January 27, 2017 
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January 27, 2017 [00:04:10] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[00:07:20] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:07:38] *** strugart <strugart!strugart@181.167.144.176> has joined #manjaro[00:08:11] <Celmor> keepassx doesn't integrate with anything and keepass using mono on linux is buggy[00:08:11] *** strugart <strugart!strugart@181.167.144.176> has left #manjaro[00:08:27] <Celmor> also no plugin support for keepassx[00:08:40] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:09:56] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3472.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:10:00] *** manjaro-web|5812 <manjaro-web|5812!29f9e576@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.41.249.229.118> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:10:08] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3472.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[00:11:16] * rhg135 shrugs[00:11:34] <rhg135> I'm using keepass, but yes it is buggy[00:12:08] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@dslb-094-220-132-081.094.220.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[00:12:37] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as Binford[00:13:17] <Celmor> merely pressing the windows button makes it crash[00:14:19] *** yuta1 <yuta1!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[00:15:16] <rhg135> check out keepass-i3 since rebuilding it seems to help[00:15:32] <rhg135> also passing --verify-all to mono[00:16:02] *** yuta1 <yuta1!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:16:10] *** yuta1 <yuta1!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[00:16:35] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3472.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:17:27] <Celmor> how would I pass that to mono, I'm not the one executing mono...[00:18:26] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@185.118.249.57> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:18:34] <rhg135> you edit the script that launches it /usr/bin/keepass[00:20:00] <Celmor> didn't know that was a script...[00:20:21] <rhg135> yeah, one line[00:20:35] <Celmor> the error I'm getting at the end of the crash dump is "Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. This usually indicates a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries used by your application." btw[00:21:31] <rhg135> yeah, same here[00:21:51] <rhg135> mono bug but they refuse to fix it :\[00:24:00] *** yuta1 <yuta1!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[00:24:03] *** m031n <m031n!~moeinbbp@37.27.93.60> has joined #manjaro[00:24:09] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[00:24:35] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-173-56-106-104.nycmny.ftas.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[00:25:02] *** malfane <malfane!~dabozz@c-98-245-1-140.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:26:30] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:26:59] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #manjaro[00:28:46] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-173-56-106-104.nycmny.ftas.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:29:04] *** infinital <infinital!uid144856@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xeybmkaeujxubjzh> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:29:46] *** m031n <m031n!~moeinbbp@37.27.93.60> has quit IRC (Quit: l)[00:29:59] *** space_otter <space_otter!~space_ott@2602:306:32e8:cf60:a284:ed24:cb0f:59> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:33:08] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-173-56-106-104.nycmny.ftas.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[00:34:05] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:35:29] *** malfane <malfane!~dabozz@c-98-245-1-140.hsd1.co.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[00:39:10] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[00:39:29] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:42:02] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132076114.public.t-mobile.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:44:01] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:45:59] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@37.142.183.193> has joined #manjaro[00:46:11] *** BillyZane <BillyZane!~BillyZane@unaffiliated/billyzane> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:46:20] *** Binford <Binford!~manjaro-k@dslb-094-220-132-081.094.220.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:47:20] *** notis_ <notis_!~notis@77.49.136.31.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:48:02] *** BillyZane <BillyZane!~BillyZane@unaffiliated/billyzane> has joined #manjaro[00:50:06] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@84.126.123.5.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #manjaro[00:50:07] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@84.126.123.5.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:52:28] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@70.41.80.50> has joined #manjaro[00:58:24] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Quit: Bye ALL#)[01:01:14] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@188-22-6-220.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:02:43] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-174-105.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[01:06:35] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:09:19] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-174-105.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[01:15:25] *** cr4zyman <cr4zyman!~cr4zyman@a109-49-29-231.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #manjaro[01:15:33] <cr4zyman> yo[01:15:35] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:16:21] <nicklas_> wazzup[01:16:28] *** gerep <gerep!b36d5c7d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.179.109.92.125> has joined #manjaro[01:17:35] *** gerep <gerep!b36d5c7d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.179.109.92.125> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:18:44] *** gawd <gawd!~gawd@2600:8800:5180:2340:543c:d3c:b5c7:f16e> has joined #manjaro[01:19:26] <cr4zyman> just speending some time make my own iso of manjaro with buildiso[01:19:27] <cr4zyman> (:[01:20:09] *** ziggys <ziggys!~ziggys@gateway/tor-sasl/ziggys> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[01:21:06] <nicklas_> custom?[01:23:34] <cr4zyman> yes yes[01:23:46] <cr4zyman> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Build_Manjaro_ISOs_with_buildiso[01:23:47] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/7CNgs8] Build Manjaro ISOs with buildiso - Manjaro Linux[01:25:02] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:25:52] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[01:35:15] *** Isaac <Isaac!~vcore@windows-denmark.cryptostorm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[01:36:19] *** _SkyeNymph <_SkyeNymph!~skyenymph@104.218.244.194> has joined #manjaro[01:36:57] *** SkyeNymph <SkyeNymph!~skyenymph@104.218.244.194> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[01:37:40] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[01:43:10] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@ip68-9-248-34.ri.ri.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[01:43:34] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@ip68-9-248-34.ri.ri.cox.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:44:09] *** _SkyeNymph <_SkyeNymph!~skyenymph@104.218.244.194> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:44:22] *** adamalii <adamalii!~manjaro-i@128.199.207.187> has joined #manjaro[01:44:32] <adamalii> hello[01:44:58] <Celmor> hi[01:45:14] <adamalii> manjaro-i3 use libinput (instead xf86-input-synaptics)[01:45:21] *** _SkyeNymph <_SkyeNymph!~skyenymph@104.218.244.194> has joined #manjaro[01:45:23] <adamalii> how to enable tap to click?[01:46:29] <Celmor> no idea, but have you tried simply replacing them?[01:50:35] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-173-56-106-104.nycmny.ftas.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:51:12] <cr4zyman> http://docs.xfce.org/_detail/xfce/xfce4-settings/xfce4-settings-mouse-devices-synaptics.png?id=xfce%3Axfce4-settings%3Amouse[01:51:12] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/D30zYi] xfce:xfce4-settings:xfce4-settings-mouse-devices-synaptics.png [Xfce Docs][01:51:17] <cr4zyman> i use xfce and it works[01:51:57] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has left #manjaro[01:52:38] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[01:53:24] <adamalii> with libinput?[01:53:41] <adamalii> i use kde synaptic setting,but seems no work[01:54:31] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@37.142.183.193> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:57:42] *** adamalii <adamalii!~manjaro-i@128.199.207.187> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:58:39] *** _SkyeNymph <_SkyeNymph!~skyenymph@104.218.244.194> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:00:18] <cr4zyman> whereis libinput[02:00:19] <cr4zyman> libinput: /usr/lib/libinput.so /usr/include/libinput.h /usr/share/man/man4/libinput.4.gz[02:00:23] <cr4zyman> yup[02:00:25] <cr4zyman> i have[02:00:37] <cr4zyman> whereis xf86-input-synaptics[02:00:38] <cr4zyman> xf86-input-synaptics:[02:00:59] *** adamalii <adamalii!~manjaro-i@128.199.207.187> has joined #manjaro[02:01:07] *** spencer <spencer!~spencer@75-166-196-116.hlrn.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[02:01:30] <cr4zyman> cr4zyman> whereis libinput[02:01:30] <cr4zyman> [01:00:18] <cr4zyman> libinput: /usr/lib/libinput.so /usr/include/libinput.h /usr/share/man/man4/libinput.4.gz[02:01:30] <cr4zyman> [01:00:23] <cr4zyman> yup[02:01:30] <cr4zyman> [01:00:25] <cr4zyman> i have[02:01:30] <cr4zyman> [01:00:37] <cr4zyman> whereis xf86-input-synaptics[02:01:31] <cr4zyman> [01:00:37] <cr4zyman> xf86-input-synaptics:[02:01:33] <adamalii> yay this solve my tap to click issue: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/synaptic-vs-libinput/3155/32, thanks michal[02:01:34] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/L0Eh3h] (link was unresponsive: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/synaptic-vs-libinput/3155/32,)[02:02:19] <cr4zyman> ./etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/30-touchpad.conf nice one[02:02:48] <adamalii> i create another one in /etc/X11/mhwd.conf.d/[02:03:33] <adamalii> last time i create some stuff for nvidia,its not detected on xorg.conf.d,but detected on mhwd.conf.d,lol[02:04:28] <adamalii> now,the next question is,how to enable gesture :D[02:04:55] <adamalii> https://github.com/bulletmark/libinput-gestures[02:04:57] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/kGIt9c] GitHub - bulletmark/libinput-gestures: Actions gestures on your touchpad using libinput[02:08:33] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[02:13:34] *** OffsetTrap <OffsetTrap!~trapdoor@115.214.40.102> has joined #manjaro[02:15:36] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fevoqvzzcqfmnkii> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:19:23] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@1.136.96.68> has joined #manjaro[02:26:59] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC ()[02:33:47] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:39:49] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.129.236.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:42:25] *** hade <hade!~manjaro-k@182.253.200.18> has joined #manjaro[02:44:20] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@1.136.96.68> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[02:49:10] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[02:50:31] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[02:53:50] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[02:56:42] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[02:59:56] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-70-23-250.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[03:01:38] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[03:02:21] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:02:31] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[03:02:34] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[03:03:29] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[03:04:21] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:05:04] *** d42 <d42!~root@89-70-23-250.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[03:07:35] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[03:09:08] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[03:10:08] *** SkyeNymph <SkyeNymph!~skyenymph@208.68.69.54> has joined #manjaro[03:13:27] *** fulcan <fulcan!~kvirc@108-249-227-82.lightspeed.elpstx.sbcglobal.net> has joined #manjaro[03:15:57] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[03:16:09] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[03:16:09] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[03:16:09] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[03:19:06] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[03:19:13] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@37.142.183.193> has joined #manjaro[03:20:43] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:20:43] <SkyeNymph> CountryfiedLinux: Hey[03:20:46] <SkyeNymph> How have you been?[03:21:09] *** adamalii <adamalii!~manjaro-i@128.199.207.187> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:21:23] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@37.142.183.193> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[03:22:51] <CountryfiedLinux> Busy with work a lot and tired SkyeNymph but still kickin. How are you doing?[03:25:17] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has quit IRC (Quit: Quite)[03:27:07] *** Joseph <Joseph!~Penskins@gateway/tor-sasl/penskins> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:30:27] <SkyeNymph> I am doing fairly well, needing a bit in the way of sleep[03:31:08] *** TyrfingMjolnir <TyrfingMjolnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #manjaro[03:31:16] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.129.236.106> has joined #manjaro[03:32:08] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[03:34:16] *** luis888 <luis888!3cf07549@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.60.240.117.73> has joined #manjaro[03:34:33] <luis888> Quick question, after updating to testing via[03:34:41] <luis888> sudo pacman-mirrors -g -b testing[03:35:20] <luis888> fixed a problem I had with a package, will the system automatically return to stable[03:35:31] <luis888> in future updates, or should I run[03:35:36] *** _SkyeNymph <_SkyeNymph!~skyenymph@104.218.244.194> has joined #manjaro[03:35:41] <luis888> sudo pacman-mirrors -g -b stable?[03:38:58] <PipeItToDevNull> It will switch to stable at reboot[03:39:00] *** SkyeNymph <SkyeNymph!~skyenymph@208.68.69.54> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[03:39:12] <PipeItToDevNull> But run that if you want to switch now[03:39:34] *** luis__ <luis__!~luis@60-240-117-73.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[03:41:00] <fulcan> i'm tired of debian and I am tired of my laptop locking up/freezing. I'm trying manjaro[03:41:09] *** SkyeNymph <SkyeNymph!~skyenymph@208.68.69.54> has joined #manjaro[03:41:33] *** _SkyeNymph <_SkyeNymph!~skyenymph@104.218.244.194> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[03:43:49] *** Wallis <Wallis!68c89734@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.200.151.52> has joined #manjaro[03:43:53] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.129.236.106> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[03:44:16] <luis__> welcome[03:44:24] <Wallis> Hey everyone, does anyone know by chance the application launcher that Majaro uses?[03:44:44] *** luis888 <luis888!3cf07549@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.60.240.117.73> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[03:44:50] *** ds0nt <ds0nt!~manjaro-i@p8048-ipbfp4201osakakita.osaka.ocn.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[03:45:01] <Wallis> I can't for the life of me remember. It came up in a conversation with my friends.[03:46:04] *** enlightenmepls <enlightenmepls!49dfbb50@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.223.187.80> has joined #manjaro[03:46:53] <enlightenmepls> howdy folks. first time manjaro user here. is the package manager supposed to take such a loooong time to update?[03:48:00] <enlightenmepls> it told me that there was about 266 available updates, so I clicked to update them all. the total size apparently is around ~800 MB, but I have around ~50 mbps.. but it's still taking such a long time.[03:48:29] <enlightenmepls> I'm confident that it is the host of these updates that is causing the bottleneck, but I wasn't sure[03:48:42] <hedgie> it could easily be the server[03:50:02] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@62.57.14.193.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #manjaro[03:51:34] *** enlightenmepls <enlightenmepls!49dfbb50@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.223.187.80> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[03:54:23] <PipeItToDevNull> Wallis: That depends on the DE[03:55:08] <PipeItToDevNull> enlighten: It is probably pulling from the slow as shit African server[03:55:35] <Wallis> PipeItToDevNull: I'm talking about the one that comes with the XFCE distribution.[03:56:14] <PipeItToDevNull> Wallis: That is on the XFCE taskbar?[03:56:52] <Wallis> Yes[03:57:18] <PipeItToDevNull> Whiskermenu[03:57:52] <Wallis> Ah thank you.[04:01:11] <luis__> fulcan: try manjaro budgie[04:03:08] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:10:09] *** luis___ <luis___!~luis@185.97.214.102> has joined #manjaro[04:10:14] *** Wallis <Wallis!68c89734@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.200.151.52> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[04:11:40] *** luis__ <luis__!~luis@60-240-117-73.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:15:30] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-073-022-184.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has 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has joined #manjaro[07:50:26] <thid> mornign[07:50:32] <thid> morning*[07:51:05] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@70.41.80.50> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[07:54:23] *** OffsetTrap <OffsetTrap!~trapdoor@39.188.51.194> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[07:54:46] *** OffsetTrap <OffsetTrap!~trapdoor@39.188.51.194> has joined #manjaro[07:57:48] <PipeItToDevNull> It is night time[07:58:40] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has joined #manjaro[08:02:29] *** void9 <void9!~smuxi@89.37.112.221> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:05:03] <rhg135> Timezones are a bummer[08:07:09] *** Mikerhinos <Mikerhinos!~mikerhino@vic03-h02-176-145-45-161.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #manjaro[08:07:24] *** void9 <void9!~smuxi@89.37.112.221> has joined #manjaro[08:10:29] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@94.242.252.40> has joined #manjaro[08:10:48] *** OffsetTrap <OffsetTrap!~trapdoor@39.188.51.194> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the 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<adamalii> so[08:57:35] <adamalii> you can run ssh with common user,eg: adam@li home$ /usr/sbin/sshd -f mysshd_config[08:58:55] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@c-73-235-39-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[08:58:56] <adamalii> but the client cant login,because that user dont have priveleges to write /etc/shadow?[08:59:02] <thid> yep[08:59:18] <adamalii> welp[08:59:36] <thid> with?[08:59:45] <adamalii> if i use, usePAM=no[08:59:56] <adamalii> can i haz ssh?[09:00:28] <thid> why u want to run ssh as normal user ?[09:00:52] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:01:07] <adamalii> because i want jail x user,in a user directory[09:01:23] <thid> ...[09:01:28] <thid> thats not how u make jail[09:01:32] <adamalii> i want chroot bob in /home/adam/ihateubob/[09:01:34] <thid> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sshfs#Chrooting[09:01:35] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/qF18zE] SSHFS - ArchWiki[09:01:43] <adamalii> normally[09:01:59] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@c-73-235-39-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:02:06] <adamalii> jail/chroot locking done by root,yes i know this[09:02:41] <adamalii> but this case is special,i must do that[09:02:53] <adamalii> so,no hope for adam? huh? :([09:03:59] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[09:04:24] <thid> hmm[09:04:32] <thid> well shitty way in my opinion[09:04:39] <thid> but u can change config of ssh[09:04:42] <adamalii> in my opinion too[09:05:01] <adamalii> man,this project is so f up[09:05:17] <adamalii> and i left to sweep this mess[09:06:44] <thid> hmm[09:06:54] <thid> well u could skip using /etc/shadow[09:06:57] *** Comradin <Comradin!d5b69a9d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.182.154.157> has joined #manjaro[09:06:58] <thid> and go for keys[09:07:10] <adamalii> i already done that[09:11:40] *** adamalii <adamalii!~manjaro-i@128.199.207.187> has quit 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adamalii:[09:27:13] <thid> did u think about using something else then ssh ?[09:27:23] <adamalii> actually,i got inspiration from this[09:27:24] <adamalii> https://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2008-04/msg00363.html[09:27:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/MkvAyl] Corinna Vinschen - Re: How do I run sshd as a particular user?[09:27:51] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3E98B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:28:04] <adamalii> they have succeed,they even use keyboard interactive and create sesion[09:28:11] <adamalii> are they wizerd?[09:28:14] <thid> https://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html[09:28:17] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/w5r0G1] (link was unresponsive: https://matt.ucc.asn.au/dropbear/dropbear.html)[09:28:49] <adamalii> i need sftp[09:29:00] <adamalii> dropbear didnt support sftp natively right?[09:29:31] <thid> yeah it doesn't ;/[09:29:35] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:30:41] <adamalii> but dropbear have different mechanism for chroot?[09:30:48] <adamalii> than openssh[09:32:13] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAFCA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:34:21] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[09:34:49] *** jsuse <jsuse!~jsuse@jsuse.pw> has joined #manjaro[09:36:45] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[09:37:29] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[09:38:57] *** jsuse <jsuse!~jsuse@jsuse.pw> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:39:51] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@host86-191-186-58.range86-191.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:41:00] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[09:41:55] *** jsuse <jsuse!~jsuse@jsuse.pw> has joined #manjaro[09:43:06] *** jsuse <jsuse!~jsuse@jsuse.pw> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:45:19] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@bzj156.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[09:49:19] <thid> hmm...I think I'm gona buy rpi3[09:51:42] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[09:53:05] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[09:54:03] *** m712 <m712!~annoying@2602:ffc5::ffc5:cd91> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:54:07] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[09:56:48] <adamalii> me too[09:57:17] <adamalii> tinkerboard is interesting,but my wallet is not supported[09:57:31] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[09:58:15] <thid> its cheap[09:58:33] <thid> about 43$[09:58:53] <thid> tho I still have no idea for what I will use it[10:00:55] *** m712 <m712!~annoying@2602:ffc5::ffc5:cd91> has joined #manjaro[10:04:02] <adamalii> tinkerboard?[10:04:24] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.234.121.4> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:04:52] <adamalii> tinkerboard costed around $70 ,while rpi about 30-40$[10:05:14] <adamalii> for rpi, i have used it as DIY cctv[10:09:21] *** marduk616_ <marduk616_!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:09:26] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:14:30] *** marduk616 <marduk616!~marduk616@81-234-55-43-no145.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[10:15:12] *** space_otter <space_otter!~space_ott@2602:306:32e8:cf60:a284:ed24:cb0f:59> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[10:15:45] *** mike-zal2 <mike-zal2!~michaldyb@agsc251.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:17:45] <thid> I'm totaly not interested in tinkerboard[10:17:46] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-178-010.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[10:18:02] *** Manj-811-Xfce 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Does anyone have manjaro on a mac?[11:32:31] <titusgroen> I need a hand trying to get the wifi to work[11:32:35] *** sunitknandi <sunitknandi!~sunit@unaffiliated/sunitknandi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:32:47] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-188-106-143-223.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[11:33:10] *** ywecur[m] <ywecur[m]!ywecurmatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-krsvtewigpvqtwmz> has left #manjaro ("Kicked by @appservice-irc:matrix.org")[11:33:10] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-190-128.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[11:33:58] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@94.242.252.40> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:35:46] *** sunitknandi <sunitknandi!~sunit@unaffiliated/sunitknandi> has joined #manjaro[11:36:16] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-188-106-143-223.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[11:36:44] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-188-106-143-223.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[11:36:55] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has joined #manjaro[11:41:34] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@cable-178-148-17-32.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #manjaro[11:42:16] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@cable-178-148-17-32.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[11:45:09] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:45:21] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[11:46:22] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[11:47:00] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[11:48:31] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has joined #manjaro[11:49:35] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-015-225.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[11:50:46] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-188-106-143-223.188.106.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:51:56] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[11:52:39] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@77.243.183.26> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[11:53:50] *** NikitaOrange <NikitaOrange!~NikitaOra@r167-60-130-232.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:54:06] <ShayBox> i've never tried that... it sounds interesting[11:57:17] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:59:09] <titusgroen> I could use all the help that I can get![11:59:47] <ShayBox> are you running it in aKVM, or a full install? or a virtual machine?[12:00:53] *** Totalkrill <Totalkrill!~Total_Kri@pub95-70.pub.ltu.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[12:00:54] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@c-0485e655.018-250-6c756e3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has joined #manjaro[12:01:59] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.234.121.4> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:02:00] <thid> back[12:02:30] <titusgroen> Full install :)[12:02:43] <thid> titusgroen: lspci[12:02:49] <titusgroen> It's an old macbook[12:03:04] <thid> lspci | grep Network[12:03:20] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:03:26] <titusgroen> Network controller: Broadcom Limited BCM4321 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)[12:04:28] <thid> mhwd -l[12:05:40] <titusgroen> network-broadcom-wl 2015.12.13 true PCI[12:05:57] <thid> hmmm[12:06:19] <thid> lsmod[12:06:41] <titusgroen> it sees networks but just bounces off mine. keeps asking for password over and over[12:06:53] <thid> oh[12:07:02] <titusgroen> http://pastebin.com/wA64E0Zi[12:07:03] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/JeNXZp] bailey - Pastebin.com[12:07:30] <ShayBox> Model name: AMD FX(tm)-6100 Six-Core Processor[12:07:37] <thid> pacman -S wpa_supplicant[12:07:39] <ShayBox> awsome: :D i figured out /exec -o[12:08:01] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[12:09:17] <titusgroen> Will I need a reboot now?[12:09:18] *** sunitknandi <sunitknandi!~sunit@unaffiliated/sunitknandi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:09:44] <thid> titusgroen: u shouldnt[12:09:47] <thid> check now[12:10:23] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@c-0485e655.018-250-6c756e3.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:11:18] *** sunitknandi <sunitknandi!~sunit@unaffiliated/sunitknandi> has joined #manjaro[12:13:30] <fulcan> What the differnce between bungie and i3?[12:13:59] *** titusgroen <titusgroen!~marcus@cpe-107-15-229-74.nc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:14:47] <PMunch> fulcan, uhm[12:14:50] <PMunch> Quite a lot[12:15:06] *** titusg <titusg!~marcus@cpe-107-15-229-74.nc.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[12:15:10] <titusg> still no good :([12:15:21] <fulcan> what is the window manager for bungie vs i3?[12:15:53] <PMunch> i3 is a Window Manager[12:16:27] <titusg> Although, now I feel I have too much going on. I tried to yaourt the b43-firmware[12:16:31] <titusg> and the broadcom-wl[12:16:38] <PMunch> Budgie has their own WM, called Budgie WM I think[12:16:39] <thid> don't mix those[12:16:41] <fulcan> PMunch: is it a xfce spin off? a grub spinoff? or did they use 2 pencils?[12:16:51] <titusg> How do i turn one off?[12:16:57] <PMunch> fulcan, I think you are a bit confused[12:17:00] <thid> remove titusg[12:17:13] <thid> grub spinoff? LOL[12:17:14] <PMunch> Grub has nothing to do with WMs[12:17:22] <fulcan> PMunch: no. I refuse to touch kde or anything that smells like it.[12:17:31] <PMunch> Both i3 and Budgie are made from scratch[12:17:40] <PMunch> But are two completely different things[12:17:49] <thid> PMunch: no they are both grub spin off <hahahaha>[12:18:00] <PMunch> thid, -_-[12:18:13] <PMunch> They're both started by Grub, not based on Grub source code :P[12:18:16] <thid> oh come on, he made my day[12:18:23] <PMunch> Haha[12:19:03] <thid> hes "grub spin off" was more brain destroying that 1L of whisky[12:19:19] <titusg> hm.. pacman -r isn't getting rid of broadcom-wl[12:19:34] <thid> coz it should be R[12:19:38] <thid> pacman -R[12:19:47] <titusg> sorry gang, brand new here. Manjaro is working great on my T420, this old macbook is slowly murdering me[12:19:51] <PMunch> fulcan, i3 is a tiling window manager. This means that it tiles windows instead of creating the normal floating windows you are used to. Great for layouting and keyboard control. Budgie is a floating window manager, probably the kind you are used to. It is made to be the DE of Solus, but will work mostly like any other DE.[12:20:15] <titusg> Target not found?[12:20:23] <titusg> But it shows up in pacman -Qs broadcom[12:20:35] <thid> bah[12:20:46] <thid> hard to say man I have same wifi[12:20:59] <thid> and installed it with kernel via mhwd-kernel[12:21:04] <thid> 4.9 ofc[12:21:09] <titusg> oohh[12:21:12] <titusg> I just got the stable[12:21:19] <titusg> So I think I'm on 4.4?[12:21:25] <thid> should work also[12:21:39] <fulcan> PMunch: I am actually one of those old dawg hates of desktops. i3 sounds significanly more interesting[12:21:46] <titusg> curses, for a second I thought upgrading might be the answer.[12:22:00] <thid> fulcan: roll with openbox then or qtile[12:23:06] <titusg> so I go for a clean install again, maybe just wpa (what was it again? jsut rebooted) might be enough?[12:23:25] <thid> pacman -S wpa_supplicant[12:23:29] <thid> and u should be ok[12:23:56] <PMunch> fulcan, I use i3 and it's pretty great[12:24:04] <PMunch> But it definitely takes some getting used to[12:25:09] <titusg> @thid recommend 4.9?[12:25:31] <fulcan> PMunch: I dislike desktops and I have been thru 5 operating systems on this laptop trying to keep KDE syle services from locking the system up (3 freezez per day). i3 sounds a lot less gui dependant.[12:25:53] <fulcan> less gui = great![12:26:05] <thid> titusg: idk I always use uptodate kernel often with ck patches[12:26:22] <thid> dkms for that[12:26:42] <PMunch> fulcan, yeah i3 is super light weight[12:26:53] <thid> tty is super light weight[12:26:55] <PMunch> And most people would use something like dmenu or rofi[12:27:03] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-015-225.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[12:27:06] <thid> and no gui dependant[12:27:07] <PMunch> And other light weight services[12:27:27] <thid> PMunch: rofi, dmenu is way to much outdated[12:27:31] <fulcan> I'm sold! I'll take two. :)[12:27:40] <PMunch> thid, rofi is pretty great :)[12:27:45] <thid> ikr[12:28:43] <thid> got I'm fighting here with 6x servers with proxmox T_T[12:29:08] <thid> god*[12:29:13] <PMunch> Proxmox?[12:29:16] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-178-000-010-091.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[12:29:16] * Batch gives thid 200% stamina[12:29:28] <thid> PMunch: https://www.proxmox.com/en/[12:29:29] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/J3Nurj] Proxmox - Powerful Open Source Server Solutions[12:29:41] <PMunch> Yeah, got that by googling :P[12:30:00] <thid> each proxmox about 10LXC+10KVM[12:30:05] <PMunch> But that's just full of promotion :P[12:30:21] *** titusg <titusg!~marcus@cpe-107-15-229-74.nc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:30:28] <thid> its kinda great[12:30:33] <thid> u have this web panel[12:30:55] <thid> as frontend for whole virtualization[12:32:15] <PMunch> Hmm, seams nice[12:32:19] <PMunch> seems*[12:32:20] <thid> yep[12:32:31] <PMunch> Maybe that's what we should do with our server[12:32:40] <thid> got even somewhere nice ebook about it[12:33:43] <thid> http://imgur.com/a/T2gUq[12:33:43] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ckLanK] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[12:35:05] <PMunch> Dual screen with Unity?[12:35:13] <PMunch> What horror is this!?[12:35:22] <thid> :D[12:35:52] <thid> no time to change ;([12:36:01] <thid> but I want manjaro here at some point[12:36:07] <thid> for now to buys with servers[12:36:10] <PMunch> Ctrl+Alt+f2[12:36:13] <PMunch> Would be better :P[12:36:17] <thid> but did u see server![12:36:21] <thid> I luv it[12:36:22] *** titusgroen <titusgroen!~marcus@cpe-107-15-229-74.nc.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[12:36:26] <thid> 400GB ram[12:36:39] <thid> tho next will need to be bigger :([12:36:51] <PMunch> :S[12:36:59] <PMunch> 400GB RAM?[12:37:04] <thid> yeah[12:37:09] <PMunch> Actual RAM?[12:37:13] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[12:37:15] <thid> yeah[12:37:20] <PMunch> Wowzer :S[12:37:31] <thid> 2x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2670 0 @ 2.60GHz[12:37:37] <thid> so 32 threads[12:37:46] <titusgroen> thid how do I use the wpa thing?[12:38:01] *** cr4zyman <cr4zyman!~cr4zyman@a109-49-29-231.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:38:03] <thid> titusgroen: u dont it should just handle passwords[12:38:48] <thid> PMunch: we have 2x ssd raid1, 4x 2TR HDD raid10[12:39:10] <thid> and now I want to add 4x ssd 800-900GB in raid0 :D[12:39:33] <PMunch> :S[12:39:42] <thid> and buy some nice GPU to test out gpu databases[12:39:53] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-015-076.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[12:40:03] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-178-000-010-091.178.000.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:40:17] <PMunch> My server is an old desktop..[12:40:20] <thid> I was thinking about gtx 1080[12:40:25] <PMunch> But I might be getting a new one soon[12:40:33] <thid> like 2x gtx 1080[12:40:37] <PMunch> We got some old server hardware[12:40:39] <thid> could be nice[12:40:44] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@134.104.27.1> has joined #manjaro[12:40:50] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as Binford[12:41:08] *** ink0gnito <ink0gnito!~ink0gnito@5.79.74.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[12:41:19] <thid> PMunch: u can get cheap used rack servers[12:41:45] <PMunch> Yeah, we got ours for free[12:41:58] *** titusgroen <titusgroen!~marcus@cpe-107-15-229-74.nc.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:42:25] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1EAEE3D2513C1F79FBB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:42:38] <PMunch> Best one was 2 separate machines in a 1U. Both machines had twin Xeons (can't remember the model but they had hyperthreading and 2.5Ghz) and 48GB RAM.[12:42:51] <thid> not bad[12:42:58] <PMunch> Plus 4 2.5" slots[12:43:06] <thid> those are so cheap[12:43:18] <thid> but they have usually 1gbps ethernet[12:43:35] <thid> and can work flawless as local nas/storage[12:43:46] <thid> with owncloud or something similar[12:45:35] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:45:39] <ShayBox> i'll take 8gb of that ram xD[12:45:58] <ShayBox> maybe a few TB of data for myip cam[12:46:00] <thid> 8gb ram is nothing[12:46:05] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-015-076.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:46:19] <thid> my desktop gona get upgrade 4x8GB[12:46:33] <thid> coz I dont see point in having less then 16/32gb ram[12:46:45] *** hmmm <hmmm!4d625254@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.98.82.84> has joined #manjaro[12:46:49] <hmmm> yo[12:46:50] *** ink0gnito <ink0gnito!~ink0gnito@5.79.74.141> has joined #manjaro[12:46:56] <ShayBox> i have 8Gb in my desktop, room for 8 more, which is just fine for me, but i need a server with like 16-32 for hosting game servers[12:47:02] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-015-206.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[12:47:07] <hmmm> there is nothing about the sha1 checksum for manjaro 16.10[12:47:13] <hmmm> im sure its fine but i just want to be sure[12:47:20] <thid> ShayBox: 16gb ram for game server is abit low[12:47:27] <thid> most game server use also mssql[12:47:38] <thid> for that behemote u need at least 16[12:47:43] <thid> u should aim for 32[12:48:15] <ShayBox> i'm not gonna be a hosting company, but just host a few modded mc servers for my friends or some other games like terraria and starbound[12:48:30] *** Binford <Binford!~manjaro-k@134.104.27.1> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:48:30] *** hmmm <hmmm!4d625254@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.98.82.84> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:48:36] <thid> oh[12:49:42] <PMunch> thid, I've got a measly 8 in my desktop :([12:50:22] <ShayBox> same, thats just fine[12:50:42] <ShayBox> depending on weather or not you render videos or have virtual machines etc[12:50:52] <PMunch> ShayBox, my modded MC server has 4GB :P[12:50:59] <PMunch> But it's not the smoothest experience :P[12:51:03] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-216-015-206.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:51:29] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-072-222-133.088.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[12:51:41] <thid> ShayBox if u use mostly ssd u want huge ram to cache them all and not using pagefile/swap[12:51:46] <ShayBox> i have a vanilla server (plots w/ free we/voxelsniper) on an old dell w/ single core 2.20ghz ddr2 667Mhz 4GB (server has 2gb) and it runs fine (besides my internet speed)[12:52:00] <ShayBox> OMG...[12:52:01] <thid> my god[12:52:04] <thid> ddr2[12:52:05] <ShayBox> I forgot to setup swap...[12:52:08] <thid> 667mhz[12:52:08] <ShayBox> dammit[12:52:13] <thid> no ecc[12:52:21] <ShayBox> ikr[12:52:35] <thid> thats not server! thats good for tetris![12:53:03] <ShayBox> keep in mind, before it ran ubuntu server, i used to run windows vista and host the same server, AND play at the same time[12:53:17] <thid> ...[12:53:21] <ShayBox> lul[12:53:27] <thid> right...[12:53:35] <ShayBox> its also my "NoTracK" and "Jenkins" server at the same time righ now[12:53:46] <thid> ...[12:53:52] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[12:53:55] <ShayBox> though i ran at like 10-15 fps. I litlerly dont know how i played at that[12:54:06] <thid> and its also used by gamer girl! that plays candy crush as pr0![12:54:15] <ShayBox> xD[12:54:27] <ShayBox> its a Dell Inspiron 537slim[12:54:36] <ShayBox> w/ upgraded ram and no gpu (intergated)[12:54:44] <PMunch> Intel Core2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz, 4GB DDR2 @ 800MHz[12:54:47] <PMunch> That's my server[12:55:15] <thid> btw I got back my old laptop...with pentium 3, 256mb ram, 10GB hdd, fdd!, cdrom![12:55:33] <ShayBox> i think my Rpi3 beats the dell... tbh but it doesnt, somehow. i ran the spigot buildtool on it and my dell, dell does it in 21 mins, the rpi3 took HOURS[12:55:52] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-092-076-215-214.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[12:56:11] <thid> it hue as slim desktop or microatx xD[12:56:15] <thid> huge*[12:56:18] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-072-222-133.088.072.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[12:56:26] <ShayBox> what?[12:56:27] <thid> and no idea what to do with him[12:56:38] <ShayBox> oh your old machine?[12:56:42] <thid> ShayBox: 12:55 < thid> btw I got back my old laptop...with pentium 3, 256mb ram, 10GB hdd, fdd!, cdrom![12:56:49] <ShayBox> hmmm[12:56:57] <PMunch> Haha, I've got an old 128MB laptop at home[12:57:00] <PMunch> With touchscreen[12:57:00] <ShayBox> install...[12:57:16] <PMunch> Can only boot from floppy and CD-rom, none of which are integrated -_-[12:57:20] <ShayBox> install a notepad OS and use it as a electronic notepad?[12:57:35] *** Dearu <Dearu!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[12:57:43] <PMunch> I kinda want to try a minimal Linux distro on it[12:57:49] <thid> PMunch: I used pxe to boot grub afair and then from grub boot usb xD[12:58:01] <thid> tho its usb1.1[12:58:09] <PMunch> http://bbs.sandbox.cz/~covex/hw/b2131/b2131_top.jpg[12:58:09] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/q0nOQW] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[12:58:18] <ShayBox> LUL[12:58:21] <PMunch> thid, I installed XP on it over PXE[12:58:24] <ShayBox> a email light[12:58:25] <PMunch> Took three full days..[12:58:29] <thid> xD[12:58:32] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[12:58:33] <ShayBox> those buttons[12:58:46] <thid> :D[12:58:47] <ShayBox> install steam os xD[12:58:50] <ShayBox> in-home streaming[12:58:54] <thid> coz it use 10mbps xD[12:59:15] <thid> ShayBox: nah it wont work[12:59:41] <PMunch> http://www.tvfilmprops.co.uk/userdata/PRODPIC-930.jpg[12:59:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/q3XKVJ] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[12:59:45] <PMunch> Another pic[12:59:47] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:59:48] <thid> unless ur talking about playing on 1024 xD[12:59:54] <ShayBox> http://damnsmalllinux.org/[12:59:56] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/U0eKvH] DSL information[13:00:05] <thid> ShayBox: alpine is better[13:00:12] <PMunch> Got an IR blaster, two full ethernet ports[13:00:19] <thid> https://alpinelinux.org/[13:00:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/UPgyDU] index | Alpine Linux[13:00:21] <PMunch> And a touchscreen[13:00:25] <PMunch> Single point touch[13:00:28] <thid> ShayBox: DSL is outdated as fk[13:00:51] <thid> brb coffe[13:00:55] <ShayBox> install alpine and get make it a resource monitor for your network? xD run NoTrack on it.?[13:01:51] <ShayBox> that thing is DED[13:02:11] <ShayBox> i need to setup QEUM and KVM.[13:03:30] *** m712 <m712!~annoying@2602:ffc5::ffc5:cd91> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:05:45] *** m712 <m712!~annoying@2602:ffc5::ffc5:cd91> has joined #manjaro[13:06:12] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ANancy-256-1-76-92.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[13:07:01] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ANancy-256-1-76-92.w90-26.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:10:49] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-092-076-215-214.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:11:48] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-092-076-215-214.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[13:12:22] *** Hurricane <Hurricane!51f46124@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.244.97.36> has joined #manjaro[13:12:45] *** Hurricane is now known as Guest67724[13:13:59] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@AAmiens-654-1-99-212.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr> has joined #manjaro[13:15:13] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[13:15:59] *** Guest67724 <Guest67724!51f46124@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.244.97.36> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:19:34] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[13:20:57] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAFCA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:25:31] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@84.19.166.45> has joined #manjaro[13:25:35] *** peaveyman <peaveyman!~gary@unaffiliated/peaveyman> has joined #manjaro[13:28:22] <fulcan> the i3 installation is broke. I am in propetual setup[13:29:35] <ShayBox> xD[13:29:48] <ShayBox> the community edition?[13:30:12] <ShayBox> it'd be better to just get the net version of manjaro and follow the ic install guide on the wiki[13:31:05] *** Dearu <Dearu!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:31:25] *** m712 is now known as enp0s3[13:31:31] <ShayBox> nice[13:31:52] <ShayBox> eth0lab[13:33:11] <thid> back[13:33:30] <ShayBox> wb[13:34:07] <ShayBox> 4 some reason computers not recognising my ps3 controllers as a controller... i guess thats better than it instantly freezing the system and rebooting when i plugged it in[13:35:39] <ShayBox> do i use sixpair or qtsixa-git im so confused[13:37:51] <Batch> ShayBox shixpair[13:38:02] <Batch> sizpair*[13:38:09] <Batch> damn[13:38:13] <Batch> sixpair*[13:38:14] <fulcan> ShayBox: yes. and the md5s match[13:38:16] <Batch> xD[13:39:08] <fulcan> I think I'll pass on i3. I'm not looking for another project.[13:39:24] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@85.96.102.88> has joined #manjaro[13:41:07] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@85.96.102.88> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:41:30] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@85.96.102.88> has joined #manjaro[13:43:12] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@85.96.102.88> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:43:48] *** Lowl3v3l__ <Lowl3v3l__!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-092-076-215-214.092.076.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[13:45:02] <totalkrill_> fulcan, its not a project, its a lifestyle ;)[13:46:59] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[13:46:59] <fulcan> I'm getting to old for all of that. I have battled more installations of Linux than you can shake a stick at. I choose the easy path these days. :)[13:47:10] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3E98B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:47:32] <thid> fulcan: I wouldn't be so sure about that[13:47:57] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-073-020-188.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[13:50:19] <thid> also manjaro i3 or anything else is just a mater of few hrs of customization and ur done[13:50:49] <thid> tho net install is great since u start with vanillia and its going faster if u want to change everything[13:52:34] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[13:54:47] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-073-020-188.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[13:58:15] <fulcan> that is 2 more hrs than I want to deal with. Plus, knucklehead engineer is supposed to script the installation of custom hardware. anything but a disk install skips all that, the part I REALLY don't want to deal with. If its on a disk install and crap doesn't work completely out of the box, I just find a new OS. Fighting it is baloney[13:59:10] <thid> idk I prefere net install, sacrifice up to 8hrs and have system do works liek I want[13:59:16] <fulcan> nop[13:59:18] <fulcan> e[13:59:22] <thid> and since its rolling release no need to reinstall[13:59:27] <fulcan> I'm go back to winblows first[13:59:31] *** manjaro-kenny <manjaro-kenny!4a88a3d5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.74.136.163.213> has joined #manjaro[13:59:39] <thid> good choice[13:59:46] <thid> outofbox is windows/osx[13:59:50] <thid> or ubuntu[14:00:04] <fulcan> how about an engineer do his job?[14:00:25] <fulcan> posting broken software does nobody any good.[14:00:46] <manjaro-kenny> anybody have popcorn time running on manjaro?[14:01:35] <thid> I wonder what kind of engineer u are coz most that I know setup their system usually from netinstall coz they need specific packages[14:02:02] <thid> hell most of them use often kvm to have 1:1 config from production[14:02:05] <fulcan> thid: if I want Linux from scratch, I'll use Gentoo[14:02:18] <totalkrill_> Everything needs setup once at least, I script my configs for I3, and most things I can[14:02:21] <ShayBox> manjaro-kenny, strem.io w/ popcorn time addon[14:02:22] <thid> u miss the point[14:02:29] <fulcan> Linux from scratch has its purposes.[14:02:29] <totalkrill_> Just wish I could store my thudnerbird configs anywhere[14:02:36] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[14:02:42] <totalkrill_> Like git or something[14:02:45] <fulcan> I am not looking for a Linux from scratch solution[14:02:59] <thid> nobody tell u to do LFS[14:03:11] <totalkrill_> thunderbird stoes so many private stuff in its config directorie :([14:03:13] <thid> for me u just have no idea what u want[14:03:31] <ShayBox> anyone know if there is a good gpu for linux that runs on PCIe 2.0 x1 that is cheap, so i can run my KVM on my main gpu (gtx 1050)?[14:03:31] <thid> KDE bad coz bad, i3 bad coz idk, openbox bad coz u need to config it[14:03:35] <fulcan> a Laptop OS[14:03:35] <thid> what about gnome ?[14:03:39] <fulcan> not a server[14:03:49] *** Joseph_ <Joseph_!~Penskins@gateway/tor-sasl/penskins> has joined #manjaro[14:04:07] <ShayBox> KDE is pretty bad, from a kde user. but i cant stand any others, except gnome, its alright.[14:04:13] <thid> I use deepin desktop, works great do what I want[14:04:42] <fulcan> thid: on this particular computer, I have fought system freezes with KDE and gnome. If xfce fails, the desktop is gone all together.[14:04:45] <thid> I'v spend 30min to config GUI and few hrs to get packages I need[14:04:59] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@host86-191-186-58.range86-191.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[14:05:36] <fulcan> xfce is my last shot to get a stable gui on this machine.[14:05:49] <thid> perhaps its machine problem[14:05:58] <thid> and what was bad about i3 ?[14:06:04] <thid> u have it outofbox[14:06:04] <Joseph_> yeah, it isn't usual for a DE to freeze[14:06:28] <thid> nothing to configure if u use everything default[14:06:32] <thid> just IDE[14:06:37] <fulcan> thid: the RAM has been swapped, as has the HD. I'm on my 4th OS.[14:06:39] <thid> compilers etc[14:06:53] <ShayBox> anyone know if i can runa "PCI-E 2.0 x16" gpu on "PCI-E 2.0 x1" port?[14:07:14] <thid> ur ram was swaped on i3 ?[14:07:16] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[14:08:19] <fulcan> thid: nope. but ram is verified good[14:10:22] *** Isaac <Isaac!~vcore@104.238.195.140> has joined #manjaro[14:10:23] <thid> and how much ram u have >[14:11:12] <Joseph_> fulcan: beginning to think it may be a mobo or a PSU issue[14:11:38] *** Kdax1 <Kdax1!~Kdax@p2E53FE2D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[14:14:28] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@121.26.78.112> has joined #manjaro[14:15:10] *** Kdax <Kdax!~Kdax@84.19.166.45> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[14:15:12] <fulcan> Joseph_: PSU? typically they either work or they don't. Note: This issue started the day I nuked winblows off this machine (2nd week of ownership)[14:15:25] <Joseph_> fulcan: that is weird[14:16:04] <Joseph_> as far as PSU's working, they can fail in many ways; they can either be more catastrophic and refuse to work at all, or they can randomly restart, make your GPU stall and thus freeze the screen, etc.[14:16:17] <Joseph_> so I'm not sure what's going on here.[14:17:49] <fulcan> Joseph_: from overheating or custom built computer with a bad ground. This is an HP laptop.[14:18:14] <thid> I would say it might be mobo[14:18:14] <fulcan> a junker netbook, except it has the upgraded audio and dual core.[14:18:17] <thid> or drivers[14:18:30] <Joseph_> the overheating should have also happened on Windows, and *more so* on Windows because of its penchant for running processes you don't know what they are, but consume 100% CPU[14:19:11] <fulcan> its some driver. and its some driver that x11 is calling on. It only locks when firefox or other is running and I beat it up a little. But it doesn't take much.[14:19:22] <Joseph_> interesting.[14:19:54] <fulcan> not a trace in the logs either.[14:21:02] <fulcan> I need to run GDB on the kernel and trace the crash. Its been years since I've been that deep without a paycheck.[14:21:51] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@186.223.195.141> has joined #manjaro[14:23:11] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:24:45] *** lenwood <lenwood!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[14:28:47] <fulcan> the manjaro xfce installation is nice and polished ;)[14:29:22] <fulcan> nice and easy, just like how I like my women. ;)[14:29:23] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-174-105.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[14:29:41] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@194.108.3.14> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[14:29:52] *** lolok <lolok!4d625254@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.98.82.84> has joined #manjaro[14:30:05] <lolok> has anyone got the link to the sha1 checksum[14:30:15] <lolok> the link on the page is dead for 16.10[14:30:37] *** hank <hank!~hank@p549AC73A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[14:31:37] <ShayBox> what are we talking about now?[14:31:52] <Joseph_> lolok: 64 bit, or 32 bit? xfce or KDE?[14:31:56] <Joseph_> please be specific.[14:32:07] <lolok> 64bit xfce[14:32:14] <lolok> is it c93dd4a7606611429d181747203ef5ec6d00f152[14:32:44] <lolok> okay i got it[14:32:59] <lolok> i didnt realise that the link was a sha-1 file because i disabled that[14:33:01] <lolok> rip sorry[14:33:12] <Joseph_> c93dd4a7606611429d181747203ef5ec6d00f152 manjaro-xfce-16.10.3-stable-x86_64.iso[14:33:13] <lolok> im off to install now wish me look[14:33:15] <lolok> luck[14:33:17] <Joseph_> I just downloaded it[14:33:22] *** Stuzz <Stuzz!~Stuzz@CPE-121-222-131-9.lnse1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:33:22] <Joseph_> from sourceforge.[14:33:27] <lolok> yeah i got it[14:33:33] <lolok> cheers bro[14:33:36] <Joseph_> mhm[14:33:56] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@121.26.78.112> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:34:03] *** lolok <lolok!4d625254@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.77.98.82.84> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:34:25] *** ZaPPeRoo <ZaPPeRoo!~ZaP@66-247-202-7.setardsl.aw> has joined #manjaro[14:36:39] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[14:39:42] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-094-223-174-105.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:40:09] <manjaro-kenny> how do i install a tar.gz in manjaro?[14:40:24] <manjaro-kenny> Im a complete newbie guys sorry.[14:41:06] <manjaro-kenny> some of the tutorial assume your competent lol[14:43:11] <Joseph_> manjaro-kenny: tar.gz is a file. "tar" is the program you want, and it should already be there[14:43:40] <Joseph_> manjaro-kenny: to inflate a tar.gz file, do "tar -czvf name-of-archive.tar.gz /path/to/directory-or-file" in the command line[14:44:48] <manjaro-kenny> im in the extracted folder on my desktop in terminal..what do i do to install it?[14:45:46] <Joseph_> manjaro-kenny: you need to be very specific here. did you download the source code of a program in that tar.gz file?[14:46:01] <Joseph_> you're leaving out details.[14:47:12] <ShayBox> is there a mkpkg file in that extracted folder?[14:47:14] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAFCA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:47:38] <ShayBox> also what program is it?[14:47:41] <manjaro-kenny> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/stremio-bin/ went here under sources I chose the 4th one[14:47:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/GCwhwO] AUR (en) - stremio-bin[14:47:54] <ShayBox> oh, in terminal type "yaourt -S stremio-bin"[14:48:04] <ShayBox> any package from the AUR can be installed that way[14:48:34] <Joseph_> manjaro-kenny: you didn't have to download that. you can use the yet another arch user repository manager[14:48:40] <Joseph_> manjaro-kenny: see the command that ShayBox wrote[14:48:47] <ShayBox> yep[14:49:07] <ShayBox> it confused me at first, i used to download every aur package and install it manually every time :P[14:49:55] <manjaro-kenny> lol its a new world but very interesting. I dont see a mkpkg[14:50:14] <ShayBox> ignore that[14:50:17] <ShayBox> delete that folder[14:50:26] <ShayBox> just type "yaourt -S stremio-bin" in terminal[14:51:47] <manjaro-kenny> lol its a new world but very interesting. I dont see a mkpkg?[14:51:58] <ShayBox> ...[14:52:05] <ShayBox> ignore what i said about mkpkg[14:52:16] <ShayBox> forget the tar.gz and folder...[14:52:18] <manjaro-kenny> its asking edit pkgbuild?[14:52:20] <fulcan> how do you run a pacman update on the entire system?[14:52:26] <ShayBox> press N[14:52:48] <ShayBox> fulcan, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Rosetta[14:52:49] *** manots <manots!~computer_@198.209.13.246> has joined #manjaro[14:52:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jhCqHt] Pacman/Rosetta - ArchWiki[14:52:54] <ShayBox> that will help[14:52:56] <Joseph_> fulcan: sudo pacman -Syu[14:53:12] <manjaro-kenny> its doing its thing! you guys are awesome[14:53:38] <fulcan> Joseph_: thank you![14:53:48] <ShayBox> manjaro-kenny, if there are any programs you need, just use that AUR website to search for them, then type "yaourt -S (package)" to install it[14:53:55] <Joseph_> fulcan: also do ready that Arch link ShayBox pasted here, it explains everything in greater detail[14:53:58] <Joseph_> read*[14:54:03] <fulcan> I'm a pacman n00b. Very little Arch history, though this will change :)[14:54:26] <ShayBox> i only know pacman -S but i can use arch, Octopi helps me :P[14:55:19] <fulcan> I do everything via command line only.. a little pig headed that way.[14:55:55] <Joseph_> fulcan: it's much better imho with command line[14:56:23] <fulcan> Joseph_: yup. less things to break and it won't hide what going on.[14:56:36] <Joseph_> I ask people to make me files named file{01..100}.txt in a GUI[14:56:39] <Joseph_> they can't[14:56:44] <Joseph_> but it's a bash one-liner. lol[14:56:46] <fulcan> I check my email with mutt, surf with elinks[14:56:47] *** Dearu <Dearu!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[14:57:06] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@79.114.65.124> has joined #manjaro[14:58:21] <fulcan> I have zero need for a desktop, except for one or two shitty websites I have to use with a regular browser. If it weren't for those site? all desktops would be deleted in full from all systems.[14:58:22] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as manjaro-kde5__[14:58:26] *** manjaro-kde5__ is now known as manjaro-kde5-[14:58:46] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@79.114.65.124> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:59:05] <Joseph_> well, the desktop on GNU/Linux has improved dramatically over the past few years I'd say[14:59:17] *** orbit <orbit!~manjaro-k@79.114.65.124> has joined #manjaro[14:59:18] <Joseph_> but nothing will replace the sheer power of the command line[14:59:29] <Joseph_> short of connecting the system to your brain[14:59:40] *** orbit is now known as Guest55108[14:59:51] <fulcan> Joseph_: depends on which one. In my opinion, KDE is worse than winblows. its only saving grace is that its open source.[14:59:51] <ShayBox> thats something i cant wait for[15:00:22] *** Guest55108 <Guest55108!~manjaro-k@79.114.65.124> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:00:28] <Joseph_> well KDE is just one. Zorin has a great interface, very easy to use and clean[15:00:42] <Joseph_> elementaryOS is also very neat, very reminiscent of macOS[15:01:10] <Joseph_> I don't like macOS but their interface is pretty clean imho[15:01:50] <ShayBox> thats the one thing i like about mac, is the interface. windows for the game support and linux for everything else[15:01:57] <Joseph_> yeah[15:02:01] <manjaro-kenny> so synaptic isnt available in manjaro?[15:02:15] <Joseph_> manjaro-kenny: that's for Debian-based distributions[15:02:21] <Joseph_> manjaro-kenny: Manjaro is based on Arch Linux[15:02:28] <ShayBox> what does that do anyway?[15:02:34] <ShayBox> ohh[15:02:36] <ShayBox> OHH[15:02:37] <Joseph_> it's the graphical frontend for dpkg[15:02:39] <ShayBox> use octopi[15:02:50] <ShayBox> i thought he meant the mouse/keyboard thing for windows[15:02:50] <Joseph_> yeah, or pamac[15:03:17] <Joseph_> ah[15:03:19] <thid> ShayBox: that might be a case also xD[15:03:26] <thid> for touchpad[15:03:35] <fulcan> Joseph_: Haven't had a chance to play with zorin. My last expreince with XFCE was ok. But because I did an install from scratch, everything run a little crummy. It will be nice to test a polished XFCE installation.[15:03:59] <Joseph_> fulcan: I just managed to get Xfce Manjaro (latest stable with 4.9.2 kernel) installed on an old netbook[15:04:01] <Joseph_> works smooth.[15:04:14] <ShayBox> i installed manjaro xfce earlier, it had a cool theme on the live cd, but after installing it was stock xfce, so i was lazy and went back to kde[15:04:17] <Joseph_> much better than the Windows 7 Starter crap it came with[15:04:41] <Joseph_> ShayBox: hm? I didn't notice that. the theme on the live USB I tried (the one I installed from) was the same as the later install[15:04:59] <fulcan> just saying the word microsoft should be a crime.[15:05:10] <Joseph_> LibreOffice is improving, yeah[15:05:12] <fulcan> ;)[15:05:17] <Joseph_> but for most word processing I use LaTeX anyway[15:05:23] <Joseph_> much prettier output.[15:05:27] <ShayBox> i got a free computer from my online school (they take it back after i graduate) it came with a locked down win7starter but they didnt enable secure boot, or put a bios password.. so i just installed win 10[15:05:55] <Joseph_> "they didnt enable secure boot, or put a bios password"[15:06:01] <Joseph_> And they expect people to keep Windows 7 Start?[15:06:04] <Joseph_> lol[15:06:06] <ShayBox> xD right[15:06:19] <Joseph_> that's begging for an upgrade. hell, I'd just go ahead and put Linux on the thing[15:06:29] <ShayBox> you couldnt install programs or anything, but i got programs on it with a usb and portable programs. but then figured out i could install another os...[15:06:30] *** Jokah <Jokah!~manjaro-k@91.244.169.154> has joined #manjaro[15:07:04] <ShayBox> at one point before i built my main pc, it was my main pc, i had switched between windows and linux so much on it, but in the end, its running win 10 and afk's the school website to count up my hours[15:07:26] <Joseph_> hah.[15:07:43] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[15:07:46] <fulcan> I adore OpenOffice. I grew up on WordPerfect and OpenOffice is holding true to established working engineering designs.[15:07:56] <ShayBox> what r they gunna do, sue me? i'll just say it asked me to update to windows 10[15:08:01] <Joseph_> OpenOffice is dying though, if you mean the fork that Apache took over[15:08:07] <Joseph_> LibreOffice is the way to go[15:09:21] <fulcan> how do you kill autolog out?[15:09:58] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has left #manjaro[15:10:42] <fulcan> I found it[15:11:32] <fulcan> the worst part about installing a new OS, is turning all the crap off. :/[15:11:45] <Joseph_> lol.[15:11:56] <Joseph_> you think Linux is bad? try turning some stuff off in Windows 10[15:11:59] <Joseph_> you *can't*[15:13:10] <fulcan> Joseph_: I tried win10 for about 10 min. That is when I not only swore off winblows, but I also implemented a $200 discover fee just to look at the keyboard. MS products are completely banned from my network.[15:13:33] <Joseph_> a $200 discover fee just to look at the keyboard?[15:13:35] <Joseph_> hm?[15:13:57] <fulcan> in other words, don't bother. :)[15:14:01] <Joseph_> hehe[15:14:32] <fulcan> I won't even look at it. My professional diagnoses with any winblows issue is to delete it.[15:15:40] <fulcan> now adays your computer is connected to FBI puters by default, if you're using winblows. Bill Gates sold out quick.[15:16:02] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2405:204:3087:2bbc:fcaa:4c64:bd57:4923> has joined #manjaro[15:16:22] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as a000[15:16:40] <Joseph_> xD[15:17:06] <ShayBox> sadly, you have to run winblows to get some things like adobe stuff and game support, but luckily wine, virtual machines, and KVM's exist :D[15:17:46] <fulcan> if all I have to do is disable one power setting and one update to be all settled in? Then I have no problems today. :)[15:17:53] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[15:18:07] <Joseph_> dual-booting and VM's are the way to go[15:18:13] <Joseph_> Wine is too finicky/buggy at times[15:18:17] <fulcan> ShayBox: once you figure out how to move stuff in Gimp, Photoshop becomes junk.[15:18:19] <manjaro-kenny> stremio installed and whoever designed this program was a genius! couldnt ask for a better look and feel[15:18:39] <manjaro-kenny> thanks guys Ive learned a lot in these past 20 min![15:18:43] <ShayBox> dualbooting kinda sucks... tbh i'm gonna setup QEMU/KVM so i can run a near native performance windows inside linux[15:19:01] <Joseph_> yeah, hypervisor virtualization is better than VirtualBox/VMware[15:19:04] <fulcan> I'm not a big gamer. Linux has more than everything I need for entertainment (pornhub) :)[15:19:15] <ShayBox> :> so does 4chan[15:19:15] <Joseph_> TMI[15:19:15] <Joseph_> lol[15:19:19] <ShayBox> NMI[15:19:27] <ShayBox> NEI*[15:19:36] <manots> wow[15:19:39] <ShayBox> xD[15:20:14] *** jonathon <jonathon!~jonathonf@london.webcrumb.net> has joined #manjaro[15:20:14] *** jonathon <jonathon!~jonathonf@london.webcrumb.net> has quit IRC (Changing host)[15:20:14] *** jonathon <jonathon!~jonathonf@unaffiliated/jonathon> has joined #manjaro[15:20:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v jonathon[15:20:49] <ShayBox> anyone here using kde?[15:20:54] <Joseph_> <<< Xfce[15:21:03] *** Joseph_ is now known as Joseph[15:21:08] * jonathon uses MATE[15:21:21] * ShayBox uses por... i mean KDE[15:22:08] <ShayBox> guess nobody[15:22:42] <ShayBox> anyone play minecraft (assumage is happening right now)[15:24:45] <fulcan> whew! thats a big update she's running there for a new install... o.0[15:24:58] <ShayBox> ? what[15:25:12] <Joseph> huh?[15:25:15] <jonathon> if you installed the 16.10 iso then you'll get all the updates to date[15:25:25] <jonathon> so yeah, you'll have a large initial update[15:25:35] <ShayBox> i had 0 updates...[15:25:45] <Joseph> oh, yeah. sudo pacman -Syu on my install ran for a WHILE[15:25:45] <ShayBox> wait, nvm[15:25:55] <ShayBox> im not using 16.10[15:25:57] <ShayBox> xD[15:26:11] <jonathon> well, you won't be using 16.10 now anyway ;)[15:26:18] <ShayBox> why?[15:26:23] <jonathon> rolling release[15:26:30] <ShayBox> is something new out?[15:26:35] <jonathon> e.g. i installed 0.8.7 but that's not what i'm using[15:26:44] <fulcan> Never slack on your updates.. never.[15:26:58] <Joseph> ShayBox: that isn't the way rolling releases work. everything is updated incrementally, there's not really any "point" or "fixed" releases[15:27:11] <Joseph> ShayBox: so no worries[15:27:14] <fulcan> I have participated in the $165k update. It was disgusting[15:27:14] <jonathon> ShayBox, you're not reinstalling every new Manjaro release are you?[15:27:18] <ShayBox> i installed the dev build, because i needed the latest kernel to boot[15:27:22] <Joseph> ShayBox: what?[15:27:31] <Joseph> ShayBox: uh. you can get the latest kernels for stable releases too :/[15:27:36] <Joseph> you don't need dev releases[15:27:45] <jonathon> Joseph, depends if the hardware will boot the 16.10 iso[15:28:03] <ShayBox> i tried the stable, but it wouldnt boot into X becuase it was using an old kernel that 370 nvidia driver wouldnt support[15:28:05] <jonathon> the dev iso will have a newer kernel, so newnew hardware might work better[15:28:37] <Joseph> jonathon: yeah, but it seems ShayBox got the command line atleast (no X)[15:28:43] *** rumflump <rumflump!~weechat@unaffiliated/olscumpy> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:28:49] <Joseph> from there maybe a new kernel could have been obtained, I am not sure[15:28:55] <Joseph> I had to get a new kernel myself for my netbook[15:29:03] <Joseph> the suspend/hibernate stuff was broken on 4.4[15:29:07] <ShayBox> damn, i should have tried that, i only tried to load mhwd's video-nv[15:29:07] <jonathon> it could have been installed but if you reboot a live image then... ;)[15:29:23] <Joseph> ...I don't mean the live image, I mean install it[15:29:28] <Joseph> and then use the CLI to install new kernel[15:29:28] <jonathon> oh then yeah[15:29:35] <Joseph> :P[15:29:37] <jonathon> :)[15:29:45] <ShayBox> i got it working with the latest dev build anyawy[15:30:03] <jonathon> either way is good - as long as it gets you sorted :)[15:30:34] *** nuuuciano_ <nuuuciano_!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[15:30:37] <jonathon> the only thing to remember is that (i think) the dev images are set for the unstable branch by default[15:30:39] <fulcan> updates and break stuff and updates can fix stuff. You STILL do it religeously, no matter what.[15:30:40] <Joseph> the dev build is fine for stable usage by users, right? on other systems like Debian it's strongly discouraged unless you're helping the project out with testing[15:30:58] <jonathon> meh, i've had no issues running with unstable[15:31:10] <jonathon> any little niggles i report and roll back to testing for a little while[15:31:18] <Joseph> yeah, "reporting"[15:31:22] <ShayBox> had no issues except kde/plasma glitches... (Stares angerly at plasma team)[15:31:23] <Joseph> that's what I mean with "helping the project out"[15:31:30] <Joseph> ShayBox: heh[15:31:58] <ShayBox> like chromium randomly dissapearing from the pinned bar... (stares angerly)[15:32:43] <jonathon> you don't have to report issues, just switch the dev install to the stable branch[15:33:02] <jonathon> it's all the same packages, just a different update frequency[15:33:02] <ShayBox> lazy doe[15:33:15] <jonathon> (mostly)[15:33:16] <Joseph> jonathon: well, right, but I am guessing reporting stuff helps the project[15:33:20] <Joseph> so that they can get bugs sorted[15:33:26] <jonathon> yes indeed - more testers the better[15:33:29] <Joseph> aye.[15:33:55] <ShayBox> i wonder...[15:34:08] <ShayBox> i need to test /exec -o with a while loop...[15:34:10] <jonathon> there's a lot of people who complain loudly when something on their obscure system doesn't work quite right, and because they're on the "stable" branch that means everything should work perfectly...[15:34:12] <fulcan> generally, with dev releases, any part they touch is generally fixed and for the better. The issues come in with stuff they didn't touch (down stream)[15:35:18] <ShayBox> im bored[15:35:27] <thid> then do something[15:35:36] <Joseph> this is actually something encouraged. if any of you have read The Cathedral and the Bazaar by Eric S. Raymond, this is one the reasons the Linux kernel took off so quickly[15:35:48] <ShayBox> i am, running around my mc server like a dumb shit[15:35:48] <Joseph> it was a very active back-and-forth between Linus and the users[15:36:19] *** Jokah <Jokah!~manjaro-k@91.244.169.154> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:36:28] <ShayBox> linus tech tips? Kek[15:36:31] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[15:36:50] <Joseph> ...no, I mean Linus Torvalds, not Linus Sebastian[15:37:09] <ShayBox> oh the guy that fucked nvidia xD[15:37:22] <Joseph> haha, yes. he publically flippd Nvidia off[15:37:25] <Joseph> flipped*[15:37:33] <Joseph> for good reasons, imho[15:37:37] <ShayBox> true[15:37:52] <ShayBox> (stares at microdick)[15:38:04] <ShayBox> microdick incorperated*[15:38:56] <ShayBox> i wish i was born like 20 years later[15:38:59] <Joseph> I mean, he's known for doing that sort of stuff, but his main contribution to the free and open-source software community is being the creator of the Linux kernel[15:39:03] <fulcan> Microshaft[15:39:36] *** rumflump <rumflump!~weechat@unaffiliated/olscumpy> has joined #manjaro[15:39:44] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@dhcp-146-6-194-190.ctr.utexas.edu> has joined #manjaro[15:39:51] <ShayBox> i cant wait for linux to be on every computer in the world, and not windblows on your microshaft xD[15:40:17] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@dhcp-146-6-194-190.ctr.utexas.edu> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:40:52] <fulcan> ShayBox: microsoft was 92% market share 8-9 yrs ago. Now they are 28%[15:41:01] <ShayBox> wow[15:41:03] *** manjaro-kenny <manjaro-kenny!4a88a3d5@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.74.136.163.213> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:41:05] <ShayBox> DAMN[15:41:11] <ShayBox> they ded[15:41:12] <Joseph> that's true, but mostly because Apple has a stronger foothold[15:41:19] <Joseph> Not particularly because of GNU/Linux[15:41:30] <fulcan> Android kicked them off their high horse and Chromebook will knock them the rest of the way off the map.[15:41:40] <ShayBox> they litlerly shot themselvs when windows 8 came out, then just pulled the plug with windows 10[15:41:49] <Joseph> oh, you mean in general, including mobile devices[15:41:55] <Joseph> yeah, Android reigns king there[15:42:03] <Joseph> which, surprise surprise, runs the Linux kernel[15:42:06] <fulcan> Joseph: mobile = computer[15:42:06] <ShayBox> now thier trying to revive a dead hourse with continuing windows 10[15:42:11] <Joseph> (but isn't strictly speaking a GNU/Linux system)[15:42:14] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvieaegbkdbkrcjf> has joined #manjaro[15:42:30] <fulcan> I can do 100% of everything on a phone, that can be done on a laptop :)[15:42:41] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has joined #manjaro[15:42:42] <ShayBox> besides get 4G internet[15:42:48] *** freevryheid <freevryheid!~freevryhe@dhcp-146-6-194-190.ctr.utexas.edu> has joined #manjaro[15:42:48] <ShayBox> anywhere any time[15:42:55] *** freevryheid is now known as fvs[15:42:58] <Joseph> yeah, but I always preferred the convenience of a physical keyboard[15:42:59] <fulcan> ShayBox: I can do 4G on a phone. Mine has it[15:43:14] <Joseph> fulcan: on a laptop, I think, is what ShayBox meant. you can't usually do that on laptops[15:43:20] <ShayBox> oh, i read that backwards, i though you meant backwards[15:43:21] <fulcan> they have bluetooth keyboards[15:43:54] <ShayBox> phones can use bluetooth keyboards[15:43:56] <ShayBox> and mouses[15:43:57] <fulcan> ShayBox: I won $100 when I showed some kid how to burn a CDRom from a phone[15:44:06] <fulcan> netcat ;)[15:44:14] <ShayBox> you can do that? LUL[15:44:24] <Joseph> interesting,[15:44:26] <fulcan> sure can![15:44:37] <fulcan> dd and netcat[15:44:39] <ShayBox> guess it shouldnt suprise me, i can controll the vibrators in my bed with my computer[15:44:48] <Joseph> ^ wtf?[15:45:02] <ShayBox> i stole the vibrator motors off an old couch and put them in my bed so its a massage[15:45:03] <fulcan> ShayBox: the misses must adore you. ;)[15:45:13] * Joseph raises an eyebrow[15:45:28] <ShayBox> runs on 12v battery/transformer and controlled by my computer[15:45:51] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@194.108.3.14> has joined #manjaro[15:46:17] <ShayBox> that same battery poweres an inverter for backup power and has a car outlet for charging phones if power's out[15:46:24] <Joseph> lol[15:46:37] <fulcan> ShayBox: hacker[15:46:54] *** shariebeth <shariebeth!~sb@unaffiliated/shariebeth> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[15:46:59] <ShayBox> more of a script ninja Kappa[15:47:52] <ShayBox> i want to install linux on my HP Stream 7, but its missing some drivers like power button/volume buttons, home button, rotation sensor, sleep/hibernate, bluetooth, etc[15:48:18] <Joseph> that may be a kernel issue, which one are you running?[15:48:20] <ShayBox> but it has some like wifi, manual rotation selection, touchscreen, and battery sensor[15:48:32] *** Dearu <Dearu!~Thunderbi@78-170-164.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Dearu)[15:49:11] <ShayBox> nah, no kernel supports that tablet, i have to install 3rd party drivers to get wifi and rotation/touchscreen to work, i have to have a usb hub to use mouse/keyboard and ethernet at first[15:49:31] <Joseph> wait, "tablet"?[15:49:38] <Joseph> I thought the HP Stream 7 was a laptop[15:49:41] <ShayBox> HP Stream 7[15:49:42] <jonathon> Stream 7 works fine with an external USB hub and peripherals, but it's then just a small laptop[15:49:49] <Joseph> oh wait[15:49:52] <ShayBox> its a windows laptop, the higher number ones come with a keyboard[15:50:00] <ShayBox> 7 means 7 inch[15:50:11] <jonathon> I have a Stream 7 tablet...[15:50:15] <ShayBox> ...[15:50:18] <Joseph> I was thinking of the Stream 11 and Stream 13[15:50:19] <fulcan> nowadays, they are all the same....[15:50:40] <fulcan> is it a phone? is it a tablet? is it a laptop?????[15:50:44] <jonathon> http://support.hp.com/gb-en/drivers/selfservice/HP-Stream-7-Tablet/7439994/model/7523809[15:50:45] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ISXdMI] HP Software and Driver Downloads for HP Printers, Laptops, Desktops and More | HP® Customer Support[15:50:46] <Joseph> It's Superman![15:50:47] <ShayBox> ikr[15:51:13] <ShayBox> i have the HP Stream 7 5907[15:51:23] <ShayBox> came with win 8.1 bing edition[15:51:26] <fulcan> you can't even tell the difference between an MCU and a CPU anymore.[15:51:33] <ShayBox> installed win 10 on it[15:51:39] *** shariebeth <shariebeth!~sb@unaffiliated/shariebeth> has joined #manjaro[15:51:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v shariebeth[15:52:03] <fulcan> a Raspberry Pi is just an MCU with a boot sector. Then again, so is Arduino..[15:52:17] *** a000 <a000!~manjaro-k@2405:204:3087:2bbc:fcaa:4c64:bd57:4923> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:52:26] <ShayBox> guess thats why its so bad at cpu tasks[15:52:45] <ShayBox> my single core dell out performs the rpi3 by 10x[15:52:59] <ShayBox> in cpu atleast[15:53:37] <Joseph> that's a low-power ARM chip yeah[15:53:53] <ShayBox> but... seariously[15:53:58] <ShayBox> spelled wrong...[15:54:16] <ShayBox> a task took 20 mins on my dell and 13 hours on the rpi...[15:54:18] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[15:55:06] <fulcan> ShayBox: it has no PCI bus. The processor takes 100% of the load[15:55:07] *** Batch <Batch!~Batch@unaffiliated/batch> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:55:30] <fulcan> for what it does? Pis are amazing[15:55:42] <fulcan> I have Pi webservers everywhere[15:55:44] <ShayBox> i just use my rpi for a media center and game streamer, but linux doesnt have nvidia gamestreaming[15:56:15] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:56:31] <fulcan> developement, webserver, file server, DNS server. All of these task are ideal for a Pi[15:56:38] <ShayBox> ...[15:56:39] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[15:56:45] <ShayBox> but...[15:56:55] <PipeItToDevNull> I love my RPi wweb/openvpn server[15:57:02] <PipeItToDevNull> THey are amazing little machines[15:57:05] <ShayBox> how does a pi get schooled by a 3ds w/ homebrew and linux on it?[15:57:22] <PipeItToDevNull> Because it is a $35 computer not designed for intense processes[15:57:42] <PipeItToDevNull> It accels at tasks such as forwarding traffic and passing static files[15:57:55] <PipeItToDevNull> It is a middle man[15:57:57] <Joseph> ok, sweet, getting LibreOffice fresh on this netbook[15:58:01] <fulcan> Your PCI bus typically takes over a lot of secondary processing[15:58:11] <ShayBox> but.... outperformed by a 266MHz gameconsole...[15:58:30] <fulcan> like a GPU will make a puter run faster than a shitty/worst onboard[15:59:17] <ShayBox> anyone ever try a wii bal board on your computer?[16:00:07] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[16:00:55] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-84-118-19-76.unity-media.net> has joined #manjaro[16:01:41] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[16:02:13] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:04:14] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-84-118-19-76.unity-media.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:04:32] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[16:05:14] *** manots <manots!~computer_@198.209.13.246> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:05:45] <fulcan> still updating....[16:06:10] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[16:06:10] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[16:06:10] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[16:07:15] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:08:53] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[16:08:55] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has left #manjaro[16:09:25] <ShayBox> guess what im not doing[16:09:29] *** Comradin <Comradin!d5b69a9d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.182.154.157> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[16:09:31] <ShayBox> updating[16:10:17] *** hedgie <hedgie!~hedgie@2602:306:3144:1e10:652d:b973:841:f5> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[16:14:24] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[16:14:39] <ShayBox> anyone have any good linux youtubers like quidsup or gotbletu?[16:17:10] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:18:06] *** hedgie <hedgie!~hedgie@2602:306:3144:1e10:652d:b973:841:f5> has joined #manjaro[16:18:31] *** tunage <tunage!~tunage@2602:306:cf9e:3520:8194:cad6:4a1c:6601> has joined #manjaro[16:20:05] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[16:20:55] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[16:21:13] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ip-90-186-3-129.web.vodafone.de> has joined #manjaro[16:23:22] *** ds0nt <ds0nt!~manjaro-i@p8048-ipbfp4201osakakita.osaka.ocn.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:23:25] *** badbodh is now known as bedbudh[16:25:45] <Celmor> ShayBox, depends on what you want, I like to whatch youtube.com/BryanLunduke and youtube.com/channel/UCOWcZ6Wicl-1N34H0zZe38w (Level1Linux)[16:26:22] <Celmor> got the GPU passthrough idea and first pointers from latter[16:26:32] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@190.113.128.142> has joined #manjaro[16:26:55] *** fvs <fvs!~freevryhe@dhcp-146-6-194-190.ctr.utexas.edu> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[16:27:38] *** pancutan <pancutan!~Sergio@190.113.128.142> has joined #manjaro[16:31:14] *** tunage <tunage!~tunage@2602:306:cf9e:3520:8194:cad6:4a1c:6601> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:31:16] <hedgie> is there any reason why on any kernel other than the 4.4.x I lose networking (wired) and sound through a PCI card? I have been told before that drivers should be already installed with the others, but either something is wrong with those, or wrong with the other kernels[16:31:39] *** jonathon <jonathon!~jonathonf@unaffiliated/jonathon> has quit IRC (Quit: Doing something else... or rebooting)[16:31:50] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:32:11] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[16:32:35] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:35:00] *** tunage <tunage!~tunage@2602:306:cf9e:3520:8194:cad6:4a1c:6601> has joined #manjaro[16:37:02] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@14.141.219.169> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:37:23] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has joined #manjaro[16:38:11] *** CykloTronic86 <CykloTronic86!~CykloTron@ip175-241-58-62.adsl.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:38:48] <superbia> noobish question[16:38:54] <superbia> did you reboot after you swaped a kernel[16:39:32] <ShayBox> lul[16:40:55] *** bedbudh <bedbudh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: bedbudh)[16:41:03] <Isaac> Hey, it's a long shot but anyone here that got their Creative Soundblaster Card to work with a linux x64 kernel? Gotta admit using Manjaro without sound is a turnoff[16:43:12] <ShayBox> im sure someone has, thats a popular card[16:43:45] <hedgie> yes, superbia[16:45:22] <hedgie> isaac I am using a creativelabs soundblaster recon3d as I type this. it is having issues on other kernels than the 4.4.x for me[16:45:32] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has joined #manjaro[16:47:15] <Isaac> hedgie: Using the exact same card but I have no luck so far, neither the standard nor any newer kernels seem to do the trick[16:48:56] <Isaac> I tried the often found fix of fixing the hda intel device(?) in the first position and I did manage to get some very quiet and distorted noise but nothing further[16:50:01] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[16:50:24] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[16:51:00] <hedgie> interesting[16:51:04] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:52:06] <hedgie> I did have to make sure (I'm under KDE) that the right card was used for default output, but that was about all of the config work[16:52:38] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:52:58] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[16:54:10] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@186.223.195.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:57:10] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has joined #manjaro[17:00:52] <Isaac> hedgie: Damn, sounds good for you but sadly that leaves me non the wiser, I guess I'll have to try some more kernels[17:01:08] <Isaac> oh, do you use the fron jack or the back?[17:01:21] <hedgie> back[17:02:00] <hedgie> my front jack is currently non-working due to me being too lazy to connect it[17:02:02] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!manjaro-kd@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-jmernvztsejzfucq> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:02:57] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@178.233.134.181> has joined #manjaro[17:03:57] *** root2 <root2!~root@unaffiliated/idoko> has joined #manjaro[17:03:59] <Isaac> hm alright, what exact kernel are you using?[17:04:21] <root2> I keep getting no adapters found with blueman adapter[17:04:22] <mtn> Isaac: what problem are you trying to solve?[17:04:28] <root2> Anyone fixed it before?[17:04:41] <root2> nothng on google seems to help[17:04:58] <Isaac> mtn: Getting my soundblaster recon 3d to work[17:05:09] <mtn> Isaac: have you used pavucontrol?[17:05:27] <PipeItToDevNull> root2: Do you have UEFI and secureboot, all that good shit?[17:05:51] <Isaac> yeah pretty sure I have used that mtn[17:05:55] <PipeItToDevNull> For my adapters to be found I have to boot, power off, boot again[17:06:04] <Celmor> root2, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Blueman#No_adapters_detected[17:06:05] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/fl99FE] Blueman - ArchWiki[17:06:10] <mtn> Isaac: pretty sure? it is the first thing to check out. Check sound levels and devices/profiles in Output and Configuration tabs.[17:06:15] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has joined #manjaro[17:06:19] <mtn> Isaac: check out all combos[17:06:25] <ShayBox> fuckit, im convinced to install xfce manjaro[17:06:31] <ShayBox> kde is pissing me off[17:06:51] <Celmor> I originally installed manjaro kde, now replaced it with i3[17:07:02] <Celmor> wish I had installed the i3 community edition from the start[17:07:35] <ShayBox> i want to try i3 one day, but not any time soon, i still need to learn vim, and how to do taxes[17:07:43] <PipeItToDevNull> XD[17:07:48] <PipeItToDevNull> I use XFCE and i3[17:07:56] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@178.233.134.181> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:08:02] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@178.233.134.181> has joined #manjaro[17:08:15] <ShayBox> im so sorry for you[17:08:20] <ShayBox> you must hate yourself[17:08:23] <hedgie> isaac, the 4.4.41 kernel[17:08:34] <Isaac> oh you mean the default volume control thing mtn? Yeah I have tried combinations[17:08:53] <Isaac> thanks hedgie[17:08:53] <ShayBox> Pipe, whats ur desktop look like, screenie[17:08:56] <mtn> Isaac: no, not the default volume control. I mean pavucontrol[17:09:10] *** root2 <root2!~root@unaffiliated/idoko> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:09:27] <PipeItToDevNull> XFCE: http://i.imgur.com/xdFWqPb.png[17:09:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ztWNGq] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[17:09:45] <PipeItToDevNull> i3: http://i.imgur.com/HACdHze.png[17:09:46] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/IXMYrD] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[17:09:52] <ShayBox> that mac theme...[17:10:06] <PipeItToDevNull> I wanted a light theme and it worked well[17:10:16] <ShayBox> never been a fan of those icon sets, more of a maveric guy[17:10:22] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[17:10:30] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[17:11:13] <ShayBox> im gonna need help from irc to setup xfce when its installed[17:11:30] <PipeItToDevNull> I also run a darker XFCE setup: http://i.imgur.com/5tsTvb0.png[17:11:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/w9ojSw] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[17:11:36] <Isaac> Huh looks alike but then again I'll check it again mtn[17:11:40] <ShayBox> now THATS good[17:11:45] <mtn> Isaac: hope it helps[17:11:56] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@186.223.195.141> has joined #manjaro[17:12:12] <Isaac> thanks and so do I lol[17:12:32] <PipeItToDevNull> ShayBox: If I am around I would be glad to help, you can message me on reddit at the same /u/ as well[17:13:29] <ShayBox> im going to install it rn, i'll be back in like an hour[17:14:50] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:14:51] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:16:10] *** shaytheg <shaytheg!86e4c8a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.134.228.200.162> has joined #manjaro[17:16:18] <shaytheg> ok, on xfce live boot[17:17:17] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has joined #manjaro[17:20:03] *** rumflump <rumflump!~weechat@unaffiliated/olscumpy> has quit IRC (Quit: rumflump)[17:23:30] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@178.233.134.181> has joined #manjaro[17:23:32] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@178.233.134.181> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:23:51] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has joined #manjaro[17:25:00] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:25:52] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[17:26:29] *** rumflump <rumflump!~weechat@unaffiliated/olscumpy> has joined #manjaro[17:28:07] *** anonyth <anonyth!~manjaro-k@c-24-21-113-228.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:28:28] *** anonyth <anonyth!~manjaro-k@c-24-21-113-228.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[17:29:06] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[17:34:10] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@dhcp-19-19.cs.uit.no> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[17:34:27] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[17:34:34] *** Lukimya <Lukimya!~pc@cable-roi-50ddf8-101.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[17:34:34] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Lukimya[17:34:48] <superbia> jeannieeeeee[17:35:12] <israuor> good eaving everybody..[17:35:20] <israuor> manjaro 16.10.3 comes with which kernel ?[17:35:22] <superbia> evening to india[17:35:24] <israuor> 4.8 already ?[17:35:27] <Celmor> evening[17:37:25] *** crazyfox <crazyfox!~redrover@24-212-180-23.cable.teksavvy.com> has joined #manjaro[17:37:44] *** shaytheg <shaytheg!86e4c8a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.134.228.200.162> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:37:52] <tunage> how do I get rid of this endless list of 404 errors when trying to search pacman? https://bpaste.net/show/1c262e0a9818[17:37:53] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/N3vO2D] show at bpaste[17:38:11] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.173.188> has joined #manjaro[17:39:25] <israuor> ??[17:39:54] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[17:40:53] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!86e4c8a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.134.228.200.162> has joined #manjaro[17:41:08] <Celmor> tunage, # pacman-mirrors -g[17:41:22] <ShayBox> alright, i have xfce installed. all i see is the wallpaper, some icons and a black white rectangle called a "panel1"[17:41:31] <ShayBox> and the browser for irc[17:43:10] <tunage> Celmor TY![17:43:17] *** omarramo <omarramo!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[17:43:35] <Celmor> np[17:44:08] <tunage> dang, same endless list of 404 errors after running 'pacman -Fy htop'...?[17:44:50] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@178.233.134.181> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:45:02] *** crazyfox <crazyfox!~redrover@24-212-180-23.cable.teksavvy.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:48:16] <Celmor> manjaro databases don't support that file database[17:48:16] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@PC-SD4160-578.ubmi.feec.vutbr.cz> has joined #manjaro[17:48:46] <Celmor> use pacman -Ss if you want to search something or pkgfile if you have to search for files[17:49:28] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as manjaro-kde5__[17:50:05] *** anonyth <anonyth!~manjaro-k@c-24-21-113-228.hsd1.or.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:50:38] <tunage> Celmor Thank you! I'm sort of a n00b with pacman. -Ss to search and -S to install. I get it. A little weird, but its all good![17:50:59] <ShayBox> wow xfce is cool...[17:51:43] <Celmor> maybe have a look at its database, it makes sence if you see the other options (-S to sync, additional s to search, -Q for local, additional s to search local...)[17:53:23] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[17:54:47] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:55:02] <tunage> this is my first ride really on pure xfce. My favorite is raspian, with that 1980s 386 look and feel to it. It takes a bulldozer to knock it offline. I'm very please with xfce thus far.... :)[17:55:53] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[17:56:21] <ShayBox> ehh, i'm kinda hating it so far, but i need to get a good theme[17:57:17] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:57:31] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@x590c0aba.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[17:58:32] <PipeItToDevNull> What do you dislike ShayBox[17:59:05] <ShayBox> the look and that i cant press the Windows button to open the menu, but i suspect i can fix that[17:59:22] <ShayBox> im looking at themes right now, numix hello looks cool[17:59:25] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[17:59:39] <PipeItToDevNull> How did you install it? The whiskermenu plugin is the menu I use, and a brief google yields the keyboad binding for it[18:00:14] *** Thames <Thames!~Thames199@x590c0aba.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[18:00:19] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[18:00:21] <ShayBox> i was a dumbass and selected empty panel on first start, so i had to make my own panel[18:00:28] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[18:00:30] *** Thames <Thames!~Thames199@x590c0aba.dyn.telefonica.de> has left #manjaro[18:00:32] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@x590c0aba.dyn.telefonica.de> has left #manjaro[18:00:35] <tunage> I adore the fact that it doesn't do fancy crap. If a smooth transition window is going to lock up my system, I really don't need it. I only need to see whats behind the blooming thing.[18:00:43] *** Thames <Thames!~Thames199@x590c0aba.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[18:00:51] <ShayBox> i need fancy animations[18:01:10] <ShayBox> i have a powerful computer and i want to show it , i used to use compiz on unity, was terrable[18:01:19] <tunage> not me. the more primative, the more stable. I don't want the extra[18:01:25] <ShayBox> CCSM[18:01:41] *** Thames <Thames!~Thames199@x590c0aba.dyn.telefonica.de> has left #manjaro[18:01:45] *** Thames_ <Thames_!~Thames@x590c0aba.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[18:01:56] *** Thames_ <Thames_!~Thames@x590c0aba.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:01:59] <tunage> every layer you add, is another instability[18:02:01] <PipeItToDevNull> ShayBox: Run KDE for fancier[18:02:04] *** Thames_ <Thames_!~Thames@x590c0aba.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[18:02:07] <tunage> or secuity leak[18:02:12] <tunage> security[18:02:15] <ShayBox> really...[18:02:20] <ShayBox> really Pipeit...[18:02:24] <PipeItToDevNull> I run XFCE because it is light AF (256MB of RAM at idle) and very customizable[18:02:39] <ShayBox> you couldnt have told me that before i just nuked me kde install[18:02:56] <PipeItToDevNull> There is no need to nuke installs, you can install as many DE's as you want[18:03:13] <PipeItToDevNull> ALso, use a seperate /home[18:03:26] *** Thames_ <Thames_!~Thames@x590c0aba.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:03:32] <tunage> PipeItToDevNull I have 8 gigs. which is barely enough for the bloated junk today.[18:04:50] <PipeItToDevNull> my install XFCE and i3 is 4.9GB[18:04:57] <tunage> ShayBox the great thing about a package manager is that nuking and unnuking are both pretty easy.[18:05:26] <Celmor> if you tell it to not delete your configs...[18:05:27] <ShayBox> this theme website is asking what program to open the install button with, what do i use[18:06:00] <tunage> does pacman have a dev-eccentials?[18:06:11] <tunage> all the dev packages in one?[18:06:31] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@PC-SD4160-578.ubmi.feec.vutbr.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:07:23] *** jsuse <jsuse!~jsuse@jsuse.pw> has joined #manjaro[18:09:49] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:10:15] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@120.188.35.58> has joined #manjaro[18:11:20] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@wsip-70-163-1-26.dc.dc.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[18:11:32] <ShayBox> wb | /dev/null[18:12:56] *** jsuse <jsuse!~jsuse@jsuse.pw> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:13:37] *** jsuse <jsuse!~jsuse@jsuse.pw> has joined #manjaro[18:13:43] <PipeItToDevNull> Yeah, timed out[18:15:07] <PipeItToDevNull> Did I miss anything?[18:15:09] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@194.108.3.14> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:15:14] <ShayBox> not much[18:15:42] <ShayBox> fucked up midori by selecting the wrong program for xdg:// links[18:15:47] <PipeItToDevNull> XD[18:16:59] <ShayBox> so i need a good dark theme thats not round edged[18:17:26] <PipeItToDevNull> For XFCE that is going to be a XFWM theme, Try Axe[18:17:41] <ShayBox> XFWM? XFWindowManager?[18:17:44] <PipeItToDevNull> Yeah[18:17:50] <ShayBox> whats XF?[18:17:55] *** ateixeira-brazil <ateixeira-brazil!bf1dd761@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.191.29.215.97> has joined #manjaro[18:18:02] <PipeItToDevNull> XFCE, the WM is called XFWM[18:18:09] <ShayBox> ah, i guess...[18:18:10] <PipeItToDevNull> A GTK theme does not control the Window[18:19:03] <PipeItToDevNull> Also check out "Rele"[18:19:14] *** spencer <spencer!~spencer@75-166-196-116.hlrn.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[18:19:41] <ShayBox> thats one i was looking at, looks good. and the other is Numix Hello, because i like the numix icon pack, always used it[18:20:22] <PipeItToDevNull> I love the accent colour used by Vertex-Maia too much to use another color scheme[18:20:40] <ShayBox> i was using that, i hate it. too round, reminds me of unity[18:20:48] <ShayBox> well im using it right now[18:21:02] <PipeItToDevNull> You can use a different XFWM, the GTK theme is seperate from the Window[18:21:13] <ShayBox> colors are good, looks like Maia Black[18:21:18] <ShayBox> Dark*[18:21:32] <Joseph> how are new releases of Midori?[18:21:37] <ShayBox> confusing... but ok[18:21:39] *** ateixeira-brazil <ateixeira-brazil!bf1dd761@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.191.29.215.97> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:21:40] <Joseph> i know older stuff got some flack for being buggy.[18:21:43] <Joseph> Has it improved?[18:21:47] <ShayBox> i've never used midoir[18:21:52] <ShayBox> ori*[18:22:02] <ShayBox> besides this one time because it came stock[18:22:24] <ShayBox> seems good, not as good as chromium or firefox[18:22:40] <Joseph> I see[18:22:44] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@93-82-25-12.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[18:23:52] *** Infamous <Infamous!znc@185.38.14.119> has joined #manjaro[18:24:09] <ShayBox> also whats this nautilis looking file manager...[18:24:16] <ShayBox> so i can remov eit[18:24:18] <PipeItToDevNull> It is Nemo[18:24:23] <PipeItToDevNull> SOrry, Thunar[18:24:35] <PipeItToDevNull> Nemo is Cinnamon, Thunar is XFCE[18:24:50] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[18:24:59] <PipeItToDevNull> Ivery much enjoy thunar, it is a small package and works well[18:24:59] <Joseph> a lot of animal names.[18:25:04] <Joseph> in the FOSS world.[18:25:11] <PipeItToDevNull> That is a Thunar?[18:25:25] <superbia> is joseph american name?[18:25:28] <Joseph> Nemo (the fish), nautilus, Iceweasel, Thundercat[18:25:32] <ShayBox> hey,[18:25:36] <PipeItToDevNull> Ah, yes[18:25:37] <ShayBox> dev null[18:25:42] <Joseph> superbia: it's a common name for males in the English speaking world, yeah[18:25:48] <Joseph> (not just America)[18:25:51] <ShayBox> photon-qt5-gstreamer or -vlc[18:26:08] <superbia> Joseph: because here its jozef[18:26:10] <superbia> with an F[18:26:17] <PipeItToDevNull> For media? I have smplayer installed[18:26:20] <Joseph> yeah, I heard that in some Eastern European languages[18:26:27] <ShayBox> no, its asking what audio backend do i want[18:26:27] <superbia> like germany[18:26:31] <Joseph> ah I see[18:26:35] <PipeItToDevNull> But VLC seems to be the defacto standard[18:26:44] <PipeItToDevNull> I am unsure ShayBox[18:26:47] <superbia> theoretically only half of germany is western europe[18:27:00] <Joseph> VLC is good but perhaps a bit too bloated for older computers, it's a fine program though[18:27:12] <superbia> vlc is never too blaoted for old computers[18:27:18] <Joseph> and the way it handles videos is a bit odd[18:27:38] <Joseph> Like, instead of going full screen, if the video is larger than the screen, it extends it beyond the screen[18:27:43] <Joseph> which is a bit annoying[18:27:48] <ShayBox> ^[18:27:51] <superbia> never had that problem[18:28:01] <ShayBox> wait...[18:28:11] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:28:11] <ShayBox> xfdesktop REQUIRES thunar...[18:28:18] <PipeItToDevNull> ?[18:28:20] <PipeItToDevNull> Sec[18:28:22] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@eee247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[18:28:31] <ShayBox> i cant uninstall it...[18:28:39] <PipeItToDevNull> Yep, just check[18:28:51] <ShayBox> fuuuuuuuuuuuck[18:29:08] <Joseph> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239973[18:29:09] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/wGIPbI] [SOLVED] Xubuntu: Removing Thunar Removes "xubuntu-desktop"[18:29:09] <PipeItToDevNull> It is very small though, 5.6MB[18:29:11] <Joseph> that seems to be the case[18:29:15] <PipeItToDevNull> What is your issue with it ShayBox[18:29:21] <Joseph> if you try to uninstall it, it will try and wipe the whole DE[18:29:22] <Joseph> lol[18:29:39] <ShayBox> its bad, like nautilis[18:29:42] <ShayBox> the new nautilis, not the old one[18:29:46] <Joseph> what?[18:29:49] <PipeItToDevNull> How?[18:29:53] <PipeItToDevNull> It is amazing[18:30:01] <Joseph> these file managers are all fine ... it's not like they're fundamentally different[18:30:02] *** jsuse <jsuse!~jsuse@jsuse.pw> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:30:03] <Joseph> you browse files with it[18:30:08] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@120.188.35.58> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:30:10] <Joseph> open files, copy, cut, delete[18:30:13] <Joseph> it's all 95% the same.[18:30:15] <ShayBox> does it have ftp browsing?[18:30:42] *** jsuse <jsuse!~jsuse@jsuse.pw> has joined #manjaro[18:30:50] <PipeItToDevNull> Yes: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Thunar[18:30:51] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/lkWZz4] Thunar - ArchWiki[18:31:14] *** Schorfi <Schorfi!~schorfi@unaffiliated/schorfi> has joined #manjaro[18:31:48] <ShayBox> ehh, guess it can stay. as long as i can install dolphin and ignore thunar[18:31:54] <PipeItToDevNull> Yep[18:32:11] <PipeItToDevNull> Remove the .desktop if you want to pretend it doesnt exist (Or hide it with menulibre)[18:32:18] <Joseph> you can, you can then configure the DE to use Dolphil as the default file manager[18:32:22] <Joseph> Dolphin*[18:33:32] <ShayBox> yep, thats done. :D[18:33:49] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@AAmiens-654-1-99-212.w92-155.abo.wanadoo.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:33:59] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:fd18:efe0:1ff:8a6b> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:34:12] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:c471:4c0:4d8f:a1de> has joined #manjaro[18:34:20] <d42> i like dolphin for integrated terminal :^)[18:34:29] <ShayBox> same[18:34:45] <Celmor> if it where just a better terminal...[18:35:01] <Joseph> what I do for that is, have the desktop provide a drop-down terminal with the touch of a button[18:35:05] <ShayBox> i dont use it often, but i like having everything available[18:35:23] <PipeItToDevNull> XFCE4-Terminal supports this, which I love, no need for guake[18:35:52] <ShayBox> i use yakuake[18:35:53] <d42> Joseph: it follows the directory you're currently in, so it's a tiny bit less hassle ,_,[18:36:02] <Joseph> d42: ah I see[18:36:10] <PipeItToDevNull> Right click > Open Terminal Here[18:36:20] <Joseph> I can see why that'd be convenient[18:36:28] <Joseph> it provides a very tight combined GUI and CLI[18:37:16] <ShayBox> brb[18:37:19] <PipeItToDevNull> Ok, see yall[18:37:31] <superbia> PipeItToDevNull: hi homie[18:37:33] <ShayBox> how do i close midori[18:37:37] <PipeItToDevNull> ShayBox: if you have Q's you want to ask of me hit me up on reddit[18:37:38] <ShayBox> theres no close button[18:37:42] <PipeItToDevNull> same /u/[18:37:56] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@wsip-70-163-1-26.dc.dc.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[18:38:09] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!86e4c8a2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.134.228.200.162> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[18:38:53] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has joined #manjaro[18:38:58] <ShayBox> back[18:39:01] <ShayBox> now on hexchat[18:39:23] <Joseph> a fine GUI client[18:39:32] <Joseph> though friends of mine are partial to irssi and Weechat[18:39:39] <ShayBox> Weebchat :>[18:40:02] <superbia> quaselz[18:40:28] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ip-90-186-3-129.web.vodafone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:42:38] *** jsuse <jsuse!~jsuse@jsuse.pw> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:44:59] <ShayBox> someone help[18:45:20] <ShayBox> all xdg-open links open appearence editor, not xdgurl[18:49:26] <superbia> what desktop environment[18:50:05] <ShayBox> xdfe[18:50:10] <ShayBox> xfce*[18:53:51] <superbia> sadface[18:55:51] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa294.e3.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[18:58:36] <ShayBox> at this point i might switch to i3[18:58:48] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[18:58:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[18:59:36] *** 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I've got Manjaro installed in a VM and it seems very nice. I'm an Arch user who's fed up with updates screwing up X. Is Manjaro any more stale than Arch in that regard?[19:33:33] *** negen <negen!~negen@46.166.190.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[19:34:19] <Strit_Laptop> Manjaro usually tests updates from Arch, before adding them to the repo.[19:34:50] <Joseph> manjaro-web|6714: "stale" or "stable"?[19:35:13] <manjaro-web|6714> Stable....sorry[19:35:29] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[19:36:37] *** pancutan <pancutan!~Sergio@190.113.128.142> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[19:36:38] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@190.113.128.142> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[19:37:03] <Celmor> but, linx 4.9 is still in "testing" for arch[19:37:20] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.160.22> has joined #manjaro[19:37:28] <Strit_Laptop> Kernels are a different story. We get kernels directly from kernel.org.[19:37:41] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:37:43] <manjaro-web|6714> So have any of you not been able to start X as a result of an upgrade?[19:38:21] <Strit_Laptop> It's usually because of gpu drivers. You can't fix everything, when there are not many testing everything. :)[19:38:30] <Strit_Laptop> Which is why we have unstable and testing branches.[19:38:55] <Celmor> I was unable to mount my zfs filesystems as a result of a kernel update (because the new kernel removed a feature that was enabled for that specific filesystem)[19:39:08] <Celmor> was stuck on linux 4.4 for quite a while because of this[19:39:10] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!manjaro-kd@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-gmuxronjumazmyfs> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:39:57] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-074-146-005.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[19:39:58] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-075-091-242.088.075.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:40:53] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[19:40:58] <manjaro-web|6714> Clemor, how do you like ZFS? I'm playing with btrfs and it seems convoluted.[19:41:23] <Celmor> definately better than btrfs[19:41:44] <Celmor> further in development, good support...[19:42:24] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[19:42:28] *** rumflump <rumflump!~weechat@unaffiliated/olscumpy> has quit IRC (Quit: rumflump)[19:42:37] <Celmor> had aformentioned problem because "mand" (mount option) support was apparently removed in newer kernels[19:43:05] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~lada@ip-94-113-99-113.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[19:43:15] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~lada@ip-94-113-99-113.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:43:46] <manjaro-web|6714> Can you downgrade packages in Manjaro the same way you do it in Arch?[19:44:42] <Strit_Laptop> As long as you don't use the downgrade software to do it. You can use pacman -U like in Arch.[19:44:43] <Celmor> downgrading linux kernels is def. easier[19:45:05] <Celmor> you can have multiple kernels installed no problem[19:45:09] *** glsmaxx <glsmaxx!~glsmaxx@66-38-102-195.pool.dsl.nctc.com> has joined #manjaro[19:47:13] <manjaro-web|6714> So pacman works the same, just with different repros?[19:47:35] <Strit_Laptop> jep[19:48:27] <manjaro-web|6714> Cool. I'll have to put Manjaro on bare metal.[19:48:41] <Celmor> only thijng, pacman -F doesn't work as manjaro repos don't support these file databases[19:48:43] <Strit_Laptop> It's at least a try worth. :)[19:48:54] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@145.130.236.170> has joined #manjaro[19:49:13] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@145.130.236.170> has left #manjaro[19:50:25] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@dslb-094-223-174-105.094.223.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[19:50:38] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-074-146-005.088.074.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[19:51:40] <manjaro-web|6714> Later. Thanks for the info.[19:51:40] <superbia> hi Strit_Laptop[19:51:47] <Strit_Laptop> superbia: hi[19:51:51] *** manjaro-web|6714 <manjaro-web|6714!62b0b6e8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.98.176.182.232> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:51:52] <Celmor> np[19:52:27] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has joined #manjaro[19:52:34] <superbia> how are you going strit[19:52:41] <Strit_Laptop> on my legs. :)[19:53:12] <Manj-1611-Lxqt> i wonder why on the "current" lxqt release from november there is lxterminal an pcmanfm instead of lxqterminal and pcmanfm-qt[19:53:12] <superbia> Strit_Laptop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y6Nxp0t9G8[19:53:13] *** GeekK <GeekK!~opera@145.130.236.170> has joined #manjaro[19:53:13] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ftUx5G] Melbournia - Chardy & Timmy Trumpet (Will Sparks edit) EXTENDED - YouTube[19:53:15] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[19:53:39] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@2a01:e35:8ae7:43b0:c9c7:2759:5c15:9667> has joined #manjaro[19:53:49] <Strit_Laptop> Manj-1611-Lxqt: ask the maintainer: :)[19:54:04] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@2a01:e35:8ae7:43b0:c9c7:2759:5c15:9667> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:54:06] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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seconds)[20:51:36] <mike-zal> superbia: good night then[20:51:48] <superbia> mike-zal: w8[20:51:52] <superbia> im eting[20:51:56] <superbia> cant type[20:52:16] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@dsl-hkibrasgw3-50dfd2-6.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:52:21] *** ShayBox <ShayBox!~ShayBox@cblmdm134-228-200-162.buckeyecom.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:52:22] <mike-zal> ach, I thought you said "nacht" as a shotcut from "guten nacht"[20:53:07] *** BitManiac <BitManiac!~BitManiac@209-6-157-250.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com> has joined #manjaro[20:53:56] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@ip-255.net-89-3-62.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #manjaro[20:54:11] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@186.223.195.141> has joined #manjaro[20:54:16] *** manjaro-web|7990 <manjaro-web|7990!b3217e28@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.179.33.126.40> has joined #manjaro[20:54:23] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@186.223.195.141> has quit IRC 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install pepper flash or something like that. it works with chrome, opera and vivaldi[21:02:48] <mike-zal> manjaro-kde5-: firefox on manjaro comes with flash already[21:03:32] <Celmor> There's "Warn me when closing multiple tabs" and "Show my windows and tabs from last time" on the first page of the settings[21:03:44] <Celmor> in firefox[21:03:47] <manjaro-kde5-> yes[21:04:06] <manjaro-kde5-> no[21:04:10] <mike-zal> manjaro-kde5-: as to ff, just set it in options "remeber my last tabs/session" instead "use home page". not sure how it is really named in english.[21:04:26] <manjaro-kde5-> wait[21:05:39] <manjaro-kde5-> no i do not have that[21:05:57] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[21:06:47] <manjaro-kde5-> i have finnish because i am from finland but i have looked all settings and things but there are no such thing[21:06:59] <manjaro-kde5-> in windows there are[21:07:04] <manjaro-kde5-> win 10[21:07:04] <Celmor> https://puu.sh/tCS45/1032e16cd4.png[21:07:06] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/x7wjUS] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[21:07:08] <mike-zal> there is, maybe I explained it badly[21:07:26] <mike-zal> firefox on linux is the same as on windowds[21:07:56] <mike-zal> yeah, Celmor shows the correct setting. it's in all systems[21:08:52] <manjaro-kde5-> found it[21:09:02] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:e814:d9b7:5db8:a843> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:09:07] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@eee247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:09:41] <manjaro-kde5-> thanks it is word to word to you from finland "use open pages", i fees so stupid now[21:10:01] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@host86-191-186-58.range86-191.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[21:10:42] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[21:10:57] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:11:09] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[21:11:12] <manjaro-kde5-> what is this puush?[21:12:06] <Celmor> an upload service, I can upload images there like on imgur, but also text, video or other files[21:12:11] <Celmor> and delete them selectively[21:12:22] <manjaro-kde5-> link?[21:12:26] <Celmor> https://puush.me[21:12:29] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Ns51RE] puush / home[21:12:46] <manjaro-kde5-> went to favorites[21:13:11] <Celmor> I use puush4linux from the AUR[21:13:32] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@76.78.226.60> has joined #manjaro[21:13:39] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has joined #manjaro[21:13:44] <Celmor> spectacle to make screenshots -> export -> puush[21:15:38] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@58-7-128-75.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:15:40] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has joined #manjaro[21:15:40] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:15:59] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[21:16:10] <manjaro-kde5-> really like manjaro, couple daysago win 10 pro startet publishing my pics on internet such as my bank account information and family pics to the all over internet[21:16:40] <manjaro-kde5-> that's not cool[21:17:17] <rhg135> yay for microsoft sw[21:17:43] <mike-zal> Celmor: this puush looks interesting. I dislike how much trouble there is to create screens and make links of them[21:17:50] <manjaro-kde5-> wanna hear finnish music :D finnish pop http://nettiradio.fi/suomipop[21:17:51] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ZdRn7j] Radio Suomipop | nettiradio.fi[21:18:11] <mike-zal> Celmor: what is the difference between puush-qt and puush4linux?[21:18:57] <Celmor> I suppose puush-qt uses a GUI, puush4linux is CLI only[21:18:57] *** BitManiac <BitManiac!~BitManiac@209-6-157-250.c3-0.sbo-ubr1.sbo.ma.cable.rcn.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:19:25] <manjaro-kde5-> i know new next innovation for microsoft, if you don't touch your mouse every 15min we will restart your computer just for fun edition 2017[21:19:29] <mike-zal> manjaro-kde5-: really? I can't believe win10 can accidentally publish personal photos all over the web. it has privacy issues but not as huge as this one...[21:19:46] <Celmor> you can also select an area to make a screenshot, upload it and have the link in your clipboard with one command with puush4linux[21:20:22] <mike-zal> Celmor: in plasma you can easily choose window, area or other stuff for screenshot. I just need to make quickly links out of it[21:21:55] <manjaro-kde5-> im not good in command lines whole life wasted with windows[21:22:40] <manjaro-kde5-> do i need program to use puush[21:23:08] <Celmor> you need a client[21:23:22] <manjaro-kde5-> like browser?[21:23:38] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyymt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:23:41] <mike-zal> manjaro-kde5-: I fount puush on AUR[21:23:51] <mike-zal> so you can use that or qt version[21:24:12] <manjaro-kde5-> i have just octopi[21:24:38] <Celmor> https://puu.sh/tCTmv/668dfed134[21:24:39] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/KGArhK] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)[21:24:51] <Celmor> octopi can search the AUR[21:25:09] <Celmor> you can also use yaourt which you then should have too[21:25:21] <Celmor> "yaourt -S puush4linux" to install[21:25:50] <Celmor> my last link shows what it can (options)[21:26:39] <manjaro-kde5-> not foud[21:26:43] <manjaro-kde5-> nd[21:27:42] <Celmor> pacaur then[21:27:58] <Celmor> pacaur -s puush4linux[21:28:52] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyymt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has joined #manjaro[21:29:51] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyymt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:29:59] *** infinital <infinital!uid144856@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xozskjdfqtfzvlgc> has joined #manjaro[21:30:22] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@186.223.195.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[21:32:46] <manjaro-kde5-> not found.. im drunk its 10:32 pm in finland maybe drunk me not doing it right :D[21:32:54] <mike-zal> manjaro-kde5-: click on alien face on octopi. it switches for aur searches[21:33:28] <mike-zal> manjaro-kde5-: so once again, click alien face and run the search again[21:33:55] <Celmor> https://puu.sh/tCTZo/a21c3d3b44.png[21:33:57] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/NxekHh] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[21:36:34] <manjaro-kde5-> what is the time in your location?[21:38:49] <Celmor> 21:38[21:39:11] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyymt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has joined #manjaro[21:39:24] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:42:45] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[21:43:58] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1EAEE3D2513C1F79FBB8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:44:15] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jvieaegbkdbkrcjf> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[21:44:31] <mike-zal> manjaro-kde5-: 21:44[21:47:49] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[21:48:24] *** z0r <z0r!8acc3d20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.204.61.32> has joined #manjaro[21:48:32] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ip-90-186-2-12.web.vodafone.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:48:34] <z0r> Hey.[21:48:50] <z0r> I'm stucking on a black screen during my instalation.[21:49:00] <z0r> "start version 231"[21:49:07] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@185-220-50-84.dyn.estpak.ee> has joined #manjaro[21:49:14] <Celmor> try regenerating your initramfs[21:49:17] <z0r> Someone else with this issue?[21:49:39] <mike-zal> Celmor: will puush-qt work without puush4linux?[21:50:30] <z0r> Regenerate my initramfs?[21:50:39] <z0r> But i'm trying to install.[21:50:44] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[21:50:58] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!manjaro-kd@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-klhiboxrzpjiujgr> has joined #manjaro[21:51:01] <z0r> The media works fine in virtualbox, when i try to install on my HD it happens.[21:52:46] <mike-zal> it may be issue with graphical drivers. VB uses some different, generic ones so it often works on VB (with bugs) but on real install it works either well or doesn't work..[21:53:10] <Celmor> most likely just independant different clients[21:53:33] <mike-zal> although I am not sure if that's the case. not sure in what installation part you see this black screen[21:53:50] <Celmor> z0r, try BIOS mode if you're trying UEFI, or vice versa[21:53:58] <mike-zal> Celmor: I installed puush-qt and see no tray[21:54:15] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[21:54:27] <Celmor> try to run it[21:54:40] <mike-zal> Celmor: had to wait a while till icon showed on start[21:55:38] <Celmor> works for me fine[21:55:52] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[21:56:34] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt3 <Manj-1611-Lxqt3!~j@48.147.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #manjaro[21:56:41] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt2 <Manj-1611-Lxqt2!~j@48.147.23.95.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:56:53] <z0r> Stucks in "A start job is running for $thing"[21:57:15] <z0r> I can't boot even in liveCD.[21:57:18] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1EFFFDBB1035B9995098.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[21:57:27] <mike-zal> Celmor: it works! very nice :D[21:57:46] <mike-zal> https://puu.sh/tCVCb/33e7b5c641.png[21:57:48] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/9pELuk] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[21:58:45] *** amatrelan <amatrelan!~amatrelan@dcdx5hyyyyyyyyyyyyymt-3.rev.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:59:02] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has joined #manjaro[21:59:06] *** superbia <superbia!~superbia@unaffiliated/superbia> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[21:59:08] <mike-zal> z0r: something is off, but not sure what. too tired to think right now. gpu issue, maybe network issue? this usually means hardware issue[21:59:35] *** badbodh <badbodh!~androirc@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:59:35] <mike-zal> z0r: is live session working?[22:01:25] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1EFFFDBB1035B9995098.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:03:28] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[22:05:40] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@76.78.226.60> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:07:31] *** spencer <spencer!~spencer@75-166-196-116.hlrn.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:11:04] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@177.157.15.50> has joined #manjaro[22:12:05] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:12:23] *** Ayumu <Ayumu!bdcbbcad@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.189.203.188.173> has joined #manjaro[22:12:34] <Ayumu> Hello[22:13:16] <Celmor> hi[22:13:40] <Ayumu> need help please[22:14:59] <Ayumu> I can not install Manjaro on my PC[22:16:00] <Celmor> what's the error?[22:16:18] <Celmor> or where do you get stuck[22:16:52] *** lenwood <lenwood!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[22:17:59] <Ayumu> I give enter to Start Manjaro Linux, it goes black[22:18:29] <z0r> Same as me.[22:18:30] <Celmor> enter? when?[22:18:33] <z0r> Could be something with the iso?[22:18:43] <Ayumu> Does not start OS LIVE of Manjaro Linux[22:19:09] <mike-zal> hm... 2 cases seem suspitious[22:19:21] <Celmor> what's the last thing that it displays before it goes black[22:19:27] <mike-zal> maybe deves released some bugged iso lately?[22:19:47] <Ayumu> I do not think because I install it in my Laptop[22:19:55] <Celmor> certain isos caused me problems too, net edition always worked though[22:20:00] <mike-zal> I would suggest trying to create live usb with dd or suse image writer[22:20:25] <z0r> Have u tried to run it in virtual-box?[22:20:29] <z0r> I think it's a hardware issue.[22:20:51] <z0r> The iso is working fine here, just when i try to install it stucks in a black screen also.[22:21:05] <Ayumu> Or change to UEFI the PC[22:22:28] <manjaroi3> Ayumu, use DD like he said. but you are saying it working on a ddifferent machine. I experienced a problem with Antargos. also blank screen. hardware was the problem. Manjaro worked fine, so thats how I ended up here. If you are certain that your ISO is healthy, and the USB boots (sounds like it does), then its your hardware.[22:22:53] <Celmor> hmm, octopi seems to require a root accouint with a password, it doesn't accept my accounts password that has sudo rights[22:23:54] <manjaroi3> Ayumu, not saying it impossible. could be a BIOS setting, but i didnt get that far. I just swtiched to Manjaro, ,and It worked.[22:24:34] <z0r> I already tried CSM bios and didn't worked.[22:24:51] <Ayumu> ok I check the BIOS[22:25:39] <Ayumu> Can wait please. I Check the BIOS[22:26:53] <manjaroi3> z0r, same experience i had with Antargos. asked on their IRC, and no one knew. would be nice to have i clarified. im on a T540p, and if stuff doesnt work on a Thinkpad, then there is certainly a serious issue.[22:27:31] <z0r> I will try to solve, i'll give the feedback here, see u soon. Thanks[22:27:36] *** z0r <z0r!8acc3d20@gateway/web/freenode/ip.138.204.61.32> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[22:32:59] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[22:34:48] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:36:41] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@185-220-50-84.dyn.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[22:36:47] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@186.223.195.141> has joined #manjaro[22:37:03] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!manjaro-kd@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-klhiboxrzpjiujgr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:37:17] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!manjaro-kd@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-cnimuutwjcqviaad> has joined #manjaro[22:39:56] *** optics <optics!~optics@unaffiliated/optics> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[22:40:52] *** enkeys <enkeys!~enkeys@178.162.211.200> has joined #manjaro[22:42:45] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~king1337@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[22:44:29] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~king1337@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has joined #manjaro[22:45:06] <Ayumu> Hi[22:45:10] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC ()[22:46:02] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[22:46:11] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[22:46:15] <Celmor> hi[22:46:15] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[22:46:54] <b0n> hii[22:47:03] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.40.57.245> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:49:11] *** LyriCa <LyriCa!~aniki@ool-44c16b78.dyn.optonline.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[22:49:24] *** `Eddie <`Eddie!~eddie@mot04304.swm.uni-mannheim.de> has joined #manjaro[22:50:26] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!manjaro-kd@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-cnimuutwjcqviaad> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:51:13] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has joined #manjaro[22:51:46] <ringo> hej[22:52:10] <Ayumu> can you help ??[22:52:36] <Celmor> same issue?[23:00:18] *** molerat <molerat!~molerat@91.214.69.11> has joined #manjaro[23:02:44] <ringo> which issue ?[23:03:03] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:04:02] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@mobile-access-5d6aba-221.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[23:04:07] *** aajjbb1 <aajjbb1!~aajjbb@186.223.195.141> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:04:15] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@mobile-access-5d6aba-221.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:04:35] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.173.188> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:06:00] <Celmor> there were 2 people having the same issue, just black screen after boot of livecd[23:06:16] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:06:28] <Ayumu> i can not install Manjaro[23:07:23] <Celmor> can you boot it?[23:07:24] <mike-zal> it looks suspicious[23:07:43] <mike-zal> maybe oroginal iso is broken?[23:07:45] <Celmor> z0r at least had "start version 231" displayed before black screen[23:08:01] <Celmor> and it worked in virtual box[23:08:10] <Celmor> so probably some driver issue[23:08:34] <Celmor> Ayumu, what are your computer specs? what video card?[23:08:36] <Joseph> did you guys check the hash of the iso before putting on the boot medium?[23:08:38] <mike-zal> gpu? it's usually the culprit. either that or network.[23:08:41] <Ayumu> yes can boot[23:09:05] <Celmor> z0r had verified his checksum, he pm'ed me[23:09:05] <mike-zal> gpu and network are different in VB[23:09:14] <Joseph> Celmor: I see[23:09:23] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@eee247.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[23:09:34] <Ayumu> ammm I check BIOS UEFI[23:09:47] <Ayumu> can not install Manjaro[23:10:07] <mike-zal> Ayumu: can you boot older version of iso?[23:10:20] <mike-zal> there should be one to download[23:10:28] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAFCA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:10:50] <mike-zal> this why we would know that something may be wrong with new iso snapshot[23:11:37] <mike-zal> the good thing is, if it boots and you can install it, yout don't need to fight with newer version, just update it.[23:12:02] *** molerat <molerat!~molerat@91.214.69.11> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:12:14] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAFCA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[23:12:44] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[23:12:45] <Celmor> I'm quite excited about that new installer that's kinda forked(?) from the arch one and can install any of the editions without having to have a specific pre-made iso[23:12:53] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAFCA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:13:17] *** zapperoo_ <zapperoo_!~ZaP@66-247-200-251.setardsl.aw> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:14:26] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@2a02:8108:100:38c8::2> has joined #manjaro[23:14:28] <Ayumu> I already put the BIOS in Legacy[23:14:34] *** lenwood <lenwood!~manjaro-k@ip4d14ff0d.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:14:51] *** servolet <servolet!~manjaro-k@mobile-access-5d6aba-221.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #manjaro[23:15:23] <Ayumu> Did not stay black screen[23:15:32] <Celmor> do you see a boot loader? with entries like "non-free" or "free" just after booting[23:15:46] <Celmor> what do you mean "did not stay"[23:16:00] <manjaro-kde5-> reboot[23:16:19] <manjaro-kde5-> sorry not working here cause chat :D[23:16:51] <manjaro-kde5-> what difference of non-free and free?[23:17:22] *** deerf <deerf!~deerf@host82-63-dynamic.248-95-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:17:51] *** Trinexx <Trinexx!~jake@unaffiliated/trinexx> has joined #manjaro[23:18:29] <Ayumu> yes, what difference of non-free and free ?[23:19:46] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[23:21:34] <Celmor> different drivers[23:22:21] <manjaro-kde5-> ? what kind?[23:22:27] <Celmor> choosing "non-free" tells the system to prefer certain proprietary drivers instead of open-source ones, might help if open-source one causes problems[23:22:33] <Celmor> like nvidia vs. nouveau[23:22:51] <Ayumu> I can not[23:22:52] <manjaro-kde5-> nouveau?[23:22:53] <Celmor> you can use either for nvidia graphic cards, but nvidia often works better[23:23:12] <Celmor> nouveau is an open-source driver for nvidia graphic cards created by the community[23:23:13] <manjaro-kde5-> i have ati[23:23:23] <Celmor> just an example[23:23:54] <Celmor> Ayumu, do you see that screen where you can choose between "non-free" and "free" after starting your computer with that livecd?[23:24:08] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~king1337@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:24:28] *** enkeys <enkeys!~enkeys@178.162.211.200> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:25:06] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:25:15] *** Trinexx <Trinexx!~jake@unaffiliated/trinexx> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[23:25:54] <manjaro-kde5-> Ayumu what are you installing? linux what ?[23:26:41] <Celmor> he's tring to install manjaro[23:28:27] <manjaro-kde5-> manjaro is easy to install, i failed to boot when installed updates but then i messed up with terminal things so i thought updates fucked up but it was me[23:28:31] <manjaro-kde5-> https://www.reddit.com/r/ManjaroLinux/comments/4wc0ac/how_to_disable_mouse_acceleration/[23:28:32] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/gzdOsL] (link was unresponsive: https://www.reddit.com/r/ManjaroLinux/comments/4wc0ac/how_to_disable_mouse_acceleration/)[23:28:59] <manjaro-kde5-> tried to this meanwhile and this was what fucked it up[23:29:34] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:29:45] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@agsc251.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:30:28] <Celmor> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mouse_acceleration#Disabling_mouse_acceleration[23:30:29] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/HGtiqU] Mouse acceleration - ArchWiki[23:30:31] *** thid <thid!~thid@188.121.19.232> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:31:19] <manjaro-kde5-> when you go to manjaro usb stick thing then just start what project thing indicates calamaro or something and install[23:32:15] *** thid <thid!~thid@public-gprs394917.centertel.pl> has joined #manjaro[23:35:47] <manjaro-kde5-> If you someone want instuction how to install manjaro kde contact me i will instruct step by step[23:35:59] <manjaro-kde5-> from usb[23:37:29] *** Stuzz <Stuzz!~Stuzz@CPE-121-222-131-9.lnse1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has joined #manjaro[23:38:18] <Stuzz> Hello[23:38:35] <Celmor> hey[23:39:12] <Stuzz> I did a dumb thing and removed myself from all the groups I was initially put in to. Don't suppose y'all know what them groups where?[23:39:59] <manjaro-kde5-> don't know not in any group[23:40:14] <Stuzz> err[23:41:01] <Stuzz> Can someone just type 'groups' and paste the output here :)[23:41:11] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-152-79-171.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has joined #manjaro[23:41:53] <manjaro-kde5-> who was installing manjaro?[23:42:06] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@180.188.246.187> has joined #manjaro[23:42:17] <manjaroDeepin> hello[23:42:37] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@180.188.246.187> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:43:12] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:43:19] <manjaro-kde5-> is it bad if i have two letters and one number on password?[23:45:37] <Ayumu> gi[23:46:06] <manjaro-kde5-> gi?[23:46:06] <NanoSector> manjaro-kde5-, not bad persay, but it's weak[23:46:16] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~king1337@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has joined #manjaro[23:46:49] <manjaro-kde5-> if you mean military no just lazy[23:48:05] <manjaro-kde5-> or practical, couple of wierd marks of differed countries[23:50:25] *** Stuzz <Stuzz!~Stuzz@CPE-121-222-131-9.lnse1.woo.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:51:57] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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