January 28, 2017 
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January 28, 2017 [00:00:00] <manjaro-kde5-> my flash sound gone..[00:00:14] <NanoSector> why do you use flash[00:00:27] * NanoSector hands manjaro-kde5- a torch[00:00:28] <NanoSector> burn it down[00:00:28] <manjaro-kde5-> i mean youtube¨[00:00:39] *** Digitteknohippie <Digitteknohippie!~user@fsf/member/digit> has quit IRC (Quit: refreshing. brb. dont talk behind my back while i'm gone.)[00:00:43] *** enp0s3 is now known as enp3s3u3f3[00:00:46] *** Ayumu <Ayumu!bdcbbcad@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.203.188.173> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:00:51] <Celmor> does a different browser work?[00:00:55] <NanoSector> enp3s3u3f3, did systemd touch you?[00:01:00] <manjaro-kde5-> youtube sound disappeared, rebooted no difference[00:01:08] *** Digit <Digit!~user@fsf/member/digit> has joined #manjaro[00:01:14] <manjaro-kde5-> i use firefox and opera[00:01:26] <NanoSector> install libpulse, pulseaudio, pulseaudio-alsa and lib32-libpulse[00:01:26] <Celmor> NanoSector, thought the same[00:01:32] <manjaro-kde5-> just today installed distro[00:01:36] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[00:01:54] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3E98B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:02:04] <manjaro-kde5-> http://nettiradio.fi/suomipop[00:02:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ZdRn7j] Radio Suomipop | nettiradio.fi[00:02:11] <manjaro-kde5-> for exampe this works[00:02:20] <Celmor> did you upgrade packages before reboot?[00:02:36] <enp3s3u3f3> NanoSector: no[00:02:57] <enp3s3u3f3> but i purged it after switching to gentoo[00:03:03] <enp3s3u3f3> never looked back[00:03:11] <manjaro-kde5-> yes i did .. for love of god now it works[00:03:15] <NanoSector> enp3s3u3f3, k, systemd usually generates those illogical, random interface names[00:03:57] <manjaro-kde5-> im new in linux[00:04:16] <Celmor> first thing I did after instal was to give my interfaces static names (eth0, eth1 and br0)[00:04:23] <enp3s3u3f3> yeah, for instance my phone can tether internet over usb and the name used to be enp0s3u8f7[00:04:30] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-186-75.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:04:33] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@198.54.95.79.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[00:04:59] <manjaro-kde5-> did i tell here what windows did to me?[00:05:24] <NanoSector> my internal wifi is called wlp4s0 here and my usb stick is called wlp0s20u5[00:05:30] <NanoSector> meanwhile my ethernet is called enp5s0f1[00:05:32] <Celmor> I wonder when we get libvirt 3.0 in our package repository...[00:06:05] * NanoSector already has 3.0[00:06:05] <NanoSector> :P[00:07:03] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[00:07:07] <Celmor> compiled yourself?[00:07:11] <NanoSector> no[00:07:12] <NanoSector> Arch[00:07:15] <Celmor> ah[00:07:47] <Celmor> I heard a lot of people had issues with 3.0, like when you give it a symbolic link for a drive[00:07:52] <Celmor> it gives you io errors[00:08:03] <manjaro-kde5-> it started so share my personal files on internet it shared my bank account data and and personal files for no reason, i know what folder it share i would not put there my personal data.. all my tax files and everything is now all over the net.. fucking sueing microsoft.. this new update to win 10 pro[00:08:09] * NanoSector doesn't use libvirt atm[00:08:22] <Celmor> how did it do that?[00:08:25] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[00:08:34] <NanoSector> manjaro-kde5-, did you skip through the setup assistant without looking?[00:08:41] <NanoSector> if so it did throw all your files in onedrive[00:08:50] <Celmor> doubt that[00:08:55] <NanoSector> yes, it does[00:09:06] <Celmor> gotta be very new then[00:09:09] <manjaro-kde5-> yes and onedrive is off from mi[00:09:10] <Celmor> never did that to me[00:09:13] <manjaro-kde5-> me[00:09:14] <NanoSector> it asks if you want to merge documents and stuff with onedrive[00:09:27] <Celmor> never asked me that[00:10:09] <Celmor> I think last time I had any option left on in the setup process was when it was still not released and I installed insider preview in a VM[00:10:16] <manjaro-kde5-> i never use or enebled onedrive, i even went to deep windows to turn it off wen i installed win 10[00:10:24] <rhg135> they're neither random nor illogical though[00:10:58] <rhg135> iirc they're based on bus location[00:11:15] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[00:11:32] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:11:42] <Celmor> yeah, gotta love these stupidly long names for usb or bluetooth nics[00:11:44] <manjaro-kde5-> i know something about services and i know that i did not fuck it up but they stole my files from random plases[00:11:56] <NanoSector> rhg135, sounds great but eth0 and wlan0 is so much easier to remember and work with[00:12:22] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@host86-191-186-58.range86-191.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[00:12:23] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[00:12:36] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[00:12:50] <manjaro-kde5-> 20yers of win every day experience and they fuck us again[00:13:09] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:13:21] <rhg135> unless you have two nics that are hotpluggable[00:13:35] <enp3s3u3f3> thanks lenny potter[00:14:44] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:14:47] <manjaro-kde5-> keep microsoft keep your shit and i learn this linux instead so tired of windows fuckoff, its os fuckoff that fifa cant even give me big enough bucket[00:15:58] <Sanderski> brilliant lol[00:16:34] <enp3s3u3f3> manjaro-kde5-: umm are you ok[00:16:38] <NanoSector> lol[00:16:49] <NanoSector> someone's triggered[00:17:07] <enp3s3u3f3> i feel like manjaro-kde5- had a stroke just now[00:17:16] <NanoSector> lol[00:18:40] <manjaro-kde5-> maybe you would triggered if your childhood pictures were shared all over the net and then you have to show tem everyone who you meet, like you in bath with your own turd floting there[00:18:47] *** thid <thid!~thid@public-gprs394917.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:19:14] <Sanderski> 2/10 trolling, u got me for a second[00:19:25] <manjaro-kde5-> not trolling[00:19:42] <manjaro-kde5-> they shared my pictures[00:20:03] <imnofox> they publicly shared them all over the internet?[00:20:10] <manjaro-kde5-> yes[00:20:11] *** thid <thid!~thid@188.121.19.232> has joined #manjaro[00:21:02] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:21:03] <manjaro-kde5-> there were tab "these pictures you forgot to share your friends "[00:21:50] <manjaro-kde5-> never picked pics to share so it sayed it was shared for averyone[00:21:58] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@2a02:8108:100:38c8::2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:22:27] <manjaro-kde5-> i don't even have microsoft account[00:22:42] <b0n> dont you need one to use onedrive[00:22:52] <NanoSector> yes[00:23:07] <manjaro-kde5-> no i don't use cloud servises at all[00:23:48] <enp3s3u3f3> >like you in bath with your own turd floting there[00:23:52] <enp3s3u3f3> HAHAHA oh wow[00:24:19] <manjaro-kde5-> that is shared there somewhere i don't know?[00:25:12] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[00:25:24] <manjaro-kde5-> i scanned all pictures what my family have over 200years to computer[00:25:25] *** bewnie <bewnie!2d1a1120@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.45.26.17.32> has joined #manjaro[00:25:28] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[00:25:36] <enp3s3u3f3> 200 years?[00:25:54] <enp3s3u3f3> did your computer run with gasoline or something?[00:26:17] <manjaro-kde5-> paintings last[00:26:28] <Sanderski> dont worry M$ shares only those with "floating turds" :D:D lol[00:26:55] <manjaro-kde5-> :D:D:D:D[00:27:04] <enp3s3u3f3> :D:D:D:D[00:27:09] <bewnie> Hey, whats the difference between the Manjaro Stable releases and the Development releases?[00:27:22] <enp3s3u3f3> jesus christ please i need to sleep not laugh[00:27:35] <Celmor> stable releases are stable, development releases are potentially unstable[00:27:37] <manjaro-kde5-> my family book 430years old and[00:27:42] <rhg135> the stabl has older sw[00:28:12] <bewnie> So, do they have the testing repos enabled by default, or what?[00:28:30] <rhg135> yes[00:28:31] <manjaro-kde5-> manjaro stable is what you want to install, others are unstable[00:29:14] <bewnie> Why not unstable? I've already tried Antergos, and I haven't had it break on me. I'm looking for something new to use.[00:30:23] <rhg135> it's basically arch testing so...[00:30:26] <manjaro-kde5-> but that is the thing what you have to expect .. the worst but they can bee very sable[00:30:28] <rhg135> uh, gl[00:30:33] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[00:31:45] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@139.202.115.87.dyn.plus.net> has joined #manjaro[00:31:57] <bewnie> ok, so should i install development or not? I just want the newest software[00:32:21] <Celmor> just go with stable, it's still "bleeding-edge"[00:32:31] <manjaro-kde5-> yep stable[00:32:37] <rhg135> I've used manjaro testing fine, but...[00:32:41] <bewnie> what kernel does stable have?[00:32:49] <Celmor> 4.9[00:33:03] <rhg135> it has up to 4.9[00:33:03] <bewnie> good, i guess ill try stable then[00:33:13] <rhg135> you can have several[00:33:24] <manjaro-kde5-> you install cd or usb?[00:33:28] <bewnie> usb[00:33:37] <manjaro-kde5--> hello[00:33:48] <manjaro-kde5-> remember chabe it bios[00:33:51] <bewnie> hello![00:34:00] <Celmor> so many manjaro-kde5..[00:34:01] <bewnie> what?[00:34:46] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has left #manjaro[00:34:52] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[00:35:27] *** bewnie <bewnie!2d1a1120@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.45.26.17.32> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:35:36] <Celmor> btw, you can always change your name with /nick new_name[00:35:54] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@93-82-25-12.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:36:34] <manjaro-kde5-> what i earlier over exaggerate about pic longativity is false it was only 35years but family line is true[00:36:52] *** Stuzz <Stuzz!~Stuzz@CPE-121-222-131-9.lnse1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:37:02] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[00:37:31] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:37:34] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as mmmm[00:38:37] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@139.202.115.87.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:38:56] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[00:39:14] <mmmm> so many same name, maybe this will help everyone sudo pacman -Syu[00:40:11] <mmmm> damned it did not work[00:41:33] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@139.202.115.87.dyn.plus.net> has joined #manjaro[00:41:40] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:43:51] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[00:46:25] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye ALL#)[00:46:27] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@c-73-3-64-83.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:47:20] <manjaro-kde5--> does anyone can help me how to install app in terminal[00:47:45] *** notis <notis!~notis@46.246.242.253.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:48:28] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@130.180.210.110> has joined #manjaro[00:49:04] *** infinital <infinital!uid144856@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xozskjdfqtfzvlgc> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:49:43] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@162.72.185.127> has joined #manjaro[00:50:26] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@139.202.115.87.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[00:50:35] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:50:49] *** Stuzz <Stuzz!~Stuzz@CPE-60-231-67-122.lns2.cha.bigpond.net.au> has joined #manjaro[00:51:28] <Celmor> sudo pacman -S <app-name>[00:51:29] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[00:52:28] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:53:55] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:54:07] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:54:49] *** Ayumu <Ayumu!bdcbbcad@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.203.188.173> has joined #manjaro[00:55:50] <mmmm> what kind of help you need app install?[00:56:20] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[00:58:54] *** ziggys <ziggys!~ziggys@gateway/tor-sasl/ziggys> has joined #manjaro[00:59:38] <mmmm> quit[00:59:47] <mmmm> ei toiminu täällä :D[00:59:59] <mmmm> not worked here :D[01:01:39] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@130.180.210.110> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:02:45] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[01:03:29] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@139.202.115.87.dyn.plus.net> has joined #manjaro[01:04:40] <Ayumu> Bye friedns[01:04:49] <manjaro-kde5-> is anyone actually in here ?[01:04:50] *** Ayumu <Ayumu!bdcbbcad@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.203.188.173> has left #manjaro[01:05:01] <dogue> Not me.[01:05:15] <manjaro-kde5-> i have two issue with manjaro :([01:05:30] <ziggys> i am, relatively xD[01:05:32] <manjaro-kde5-> basic same issues i have had since knowing about manjaro[01:05:40] <ziggys> tell us[01:05:49] <dogue> Ask away. I'll help if I can, but I can't promise anything. I got out of tech support in favor of heavy equipment. =P[01:05:59] <manjaro-kde5-> number one: Critical bug closed is still a problem[01:06:06] *** solosoft <solosoft!~solo@ti0004a400-4969.bb.online.no> has joined #manjaro[01:06:15] <manjaro-kde5-> Calamares LUKS doesnt work[01:07:18] <manjaro-kde5-> https://calamares.io/bugs/browse/CAL-399[01:07:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/SJFe36] [CAL-399] luksbootkeyfile-task gets stuck when existing LUKS-devices are present - Calamares Issue Tracker[01:07:25] <manjaro-kde5-> still an issue ^^[01:07:27] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@c-73-3-64-83.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[01:07:54] <solosoft> hi been googling a bit but cant seem to find a awnser to my quest: making one partition off 3 diffrent size disks. is that possible ?[01:08:08] <manjaro-kde5-> no solutions work[01:08:20] <manjaro-kde5-> i have followed this thread...[01:08:23] <manjaro-kde5-> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/luks-installation-fails-and-destroys-other-encrypted-partition/8882/5[01:08:23] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/5UQ2qH] LUKS installation fails and destroys other encrypted partition - Installation - Manjaro[01:08:36] <manjaro-kde5-> ^ yes[01:08:40] <manjaro-kde5-> still not working[01:09:01] <manjaro-kde5-> fresh KDE 16.10 iso, standard LUKS install on an empty SSD[01:09:08] <manjaro-kde5-> all other discs disabled physcially.[01:09:13] <manjaro-kde5-> no dice.[01:09:22] <dogue> solosoft, you can have multiple partitions on one disk, but not multiple disks with one partition, unless you get into RAID[01:09:46] <dogue> And RAID doesn't generally play well with differently sized disks[01:09:57] <manjaro-kde5-> i need it, but i have it without at the moment whilst i download Solus.[01:10:10] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@c-73-3-64-83.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:10:16] <solosoft> dogue: yes it was what I thought thx[01:10:21] <manjaro-kde5-> Problem number 2:[01:10:34] <dogue> No problem[01:10:38] <manjaro-kde5-> first system update octopi...[01:10:46] <manjaro-kde5-> error: unresolvable package conflicts detected[01:10:50] <manjaro-kde5-> error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies)[01:10:54] <manjaro-kde5-> Command finished with errors![01:10:57] *** Trinexx <Trinexx!~jake@unaffiliated/trinexx> has joined #manjaro[01:11:03] <manjaro-kde5-> I have only just booted lol. what a mess[01:11:31] <manjaro-kde5-> So i cant use LUKS and i cant update my system..[01:11:47] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@c-73-3-64-83.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[01:11:49] <manjaro-kde5-> this is the same kind of thing i left manjaro for 6 months ago.[01:12:15] <manjaro-kde5-> broken updates, not possible to update, no luks etc..[01:12:21] <manjaro-kde5-> anyway thanks for your help.[01:12:30] <manjaro-kde5-> Solus is nearly downloaded :D[01:12:55] <manjaro-kde5-> hopefully these bugs will be ironed out soon. https://calamares.io/bugs/browse/CAL-399[01:12:55] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/SJFe36] [CAL-399] luksbootkeyfile-task gets stuck when existing LUKS-devices are present - Calamares Issue Tracker[01:13:06] <rhg135> btrfs/zfs[01:13:16] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[01:13:20] <rhg135> even lvm[01:13:30] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@139.202.115.87.dyn.plus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:14:12] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@c-73-3-64-83.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:15:31] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[01:16:47] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:16:48] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-188-107-138-197.188.107.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[01:20:13] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[01:21:47] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:22:29] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[01:24:54] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[01:25:02] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:25:52] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[01:26:30] <solosoft> I have 3 255GB disks I had on a centos file server for some years. the server mainboard died and the 3 disk been sitting in the box. now I want the data. if I put them in my desktop wil it recognice the lvmg and be easy to mount?[01:29:51] <solosoft> or do I have to do some rebuild woodo[01:29:57] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:30:47] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@c-73-3-64-83.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:32:45] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:36:12] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[01:36:12] *** Trinexx <Trinexx!~jake@unaffiliated/trinexx> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:37:21] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[01:38:01] *** Manj-1509-Lxde <Manj-1509-Lxde!~jackson@c-73-3-124-31.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[01:41:10] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: gn.)[01:41:29] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:41:51] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:41:52] <dogue> Afraid I can't help on that one. LVM isn't in my knowledgebase.[01:44:30] <solosoft> dogue: just been on the atic and found a old mainboard and 2x512mb ram so if Im lucky I can get it to boot and dump them to a extenal hd[01:44:57] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[01:45:36] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ejmbgvyeunajoake> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[01:45:41] <dogue> To quote one of my favorite youtubers, "Stupid like a fox!"[01:45:44] <dogue> =)[01:46:45] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:48:20] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[01:48:29] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[01:49:12] *** sroman <sroman!~sroman@2602:ffc5::4924:d252> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.4)[01:50:04] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[01:53:34] *** sroman <sroman!~sroman@2602:ffc5::4924:d252> has joined #manjaro[01:58:05] *** servolet <servolet!~manjaro-k@mobile-access-5d6aba-221.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:01:18] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[02:01:24] *** solosoft <solosoft!~solo@ti0004a400-4969.bb.online.no> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:07:45] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:08:07] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:08:39] *** joaojotta <joaojotta!~joaojotta@acb1-84-91-18-209.netvisao.pt> has joined #manjaro[02:09:59] *** hedgie_mobile <hedgie_mobile!~hedgie_mo@2602:306:3144:1e10:d462:a5ad:5383:1a7e> has joined #manjaro[02:13:09] *** hedgie_mobile <hedgie_mobile!~hedgie_mo@2602:306:3144:1e10:d462:a5ad:5383:1a7e> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:19:21] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[02:22:51] *** Ayumu <Ayumu!bdcbbcad@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.203.188.173> has joined #manjaro[02:22:58] <Ayumu> hi[02:23:21] <Ayumu> can I install Antergo?[02:23:58] <badbodh> yes you can. Whether you are successful is another story :)[02:24:44] <imnofox> odd thing to ask in the Manjaro channel[02:25:53] *** thid <thid!~thid@188.121.19.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[02:25:59] <Joseph> Ayumu: you can, but exact support for that is probably best provided in #antergos[02:26:09] *** thid <thid!~thid@public-gprs394917.centertel.pl> has joined #manjaro[02:26:15] <Joseph> Ayumu: (this the Manjaro channel, which is *another* Arch-based distro)[02:26:23] <Ayumu> I can not install Manjaro my PC[02:26:53] <imnofox> why not?[02:27:09] <Ayumu> I Have installed my Laptop the OS Manjaro[02:27:16] <Joseph> mhm[02:28:17] <imnofox> what is the problem with installing Manjaro on your PC?[02:28:18] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[02:28:24] <Ayumu> Yes it is rare xd[02:28:36] <Joseph> trust me, a lot of us have seen it all[02:28:42] <Joseph> What's the exact issue you're having?[02:30:02] <Ayumu> It is always on black screen and Can not install Manjaro my PC[02:30:09] <Joseph> oh wait.[02:30:13] <Joseph> you were here before, weren't you?[02:30:37] <Ayumu> Yes[02:30:42] <Joseph> ah yes.[02:31:42] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:31:59] <Ayumu> xD But I will install Antergos[02:32:12] <Joseph> i think i asked if your iso burn was ok? generally after you download it from sourceforge, you need to check that the download is good and didn't end up corrupted.[02:32:21] <Joseph> you do that with the sha1 hash provided.[02:35:43] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[02:38:25] *** mmmm <mmmm!~manjaro-k@dsl-hkibrasgw3-50dfd2-6.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:38:28] *** tefter <tefter!~bmaxa@c-bg-d-p1-76.bvcom.net> has joined #manjaro[02:38:28] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tefter[02:40:54] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC ()[02:41:37] *** hedgie_mobile <hedgie_mobile!~hedgie_mo@2602:306:3144:1e10:d462:a5ad:5383:1a7e> has joined #manjaro[02:43:09] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[02:44:06] *** hedgie_mobile <hedgie_mobile!~hedgie_mo@2602:306:3144:1e10:d462:a5ad:5383:1a7e> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:44:49] *** thid <thid!~thid@public-gprs394917.centertel.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[02:45:06] *** thid <thid!~thid@188.121.19.232> has joined #manjaro[02:48:46] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[02:49:15] *** space_otter <space_otter!~space_ott@2602:306:32e8:cf60:a284:ed24:cb0f:59> has joined #manjaro[02:49:25] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~eddie@mot04304.swm.uni-mannheim.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:50:15] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:53:50] *** xiva <xiva!~shiva@a95-94-196-241.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #manjaro[02:55:04] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kjjwoqzpnasneiig> has joined #manjaro[02:55:58] *** xiva <xiva!~shiva@a95-94-196-241.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:58:12] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[02:58:14] *** ziggys <ziggys!~ziggys@gateway/tor-sasl/ziggys> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[02:59:50] *** hbx <hbx!498a9687@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.138.150.135> has joined #manjaro[03:01:22] *** ashledombos_ <ashledombos_!~manjaro-k@37.168.189.232> has joined #manjaro[03:01:28] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@dsl-hkibrasgw3-50dfd2-6.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[03:02:14] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[03:05:03] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:06:39] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@dsl-hkibrasgw3-50dfd2-6.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[03:07:37] *** Ayumu <Ayumu!bdcbbcad@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.203.188.173> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[03:08:12] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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How can I change the drives permissions to mine?[03:21:18] <Celmor> how is it encrypted?[03:21:25] <j09> luks[03:21:31] <Celmor> how did yo upreviously mount it[03:21:38] <j09> clicked on it on Thunar[03:22:19] <Celmor> how is it formatted?[03:22:23] <j09> ext4[03:23:21] <Celmor> you should at least be able to open and mount it via cmdline[03:23:53] <Celmor> you could try making a few changes to it to be able to mount it via your file manager, personally I had never luck doing that through my file manager though[03:24:27] <j09> How do I reassign the permissions on the command line?[03:24:30] <Celmor> you can try chown'ing the device[03:25:05] <Celmor> like, sudo chown youruser:users /dev/sdX[03:25:20] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[03:25:35] <j09> cool, thanks[03:25:48] <Celmor> did this fix it?[03:25:58] <j09> I think I know where to go from there.[03:26:17] <Celmor> alright then[03:26:21] <Celmor> gl[03:26:24] <j09> Yeah, it's working now. i suspected I screwed something like that up a while back.[03:26:34] <j09> Human error.[03:26:59] <j09> Thank you very much for the help Celmor. 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I need torrents to download only at certain time. I have set the download/upload speed limits to 1kbps. Also I have selected the schedule the use of alternative speed limits option. 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I am noticing it is modified alot but what is causing the memmory usage? Composite?[10:11:41] *** xfce123443 <xfce123443!4dacede9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.172.237.233> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:11:50] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@46-133-37-180.dialup.umc.net.ua> has joined #manjaro[10:12:07] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[10:13:39] *** manjaro-kde5__ is now known as JackTheKiller[10:13:53] <JackTheKiller> Hey[10:14:15] <manjaro-web|9652> Hi[10:14:16] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-kjjwoqzpnasneiig> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[10:15:40] *** chomwitt <chomwitt!~chomwitt@athedsl-31597.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[10:16:31] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[10:16:59] <JackTheKiller> I don't understand - what the hell is going on here?[10:17:08] <JackTheKiller> (on my OS)[10:17:08] <manjaro-web|9652> Is there a good guide to changing from one version of Manjaro (like Deepin) to another? I mean more than just changing the desktop environment. I'm running a system update right now and a couple of updates made me wonder[10:18:10] <JackTheKiller> I like manjaro kde, only kde[10:18:26] <JackTheKiller> why no?[10:20:56] <JackTheKiller> error while loading shared libraries: libjpeg.so.62: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory[10:21:01] <JackTheKiller> Shit[10:21:07] <JackTheKiller> wtf[10:21:13] <manjaro-web|9652> also trying to figure out fan control for this acer aspire[10:21:34] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@p5DD1273F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:22:20] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:23:44] <JackTheKiller> pizdets suka blyat[10:24:17] *** pixelghost <pixelghost!~pixelghos@65.99.66.198> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[10:25:46] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@71.19.252.124> has joined #manjaro[10:25:46] *** nicholas_ <nicholas_!~nicholasf@71.19.252.124> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:26:09] <JackTheKiller> i want to install doom 2 on my desktop, but not found .wad file[10:26:13] <JackTheKiller> zaebis'[10:28:00] <JackTheKiller> yeeeah work bitch[10:29:27] *** hank_ <hank_!~hank@p549ACBCF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[10:30:22] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:32:15] *** hank <hank!~hank@p549AC73A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:33:40] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@cable-tku-50de77-194.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[10:34:15] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@cable-tku-50de77-194.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:35:29] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:47:35] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@c-73-221-22-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:47:49] <Ododo> JackTheKiller, you 'll have to add them yourself i think :à[10:49:15] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has joined #manjaro[10:49:16] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:49:38] <ShayBox> sup everybody[10:49:42] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132095185.public.t-mobile.at> has joined #manjaro[10:50:57] <manjaro-web|9652> yo[10:52:16] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:53:33] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.173.188> has joined #manjaro[10:55:35] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:56:02] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[10:57:40] <mike-zal> hi[10:59:52] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[11:00:23] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@192-164-7-46.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[11:00:41] *** manjaro-web|9652 <manjaro-web|9652!62e81084@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.98.232.16.132> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[11:03:44] *** enp3s3u3f3 is now known as leBang[11:06:32] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@cm-84.210.232.66.getinternet.no> has joined #manjaro[11:06:51] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@cm-84.210.232.66.getinternet.no> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:09:43] *** chka2554 <chka2554!~chka22544@46.246.124.91> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:11:58] *** manjaro-web|1554 <manjaro-web|1554!25809b6f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.128.155.111> has joined #manjaro[11:12:41] <manjaro-web|1554> hello[11:13:41] *** JackTheKiller <JackTheKiller!~manjaro-k@46-133-37-180.dialup.umc.net.ua> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:14:08] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:14:45] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAA4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:15:21] *** manjaro-web|1554 <manjaro-web|1554!25809b6f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.37.128.155.111> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:16:17] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@192-164-7-46.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:17:05] <ShayBox> not many people need help at this time of night/day[11:22:47] *** nicholas_ <nicholas_!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[11:23:52] *** enkeys <enkeys!~enkeys@static-cl188134236155.unet.cz> has joined #manjaro[11:26:02] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:c471:4c0:4d8f:a1de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[11:26:03] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@200-165-159-114.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[11:26:31] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@71.19.252.124> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[11:28:18] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[11:29:00] <mike-zal> good, because it's a working time. on the other hand it means that manjaro is less popular outside europe...[11:30:50] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:31:01] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has joined #manjaro[11:31:33] *** PseudoNoob <PseudoNoob!~PseudoNoo@unaffiliated/pseudonoob> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:32:05] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[11:32:46] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@200-165-159-114.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[11:33:39] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:36:12] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[11:36:38] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:37:00] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[11:37:41] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!~manjaro-k@193.138.219.236> has joined #manjaro[11:39:02] *** manjaro-web|8138 <manjaro-web|8138!012fe189@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.1.47.225.137> has joined #manjaro[11:39:39] *** manjaro-web|8138 <manjaro-web|8138!012fe189@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.1.47.225.137> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:43:13] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@62-251-24-35.ip.xs4all.nl> has joined #manjaro[11:43:47] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p5DCDEC64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[11:44:22] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p5DCDEC64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:45:10] <rhg135> It's the middle of the night here[11:45:13] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p5DCDEC64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[11:53:05] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!~manjaro-k@193.138.219.236> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:57:53] <mike-zal> it's the middle of the day here ;p. I guess middle is bad for both cases ;).[12:03:16] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~eddie@mot04304.swm.uni-mannheim.de> has joined #manjaro[12:03:56] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!manjaro-kd@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-kogtduudcligbgkr> has joined #manjaro[12:05:44] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[12:07:15] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:08:41] *** hodyna <hodyna!~hodyna@77.120.46.23> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:09:00] *** manjaro-web|7921 <manjaro-web|7921!1fb261b5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.31.178.97.181> has joined #manjaro[12:09:40] *** manjaro-web|7921 <manjaro-web|7921!1fb261b5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.31.178.97.181> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:10:05] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@c110-22-146-194.brodm4.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #manjaro[12:10:13] <manjaroDeepin> Deepin or KDE for newbie?[12:10:51] <manjaroDeepin> Anyone here[12:14:14] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@c110-22-146-194.brodm4.vic.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:17:47] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@94.242.252.40> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[12:37:16] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[12:39:30] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[12:42:01] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[12:44:41] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[12:46:33] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[12:53:04] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #manjaro[12:55:23] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[12:56:23] <tunage> installed manjaro for the first time, love it. But it still didn't fix my computer freezing/locking up 3 times a day issue. Its not manjaro's fault, this is my 6th OS trying to knock this issue out.[12:56:35] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@177.165.84.136> has joined #manjaro[12:57:34] <tunage> How do you pull in the kernel sources with pacman?[12:57:56] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[12:59:05] <tunage> community/kernel-headers-musl 3.12.6_5-1 Linux kernel headers sanitized for use with musl libc[12:59:12] <tunage> That^^ ?[12:59:40] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@177.165.84.136> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:00:31] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[13:01:04] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@130.43.3.248.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[13:01:25] <tunage> https://bpaste.net/show/d3246956276c[13:01:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/pSOKzC] show at bpaste[13:02:04] *** notis <notis!~notis@46.246.153.70.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:07:40] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[13:08:03] <tunage> reboot[13:08:09] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:08:38] *** Stuzz <Stuzz!~Stuzz@CPE-60-231-67-122.lns2.cha.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:12:24] *** tunage <tunage!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #manjaro[13:13:15] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1EFFFDBB1035B9995098.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:15:28] <badbodh> tunage, what do you want ?[13:15:39] *** hoshi411 <hoshi411!~robison@zaq77199c24.zaq.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[13:15:53] <tunage> badbodh: turn on kernel debugging[13:15:57] <badbodh> you can fetch source and pkgbuild from github and compile one yourself[13:16:12] <hoshi411> is autogen on arch the same as autogen.sh on debian?[13:16:29] <hoshi411> they dont seem to work the same T_T[13:16:57] <badbodh> did you read the script yourself or just the filenames[13:17:02] <hoshi411> I can't find how to install autogen.sh on manjaro[13:17:04] <tunage> badbodh: I think I got it, it puts the kernel in a weird place. https://bpaste.net/show/6c53d83bdd8f but I don't see my architechure. x86_64[13:17:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/sPO78h] show at bpaste[13:17:23] *** nicholas_ <nicholas_!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:17:25] <hoshi411> coming from debian , so...[13:17:27] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[13:18:16] <hoshi411> I have a package called autogen installed but not sure it works like debian's autogen.sh[13:18:46] <hoshi411> I just want to build something from github that has not ben ported to aur[13:19:03] <badbodh> then writeb a 'pkgbuild'[13:19:05] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[13:19:08] <badbodh> *write[13:19:08] <tunage> arch has a weird way of getting into the kernel -> make: *** No rule to make target 'menuconfig'. Stop. :([13:19:15] <hoshi411> I used to use autogen.sh[13:19:55] <hoshi411> to create a config file[13:20:03] <hoshi411> then make[13:20:14] <badbodh> amateurs everywhere :P[13:20:58] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[13:21:05] <hoshi411> I guess Arch must have an even better way but... ive never heard of it[13:21:10] <badbodh> in "arch way" you don;t use a script to edit a text file, you just edit a text file[13:21:26] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[13:21:43] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:21:48] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[13:22:18] <badbodh> just because a text file happens to contain configuration don;t change a thang[13:23:14] <hoshi411> the thing with autogen.sh is , not much to hassle with. I just type the four commands and the program is installed[13:23:48] <hoshi411> autogen.sh > ./configure > make > sudo make install[13:24:11] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[13:24:25] <hoshi411> pkgbuild sounds like something id need to learn how to script?[13:24:33] <badbodh> yep[13:24:39] <hoshi411> right[13:24:50] <badbodh> autogen.sh IS a script, and readymade pkgbuilds are available on aur too[13:24:52] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Quit: Potzblitz!)[13:25:11] <hoshi411> so is there an autopkgbuild :p[13:25:21] <badbodh> principle is same, method a bit different. Start rtfm-ing and learn stuff[13:26:08] <badbodh> manjaro automates only hardware-detection, everything else is arch-way[13:27:24] <hoshi411> right, i use pkgbuild in aur when i can , and github when I cant.[13:27:25] <badbodh> truth be told, if you wish to "learn" then switch to gentoo[13:28:04] <badbodh> that way you will be able to look past fancy names like "autogen pkgbuild" etc[13:28:11] <hoshi411> i think it would be quicker to figure out how to run autogen.sh on manjaro...[13:28:30] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[13:28:39] <badbodh> might as well figure out how to do a windows update on linux[13:29:00] <badbodh> did you ever open the "autogen.sh" file in a text editor to read the contents ?[13:29:41] <hoshi411> so im hearing (1) take a couple days and become a pkgbuild scripting expert or (2) figure out how to get autogen.sh on manjaro[13:30:11] <badbodh> talking to you is like fucking a rubber doll and expecting an offspring[13:30:58] <hoshi411> well you want me to be something im not badbodh[13:31:24] <badbodh> well, you want manjaro to function like a debian. Might as well make a rubber doll out of you[13:32:01] <badbodh> add some silicone tits with LED lights in them[13:32:49] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[13:35:17] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[13:37:53] <Ododo> when should i use real time kernel ?[13:39:11] <badbodh> audio production[13:39:58] <badbodh> not suited for everyday computing, may drain your battery[13:41:19] *** Kezz <Kezz!~kezz@101.160.15.96> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:41:26] <Ododo> ok, i installed an rt kernel and now it is using it, but how can i switch to the normal kernel ? ^^[13:46:14] <Ododo> nvm, i'll just elete it[13:46:17] <Ododo> d[13:46:51] <hoshi411> ok got autogen.sh working, make installed and on my way[13:47:09] <hoshi411> thanks for the tip in the right direction[13:49:35] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!manjaro-kd@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-kogtduudcligbgkr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:52:47] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[13:53:16] *** enkeys_ <enkeys_!~enkeys@178.162.211.215> has joined #manjaro[13:53:32] *** hoshi411 <hoshi411!~robison@zaq77199c24.zaq.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:54:14] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@198.54.95.79.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:55:26] *** tefter <tefter!~bmaxa@c-bg-d-p1-76.bvcom.net> has joined #manjaro[13:55:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tefter[13:57:00] *** enkeys <enkeys!~enkeys@static-cl188134236155.unet.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:57:00] <ringo> http://i.imgur.com/pEc00OU.png[13:57:01] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/oRIq4l] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[13:57:03] <ringo> ooooops[14:00:05] *** Joseph <Joseph!~Penskins@gateway/tor-sasl/penskins> has joined #manjaro[14:00:09] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@145.130.236.170> has joined #manjaro[14:00:32] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[14:00:53] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@145.130.236.170> has left #manjaro[14:01:10] *** rnydam <rnydam!~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:04:21] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[14:04:36] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[14:06:49] <peaveyman> How do I change the wallpaper in deepin[14:08:32] <mike-zal> peaveyman: there is a way in system settings[14:08:48] <peaveyman> I've been looking for it, can't seem to find it[14:08:50] <mike-zal> peaveyman: can you open it? there is some section that is responsible for system look[14:09:22] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[14:09:28] <mike-zal> I am not running deeping now so I can't point exactly to that but it was easy to do that... just look around system settings, you will find it[14:09:50] <peaveyman> I see the theme section but not the wallpaper[14:09:57] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[14:10:03] <mike-zal> it should be near[14:10:13] <mike-zal> wait, I will boot it in VB[14:10:28] <peaveyman> Meanwhile, I will keep looking[14:10:59] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[14:12:32] *** borrisl <borrisl!~manjaro-k@2a02:8388:8881:2400::2> has joined #manjaro[14:12:41] <mike-zal> peaveyman: right click on desktop and choose "set wallpaper"[14:13:01] * peaveyman feels like a dummy[14:13:13] *** borrisl <borrisl!~manjaro-k@2a02:8388:8881:2400::2> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:13:39] <mike-zal> peaveyman: it was in settings, they moved it somewhere else. I have no idea why but right click remained[14:14:44] <peaveyman> You can also do it with the right click on any picture in the file manager[14:15:29] <mike-zal> I can't find it in settings, weird. they screwed it. it should be there, despite the right click[14:16:37] <peaveyman> Agreed[14:17:53] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[14:17:57] <mike-zal> when it was in settings, you could set system wallpaper or add any other picture. now you can't do it. you need to use right click on a picture in file manager.[14:18:30] <mike-zal> so that's a longer way to do that. one could expect to set everything from system settings[14:18:41] <peaveyman> When I first installed deepin a few minutes ago most of the settings didn't work or weren't even there until I installed the manjaro stuff to go with it[14:19:42] <mike-zal> last time I installed deepin, it wasn't working 100% correctly, while manjaro deepin does work ok.[14:20:20] <mike-zal> also, deepin is utilising symentec drivers so installing it on other DEs that use libinput, you won't have mouse/pad settings..[14:20:36] <mike-zal> unless they fixed it in latest version.[14:20:41] <peaveyman> I'm playing with it, trying to find something that's not as resource heavy as plasma[14:20:55] <peaveyman> This is on a desktop[14:21:42] <mike-zal> deepin was much heavier then plasma a year ago. now it's decent. it doesn't need so many system resources anymore and memory leakages were patched[14:22:12] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[14:22:18] <mike-zal> peaveyman: what are your desktop specs?[14:22:43] <peaveyman> Is there anything else that gives a decent desktop experience without being a hog[14:23:09] <mike-zal> xfce and mate if you don't mind it being ugly...[14:23:17] <peaveyman> CPU~Hexa core AMD FX-6100 Six-Core (-MCP-) speed/max~1800/3300 MHz Kernel~4.9.6-1-MANJARO x86_64 Up~29 min Mem~5029.8/7969.8MB HDD~3750.8GB(37.8% used) Procs~262 Client~Shell inxi~2.3.8[14:23:18] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[14:24:04] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:24:16] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[14:24:22] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@s5596b1f3.adsl.online.nl> has joined #manjaro[14:24:32] <peaveyman> Which is uglier, xfce or mate? :)[14:24:41] <mike-zal> xfce[14:25:13] <mike-zal> you can make it look good but there is lot of things you need to change[14:25:27] <peaveyman> And mate is like gnome 2?[14:25:28] <mike-zal> it's easier to tweak mate to look good[14:25:50] <mike-zal> yes, an upgraded, more modern version of gnome 2.[14:25:56] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:26:16] <peaveyman> I might give it a go, see what I can do with it[14:26:29] <mike-zal> I personally dislike it, also xfce is no go for me, but those are good DEs if you don't mind a bit archaic look[14:27:11] <peaveyman> Plasma for you then?[14:27:33] <mike-zal> peaveyman: you may also try lxqt with kwin. looks basic but nice. good for older computers.[14:27:47] <mike-zal> yeah, using plasma. love it.[14:29:13] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[14:29:30] <mike-zal> gnome 3 would be my second choice[14:29:46] <Joseph> if you do some things on Xfce, you can make it look like a fine DE[14:30:02] <Joseph> if you install a compositor and turn on effects, install a drop-down terminal, etc.[14:30:23] <mike-zal> I know, but still, calendar, whisker menu, settings and so many system elements look so dated[14:30:41] <mike-zal> even with good themes and icons, they still have oldisch look[14:31:02] <Joseph> whisker menu looks similar to Linux Mint P[14:31:02] <Joseph> :P[14:31:07] <Joseph> it isn't *that* dated imho[14:31:21] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:31:31] <mike-zal> so yeah, desktop can loook beautiful with compositor but so many other system elements are still not elegant[14:32:10] *** manjaro-web|736 <manjaro-web|736!4b8b4da8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.139.77.168> has joined #manjaro[14:32:34] *** manjo90 <manjo90!~manjaro-k@87-99-9-63.internetia.net.pl> has joined #manjaro[14:33:00] <mike-zal> plasma, gnome, deepin - 3 beatiful and modern looking DEs. Rest is ugly. Actually, unity looks also great when icons and theme is changed.[14:33:23] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[14:33:40] <Joseph> andwhentheydon'tshoveAmazonadvertisementdownyourthroat[14:33:53] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@s5596b1f3.adsl.online.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:34:35] <mike-zal> Joseph: that can be disabled. besides, I like unity but dislike canonical and their politics. ubuntu in itself is fine, not great but fine.[14:34:36] *** rnydam <rnydam!~ashnohoe@D97B8CD4.cm-3-4c.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[14:34:47] <Joseph> well, it was already disabled as of 14.04 iirc[14:35:08] <Joseph> and yeah, their flavors are good -- Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc.[14:35:36] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[14:36:02] <manjo90> Hello :) I have video playback issues in Manjaro 16.10.3, my GPU is GTX770. I have switched between 2 non-free nvidia drivers provided by hardware detection in Manjaro and in tried VLC stable and nightly. The video that is being played has "tearing" or "vertical sync" issues.[14:36:06] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[14:36:47] <manjo90> Is there some other way to fix this?[14:37:00] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:37:47] <mike-zal> manjo90: what DE?[14:39:54] <manjo90> DE?[14:40:04] <mike-zal> desktop environment[14:40:10] <manjo90> <newbie here please have patience>[14:40:13] <manjo90> KDE[14:40:23] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[14:40:53] <manjo90> I have installed the stable Manjaro KDE x64[14:40:59] <mike-zal> really? plasma usually have no screen tearing with nvidia. hmm... some graphic settings can be changed then if you do have issues.[14:41:50] *** manjaro-web|736 <manjaro-web|736!4b8b4da8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.139.77.168> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[14:42:24] <manjo90> How od I change those settings/[14:42:55] <mike-zal> settings->hardware->screen->compositor change to opengl 3.1 and adjust animation speed. this suppose to influence it somehow, but I'm not sure how.[14:43:24] <mike-zal> maybe there are some other settings. I never had screen tearing on plasma so I never needed to dig in it.[14:43:36] <mike-zal> but that issue should be possible to google[14:44:16] *** manjaro-web|8893 <manjaro-web|8893!55dc23c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.85.220.35.196> has joined #manjaro[14:44:30] *** manjaro-web|8893 <manjaro-web|8893!55dc23c4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.85.220.35.196> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:45:04] <mike-zal> not sure if that's relevant: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=131912[14:45:05] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/uwletA] sorry but another screen tearing question.[14:45:32] <mike-zal> or that: https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/3wps3q/screen_tearing_on_plasma_5/[14:45:32] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/TPMMqG] (link was unresponsive: https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/3wps3q/screen_tearing_on_plasma_5/)[14:46:03] <mike-zal> or here: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/how-to-solve-tearing-problem-in-kde/5267/7[14:46:05] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/xihmvj] How to solve tearing problem in KDE? - Newbie Corner - Manjaro[14:47:00] <manjo90> thank you I will look at those[14:48:01] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-89-241-175-188.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[14:49:20] *** joaojotta <joaojotta!~joaojotta@acb1-84-91-18-209.netvisao.pt> has joined #manjaro[14:49:26] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:49:48] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[14:50:57] *** shariebeth <shariebeth!~sb@unaffiliated/shariebeth> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[14:51:33] <mystified> Hi Guys I'm not much of a techie, I'm running manjaro-openrc.[14:53:21] <mystified> My Gpu is an older g210 Nvidia, my default driver is Nouveau[14:53:44] <mystified> I'm having tearing issues when I use vlc.[14:53:53] <mystified> glxinfo[14:54:44] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:55:10] <mystified> Nvidia 340 drivers is the last supported driver from Geforce[14:55:23] <Joseph> mystified: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=163028 <<< Apparently you need the the mainline driver - nvidia/nvidia-utils[14:55:24] <mystified> I have a an older G2i0[14:55:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/E32Cuc] [SOLVED] Driver for Nvidia Geforce 210 / Newbie Corner / Arch Linux Forums[14:56:18] *** dogue <dogue!~dogue@2604:2d80:8822:c988:d63d:7eff:fe54:95bf> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:56:46] *** manjo90 <manjo90!~manjaro-k@87-99-9-63.internetia.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:57:08] <mystified> My concern is that Im not using SysD, I'n on openrc.[14:57:40] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:57:46] <NanoSector> mystified, shouldn't matter[14:57:49] <mystified> Would this make any difference to Xorg[14:57:55] <NanoSector> it would not][14:58:00] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@117.152.105.119> has joined #manjaro[14:58:06] <mystified> Thx Nano[14:58:12] <Joseph> mystified: I doubt that is related[14:58:17] <Joseph> mystified: please see that link I pasted you[14:58:23] <mystified> So just follow the standard instructions[14:58:47] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@117.152.105.119> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:01:02] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@87-99-9-63.internetia.net.pl> has joined #manjaro[15:01:25] *** manjaro-kde5_ is now known as manjo90[15:01:50] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has joined #manjaro[15:01:51] <mystified> Thx guys..[15:02:04] <Joseph> sure[15:02:58] <manjo90> It seems that KDE is at fault with video tearing ;/[15:03:19] *** shariebeth <shariebeth!~sb@unaffiliated/shariebeth> has joined #manjaro[15:03:19] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v shariebeth[15:03:30] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[15:03:35] <Joseph> did you try the new non-Nouveau driver?[15:04:15] <manjo90> yes, both normal nvidia and nvidia-340[15:05:10] *** ashledombos_ <ashledombos_!~manjaro-k@37.168.189.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[15:05:59] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[15:06:20] <manjo90> set the compositor to full screen repaint and to OpenGL 3.1[15:07:34] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has joined #manjaro[15:07:58] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@195.205.178.240> has joined #manjaro[15:09:02] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[15:09:17] <manjo90> @Joseph maybe I should try xfce or gnome edition?[15:09:39] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[15:09:45] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[15:10:16] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:10:59] <mike-zal> manjo90: in my experience when you have screen tearing, it shows in all DEs, exept.. plasma. but maybe you will have exactly opposite experience?[15:11:23] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[15:11:29] <Joseph> manjo90: you have the problem in KDE? o.0[15:11:31] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[15:11:37] <manjo90> haha, maybe xD[15:11:51] <manjo90> I open videos via VLC[15:12:00] <mike-zal> there are screen tearing fixes for gnome or xfce too[15:12:04] <manjo90> And there are vsync issues[15:12:14] <mike-zal> manjo90: try different player[15:12:55] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[15:13:11] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.153> has joined #manjaro[15:13:11] <mike-zal> manjo90: I love vlc but on my new computer (which is very fast) vlc works horrible so I switched to SMplayer and suprisingly it works well[15:13:29] <manjo90> Tried xine and QtAV player, same issue[15:14:47] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[15:15:18] *** tmsbrdrs__ <tmsbrdrs__!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[15:15:26] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[15:15:43] <manjo90> Same with SMPlayer[15:16:52] <manjo90> And I really like Manjaro's KDE (Mint's KDE sucks)[15:17:36] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:17:55] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[15:18:32] <manjo90> And I see the same effect when I choose between 2 firefox windows[15:19:27] <manjo90> Welp, I will try and install Gnome version[15:21:22] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[15:21:29] <mike-zal> manjo90: I guess you must be patient and dig deeper to resolve the issue because I suspect you will have it also in other DEs[15:22:14] <manjo90> hmmm[15:22:16] <mike-zal> manjo90: screen tearing happens when gpu is faster or not synced with screen refresh rate[15:22:28] <Joseph> I'm googling[15:22:32] <Joseph> And I'm baffled[15:22:35] <manjo90> refresh reate hmmm[15:22:39] <NanoSector> !setfactoid 970 If you are using a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970, you will have to install and use Manjaro with the proprietary drivers. Nouveau does not yet support this card due to memory issues.[15:22:39] <Botergos> Factoid '970' created for this channel.[15:22:41] <Joseph> Because everybody says KDE is the DE where there is no tearing[15:22:42] <NanoSector> !savefactoids[15:22:53] <NanoSector> GNOME + Wayland = heaven[15:22:55] <Joseph> Yet you're having issues on KDE[15:22:56] <manjo90> I have GTX 770[15:22:57] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[15:23:01] <NanoSector> no tearing to be seen anywhere[15:23:02] <mike-zal> manjo90: check kwin settings[15:23:46] <mike-zal> yeah, if everything fails, use gnome with wayland manjo90[15:24:09] <manjo90> kwin settings ? via nano or?[15:24:20] <NanoSector> compositor settigns under System SEttings -> Screens[15:24:22] <NanoSector> or Displays[15:24:29] <mike-zal> not necessary. system should have settings in gui[15:24:48] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:25:03] <mike-zal> NanoSector: I have gtx 970 and it works well, no screen tearing with bumblebee on none-free.[15:25:10] <mike-zal> on plasma[15:25:13] <NanoSector> mike-zal, 970m?[15:25:19] <manjo90> I played with compositor settings and it didn't help[15:25:21] <mike-zal> yeah, 970m[15:25:25] <NanoSector> mike-zal, those aren't affected[15:25:30] <NanoSector> mike-zal, it's the desktop variant[15:25:34] <mike-zal> ah, ok[15:25:59] <NanoSector> mike-zal, it's the card wheren vidia used 3.5 GB + 500 MB of memory in a weird layout, something nouveau can't handle, so you'll get a black screen 99% of the time[15:26:04] <mike-zal> NanoSector: I heard 970 is not compatible with wayland. do you know something about that?[15:26:20] <NanoSector> nvidia drivers are wayland compatible, jsut most compositors aren't compatible with the nvidia drivers[15:26:26] <NanoSector> gnome 3.24 will work with nvidia proprietary on wayland[15:26:28] <manjo90> I tried Fedora 25 with Wayland. Spotify has problems[15:26:40] <NanoSector> manjo90, what issues?[15:27:18] <mike-zal> NanoSector: tried plasma with wayland a month ago and had huge memory leakage[15:27:30] <manjo90> On Fedora 25 when you try to enter settings screen in Spotify you cannot do that with mouse. You have to choose them with mouse and as a workaround press ENTER[15:27:32] <NanoSector> mike-zal, plasma on wayland isn't by far stable[15:27:40] <mike-zal> few GB increase in 30s almost froze my system, had to log off quickly[15:27:58] <NanoSector> manjo90, ok, still exists here but that's something you can work around[15:28:24] <manjo90> And Spotify on Plasma works perfect[15:28:32] <mike-zal> NanoSector: do you have gtx 970 on your pc?[15:28:37] <NanoSector> mike-zal, no[15:28:55] <mike-zal> yeah, no issues with spotify on plasma for me either[15:29:00] <NanoSector> mike-zal, i've just heard a lot of people having issues with it so i went in #nouveau just now to confirm this[15:29:29] <NanoSector> i've a Radeon R9 280X in my desktop and 750M in my laptop[15:30:01] <manjo90> My issues occured even on live USB Manjaro, so I will be able to do a quick check by just booting Manjaro GNOME[15:31:03] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.202.101.110> has joined #manjaro[15:32:08] *** manjo90 <manjo90!~manjaro-k@87-99-9-63.internetia.net.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:32:33] <Satyam2345> any manjaro dev.. here online[15:33:59] <Satyam2345> i have a suggestion.. Kinda[15:34:52] <Satyam2345> In manjaro plz.. re include a cli installer cause calamares sometimes unresponsive[15:35:18] *** teeneebobby <teeneebobby!~champ@2604:880:a:7::f9c> has joined #manjaro[15:35:49] <Satyam2345> and Kde version is too slow sometimes.. a script added for live environment to disable blur AND fade effect[15:36:15] <Satyam2345> and tap to touch in touch pad[15:38:05] *** Satyam2345 <Satyam2345!~satyam@49.202.101.110> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[15:40:04] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[15:40:52] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-174-105.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[15:41:01] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-174-105.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:43:11] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[15:43:32] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[15:43:40] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iovzxxdghuesylcm> has joined #manjaro[15:46:13] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-174-105.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[15:46:41] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[15:48:26] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:49:46] *** darum <darum!~darum_@2a01:e35:8a0b:4480:106:5b71:6a26:210> has joined #manjaro[15:50:10] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:50:52] <badbodh> satyam shivan sundaram[15:51:49] *** darum <darum!~darum_@2a01:e35:8a0b:4480:106:5b71:6a26:210> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:52:39] *** ziggys <ziggys!~ziggys@gateway/tor-sasl/ziggys> has joined #manjaro[15:58:30] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@2804:18:4011:9e1f:e06f:46a:c034:e4ca> has joined #manjaro[15:59:47] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@2804:18:4011:9e1f:e06f:46a:c034:e4ca> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:59:56] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@2804:18:4011:9e1f:e06f:46a:c034:e4ca> has joined #manjaro[16:00:45] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[16:01:16] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@2804:18:4011:9e1f:e06f:46a:c034:e4ca> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:03:15] *** hank_ <hank_!~hank@p549ACBCF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:07:14] <gawd> Ahoy !![16:08:15] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[16:09:52] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132095185.public.t-mobile.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:11:57] <gawd> Anyone here try Daphile ??[16:14:32] *** cybergnomer <cybergnomer!~cybermail@216-82-207-83.dyn.grandenetworks.net> has joined #manjaro[16:15:29] <cybergnomer> hi all[16:16:01] <cybergnomer> I'm using Manjaro Gnome. When I try to access an internal HDD using Files I get this error, "unable to access location no object for d-bus interface"[16:16:07] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:20:47] <cybergnomer> Any help is appreciated[16:20:56] *** ManjaroNoob101 <ManjaroNoob101!6e1692c2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.110.22.146.194> has joined #manjaro[16:21:12] <ManjaroNoob101> Yo can anyone help me in partitioning[16:21:37] <ManjaroNoob101> How much do i allocate to /boot and /home and what are they[16:22:49] *** ManjaroNoob101 <ManjaroNoob101!6e1692c2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.110.22.146.194> has left #manjaro[16:23:21] *** Isaac <Isaac!~vcore@176.123.3.250> has joined #manjaro[16:23:33] <cybergnomer> ManjaroNoob101: /boot is where you put all your system files. 60 - 100 GB should be more than enouch. /Home is where you have your config and other personal files. In case you need to reinstall or change your operating system having a separate /Home partition helps. You don't need to have a separate home partition though.[16:24:58] <Joseph> cybergnomer: too late; manjaronoob101 was apparently too impatient to even wait two whole minutes[16:25:08] <Joseph> I also started typing out an answer only to see them /part[16:26:53] <cybergnomer> Joseph: oh, i didn't even notice :)[16:27:14] <Joseph> that seriously annoys me. Why do people come in, paste a question, and leave after a minute?[16:27:34] <cybergnomer> ADD, iPhone, social media...[16:28:04] <cybergnomer> they are busy doing nothing[16:28:17] <Joseph> many channels add that to the topic, "Please do not leave the channel after asking your question, wait patiently"[16:28:25] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[16:28:32] <Joseph> it's frustrating to type out a whole answer only for them to quit in your face.[16:28:36] <teeneebobby> Joseph, right[16:28:39] <teeneebobby> :-p[16:28:58] <cybergnomer> yep. THat is perhaps a good suggestion to add to this channel as well[16:29:12] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAA4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[16:29:16] <teeneebobby> Only less than ~1% of people do that[16:29:24] <teeneebobby> in this room[16:29:35] <Joseph> it's unfortunately common in support channels :([16:30:35] <cybergnomer> brb[16:30:40] *** cybergnomer <cybergnomer!~cybermail@216-82-207-83.dyn.grandenetworks.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:30:50] *** manTestDee <manTestDee!~Manjaro-D@41.160.245.231> has joined #manjaro[16:30:54] <teeneebobby> 60-100GB for /boot?[16:31:05] <teeneebobby> How many kernels do one plan to install?[16:31:13] <teeneebobby> Did he mean 60-100MB[16:31:42] *** cybergnomer <cybergnomer!~cybermail@216-82-207-83.dyn.grandenetworks.net> has joined #manjaro[16:31:51] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@h85-30-25-251.cust.se.alltele.net> has joined #manjaro[16:32:38] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@h85-30-25-251.cust.se.alltele.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:34:37] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@h85-30-25-251.cust.se.alltele.net> has joined #manjaro[16:36:40] <cybergnomer> so, does Firefox in Linux still have the titlebar? I know in Windows it doesn't[16:37:27] <teeneebobby> AFAIK, yes[16:38:24] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@h85-30-25-251.cust.se.alltele.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:41:59] <NanoSector> it does[16:42:20] <NanoSector> and the htitle extension was discontinued[16:43:08] <cybergnomer> that's crazy[16:43:27] *** filipvk1000 <filipvk1000!c1d9c2d9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.193.217.194.217> has joined #manjaro[16:43:40] <filipvk1000> Hi,is anybody here?[16:43:48] <cybergnomer> you are :)[16:44:06] <filipvk1000> Can someone tell me,is Manjaro going to shut down 32bit support because Arch is?[16:44:20] <cybergnomer> are you going to leave in 30 secs?[16:44:37] <filipvk1000> What?[16:44:56] <cybergnomer> lol.. we just had someone before you ask a question and leave immediately[16:45:23] <cybergnomer> but sorry, I don't know the answer to your question. Perhaps the forum might be a better place if you don't get an answer here[16:45:46] <filipvk1000> The answer is yes. I am going to leave.[16:45:49] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[16:45:57] *** filipvk1000 <filipvk1000!c1d9c2d9@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.193.217.194.217> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:46:01] <cybergnomer> lol[16:46:16] *** manTestDee <manTestDee!~Manjaro-D@41.160.245.231> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[16:47:41] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has joined #manjaro[16:49:04] <tmsbrdrs__> lol[16:56:06] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[16:58:07] <cybergnomer> It's amazing how Manjaro is #5 on Distrowatch[16:59:04] <cybergnomer> Only matter of little time before it overtakes Ubuntu for #3[16:59:14] <Joseph> cybergnomer: we'll see[16:59:15] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:59:20] <Joseph> cybergnomer: though overtaking Ubuntu is no easy feat[17:00:31] <cybergnomer> true. I checked the last 7 days, 30 days, and 3 months, and it is sitting well above Ubuntu in #3 position[17:00:35] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has joined #manjaro[17:00:50] <Joseph> What is?[17:00:55] <cybergnomer> Manjaro![17:00:58] <ShayBox> anyone have any cool programs, i wanna do some review videos :P[17:00:59] <Joseph> ...?[17:01:04] <Joseph> Manjaro is below Ubuntu, cybergnomer[17:01:16] <Joseph> You just said it's #5, and Ubuntu is #3[17:01:43] <cybergnomer> Joseph: for Last 6 months it is #5[17:02:10] <Joseph> Stop using "it"[17:02:13] <Joseph> Which distro do you mean?[17:02:59] <gawd> Daphile looks interesting[17:03:02] <cybergnomer> lol. Manjaro is #5 for Last 6 months period, but the other three shorter time periods i mentioned earlier Manjaro is at #3[17:03:21] <ShayBox> #3 of what?[17:03:34] <cybergnomer> ShayBox, Distrowatch list[17:03:39] <Joseph> ShayBox: https://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=1[17:03:40] <cybergnomer> http://distrowatch.com/index.php?dataspan=26[17:03:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/xtAj5L] DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.[17:03:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/8IQwOB] DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD.[17:03:54] <Joseph> cybergnomer: OK, that makes more sense now[17:03:57] <ShayBox> Lubuntu is #1? wow[17:04:01] <Joseph> the talk of "it" was confusing[17:04:07] <ShayBox> nvm,,,[17:04:25] <ShayBox> had irc blocking the list on the right of the page xD[17:04:33] <Joseph> what.[17:04:36] <Joseph> No, that's the latest release[17:04:46] <Joseph> It's a development release for this year[17:04:57] <Joseph> Look on the right-hand side, and select "Data span:"[17:05:01] <Joseph> And choose the latest time spans.[17:05:18] <ShayBox> i know, i already said i found the list[17:05:42] <Joseph> ShayBox: sorry, Tor is laggy as hell today, I was seeing <ShayBox> Lubuntu is #1? wow for a while[17:05:59] <ShayBox> arch is #12 LUL[17:06:24] <Joseph> What's cute is that Antergos, another Arch-base distro (like Manjaro is) also overtook Arch[17:06:25] <Joseph> lol[17:06:29] <ShayBox> mint is debian based right?[17:06:35] <cybergnomer> yes[17:06:39] <Joseph> Yes and no[17:06:44] <cybergnomer> ubuntu based, which is debian based[17:06:44] <Joseph> It's Ubuntu-based, ShayBox; but Ubuntu is based on Debian[17:06:53] *** Lemuriano <Lemuriano!~chatzilla@c-73-224-246-54.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[17:06:56] <Joseph> So it's kind of both in a way.[17:07:07] <ShayBox> LUL its higher than ubuntu itself[17:07:23] <Joseph> Mint is a very popular distro yeah[17:08:07] <ShayBox> Damn, steamos is 62... i'd expect that to be higher, but i guess people arent downloading that as much as it being pre-installed[17:10:12] <ShayBox> whats the best Tox client? there seems to be alot[17:11:11] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:11:26] <Joseph> ShayBox: I've used both qtox and utox, I think one of them is lighter than the other, can't remember which[17:11:27] <Joseph> ShayBox: However Tox is kind of a ... dead project because the main dev ran off with a bunch of money a while ago[17:11:27] <Joseph> ShayBox: so most people use other forms now, like OTR over XMPP for example[17:11:31] <Joseph> Goddamn it[17:11:32] <Joseph> am I lagged?[17:11:49] <Isaac> So since my soundcard isn't working I checked out pulseaudio volume control like someone here suggested and it turns out that apparently my card has all the jacks messed up[17:12:47] *** rumflump <rumflump!~weechat@unaffiliated/olscumpy> has joined #manjaro[17:13:06] <Isaac> It doesn't recognize my headphones at all, neither at start nor when I unplug them and put them back in. Though if I just trial and error the thing it seems like one of the 5.1 ports is "mistaken" as the line out port[17:13:15] <Isaac> not functional either though[17:14:09] <Isaac> Any suggestions how I could go about looking into the jacks and how they are detected?[17:14:19] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[17:17:08] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@host86-182-213-79.range86-182.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[17:18:06] *** Lemuriano <Lemuriano!~chatzilla@c-73-224-246-54.hsd1.fl.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.46/20161223082918])[17:18:08] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@host86-182-213-79.range86-182.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:18:35] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:18:48] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-178-007-001-061.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[17:20:58] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2804:18:4011:9e1f:e06f:46a:c034:e4ca> has joined #manjaro[17:21:26] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[17:25:04] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:25:11] *** balic <balic!~balic@95-178-201-216.dsl.optinet.hr> has joined #manjaro[17:25:26] *** balic <balic!~balic@95-178-201-216.dsl.optinet.hr> has left #manjaro[17:25:53] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[17:27:57] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2804:18:4011:9e1f:e06f:46a:c034:e4ca> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:30:34] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-178-007-001-061.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:42:35] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[17:42:42] <superbia> jeanieeee[17:47:02] *** dodgejcr <dodgejcr!~dodgejcr@24-40-239-211.fidnet.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:47:02] *** dodgejcr <dodgejcr!~dodgejcr@unaffiliated/dodgejcr> has joined #manjaro[17:47:02] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v dodgejcr[17:47:45] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[17:49:13] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[17:52:39] *** dalput <dalput!54c44a5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.196.74.92> has joined #manjaro[17:52:43] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[17:53:14] *** ffffffff <ffffffff!5d21a202@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.93.33.162.2> has joined #manjaro[17:53:49] <dalput> Just switched from Ubuntu to Manjaro, didn't change username and left the /home folder intact. Logged in but everything was ugly, so I did mv /homefolder /homefolderbackup. Now I can't login at all, the screen goes black and returns to login screen again. What is happening ? I've removed and added the user again but no succes.[17:54:19] *** ffffffff <ffffffff!5d21a202@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.93.33.162.2> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:54:54] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-178-007-001-061.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[17:55:15] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:55:32] <omarramo> hey guys, my grub only shows kernels that are not installed but doesnt show kernels that are installed even though I did update-grub[17:55:32] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[17:59:28] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@d92-110.icpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[18:00:06] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[18:00:18] <mike-zal> dalput: edit fstab file[18:00:36] <teeneebobby> dalput, After you mv homefolder[18:00:48] <mike-zal> and link it to your new home folder[18:00:52] <teeneebobby> I am assuming you recreated /home/username[18:00:57] *** alpha4 <alpha4!~gold@157.50.245.56> has joined #manjaro[18:01:05] <teeneebobby> mike-zal, Did he say mounted /home[18:01:11] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has left #manjaro[18:01:20] <mike-zal> teeneebobby: no, he did not[18:01:37] <manjaro> hello, i have a minor problem, i wanted to check out manjaro, and booted it from USB, i noticed that my cpu i running at 0% but my CPU load i around 1.30-1.60 avrage. Can this be realted to 4.4 kernel or just manjaro is resource hungry ? BTW i downloaded XFCE[18:02:26] <mike-zal> manjaro: manjaro is not resource hungry, especially xfce so it must be some bug[18:02:29] <manjaro> My laptop is shity intel 4700MQ/Radeon r7 combo[18:02:47] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@cpc5-hatf8-2-0-cust301.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[18:02:47] *** manj-1603-Lxde1 <manj-1603-Lxde1!~manjaro@cpc5-hatf8-2-0-cust301.9-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:02:59] <manjaro> with switchble card.. any way to fix it ? i want to use but i dont wont to burn down my CPU[18:03:19] <mike-zal> manjaro: you said it was 0%..[18:03:36] <Joseph> manjaro: I don't follow. didn't you say your CPU was idling?[18:03:38] <manjaro> my main system is Ubuntu 16.10 and there is all fine 0.10-0.15 on idle[18:03:44] <Joseph> manjaro: that is what 0% means[18:03:45] <manjaro> yes[18:03:57] <Joseph> ok. so what's this concern about your CPU "burning down" then?[18:03:58] <manjaro> i left it for 15 minutes[18:04:14] <Joseph> ...and what happened?[18:04:19] <mike-zal> I also don't get it[18:04:24] <manjaro> its getting hot around 60C on idle, so anything more instance will get it much hotter[18:04:38] <manjaro> intensive * i mean[18:04:51] <mike-zal> ?[18:05:00] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[18:05:01] <mike-zal> but you said 0%[18:05:03] <Joseph> manjaro: that may not be a manjaro issue, but a hardware issue; you may need to clean the heatsink, reapply thermal paste, etc[18:05:17] <Joseph> manjaro: if your CPU is idling that hot, that's a hardware issue generally[18:05:20] <Joseph> not an OS issue[18:05:28] <manjaro> yeah sure, but on ubuntu is all fine..[18:05:30] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[18:05:35] <Joseph> that makes no sense[18:05:41] <manjaro> yes it does[18:05:44] <manjaro> :([18:05:46] <mike-zal> manjaro: maybe xfce has some problem. try out another flavor[18:05:54] <Joseph> yeah, try switching DE's[18:05:58] <Joseph> but that's very odd[18:06:01] <manjaro> also i had to trun of vsync in xfce[18:06:23] <mike-zal> very odd, never heard about manjaro being cpu hungry before and running computer hot[18:06:25] <manjaro> i had screen lags .. maybe this will help ?[18:06:27] <Joseph> If you're at 0% CPU and it gets hot, I suspected it's something clogging the heatsink or it not evacuating heat efficiently, but if you say Ubuntu doesn't have it overheat[18:06:31] <Joseph> then I'm not sure what the issue is[18:06:33] <Joseph> that's very odd[18:07:15] <manjaro> i tired older version of manjaro in the past but i had the same problem every time[18:07:30] <manjaro> but maybe this time im gona fix it ! ?[18:07:35] <mike-zal> manjaro: then it sounds like a hardware issue with manjaro packages.[18:07:54] <manjaro> manjaro dosent like my PC[18:07:55] <mike-zal> try different DE and see if problem exists[18:08:00] <manjaro> lenovo shit..[18:08:08] <manjaro> i tried i3[18:08:13] <manjaro> same problem[18:08:21] <mike-zal> manjaro: usually I have opposite problem, my computers doesn't like ubuntu but are fine with manjaro ;P[18:08:42] <manjaro> hehe :) thats good :D[18:08:42] <hedgie> I still get no networking with newer kernels than the latest LTS one[18:08:50] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host205-100-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[18:09:00] <manjaro> i have now only hexchat opened and im getting this load average: 1.24, 1.24, 1.05[18:09:08] <hedgie> getting tempted to jump ship even if it means fighting with my nvidia drivers[18:09:10] <mike-zal> hedgie: that's an issue for forum[18:09:14] *** captainzer0 <captainzer0!~Thunderbi@2600:8807:8306:7600::1> has joined #manjaro[18:09:16] *** Dearu1 <Dearu1!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[18:09:16] <manjaro> when i open up firefox it will go up to 1.8/2[18:09:22] <hedgie> good idea, mike[18:09:22] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host205-100-dynamic.36-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:09:58] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[18:09:58] <manjaro> i know these are rookie numbers but my pc isnt a beast :([18:10:29] <mike-zal> manjaro: try mate or lxqt or openbox=mabox[18:10:40] <teeneebobby> manjaro, What is the percentage on the CPU?[18:10:44] <Joseph> manjaro: what?[18:10:52] <Joseph> manjaro: you said 0% CPU before[18:11:00] <Joseph> why are your uptime stats 1.24, 1.24, 1.05 then?[18:11:04] <manjaro> yes[18:11:08] <teeneebobby> You can 0% usage[18:11:14] <teeneebobby> but still have high load[18:11:17] <manjaro> and cpu usage i mean in task menager is 9[18:11:20] <manjaro> is 0*[18:11:21] <dalput> mike-zal: the /home is mounted[18:11:24] <Joseph> o.o[18:11:25] <dalput> teeneebobby: yes I did[18:11:36] <teeneebobby> The load is probably in a syscall[18:11:41] <dalput> teeneebobby: recreated the user and folder multiple times[18:11:41] <teeneebobby> Could be IO load[18:11:52] <teeneebobby> You need to look at sys us etc[18:11:58] <teeneebobby> in PS i think[18:12:09] <mike-zal> dalput: is fstab cosistent with new home?[18:12:15] <Joseph> manjaro: did you have a look at top or htop or whatever? see what could be bogging the CPU down?[18:12:17] <dalput> teeneebobby: I can login from GDM/LDM, but after a second or so after pressing "login" the screen goes black and goes to LDM/GDM again[18:12:23] <manjaro> ok, i have basic knowlage of IO, how can i check it in the terminal ?[18:12:31] <Joseph> <Joseph> manjaro: did you have a look at top or htop or whatever? see what could be bogging the CPU down?[18:12:32] <Joseph> ^[18:12:37] <manjaro> im using top[18:12:46] <Joseph> ok, what do you see at the top? the first few processes[18:12:56] <mike-zal> manjaro: htop is better and manjaro should have it, if not, install it[18:13:01] <dalput> mike-zal: what do you mean ? it's a UUID with mount point /home[18:13:03] <Joseph> yeah, htop is good[18:13:33] <dalput> mike-zal: if it wouldn't be, I couldn't be able to access it through tty right ?[18:14:20] <mike-zal> dalput: I don't have enough data but if your UUID and path are ok, then fstab is ok. I would look then for a ownership, groups, etc.[18:14:24] *** Aria22 <Aria22!~quassel@unaffiliated/aria22> has joined #manjaro[18:14:30] <Aria22> hi there :3[18:14:43] <Aria22> I was wondering if this laptop would be compatible with Manjaro? https://www.laptopshop.nl/product/716229/category-49541/asus-eeebook-r209ha-fd0070t.html[18:14:45] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/JtS6MF] Asus Eeebook R209HA-FD0070T - Laptopshop.nl[18:14:49] <Aria22> including stuff like WiFi[18:14:51] <mike-zal> dalput: because you have the home folder, it doesn't mean a new user have ownership on that folder[18:15:11] <teeneebobby> Then you need to look at the logs[18:15:15] <mike-zal> dalput: usually the previous user owns it[18:15:25] <teeneebobby> What does the logs say? you said you are using GDM[18:15:38] <dalput> mike-zal: chown -r vlad:vlad will do it ?[18:15:41] <teeneebobby> systemctl status gdm or /var/log/gdm.log[18:15:42] <mike-zal> ok, have to go for now (afk)[18:15:48] <Joseph> Aria22: I just installed Manjaro (with new 4.9.2 kernel) on a similar netbook, 2 GB RAM, Intel Atom, works well with everything[18:16:01] <manjaro> this is mine http://www.x-kom.pl/p/189786-notebook-laptop-156-lenovo-g510-i7-4700mq-8gb-1000-dvd-rw-r7-m265.html[18:16:03] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/2WQjpQ] Lenovo G510 i7-4700MQ/8GB/1000/DVD-RW R7 M265 - Notebooki / Laptopy 15,6" - Sklep komputerowy - x-kom.pl[18:16:03] <Aria22> Joseph: what about WiFi?[18:16:09] <manjaro> sorry its a polish site :([18:16:16] <manjaro> but specs are readble[18:16:20] <Joseph> Aria22: I don't understand this language so I was trying to find the wireless chipset[18:16:51] <Aria22> Joseph: Yeah, it's hard to find in other languages for some reason...[18:16:58] <mike-zal> manjaro: możesz odwiedzić #manjaropl mamy polską wersję manjaro na openboxie zwaną mabox[18:17:02] <dalput> mike-zal: did the chown, now the screen just goes black after logging in[18:17:06] <Joseph> goddamn it[18:17:11] <Joseph> I put the name of the thing in Google[18:17:15] <Joseph> all sites in Dutch[18:17:20] <Aria22> exactly[18:17:26] <Aria22> which kinda worries me[18:17:38] <Joseph> If you can tell me the wireless chipset in it, I can see if Linux supports it[18:17:41] <Aria22> that happens a lot on online stores, they have laptops that aren't known in other languages[18:17:43] <Aria22> hmmm[18:17:46] <Aria22> let's see[18:18:02] <Joseph> Aria22: a word of warning, things like Realtek tend to work. Broadcom is iffy[18:18:06] <Joseph> that's the general gist of things[18:18:12] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@pool-108-21-233-179.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[18:18:23] <dalput> teeneebobby: nothing special in lightdm logs[18:18:39] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@pool-108-21-233-179.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:18:55] <dalput> teeneebobby: it's all creating and logging in, the last one is "waiting for ready signal from X server"[18:18:57] <Aria22> Joseph: Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377[18:19:04] <mike-zal> dalput: have to go for now. you can log in with tty and check ownership and all of that stuff and change it if you did something wrong[18:19:05] <Aria22> Joseph: https://nl.hardware.info/product/335222/asus-eeebook-r209ha-fd0013ts/specificaties[18:19:06] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/3KMbM3] ASUS Eeebook R209HA-FD0013TS specificaties[18:19:09] <dalput> teeneebobby: weird thing is, the first time it started just fine with my old user folder[18:19:10] <Joseph> Aria22: legit. Atheros tends to work, but let me have a quick look[18:19:17] <Aria22> okay[18:19:20] <dalput> mike-zal: doing just that. thanks, good luck ![18:19:44] <Aria22> next to that... perhaps it's better if I buy a laptop that's globally known about. Any advice on a laptop below $300 (or euros) that's 11inch and lightweight?[18:19:49] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@p5B3C9F48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[18:19:50] <Aria22> (it's supposed to replace my broken smartphone)[18:19:57] <teeneebobby> dalput, If it's waiting for X server, maybe X server didn't start[18:20:06] <teeneebobby> Did you look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log[18:20:12] <manjaro> is it posible to change kernel in live session ?[18:20:26] <teeneebobby> no[18:20:39] <alpha4> i got some issue in manjaro gnome http://pastebin.com/kPkzf3qs[18:20:40] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/UtYcnA] Jan 22 17:29:26 ayyanar-pc kernel: ata1.01: failed to resume link (SControl 0) - Pastebin.com[18:20:46] <teeneebobby> Because when you reboot into new for the new kernel, all changes are all lost[18:20:54] <dalput> teeneebobby: file doesn't exist, nothing starting with X in /var/log[18:21:02] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@p5B3C9F48.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:21:16] <dalput> teeneebobby: only lightdm[18:21:18] <Joseph> you are in luck Aria22 :) https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/log/?qt=grep&q=QCA9377[18:21:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/S9WJup] kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git - Repository of firmware blobs for use with the Linux kernel[18:21:31] <Aria22> Oh, good![18:21:45] <Joseph> that's from the git repo of the Linux kernel itself[18:21:48] <Joseph> so it looks promising[18:22:33] <teeneebobby> dalput, Maybe you need rsyslog for that, no too sure.. but if LightDM starts, then X starts fine,if you can't login into DE, then there issue with the DE, maybe it needs files from /etc/skel, try copies does files into your know folder and make sure you permissions are set properly[18:22:50] <Aria22> yes, I saw :D[18:23:01] <dalput> teeneebobby: I'll just reinstall manjaro, it's quick anyway and nothing is lost[18:23:07] <dalput> teeneebobby: takes less time[18:23:10] <teeneebobby> have fun[18:23:21] <dalput> thanks for your time[18:23:27] <teeneebobby> yup[18:23:50] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:23:58] *** Zaqudon <Zaqudon!5ae8fa88@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.90.232.250.136> has joined #manjaro[18:24:06] <Aria22> ugh. What's up with USA laptops not being for sale in Europe, and European laptops not being for sale in the US?..[18:24:12] <alpha4> teeneebobby: i got some issue in manjaro gnome http://pastebin.com/kPkzf3qs[18:24:12] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/UtYcnA] Jan 22 17:29:26 ayyanar-pc kernel: ata1.01: failed to resume link (SControl 0) - Pastebin.com[18:24:44] <manjaro> THIS IS WIERD i was looking for solution online and my cpu magicky droped .... to 0.15 with firefox opend...[18:25:32] *** captainzer0 <captainzer0!~Thunderbi@2600:8807:8306:7600::1> has quit IRC (Quit: captainzer0)[18:25:40] *** Zaqudon <Zaqudon!5ae8fa88@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.90.232.250.136> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:26:04] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has joined #manjaro[18:26:40] <manjaro> manjaro fixedit self[18:28:00] <alpha4> hello[18:28:13] <alpha4> anyone there[18:28:31] <teeneebobby> Reinstall :)[18:28:44] <alpha4> for me[18:29:07] <alpha4> or for manjaro[18:29:51] <Aria22> Joseph: Okay.. so WiFi works. What about the GPU, sound, webcam?..[18:30:30] <alpha4> for webcam install chess[18:30:44] <alpha4> sorry cheese[18:30:53] <Aria22> alpha4: It's more about whether the hardware will work, it's a laptop i'm looking at but haven't bought yet[18:31:42] <alpha4> i never install software for webcam just use webccam software it works[18:31:46] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[18:32:44] *** alpha4 <alpha4!~gold@157.50.245.56> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:33:26] <teeneebobby> AFAIK, UVC i think it's called[18:33:33] <teeneebobby> dmesg | grep uvc[18:33:38] <teeneebobby> DId it find your webcame?[18:33:55] <teeneebobby> If it did, then it's likely to work[18:34:30] *** captainzer0 <captainzer0!~Thunderbi@2600:8807:8306:7600::1> has joined #manjaro[18:34:46] <Joseph> Aria22: there's little chance that an integrated Intel GPU won't work, and sound, unless it is some complicated 7.1 surround system, tends to work out of the box[18:35:01] *** whytrytofly 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<manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@pD9E1BC18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:00:31] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:01:28] *** xyz-xyz <xyz-xyz!~rr@pD9E1BC18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[19:02:12] *** ziggys <ziggys!~ziggys@gateway/tor-sasl/ziggys> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[19:02:28] <xyz-xyz> join xxx-yyy-zzz[19:03:54] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:74e2:b209:15a8:b563> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:04:11] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:74e2:b209:15a8:b563> has joined #manjaro[19:04:44] *** donald_duk2310 <donald_duk2310!~donald_du@193.40.148.245> has joined #manjaro[19:05:52] *** donald_duk2310 <donald_duk2310!~donald_du@193.40.148.245> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:06:03] *** manjaro-web|9088 <manjaro-web|9088!bbf7ab94@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.187.247.171.148> has joined #manjaro[19:06:45] <manjaro-web|9088> i need help to install manjaro, somebody can help ?[19:10:04] *** manjaro-web|9088 <manjaro-web|9088!bbf7ab94@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.187.247.171.148> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:10:31] <xyz-xyz> whats ure prob ?[19:10:36] <Strit_Laptop> If you didn't leave so quickly, we might.[19:11:07] <ringo> hej[19:11:21] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@h85-30-25-251.cust.se.alltele.net> has joined #manjaro[19:11:36] *** manjaroi3 is now known as slalompaw[19:12:08] *** enkeys_ <enkeys_!~enkeys@178.162.211.215> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:12:13] *** slalompaw <slalompaw!~manjaro-i@h85-30-25-251.cust.se.alltele.net> has left #manjaro[19:14:15] *** xyz-xyz <xyz-xyz!~rr@pD9E1BC18.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:15:22] *** k0mat3 <k0mat3!~manjaro-k@2a00:d780:42a0:3400:6345:c4a8:2e62:5086> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:15:34] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ip-147.net-89-2-35.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[19:15:42] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:16:40] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has joined #manjaro[19:17:26] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.153> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[19:17:50] <Joseph> There we go again[19:17:57] <Joseph> >> heyy i need help plshelp[19:18:03] <Joseph> *leaves in 2 seconds*[19:18:19] <manots> Been happening for 2 years now[19:18:39] <Strit_Laptop> Was actually 4 minutes this time.[19:19:03] <Joseph> Yeah[19:20:03] *** k0mat3 <k0mat3!~manjaro-k@2a00:d780:42a0:3400:6345:c4a8:2e62:5086> has joined #manjaro[19:23:10] <teeneebobby> What do you mean?[19:23:16] *** teeneebobby is now known as BugzBunny[19:23:55] * BugzBunny believes people is over exaggerating[19:24:02] *** chomwitt <chomwitt!~chomwitt@athedsl-31597.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[19:25:34] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[19:40:48] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@130.43.3.248.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:41:28] *** dalput <dalput!54c44a5c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.196.74.92> has joined #manjaro[19:41:31] <dalput> Manjaro is messing with my head :p Reinstalled it. When I log in the XFCE session is completely stripped: no themes or fancy icons, everything looks ugly. How is this possible ?[19:41:46] <dalput> Empty /home folder[19:42:27] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[19:43:49] <Strit_Laptop> I've had this happen to. Make sure you have "manjaro-xfce-settings" package installed, then do "cp -r /etc/skel/* ~/"[19:44:45] *** floown <floown!~quassel@2a02-8420-5a09-be00-4ca1-bb39-f6bf-c81e.rev.sfr.net> has joined #manjaro[19:44:45] *** floown <floown!~quassel@2a02-8420-5a09-be00-4ca1-bb39-f6bf-c81e.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[19:44:45] *** floown <floown!~quassel@unaffiliated/fanchon> has joined #manjaro[19:45:50] <dalput> is it possible that the skel folder is empty even with manjaro settings installed ? Strit_Laptop[19:46:09] <dalput> Strit_Laptop: oh wait, nvm, it's all .dot files[19:47:09] <BugzBunny> "Reinstalled it" ""manjaro-xfce-settings" package installed, then do "cp -r /etc/skel/* ~/"" what?[19:47:33] <BugzBunny> So the Installation failed to copy over the skel files?[19:48:18] <Strit_Laptop> dalput: yep[19:48:48] <dalput> BugzBunny: so it seems... Xfce is completely naked. Just read the wiki, I should of formatted my /home folder for changes to happen[19:48:57] <dalput> copied the skel folder, it still all looks the same[19:50:12] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out)[19:50:38] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-010-162.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[19:51:00] <BugzBunny> I don't what Xfce Manjaro should look like[19:51:17] <dalput> BugzBunny: like the screenshots on the main site[19:51:28] <dalput> BugzBunny: now it's just vanilla XFCE[19:51:36] <dalput> brb, gonna reinstall everything again -_-[19:51:42] <BugzBunny> First of all[19:51:47] <BugzBunny> WTF, you got you ISO from?[19:51:53] <BugzBunny> And what ISO are you using?[19:51:59] <dalput> Manjaro website, fringilla[19:52:03] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:52:21] <BugzBunny> How are you installing it? From USB or CDROM/DVD?[19:52:29] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip68-3-61-155.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[19:52:39] <dalput> the same I installed on this laptop I'm using and everything worked fine. I installed the other one over my ubuntu setup, formatted everything except for the /home folder, just renamed my main user to userbackup[19:52:42] <dalput> BugzBunny: usb[19:52:50] <Strit_Laptop> dalput: did you relog after cipying?[19:52:55] <dalput> Strit_Laptop: yes[19:53:17] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip68-3-61-155.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:53:32] <BugzBunny> Did you verify the ISO and make sure the shit is not crippled?[19:53:32] <dalput> Strit_Laptop: even a ldm restart[19:53:48] *** badbodh <badbodh!~androirc@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[19:53:51] <dalput> BugzBunny: no[19:54:07] <BugzBunny> BTW, how are you imagine the USB?[19:54:27] <dalput> BugzBunny: DD[19:54:28] <BugzBunny> Funny shit happens, depends how the ISO is image on the USB, to corrupted download[19:55:24] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~king1337@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has joined #manjaro[19:57:20] *** badbodh <badbodh!~androirc@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:57:24] <dalput> sha1sum -c isofile says "no properly formatted SHA1 checksum lines found"[19:58:06] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@m77-218-59-191.cust.tele2.ee> has joined #manjaro[19:58:29] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has joined #manjaro[19:58:59] <Strit_Laptop> my suggestion should still have worked.[19:59:19] <BugzBunny> I made the same suggestion earlier[19:59:34] <BugzBunny> But on a fucking reinstall bro?[19:59:46] *** vinini <vinini!~vini@dsl217-132-53-79.bb.netvision.net.il> has joined #manjaro[19:59:51] *** vinini <vinini!~vini@dsl217-132-53-79.bb.netvision.net.il> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:59:54] <BugzBunny> So that means, after you install, you need to a f'ing extra step? Strit_Laptop[20:00:05] <BugzBunny> Think about that for 1 moment :)[20:00:22] <Strit_Laptop> If he does not overwrite his home folder, where old settings are kept, yes.[20:00:54] <dalput> Strit_Laptop *is* right[20:01:03] <dalput> that's also what the wiki says, but it didn't work for me :/[20:01:20] <dalput> I made sure I've copied the right files (checked) and gave them the right permissions with chown[20:04:33] <BugzBunny> You fucking said[20:04:36] <BugzBunny> I reinstall[20:04:49] <BugzBunny> What fucking wiki are you reading? wiki.manjaro.org?[20:05:07] <BugzBunny> What the fuck do you copy skeleton files to you home dir after install[20:05:11] <BugzBunny> Fuck me..[20:05:23] <BugzBunny> Well, good, I have no fucking idea what's going.. good luck[20:05:25] <Joseph> BugzBunny: Chill the hell out[20:05:56] <BugzBunny> When it's to support, my only grip, is people don't give you the information you need to know[20:05:57] *** notthisjef <notthisjef!55d452b8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.212.82.184> has joined #manjaro[20:07:22] <dalput> BugzBunny: you dear sir are a cunt. but anyway... yes I did a reinstall, the wiki says if you don't format the /home folder (which I didn't), it won't copy the settings or w/e and the DE will just look vanilla. Now, I'm going to reinstall again but this time with a format of the /home folder which should work. I did read the Manjaro wiki indeed.[20:07:58] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[20:08:26] <dalput> My guess is that the skel files are the standard settings ?[20:08:41] <BugzBunny> I have no problem being a cunt and proud being cunt, with that said, I've installed multiple distros during my experience using Linux for the past 15 years[20:08:50] <Strit_Laptop> Skel files are the standard settings for new users.[20:08:56] <dalput> BugzBunny: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Installation_Guides#Overview[20:08:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bnvXjZ] Installation Guides - Manjaro Linux[20:09:00] <BugzBunny> First time I head, you mount a /home that already exist, it doesn't copy shit over[20:09:00] <dalput> read[20:09:07] <Joseph> Is this a newcomer hazing channel now?[20:09:38] <dalput> My thought was that I could install Manjaro without formatting the home folder, create a new user and start copying *some* files and settings that I would need.[20:09:48] <meskarune> BugzBunny: installing distsros doesn't mean anything lol[20:09:50] <dalput> But it didn't work out that way[20:10:03] *** manjaro-web|1610 <manjaro-web|1610!6c529a6c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.82.154.108> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:10:16] <BugzBunny> meskarune, I was using one kernel, with one /boot, with one /home, for multiple kernels[20:10:20] <BugzBunny> WTF you talking about[20:10:43] <meskarune> "I've installed multiple distros during my experience using Linux for the past 15 years"[20:10:45] <ringo> always messy to use old home[20:10:47] <BugzBunny> OpenSUSE was the only distro I cam across the biggeist culprit in terms of tools[20:11:08] <dalput> ringo: hehe figured that out :p next time I'm backing it up on a drive[20:11:13] <BugzBunny> meskarune, I am elaborating that that statement means, so, you saying doesn't mean shit?[20:11:32] <ringo> but i dont use multi distro[20:11:36] <meskarune> it doesn't matter how many distros you have installed and used, or how long you have used linux, what matters is practical knowledge and contributions to FOSS[20:11:40] <BugzBunny> mutple distros*[20:11:42] <ringo> no experience to gain from[20:11:51] <ringo> only fun[20:12:01] <BugzBunny> meskarune, So, you don't dispute it, you just want to highlight that for no reason[20:12:06] <Joseph> Yeah, and "contributions to FOSS" don't include newcomer hazing and going on long f-bomb-loaded tirades in support channels.[20:12:08] <meskarune> people have hard ons for penis measuring contests, but they are pointless and don't actually say anything about what you know[20:12:38] <BugzBunny> meskarune, Pfff, that's restarted and you must haven't been here long enough, Freenode[20:12:58] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[20:13:16] <BugzBunny> I have no fucking penis to measure, or some ego to produce.. However, I don't mind being honest, you can hit that ignore button if you don't like[20:13:25] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[20:14:25] <meskarune> BugzBunny: its a metaphorical penis. The phrase is an english idiom[20:14:40] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has joined #manjaro[20:15:00] *** manjaro-web|4341 <manjaro-web|4341!6404d41f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.100.4.212.31> has joined #manjaro[20:15:31] *** manjaro-web|4341 <manjaro-web|4341!6404d41f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.100.4.212.31> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:15:54] *** manjaro-jwm is now known as holmeslinux[20:16:08] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has quit IRC (Changing host)[20:16:08] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@unaffiliated/holmeslinux> has joined #manjaro[20:16:08] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v holmeslinux[20:16:17] <BugzBunny> meskarune, I know what it is[20:16:30] <meskarune> BugzBunny: it is perfectly reasonable for someone to ask if you have read the wiki when you keep asking things that are answered in the wiki[20:17:04] <BugzBunny> First of all, you think that's my issue?[20:17:23] <Joseph> Nobody cares what your issue is, we just want you to settle down and not jump on newcomers.[20:17:28] <Joseph> So just chill out.[20:17:33] <BugzBunny> Fuck no[20:17:43] <BugzBunny> Hit that ignore button[20:17:43] <holmeslinux> [Test] Manjaro JWM Oncremmer 17.01rc (Code 28117) in http://bit.ly/2jIEMW1[20:17:45] <Botergos> [No short url] [Test] Manjaro JWM Oncremmer 17.01rc (Code 28117) - Support for Community Editions - Manjaro[20:17:48] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[20:18:03] <BugzBunny> You don't like what I am saying, then hit the ignore button[20:18:25] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@196-210-243-34.dynamic.isadsl.co.za> has joined #manjaro[20:18:32] <Joseph> It doesn't matter what we like or don't, the fact is, your kind of rhetoric is what pushes people away from projects and FOSS in general.[20:18:43] <meskarune> ^[20:19:23] <BugzBunny> Regardless you opinion is, my 100MB logs prove otherwise[20:19:27] <meskarune> you don't get to be all "I'm a long time linux user" and use that as a way to get away with being a dick, you don't get more respect from that, you get it by earning it in channel[20:19:43] <BugzBunny> So, you can say you shit, without any fucking merit[20:19:52] <dalput> +1 meskarune[20:20:03] <BugzBunny> I don't fucking care[20:20:11] <BugzBunny> I hit the ignore button[20:20:23] <dodgejcr> how about this... all of you take the petty arguing to a different channel or private messaging?[20:20:27] <meskarune> lol[20:20:31] <BugzBunny> Nope[20:20:32] *** manjaro-web|1653 <manjaro-web|1653!b9802982@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.185.128.41.130> has joined #manjaro[20:20:57] <BugzBunny> Don't fucking care[20:21:30] <BugzBunny> I not fucking change or how I do things because some new people come in.. then say.. wow.. the past year is some distant memory[20:22:37] <Strit_Laptop> Watch the language in here.[20:22:39] *** manjaro-web|1653 <manjaro-web|1653!b9802982@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.185.128.41.130> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:23:36] <BugzBunny> No fucking way[20:23:51] *** ChanServ sets mode: +o Strit_Laptop[20:24:34] <BugzBunny> Yes fucking ban me[20:24:43] <dodgejcr> BugzBunny: You have helped people in here for months. We havent had a problem with you for the most part. This is simply sad that you have come to this[20:25:25] <dalput> :/ this is sad indeed.[20:26:06] <dodgejcr> You know my requests of everyone in here. We dont like the arguing, the pettyness, the stupidity or anything like that. I simply ask that you guys take it to a different channel or a private message. Its not that hard and it is respect for the channel admins[20:26:14] <BugzBunny> Fine[20:26:27] <Strit_Laptop> exactly[20:26:36] <BugzBunny> Atleast you acknowlege my contributions in the room[20:27:00] <dodgejcr> and Im asking you because in the past we were cool and showed respect to one another, you know if it were anyone else, you would have already been muted and possibly kicked/banned.[20:27:00] <BugzBunny> Regardless, don't pretend, stuff just changed, when needed ops.. no one was around[20:27:11] <BugzBunny> I had to highlight you guys to get active in the room[20:28:06] <BugzBunny> Now, you go speak in you secret channels, now all OPs are suddenly active?[20:28:32] <Aria22> ...what's happening?[20:28:47] <Joseph> Aria22: nothing important. I'm just waiting for it to die down[20:29:00] <BugzBunny> dodgejcr, You think I would have cared if I was not anyone else[20:29:02] <Strit_Laptop> OP's are active on very different times of the day,[20:29:09] <BugzBunny> Right, I got logs[20:29:27] <dalput> Joseph: TL;DR I asked a question, it got blown out of proportion[20:29:37] <Joseph> dalput: I saw it all, yes.[20:29:52] <Aria22> Oh, but aren't proportions non-existent on the internet?[20:29:57] <Joseph> :P[20:29:58] <Aria22> EVERYTHING IS CHAOS[20:30:11] <dodgejcr> BugzBunny: not sure where you are trying to go so I will just say my final. Out of respect for you and what you have done here. I ask that you lay off and calm down. Thats it, nothing more. No more discussion here about it.[20:30:24] <dalput> Joseph: sorry, was meant for Aria22[20:30:33] <Joseph> dalput: Ah.[20:31:00] <Aria22> thank you :)[20:34:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: -o Strit_Laptop[20:36:02] *** space_otter <space_otter!~space_ott@2602:306:32e8:cf60:a284:ed24:cb0f:59> has joined #manjaro[20:36:23] * ringo eats some chips[20:37:32] <BugzBunny> dodgejcr, I am here, wtf you mean?[20:38:43] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[20:39:14] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has quit IRC (Quit: bbl)[20:41:04] <dalput> if anyone's interested... reinstalled Manjaro with /home format; everything works great.[20:41:13] <Joseph> dalput: Yay! :)[20:41:18] <Strit_Laptop> dalput: good to hear[20:41:24] <dalput> dont know why copying skel files didnt work though[20:41:41] <meskarune> dalput: \o/[20:41:58] <dalput> now let's get this Arch learning curve started :}[20:42:22] <meskarune> well, manjaro and arch are pretty different :P[20:42:34] <meskarune> but you should be able to learn quite a bit[20:43:20] <meskarune> manjaro is a very unique distro all its own[20:43:22] <dalput> Is Manjaro and Arch comparable like Ubuntu and Debian ?[20:43:22] <Rayzake> Mmm, is Manjaro beginner-friendly also is it have live DVD (or USB)? Thanks in advance.[20:44:02] <dalput> meskarune: I've installed Manjaro on my gf's laptop and been playing around with it a bit. I was bored of my Ubuntu desktop, but didn't want to jump on Arch because it seemed to hard. Manjaro seemed like the best option.[20:44:36] <dalput> meskarune: I guess the most important thing for me is that it's arch based and comes with preloaded software (especially DE)[20:44:40] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has joined #manjaro[20:45:40] <Joseph> Rayzake: Yes, live distros exist, and it's easy to use :)[20:45:58] <Rayzake> Ok Thanks. :)[20:46:20] *** freecores <freecores!~freecores@ip30-67-214-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl> has joined #manjaro[20:47:22] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:47:26] <meskarune> dalput: I mean, its really not arch at all[20:48:08] <meskarune> manjaro has their own repos and stuff[20:48:13] <meskarune> they don't even use the arch ones[20:48:39] <meskarune> note them being different doesn't make it bad[20:49:10] <BugzBunny> Manjaro bad ROFL[20:49:13] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:49:36] <BugzBunny> The #1 reason I liked helping here because this was the best community[20:49:39] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[20:50:10] <meskarune> some people interpret "manjaro isn't arch" to imply that one is better than another, which isn't the case, they are just different things[20:50:19] <meskarune> so I'm being clear[20:50:31] <BugzBunny> How is you classes?[20:50:38] <BugzBunny> Online classes?[20:50:51] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:50:58] <meskarune> good, I recently taught a git class and pkgbuild class[20:51:02] <meskarune> I'm working on organizing more[20:51:07] <BugzBunny> k[20:51:08] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[20:51:25] <meskarune> why?[20:51:42] <BugzBunny> I didn't forget what you do here[20:51:45] <dalput> meskarune: yeah that's kinda what I thought[20:52:50] <meskarune> BugzBunny: no matter what people do or how long they contribute it is not a reason to get away with being rude to someone[20:53:08] <meskarune> it goes for me as well as anyone[20:53:20] <meskarune> but anyways, this is offtopic[20:53:33] <meskarune> the OPs asked for people to stop with this[20:53:35] *** piffle <piffle!~jj@121-73-9-217.cable.telstraclear.net> has joined #manjaro[20:53:43] <dalput> meskarune: afaik yaourt is the go to installer from AUR, am I right ? I've browsed the wiki and there seemed to be more, but yaourt seems to be the preference[20:53:50] *** Dippy <Dippy!~manjaro-k@151.237.25.139> has joined #manjaro[20:53:57] <meskarune> I like pacaur the most[20:54:01] <meskarune> but use whatever you like[20:54:54] <NanoSector> i prefer pacaur as well[20:55:06] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:56:58] <dalput> what annoys me about yaourt are the nagging questions "would you like to edit X" etc.[20:57:00] <dalput> will try pacaur[20:57:48] <piffle> I always just download and follow instructions manually. Am I missing out on something?[20:58:08] <NanoSector> dalput, pacaur asks you everything in the beginning[20:58:18] <NanoSector> after answering the questions you can pretty much leave it unattended[21:01:21] <meskarune> ^ I really like that[21:01:41] <meskarune> dalput: its important to learn how to read PKGBUILD files though, so you understand what is happening to your system[21:02:06] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[21:03:36] <meskarune> dalput: `man PKGBUILD` will explain what each thing in a PKGBUILD does, and you can look at the prototype while you read the man page to compare[21:03:36] *** emptynine <emptynine!tkk@cybertron.nullroute.info> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[21:04:06] <d42> bunch of metadata and a shell script[21:04:11] <d42> there isn't much to learn there :^)[21:06:17] <meskarune> the package() function is one of the more important bits to pay attention to. You can see if something put anything malicious there[21:06:18] <meskarune> or made a mistake that would be bad[21:06:19] <meskarune> like if you see "install -m 777"[21:07:00] <NanoSector> yaourt also sources pkgbuilds before parsing them[21:07:04] <NanoSector> or so the arch wiki says[21:08:23] <dalput> nice[21:12:27] <Celmor> the arch wiki also advices against yaourt[21:12:41] <Celmor> pacaur which octopi would use is better[21:14:04] *** k0mat3 <k0mat3!~manjaro-k@2a00:d780:42a0:3400:6345:c4a8:2e62:5086> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:16:51] *** Dearu1 <Dearu1!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Dearu1)[21:17:08] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@95.67.89.223> has joined #manjaro[21:17:55] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:19:10] <mike-zal> arch wiki should also advise agains AUR since it's not supervised resource, full of crap, outdated and badly mainatained packages. no? it's too useful despite its cons? the same is with yaourt.[21:19:41] <NanoSector> octopi can use pacaur[21:19:50] <meskarune> mike-zal: well, its gotten far better after the reboot[21:19:51] <NanoSector> i maintain pamac-pacaur in AUR[21:20:14] <meskarune> and I think they are being more strict with removing poorly maintained packages[21:20:14] *** Thorax <Thorax!~Thorax@94.197.121.25.threembb.co.uk> has joined #manjaro[21:20:51] <BugzBunny> meskarune, I don't care, if that's your reasoning why I do it, then so bit... If you think my experience is the reason I am cunt, then believe that[21:21:01] <BugzBunny> Anyway...[21:21:05] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@m77-218-59-191.cust.tele2.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: byezzz)[21:21:09] <BugzBunny> I need some Anime to watch[21:21:10] <meskarune> dude take it to a pm[21:21:22] <BugzBunny> Nope[21:22:56] <BugzBunny> http://www.englishanimes.com/watch/kiss-him-not-me-episode-6-dub-online/?vid=1[21:22:57] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/um7aO5] Watch Kiss Him Not Me Episode 6 in English Dub Online[21:23:45] <meskarune> I gotta update my i3lock-fancy package on the AUR[21:24:49] <NanoSector> i should look at fixing up pantheon[21:27:00] <meskarune> I've been meaning to install pantheon in a vm and check it out[21:27:03] <meskarune> it looks nice[21:27:12] <NanoSector> pantheon on arch is a mess[21:27:37] <NanoSector> i doubt it still works actually[21:28:04] <meskarune> D:[21:28:28] * NanoSector tries[21:29:09] <NanoSector> i was also meaning to create stable packages and not just -bzr ones[21:29:12] <NanoSector> but meh[21:29:28] <meskarune> how often do they do releases?[21:29:28] <NanoSector> yeah gala-bzr is broken at least[21:29:39] <NanoSector> they update their components individually[21:29:57] <NanoSector> http://feeds.launchpad.net/elementary/announcements.atom[21:29:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/PkNBuR] (not a web page, content type: application/atom+xml)[21:30:34] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[21:30:45] <meskarune> oh I see[21:31:02] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@196-210-243-34.dynamic.isadsl.co.za> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:31:15] <NanoSector> so now that it's broken i guess it's time to create stable pkgbuilds. woo.[21:31:17] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[21:31:36] <meskarune> \o/[21:32:54] <dalput> mike-zal: I thought AUR was like the best software repo ?[21:33:03] <NanoSector> apparently they don't release stable versions for Gala[21:36:58] <NanoSector> yeah, i've tried to cooperate with the maintainer of the other half of the packages but never got a response[21:37:04] <NanoSector> so i guessi t'll stay broken then[21:38:26] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, you suppose to be doing homework[21:38:35] <NanoSector> it's saturday[21:38:43] <BugzBunny> oO[21:38:58] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@213.14.154.77> has joined #manjaro[21:39:01] * BugzBunny complains to NanoSector teacher[21:39:04] <meskarune> dalput: its just regular users like you or I who contribute to it[21:39:14] <meskarune> dalput: so it depends on how much you trust them :P[21:39:18] <NanoSector> BugzBunny, nobody does homework on saturday[21:39:20] <meskarune> basically anyone can upload whatever they like[21:39:24] <BugzBunny> Lies[21:40:04] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:40:43] <dalput> meskarune: essentially it's like adding an apt source and downloading from there. also user maintained ?[21:41:17] <meskarune> well not really because no one checks or tests packages on AUR and they aren't generally signed[21:41:28] <meskarune> really you have to read the PKGBUILD and check that things seem ok yourself[21:41:32] <dalput> meskarune: apt sources are ?[21:41:50] *** Digitteknohippie <Digitteknohippie!~user@fsf/member/digit> has joined #manjaro[21:41:56] <dalput> meskarune: if someone maintains a pool of packages, for example, beta version of some program (downloading clementine player as we speak)[21:42:00] <meskarune> so the AUR is actually not the same as a distro repository[21:42:31] <meskarune> I don't recomend installing a ton of beta versions of software[21:42:41] <meskarune> doing that can destabilize your system[21:43:01] <dalput> meskarune: yes ofcourse, but clementine beta is just very nice. usually I stick with the stable software except for google-chrome :p[21:43:17] <NanoSector> why do you use google-chrome and not chromium?[21:43:19] <dalput> I'll be reading up on the software then[21:43:32] <dalput> NanoSector: syncing with google[21:43:38] <NanoSector> chromium does that too[21:43:40] <manjaro-rw> s.a[21:43:55] <NanoSector> south america?[21:43:59] <dalput> NanoSector: couldn't figure out how, used Chromium since they've dropped support for 32bit (my old ubuntu was 32 bit)[21:44:17] <dalput> NanoSector: Chrome you just sign in and poof, it syncs[21:44:25] <NanoSector> same way as with chrome[21:44:28] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1EFFFDBB1035B9995098.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:44:30] <dalput> Chromium you need some api keys and what not.[21:44:34] <NanoSector> not really[21:44:38] <dalput> the syncing never worked out for me[21:44:54] <dalput> plus built in flash[21:44:55] *** Digit <Digit!~user@fsf/member/digit> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:45:00] <manjaro-rw> airties 2411 wifi adaptor problem[21:45:13] <manjaro-rw> drivers[21:45:16] <NanoSector> i don't want flash on my system[21:45:16] <manjaro-rw> help[21:45:29] <NanoSector> manjaro-rw, describe your problem please[21:45:45] <manjaro-rw> ok[21:45:52] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has left #manjaro[21:45:54] <BugzBunny> ArchLinux ftw, beta software only[21:45:59] <BugzBunny> Work 100%[21:46:08] <BugzBunny> Except for lightdm that segfaults[21:46:12] <NanoSector> BugzBunny, not recommended[21:46:23] <NanoSector> it might work but it's not recommended[21:47:05] <dalput> NanoSector: I do need flash for some things[21:47:11] <NanoSector> ok[21:47:13] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, you can dispute that Manjaro is based on Arch?[21:47:19] <BugzBunny> xD[21:47:22] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:47:25] <NanoSector> BugzBunny, did i say that?[21:47:33] <meskarune> dalput: anyways, the main repos are packaged by developers and tested, the AUR is totally untested and possible unsafe so thats why people should read the PKGBUILD before installing[21:47:54] <manjaro-rw> NanoSector, ndiswrapper install help[21:48:06] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[21:48:06] <NanoSector> manjaro-rw, *what* do you need help with[21:48:13] <NanoSector> manjaro-rw, you're not describing the issue[21:48:15] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, what AnterOS and Manjaro is trying to solve[21:48:17] <meskarune> dalput: and the AUR is not officially supported[21:48:32] <NanoSector> BugzBunny, manjaro might be based on the same technologies as arch but it is different from arch[21:48:40] <meskarune> if something from there breaks things its the users responsibility[21:48:43] *** Hexxium <Hexxium!49d5cbe0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.213.203.224> has joined #manjaro[21:48:46] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[21:49:22] <Hexxium> Hello![21:49:36] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, I personally think it is... I don't mind being honest about it.. The team is small and they do some very odd configurations[21:49:58] <NanoSector> ok, but your opinion isn't fact[21:50:14] <NanoSector> hey Hexxium[21:50:28] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, LOL :) Okay, but my experience tells me otherwise.. the one that meskarune want's to discredit[21:50:31] *** egrain <egrain!thomas@195-154-114-223.rev.poneytelecom.eu> has joined #manjaro[21:50:34] <dalput> meskarune: got it![21:51:19] <manjaro-rw> I can not install wifi adapter I need help[21:51:29] <egrain> how can i find out what the newst openssl version is?[21:51:32] <dalput> NanoSector BugzBunny from what I've read and heard Manjaro to Arch is what Ubuntu is to Debian. Unique in their own ways with own repos etc.[21:51:34] <meskarune> BugzBunny: take it to a PM dude. I swear you are just pushing to force the OPs to kick you. :/[21:51:34] <BugzBunny> To be fair, all distros have their own problem[21:51:50] <BugzBunny> meskarune, Then have them kick me[21:52:08] <meskarune> can you just stop or talk somewhere else like they asked?[21:52:14] <NanoSector> dalput, imagine writing a book and then having someone take your book, and extending it. is it still the same book?[21:52:30] <BugzBunny> meskarune, I actually talked to one[21:52:32] <dalput> NanoSector: yes and no[21:52:44] <BugzBunny> meskarune, And you out of hand[21:52:50] <NanoSector> dalput, manjaro takes Arch's book and modifies a few key concepts[21:52:55] <meskarune> how about you let the OPs do their jobs?[21:52:58] <NanoSector> dalput, whereas Antergos just extends on it[21:53:00] <meskarune> and PM me[21:53:06] <BugzBunny> FINE[21:53:23] <dalput> NanoSector: just read about Antergos today, it got described as an installer for Arch[21:53:30] <dalput> NanoSector: haven't used it so I don't know[21:53:37] <BugzBunny> I pm you man[21:53:38] <NanoSector> dalput, in concept it is, but it is a different distro[21:53:39] <dalput> NanoSector: Manjaro was getting a lot of praise[21:53:52] <NanoSector> dalput, oh, don't think i'm bringing manjaro down :) i'm not[21:53:53] * BugzBunny checks if he has ignore for all PMs[21:54:12] *** batch <batch!~batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[21:54:47] <dalput> NanoSector but I haven't used Arch either. First (usable) distro was Ubuntu, but it's a disaster since Unity and I've had so many packages and such a slow system, I decided to install Manjaro today :)[21:54:58] <NanoSector> dalput, ah, welcome[21:55:41] <Hexxium> Im glad that I installed Manjaro. I was having so many problems trying to install arch. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯[21:55:54] <dalput> NanoSector: was using it for like a month on my gf's laptop as a testdrive, could get along with it nicely and so did she...[21:56:28] <Hexxium> I really like the base Xfce desktop though. I might not change it.[21:56:29] <dalput> I expect a more technical approach than in Ubuntu, will also help boost my IT career :p[21:56:45] <NanoSector> dalput, manjaro is a nice learning ground[21:56:59] <dalput> Hexxium: XFCE is awesome. I must confess though, I'm looking at /r/unixporn and I'm jealous of those people with sick setups... one day![21:57:08] <Hexxium> Yeah dalput I jumped over here from Ubuntu too.[21:57:13] * NanoSector is happy with his raped GNOME setup[21:57:22] <Hexxium> And oh yeah I want to get there one day[21:57:27] <dalput> Hexxium: the dist-upgrades were killing me too[21:57:42] <dalput> that's a life altering experience, rolling release ftw[21:57:59] <Hexxium> Actually manjaro isnt my daily driver yet. Im using it on my laptop for now.[21:58:27] <dalput> Hexxium: haha, me a month ago.[21:58:40] <Hexxium> But it worked with touchpad gestures and the touch screen right out of the box.[21:59:25] <dalput> yep. even recognized my wifi usb dongle for which I had to do a whole workaround in Ubuntu[21:59:39] <dalput> don't use it anymore, but it was fun to see that it instantly recognized it and was usable[22:00:11] <NanoSector> http://i.imgur.com/PVuC4Ht.jpg < my raped GNOME setup[22:00:11] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/X9b59t] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[22:00:23] <Hexxium> Yeah I was using gnome then i switched to ubuntu mate. (Dont even ask me why I did that) And that whole install was crap. Nothing worked[22:00:38] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out)[22:00:48] <Hexxium> NonoSector that looks good.[22:00:49] <dalput> that looks good NanoSector[22:00:55] <mike-zal> dalput: AUR is great but has it's cons, especially on manjaro. on arch new AUR packages usually match the latest libs and dependencies. it's not the case with manjaro so AUR packages can and often conflict with Manjaro updates.[22:01:00] <NanoSector> thx[22:01:01] <dalput> where are you from Nano, it says "za"[22:01:02] <Hexxium> *NanoSector[22:01:07] <NanoSector> dalput, Netherlands[22:01:13] <NanoSector> "za" for zaterdag -> saturday[22:01:22] <dalput> NanoSector: figured... I'm from Antwerp[22:01:27] <NanoSector> ahh, nice[22:01:32] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@dhcp-5-186-121-147.cgn.ip.fibianet.dk> has joined #manjaro[22:01:34] <NanoSector> hello neighbor :)[22:01:34] <Hexxium> Ugh so many updates...[22:01:41] <dalput> ;D hehe[22:01:43] <Hexxium> I only installed Manjaro today[22:01:46] <NanoSector> dalput, join #manjaro-nl if you want[22:02:09] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[22:02:12] <dalput> I'm on a laptop, just installed my desktop, gonna get a irc client, now I'm just here through the web thing[22:02:14] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has joined #manjaro[22:02:19] <dalput> who uses what for irc ?[22:02:45] <Hexxium> Im using kiwi because I raged at hex chat but I'll move back to Irissi[22:03:08] <dalput> I used irssi in the past, but that was years ago[22:03:31] <dalput> I am thinking of terminal based clients tho[22:03:43] <mike-zal> NanoSector: your wallpaper could have been better ;p. but I guess taste is a personal matter ;). still, gnome is pretty flexible and can be very good looking[22:03:54] <Hexxium> I like doing stuff in terminal but I barely know anything.[22:04:02] <NanoSector> mike-zal, i have more wallpapers but keep forgetting to set them[22:04:12] <NanoSector> mike-zal, i also want a slideshow extension but again am too lazy to set it up[22:04:17] <Hexxium> Whats the average age of a manjaro user though...[22:04:18] <mike-zal> NanoSector: you can always make them rotate[22:04:28] *** Dippy <Dippy!~manjaro-k@151.237.25.139> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:04:50] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, meskarune doesn't know Jeanie[22:04:56] <mike-zal> Hexxium: I don't thing there are any stats for age. but most users are over 30 I think[22:04:57] <BugzBunny> :/[22:05:02] <dalput> Hexxium: just go for it, I'm always intrigued by the console[22:05:10] <Hexxium> Hahaha Im way yonger than that then[22:05:27] <Hexxium> Im just some snot nosed teen who likes messing with pc's[22:05:27] <dalput> Hexxium: first time Linux at 12 years old, made the switch full time at about 16-17 years old and installed Manjaro at 26 lol[22:05:59] <dalput> Hexxium: I work for BASF at the moment, IT data migration project, I'm the only Linux user there... nobody touches it with a 10 foot pole.[22:06:04] <NanoSector> BugzBunny, and?[22:06:15] <BugzBunny> LOL, that's all?[22:06:18] <BugzBunny> K[22:06:23] <Hexxium> thats great lol dalput[22:06:30] <mike-zal> dalput: wow, then you use linux longer them me. 2 years on linux, 1,5 year on manjaro[22:06:49] <NanoSector> BugzBunny, how does jeannie fit in here[22:06:52] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has joined #manjaro[22:07:17] <Hexxium> Just started manjaro today and Ive been with linux half a year or so[22:07:29] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:07:30] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, LOL, she participates and just as much freedom like me to speak[22:07:33] <NanoSector> Hexxium, welcome to the teen club[22:07:33] <BugzBunny> That's why[22:07:41] <mike-zal> dalput: at work you just install linux, set it up and tell people to use it. they even don't know it's linux... and have no problems with it.[22:07:53] <NanoSector> BugzBunny, huh[22:07:56] <dalput> mike-zal: hehe, but then again, it was ubuntu... from my 16-17... everything usually worked out of the box and the learning curve wasn't so hard. I feel like I've outgrown Ubuntu in some ways and it doesn't give me all the possibilities. So now I'll try Manjaro and one day I'll even try Slack and Ubuntu :p Linux is just too interesting.[22:08:07] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, You asked, how does jeanie fit in here[22:08:14] <BugzBunny> I explained it to you[22:08:18] <BugzBunny> Duh xD[22:08:32] <NanoSector> BugzBunny, you answered that she has as much freedom of speech in here as you do[22:08:39] <BugzBunny> Right[22:08:40] <meskarune> lol someone is smoking weed outside my window and playing pokemon go[22:08:45] <NanoSector> BugzBunny, your point?[22:08:50] <meskarune> smell is really dank[22:08:52] <dalput> mike-zal: yeah, I just installed Manjaro for my gf who is computer illiterate, she doesn't know how to use the volume or down button on a laptop and whatever. She gets a long fine. LibreOffice is the hard part, because it doesn't look like MSOffice, but hey... you can't have it all.[22:08:54] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, Then it went over your head[22:09:05] <mparillo> dalput: What do you find is the best Linux replacement for MS-Project?[22:09:09] <dalput> Hexxium: how old are you[22:09:13] <NanoSector> dalput, libreoffice is getting a ribbon-like interface for the next version[22:09:18] <Hexxium> 15[22:09:19] <mike-zal> dalput: I wonder if so much time on ubuntu will help you or hinder you (bad habits)? I switched to manjaro after few months so I know my way around apt and ppp's but was quick to adjust to pacman and aur[22:09:28] <NanoSector> Hexxium, oo you're younger than me[22:09:53] <meskarune> most people here are probably younger than me heh[22:09:55] <dalput> mparillo: haven't worked with MS-Project, first time I hear of it[22:10:03] <meskarune> yeah, same ^[22:10:09] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[22:10:13] <NanoSector> what's ms-project[22:10:14] <dalput> NanoSector: I've seen the screenshots, looks nice[22:10:40] <dalput> mike-zal: the switch to Manjaro is very easy because I know what to look for etc. Ubuntu is very beginner friendly and taught me a lot of concepts[22:10:48] <dalput> Hexxium: good stuff, you started out young.[22:10:49] <mparillo> Ahh, in the US, when you say Project Management, the first question anybody asks you is, 'How good are your MS-Project skills[22:10:50] <mike-zal> dalput: you can always install teamviewer on computers of other peoples so whenever they call with a problem, you can easily help from your home[22:11:09] <dalput> mike-zal: exactly, that's what I do[22:11:12] <mike-zal> dalput: and most people is happy with libre or open office[22:11:36] <dalput> mike-zal: I already have SSH installed on this laptop whenever she needs help and neofetch shows the IP address in console, so that's easy[22:11:37] <Hexxium> Thanks dalput.[22:11:47] <NanoSector> there's wps-office if you don't care about it being proprietary and chinese[22:12:04] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@dslb-178-007-001-061.178.007.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:12:12] <dalput> speaking of neofetch... why is it showing the public ip address like this: Public IP: 2a02:1810:3f29:f100:7104:b334:8cea:81[22:12:22] <meskarune> dalput: you should encourage her to get on IRC :D[22:12:23] <Hexxium> Oh I want t be able to remote into my pc. But its in windows 10 :'([22:12:26] <NanoSector> dalput, ipv6[22:12:45] <meskarune> dalput: there are tons of linux women's groups and she could make friends and learn[22:12:58] <mike-zal> yeah, wps looks like ms office. still, libre is better in my opinion.[22:13:05] <BugzBunny> I've observed meskarune rooms[22:13:19] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[22:13:25] <mike-zal> Hexxium: you can. install teamviewer on windows too.[22:13:27] <BugzBunny> She does a pretty good job and getting people to participate.. I talk bad about it[22:13:30] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@130.43.3.248.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[22:13:36] <BugzBunny> I won't talk bad about it[22:13:37] <dalput> meskarune: she's not into the whole thing really, just wants to access mails, order stuff from Aliexpress and chat with her friends[22:13:38] <Hexxium> Oh Im dumb...[22:13:50] <dalput> meskarune: but I taught her how to use mpsyt (console youtube player)[22:13:58] <dalput> she feels like a hacker now[22:14:02] <meskarune> aww[22:14:03] <BugzBunny> Ha[22:14:05] <Hexxium> Its like how I didnt know that you cant use a usb 3.0 drive to install windows.[22:14:18] <dalput> NanoSector: how can I get a normal output ?[22:14:18] <NanoSector> you can't?[22:14:24] <meskarune> Hexxium: you can't?[22:14:25] <NanoSector> dalput, hm?[22:14:27] <Hexxium> I mean windows 7[22:14:33] <NanoSector> oh[22:14:35] <meskarune> oh[22:14:38] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:14:38] <meskarune> lol jinx[22:14:41] <meskarune> haha[22:14:48] <NanoSector> :D[22:15:04] <dalput> NanoSector: works on my manjaro setup and on my ubuntu[22:15:08] <Hexxium> Yeah sometimes I spend hours trying to figure out something and its a stupid fix...[22:15:17] <dalput> NanoSector: the ip address I mean[22:15:20] <meskarune> I hate that[22:15:25] <NanoSector> dalput, oh, dunno[22:15:35] <meskarune> like you try all the really technical things to fix it, and it turns out to be something simple and stuipd[22:15:43] <dalput> NanoSector: it shows in this format, I don't know why... it just curls the ip address from a website[22:15:51] <NanoSector> sounds like my adventures with Apache and CUPS[22:16:26] <Hexxium> Another good example is that I have a flashdrive that you cant use to boot from.[22:16:34] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAA4F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[22:16:42] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[22:17:10] <dalput> hahaha[22:17:50] <Hexxium> I spenthalf a day trying to figure that one out[22:17:57] <Hexxium> *spent half[22:18:35] <Hexxium> And that didnt help when the windows media creqtion tool was crap. You had to wipe the disk yourself or it wouldnt work.[22:19:02] <Hexxium> *creation[22:19:21] <Hexxium> Ugh Its hard to focus when Im sick.[22:19:27] *** rmonico <rmonico!~rmonico@200.49.48.139> has joined #manjaro[22:19:30] <NanoSector> you're sick too?[22:19:49] <Hexxium> Yeah Ive kicked back two shots of mucenex tody[22:20:03] <Hexxium> Its nothing bad butt ugh[22:20:04] <meskarune> D:[22:20:09] <Hexxium> Lol[22:20:21] <Hexxium> So many typos[22:21:21] <Hexxium> Im also glad that steam and the drop down terminal are pre-installed[22:22:42] <Hexxium> And I killed the room[22:23:07] <BugzBunny> I got just as much shitty typos ...[22:23:11] <BugzBunny> LOL[22:23:27] <NanoSector> Hexxium, well done, now there's blood everywhere[22:23:42] *** manjaro-rw <manjaro-rw!~manjaro-r@213.14.154.77> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:23:46] <BugzBunny> I don't know the behavior of the room now... but uh..[22:24:00] <Hexxium> yeah irc[22:24:19] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[22:24:19] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[22:24:19] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[22:24:42] <BugzBunny> But it's mostly, I am disgruntle, a support room[22:25:16] <BugzBunny> I won't be like most, you can't speak, I was actually enjoying the conversation[22:25:19] <BugzBunny> LOL[22:25:52] <Hexxium> oh fun fact Im trying to stop using two finger typing[22:26:00] <BugzBunny> Lies[22:26:07] <Hexxium> No its not[22:26:23] <Hexxium> for real[22:26:36] <BugzBunny> You lost 8 fingers[22:26:54] <BugzBunny> Damn, you can't wrap around a carrot[22:27:06] <Hexxium> No Im fine. I didnt lose anything when I killed the room[22:27:27] <BugzBunny> What makes you think it's your problem?[22:27:47] <Hexxium> Huh?[22:27:59] <BugzBunny> Hexxium, "I killed the room"[22:28:25] <Hexxium> Yeah. Im a bit confused[22:28:35] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:29:10] <BugzBunny> One time, I was talking about Cartoons[22:29:17] <BugzBunny> I was talking talking talking[22:29:21] <BugzBunny> Right[22:29:30] <BugzBunny> people just stop stalking[22:29:36] <BugzBunny> I mean, I like Cartoons[22:29:53] <BugzBunny> But I was like whatever, they don't like Cartoons[22:30:25] <BugzBunny> I still like my cartoons[22:31:44] <BugzBunny> Hexxium, I killed the room[22:31:57] <rhg135> nah[22:32:24] *** piffle <piffle!~jj@121-73-9-217.cable.telstraclear.net> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[22:33:15] <Hexxium> https://xkcd.com/1782/[22:33:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/6lxN5U] xkcd: Team Chat[22:35:46] *** hpp <hpp!~hpp@85-76-34-159-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #manjaro[22:37:01] <BugzBunny> Hexxium, Oh well[22:37:04] <BugzBunny> xD[22:37:51] *** nuno_nunes <nuno_nunes!~PC@a83-132-55-18.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #manjaro[22:38:56] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:38:58] <BugzBunny> Let me live stream the first hour of Dying light[22:39:04] *** manjaro-mate <manjaro-mate!~manjaro-m@2001:7e8:dc6f:9b01:6a18:dc0f:4714:93c3> has joined #manjaro[22:39:10] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@aapa204.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:39:45] <BugzBunny> I got a few videos uploaded, but I asking myself, should I live stream or do Live stream until where I lost the video[22:40:03] *** manjaro-mate <manjaro-mate!~manjaro-m@2001:7e8:dc6f:9b01:6a18:dc0f:4714:93c3> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:41:02] <BugzBunny> watches this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMzF9yomz3I&t=1766s[22:41:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/KZdB8B] Let's Play Mafia 3 Episode 1 (Commentary) [Partly Blind?] 1080p 60FPS - YouTube[22:45:01] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[22:46:56] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has joined #manjaro[22:48:01] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@unaffiliated/holmeslinux> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:50:12] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@109-92-186-75.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:50:56] *** zebrafinch <zebrafinch!~Phil@cpe-72-182-43-152.austin.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[22:51:00] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@cl-78-158-10-133.fastlink.lt> has joined #manjaro[22:51:12] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…)[23:25:10] *** bewgie <bewgie!42414836@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.66.65.72.54> has joined #manjaro[23:25:20] <bewgie> hi there[23:25:36] <bewgie> so i was wondering[23:25:59] <bewgie> im installing the budgie flavor of manjaro, and it comes with kernel 44[23:26:27] <bewgie> and doing some reading i learned that particular kernel brings issues with amd chipsets[23:26:37] *** Aria <Aria!~quassel@155-149-128-083.dynamic.caiway.nl> has joined #manjaro[23:26:52] <bewgie> doing some more reading i learned using kernel 48 fixes these issues[23:27:00] *** Aria is now known as Guest65660[23:27:16] <bewgie> is there anyway to upgrade just the kernel after installing budgie manjaro?[23:27:49] <rhg135> yes[23:28:01] *** Z0R <Z0R!8acc3d20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.204.61.32> has joined #manjaro[23:28:04] <bewgie> it wont break the system?[23:28:10] <rhg135> you can install several at once[23:28:13] <rhg135> nope[23:28:33] <bewgie> I figured maybe budgie came with the 44 kernel for a specific reason[23:28:40] <bewgie> well thats good to know[23:28:54] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has left #manjaro[23:28:58] <bewgie> see im installing it on an acer aspire one 722[23:29:26] <rhg135> nah it's just the lts version[23:29:48] <rhg135> the stable is 4.9 iirc[23:29:48] *** deerf_ <deerf_!~quassel@85.ip-79-137-82.eu> has joined #manjaro[23:30:02] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:30:35] <bewgie> I SEE[23:30:39] <bewgie> hmm[23:31:00] <bewgie> is 4.8 not stable? i read its "too new"[23:31:22] <Joseph> hah, I'm on 4.9.2 and it works flawlessly.[23:31:40] <BugzBunny> 4.9 is the new Stable[23:32:06] <bewgie> cool[23:32:17] <bewgie> so how do i go about upgrading to that kernel?[23:32:25] <BugzBunny> Why?[23:33:04] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:33:14] <bewgie> well i was on the official thread for the budgie manjaro newest release and folks were mentioning that the linux 4.4 kernel doesnt load the proper non free catalyst amd drivers[23:33:21] *** ultrixx <ultrixx!~ultrixx@p5DC76C6F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[23:33:38] <BugzBunny> Thank you for taking the time bewgie[23:33:41] <bewgie> everyone with amd was reporting errors[23:33:42] *** deerf_ <deerf_!~quassel@85.ip-79-137-82.eu> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:33:48] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf00ba@85.ip-79-137-82.eu> has joined #manjaro[23:33:58] <BugzBunny> I am part of the red team[23:34:20] <Joseph> bewgie: look for the Manjaro Setting Manager[23:34:30] <BugzBunny> bewgie, Okay, what model video card do you have?[23:34:33] <Joseph> bewgie: and then click Kernel[23:35:05] <bewgie> ati radeon hd 6290[23:35:11] <Joseph> bewgie: now look for the kernel you want to install but do *NOT* remove the one you currently have[23:35:16] <BugzBunny> Eeek, it's old[23:35:18] <rhg135> I've had no problems with the ati driver[23:35:33] <BugzBunny> The Open source Drivers should work[23:35:35] *** Z0R <Z0R!8acc3d20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.204.61.32> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[23:35:37] <BugzBunny> Perfectly[23:35:41] <rhg135> Joseph: you can't even remove your current kernel[23:35:42] <bewgie> yah its an old netbook[23:36:00] <rhg135> well, not from mhwd-kernel[23:36:04] <BugzBunny> Radeon open source drives shouldwork[23:36:05] <Joseph> rhg135: not the point -- if you try to do it, it does some things and can break your system[23:36:09] *** Hexxium <Hexxium!49d5cbe0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.213.203.224> has joined #manjaro[23:36:22] <Joseph> rhg135: obviously your current kernel is in RAM until you reboot or power down[23:36:31] <BugzBunny> There is no more updates to legacy drivers in Kernel line[23:36:34] <bewgie> ive had a hard time with this netbook, i had to upgrade this to windows 10 just to get video to run right, the only thing that got it going was directx 12[23:36:55] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@c-73-221-22-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[23:36:57] *** zebrafinch <zebrafinch!~Phil@cpe-72-182-43-152.austin.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:36:57] <rhg135> I mean it won't let you at all, Joseph[23:37:08] <rhg135> maybe the gui is different[23:37:12] <Joseph> rhg135: someone in here apparently managed to do it via Pamac[23:37:20] <rhg135> yeah[23:37:20] <Joseph> rhg135: and it completely broke their system[23:37:27] <rhg135> I mean mhwd[23:37:46] <Joseph> ah, could be. not something I'd want to try to find out :)[23:37:57] <bewgie> ill do it from manjaro settings manager to make sure i dont break the system then[23:37:59] <rhg135> it's completely safe[23:38:03] *** Hexxium <Hexxium!49d5cbe0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.213.203.224> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:38:23] <rhg135> just reinstall before rebooting if it did go through[23:38:23] <BugzBunny> bewgie, It should work[23:38:36] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[23:38:43] <Joseph> bewgie: yes, try latest stable kernel[23:38:48] <bewgie> i wish there was a way to just toss the new kernel into the iso itself or the installer thumb drive i made[23:38:56] <BugzBunny> Maybe I haven't made it clear[23:39:27] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@5.220.221.132> has joined #manjaro[23:39:40] <BugzBunny> Redeon is mature code, AFAIK, they will fix bugs, but for that card[23:39:58] <BugzBunny> It should work out of the box, as far as Kernel 3.x[23:40:11] *** COTTY <COTTY!b0fb1d57@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.251.29.87> has joined #manjaro[23:40:13] <bewgie> so the kernel wont make a difference?[23:40:16] <Joseph> that's what you'd expect. however, my 2010 netbook had an issue with the 4.4 kernel[23:40:21] <Joseph> and 4.9.2 fixed it[23:40:26] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:40:27] <bewgie> ^[23:40:38] <BugzBunny> Joseph, For his card?[23:40:50] <bewgie> im going to use that kernel then because this netbook is about that old[23:41:00] <Joseph> what I mean is, things that have "mature code" and "old cards" may have a fix in very new releases of software[23:41:04] <Joseph> it isn't as black and white as you said.[23:41:09] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:41:41] <rhg135> iirc ati gets backported to 4.4[23:41:42] <bewgie> also im using a solid state drive[23:41:46] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~quassel@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has quit IRC (Quit: http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortabel. Waar dan ook.)[23:41:57] <rhg135> as in 4.4 gets updates[23:41:58] <bewgie> im not sure if i should take any special precautions with such a drive[23:42:02] <Joseph> bewgie: nice, that speeds things up considerably[23:42:12] *** flipper-maniac <flipper-maniac!~quassel@unaffiliated/flipper-maniac> has joined #manjaro[23:42:30] <BugzBunny> What I am saying, the development for old cards is likely stopped and then all new code that goes into the Kernel is for newer cards[23:42:44] <bewgie> i got this netbook for 50 dollars on craigslist and ive just been messing with it lately[23:42:56] <bewgie> came with the ssd and 4gb of ram[23:42:57] <COTTY> can any one help is there only pacman software manager on xfce[23:42:59] <BugzBunny> So, you won't see better improvements because you use a newer Kernel pass 4.4[23:43:20] <hpp> but newer fix other things too[23:43:36] <bewgie> ok im going to go install this thing and report back my results[23:43:46] <bewgie> thanks everyone[23:43:55] <rhg135> 4.9 is fine though[23:43:56] *** bewgie <bewgie!42414836@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.66.65.72.54> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[23:43:58] <Joseph> COTTY: pacman is one way. the graphical interface also exists, like Pamac, or octopi[23:45:16] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-98-116-139-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[23:45:26] <Joseph> COTTY: see https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Graphical_Software_Managers[23:45:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/1D2IPx] Graphical Software Managers - Manjaro Linux[23:45:49] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has joined #manjaro[23:45:51] <COTTY> thankyou joseph[23:45:54] <Joseph> sure[23:46:09] <rhg135> both are useful[23:46:29] <rhg135> octopi is handy for selecting one by one[23:47:42] <Joseph> yeah[23:48:02] <Joseph> I've mostly been combining pacman on the terminal and Pamac[23:48:22] *** bad_1 <bad_1!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection timed out)[23:48:40] <rhg135> well, I use plasma... and I think octopi is slightly more featured[23:48:46] <Joseph> ah, I see[23:48:48] <BugzBunny> I love when I accidently search for pacman and I get a fucking Pacman video game[23:48:49] <Joseph> I'm on Xfce[23:48:53] <BugzBunny> So lovely[23:49:09] <Joseph> I have to say though, KDE Plasma edition of Manjaro does look very nice[23:49:30] *** defenestrator <defenestrator!6a331341@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.106.51.19.65> has joined #manjaro[23:49:34] <defenestrator> hi[23:49:37] <Joseph> hey[23:49:41] <BugzBunny> Joseph, Pictures[23:49:51] <Joseph> BugzBunny: hm? of?[23:50:09] <defenestrator> Can someone please tell me how I can create a bootable usb drive of manjaro from mac os?[23:50:12] <BugzBunny> rhg135, It didn't go over your head yes?[23:50:30] <Joseph> BugzBunny: I'm saying, do you want my desktop (Xfce) or KDE Plasma, since I said it looked good?[23:50:37] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@sba17-1-83-157-79-243.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[23:50:39] <rhg135> what, BugzBunny?[23:50:57] <BugzBunny> Ahhhhhh[23:51:03] <BugzBunny> I understand my mistake[23:51:22] *** COTTY <COTTY!b0fb1d57@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.251.29.87> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[23:51:29] <BugzBunny> Joseph, I mean to say, show a picture of your desktop[23:51:36] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[23:51:39] *** deerf_ <deerf_!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[23:51:39] *** deerf_ <deerf_!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:51:50] *** zio <zio!~lol@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[23:51:53] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@5.220.221.132> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:51:58] *** Vialas_ <Vialas_!~Vialas@C-61-69-199-100.for.connect.net.au> has joined #manjaro[23:52:07] *** zio <zio!~lol@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:52:09] <BugzBunny> rhg135, I have pony, is red, will you buy it?[23:52:15] <BugzBunny> 100 bucks[23:52:29] *** zio <zio!~lol@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[23:52:45] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132003122.public.t-mobile.at> has joined #manjaro[23:52:51] <BugzBunny> I would sell it to you for 200 bucks but I will offer you 100% discount[23:53:01] <rhg135> I'm pretty sure you're messing with me[23:53:20] <BugzBunny> Pony man?[23:53:40] *** Vialas <Vialas!~Vialas@61.68.65.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:54:31] <BugzBunny> I trying to sale this Pony[23:55:47] <rhg135> I still am really confused[23:56:07] *** zio <zio!~lol@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:57:42] *** emptynine <emptynine!~tkk@cybertron.nullroute.info> has joined #manjaro[23:57:46] *** Rayzake <Rayzake!63c6fabf@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.99.198.250.191> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[23:58:02] <manjaroCinnamon> hello[23:58:49] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@sba17-1-83-157-79-243.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:59:01] <Joseph> http://i.imgur.com/ADfFlZp.jpg <<< my desktop on the netbook[23:59:01] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/GKlKVU] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[23:59:08] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[23:59:12] <Joseph> (not this system, which is why it took a while to boot it up and take it)[23:59:20] <Joseph> I need to do some modifications though[23:59:31] <Joseph> enable the drop-down terminal from Xfce4