter> you are chrooted now[03:13:18] <BugzBunny> <bewgiepc> oh cool[03:13:18] <BugzBunny> <tefter> try again sudo mhwd -i pci video-ati[03:13:19] <BugzBunny> <bewgiepc> its doing stuff!!!!!![03:13:21] <BugzBunny> <bewgiepc> :D[03:13:23] <BugzBunny> <bewgiepc> success[03:13:28] <BugzBunny> k[03:13:34] <tefter> now reboot and see if ti works[03:13:50] <bewgiepc> mhwd -l says video-catalyst is still installed[03:13:58] <tefter> remove it[03:13:59] <rhg135> remove it[03:14:03] <tefter> yes[03:14:04] <rhg135> it's not really[03:14:12] <rhg135> it's just confused[03:14:30] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@181.114.122.51> has joined #manjaro[03:16:22] <bewgiepc> ok i removed it[03:16:42] <tefter> now reboot[03:17:09] <bewgiepc> k brb[03:17:15] <bewgiepc> thanks[03:17:30] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[03:17:31] <BugzBunny> You get fixed[03:17:36] <rhg135> with luck it should work and ye shall taste the sweetness of manjaro[03:17:40] <BugzBunny> I personaly care about[03:18:24] <BugzBunny> While I am a cunt[03:19:01] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[03:19:16] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@181.114.122.51> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:19:17] <CountryfiedLinux> C U Next Tuesday BugzBunny :P[03:19:46] <bewgie> hmm[03:20:02] <BugzBunny> CountryfiedLinux, Trump is President[03:20:04] <BugzBunny> Sure[03:20:06] <bewgie> itsnot booting[03:20:20] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[03:20:41] <bewgie> it stopped at started hostname service[03:21:18] <tefter> try to switch to vt[03:21:25] <bewgie> how[03:21:26] <tefter> ctr-alt-f2 eg[03:21:46] <bewgie> oki see login[03:21:50] <tefter> login[03:21:53] <tefter> as root[03:21:54] *** bewgiepc <bewgiepc!42414836@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.65.72.54> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:22:33] <bewgie> ok ilogged in[03:22:40] <bewgie> did sudo -s[03:22:44] <tefter> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log[03:23:17] <tefter> what does it say why does not starts?[03:23:54] <bewgie> i cd to that dir[03:24:04] <bewgie> how do iopen thr log[03:24:11] <tefter> less filename[03:24:28] <bewgie> less?[03:24:32] <tefter> yep[03:24:44] <bewgie> im in the log folder[03:24:48] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:25:04] *** Hexxium <Hexxium!49d5cbe0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.213.203.224> has joined #manjaro[03:25:16] <bewgie> how do i open that file[03:25:16] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~student@101.98.141.214> has joined #manjaro[03:25:23] <tefter> i told you less[03:25:28] <bewgie> ok lol[03:25:38] <Hexxium> Oh is bewgie still getting help?[03:25:55] <Hexxium> Not being mean[03:25:55] <tefter> yep[03:26:03] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~student@101.98.141.214> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:26:05] <BugzBunny> That's right[03:26:19] <Hexxium> What are we on now?[03:26:22] <BugzBunny> I don't fucking judge[03:26:30] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has joined #manjaro[03:26:34] <BugzBunny> I might hate[03:26:48] <Hexxium> Im not. Im only curious.[03:27:04] <BugzBunny> Let tefter help bewgie[03:27:25] <bewgie> im going to boot the live cd[03:27:32] <bewgie> so i can paste thid[03:27:36] <bewgie> its long[03:27:36] <Hexxium> So a reinstall?[03:28:02] <tefter> just see error[03:28:08] <tefter> it should be about driver[03:28:19] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[03:28:23] <bewgie> hmm[03:28:29] <bewgie> oklemme see[03:28:47] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@80.86.161.88> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[03:28:54] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@80.86.161.88> has joined #manjaro[03:29:47] <bewgie> its like in chinese[03:29:52] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[03:29:54] <bewgie> bear with me[03:30:23] <Hexxium> Chinese?[03:30:27] <tefter> does it say no appropiate driver found or similar?[03:30:49] <BugzBunny> bewgie, Pastebin what you see in here[03:31:17] <bewgie> pastebinning it[03:31:24] <BugzBunny> Yes[03:31:26] <BugzBunny> here[03:31:32] <BugzBunny> Do it[03:32:26] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[03:32:34] <BugzBunny> If you scared[03:32:46] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[03:34:08] <BugzBunny> [root@DESKTOP-8RF1D0U ~]# pacman -Sl | head[03:34:08] <BugzBunny> core acl 2.2.52-3 [installed][03:34:08] <BugzBunny> core archlinux-keyring 20170104-1 [installed][03:34:08] <BugzBunny> core attr 2.4.47-2 [installed][03:34:09] <BugzBunny> core autoconf 2.69-4 [installed][03:34:10] <BugzBunny> core automake 1.15-2 [installed][03:34:11] <BugzBunny> core b43-fwcutter 019-1[03:34:13] <BugzBunny> core bash 4.4.011-2 [installed: 4.4.005-2][03:34:15] <BugzBunny> core binutils 2.27-1 [installed][03:34:17] <BugzBunny> core bison 3.0.4-2 [installed][03:34:19] <BugzBunny> core bridge-utils 1.6-1[03:35:31] *** dodgejcr <dodgejcr!~dodgejcr@unaffiliated/dodgejcr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[03:36:31] <Hexxium> Ok then...[03:37:34] *** bewgiepc <bewgiepc!42414836@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.65.72.54> has joined #manjaro[03:38:19] <bewgiepc> http://pastebin.ca/3761356[03:38:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/CYumsk] pastebin - Stuff - post number 3761356[03:38:31] <bewgiepc> ok tefter there it is[03:39:40] <tefter> seems that driver is not loaded[03:39:49] <tefter> try installing it again[03:39:51] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[03:40:07] <tefter> perhaps in a process of removal of other driver something got messed[03:40:43] <bewgiepc> hmm[03:40:45] <bewgiepc> ok[03:41:08] <bewgiepc> should i use -a instead of -i this time tefter[03:41:16] <tefter> try[03:41:27] <tefter> but don't chroot now as you have console[03:41:49] *** dodgejcr <dodgejcr!~dodgejcr@24-40-239-211.fidnet.com> has joined #manjaro[03:42:07] <BugzBunny> dodgejcr, is here[03:42:12] <BugzBunny> We run[03:42:21] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[03:43:57] <bewgiepc> [mnt /]# mhwd -a pci free 0300 > Skipping already installed config 'video-ati' for device: 0000:00:01.0 (0300:1002:9807) Display controller ATI Technologies Inc Wrestler [Radeon HD 6290][03:44:26] <tefter> try --force option or such[03:44:55] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132003122.public.t-mobile.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[03:45:06] *** bewgietime <bewgietime!42414836@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.65.72.54> has joined #manjaro[03:45:24] <dracfl> thanks for the help folks :)[03:45:33] <dracfl> got it working with that acpi_osi stuff[03:46:11] <bewgietime> error: failed to update multilib (download library error) error: failed to synchronize any databases error: failed to init transaction (download library error) Error: pacman failed! Error: script failed![03:46:40] <tefter> do you have network?[03:46:43] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@2604:6000:1016:816f:380a:b85f:7c84:ca87> has joined #manjaro[03:46:48] <bewgietime> yeah[03:46:58] <bewgietime> im on the pc right now typing this[03:47:15] <tefter> i mean in that console[03:47:16] <bewgietime> i am chrooted in since i rebooted to paste that log into pastebin[03:47:56] <bewgietime> not in the console im back on live cd chrooted[03:48:20] <bewgietime> the console had no network either way[03:48:21] <tefter> hm pacman seems have connection problems[03:48:31] <bewgietime> hmm[03:48:33] <tefter> try pacman-mirrors -g[03:48:44] *** bewgiepc <bewgiepc!42414836@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.65.72.54> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:49:30] <bewgietime> Error: Failed to reach the server: [Errno -2] Name or service not known Vietnam -> ..... http://mirror.freedif.org/Manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch Error: Failed to reach the server: [Errno -2] Name or service not known :: Generated and saved '/etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist' mirrorlist.[03:49:32] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/5fD1lX] (link was unresponsive: http://mirror.freedif.org/Manjaro/stable/$repo/$arch)[03:49:46] <bewgietime> thats just a couple of the mirrors it checked all failed[03:50:07] <tefter> so either you don't have network or dns problem[03:50:26] <bewgietime> well thats the chroot[03:50:41] <tefter> what ifconfig says?[03:50:48] <tefter> or ip addr list[03:50:53] <bewgietime> i did the sudo systemd-nspawn thing and chrooted there[03:52:01] <bewgietime> [mnt /]# ip addr list 1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1 link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever inet6 ::1/128 scope host valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever 2: enp6s0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc fq_codel state DOWN group default qlen 1000[03:52:30] <tefter> so you don't have network[03:52:46] <BugzBunny> fq_codel state DOWN group default qlen 1000[03:52:59] <bewgietime> i mean im in the live cd with firefox typing this[03:53:09] <bewgietime> that output is frrom the chroot i made[03:53:11] <bewgietime> for the hd install[03:53:13] <tefter> yes but chrooted env does not have]\[03:53:15] <bewgietime> from within this live cd[03:53:19] <bewgietime> oh i see[03:53:20] <bewgietime> hmm[03:53:28] <bewgietime> how do i give it network[03:53:39] <tefter> google up a bit ;p[03:53:43] <tefter> i don't know[03:53:47] <bewgietime> hmmm[03:53:57] <tefter> ifconfig try to see what's there[03:54:24] <BugzBunny> I was trying to figure what disk had my music[03:54:31] <BugzBunny> Let me read back[03:55:04] <BugzBunny> Because I wanted to to listen my local music[03:55:21] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@2604:6000:1016:816f:380a:b85f:7c84:ca87> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[03:55:41] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@2604:6000:1016:816f:380a:b85f:7c84:ca87> has joined #manjaro[03:55:56] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@2604:6000:1016:816f:380a:b85f:7c84:ca87> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:55:58] *** manjaro-web|9652 <manjaro-web|9652!4b9119e4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.145.25.228> has joined #manjaro[03:56:16] *** Konata_ <Konata_!~izumi@104.238.169.108> has joined #manjaro[03:56:19] <BugzBunny> I read..[03:56:35] <BugzBunny> bewgietime, What is you skill using Linux?[03:57:26] <bewgietime> not much now that i am running into these newissues[03:57:32] <bewgietime> i am reading: Fortunately, the solution to this problem is quick and easy. In order for the chroot environment to connect to the Internet, you need to copy the DNS resolution information from your standard Linux installation to the new chrooted installation that you have created. Simply copy the resolv.conf file from one installation to the other. The following is an example:[03:58:09] <bewgietime> cp /etc/resolv.conf /var/chroot/etc/resolv.conf[03:58:25] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@80.86.161.88> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[03:59:17] <BugzBunny> Why?[03:59:28] <bewgietime> to give the chroot network[03:59:31] <BugzBunny> I like arch-chroot[03:59:38] <bewgietime> wut[03:59:43] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-075-001-121.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[04:00:09] <BugzBunny> You using vanilla chroot?[04:00:19] <bewgietime> yeah[04:01:06] <BugzBunny> I like arch-chroot, it's parot of arch-install-tools I belive[04:01:17] <BugzBunny> I don't like mhwd-chroot[04:01:23] <bewgietime> hmm[04:01:27] <bewgietime> ill install it[04:01:56] <bewgietime> its all so complicated[04:02:34] <BugzBunny> Be a idiot[04:03:34] *** tmsbrdrs__ <tmsbrdrs__!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[04:04:23] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[04:05:19] *** dracfl <dracfl!~dracfl@67.231.161.40> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:06:49] *** bewgietime <bewgietime!42414836@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.65.72.54> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:07:06] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-075-001-121.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[04:07:09] *** bewgiepc <bewgiepc!42414836@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.65.72.54> has joined #manjaro[04:08:05] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:08:06] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-075-001-121.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[04:08:12] <BugzBunny> I waa stupid at one time[04:08:17] <BugzBunny> Trues me[04:09:18] <BugzBunny> I didn't know that ...I mean, ... trying to remember some shit I did when I did before[04:14:14] *** chomwitt <chomwitt!~chomwitt@athedsl-31597.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[04:21:54] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@119.30.39.237> has joined #manjaro[04:22:03] <manjaroDeepin> hi[04:22:13] <manjaroDeepin> i am new[04:22:29] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:22:41] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@119.30.39.237> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:23:54] <PipeItToDevNull> Hi[04:24:04] <PipeItToDevNull> I am just a lurker that keeps this open in the background[04:24:22] *** Hexxium <Hexxium!49d5cbe0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.213.203.224> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[04:26:23] <tmsbrdrs__> trying to use kore or yatse remote control for kodi on any Arch based system. both work when using Ubuntu and all settings are the same but for some reason I can't use either to remote control my kodi instance. I've removed ufw but not sure if I've disabled the firewall. I've double checked that all services are enabled as well as double checked my passwords are correct. currently receiving "couldn't connect to kodi/xbmc pleas[04:26:25] <tmsbrdrs__> e check the connection" on kore and "unable to connect: check your firewall configuration, that your wifi router is not in isolation mode or change the port inside Kodi" on Yatse[04:26:27] <tmsbrdrs__> sorry about the wall of text there[04:27:11] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[04:32:26] <BugzBunny> I am jaming to musi[04:33:31] <BugzBunny> I was lowering pririty on processes I don't need[04:33:33] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[04:33:43] <BugzBunny> Throw away processces[04:34:03] <BugzBunny> But my Eight Core process[04:34:03] *** Bito <Bito!~pablo@187.59.8.70> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:34:13] <BugzBunny> No difference in UI[04:34:22] <BugzBunny> I mean[04:34:31] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[04:34:33] <BugzBunny> LXQT[04:34:46] <BugzBunny> It doesn't change in performane[04:34:50] <BugzBunny> At a ll[04:35:04] <BugzBunny> I can lower processes[04:35:10] <BugzBunny> I don't need[04:35:23] <BugzBunny> It's stable[04:36:01] <BugzBunny> Resuming in non X mode: xdpyinfo not found. For package install advice run: inxi --recommends[04:36:02] <BugzBunny> CPU~Quad core AMD FX-8320E Eight-Core (-HT-MCP-) speed/max~1400/3200 MHz Kernel~4.8.13-1-ARCH x86_64 Up~2:38 Mem~981.3/7885.3MB HDD~1128.0GB(59.9% used) Procs~194 Client~HexChat 2.12.4 inxi~2.3.8[04:36:56] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-075-001-121.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[04:38:42] *** Winter_ <Winter_!474f3153@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.79.49.83> has joined #manjaro[04:39:10] <Winter_> Just installed latest version of Manjaro.[04:39:38] <Winter_> Installed it fine but whenever I log in I get a Radeon ring stall error.[04:41:53] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[04:42:37] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@101.103.175.58> has joined #manjaro[04:43:47] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@101.103.175.58> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:44:29] *** hbx <hbx!~hbx@199.193.153.19> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[04:44:29] <BugzBunny> I am jaming to Spotify[04:47:34] *** hbx <hbx!498a9687@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.138.150.135> has joined #manjaro[04:49:06] *** Acegi <Acegi!~Acegi@unaffiliated/aquilai> has joined #manjaro[04:49:41] *** tmsbrdrs__ <tmsbrdrs__!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:49:49] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ip-90-186-2-109.web.vodafone.de> has joined #manjaro[04:49:59] *** Isaac <Isaac!~vcore@176.123.3.250> has quit IRC (Quit: read error)[04:50:26] <Acegi> Hi, I'm having some trouble with Manjaro as virtualbox guest. I recently updated after not having updated it in a month or so.[04:51:02] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[04:51:14] <Acegi> lightdm no longer starts up at boot. I'm using 4.4.41-1-MANJARO.[04:51:44] *** bewgiepc <bewgiepc!42414836@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.65.72.54> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:52:14] <Acegi> When I try "startx" I get xinit giving up and unable to connecto X server: Connection refused[04:53:29] *** Winter_ <Winter_!474f3153@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.79.49.83> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[04:53:48] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: gn.)[04:54:41] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has joined #manjaro[04:54:59] <Acegi> Xorg.0.log tells me "vboxvideo" (module does not exist, 0) but lsmod | grep vbox shows that vboxvideo is there.[04:57:00] *** BugzBunny <BugzBunny!~champ@2604:880:a:7::f9c> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[04:58:17] <Acegi> Does anyone have any ideas on how to fix this?[05:00:41] <PipeItToDevNull> Acegi: Try reinstalling the guest additions[05:01:38] <Acegi> I've tried reinstalling by mounting the iso and by updating the kernel headers up to linux44 (I was using linux42 before) but no luck.[05:01:59] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pveuwxtglfkzsizg> has joined #manjaro[05:02:02] <tefter> remove xorg.conf[05:02:18] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:02:50] <Acegi> Manjaro uses mhwd right? The closest to xorg.conf I know of is /etc/X11/mhwd.d/virtualbox.conf[05:03:04] <tefter> remove it[05:03:23] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[05:04:32] <Acegi> Huh. I guess I should have tried that earlier. Thanks tefter![05:05:05] *** Fooguo_ <Fooguo_!~Fooguo@97-113-154-207.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[05:05:10] <Acegi> I didn't remember changing that file because I think mhwd sets that up by itself so I didn't think I needed to do anything to it.[05:08:41] *** Fooguo <Fooguo!~Fooguo@97-113-89-73.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[05:08:59] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[05:10:55] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[05:11:45] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[05:13:33] <Celmor> rhg135, using keepass-i3 now, still have the problem that I can only paste copied passwords into 'normal' GUI applications but not in my terminal emulator, would have to paste it in i.e. firefox, copy it and then paste it into the terminal[05:16:30] <rhg135> Strange, I've never seen that myself what terminal emulator?[05:16:46] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[05:17:43] <Celmor> gnome-terminal[05:18:04] *** Acegi <Acegi!~Acegi@unaffiliated/aquilai> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[05:20:16] <Celmor> pasting from keepass into xterm seems to work fine if I set "selection to clipboard" (as it seems to paste primary buffer instead of cut buffer then)[05:22:39] <Celmor> konsole also works fine[05:22:53] <Celmor> terminix not[05:30:06] *** BugzBunny <BugzBunny!~champ@2604:880:a:7::f9c> has joined #manjaro[05:33:29] *** thid <thid!~thid@188.121.19.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[05:37:39] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[05:38:29] *** Broel <Broel!~aebroelac@139.193.1.21> has joined #manjaro[05:38:46] <Broel> Hello...[05:38:51] *** infinital <infinital!uid144856@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tzoubpfhudtautbq> has joined #manjaro[05:38:59] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ip-90-186-2-109.web.vodafone.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[05:39:51] *** Broel <Broel!~aebroelac@139.193.1.21> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[05:44:05] <Celmor> hi[05:44:50] *** Konata_ <Konata_!~izumi@104.238.169.108> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[05:49:41] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[05:52:37] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-188-106-172-045.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[05:54:35] *** Aria <Aria!~quassel@155-149-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl> has joined #manjaro[05:55:00] *** Aria is now known as Guest79378[05:55:02] <bewgie> well, i figured out a neat and simple way to fix budgie[05:55:18] <bewgie> im going to edit profile.conf[05:55:22] <bewgie> in the iso[05:55:23] *** Guest79378 <Guest79378!~quassel@155-149-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[05:55:35] <bewgie> and just re install[05:55:35] <bewgie> simple[05:55:36] <bewgie> neat[05:56:20] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@2602:306:c577:2310:b7e5:3d49:e481:b0e4> has joined #manjaro[05:56:20] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@2602:306:c577:2310:b7e5:3d49:e481:b0e4> has quit IRC (Changing host)[05:56:20] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has joined #manjaro[05:57:20] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[05:57:39] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[06:06:38] <Celmor> for some reason konsole now uses a font with varia ble width per character, like an 'l' takes less space and that messes up cursoer to character mapping[06:07:20] *** nuuuciano_ <nuuuciano_!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:07:53] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[06:13:01] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has joined #manjaro[06:14:15] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-188-106-172-045.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:14:44] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[06:20:23] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@117.254.77.145> has joined #manjaro[06:21:04] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[06:35:01] *** manjaro-web|9652 <manjaro-web|9652!4b9119e4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.145.25.228> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[06:35:35] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[06:36:22] *** hedgie <hedgie!~hedgie@2602:306:3144:1e10:652d:b973:841:f5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[06:37:00] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-186-75.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[06:44:41] <physkets> akonadi crashes a lot; almost every login. Anyone else with the same problem?[06:46:37] *** hbx <hbx!498a9687@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.138.150.135> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[06:56:29] *** Stuzz <Stuzz!~Stuzz@CPE-60-231-67-122.lns2.cha.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Vote Ziltoid!)[06:56:39] *** muhammet_ <muhammet_!~muhammetd@213.14.154.77> has joined #manjaro[06:57:47] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[06:59:53] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[07:01:15] <Vlado9A> hello world[07:03:56] *** Baloc <Baloc!~Manjarous@172.56.35.244> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:04:02] *** nahtnam <nahtnam!uid22411@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qcnlvazjiawnxfyt> has joined #manjaro[07:06:46] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[07:08:03] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[07:14:20] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[07:14:30] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[07:14:49] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC ()[07:16:35] *** majac777 <majac777!61684924@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.97.104.73.36> has joined #manjaro[07:19:03] <majac777> i just installed Manjaro (latest version) into a VBox. Problem is that I can't seem to be able to install the VBoxGuestAdditions.iso. 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<mchasard!~mchasard@glg95-h03-89-81-23-36.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[08:11:42] *** mchasard <mchasard!~mchasard@glg95-h03-89-81-23-36.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:12:01] *** bewgie <bewgie!~manjaro-b@172.56.35.222> has joined #manjaro[08:17:57] *** F3n|x <F3n|x!IRC@UnionLatina.TK> has joined #manjaro[08:18:28] *** muhammet_ <muhammet_!~muhammetd@213.14.154.77> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[08:19:46] <bewgie> so i was wondering[08:19:55] <bewgie> im in the live cd of manjaro budgie[08:20:12] <bewgie> about to run calamares to install it to hd[08:20:21] *** bobfosssil_ <bobfosssil_!~omega@167.211.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:20:34] <bewgie> can i make it so calamares installs the free drivers instead of non free[08:20:46] <bewgie> because it installs non free by default[08:20:55] <bewgie> and that doesnt work with my system[08:22:32] <bewgie> it breaks it before its hatched infact[08:23:20] 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joined #manjaro[09:17:05] *** bewgie <bewgie!~manjaro-b@172.56.35.222> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[09:18:30] <bewgiest> optics yes only at boot[09:18:43] <bewgiest> not for install though[09:18:59] <optics> select free at boot[09:19:12] <optics> then it is set for calamares[09:19:14] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAE44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:19:19] <bewgiest> calamares installs non free even when booted in free mode[09:19:29] <optics> oh[09:19:45] <bewgiest> yah ive been reading up too[09:19:56] <bewgiest> its a horrible issue[09:20:03] <optics> nasty[09:20:18] <bewgiest> not sure what to do now[09:20:38] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:22:34] <optics> what if you select non-free[09:23:03] <bewgiest> i get a white screen at boot[09:23:25] <bewgiest> i can see the mouse cursor only[09:24:06] <bewgiest> and when i ctrl alt f2 i get a black screen, no terminal[09:25:09] <bewgiest> i really want budgie[09:25:15] <optics> yeah[09:25:20] <bewgiest> it may not be meant tobe[09:25:26] <optics> thinking netinstall then install budgie[09:25:31] <rhg135> Just install the free manually[09:25:36] <mchasard> hi[09:26:11] <mchasard> image iso 32bits would be stopped to get out shortly ?[09:26:24] <mchasard> i readed it[09:26:33] <mchasard> is that right ?[09:26:41] <bewgiest> how rhg135[09:26:55] <bewgiest> when i try it still wont boot[09:27:12] <rhg135> Didn't you do so earlier?[09:27:22] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAE44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:27:45] <rhg135> Boot to single user[09:28:01] <rhg135> Or chroot[09:28:33] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@bop179.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[09:28:44] <bewgiest> i did mount /dev/sda6 /mnt[09:28:57] <bewgiest> manjaro-chroot /mnt[09:29:07] <bewgiest> removed catalyst[09:29:22] <mike-zal> if someone knows how to edit plasma theme, please check out this thread, I want to update my theme: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/how-to-modify-plasma-desktoptheme-for-showing-minimized-programs/16576[09:29:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/52yorK] How to modify plasma desktoptheme for showing minimized programs - Artwork - Manjaro[09:29:31] <bewgiest> mhwd -a pci free 0300[09:31:12] <rhg135> Hmm, that's how I switch between the two[09:33:04] <bewgiest> earlier my error was iwasnt using manjaro-chroot[09:33:09] <rhg135> I also use amdgpu sometimes to test things, but that's not in mhwd for my gpu[09:33:47] <bewgiest> my card is too old for amdgpu[09:34:17] <bewgiest> i think the problem is catalyst doesnt work with gnome[09:34:31] <bewgiest> budgie runs gnome right?[09:34:34] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[09:34:51] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-syszzlbtjctgwfyr> has joined #manjaro[09:35:16] <rhg135> It does[09:35:17] <day|flip> it used it gnome-shell[09:35:25] <rhg135> X is X[09:35:26] <bewgiest> im close to ditching budgie and just using lxqt[09:36:16] <day|flip> for me. I don't feel like messing with compton just to have less screen tearing[09:36:18] <bewgiest> when i switch from catalyst to video ati it removes xorg and puts xserver[09:37:12] <bewgiest> im not sure if that is whats causing this[09:37:18] <rhg135> Oh wait![09:37:28] <rhg135> I remember now[09:37:36] *** nahtnam <nahtnam!uid22411@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qcnlvazjiawnxfyt> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[09:38:23] <rhg135> You have to install xorg-server when removing catalyst-server[09:40:14] *** Guest37103 <Guest37103!IRC@UnionLatina.TK> has quit IRC (Quit: My damn controlling terminal disappeared!)[09:42:28] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[09:42:50] <bewgiest> i did[09:43:17] <bewgiest> still no dice[09:43:29] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[09:43:39] <rhg135> Manually, via pacman?[09:43:50] <bewgiest> yes[09:44:22] <rhg135> Hmm[09:44:35] <bewgiest> do i need to edit a conf[09:44:43] *** mchasard <mchasard!~mchasard@glg95-h03-89-81-23-36.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:44:43] <bewgiest> somewhere[09:45:21] <rhg135> Run mhwd-gpu to set the gl maybe[09:45:49] <rhg135> You should not need to[09:47:19] <bewgiest> also when i remove catalyst and install video-ati and then run pacman Suy it says catalyst is conflicting with video-ati[09:47:32] <bewgiest> and wont continue updating[09:49:28] <bewgiest> hmmm[09:49:33] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAE44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:49:35] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[09:49:43] <rhg135> You have to remove the catalyst[09:49:57] <bewgiest> i did[09:50:05] <rhg135> Can't have both at once[09:50:19] <rhg135> Not according to that[09:50:23] <bewgiest> hmm[09:50:45] <bewgiest> how do i completely rm it[09:51:30] *** bewgiepc <bewgiepc!~manjaro-b@172.56.35.222> has joined #manjaro[09:51:32] <rhg135> pacman -Rdd catalyst[09:52:01] <bewgiepc> ill show you what i have been following[09:52:18] <bewgiepc> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/cant-switch-from-catalyst-to-free-driver/12595/2[09:52:19] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/t498Dj] Can't switch from Catalyst to free driver - Drivers - Manjaro[09:52:19] <rhg135> It will crash X trying to load it[09:53:52] <bewgiepc> uninstall everything that is related to catalyst[09:53:52] <bewgiepc> catalyst-input catalyst-server catalyst-utils catalyst-video lib32-catalyst-utils lib32-opencl-catalyst linux???-catalyst[09:53:52] <bewgiepc> after this, you need to install the actual xserver[09:53:52] <bewgiepc> pacman -S xorg-server>1.18 xf86-input-libinput[09:53:52] <bewgiepc> and NOW you can start manjaro settings manager and install video-ati, amdgpu.[09:54:12] <bewgiepc> i tried this it didnt work[09:54:33] <peetaur> "it didn't work" is not specific enough to fix[09:54:58] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@dslb-088-073-113-033.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[09:56:08] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@dslb-088-073-113-033.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:56:27] <rhg135> Make sure to remove the catalyst from the mhwd too[09:56:34] <bewgiepc> ah[09:56:55] <bewgiepc> the mhwd driver config yes?[09:56:57] <rhg135> Or set mesa as gl[09:57:01] <rhg135> Yes[09:57:12] <bewgiepc> ok let me figure out how to do that[09:57:30] <bewgiepc> at the moment i am chrooted into the hd install through the live cd[09:57:54] <bewgiepc> so i should edit the mhwd in both the livcd and the chroot rite?[09:58:41] <bewgiepc> hmmm i dont know what i am doing exactly, do i delete things from this file?: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/manjaro/mhwd-db/master/pci/graphic_drivers/catalyst/MHWDCONFIG[09:58:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/UjaZn0] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)[09:59:05] *** infinital <infinital!uid144856@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tzoubpfhudtautbq> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[10:00:59] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@c-73-221-22-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:01:12] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[10:01:32] <bewgiepc> how do i set mesa as gl[10:02:20] <rhg135> mhwd-gpu[10:02:23] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[10:03:04] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has joined #manjaro[10:03:07] <rhg135> sudo mhwd-gpu - - setgl mesa[10:03:29] <ShayBox> Anyone had experience in vert manager/qemu/kvm? I want to mount my home folder as a D drive in the windows VM[10:05:47] <bewgiepc> do i delete catalyst.ids from var/lib/mhwd/pci[10:06:04] <rhg135> Nope[10:06:12] <bewgiepc> oh?[10:06:45] <rhg135> You can remove profiles from mhwd too[10:07:22] <bewgiepc> i need to?[10:07:28] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:08:02] <bewgiepc> how do i remove catalyst from mhwd[10:08:20] <rhg135> The catalyst one needs to go[10:09:16] <rhg135> sudo mhwd -r pci video-catalyst[10:09:21] <rhg135> Iirc[10:13:50] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[10:16:05] <bewgiepc> rhg35 when i try to remove video-catalyst it says it is removed[10:16:18] <bewgiepc> but when i do mhwd -l it is first on the list[10:16:38] <ShayBox> it stays on the list, but its not installed[10:16:47] <rhg135> First doesn't matter[10:17:03] <rhg135> It's first for me too[10:17:44] <bewgiepc> warning: could not find '/usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.xorg'![10:17:44] <bewgiepc> xorg configuration file: '/etc/X11/mhwd.d/ati.conf'[10:17:44] <bewgiepc> > Successfully installed video-ati[10:17:44] <bewgiepc> sh-4.3#[10:19:42] <bewgiepc> rhg135 i get tbat could not find libglx.xorg error when i set mesa as gl as well[10:20:25] <rhg135> Is xorg-server and mesa installed?[10:20:52] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[10:21:02] <bewgiepc> i just installed xorg-server[10:21:09] <bewgiepc> mesa is up to date[10:21:31] <bewgiepc> ok i ran the set mesa as gl command again[10:21:34] <rhg135> Hmm[10:21:35] <bewgiepc> no error this time[10:21:42] <rhg135> Yay[10:21:54] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[10:21:54] <rhg135> Now boot![10:22:01] <bewgiepc> KAY :d[10:22:08] <bewgiepc> thanks[10:22:12] *** bewgiepc <bewgiepc!~manjaro-b@172.56.35.222> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:24:54] *** bewgiebro <bewgiebro!~manjaro-b@cpe-66-65-72-54.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[10:24:59] <bewgiebro> SUCCESS[10:25:10] <bewgiebro> you the MAN!!![10:25:29] <bewgiebro> rhg135 is THE MAN[10:25:38] <bewgiebro> i owe you a beer[10:25:50] <bewgiebro> and a wench[10:26:07] <bewgiebro> its almost surreal[10:26:33] <bewgiebro> ok now for this kernel update[10:26:43] <bewgiebro> i am going to put kernel 4.9[10:26:51] <rhg135> So it did work cool[10:26:52] <bewgiebro> should i use the real time one?[10:27:15] <bewgiebro> yeah that finally worked after going at it for literally the whole day][10:28:40] <bewgiebro> so rhg135 should i use the real time kernel?[10:29:06] <rhg135> Do you do audio work?[10:29:17] <bewgiebro> Yes[10:29:21] <bewgiebro> i record[10:29:22] <rhg135> If so, yes[10:29:26] <bewgiebro> ok[10:29:47] <rhg135> Cool, fellow musician[10:29:53] <bewgiebro> i play flute[10:30:02] <bewgiebro> and guitar[10:30:18] <rhg135> Piano, it's fun[10:30:28] <bewgiebro> nice we should collab[10:30:36] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3F73B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[10:30:36] <bewgiebro> stewartsarts at gmail dot com[10:30:58] <bewgiebro> oh man i need food brb[10:31:25] <rhg135> Eh, I'm still learning to play it[10:31:59] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[10:36:35] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3F73B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:40:33] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[10:42:45] *** Strit <Strit!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:43:14] *** Techknight <Techknight!~techknigh@0x52b41c76.static.bcbnet.dk> has joined #manjaro[10:44:00] <Techknight> Hi guys. When booting my system I can see multiple lines for a sec, and then they are gone. Where are they stored after boot? I can see there was some errors[10:44:08] <bewgiebro> so is there a certain thing i must do to invoke the 4.9 kernel rhg135 ?[10:44:15] <bewgiebro> or is installing it enough[10:45:34] <rhg135> If you're not doing something funky just installing should be enough, bewgiebro[10:46:03] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:46:31] <bewgiebro> only funny thing is i was naked during this entire installation lol[10:46:51] <rhg135> Funky like not using grub or mounting /boot[10:47:07] <bewgiebro> im using grub[10:47:21] <bewgiebro> do i need to tell grub i installed a new kernel?[10:47:27] <Techknight> Nope[10:47:35] <bewgiebro> dope[10:47:39] <rhg135> Then it should update it when you install[10:48:05] <rhg135> Has a hook for it iirc[10:48:15] <bewgiebro> as for my video card driver, am i going to be ok with the ati driver?[10:48:49] <Techknight> You could try it out ;) or downgrade afterwards. But I think you should be okay[10:49:03] *** Strit <Strit!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[10:49:03] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit[10:49:06] *** Strit <Strit!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:49:22] <Techknight> But guys did you know where boot messages are stored[10:50:09] <bewgiebro> i have no clue i think what i learned today is i know very little about linux[10:50:26] <bewgiebro> brb gonna reboot and see if it breaks lol[10:50:30] *** bewgiebro <bewgiebro!~manjaro-b@cpe-66-65-72-54.nyc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:50:31] *** aries__ <aries__!~manjaro@27.186.13.13> has joined #manjaro[10:51:28] *** Strit <Strit!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[10:51:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit[10:51:53] *** bewgiebro <bewgiebro!~manjaro-b@cpe-66-65-72-54.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[10:52:00] <bewgiebro> ok not good[10:52:05] <rhg135> They work great on some cards, much better than catalyst imo[10:52:08] <bewgiebro> windows 10 is missing from the grub menu lol[10:52:23] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3F73B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[10:52:23] <rhg135> Hmm[10:52:33] <bewgiebro> i didnt remove it[10:52:45] <aries__> Hello. I cannot boot my Manjaro Linux because of "failed to load Kernel modules". When I tried use ISO image to chroot to system and "systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service" it said "Running in chroot, ignoring request." I also tried to install another kernel and it doesn't work.[10:52:57] <rhg135> Install os-prober and update grub[10:53:06] <aries__> rhg135, already done that.[10:53:28] <rhg135> bewgiebro I mean[10:53:36] <aries__> :-( sorry.[10:53:44] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[10:54:16] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pveuwxtglfkzsizg> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[10:54:17] <rhg135> journalctl instead[10:54:31] <rhg135> Check out the manual page[10:54:45] <rhg135> I don't know how to use it[10:54:51] <bewgiebro> ok[10:55:02] <aries__> rhg135, I will check that. Thanks.[10:55:13] <bewgiebro> hmm[10:55:22] <bewgiebro> i typed update grub[10:55:31] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[10:55:31] <bewgiebro> it says command not found[10:55:46] <aries__> no space.[10:55:57] <rhg135> bewgiebro: you need to run sudo update-grub[10:56:22] <rhg135> And you might need to mount windows[10:56:26] <aries__> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Restore_the_GRUB_Bootloader[10:56:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EzpPEI] Restore the GRUB Bootloader - Manjaro Linux[10:56:43] <bewgiebro> it seems to of found windows[10:56:46] <aries__> this is about grub rescue. hope it helps. :P[10:56:57] <rhg135> Ash great[10:57:05] <rhg135> Ah*[10:58:37] <bewgiebro> budgie isnt as snappy as i thought it would be :([10:58:57] <bewgiebro> but after all it took to get it on im not going to be arsed to replace it lol[10:59:21] <bewgiebro> now im just going to install kodi on it and then step away from it for a bit[10:59:47] <rhg135> Well, now you're much better with manjaro[10:59:48] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:59:56] <bewgiebro> yes much[11:00:11] <rhg135> Straight Linux isn't that much harder[11:00:32] <rhg135> Just tedious, hence why I use manjaro[11:00:38] <bewgiebro> i was going to put debian on here but i like how budgie looks[11:00:58] *** Techknight <Techknight!~techknigh@0x52b41c76.static.bcbnet.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:01:16] <rhg135> Manjaro is a nice user facing distro[11:01:26] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[11:01:43] <rhg135> Recent versions and snappy[11:01:53] <mike-zal> bewgiebro: sudo update-grub[11:02:16] <bewgiebro> sorted mike ;)[11:03:36] <bewgiebro> hmm i installed vlc but cant see it when i try to launch it[11:03:42] *** bobfosssil_ <bobfosssil_!~omega@167.211.252.27.dyn.cust.vf.net.nz> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:05:12] <rhg135> That seems like a de issue, does it work from a terminal?[11:05:57] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[11:06:03] *** space_otter <space_otter!~space_ott@2602:306:32e8:cf60:a284:ed24:cb0f:59> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:06:11] <bewgiebro> it seems to be command line[11:06:15] <bewgiebro> like no gui[11:07:09] *** bewgiebro <bewgiebro!~manjaro-b@cpe-66-65-72-54.nyc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:07:50] *** bewgiebro <bewgiebro!~manjaro-b@cpe-66-65-72-54.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[11:08:12] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@59.174.225.86> has joined #manjaro[11:08:27] <manjaro-kde5-> test[11:08:43] <rhg135> Hmm[11:08:45] <aries__> rhg135, The reason that I can not boot maybe because some failures like "Failed to find module 'vboxguest'"[11:09:08] <aries__> I am running Manjaro in VirtualBox.[11:09:08] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@59.174.225.86> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:10:04] <rhg135> That shouldn't be fatal, aries__ but you can install the module from the repos[11:10:47] <rhg135> Search for virtualbox in the repos[11:11:06] <aries__> I will have a try.[11:12:01] *** taarnet <taarnet!~taarnet@cm-84.211.206.95.getinternet.no> has joined #manjaro[11:12:10] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:12:30] <bewgiebro> well, upon trying to run a video stream which runs fine in windows with no frameskip here in manjaro, i see the video driver sucks lol[11:12:50] <bewgiebro> i am going to have to try a different driver[11:13:00] <bewgiebro> sucks[11:13:26] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[11:13:29] *** taarnet <taarnet!~taarnet@cm-84.211.206.95.getinternet.no> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:15:55] <rhg135> In the web browser, none of the usual ones have acceleration on Linux[11:16:13] <bewgiebro> this is in the video player[11:16:27] <rhg135> Plus I don't think mhwd installs support for it on ati[11:16:37] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@178.120.138.144> has joined #manjaro[11:17:04] <rhg135> I can't recall which packages you need for it though[11:17:13] <rhg135> !aw ati[11:17:13] <Botergos> ATI - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ATI[11:17:49] <Jeannie> Don' try to install graphics drivers in manjaro the arch way[11:18:15] <aries__> rhg135, if that's not fatal. How to find the reason the system can not boot?[11:19:32] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-186-75.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:19:55] <rhg135> bewgiebro: install libva-mesa-driver and mesa-vdpau[11:20:23] *** aries_liuxueyang <aries_liuxueyang!~xyl@27.186.13.13> has joined #manjaro[11:20:29] <rhg135> Jeannie: this isn't for GPU drivers just video acceleration[11:20:54] *** aries__ <aries__!~manjaro@27.186.13.13> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:20:55] <rhg135> aries__: check the full journal[11:21:07] <rhg135> Timing[11:21:30] <aries_liuxueyang> rhg135: ok.[11:21:43] <mike-zal> radeon always sucks and causes troubles. nvidia is not without issues but it's less problematic[11:21:44] <bewgiebro> ok installed[11:22:09] <rhg135> Now restart vlc[11:22:30] <rhg135> But it could still suck[11:22:41] <rhg135> Graphics in[11:22:58] <mike-zal> so for me all works well, no screen tearing on plasma, although on other DEs I must tweak them to get rid of screen tearing so it also happens on nvidia, but it's easy solvable (usually, not always)[11:23:08] <rhg135> In Linux, graphics suck in general atm[11:23:25] <rhg135> Either bad drivers or bad stack[11:23:43] <mike-zal> depends on hardware.[11:23:59] <mike-zal> if everything is linux compatible, there are no issues[11:24:09] <rhg135> Lol no[11:24:18] <rhg135> I wish[11:24:19] <mike-zal> laptops usually do have issues thou...[11:24:25] <bewgiebro> hmm is plasma better?[11:24:28] *** Techknight <Techknight!~techknigh@0x52b41c76.static.bcbnet.dk> has joined #manjaro[11:24:33] <bewgiebro> i know chakra uses plasma[11:24:49] <rhg135> I like it myself but idk if better for you[11:24:52] <bewgiebro> omg my girls armpits stink[11:24:54] <mike-zal> bewgiebro: plasma is awesome, but needs an ssd and at least average computer[11:25:03] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:25:06] <bewgiebro> i have an ssd[11:25:15] <rhg135> Ssd is a must[11:25:37] <rhg135> Otherwise that boot time[11:25:41] <bewgiebro> this computer came with a 300gb ssd and 4gb ram[11:25:45] <mike-zal> then you can try kde edition if the one you are looking right now is now working well[11:25:55] <rhg135> That's fine then[11:26:10] <bewgiebro> yes this one already costed me a whole day[11:26:21] <mike-zal> bewgiebro: 4GB will work then but don't expect plasma to be snappy. 8GB is recommended.[11:26:25] <aries_liuxueyang> rhg135: Thank you so much! problem solved.[11:26:37] <rhg135> Nah[11:26:38] <bewgiebro> hmmm[11:26:47] <Jeannie> Why is a ssd a must?[11:26:53] <rhg135> Mine hardly runs over 1.5[11:27:04] <mike-zal> plasma somehow uses more drive bandwith[11:27:10] <mike-zal> this causes delays on hdd[11:27:17] <rhg135> It does a lot of random io[11:27:36] <mike-zal> with all its settings and complexity, plasma sends more data.[11:27:39] <Jeannie> My plasma5 works fine on a hdd[11:28:06] <rhg135> I mean I use it on two boxes one with an hdd[11:28:06] <mike-zal> sure, it will work on hdd, especially on PC 7200 hdd[11:28:16] <rhg135> I say must loosely[11:28:48] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has joined #manjaro[11:28:50] <Jeannie> Must implicates the absolute necessity to do it that way.[11:28:52] <mike-zal> but still, plasma behaves a lot better on ssd (like everything else)[11:29:02] <rhg135> I really feel in love with it[11:29:04] <bewgiebro> i restarded vlc and it still runs awful[11:29:15] <bewgiebro> it ran better on xubuntu[11:29:16] <mike-zal> bewgiebro: try SM player[11:29:22] <Jeannie> I tried ssds last year when I moved to plasma[11:29:29] <bewgiebro> i tried mpv[11:29:31] <Jeannie> Sold them after a short while[11:29:36] <rhg135> I use mpv[11:29:42] <mike-zal> bewgiebro: vlc runs horribly on me new, fast computer, don't know why, it run fine on old laptop...[11:30:02] <bewgiebro> if mpv doesnt work i dont know what will[11:30:23] <rhg135> Btrfs root and home on another HDD that uses the ssd for cache[11:30:32] <mike-zal> Jeannie: you are probably the only person on the world that was not happy of changing hdd onto ssd then ;)[11:30:34] <rhg135> Seems fine[11:30:41] <bewgiebro> ill try kodi now[11:30:55] <rhg135> MPV is great[11:31:06] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@cpc99434-lich12-2-0-cust1950.3-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[11:31:32] <mike-zal> bewgiebro: anyway, the same system - manjaro kde and vlc works well on old computer and awful and new one. so it's not a matter of manjaro.[11:31:33] <Jeannie> Probably I am , yes. Tried two Samsungs, 850 Pro and 850 Evo. Had nabsolutey o noticeable speed or performance improvements[11:32:13] <mike-zal> that's first I hear something like that[11:32:19] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@178.120.138.144> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:32:39] <mike-zal> Jeannie: are you really sure your hdd is not a disguised ssd ;P?[11:32:45] <rhg135> Is your mobo from this decade?[11:32:57] <rhg135> Or that ;)[11:33:22] <Jeannie> It looks like a hdd, it is labelled Seagate Momentum 750 GB[11:33:26] <bewgiebro> ok kodi is toast[11:33:59] <bewgiebro> this system is from 2011[11:34:10] <mike-zal> hm? toast as, it doesn't work?[11:34:11] <bewgiebro> its an amd c60 processor[11:34:23] <bewgiebro> well it barely runs[11:34:23] <rhg135> I mean to Jeannie lol[11:34:39] <rhg135> The streams are crossing![11:35:05] <Jeannie> Never cross the streams![11:35:18] <mike-zal> bewgiebro: did you try kodi session (without DE)?[11:35:53] <rhg135> MPV can be forced to use vdpau iirc[11:36:25] <rhg135> OpenGL vo should be accelerated though[11:36:50] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@cpc99434-lich12-2-0-cust1950.3-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:37:00] <bewgiebro> hmm[11:37:24] <bewgiebro> opengl vo?[11:37:26] *** Techknight <Techknight!~techknigh@0x52b41c76.static.bcbnet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[11:38:55] *** AlphaReso <AlphaReso!7ab1c579@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.122.177.197.121> has joined #manjaro[11:39:17] <AlphaReso> Hello , does anyone own a Lenovo Y50 here ?[11:40:15] <AlphaReso> I have noticed that the subwoofer doesn't work on Manjaro and i am a complete newbie to Linux , it will be great if someone would help me .[11:40:57] <rhg135> The default video output for mpv[11:41:28] <AlphaReso> huh ?[11:41:44] *** yabbes_ <yabbes_!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[11:41:57] <rhg135> I think I should tag all my messages...[11:43:05] <day|flip> AlphaReso: it a on going talk about what it seem amd. then mpv talk to mix with[11:43:27] <bewgiebro> ok this is terrible[11:43:34] <AlphaReso> oh ok[11:43:37] <bewgiebro> ill just have to ditch budgie[11:43:46] <bewgiebro> :([11:44:00] <bewgiebro> it was;;; cute[11:44:19] *** aries_liuxueyang <aries_liuxueyang!~xyl@27.186.13.13> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:44:23] <bewgiebro> sigh....[11:44:24] <rhg135> You know I've never used budgie[11:44:30] <bewgiebro> lol[11:44:41] <bewgiebro> which one do you use[11:45:00] <day|flip> really issue is figure out how to mix the right xorg conf. then figure out the right compton config(witch is ok but suck on terminals)[11:45:01] <rhg135> Plasma ATM previously i3[11:45:17] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[11:45:25] <bewgiebro> can you point me to the iso you used[11:45:38] <rhg135> I didn't use one[11:45:40] <bewgiebro> yes i came from i3 aswell[11:45:48] <bewgiebro> ah[11:45:59] <rhg135> I just pacstrapped[11:46:07] <bewgiebro> whats that[11:46:31] <rhg135> A way to install from an existing Linux[11:46:35] <day|flip> AlphaReso: your laptop should be ok. just not sure if it have hybrid gpu[11:46:57] <AlphaReso> yes it has hybrid gpu[11:47:11] <bewgiebro> ok ill be back[11:47:20] *** bewgiebro <bewgiebro!~manjaro-b@cpe-66-65-72-54.nyc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:47:21] <day|flip> AlphaReso: if it a touchscreen. you may want to look at gnome for your main DE[11:47:24] *** yabbes_ <yabbes_!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:47:29] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[11:47:37] <AlphaReso> no it doesn't have touchscreen[11:48:29] <AlphaReso> the only thing that isn't working is the subwoofer[11:48:40] <day|flip> it hard to say about the hybrid gpu. i seen people had no issue to it being a nightmare to work with. here on the irc[11:49:28] <b0n> hybrid? like bumblebee?[11:49:33] <day|flip> ya[11:49:50] <b0n> when i had it running on my desktop i had to use the builtin graphics card[11:50:15] <AlphaReso> so where should i look for a solution to the subwoofer problem ?[11:50:38] <day|flip> arch base distro used bumblebee anyway. does not mater witch. they all used bumblebee for it support. i don't have any hybrid gpu. so i can't say for myself[11:50:51] *** majac777 <majac777!61684924@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.97.104.73.36> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[11:53:23] *** majac777 <majac777!61684924@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.97.104.73.36> has joined #manjaro[11:54:45] *** Isaac <Isaac!~vcore@176.123.3.250> has joined #manjaro[11:56:10] *** majac777 <majac777!61684924@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.97.104.73.36> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:57:53] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[12:00:55] *** AlphaReso <AlphaReso!7ab1c579@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.122.177.197.121> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[12:04:28] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[12:05:23] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-186-75.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[12:07:13] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ip-147.net-89-2-35.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:11:24] *** majac777 <majac777!61684924@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.97.104.73.36> has joined #manjaro[12:11:51] *** majac777 <majac777!61684924@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.97.104.73.36> has left #manjaro[12:14:19] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:15:17] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[12:22:14] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[12:23:44] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[12:24:10] *** TimPlaz <TimPlaz!43f8a944@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.248.169.68> has joined #manjaro[12:24:42] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[12:25:33] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a01:cb1d:8736:7100:b18b:6c5e:f528:7229> has joined #manjaro[12:25:50] <TimPlaz> newbie here...just installed manjaro kde...getting error on system upgrade...conflicting dependencies.[12:26:44] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[12:26:53] <mike-zal> TimPlaz: if it asks you to repalce, delete something, say Yes[12:27:39] <mike-zal> TimPlaz: however I suspect you installed something from AUR that conflicts with manjaro packages. that's usually the cause.[12:27:54] *** manjaro-web|5715 <manjaro-web|5715!92c68681@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.146.198.134.129> has joined #manjaro[12:30:05] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:32:50] <Strit> recently gstreamer0.10 got put into AUR from repo's. Maybe that's the issue. Hard to know, unless you give is the error from "sudo pacman -Syu"[12:36:59] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #manjaro[12:42:38] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a01:cb1d:8736:7100:b18b:6c5e:f528:7229> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:43:26] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[12:43:57] *** day|flip <day|flip!~days@c-67-190-61-238.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:44:05] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@118.137.20.154> has joined #manjaro[12:44:27] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.202.200.207> has joined #manjaro[12:45:03] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@118.137.20.154> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:45:08] <Satyam2345> manjaro devs..|need help|[12:45:24] <Strit> Satyam2345: no devs here. Just supporters. :)[12:45:34] <Satyam2345> need support..[12:45:50] <Satyam2345> i am on manjaro 16.10 kde stable[12:45:56] <Satyam2345> fresly installed...[12:46:24] <Satyam2345> desktop elements are flickering..(intel integrated graphics)[12:46:46] <Satyam2345> but it stop for sometime if i change any setting in compositor[12:47:07] <Satyam2345> and come again after sometime..[12:48:06] *** leBang <leBang!~annoying@2602:ffc5::ffc5:cd91> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[12:48:47] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye ALL#)[12:49:04] <Strit> Satyam2345: have you updated since the install?[12:49:51] <Satyam2345> no[12:50:00] <Satyam2345> iso downloaded yesterday[12:50:47] <Strit> You still need to update it. The iso is over a month old.[12:51:52] <Satyam2345> would this solve issues..Cause i hate it when updating broke my system[12:52:11] *** m712 <m712!~annoying@2602:ffc5::ffc5:cd91> has joined #manjaro[12:52:21] <Strit> Newer drivers can solve issues like this yes.[12:52:32] <Strit> Updates usually fixes more issues than they create.[12:53:39] <Satyam2345> you know what is weird about this.. Changing "compositor" setting fix it for few minutes..like changing scale meathod to acuurate etc[12:53:53] <Satyam2345> will do update and post later[12:54:20] <Satyam2345> also need to know what will happen to wayland support[12:55:23] <Satyam2345> ^its buggy if consider Kwin_wayland and plasma-wayland-session[12:55:46] <Strit> Wayland in KDE is ot as far as Gnome3's.[12:55:55] <Satyam2345> i Know[12:56:43] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:57:00] <Satyam2345> I need for plasma cause i found it faster ... as i tested it dump core after few minutes[12:57:47] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[12:57:56] <Satyam2345> Strit: Anyway Thanks for helping[12:58:05] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[12:58:28] <Strit> I'm running plasma my self. :)[12:58:47] *** k0mat3 <k0mat3!~manjaro-k@2a00:d780:42a0:3400:6345:c4a8:2e62:5086> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:59:30] <Jeannie> Wayland, almost usable after only 8 years of development[13:01:21] <Strit> Yep[13:01:51] <ringo> almost is not enough :p[13:03:25] <rhg135> X only took 10, but it lasted 20 more somehow[13:04:45] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:05:34] *** TimPlaz <TimPlaz!43f8a944@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.248.169.68> has left #manjaro[13:06:06] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@117.254.77.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[13:07:51] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[13:08:14] *** meta-system <meta-system!~meta-syst@89-92-105-70.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[13:09:17] *** Linux <Linux!~manjaro-k@2a00:d780:42a0:3400:6345:c4a8:2e62:5086> has joined #manjaro[13:10:19] *** mrbinaer <mrbinaer!~mrbinaer@37.120.57.41> has joined #manjaro[13:10:52] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~eddie@mot04304.swm.uni-mannheim.de> has joined #manjaro[13:12:27] <Satyam2345> Strit: Are you running plasma on Wayland[13:12:37] <Satyam2345> in MAnjaro??[13:14:26] *** meta-system <meta-system!~meta-syst@89-92-105-70.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[13:14:50] <Strit> Not on wayland no. As said, it's not there yet[13:15:16] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has joined #manjaro[13:15:57] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[13:16:07] <Satyam2345> I think if it won't work on pc fully..How the Dev of kde made it run (plasma-mobile) on nexus 5[13:16:11] *** manjaro-web|5715 <manjaro-web|5715!92c68681@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.146.198.134.129> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[13:18:10] <rhg135> Because graphics is the one thing androids got right[13:23:10] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has left #manjaro[13:24:04] * Jeannie has no plans to switch her Nvidia GPUS with android graphics chips[13:24:59] <mike-zal> Jeannie: the problem is, technology is developing quicker and quicker so X had a time, wayland is already obsolete before it is released... and no more modern solutions in sight.[13:25:37] <Jeannie> So X wil be around for the next decades. Fine.[13:25:44] <Satyam2345> wayland won't last 5 years[13:25:58] <rhg135> Android was smart and ignored X[13:26:01] <Satyam2345> its rendering is still not perfect[13:26:10] <mike-zal> nvidia already invented things that wayland won't support[13:27:04] <mike-zal> again, windows comes on top, linux is behind, being forward at so many other things...[13:27:06] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAE44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:27:57] <mike-zal> looking forward for vulcan now. this can be interesting development[13:27:59] <ringo> what about software :)[13:28:16] <ringo> how much software get dropped?[13:28:20] <Satyam2345> vulcan is not for linux[13:28:31] <ringo> mather of time[13:28:42] <ringo> Mayby we get MS display server :p[13:28:51] <Satyam2345> its a graphic api for their cards[13:29:05] <Jeannie> There are dozens of vulkan packages in the aur[13:29:07] <mike-zal> that too. I would say, linux has to improve in few areas: 1. graphics 2. sound 3. software 4. overall user friendliness 5. hardware compatibility and drivers[13:29:07] <Satyam2345> no..sorry[13:29:45] <Satyam2345> 4 is done[13:30:10] <mike-zal> vulcan is system agnostic api for games and advanced graphic. sort of next level of opengl[13:30:33] <mike-zal> doom and astroneer are games that already have vulcan[13:30:35] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1E70202F84AB26E62DBD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:30:36] <Satyam2345> ve don't have a professional video editor[13:30:43] <mike-zal> we do have[13:30:57] * Satyam2345 sad on linux community[13:31:13] <Satyam2345> its no compare for adobe[13:31:15] <mike-zal> kdenlive, but it's not so user friendly as commercial solutions - that's usually the issue with free software[13:31:26] * Jeannie wonders why some people use Linux at all[13:31:31] <mike-zal> you can do everything the same as in adobi[13:31:42] <Satyam2345> blender is good in linux[13:31:48] <Satyam2345> maya. too[13:32:17] <mike-zal> there are people who know and worked on adobi and learned kdenlive and said they can do exactly the same things on kdenlive, but it's just not so friendly[13:32:19] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[13:32:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[13:32:33] <Satyam2345> Linux is being used for what its made for[13:32:39] <Satyam2345> Hacking[13:32:54] <Satyam2345> & running Servers..[13:32:54] <ringo> nah[13:32:58] <ringo> hacking?[13:33:06] * ringo not hacking[13:33:13] * Satyam2345 hacking[13:33:15] <ringo> that gives linux a bad name[13:33:17] <mike-zal> I use it successfully on daily desktop.[13:33:26] <mike-zal> linux is great for that[13:33:27] <ringo> i use it as daily driver[13:33:30] * Satyam2345 thinks hacking is for good[13:33:40] <Jeannie> I have been using Linux since 2007 exclusively on Desktop productivity machines,[13:33:42] <ringo> if you dont know windows software, you dont miss them[13:33:48] <ringo> :)[13:34:01] <Satyam2345> and no games..[13:34:07] <ringo> games enough[13:34:09] <ringo> lola[13:34:15] <mike-zal> Satyam2345: vulcan has potential to change that[13:34:26] <Satyam2345> steam helping linux on that[13:34:28] <ringo> all about popularism[13:34:32] <Jeannie> It's Vulkan, not vulcan[13:34:38] <Satyam2345> yes[13:34:46] <ringo> is linux users uses linux only driver the world avarge will rise[13:34:49] <ringo> if*[13:34:56] <ringo> but now is a lot dual[13:34:58] <Satyam2345> still release date are mysteries[13:35:16] <mike-zal> Satyam2345: games for directx10 can be played on wine/playonlinux. with directx11 we have problem. direct12 is a competition for vulcan[13:35:21] <ringo> but linux is just a kernel :p depends which distro do make such development[13:35:38] <mike-zal> Jeannie: it's Linux, not linux ;)[13:35:49] <Satyam2345> ..No oone want to be from scratch in these days[13:35:54] <Jeannie> Actually it's GNU/Linux...[13:36:24] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAE44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:36:25] <mike-zal> who cares? ;P[13:36:29] <Satyam2345> i am too lazy to write that every time[13:36:35] <Jeannie> The problem with vulkan is that you won*t find any packages if you search for vulcan[13:37:01] <mike-zal> the problem with vulcan is, it won't work on bumblebee :([13:37:15] <Strit_Laptop> Jeannie: there are loads of packages with vulkan in the name. :P[13:37:38] <Jeannie> The problem is that vulcan is not even graphics related, mike-cal[13:37:47] <Satyam2345> I am Seeing that google's hidden project ("Fushia"< thats wrong) have better graphic capablities and stable framework[13:38:08] *** manjMate-user <manjMate-user!~manjaro-m@176.216.99.161> has joined #manjaro[13:38:08] <mike-zal> Jeannie: install vulcan-icd-loader. rest of it should be in none-free drivers[13:38:22] <Satyam2345> but no one know for what it will be used^^[13:38:57] <Jeannie> There is no package named vulcan-icd-loader[13:39:12] <mike-zal> Jeannie: people are usining successfully vulcan on doom so it works in linux well[13:39:16] <Jeannie> But maybe you mean the vulkan-icd-loader?[13:39:30] <mike-zal> Jeannie: small typo[13:39:31] *** manjMate-user <manjMate-user!~manjaro-m@176.216.99.161> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:39:39] <Jeannie> Small typo, big effect[13:39:40] * Satyam2345 waiting for AMD to Crush proprietry from market[13:39:53] * Jeannie is waiting for AMD to die[13:40:11] <ringo> waiting for Non-free Sis graphics[13:40:14] <ringo> lol[13:40:19] <mike-zal> Jeannie: your programming can find the correct package so it's ok :)[13:40:45] <Jeannie> Iv you sai so, myke-cal[13:40:54] <Satyam2345> Amd ryzen..My next rig[13:41:08] <Satyam2345> don't know of graphic..[13:41:25] <Satyam2345> need a rom build station[13:42:26] <mike-zal> Jeannie: soon manjaro will have vulkan out of the box :)[13:43:13] <Jeannie> That sounds nice. I don't use vulkan though[13:43:54] <Satyam2345> it will take a year after release to reach here at good price[13:44:26] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[13:44:53] <Satyam2345> any of you own a raspberry[13:44:55] <Jeannie> Maybe the linux kernel will support these new CPUS too a year after the release.[13:45:03] <Strit_Laptop> Satyam2345: I have a couple[13:45:18] <Satyam2345> can couple can work together as server[13:45:47] <negen> ringo, dingo dong[13:46:08] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:46:12] <Satyam2345> if i get 9~10 pi's and connect them as server. Can I Use them in making android rom[13:46:39] <Strit_Laptop> Satyam2345: check out distcc.[13:46:58] <Satyam2345> distcc[13:47:01] <ringo> I am happy linux will support negen !![13:47:01] <Satyam2345> ??[13:47:12] <ringo> negen, is a monsterious engine[13:47:21] <Strit_Laptop> Satyam2345: it's for distruibuting compiles over multiple machines.[13:47:41] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[13:47:43] <ringo> if we didnt had negen , linux was lost[13:47:50] <Satyam2345> that mean it would work..Will do searchon that[13:47:55] *** Linux <Linux!~manjaro-k@2a00:d780:42a0:3400:6345:c4a8:2e62:5086> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:48:07] *** k0mat3 <k0mat3!~manjaro-k@2a00:d780:42a0:3400:6345:c4a8:2e62:5086> has joined #manjaro[13:48:26] <ringo> because negen got icecat and iceweasel as his home pets[13:48:47] <ringo> and wakes them up with his thunderbird[13:48:50] <Satyam2345> lol[13:49:21] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.202.200.207> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:49:26] <ringo> if they dont listen negen drop them in vulcan ![13:49:34] <mike-zal> :D[13:49:52] <ringo> mmm mike-zal negen is speachless :)[13:49:55] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.202.49.28> has joined #manjaro[13:50:24] <negen> well you take my breath away ringo[13:50:24] <ringo> hej saytama[13:50:49] <Satyam2345> satyama..????? is that refer to me[13:50:53] <mike-zal> does anyone is familiar with plasma themes or actually how to modify them manually? https://forum.manjaro.org/t/how-to-modify-plasma-desktoptheme-for-showing-minimized-programs/16576[13:50:54] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/dWVMth] How to modify plasma desktoptheme for showing minimized programs - Artwork - Manjaro[13:51:05] <ringo> yeah reminds me of one punch man[13:51:11] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[13:51:13] <mike-zal> ups, is anyone familiar, I meant[13:51:13] <Satyam2345> you posted that afternon[13:51:31] <Satyam2345> ONE PUNCHHHHHH[13:51:34] <mike-zal> few hours ago, yes[13:51:51] <mike-zal> looking for somone with experience in that topic[13:51:58] <Satyam2345> if i have to chaange theme i will edit its file[13:52:03] <Satyam2345> thats all[13:52:10] <Satyam2345> what theme.. af[13:52:11] <mike-zal> I know, that's not the issue[13:52:33] <mike-zal> the problem is, what file to change to get results you want and how to change it[13:53:02] <Satyam2345> i am on plasma[13:53:13] <Satyam2345> i am familier with themes sortof[13:53:33] <Satyam2345> which theme specifically you talking[13:53:54] <Satyam2345> desktop,icon,ksplash[13:53:57] <Satyam2345> plymouth[13:54:24] <mike-zal> see link above[13:55:54] <mike-zal> Satyam2345: I know where files are located. but which svgz file is responsible for effects I'm talking about[13:56:09] *** hpp <hpp!~hpp@85-76-8-221-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #manjaro[13:56:20] <mike-zal> there are described on kde site but they are not so well explained[13:58:04] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:58:54] <Satyam2345> i think u must see in file name color .in theme[13:59:15] <Satyam2345> mike-zal^[13:59:20] *** hbx <hbx!498a9687@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.138.150.135> has joined #manjaro[14:00:07] *** durin <durin!~durin@user-94-254-227-75.play-internet.pl> has joined #manjaro[14:00:12] <mike-zal> Satyam2345: did you read what I want to achive on my topic?[14:00:43] <mike-zal> colors are exactly the same as on Maia[14:00:56] <mike-zal> the only difference is few background svgz files[14:01:14] <mike-zal> nad yet, ikon status doesn't work the same way[14:01:31] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.173.188> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[14:01:34] <mike-zal> so I must know which files or lines are responsible for that[14:01:51] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@103.227.71.175> has joined #manjaro[14:01:55] <mike-zal> althoug... I have an idea[14:02:12] <Satyam2345> what happen in minimizing.. can you provide a screenshot[14:02:39] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[14:04:04] <mike-zal> yeah, I got it![14:04:11] *** durin <durin!~durin@user-94-254-227-75.play-internet.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:04:30] <mike-zal> will describe it in topic later[14:04:31] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #manjaro[14:04:51] <Satyam2345> mike-zal send me theme here.. would like to try[14:04:53] <mike-zal> will also update my theme on the site[14:04:56] *** negen <negen!~negen@46.166.190.167> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:05:14] <Satyam2345> on my username dcc[14:05:15] <mike-zal> Satyam2345: it's already accessible from download more themes[14:05:17] <mike-zal> but it'[14:05:22] <mike-zal> but it's old version[14:05:29] <mike-zal> will be updating it today[14:06:26] <mike-zal> uh, I see some problem thou[14:06:41] <mike-zal> panel has borsder now[14:06:55] <mike-zal> will have to fix it before updating[14:09:03] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.202.49.28> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:11:29] <Jeannie> Panel borders ? In Plasma5?[14:11:38] *** crzyp3ck <crzyp3ck!~demo@unaffiliated/crzyp3ck> has joined #manjaro[14:11:43] <crzyp3ck> hello guys[14:12:36] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[14:12:54] <crzyp3ck> the UI installer on Xfce verion (i686) of manjaro doesn't work. ( at least on my PC). is there a text base installer?[14:13:23] <tunage> I am trying to get pstore running https://bpaste.net/show/f331051610ee but when I try to initialize a crash with 'echo c > /proc/sysrq-trigger', upon reboot, I get nothing. What did I miss?[14:13:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/LpLwhv] show at bpaste[14:14:21] <crzyp3ck> anyone?[14:14:41] <mike-zal> Jeannie: yes, but I believe I can disable them. will look into it. my old version of the theme doesn't have borders. something I changed now restored them but I will find out waht[14:15:11] <Jeannie> Panel borders in plama5 indicate that compositing has been disabled[14:15:32] <mike-zal> crzyp3ck: what's your computer? most computers nowadays need x64 not i686[14:16:03] <mike-zal> Jeannie: not in this case. this is simply a panel setting[14:16:15] <Strit_Laptop> crzyp3ck: what error do you get?[14:18:41] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has joined #manjaro[14:27:40] *** Joseph <Joseph!~Penskins@gateway/tor-sasl/penskins> has joined #manjaro[14:27:52] <BugzBunny> Jeannie, [07:39:51] * Jeannie is waiting for AMD to die[14:27:54] <BugzBunny> Hmmm[14:28:07] <BugzBunny> So you part of the green team huh[14:28:24] <Joseph> time to install Conky[14:28:54] * BugzBunny is waiting for Nvidia to die[14:29:03] <BugzBunny> :-p[14:29:16] * BugzBunny is waiting for Intel to die[14:29:53] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@117.254.77.145> has joined #manjaro[14:29:59] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.249.161.113> has joined #manjaro[14:30:03] * Strit_Laptop is waiting for free drivers to be as good as nonfree drivers..... (is gonna die before that happens)[14:30:09] *** enkeys_ <enkeys_!~enkeys@static-cl188134236155.unet.cz> has joined #manjaro[14:30:10] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[14:30:58] <mrbinaer> jeannie[14:31:09] <crzyp3ck> mike-zal: Strit_Laptop it is an old i856 intel pc. and I am booting the manjaro-xfce-16.10.3-stable-i686.iso, no problem. even I use it. but the installer just gives a blank left frame after the partitioning section and Next to start the install.[14:32:00] <Satyam2345> yes.. i faced it too[14:32:05] <Satyam2345> i know the soln[14:32:21] <Satyam2345> its all about patience seriously..[14:33:07] <Satyam2345> my laptop is old samsung n100 with intel atom 2.1 dual ;1 gb ram[14:33:25] <Jeannie> Yes?[14:33:37] <Satyam2345> ^^^^^^[14:34:01] <Satyam2345> installer problem "calamares"[14:34:18] <Satyam2345> thats why need a cli installed[14:34:25] <Satyam2345> installer*[14:35:08] <Jeannie> A cli installer existed[14:35:41] <Satyam2345> 16.10 .. what name[14:36:11] <Satyam2345> they removed it.. maybe[14:36:49] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@0x5e9166c3.adsl.cybercity.dk> has joined #manjaro[14:37:25] <BugzBunny> Jeannie, You were part of the 3 million women march?[14:37:40] * BugzBunny looks at Trump[14:38:22] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-066-201-055.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[14:38:33] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[14:38:59] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[14:39:22] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132003122.public.t-mobile.at> has joined #manjaro[14:39:24] <BugzBunny> lol, no?[14:40:25] * Joseph wonders how this is related to Manjaro[14:40:31] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as olem91[14:40:39] <Jeannie> No, I don't travel to trumpland, sorry[14:41:08] <Satyam2345> Jeannie .whats your age.[14:41:15] <Satyam2345> ohh wrong ques[14:41:53] <Jeannie> You don't expect an answer, do you?[14:42:01] <Satyam2345> #manjaro-talk[14:42:20] <Satyam2345> yes..[14:42:29] <BugzBunny> Jeannie, daum, trumpland[14:42:35] <BugzBunny> eeeeeeeeeek[14:42:39] <olem91> how are liking Majaro?1[14:42:40] <Satyam2345> i expect a honest answer 0f that[14:42:56] <Jeannie> Expect what you want[14:43:14] <BugzBunny> Uh oh, you got Jeannie mad[14:43:28] <BugzBunny> She might decide to drop the ban hammer xD[14:43:37] <Jeannie> Not yet[14:43:42] <Satyam2345> lets go offtopic[14:43:45] <crzyp3ck> Satyam2345: after a minute my video card stop sending video to monitor all togather[14:44:29] <Joseph> Let's not go off-topic. Thank you.[14:44:30] <Satyam2345> crzyp3ck what are you talking about[14:45:21] * BugzBunny goes off-topic[14:45:35] * Satyam2345 already on offtopic[14:45:49] <BugzBunny> Satyam2345, Let us get married then xD[14:46:06] <BugzBunny> Uhhh, crzyp3ck, what video card do you have?[14:46:21] <Satyam2345> you are not a women and i am not even 18 yet[14:46:29] <BugzBunny> hahahahahhahahahahahahhaha[14:46:31] <BugzBunny> ROFL[14:46:35] <olem91> ohh[14:46:41] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[14:46:50] <BugzBunny> xD[14:46:51] <Satyam2345> i am having a great feeling of having ban if we talk here[14:46:54] <crzyp3ck> guys I can see in the wiki that there is an ncurses installer available. yes/[14:46:56] <crzyp3ck> ?[14:46:58] <Satyam2345> #manjaro-talk[14:47:21] <Satyam2345> don't know but calamares still work.[14:47:45] <BugzBunny> crzyp3ck, For one, unless you use the netinstaller, IIRC, the CLI is depreciated with the new version and they focusing only on calamares[14:48:07] <BugzBunny> crzyp3ck, So download the Net installer ISO if you want to use the CLI version[14:48:15] <Satyam2345> you just have to open it in maximize mode and don't touch anything other than calamares. wait in partition section even spinner stop[14:48:18] <BugzBunny> I mean, the CLI installer[14:48:51] <Satyam2345> if you move it around then window disappear and freezes[14:49:41] <Satyam2345> don't touch other things while installing.. fsck takes 30 min in partition section background[14:50:18] <BugzBunny> It takes me 3 minutes to install Manjaro[14:50:32] <Satyam2345> Its about low end pc[14:50:35] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:50:39] <Satyam2345> which i have[14:50:48] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:50:50] <BugzBunny> It took you that long?[14:51:06] <BugzBunny> You must have a VERY VERY VERY slow hard drive[14:51:09] <Satyam2345> it took me 3 hour to install manjaro kde..[14:51:15] <BugzBunny> wow[14:51:18] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[14:51:23] <Satyam2345> install was of 15 min[14:51:31] <Joseph> 3 hours is a bit much[14:51:35] <Joseph> What are the specs on that system?[14:51:42] <Satyam2345> but calamares not responce took 40 to 50 min[14:51:58] <Satyam2345> 2.1 atom dual core with 1 gb ram[14:52:03] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:52:10] <Joseph> And hard drive?[14:52:11] <Satyam2345> 1.3 ghz[14:52:22] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:52:32] *** hbx_ <hbx_!~hbx@c-73-138-150-135.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[14:52:38] <Satyam2345> 25 mbps max[14:52:54] *** hbx_ <hbx_!~hbx@c-73-138-150-135.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:53:02] <crzyp3ck> radcon ring stalled more tan blablablaa..... ?[14:53:07] <Satyam2345> its a netbook[14:53:50] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[14:53:58] <Satyam2345> its very old too and going in dump after few month[14:54:01] *** hbx_ <hbx_!~hbx@174.127.120.62> has joined #manjaro[14:54:25] <Joseph> have you thought about the Xfce edition? that's much lighter than KDE[14:54:32] <BugzBunny> Right[14:54:40] <Satyam2345> it working smooth[14:54:55] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[14:54:55] <Satyam2345> i have to disable just fade and blur effect[14:54:56] <BugzBunny> Okay, well, you have it installed[14:55:02] <BugzBunny> So things are good then[14:55:26] <BugzBunny> crzyp3ck, I don't know what you mean with that question?[14:56:02] <Satyam2345> calamares installer freeze^[14:56:04] *** m712 is now known as oneGram[14:56:05] <BugzBunny> crzyp3ck, Can you please elaborate instead of posting some random question and expect an anser?[14:56:27] <crzyp3ck> BugzBunny: that was the error on the other tty...[14:56:31] <BugzBunny> That's guessing, and I am on fact finding mission if he wants any help[14:56:34] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:57:09] <BugzBunny> Other tty? What's that suppose to mean? You asked for CLI installer, are you saying you are using Calamares instead?[14:59:39] * BugzBunny watches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIYsP03rs38&index=17&list=PLk6W1KxWnn5DVkdfWzU3PglcGd_CREMUe[14:59:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/9M8pgj] Dragon Quest Builders Gameplay - Ep 17 - Chapter 2 Rimuldar (Lets Play Dragon Quest Builders - YouTube[15:00:05] <Satyam2345> you should watch resident evil 7[15:00:14] *** ultrixx <ultrixx!~ultrixx@p5DC76C6F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: quit)[15:00:36] <BugzBunny> That Game, I will see if I can install it and do a Let's Play on[15:00:41] <BugzBunny> :-p[15:02:36] <BugzBunny> Dues EX Human Mankind I think, is my next game after I finish Mafia 3[15:02:52] <Satyam2345> I love mafia[15:02:53] <BugzBunny> 77GB game man, 77GB, dafuq[15:03:11] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:03:31] <BugzBunny> Satyam2345, Played Mafia 2 and play Mafia 3, tried to play Mafia 1[15:03:35] <BugzBunny> I was like wtf[15:03:43] <BugzBunny> I stopped playing[15:03:45] * Satyam2345 thinks bugzbunny wasting time on games[15:04:01] <BugzBunny> I don't mind at all[15:04:33] <BugzBunny> Hell, when I die, I will have DOOM on the screen with my hands glued on the keyboard buried with me[15:04:36] <Satyam2345> Yes (o . -)[15:05:31] <BugzBunny> I am starving[15:05:46] <BugzBunny> I need a chick to cook for me[15:06:10] * BugzBunny goes to the street and look for whore and pay $15 bucks to cook for me[15:06:28] <Satyam2345> a chick who can debug my programs[15:06:43] * Satyam2345 asking jeannie whats her age[15:06:43] <Satyam2345> is she a she[15:08:05] <BugzBunny> Leave her alone, she will put you on ignore quickly[15:08:41] <Satyam2345> i am on no mood either because i know she will be lot older than me[15:09:27] <Satyam2345> i am 17.. hmm a little linux user.( usin since i was 12)[15:09:30] * BugzBunny goes make some food[15:09:38] <BugzBunny> :)[15:12:36] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:12:53] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:13:01] <tunage> why is getting into this kernel such a pain? https://bpaste.net/show/1853c12105fe[15:13:01] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/4JozkQ] show at bpaste[15:14:21] <tunage> gcc is very installed[15:14:34] <tunage> but make explodes[15:14:39] *** Dearu <Dearu!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[15:15:27] <Satyam2345> tunage: what is cooking[15:15:40] *** olem91 <olem91!~manjaro-k@0x5e9166c3.adsl.cybercity.dk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:16:22] <tunage> Satyam2345: fried chicken. I got kernel sanders on the menu today.[15:16:41] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@dih241.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[15:17:01] <Jeannie> Sounds delicious, various hormones and antibiotics in one dish[15:17:28] <Satyam2345> Android kernel or linux[15:17:59] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[15:18:05] <tunage> Jeannie: who says chickens can't have 6 legs[15:18:23] <Jeannie> Biologists say that[15:18:29] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zldjeehxolyzggpf> has joined #manjaro[15:18:54] <Satyam2345> maybe some genetic mutation can help[15:19:44] <Satyam2345> i still need answer; WHich kernel[15:20:33] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:20:46] <Satyam2345> ohh Manjaro[15:21:45] <BugzBunny> tunage, This should be clear to you as day, scripts/Makefile.build:44: arch/x86/entry/syscalls/Makefile: No such file or directory[15:21:56] <BugzBunny> Like, the easiest error to debug[15:22:23] <BugzBunny> I don't know what the hell you compiling and you ask people to blindly give you answer to whatever problem you have[15:22:36] <tunage> BugzBunny: make very exist[15:22:50] <Satyam2345> is directory is readable by current user[15:22:57] <tunage> root?[15:23:01] <BugzBunny> No such file or directory[15:23:07] <BugzBunny> It's not Permission Denied[15:23:10] <BugzBunny> WTF[15:23:23] <tunage> why does it want another make file in that directory?[15:23:30] <Satyam2345> are you running make on root??[15:23:37] <tunage> what special parameters does it want in that make file?[15:23:47] <tunage> the error is useless. Yes, I am very root[15:23:49] <BugzBunny> tunage, Perhaps you don't understand how Makefile works[15:23:57] <tunage> I write make files[15:24:19] <BugzBunny> If you do, then you should understand why it's looking for makefile in that directory[15:24:26] <BugzBunny> Or go complain to the author[15:24:34] <tunage> its looking in the wrong directory[15:25:19] <BugzBunny> We still at step 1, what the hell you compiling?[15:25:28] <tunage> https://bpaste.net/show/2f2aa81fbcc2[15:25:29] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/xZKaCP] show at bpaste[15:25:36] <tunage> the makefile is right there[15:26:14] <BugzBunny> That says what? Like just post a listing of a directory then[15:26:23] <BugzBunny> You guess what I am compiling[15:27:01] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[15:27:57] <tunage> I am trying to compile the kernel[15:28:08] <Satyam2345> arch/x86/entry/syscalls/Makefile it is present..? if yes then somewhat wrong in script or in permission[15:28:19] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[15:28:22] <BugzBunny> tunage, What version and why?[15:28:35] <BugzBunny> Additionally, where did you pull the source from?[15:28:58] <Satyam2345> its in https://bpaste.net/show/1853c12105fe[15:28:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/4JozkQ] show at bpaste[15:29:20] <Satyam2345> ^^ still need answer of sources[15:29:29] *** tmsbrdrs__ <tmsbrdrs__!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[15:29:35] <tunage> Satyam2345: nope arch/x86/entry does not exist.[15:29:51] <BugzBunny> Satyam2345, Where does it say that, please explain it to me[15:29:53] *** crzyp3ck_ <crzyp3ck_!~demo@37.254.223.21> has joined #manjaro[15:30:08] <BugzBunny> Ahh, 4.4?[15:30:26] <tunage> BugzBunny: I am trying to get pstore running https://bpaste.net/show/d37602ba5d03[15:30:27] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ndpQ7q] show at bpaste[15:31:26] <Satyam2345> i need script file from what you are making...(i have no idea on linux kernel.. but in android)[15:31:31] <BugzBunny> tunage, Well, where did you get the sources? methinks the source isn't complete, did you make config before hand?[15:31:35] <tunage> BugzBunny: I pulled the source in via pacman[15:31:59] <BugzBunny> or make <whateverconfig>[15:32:21] <BugzBunny> I see make clean, but did you run ^^[15:32:30] <tunage> BugzBunny: default .config then used the gui to initialize pstore_console[15:32:41] *** crzyp3ck <crzyp3ck!~demo@unaffiliated/crzyp3ck> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:32:48] <tunage> next step is compile. then BOOM! :/[15:33:24] <Satyam2345> if everything is default then why are u compiling it[15:33:37] <tunage> I added pstore_console[15:33:41] <BugzBunny> There is a default .config, IIRC, unless you pull .config from somewhere, it got generated by make <whateverconfig>[15:33:57] <BugzBunny> But methinks that the source is not complete[15:34:06] <BugzBunny> Try pull the sources from kernel.org[15:34:10] <tunage> BugzBunny: yes, the one generated[15:34:15] <tunage> default[15:34:37] <BugzBunny> They make it so easy to compile the kernel[15:35:15] <BugzBunny> You shouldn't run into that problem.. Then again, I never pull sources from the distro repo but kernel.org if I want to compile my own Kernel[15:35:33] <BugzBunny> And I have, you need at least 30GB and about 6 hours[15:35:50] <tunage> the package manager is supposed to be the easiest and with all other distros, will even take care of grub for you...[15:36:10] <Satyam2345> FOR KERNEL... 6 hour.[15:36:26] <BugzBunny> For Firefox, about the same time peried[15:36:26] <Satyam2345> i usually worked with android kernel[15:36:29] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[15:36:57] <BugzBunny> Well, maybe 6 hours is too much, but I know I had go to sleep, and let it compile[15:37:06] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[15:37:15] <BugzBunny> tunage, Then report a bug[15:37:19] <Satyam2345> can i add some features in kernel if it from source like android..[15:37:44] <BugzBunny> tunage, Or perhaps, report a bug you need *this* and maybe the devs will push a kernel update[15:38:00] <tunage> i just need pstore to work[15:38:00] <BugzBunny> I don't know about Android Kernel, I never built it[15:38:13] <tunage> its not a bug.[15:38:25] <Satyam2345> maybe you mistaken in pull[15:38:31] <BugzBunny> The make issue[15:38:35] <BugzBunny> That bug[15:38:39] <BugzBunny> Not about pstore[15:39:13] <BugzBunny> It's not complete, maybe there is a wiki that explains how to properly compile the Kernel on Manjaro[15:39:16] <tunage> unless the engineer has my laptop, a bugreport won't help to much. this is my 6th OS[15:39:34] <tunage> I just need so kernel debugging[15:40:08] <tunage> some[15:40:11] <BugzBunny> Sigh, that's not what I am saying, I am saying.. 'I having issue compiling this kernel' and the devs either rectify it or point you how to do it on Manjaro[15:40:47] <tunage> BugzBunny: thats endusers error, not a bug.[15:41:00] <BugzBunny> LOL[15:41:25] <Satyam2345> there is no such thing..[15:41:30] <BugzBunny> tunage, Then if you believe you f up, then the problem relies on you to fix it[15:41:46] <Satyam2345> they are same code what dev pushed[15:41:58] <tunage> BugzBunny: I didn't screw it up. HP did.[15:42:19] <tunage> I have to figure out what the fools did.[15:43:32] * BugzBunny feels his stressing out, maybe his to grumpy because we getting no where[15:43:45] * BugzBunny goes back to finish making some food[15:44:06] <Satyam2345> Perhaps you should order something[15:44:24] *** Dippy <Dippy!~manjaro-k@151.237.25.139> has joined #manjaro[15:45:47] *** a1 <a1!4d156016@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.21.96.22> has joined #manjaro[15:45:48] <BugzBunny> Satyam2345, wire me 20 bucks[15:46:03] *** a1 <a1!4d156016@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.21.96.22> has left #manjaro[15:46:11] <BugzBunny> Actually, I am going to walk to the super maker and grab a pizza for 1.99[15:47:17] <Satyam2345> Sorry buddy no Paypal ;so i can't pay my pal[15:47:25] *** a01 <a01!4d156016@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.21.96.22> has joined #manjaro[15:47:58] <a01> hi all, I have a strange problem to boot and installed manjaro 16.10.3[15:48:10] <a01> I cannot boot from the manjaro grub menu[15:48:20] <Satyam2345> what it shows[15:48:29] <a01> system just hangs after trying to boot[15:49:03] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:49:07] <Satyam2345> any msg[15:49:25] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[15:49:26] *** yokel <yokel!~yokel@unaffiliated/contempt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:49:26] *** genpaku <genpaku!~genpaku@107.191.100.185> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:49:28] <a01> on the drive on which I installed the manjaro I also have an ubuntu 16.04 installed. When I boot into ubuntu from the manajaro grub menu[15:49:30] <a01> ..[15:49:55] <Satyam2345> what option do you choosed while installing manjaro..[15:49:58] <a01> and then install grub from the ubuntu command line into the mbr of the same drive[15:50:04] *** genpaku <genpaku!~genpaku@107.191.100.185> has joined #manjaro[15:50:07] *** yokel <yokel!~yokel@unaffiliated/contempt> has joined #manjaro[15:50:09] <a01> one moment[15:50:45] <a01> and then pick the manjaro entry from the grub menu installed by ubuntu I can boot the manjaro[15:50:52] <a01> very strange[15:51:15] <Satyam2345> i mean on same drive as ubuntu.. by replace partition[15:51:34] <a01> no, s[15:51:46] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[15:51:50] <a01> same drive as ubuntu but different partiton[15:52:11] <Satyam2345> " /dev/sda?[15:52:16] <a01> manjaro is on hd1,gpt2 and ubuntu is on hd1,gtp4[15:52:37] <Satyam2345> grub on mbr[15:52:51] <a01> yes, on mbr. when trying to boot manjaro from the original grub.cfg[15:53:05] <a01> the kernel shows "version 232"[15:53:15] <a01> then says "/dev/sdb2 cle[15:53:34] <a01> an and shown how many files/blocks[15:53:39] <Satyam2345> you should try reinstalling grub ..[15:54:02] <a01> I tried many times to reinstall grub[15:54:06] <Satyam2345> update-grub from ubuntu[15:54:08] <a01> no help[15:55:02] <a01> well "update-grub" from ubuntu creates a working grub.cfg[15:55:17] <a01> but I want the manjaro grub to work[15:55:30] <Satyam2345> use it instead and.. do post on manjaro forum[15:56:35] <a01> ok, I try to post on the forum[15:56:40] <a01> thanks and bye[15:56:42] <Satyam2345> have you updated kernel recently[15:56:49] <a01> yes, I have[15:57:02] <a01> I installed it a week ago[15:57:06] <Satyam2345> maybe your kernel was'nt registered on grub[15:57:21] <a01> after that it found 1.2 GB to update[15:57:44] <Satyam2345> thats a very less likely issue..[15:57:49] <a01> it is a 4.4.41 kernel[15:58:39] <a01> I am writing from the running manjaro which I booted from the ubuntu grub[15:59:02] <a01> is there a special log I should inspect for some messages?[15:59:45] *** Dearu <Dearu!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Dearu)[16:00:08] <Satyam2345> i can't confirm your issue on manjaro grub so i cant tell[16:00:50] <Satyam2345> it can be fault of grub.. but grub show some msg..[16:01:02] <Satyam2345> which you have'nt mentioned[16:02:58] <a01> grub shows messages? I do not know what you mean.[16:03:22] <a01> As far as I can tell the kernel shows 2 or 3 lines of messages and then goes into a loop[16:03:39] <a01> first the screen goes black for 5 secs[16:03:53] <a01> then the messages "version 232" and so on come back[16:04:00] <Satyam2345> does font changes or dpi[16:04:01] <a01> it hangs then , I have to poi[16:04:38] <a01> power cylce it to get the bios loaded again[16:04:52] <a01> then I cant try another entry of the grub menu[16:04:52] <Satyam2345> kernel issue..[16:05:37] <Satyam2345> its not likely configured in grub about kernel and other things[16:05:41] <a01> before I see "version 232" it shows me a spash image[16:05:50] <a01> that kind of manjaro icon[16:05:56] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:06:12] <Satyam2345> manjaro in text[16:06:15] <Satyam2345> or icon[16:06:44] <a01> rather text, relative big white letters[16:07:09] <a01> in the center of the screen[16:07:23] <Satyam2345> with dots below it[16:07:29] <a01> yes[16:07:40] <Satyam2345> its a plymouth splash screen[16:07:54] <a01> ok, can be[16:08:01] <Satyam2345> press esc to see debug messeges[16:08:09] <Satyam2345> on screen[16:08:22] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:08:29] <a01> the plymoth is only on for 1-2 secs[16:09:38] <Satyam2345> ohh its strange .because you can boot from ubuntu's grub. you should post on manjaro forum..[16:09:42] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@122.173.79.153> has joined #manjaro[16:09:50] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@117.254.77.145> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:09:53] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@122.173.79.153> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:10:08] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@117.254.77.145> has joined #manjaro[16:13:25] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@117.254.77.145> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:13:38] <a01> I leave now. have a good day, all![16:13:55] *** a01 <a01!4d156016@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.21.96.22> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[16:14:24] <mike-zal> Jeannie: my theme is updated. if you run plasma, you can check it: https://store.kde.org/p/1085371/[16:14:25] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jtQCSL] Maia Transparent - store.kde.org[16:14:34] <mike-zal> if something is not working, let me know[16:14:54] <Satyam2345> hey! will feedback[16:15:27] <Satyam2345> hope it will work with dark color scheme[16:15:36] <mike-zal> don't forget to use dark, homogenous wallpaper with it, otherwise it will be pain to look or read texts in menus[16:15:54] <mike-zal> Satyam2345: yes, it is meant for dark wallpaper[16:16:19] <mike-zal> for light one or colorful one, use rather original maia theme[16:16:52] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@117.254.77.145> has joined #manjaro[16:16:53] <mike-zal> as for window themes, this has nothing to do with them so you can have light or dark theme[16:18:22] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@46.246.198.232.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[16:18:41] <mike-zal> only some dekstop themes handles icon indicators well. maia is among them, so I really wanted to work with my version as well.[16:18:49] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[16:19:48] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.249.161.113> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:20:14] *** notis <notis!~notis@77.49.146.159.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[16:20:39] *** hughparker1 <hughparker1!5c1644ee@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.92.22.68.238> has joined #manjaro[16:21:01] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has joined #manjaro[16:21:47] <hughparker1> where can I find beginner user guide for manjaro release 16.10.3[16:21:54] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-89-241-175-188.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:21:59] <PipeItToDevNull> What issues are you having hughparker1 ?[16:22:02] *** talvdav <talvdav!~user@x59cc8246.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[16:22:30] <mike-zal> hughparker1: open terminal and type: manjaro-documentation[16:22:32] <Joseph> hughparker1: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Main_Page#Getting_Started[16:22:34] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/LPNLUm] Manjaro Linux[16:22:39] <PipeItToDevNull> The Manjaro Wiki can be found here: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Main_Page[16:22:39] <mike-zal> and then enter[16:22:40] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/U4vevT] Manjaro Linux[16:22:51] <PipeItToDevNull> The Arch Wiki is also mostly valid[16:23:50] <mike-zal> basically there are 4 important resources: 1. manjaro-documentation (pdf in a system) 2. manjaro wiki 3. manjaro forum 4. arch wiki[16:24:02] <mike-zal> and maybe this channel ;)[16:24:58] <mike-zal> I have do idea why manjaro-documentaion is not showed in welcome screen right out of the box. some editions have in on desktop already (like deepin)[16:25:16] <PipeItToDevNull> Cause google[16:25:47] <mike-zal> PipeItToDevNull: the file is on your system already, you shouldn't have to google it[16:26:09] <Joseph> mike-zal: actually, it is. On Xfce edition atleast, I had to manually disable a welcome screen, part of which had documentation[16:26:28] <mike-zal> welcome screen had a link to a site, not a pdf file[16:26:47] <mike-zal> unless it's only kde edition that is flawed and don't show this[16:27:24] <mike-zal> but whenever I was checking manjaro welcome screen, it never had link to a pdf file[16:27:36] <mike-zal> you can access it through terminal thou...[16:27:54] <mike-zal> or by search in start menu[16:30:15] *** enkeys_ <enkeys_!~enkeys@static-cl188134236155.unet.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:32:46] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:33:25] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-092-075-127-159.092.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[16:33:30] <hughparker1> thanks for feedback, I'm using Xfce desktop. I had an older pdf file 16.08 but couldn't find one for 16.10.3[16:33:41] <hughparker1> but I have just found this link https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux/files/release/16.10.3/[16:34:08] <hughparker1> Just downloaded Manjaro-16.10.3-User-Guide.pdf[16:36:18] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[16:36:35] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:38:35] *** hedgie <hedgie!~hedgie@2602:306:3144:1e10:652d:b973:841:f5> has joined #manjaro[16:38:51] *** joaojotta <joaojotta!~joaojotta@acb1-84-91-18-209.netvisao.pt> has joined #manjaro[16:40:38] *** chomwitt <chomwitt!~chomwitt@athedsl-31597.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[16:40:49] <mike-zal> hughparker1: that is exactly the same file I was talking about, you already had in in your system[16:41:05] <mike-zal> hughparker1: just type in terminal: manjaro-documentation[16:41:14] <mike-zal> and it will open[16:41:48] <mike-zal> it's also always updated with system so you won't have to look for newer versions[16:42:27] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[16:42:38] <mike-zal> it's even probable it's newer then the file you just downloaded[16:43:56] <PipeItToDevNull> Can someone ping my name for me, need to see if my beeper works[16:44:34] <mike-zal> PipeItToDevNull:[16:44:41] <PipeItToDevNull> Nope, damn[16:45:10] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[16:45:40] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@176.120.255.231> has joined #manjaro[16:45:56] *** hughparker1 <hughparker1!5c1644ee@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.92.22.68.238> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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For all your pasting needs![17:09:59] *** linda_ <linda_!~linda@2a02:8070:c6a2:4800:4ecc:6aff:fe05:58d1> has joined #manjaro[17:10:00] <hughparker1> not sure why I had to use pasteb.in for my post[17:10:11] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-092-075-127-159.092.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:11:09] <hughparker1> how can I reply to a specific use without using pasteb.in This is my first time on an IRC channel, so sorry if it's a stupid question[17:11:26] <hughparker1> specific user[17:13:13] *** talvdav <talvdav!~user@x59cc8246.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:13:29] <Joseph> hughparker1: for some reason it does that in the webchat sometimes. don't worry about it, usually you put the nickname of the person in front, a colon, and then your message to them[17:13:31] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@117.254.77.145> has joined #manjaro[17:13:33] <Joseph> hughparker1: like I am dong now for you[17:13:40] <Joseph> doing*[17:14:27] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has joined #manjaro[17:14:53] <hughparker1> Joseph: OK I'll try again[17:15:01] <hughparker1> it worked ok thanks[17:15:05] <Joseph> yeah[17:15:10] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@117.254.77.145> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:15:10] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets> has joined #manjaro[17:15:57] <hughparker1> mike-zal: "just type in terminal: manjaro-documentation" - thanks for the tip, that's the best way to get up-to-date user guide. at least you know it's always going to be the latest version. trying this again[17:16:40] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[17:20:19] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[17:20:41] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:20:57] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets> has joined #manjaro[17:21:06] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[17:21:14] <hughparker1> thanks for you help guys, I must leave now, got family dinner to cook :)[17:21:41] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@103.227.71.175> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:21:54] *** hughparker1 <hughparker1!5c16475e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.92.22.71.94> has left #manjaro[17:22:08] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:23:10] *** meta-system <meta-system!~meta-syst@89-92-105-70.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:23:58] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[17:25:00] *** Fooguo__ is now known as fooguo[17:25:01] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:25:32] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[17:25:34] <mike-zal> bugie will be switching to qt! http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/01/budgie-desktop-moving-qt-11[17:25:36] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/pg2YlU] Budgie Desktop Is Moving to Qt - OMG! Ubuntu![17:25:49] <Joseph> mike-zal: interesting[17:26:44] <Joseph> oh, I see Ubuntu Budgie was made an official flavor a couple of months ago.[17:26:47] <Joseph> had no clue about that.[17:27:17] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@145.130.236.170> has joined #manjaro[17:27:36] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@145.130.236.170> has left #manjaro[17:29:56] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-186-75.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:31:55] *** bennypr0fane_ <bennypr0fane_!~manjaro-k@078132119149.public.t-mobile.at> has joined #manjaro[17:34:50] <mike-zal> I wasn't interested in bugie myself but when it switches to qt, I will check it[17:35:04] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132003122.public.t-mobile.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:35:43] <mike-zal> I defenitely prefer qt, although I try to use gtk on gnome and qt on plasma nad lxqt.[17:35:47] <Joseph> I see[17:35:55] <mike-zal> however browsers are mostly gtk still[17:35:56] <Jeannie> I doubt that a Gnome3 based DE will ever switch to QT[17:36:00] <Joseph> speaking of GUIs, I just put some Conky widgets on my Xfce Manjaro[17:36:04] <Joseph> Looks pretty sweet now[17:36:20] <mike-zal> Jeannie: I doubt that too. they mold gtk to fit for gnome 3[17:36:37] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, now try conky with a decent wm like awesome or dwm :D[17:36:37] <Jeannie> GTK should rather be called libgnome[17:37:11] <Joseph> Lowl3v3l: yeah, for that you'd need to dig deep into writing your own .conkyrc I guess[17:37:17] <Lowl3v3l> Jeannie, nah. the gimp folks themselves are angry at gnome for twhat they did to their toolkit :D[17:37:33] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, not really. i'd say it may take 10 or 20 minutes[17:37:58] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, configuring the wm to your liking on the other hand with all needed programs might take some time[17:38:22] <Jeannie> Well, then the gimp guys shouldn't have handed GTK over to Gnome[17:38:24] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[17:38:58] <Joseph> Lowl3v3l: lol, yeah.[17:39:41] <linux_dream> whats up with all the gstreamer 0.10 packages that can't be built from the aur but are required to make a manjaro update?[17:40:22] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, but any software needs tome time until you configured it and are comfortable i suppose.[17:40:36] <Joseph> Lowl3v3l: yeah, especially truer for some distros/GUIs[17:40:58] <Joseph> things like Linux Mint and Ubuntu are designed to "run out of the box"[17:41:04] <Joseph> Arch is on the other side of the spectrum[17:41:18] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, nah not really. Some programs are just good at telling people "i am what you really want and if i am not how you'd like sth is wrong with you"[17:41:25] <Joseph> lol[17:41:30] <Jeannie> Manjaro is not pure arch tough[17:41:40] <Joseph> I didn't say it was :P[17:41:44] <Joseph> I'm comparing distros[17:42:17] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, essentially Mint and *buntu ( and manjaro is somewhat the same) lie to you. They make you believe just because they SOMEHOW "run"( or just not explode loud enough) maintaining them or setting them up is "easy" and "everybody can do it".[17:42:29] <Joseph> Yeah, true.[17:42:54] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, i just completely disagree with the notion of a distro "being easier" ;)[17:43:29] <PipeItToDevNull> You cannot deny that Arch takes more time and knowledge to set up than either Manjaro or ubuntu[17:43:32] <Joseph> when I installed Manjaro on my netbook the first time, the 4.4 kernel actually had an issue with the suspend/hibernate functions. took a while to figure out a newer kernel may solve it. And it did.[17:44:14] <Lowl3v3l> PipeItToDevNull, what do you call "setting up"? if you do a decent job i'd even argue ubuntu and manjaro taking longer because stripping all unnecessary stuff takes longer than building from the ground up ^.^[17:44:45] <Joseph> well, that's what the netinstall is for I guess. For Ubuntu, you can use the Server edition and build up from there[17:44:48] <Lowl3v3l> PipeItToDevNull, "working" and "not exploding loud enough to notice" are two different things :)[17:45:02] <Joseph> I know someone who built up their own i3 Ubuntu starting from the Server edition[17:45:27] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, which still fucks up many things. Sometime when doing this stuff you learn to distrust installers. Ubuntu can be installed with debootstrap or multistrap just fine, so why use "installers" at all?^^[17:45:44] <Joseph> what does it fuck up? :P[17:46:15] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, ubuntu is pretty broken. E.g. try proper apt-pinning on it :)[17:46:27] <Joseph> Hm[17:47:20] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, or all the things where canonical just HAD TO go it own way. E.g. their "alternative" to wayland, their own init system ( for some time they used 3 init systems in parallel on every installation), unity, their "patches" to gtk and the gnome libs that essentially dont work anywhere else...[17:48:12] <Joseph> Unity is exclusive to vanilla Ubuntu though, none of the other official flavors have it (and yes, I know about the Amazon debacle. that was a bad call from Canonical)[17:49:12] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, i didn't even talk about the amazon thing. But if you SOMEHOW manage to build a GUI that runs on no other distro you fucked up big time ( and yes i know of CASE STUDIES to do it on arch, they are still not usable)[17:49:30] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, and canonicals management decisions are shitty too since they decided to make money out of it :D[17:49:52] <Lowl3v3l> that was when i leaved ubuntu, before i even maintained some small packages and stuff^.^[17:50:14] <Jeannie> I left Ubuntu exactly 30 minutes after I upgraded to 11.04[17:50:53] <Joseph> yeah, I guess that's why there's a difference between Canonical and Red Hat. Red Hat have Fedora, which is the standard free distro you'd use, and then there's the RHEL which is the enterprise distro; but for Ubuntu it's all the same thing, whether you're corporate or a free user[17:50:55] <Lowl3v3l> Jeannie, yeah i was in there until 10.04^^[17:51:31] <Jeannie> 10.10 was "the best" for me[17:51:37] <Joseph> which is why their capitalistic mindset also bleeds into the distro that is supposedly for free use[17:51:53] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, nah. The biggest difference isn't that. Red hat understood that they best work together with the rest of the free software world. Canonical understood "oh microsoft is rich"[17:52:06] <Jeannie> Fedora is a test bed for RHEL[17:52:46] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, i mean they kicked out widely regarded community managers because they werte to community friendly and critizised canonical's decisions...[17:52:57] <Joseph> I remember something like that vaguely[17:53:49] <Lowl3v3l> it all started going to shit when shuttleworth suddenly decided somewhat after 10.04 "now we have to make money"[17:54:52] *** Thorax <Thorax!~Thorax@94.197.121.80.threembb.co.uk> has joined #manjaro[17:55:18] <Joseph> I see[17:56:13] *** Dippy <Dippy!~manjaro-k@151.237.25.139> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:56:27] <Lowl3v3l> Joseph, okay and apart from that i strongly disagree with ubuntu's philosophy at whole :D[17:56:37] <Joseph> So I've noticed :p[18:00:49] *** meta-system <meta-system!~meta-syst@89-92-105-70.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[18:00:52] <tunage> I have 2 kernels to compile. my poor netbook is gonna be busy for a long time.. :/[18:01:42] <tunage> that is, if it doesn't lock up during the process. Then it will take a phuckton longer.[18:01:42] <Lowl3v3l> tunage, have you thought about using distcc? :)[18:02:30] <tunage> sticking with what I know in known steps. I am debugging a nasty engineering flaw.[18:03:01] <tunage> and nobody can help till I get them some output.[18:03:02] <Joseph> tunage: what kind of flaw?[18:03:11] <tunage> coputer keeps freezing[18:03:16] <Joseph> o.o[18:03:21] <tunage> its about useless[18:03:30] <Joseph> You're getting this with the stock kernels that come with Manjaro?[18:03:36] <tunage> been doing it since the day I nuked winblows off the box[18:03:52] <tunage> been thu 6 OSes[18:04:05] <Lowl3v3l> tunage, my big tip is : use just one and do it right :)[18:04:20] <tunage> it is not heat and shouldn't be electrical, its and HP laptop[18:04:24] <tunage> an[18:05:25] <tunage> one kernel I am compiling is from the package manager. the other is from kernel.org. If one borks, I'll have option B ready.[18:06:34] <Lowl3v3l> tunage, are you going the "official"( aka right) arch linux way? or just doing some make inside the sources?[18:06:43] <Lowl3v3l> tunage, i'd really advise to go the arch way :)[18:06:56] <tunage> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernels/Traditional_compilation#Install_the_core_packages[18:06:59] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/SayQby] Kernels/Traditional compilation - ArchWiki[18:07:04] <tunage> ^^ this morning's bible[18:07:10] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:08:09] <tunage> but I have always found the packagemanager method to run smoother. We shall see. Got both.[18:08:41] <tunage> time to fry up some kernel sanders![18:09:06] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-092-075-127-159.092.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:10:10] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[18:11:13] <tunage> I'm typically a Gentoo user. I'm in the kernel all the time[18:11:53] <Lowl3v3l> tunage, then why not use a gentoo now? o.O[18:12:11] <tunage> gentoo was crashing to. that was attempt #1[18:12:18] <Lowl3v3l> hard[18:12:54] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[18:13:01] <tunage> then switched to suse, she ran ok (definitely not fixed) for a little while, then that had to go....[18:13:51] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-092-075-127-159.092.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:14:12] <Lowl3v3l> tunage, i'm always amazed by gentoo/arch/debian guys ( okay and some other distros) that go back to sth like "suse" :D[18:14:25] <Lowl3v3l> sounds like you were really desparate xD[18:14:48] <Lowl3v3l> tunage, why not use gentoo with a RHEL kernel( its still there, isn't it?) instead? if suse works that should work too[18:15:26] <tunage> mine was simply an issue of trying to stablize a system, and get around efi (at the time of first switching, many boot disk could not find my drive even in legacy).[18:16:28] <tunage> now that I am on OS fix, obviously some update isn't going to fly in and solve my problems.[18:16:36] <tunage> six[18:17:27] <tunage> its dumping a kernel panic somewhere, I just need to get to the little bugar.[18:17:57] <Lowl3v3l> tunage, my usual approach is getting everything that i am not sure to work properly into a module.[18:18:10] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@204.195.178.21> has joined #manjaro[18:18:12] <Lowl3v3l> that way its more clear when it explodes where it happened[18:18:59] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[18:19:19] *** lengeeiomb <lengeeiomb!~lengeeiom@212.112.100.221> has joined #manjaro[18:19:21] <tunage> I have ripped x11 off and she would not freeze. slap x11 back on, same issue. tried both proprietary and generic drivers. same.[18:19:31] <tunage> no log output at all[18:19:57] <Lowl3v3l> okay THATS curious. do you by any chance have a skylake or kaby lake processor?[18:20:01] *** crzyp3ck_ <crzyp3ck_!~demo@37.254.223.21> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[18:20:19] <Lowl3v3l> tunage, if you have a real new intel processor it could be a problem with the builtin gpu[18:20:22] <tunage> intel[18:21:31] <tunage> https://bpaste.net/show/69137ded1bbe[18:21:32] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/VG7P8f] show at bpaste[18:21:53] <lengeeiomb> Hi folks, how to install a package in yaourt from zip file, downloaded with wget? It was very big to download it in one day )[18:22:10] <tunage> https://bpaste.net/show/657632a4df0d[18:22:11] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Y3HA6S] show at bpaste[18:22:23] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[18:22:44] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, not at al. if you dont know how the aur works you shouldn't use it at all. if the "zip file" is not from the aur at all you should be doubly careful.[18:23:35] *** hpp <hpp!~hpp@85-76-8-221-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:24:21] *** notthisjef <notthisjef!55d457e8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.212.87.232> has joined #manjaro[18:24:27] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyy2y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has joined #manjaro[18:24:31] *** twar <twar!~twar@80.51.98.72> has joined #manjaro[18:24:39] *** bewgie <bewgie!~AndChat61@cpe-66-65-72-54.nyc.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[18:25:17] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyy2y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:25:33] <lengeeiomb> Lowl3v3l, i got it by the link from pkgbuild. And, unfortunately, it is available only from AUR[18:25:34] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyy2y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has joined #manjaro[18:26:38] *** bewgiest <bewgiest!~AndChat61@172.56.35.222> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:26:55] <Strit_Laptop> lengeeiomb: you need the rest of the pkgbuild for it. :)[18:27:07] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, then learn what the aur is and stuff before :)[18:27:46] <lengeeiomb> I thought it will not be harder than portage, but...[18:29:42] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, its different. Its NOT a usual repository :) and atm i WANT TO make it hard for you. I disagree with yaourt being preinstalled on manjaro too because the AUR is dangerous ;)[18:31:07] <Strit_Laptop> AUr is fine, as long as you know how it works. And remember to double check the pkgbuilds.[18:31:09] <lengeeiomb> Lowl3v3l, yes, I understand it. But what should I do if there is no android-studio package in pacman repository?[18:31:40] <mike-zal> and learn how to track troubling AUR packages that conflict with manjaro updates[18:31:45] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[18:31:58] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, aur usage works, but not blindly. If you talk gentoo terms, consider it like just configure&make on sth with --prefix=/ ;[18:32:58] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, for development stuff the even better way ( though i dont know android studio) is usually using /opt or /usr/local ( depending on the software) and build it yourself :)[18:33:27] <mike-zal> lengeeiomb: AUR package, it's there to use it, but you have to be cautious and aware of potential issues.[18:34:12] <mike-zal> in most cases they only prevent manjaro updates, which is easy fixable, by finding AUR culprit and unsinatlling it[18:35:20] <lengeeiomb> Lowl3v3l, it's much easier, android-studio is a binary package! I just unpacked it into /home dir and it worked! But I think there will be issues in usage[18:35:37] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-syszzlbtjctgwfyr> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[18:36:29] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, /home is the absolutely wrong place for that :) there's a reason for parts of the FHS , following it usually is pretty sensible ;) the right place would be /opt^^[18:36:35] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, but which issues do you see?[18:36:49] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@204.195.178.21> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:38:24] <lengeeiomb> Lowl3v3l, I don't see them at all, funny but true )[18:39:18] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@m83-180-109-175.cust.tele2.ee> has joined #manjaro[18:41:07] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has joined #manjaro[18:41:08] <lengeeiomb> As I understand from the pkgbuild it just unpacks it in /opt folder and creates icons. I can do it all manually, once, but what if I needed to install something different this way?[18:43:21] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, as i said read the AUR relevant articles in the archwiki :p[18:44:21] <Strit_Laptop> the pkgbuilds contain everything that is done to get the package on the system.[18:45:17] <lengeeiomb> <Lowl3v3l> Ok, I think this is the only way )[18:46:24] <lengeeiomb> Strit_Laptop, yes, but yaourt does not accept local files, ANY local files, even if they have the right checksum[18:46:59] <Strit_Laptop> It does. It needs to be in the same folder as the PKGBUILD. Yaourt needs the PKGBUILD file. Else it won't work.[18:47:02] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[18:47:02] *** kht <kht!~koch@unaffiliated/kht> has joined #manjaro[18:47:12] *** Lemuriano <Lemuriano!~chatzilla@c-73-224-246-54.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[18:47:22] *** enkeys_ <enkeys_!~enkeys@novlen.lit.rev-fortech.cz> has joined #manjaro[18:48:29] *** Lemuriano <Lemuriano!~chatzilla@c-73-224-246-54.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:48:41] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:49:16] <Strit_Laptop> Yaourt compiles the software and creates the package. So it needs instructions to do that. eg, the PKGBUILD file.[18:49:30] <lengeeiomb> <Strit_Laptop> Thanx, i'll try it now.[18:50:03] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, note : the better way is downloading the complete archive and using makepkg -si[18:50:36] <Strit_Laptop> yep. That's the Arch way. :)[18:51:03] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, yaourt itself is a gigantic security flaw. it sources the pkgbuild before it lets you change it ;)[18:51:21] <lengeeiomb> Lowl3v3l, but how will I uninstall it?[18:51:42] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:52:04] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, using pacman. makepkg just builds and installs a package[18:52:12] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[18:52:19] <Strit_Laptop> Yep. Pacman is used after it's installed[18:53:58] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, yaourt is just an unsafe wrapper script around pkgquery, makepkg and pacman[18:55:14] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[18:56:40] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:57:32] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyy2y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[18:58:35] *** manjaro-web|7343 <manjaro-web|7343!44e4a4d4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.228.164.212> has joined #manjaro[18:58:43] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-092-075-127-159.092.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:58:47] <manjaro-web|7343> bark[18:59:09] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@218.248.46.107> has joined #manjaro[18:59:24] <lengeeiomb> Lowl3v3l, Strit_Laptop and others: Finally, I made it! I needed just to copy the file to /tmp/yaourt/blablabla dir! Thanx for help![18:59:29] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyy2y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has joined #manjaro[18:59:34] <manjaro-web|7343> hello[18:59:49] <Lowl3v3l> lengeeiomb, did you read what i wrote towards yaourt?[18:59:54] *** manjaroDeepin is now known as TheHermitSage[19:00:04] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:00:14] *** manjaro-web|7343 <manjaro-web|7343!44e4a4d4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.228.164.212> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:00:44] <omarramo> hey guys my bluetooth mouse doesn't work on manjaro. I tried connecting via interface normally and it says that the connection is succesfull but the mouse doesn't react. I also tried to connect via bluetoothctl but it gets me the same result. what can I try to fix this?[19:01:21] <TheHermitSage> Hello, does anyone know how to compile cuda code in manjaro?[19:01:29] <lengeeiomb> Lowl3v3l, certainly read, but I need to read much more about it. Thanx![19:02:03] <Lowl3v3l> TheHermitSage, uhm install the cuda sdk, use it, be happy? which part of this is unclear?[19:02:33] <TheHermitSage> I installed the cuda sdk.[19:02:48] <TheHermitSage> Compilation problems.[19:02:59] <TheHermitSage> I get linking errors.[19:03:18] <Lowl3v3l> TheHermitSage, then obviously the cuda libs are not in your library path.[19:03:54] <TheHermitSage> But I have added all the necessary paths.[19:04:16] <TheHermitSage> My graphics card is not switching on at all.[19:04:18] *** kht <kht!~koch@unaffiliated/kht> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[19:04:33] <TheHermitSage> It is always running on intel graphics.[19:09:14] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[19:10:55] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:12:10] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[19:14:19] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has joined #manjaro[19:14:56] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #manjaro[19:15:57] <tunage> crap. kernel panic first attempt. 'could not load root fs'.[19:16:59] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyy2y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[19:17:49] <Rayzake> Hello, I'm curious about 'device interrupt 20' after I typed ifconfig on last line of eth0, what is it?[19:18:49] <tunage> Rayzake: your nic[19:18:54] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-088-075-203-147.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[19:18:54] <tunage> ?[19:20:15] <Rayzake> I'm not expert of hardware but I assured you mean network card?[19:21:26] <tunage> yes[19:21:47] <Rayzake> Ok thanks,[19:22:53] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[19:23:02] <tunage> eth = ethernet, wlan = wireless, wlp02lp is some jacked up stuff you will see on redhat which means eth[19:24:44] <Rayzake> I only have wired connection on my computer, thus I can see eth0 depised it show UP but not work to use firefox and any requied over net. oh well. but Thanks for info.[19:25:50] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:26:22] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyy2y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has joined #manjaro[19:30:42] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[19:32:42] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-088-075-203-147.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:37:56] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-186-75.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[19:38:00] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:38:11] <tunage> is there a special kernel setting for -> /dev/sda1 on /boot/efi type vfat[19:38:35] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-50ddf8-101.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[19:38:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Lukimya[19:39:48] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ip-90-186-2-63.web.vodafone.de> has joined #manjaro[19:40:19] <tunage> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1485715206.png[19:40:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Rr8G79] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[19:41:13] <tunage> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1485715259.png[19:41:14] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Z1kU76] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[19:41:35] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-066-201-055.088.066.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:41:42] *** Lowl3v3l_ is now known as Lowl3v3l[19:42:25] *** lengeeiomb <lengeeiomb!~lengeeiom@212.112.100.221> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:43:33] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@m83-180-109-175.cust.tele2.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: byezzz)[19:46:59] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1E70202F84AB26E62DBD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:49:44] *** hbx <hbx!498a9687@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.138.150.135> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:51:42] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ip-90-186-2-63.web.vodafone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:53:13] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has joined #manjaro[19:53:54] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[19:54:14] <Rayzake> Hello again, good news, I finally fix my network to able to connect on my live liunx, right now I'm Manjaro. I have to update my driver on my NIC and fix right DNS address.[19:54:33] <Joseph> Rayzake: that is excellent. What was the problem?[19:54:44] <Joseph> I'm not sure if you remember, I tried to troubleshoot it with you yesterday[19:54:46] <Rayzake> unknown. :([19:54:49] <Joseph> And it seemed odd[19:55:07] <Rayzake> yeah I remember you help me, thanks[19:55:13] <Joseph> Curious[19:55:28] <Rayzake> at least it works now[19:55:33] <Joseph> Yeah[19:56:05] *** linda_ <linda_!~linda@2a02:8070:c6a2:4800:4ecc:6aff:fe05:58d1> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:56:09] <Rayzake> Thanks for your help, Joseph.[19:56:15] <Joseph> Sure![20:04:42] <Rayzake> have a good day. :) fun to play with liunx for me. Bye for now.[20:04:56] <Joseph> \o[20:05:16] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:06:09] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets> has joined #manjaro[20:06:49] <physkets> anyone using OpenRC?[20:07:01] <Joseph> Nah, systemd here[20:07:07] <Joseph> But ask your question, maybe someone knows[20:07:36] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[20:10:01] *** mrbinaer <mrbinaer!~mrbinaer@37.120.57.41> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:12:36] <physkets> Joseph: Oh, well, its that I'm unable to reboot. Clicking reboot just puts the laptop in a low-powered state. So then I have to press the physical power button to turn it off.[20:13:53] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:13:58] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-073-020-229.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[20:15:35] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@37.169.238.127> has joined #manjaro[20:15:35] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@37.169.238.127> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:15:35] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has joined #manjaro[20:16:44] *** hbx_ <hbx_!~hbx@174.127.120.62> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[20:17:34] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fixglpernvllpiqr> has joined #manjaro[20:18:07] *** copycat <copycat!~manjaro-i@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:18:20] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2405:204:9786:66d0:c682:3aa3:f6e:d9e6> has joined #manjaro[20:19:26] *** monteguelfo <monteguelfo!~monteguel@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:19:36] *** copycat <copycat!~manjaro-i@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has left #manjaro[20:19:39] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye ALL#)[20:19:40] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has left #manjaro ("leaving")[20:21:37] *** muhammet <muhammet!~muhammetd@213.14.154.77> has joined #manjaro[20:24:50] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@178.128.8.242.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[20:24:55] <muhammet> wifi usb adaptor install help[20:25:02] <muhammet> airties 2411[20:25:09] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[20:25:11] <muhammet> help[20:25:28] *** monteguelfo <monteguelfo!~monteguel@078088031118.dynamic-ra-08.vectranet.pl> has left #manjaro ("leaving")[20:26:10] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@46.246.198.232.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[20:26:20] <mtn> muhammet: is the wifi plugged in?[20:27:46] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[20:28:24] <muhammet> mtn yes[20:28:38] <mtn> muhammet: Please type "inxi -Nnxx" (without the " marks) in a terminal and paste the results to dpaste.com and give us the link.[20:28:47] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyy2y-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[20:30:05] <muhammet> Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller[20:30:05] <muhammet> driver: r8168 v: 8.040.00-NAPI port: c000[20:30:05] <muhammet> bus-ID: 09:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168[20:30:05] <muhammet> IF: enp9s0 state: down mac: 30:85:a9:8f:d5:d7[20:30:29] <mtn> muhammet: is that all of it?[20:31:05] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@mm-110-133-84-93.dynamic.pppoe.mgts.by> has joined #manjaro[20:31:10] <muhammet> yes[20:31:23] <Strit_Laptop> if it's a usb wifi adapter, give us "lsusb"[20:31:28] <mtn> muhammet: then there is no wifi and your ethernet is down, too[20:31:36] <mtn> muhammet: so, how are you on the net/[20:31:41] <mtn> ?[20:31:47] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@178.128.8.242.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[20:32:09] <Joseph> muhammet: is this another system? Because if you're online talking to us, you have to have Internet somewhere[20:32:25] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:32:29] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-50ddf8-101.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:32:46] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@bop179.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:33:20] *** skulltus <skulltus!~veselin@90.154.239.103> has joined #manjaro[20:33:53] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[20:34:00] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:34:25] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[20:34:50] <muhammet> Joseph, Phone usb internet sharing :)[20:35:04] <Joseph> I see, so tethering[20:35:17] *** crzyp3ck <crzyp3ck!~manjaro@unaffiliated/crzyp3ck> has joined #manjaro[20:35:22] <crzyp3ck> hello all again[20:35:39] <crzyp3ck> I found the source of problem[20:35:46] <Joseph> What was it crzyp3ck[20:35:50] <muhammet> lsusb[20:35:55] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has joined #manjaro[20:36:21] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:36:29] <crzyp3ck> I am using liveDVD xfce 16.10.3 (the latest release) i686 Version.[20:36:53] <muhammet> [muhammet-pc muhammet]# lsusb[20:36:53] <muhammet> Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub[20:36:53] <muhammet> Bus 011 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub[20:36:53] <muhammet> Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub[20:36:53] <muhammet> Bus 005 Device 004: ID 04e8:6863 Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd GT-I9500 [Galaxy S4] / GT-I9250 [Galaxy Nexus] (network tethering)[20:36:55] <muhammet> Bus 005 Device 002: ID 045e:0745 Microsoft Corp. Nano Transceiver v1.0 for Bluetooth[20:36:57] <muhammet> Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub[20:36:59] <muhammet> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub[20:37:01] <muhammet> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 14cd:1212 Super Top microSD card reader (SY-T18)[20:37:03] <muhammet> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub[20:37:05] <muhammet> Bus 010 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub[20:37:07] <muhammet> Bus 004 Device 003: ID 1eda:2411 AirTies Wireless Networks[20:37:09] <muhammet> Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub[20:37:11] <muhammet> Bus 009 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub[20:37:12] <crzyp3ck> everything is smooth like now which I am in live medium. but during the install It hangs[20:37:13] <muhammet> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub[20:37:15] <muhammet> Bus 008 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub[20:37:17] <muhammet> [muhammet-pc muhammet]# ^C[20:37:40] <crzyp3ck> and complains about radeon rig sttaled after .....[20:37:42] <muhammet> <muhammet> Bus 004 Device 003: ID 1eda:2411 AirTies Wireless Networks[20:37:42] <Strit_Laptop> muhammet: the kernel sees your wifi adapter. That's good. Then it's just a question of installing the correct driver and modprobing it.[20:37:53] <Joseph> muhammet: Please use a pastebin next time :-/[20:38:04] <crzyp3ck> and installation won't complete.[20:38:23] <mtn> supposedly that card would use a Broadcom BCM43236[20:38:24] <crzyp3ck> you told me that therer is no text based installer anymore.[20:38:36] <crzyp3ck> So any idea how could i install it?[20:38:57] <crzyp3ck> I really like having manjaro xfce on my machine[20:39:07] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2405:204:9786:66d0:c682:3aa3:f6e:d9e6> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:39:08] <Joseph> crzyp3ck: What about the netinstall image? that doesn't load any graphical environment[20:39:14] <muhammet> Strit_Laptop,[20:39:27] <muhammet> teamwievwer[20:39:33] <mtn> muhammet: research how to get the right driver for a Broadcom BCM43236[20:39:34] <Joseph> crzyp3ck: https://manjaro.org/get-manjaro/ <<< "The NET edition of Manjaro provides a base installation without a pre-installed display manager, desktop environment, or any desktop software applications. However, it is in keeping with our user-friendly philosophy."[20:39:36] <muhammet> d[20:39:36] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/7oQpre] Get Manjaro | Manjaro Linux[20:39:42] <muhammet> ?[20:39:49] <mtn> muhammet: the arch wiki should help you[20:40:08] <crzyp3ck> Joseph: net install is old 16.8 and also at the end I don't have any Xfce.[20:40:55] <crzyp3ck> the real odd thing is that every thing is nice and fast (smooth) in Live env.[20:40:58] <Strit_Laptop> crzyp3ck: ofcourse you don't have an xfce. it's a net install.[20:41:14] <Joseph> crzyp3ck: As I pasted from Manjaro's own site, of course you don't have Xfce[20:41:36] <crzyp3ck> Strit_Laptop: yup. So any idea why the graphic card bugs the install not the live env?[20:41:38] *** TheHermitSage <TheHermitSage!~Manjaro-D@218.248.46.107> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:41:39] <Joseph> crzyp3ck: You said you wanted CLI to try and install it manually to see if it works?[20:42:03] <Strit_Laptop> crzyp3ck: Wrong driver installed maybe?[20:42:07] <muhammet> I do not understand the problem I am a friend to make a distant connection[20:42:40] <crzyp3ck> Strit_Laptop: how could I find that out? (test your theory?)[20:43:09] <Strit_Laptop> crzyp3ck: if yoiu have booted/installed with free drivers, try the nonfree option instead[20:43:30] <crzyp3ck> it is radeon 9250 with 256MB DDRAM and 128bit tv out[20:44:13] <crzyp3ck> the card in question is connected via AGP 4X[20:44:26] *** physkets <physkets!~physkets@unaffiliated/physkets> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[20:44:45] *** Dearu <Dearu!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[20:45:10] <crzyp3ck> Strit_Laptop: do you thing this ATI radeon card has non free drivers?[20:45:45] <Strit_Laptop> crzyp3ck: nope, sounds to old.[20:46:07] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@mm-110-133-84-93.dynamic.pppoe.mgts.by> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:46:15] <Joseph> That's an ancient card[20:46:28] <crzyp3ck> Strit_Laptop: and again I booted live ok. why the installation would halt.[20:46:32] <Joseph> I'm on Ubuntu's page and they also say it's too old to render their Unity interface[20:46:49] <Strit_Laptop> crzyp3ck: what error does it stop with?[20:46:50] <crzyp3ck> radeon ..rig....stalled after ....[20:47:08] <crzyp3ck> ^^[20:47:21] <Strit_Laptop> Stalled is very vague.[20:47:46] <crzyp3ck> Joseph: it renders xfce very nice. I thing it is a kms issue.[20:47:49] *** skulltus <skulltus!~veselin@90.154.239.103> has quit IRC ()[20:47:51] <Strit_Laptop> Have you tried letting it run for some time?[20:47:53] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt3 <Manj-1611-Lxqt3!~j@48.147.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #manjaro[20:48:01] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt3 <Manj-1611-Lxqt3!~j@48.147.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:48:10] <Joseph> crzyp3ck: Yes; the Ubuntu page does say to use Lubuntu or Xubuntu (LXDE and, indeed, Xfce flavors)[20:48:16] <Joseph> (For that card I mean)[20:48:29] <Joseph> Unityi was the issue[20:48:30] <Joseph> Unity*[20:48:31] <crzyp3ck> Strit_Laptop: is 30 min ok?[20:48:58] <Joseph> crzyp3ck: Do you see any lights indicating activity when this happens. Hard drive light, etc[20:49:01] <Strit_Laptop> crzyp3ck: I've had installs go on for over an hour before completing.[20:49:18] <crzyp3ck> could I just copy paste the / to the HDD all except /proc /dev /sys ?[20:49:31] <crzyp3ck> the / of the live DVD[20:49:53] <crzyp3ck> then chroot to the hdd and install grub?[20:50:12] <Strit_Laptop> No idea. Never tried it.[20:50:39] *** skulltus <skulltus!~john@90.154.239.103> has joined #manjaro[20:51:29] <crzyp3ck> if I go with net install 16.8 could I update to 16.10?[20:52:19] <Strit_Laptop> SHould be doable. :)[20:52:27] <crzyp3ck> and by installing xfce on netinstall version. do I get what I have here? or a vanilla barebone xfce? no manjaro specific bells and wistles?[20:52:48] <Strit_Laptop> barebone xfce.[20:52:53] *** space_otter <space_otter!~space_ott@2602:306:32e8:cf60:a284:ed24:cb0f:59> has joined #manjaro[20:53:13] <Strit_Laptop> If you want manjaro's theme, you need to install manjaro-xfce-settings and the themes it uses.[20:54:26] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[20:54:56] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[20:55:07] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[20:55:10] *** nicholasf 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<robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[21:24:34] *** Thorax <Thorax!~Thorax@94.197.121.123.threembb.co.uk> has joined #manjaro[21:24:50] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:25:02] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:25:40] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@pool-71-185-73-61.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[21:26:14] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[21:27:02] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye ALL#)[21:27:57] <inahd> i would really like to get netflix working without installing chrome.[21:28:19] <inahd> nothing like netflix-desktop or moonlight are working[21:28:45] <Celmor> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Firefox/Tweaks#Widevine_and_Netflix.2FAmazon_Video[21:28:46] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/XZoIiQ] Firefox/Tweaks - ArchWiki[21:29:38] <inahd> i did try to follow those instructions. maybe i added the useragent info wrong?[21:30:40] <inahd> when i choose a movie, netflix just asks me to install firefox[21:30:44] <inahd> er[21:30:47] <inahd> silverlight[21:31:30] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-073-020-229.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:31:31] *** twar <twar!~twar@80.51.98.72> has quit IRC (Quit: "Bye")[21:31:46] <badbodh> make comic sans great again https://uploadpie.com/cJFUeC[21:32:23] <Jeannie> Nobody makes anything great again, that's just an alt fact[21:33:31] <inahd> make believe things great again![21:36:04] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@77-254-69-166.adsl.inetia.pl> has joined #manjaro[21:36:14] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@bzq-84-109-33-169.cablep.bezeqint.net> has joined #manjaro[21:38:18] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[21:42:57] <badbodh> :P[21:43:23] <badbodh> then again, i'm using alternative office[21:43:41] <Vlado9A> whichone?[21:43:48] <Joseph> Are those like "alternative facts"?[21:43:50] <Joseph> ;-)[21:43:56] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@bzq-84-109-33-169.cablep.bezeqint.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:44:14] <badbodh> Vlado9A, https://uploadpie.com/cJFUeC[21:44:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/x3t33Z] Upload Pie - The Simple Image Sharing Tool[21:44:31] <Vlado9A> let me see :) ...[21:44:42] <Joseph> oh, you're using Wine or something to run MS Word?[21:45:57] <badbodh> duh[21:46:15] <inahd> thats the comic part[21:46:31] <inahd> and sans rocks.[21:47:04] <linux_dream> hey people im trying to compile tor-browser-en from the aur. i get please add $VISUAL in the variables message . should i do this or not[21:47:04] <inahd> (there are no rocks)[21:47:57] <Joseph> linux_dream: Why not just do this? https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en#linux[21:47:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EAHPrb] Tor Browser[21:48:38] <linux_dream> Joseph, because then pacman will not regonize when it's out of date[21:48:43] <Joseph> linux_dream: ...[21:48:44] <linux_dream> or yaourt[21:48:55] <Joseph> linux_dream: Tor Browser automatically updates itself when you start it[21:49:04] <linux_dream> oh[21:49:25] <Joseph> linux_dream: It will tell you it's out of date and then you tell it to get new version[21:49:34] <Joseph> Works like a charm all the time.[21:50:39] <linux_dream> Joseph, you convinced me[21:50:47] <Joseph> ;)[21:50:48] <linux_dream> ill do it that way[21:51:27] <linux_dream> sudo pacman -Rs tor-browser-en just in case[21:51:37] <linux_dream> so that nothing mixes up[21:52:04] *** Sv1 <Sv1!~sveinn@42-83-126-149.ftth.simafelagid.is> has joined #manjaro[21:52:53] *** Sv1 <Sv1!~sveinn@42-83-126-149.ftth.simafelagid.is> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:52:55] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@93-82-26-242.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[21:53:19] *** manjaro-kde5-- 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<skulltus!~john@90.154.239.103> has quit IRC ()[22:04:48] *** muhammet <muhammet!~muhammetd@213.14.154.77> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:06:13] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[22:06:17] <linux_dream> Joseph, im having a prob[22:06:36] <linux_dream> permissions problem to run the .desktop[22:06:42] <linux_dream> i have chmoded the file[22:06:55] <linux_dream> but i now get : /usr/bin/env: ‘./Browser/execdesktop’: Permission denied[22:07:06] <linux_dream> and the website clearly state not to use sudo[22:07:15] <linux_dream> so how do i overcome this problem without invoking sudo?[22:08:24] *** manjaro-mate <manjaro-mate!~manjaro-m@46.166.190.179> has joined #manjaro[22:08:50] <simpleauthority> linux_dream, http://tor.stackexchange.com/questions/9935/cannot-open-tor-browser-using-terminal[22:08:52] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/PWSzVR] directory - Cannot open Tor Browser using Terminal - Tor Stack Exchange[22:09:08] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:09:17] *** manjaro-mate <manjaro-mate!~manjaro-m@46.166.190.179> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:09:27] <simpleauthority> the .desktop is a desktop icon, you need the bash executable in the Browser/ directory[22:09:31] <Joseph> linux_dream: the way I run it is, I browse to tor-browser_en-US/Browser/[22:09:43] <Joseph> linux_dream: and I run the start-tor-browser in here[22:10:06] <Joseph> This first starts the Tor daemon, configures it, and then runs their modded version of Firefox[22:10:23] <linux_dream> oh i see[22:11:34] <linux_dream> hmm nothing happens?[22:11:46] <linux_dream> i ran the start-tor-browser, command returns no output[22:11:46] <Joseph> ?[22:11:55] <linux_dream> localhost% ./start-tor-browser[22:11:55] <linux_dream> localhost%[22:11:57] *** hbx <hbx!~hbx@199.195.192.130> has joined #manjaro[22:12:05] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[22:12:21] <Joseph> huh. Didn't the Tor configuring screen show up[22:12:25] <linux_dream> no[22:12:36] <Joseph> It should first show a screen that says that Tor is establishing a connection[22:12:37] <Joseph> Huh weird[22:12:53] <hbx> Loving Manjaro[22:12:58] *** manjaro-web|9652 <manjaro-web|9652!62e81084@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.98.232.16.132> has joined #manjaro[22:12:59] <hbx> Very nice distro[22:13:27] <linux_dream> just tried with bash instead of zsh. same problem[22:13:45] <rhg135> one of the best imo, hbx[22:13:59] <simpleauthority> linux_dream,[22:14:06] <simpleauthority> what is your current working directoryt[22:14:10] <hbx> yea its very stable and rock solid[22:14:17] <rhg135> best as in I can get things done on it[22:14:25] <rhg135> low maintenance[22:14:35] <linux_dream> its /home/linux_dream/Downloads/tor-browser-en/tor-browser_en-US/Browser[22:14:40] <Joseph> linux_dream: hm, and what happens if in the GUI, in "tor-browser_en-US" directory you click on "Tor Browser"[22:14:44] <simpleauthority> and what command are you attempting to run linux_dream[22:14:52] <hbx> coming over from Debian/Slack/Gentoo/OpenBSD...its very intuitive...[22:14:56] <linux_dream> ./start-tor-browser[22:15:10] <hbx> I still rely on my Mac as my production machine[22:15:13] <simpleauthority> not using start-tor-browser.desktop right?[22:15:18] <linux_dream> right simpleauthority[22:15:20] <hbx> But Manjaro will do just fine on my laptop[22:15:26] <simpleauthority> okay what's the output you're getting?[22:15:30] <hbx> bbl[22:15:33] *** stibbi <stibbi!~Marc@ip-176-199-238-178.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[22:15:36] <linux_dream> no output as if the command worked simpleauthority[22:15:36] <Joseph> That's the thing, they aren't getting an output[22:15:41] <simpleauthority> Oh, huh[22:15:48] <Joseph> Yeah not sure what's up with that[22:15:54] <simpleauthority> Got multiple monitors?[22:15:57] <linux_dream> no[22:16:02] <simpleauthority> Is it on a different workspace?[22:16:06] <linux_dream> im on a laptop. tor browser used to work before[22:16:12] <linux_dream> until it broke in the aur[22:16:21] <simpleauthority> pacman -Rcns packagename[22:16:21] <linux_dream> no i have 1 worksapce[22:16:23] <simpleauthority> then try reinstall?[22:16:31] <linux_dream> i did pacman -Rs tor-browser-en[22:16:36] <Joseph> Wait wait[22:16:57] <Joseph> Why did you use pacman to get it? Didn't I tell you before to it from the Tor project and unpack it?[22:16:58] <Joseph> o.0[22:17:04] <linux_dream> before downloading tor browser from joseph link i took care to uninstall tor browser from the aur with pacman[22:17:13] <Joseph> Oh you uninstalled it I see[22:17:16] <linux_dream> yes[22:17:33] <simpleauthority> Try -Rcns though, that removes unnecessary dependencies as well[22:17:37] <Joseph> ^[22:17:43] <Joseph> Maybe some remnant is blocking it[22:18:12] <simpleauthority> and also try sudo pacman -R $(pacman -Qdtq), that will remove installed packages which are now unneeded. Similar to apt autoremove[22:18:15] <linux_dream> error: target not found: tor-browser-en[22:18:30] <simpleauthority> use the one I just sent[22:18:36] <simpleauthority> since tor-browser-en is now nor a target[22:18:39] <simpleauthority> not*[22:18:44] <Joseph> linux_dream: it isn;t installed anymore[22:18:50] <linux_dream> im worried this will erase important packages[22:19:10] <simpleauthority> pacman -Qdtq only lists packages that are 1) dependencies and 2) not being used[22:19:16] <Joseph> linux_dream: No, I think it will be fine[22:19:16] <linux_dream> pacman -Qdtq displays tons of packages like cmake[22:19:24] <simpleauthority> which is not being used atym[22:19:36] <simpleauthority> you don't have to use it lol, just trying to help :) it's a cleanup command[22:19:44] <Joseph> linux_dream: It's like autoremove on a Debian-based distro[22:19:52] <linux_dream> i know but i see tons of packages like maia-theme[22:20:11] <Joseph> ...what[22:20:14] <simpleauthority> Didn't remove maia-theme on my install[22:20:18] <linux_dream> and packages like openjpeg[22:20:18] <linux_dream> python-path[22:20:18] <linux_dream> python2-netifaces[22:20:18] <linux_dream> python2-sphinx[22:20:18] <linux_dream> python2-sympy[22:20:19] <simpleauthority> You did run exactly what I said right[22:20:33] <Joseph> You did copy and paste exactly what simpleauthority said, right?[22:20:43] <simpleauthority> https://f.penqu.in/012917132039.png[22:20:44] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/iZcJHy] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[22:20:45] <simpleauthority> That's all I see[22:20:56] <linux_dream> i ran pacman -Qdtq like i wrote above[22:21:16] <linux_dream> i dont want to delete those packages, for sure[22:21:16] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@dih241.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:21:21] <simpleauthority> Okay, reinstall tor-browser-en from aur[22:21:25] <simpleauthority> then pacman -Rcns tor-browser-en[22:21:27] <linux_dream> ok[22:21:39] <Joseph> I just tried that on my netbook[22:21:42] <linux_dream> wait but it will fail[22:21:49] <Joseph> It didn't give me any maia theme to uninstall[22:21:50] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[22:21:51] <Joseph> ;-/[22:21:52] <linux_dream> tor-browser-en from aur fails to install[22:21:57] <superbia> avond Joseph[22:22:03] <Joseph> superbia: What?[22:22:13] <simpleauthority> Why will it fail linux_dream[22:22:17] <Joseph> linux_dream: And why is that?[22:22:18] <superbia> Joseph: evening[22:22:24] <Joseph> superbia: Ah! Evening :)[22:22:31] <superbia> Joseph: how are you mate[22:22:34] <linux_dream> coz yaourt asks me to add $VISUAL like i wrote above[22:22:43] <linux_dream> in some file[22:22:55] *** ziggys <ziggys!~ziggys@gateway/tor-sasl/ziggys> has joined #manjaro[22:23:00] <linux_dream> and then you suggested me to use the tor browser from website[22:23:00] <simpleauthority> That's setting your default visual editor[22:23:06] <simpleauthority> just type in terminal VISUAL=nano[22:23:12] <linux_dream> i did that^^[22:23:14] *** anonyth <anonyth!~manjaro-k@c-24-21-113-228.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:23:40] <simpleauthority> linux_dream, https://f.penqu.in/012917132336.png[22:23:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/O2gJrw] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[22:23:44] <simpleauthority> In that same terminal, run the AUR[22:24:12] *** manjaro-web|3449 <manjaro-web|3449!bdcbbcad@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.203.188.173> has joined #manjaro[22:24:21] <manjaro-web|3449> Hi can help ??[22:24:27] <linux_dream> done simpleauthority[22:24:55] <simpleauthority> You should add export VISUAL=nano in .zprofile (zsh?) or .profile[22:25:03] <simpleauthority> Now yaourt should be fine[22:25:29] <superbia> manjaro-web|3449: sure[22:25:37] <Celmor> also, don't use yaourt, use pacaur[22:25:43] <linux_dream> im using cower now[22:25:43] <Joseph> superbia: not bad![22:25:47] <linux_dream> same as pacaur[22:25:47] <simpleauthority> What's wrong with yaourt? :p[22:25:57] <Joseph> Celmor: Why not yaourt?[22:26:10] *** brylaaa <brylaaa!~manjaro-k@31-178-86-97.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:26:11] <linux_dream> just slow to download it.... only 10%[22:26:20] <manjaro-web|3449> need help[22:26:20] <simpleauthority> slow mirror?[22:26:44] <simpleauthority> linux_dream, sudo pacman-mirrors -g[22:26:49] <manjaro-web|3449> can not install audacity[22:26:51] <manjaro-web|3449> help[22:26:53] <simpleauthority> will regenerate your mirrors[22:26:56] <simpleauthority> manjaro-kde5, why[22:26:58] <simpleauthority> what's happening[22:27:00] <linux_dream> yeah did that simpleauthority[22:27:06] <Celmor> yaourt is less secure, checks less, less features...[22:27:07] <linux_dream> 110 kB/s[22:27:16] <linux_dream> 17%[22:27:21] <simpleauthority> maybe sudo pacman-mirrors --geoip -g[22:27:26] <simpleauthority> that will detect your location[22:27:29] <tunage> I've compiled the kernel so much today, I feel like I'm on Gentoo...[22:27:31] <simpleauthority> or set country manually --country[22:27:36] <simpleauthority> tunage, :D[22:27:41] <Celmor> Joseph, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers#Comparison_table[22:27:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/SyAfM3] AUR helpers - ArchWiki[22:27:44] <linux_dream> tried that, same slowness[22:27:45] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-088-075-203-147.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:28:03] <simpleauthority> I'm on the vfio kernel from the AUR D: Had to compile again and again for a new dkms module to activate due to default to manjaro kernel D:[22:28:04] <linux_dream> time left around 8 mins to download[22:28:19] <Joseph> Celmor: Interesting[22:28:24] <Joseph> linux_dream: *zzzzzzz*[22:28:37] <simpleauthority> That's very interesting lol[22:28:42] <simpleauthority> I never saw that table[22:28:52] <Joseph> Me neither[22:28:53] <Joseph> o.0[22:29:12] <simpleauthority> Well yay, apparently yaourt is the worst option Joseph[22:29:12] <simpleauthority> :D[22:29:15] <simpleauthority> Been using it since day 1[22:29:17] <simpleauthority> No ragrets[22:29:21] *** manjaro-web|3449 <manjaro-web|3449!bdcbbcad@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.203.188.173> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:30:12] <simpleauthority> Anyway, going afk. Good luck linux_dream[22:30:18] <linux_dream> ok thanks simpleauthority[22:32:09] <Celmor> Joseph, arch wiki also recirects to that page now when searching for yaourt and deleted any other yaourt references[22:33:37] <linux_dream> 88%...[22:33:54] *** rorro <rorro!~rorro@h-170-152-58.a163.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[22:34:06] <linux_dream> let's see how makepkg -ics does the job[22:34:41] <linux_dream> ==> ERROR: One or more PGP signatures could not be verified![22:34:57] <simpleauthority> You need their public key[22:35:32] <linux_dream> gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys D1483FA6C3C07136[22:35:59] <simpleauthority> Make sure it's not a revoked public key[22:36:05] <linux_dream> oh my dog it seems to be working[22:36:39] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@88.147.36.4> has joined #manjaro[22:37:55] <linux_dream> that worked[22:38:00] <linux_dream> and tor browser works fine[22:38:03] <simpleauthority> linux_dream, humor me[22:38:06] <simpleauthority> gpg --list-keys | grep D1483FA6C3C07136[22:38:08] <simpleauthority> what's it say[22:38:26] <linux_dream> no output[22:38:32] <simpleauthority> o[22:38:35] <linux_dream> anyway that worked[22:38:37] <simpleauthority> You didn't import it?[22:38:41] <linux_dream> no idea[22:38:46] <simpleauthority> ANyway doesn't appear to be revoked anyway so you're good[22:38:48] <linux_dream> but tor browser is up and running[22:38:53] <simpleauthority> In future make sure you don't import a revoked key :) linux_dream[22:38:56] <simpleauthority> cool, have fun on tor[22:39:00] <linux_dream> thanks[22:40:02] <Joseph> linux_dream: Excellent[22:40:08] <Joseph> linux_dream: Enjoy :)[22:40:35] <superbia> Joseph: likewise[22:40:58] <linux_dream> now why is javascript ENABLED by default is beyond me[22:41:10] <simpleauthority> I agree with thatg[22:41:10] <linux_dream> i have to disable it via noscript add on[22:41:20] <simpleauthority> about:config, javascript.enabled =>[22:41:22] <simpleauthority> set it to false[22:42:16] *** brylaaa <brylaaa!~manjaro-k@31-178-86-97.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[22:42:37] <Joseph> I start to sweat bullets when JS is enabled in a browser[22:43:35] <linux_dream> simpleauthority, if i do that will that make a fingerprint almost unique?[22:44:01] <simpleauthority> It shouldn't[22:44:02] <linux_dream> but the noscript addon is supposed to do something equivalent so i wont do that[22:44:08] <simpleauthority> It just disables JS in the browser w/o an addon[22:44:12] <simpleauthority> PL[22:44:14] <simpleauthority> OK*[22:44:26] <linux_dream> in firefox if i do that then im toasted[22:44:33] <linux_dream> coz this breaks websites[22:44:35] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:44:53] <simpleauthority> Well yes, JS being disabled does break some websites because of JS dependence[22:44:54] <linux_dream> generally i allow some js with firefox, only from websites i visit frequently[22:45:14] <simpleauthority> Do what ya wanna do :) If it works, it works. If not, find another way![22:45:15] <simpleauthority> ;)[22:45:17] <simpleauthority> AFK again[22:45:21] <linux_dream> ok[22:46:10] <linux_dream> are you guys hardware geeks?[22:46:17] <Joseph> Not really[22:46:18] <linux_dream> coz im buying pc parts to build a pc[22:46:26] <Joseph> Most I've done is swap out RAM in a laptop[22:46:26] <Joseph> :-D[22:46:37] <simpleauthority> I build computers a lot[22:46:42] <linux_dream> talking about swap[22:46:55] <simpleauthority> Not here hardly enough right now to help with parts tho[22:46:58] <linux_dream> i realized that manjaro uses default 0 or so (For swapiness) wtf?[22:47:12] <simpleauthority> bc it's up to you[22:47:14] <simpleauthority> vm.swappiness[22:47:26] <linux_dream> default on all other linux distro is 60 for good reasons[22:47:34] <Joseph> linux_dream: hardly surprising, given that Manjaro is based on Arch[22:47:39] <Joseph> linux_dream: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/swap[22:47:39] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/XXK2tP] Swap - ArchWiki[22:47:47] <linux_dream> 0 is fine for people with a lot of RAM and who dont care about some slow downs[22:48:07] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:48:13] <Joseph> Yeah, but on low-RAM systems and/or systems where you're doing some stuff like video processing, you may want it on[22:48:20] <simpleauthority> Well I just noticed mine is 60, and I never changed it myself[22:48:23] <simpleauthority> So idk why yours is 0[22:48:29] *** stibbi <stibbi!~Marc@ip-176-199-238-178.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:48:43] <simpleauthority> Actually, it might be part of the vfio kernel I'm running. Maybe 0 is Manjaro default.[22:48:45] <linux_dream> i saw a file called swapiness_manjaro or something like that, with a 0 inside[22:49:03] <linux_dream> and indeed it was the default of my manjaro installation[22:49:09] <linux_dream> i set it to 20[22:49:12] <simpleauthority> Well change it then :)[22:49:13] <simpleauthority> Cool[22:50:52] <linux_dream> see you guys and thanks for all[22:50:58] <linux_dream> ill come back 1 day[22:51:01] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:51:01] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:51:27] *** Sv1 <Sv1!~sveinn@42-83-126-149.ftth.simafelagid.is> has joined #manjaro[22:52:55] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-088-075-203-147.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[22:53:26] *** Sv1 <Sv1!~sveinn@42-83-126-149.ftth.simafelagid.is> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:53:43] *** Sv1 <Sv1!~sveinn@42-83-126-149.ftth.simafelagid.is> has joined #manjaro[22:54:21] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@88.147.36.4> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:55:05] *** deadguy <deadguy!~alex@190.55.44.132> has joined #manjaro[22:55:18] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[22:55:37] <inahd> im trying to pick out a small clicky keyboard[22:55:39] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132119149.public.t-mobile.at> has joined #manjaro[22:55:56] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[22:55:59] <simpleauthority> inahd, do you have a price range?[22:56:10] <inahd> up to $150[22:56:18] <simpleauthority> what kind of usage?[22:56:26] <inahd> typing[22:56:33] <simpleauthority> right[22:56:34] <simpleauthority> but[22:56:42] <inahd> travelling?[22:56:48] <simpleauthority> What do you use a computer for? Games, programming, general typing? What kind of keyboard[22:57:02] <inahd> just typing really[22:57:08] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:57:09] *** bmahjoub <bmahjoub!c5025ca9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.197.2.92.169> has joined #manjaro[22:57:09] <superbia> inahd: hi hi hi ih h ih i hi ih[22:57:15] <superbia> inahd: where were you[22:57:19] <inahd> um[22:57:23] <inahd> hi![22:57:24] <superbia> inahd: what country are you from[22:57:27] <bmahjoub> hi[22:57:28] <inahd> us[22:57:32] <superbia> hi bmahjoub[22:57:33] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:57:44] <superbia> inahd: hit amazon.com and look for pok3r mx clears[22:58:18] <simpleauthority> inahd, https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA4UB2HX0008[22:58:21] <simpleauthority> How's that look?[22:58:23] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/nJvLF7] DSI Modular Mac USB Keyboard with Red Cherry Mechanical Key Switches-Newegg.com[22:58:47] <rhg135> is the radeon 7660G not SI or does linux49 not build it for SI?[22:59:04] <rhg135> amdgpu kernel module won't load[22:59:10] <inahd> simpleauthority, looks big :p[22:59:17] <simpleauthority> :p[22:59:28] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:59:30] <simpleauthority> inahd, http://www.corsair.com/en-us/corsair-gaming-k65-rgb-compact-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-ch-9000222-na More gaming centric, but good build quality[22:59:31] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:59:32] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/eUiRzs] Corsair Gaming K65 RGB Compact Mechanical Gaming Keyboard[22:59:51] *** manjaro-web|9652 <manjaro-web|9652!62e81084@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.98.232.16.132> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:59:58] <simpleauthority> Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition is also quite small, I use that one[23:00:00] <inahd> i'm even looking at 35% board size[23:00:08] <inahd> like stupid small[23:00:08] <simpleauthority> Oh you want very very small/[23:00:17] <inahd> maybe up to 60[23:00:20] <bmahjoub> please how can i get yaourt working in manjaro 17 beta it ask me for fakeroot[23:00:40] <inahd> but for traveling and typing[23:00:49] <simpleauthority> inahd, https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAC335923204[23:00:53] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Ods7fw] Vortex Core Mechanical Keyboard (Brown Cherry MX) - Newegg.com[23:01:01] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-186-75.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:01:13] <rhg135> install the base-devel group, bmahjoub[23:01:18] <inahd> yes totally like that.[23:01:33] <simpleauthority> inahd, https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100160863%20600009662%20600009667%20600482671 Here's the whole listing w/ those filters applied[23:01:33] <rhg135> it should have been installed, but beta[23:01:37] <superbia> inahd: liked the pok3r[23:01:37] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ieX2oS] Yes, Mini, USB, Keyboards, Input Devices, Computer Systems - Newegg.com[23:02:00] <superbia> inahd: hit the #geekhack and #mechboards here on freenode, people will help you if you join there[23:02:02] <inahd> only since i type dvorak, my inclination is towards blank keycaps. or caps printed simply with primary funciton[23:02:12] <superbia> dvorak is shit[23:02:13] <inahd> that sounds cool[23:02:16] <inahd> haha[23:02:21] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has joined #manjaro[23:02:27] <superbia> join the shai colemak club[23:02:35] <superbia> with dreymar mods[23:02:37] <inahd> i have heard of this colemak[23:02:52] <simpleauthority> yeah sorry newegg doesn't have a format filter :( i tried[23:02:55] <inahd> been typing dvorak for like 12 years now though[23:03:42] <superbia> inahd: time to update[23:03:47] <inahd> lol[23:03:52] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[23:03:56] <superbia> dvorak is 60 years old[23:04:04] <superbia> colemak-dreymar edition is 1 year old[23:04:13] <inahd> what is the idea with it?[23:04:13] <superbia> modified for coding and english language[23:04:17] <inahd> ah[23:04:23] <superbia> its mostly for coding[23:04:38] <inahd> i can't say i do much coding...[23:04:40] <superbia> basically you won't hear people talking about it[23:04:50] <superbia> so you only heared it from me..[23:04:51] <inahd> would like to though![23:04:58] <superbia> your brain will get fucked[23:05:18] <inahd> ... in a good way?[23:05:59] <rhg135> dvp is decent[23:07:13] <superbia> inahd: google colemak-dh[23:07:15] <rhg135> can't you just be glad to not be using qwerty full-time[23:07:16] <superbia> it's what i use[23:07:24] <superbia> i get 100+ wpm with it[23:07:31] <superbia> after 2 years of use[23:09:39] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@a83-132-55-18.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #manjaro[23:10:06] <superbia> also every keyboard layout has its own irc hole[23:10:17] <superbia> #dvorak is the largest though :)[23:11:44] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@dih241.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[23:16:27] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:20:32] <inahd> hmm superbia, i think i like dvorak layout better[23:21:47] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[23:21:58] <inahd> colemak just seems very similar to dvorak, but reversed[23:23:42] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:25:15] <superbia> well[23:25:25] <superbia> inahd: i told you stock colemak is shit[23:25:33] <superbia> pro's use flavours of colemak[23:26:01] <inahd> i see[23:27:01] <inahd> i can't really see a benefit to switching my layout, but maybe a different dvorak flavour would appeal to me when i get a new keyboard[23:27:56] <inahd> i have been overly obsessed with getting a keyboard lately. i think i would like an ortholinear style to try[23:29:18] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[23:31:11] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@77-254-69-166.adsl.inetia.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:31:25] <superbia> inahd: ask #mechboards and #geekhack guys[23:31:38] <superbia> inahd: you and me are the only 2 that want to talk keyboards in this place :)[23:32:39] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:32:42] <inahd> talk is cheap ;)[23:33:24] <superbia> i do have some sweet music to share with you[23:33:30] <inahd> nice[23:33:33] <superbia> if you like passionate instrumental classical music[23:33:36] <inahd> sure[23:33:39] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[23:33:42] <superbia> do you like piazolla[23:33:57] <inahd> i primarily listen to Indian Classical Music[23:34:11] <superbia> native american?[23:34:20] <Joseph> ...[23:34:25] <Joseph> India is a country, superbia[23:34:32] <Joseph> You know, next to Pakistan, below China[23:34:33] <Joseph> :P[23:35:05] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:35:29] <superbia> Joseph: switzerland is an island in europe...[23:35:48] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@p4FE71F36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[23:35:52] <Joseph> What/[23:35:54] <Joseph> ?[23:36:02] <inahd> native american music is cool too[23:36:15] <superbia> i know inahd was indian[23:36:19] <superbia> but i had no idea he is in usa now[23:36:27] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@p4FE71F36.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:36:31] <superbia> inahd: did you once got onto skype with us[23:36:31] <Joseph> Ah[23:36:33] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[23:36:40] *** bmahjoub <bmahjoub!c5025ca9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.197.2.92.169> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[23:37:06] *** TimPlaz <TimPlaz!43f8a944@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.248.169.68> has joined #manjaro[23:37:31] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[23:38:00] <superbia> inahd: were you on skype with us once?[23:38:04] <inahd> superbia, not that i remember...[23:38:21] <superbia> inahd: it was with that goat Marroccan[23:38:30] <superbia> inahd: you might have been riding in a train[23:38:31] <inahd> goat what what?[23:38:34] *** enkeys_ <enkeys_!~enkeys@novlen.lit.rev-fortech.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[23:38:39] <Joseph> ...hat goat Marroccan?[23:38:41] <Joseph> What[23:38:53] <superbia> inahd: was skype/hangouts[23:39:12] <inahd> i skyped with someone once[23:39:25] <inahd> years ago...[23:39:42] <superbia> was like 1-2 years ago[23:39:50] <superbia> you were traveling in a bus/train[23:39:55] <tunage> how do I get xorg-server 1.6 installed? is there and upsteam repo?[23:41:00] <inahd> i was travelling..?[23:41:07] <superbia> you were skyping on the go[23:41:09] <superbia> if you were that[23:41:10] <inahd> hmm[23:41:16] <superbia> i forgot who we talked to actually[23:41:19] <superbia> but was a group chat[23:41:33] <superbia> possible you were in india back then xD[23:41:39] <inahd> i wish![23:41:41] <Celmor> tunage, why would you need 1.6? isn't the current one (1.19.1-1) newer?[23:41:46] <inahd> haven't been in like 12 years[23:42:16] <TimPlaz> manjaro newbie....is updating to 'real time' kernel recommended?[23:42:21] <tunage> Celmor: I might of misread the error[23:42:24] <tunage> configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server >= 1.6 xproto fontsproto pixman-1 >= 0.24 ) were not met: No package 'xorg-server' found[23:42:58] *** Guifre <Guifre!250f5b4e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.15.91.78> has joined #manjaro[23:43:08] <Celmor> do you have xorg-server installed at all?[23:43:12] <superbia> TimPlaz: don't upgrade if you don't have time to fix your system[23:43:28] <tunage> Celmor: yes extra/xorg-server 1.19.1-1 (xorg) [installed][23:43:47] <tunage> and the dev libraries[23:43:50] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAE44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:44:12] <Celmor> what about pixman?[23:44:21] <Celmor> and xproto fontsproto[23:44:34] <tunage> extra/pixman 0.34.0-1 [installed][23:44:37] <tunage> all there[23:44:54] <tunage> extra/fontsproto 2.1.3-1 [installed][23:45:17] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[23:45:19] <tunage> extra/xproto 7.0.31-1 [installed][23:45:27] <Guifre> what is the suitable packa to install samba into Mmanjaro XFCE[23:45:33] <Guifre> ?[23:45:57] <Guifre> Helle :P[23:47:09] <superbia> Guifre: sudo pacman -S samba[23:48:34] *** TimPlaz <TimPlaz!43f8a944@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.67.248.169.68> has left #manjaro[23:49:34] <Guifre> ok thx![23:49:50] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:49:57] *** manjaro-web|2973 <manjaro-web|2973!bffa8008@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.191.250.128.8> has joined #manjaro[23:50:00] <Guifre> and any package to share?[23:50:12] *** manjaro-web|2973 <manjaro-web|2973!bffa8008@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.191.250.128.8> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:50:20] *** floown <floown!~quassel@2a02-8420-5a09-be00-007a-9c5d-0085-9a69.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[23:50:20] *** floown <floown!~quassel@2a02-8420-5a09-be00-007a-9c5d-0085-9a69.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[23:50:20] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has joined #manjaro[23:51:08] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:51:32] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[23:51:39] <superbia> Guifre: do you have youtube[23:52:40] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[23:52:58] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@cpe-67-248-169-68.nycap.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[23:53:01] <Guifre> yes[23:53:22] <superbia> Guifre: there's our friend that does youtube channel about usefull linux software, something you would never know existed[23:53:31] <Joseph> superbia: Link?[23:53:34] <superbia> his channel is called "Gotbletu"[23:53:40] <superbia> just search gotbletu linux[23:53:43] <superbia> you will find him[23:54:43] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:55:19] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@cpe-67-248-169-68.nycap.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:55:23] <Guifre> superbia: fine![23:55:41] <superbia> Guifre: he is my mentour...[23:57:09] <deadguy> i hear he hangs out in irc somewhere, not sure where though[23:57:17] <Guifre> Thank you! I'll take a look![23:57:24] <superbia> deadguy: #archlinux ^_^[23:57:34] <deadguy> oh, there you go[23:57:48] <superbia> fuck.[23:57:51] <superbia> i fucked up[23:57:53] <superbia> he aint online[23:58:45] <superbia> deadguy: he was actually in #manjaro a year ago[23:59:03] <superbia> deadguy: he probly looses too much time on irc, so he unregged[23:59:22] <deadguy> ha, probably. if you check his old videos you can see him all over the place :D