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[00:11:16] <manjaroi3> as to the dotnet question in Manjaro/Arch. Omnisharp will run in visual Studio code, but the debugger in not supported. This is becuase it runs Mono, and NOT the official dotnet which is support by Ubuntu, Fedora and the other mainstream distros.
[00:12:07] <manjaroi3> Atom fails to run Omnisharp. unfortunately. So visual Studio code seems to be the best direction for now. Havent checked sublime. It might work as well.
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[00:14:32] <manjaroi3> fallback would be Monodevelop, which looks terrible, but works fine. but will Monodevelop support the official dotnet? I have used Rider at school, and that works really well now, but that was an early build, so at some point this spring It will cost some money.
[00:16:09] <manjaroi3> Short story. Arch got ditched. Running Ubuntu in virtual box might be a solution though, if debugging is needed.
[00:23:58] <PMunch_> manjaroi3, recently did a project in C# and I used VS Code
[00:24:01] <PMunch_> Worked great
[00:24:29] <PMunch_> I did get some debug capabilities but not everything
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[00:28:03] <dogue> Hello all. Is it inappropriate to ask support questions regarding the Manjaro forum here?
[00:29:00] <imnofox> it wouldn't be inappropriate, but I think few could answer
[00:30:02] <dogue> Ah. Well the issue is that I created an account before discovering that my email domain is one of the ones that blocks mail from manjaro. I'm fine using a different email, but since I never received the activation mail, I can't exactly login to change it.
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[00:31:13] <dogue> I would, however, like to keep my username. Been using Manjaro for a while but just now getting the itch to join the community, so I'm not sure the best avenue by which to get this solved.
[00:31:13] <manjaroi3> PMunch_, still here???
[00:32:07] <PMunch_> Yup
[00:32:47] <manjaroi3> PMunch_, you got debugging working in vsc on manjaro?
[00:32:57] <imnofox> dogue: could try emaling ringo or Bernhard https://manjaro.org/the-team/
[00:32:59] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/4Q661S] Team | Manjaro Linux
[00:33:13] <dogue> I'll take a look. Thanks. =)
[00:33:23] <manjaroi3> PMunch_, hmm.. P.. Munch? dansker?
[00:33:36] <manjaroi3> whois PMunch_
[00:34:00] <PMunch_> Norwegian, close enough
[00:34:05] <manjaroi3> :D
[00:34:13] <PMunch_> Yeah, I got some debugging
[00:34:25] <manjaroi3> PMunch_, can you tell me how you got it working?
[00:34:41] <manjaroi3> PMunch_, for free... since you are norwegian :D
[00:35:34] <PMunch_> Hmm, don't really remember. I can have a look at my config tomorrow :)
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[00:51:00] <Kjeldmis> hey ringo! long time! hows it going?
[00:51:04] <Kjeldmis> :)
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[01:03:01] <temp-wifirepeate> At boot time my laptop does not get a dynamic ip address from the wireless router. But if after login i do iwconfig wlan0 rate 1M && ifconfig wlan0 up && dhclient -v wlan0 i succcesfully connect to the internet. What file do i need to edit to permanently set wlan0's rate to 1M?
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[01:09:09] <Kjeldmis> temp-wifirepeate: 1M is very low, are you sure that is what you want?
[01:09:18] <temp-wifirepeate> yes
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[01:10:04] <temp-wifirepeate> Kjeldmis, now please tell me how to do it
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[01:12:15] <Kjeldmis> temp-wifirepeate: which card do you have?
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[01:13:25] <temp-wifirepeate> RTL8187 Wireless Adapter
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[01:13:42] <Kjeldmis> temp-wifirepeate: usually, if the installed driver supports it, you could specify options like this in /etc/modprobe.d/
[01:14:11] <Kjeldmis> the conf file must match the module name, which is loaded by the kernel.
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[01:14:54] <Kjeldmis> e. g. iwlwifi module must have a corresponding iwlwifi.conf file.
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[01:15:50] <Kjeldmis> If the driver doesnt support it, you can use systemd to launch a script or a service at boot which applies the commands you want.
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[01:17:16] <Kjeldmis> If you dont mind satisfying my curiosity, why do you need to set the bitrate at 1M?
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[01:45:53] <TheGoose_> So konsole is messed up because I added a ',' in the startup command after /usr/bin/fish how do i fix that?
[01:46:02] <TheGoose_> konsole just crashes immediately when i start it
[01:46:47] <dogue> Do you have any other terms installed that you can use to fix it?
[01:46:51] <TheGoose_> Yeah
[01:47:04] <TheGoose_> just not sure how to go about resetting those settings
[01:47:09] <dogue> Hmmm
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[01:47:38] <dogue> I'm not real familiar with the KDE side of things, so I'm not sure about resetting it. Could you remove the comma from the config?
[01:47:38] <TheGoose_> Found some old thread saying the konsolerc was somewhere, but that doesnt seem to be the case now
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[01:47:50] <TheGoose_> dogue: Im not sure where that config is
[01:47:53] <dogue> Ah
[01:49:24] <imnofox> should be able to edit the profile in the Konsole settings window?
[01:49:34] <TheGoose_> Yeah, but I can't get to the window
[01:49:38] <Kjeldmis> TheGoose_: I would guess its in /home/urusername/.config
[01:49:39] <TheGoose_> it crashes immediately
[01:50:03] <Kjeldmis> I dont run KDE / plasma btw.
[01:50:23] <TheGoose_> I found the konsolerc in .config
[01:50:29] <TheGoose_> but it doesnt seem to contain much
[01:51:17] <TheGoose_> Yeah I keep getting error "Could not find binary: " "/usr/bin/fish/,"
[01:51:18] <Kjeldmis> it doesnt have its own directory with settings?
[01:51:24] <imnofox> do you have other Konsole profiles?
[01:51:26] <dogue> Do you have a .kde folder inside your home dir?
[01:51:49] <TheGoose_> Yeah
[01:52:16] <imnofox> to which question are you answering?
[01:52:21] <TheGoose_> both
[01:52:26] <dogue> All my google fu points to that folder holding the config. But I can't promise it's right, because old threads.
[01:52:31] <TheGoose_> Yeah, same here
[01:52:40] <imnofox> kde5 doesnt use a ~/.kde folder
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[01:53:51] <TheGoose_> I just can't find any konsole config that contains that
[01:54:54] <TheGoose_> Well damn, I even just reinsatlled it too
[01:55:02] <TheGoose_> So the config has gotta be hiding somewhere
[01:55:28] <dogue> Perhaps this could be of use? https://forum.manjaro.org/t/konsole-settings-are-not-persistent/2471/7
[01:55:29] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/NUKTSM] Konsole settings are not persistent - Applications - Manjaro
[01:55:47] <Kjeldmis> TheGoose_: just search for it
[01:55:48] <imnofox> looks like there's useful stuff in ~/.local/share/konsole/
[01:56:10] <imnofox> thats where the profile configs are kept
[01:56:19] <imnofox> can edit the shell path
[01:57:08] <TheGoose_> Fuck yeah!
[01:57:11] <Kjeldmis> like this: grep -R "usr/bin/fish/," /
[01:57:14] <TheGoose_> thanks a bunch!
[01:57:25] <imnofox> sweet!
[01:57:36] <dogue> Woot
[01:57:37] <Kjeldmis> oh well :p
[01:57:47] <TheGoose_> Kjeldmis: I will rememver that for next issue though
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[01:58:35] <Kjeldmis> TheGoose_: grep is really nifty, that command returns all files where the string is present
[01:59:00] <TheGoose_> Yeah I'll have to get better at it. I need a good way to search for strings through CLI
[01:59:40] <TheGoose_> I get permission denied on like a million things most times and idk why
[02:00:43] <imnofox> those are just files/folders your user doesnt have permission to access
[02:00:48] <TheGoose_> So, for example, how would you return all flac files?
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[02:01:06] <Kjeldmis> TheGoose_: oh sorry, thats because there are some files you arent allowed to read. If it annoys you, just encapsulate it in su -c 'commandhere'
[02:01:09] <TheGoose_> Would $ sudo grep -R "*.flac" / worl?
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[02:01:33] <Kjeldmis> TheGoose_: no, not really
[02:01:39] <Kjeldmis> you use find for that.
[02:01:41] <TheGoose_> Yeah apparently not haha
[02:01:46] <TheGoose_> ah, okay that's what I've been using
[02:01:50] <imnofox> grep just reads the contents of files
[02:01:56] <Kjeldmis> find / -name *.flac
[02:01:56] <TheGoose_> Ah okay
[02:02:04] <TheGoose_> Yeah that's exactly what I do
[02:03:13] <Kjeldmis> you could grep the output to filter through it tho :)
[02:04:08] <Kjeldmis> like this : find / -name *.flac | grep -i "metallica"
[02:04:32] <TheGoose_> that doesnt work for me
[02:04:37] <TheGoose_> wait
[02:04:50] <Kjeldmis> huh, I probably made a typo somewhere
[02:05:11] <TheGoose_> Nah, I tested with mp3 over flac and forgot I just upgraded that folder lol
[02:05:16] <TheGoose_> It works! neat!
[02:05:34] <dogue> Isn't learning fun? =)
[02:05:47] <TheGoose_> Right?! I've been trying to get better with CLI stuff too
[02:05:59] <dogue> It's a good skill to develop.
[02:06:17] <dogue> Particularly when your system decides not to boot and drops you into a maintenance shell.
[02:06:46] <dogue> Has only happened to me once on Manjaro so far though, and that was just a manual fsck
[02:06:52] <Kjeldmis> just tested it on conf files here, it should work as advertised :)
[02:07:15] <TheGoose_> Yeah, Manjaro has been real stable for me so far
[02:07:22] <TheGoose_> only been on it about 2 months though
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[02:07:56] <TheGoose_> So if I was looking for "file.example" what would be the best was to return it's location?
[02:08:02] <TheGoose_> way*
[02:08:08] <dogue> Been about 2 years for me. I was an Archie before this. For me it's the power and simplicity, without the hassle of having to build up the UI myself
[02:08:38] <Kjeldmis> TheGoose_: find / -name "file.example"
[02:09:22] <Kjeldmis> dogue: I know right? Life is too short for pure Arch.
[02:09:39] <imnofox> I agree with dogue. I used Kubuntu for ages befor Manjaro, but Manjaro's flexibility, lightweightness, and stability all trumped Kubuntu.
[02:10:07] <Kjeldmis> I run antergOS on my Macbook Pro, and Manjaro on my desktop and my mobile workstation
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[02:10:54] <dogue> I used xubuntu for ages before moving away from the debian stuff. But non-rolling release is for scrubs. =P
[02:10:56] <Kjeldmis> pure arch doesnt give any perks anymore
[02:11:15] <Kjeldmis> it only gives you a snobby and rude community xD
[02:11:40] <dogue> Lol. They're not all bad all the time, but they can be pretty impatient with newer users.
[02:11:52] <TheGoose_> Yeah community is pretty off puttiing imo, besides that wiki
[02:11:56] <TheGoose_> damn thats a nice wiki
[02:12:06] <dogue> That's part of why I'm interested in getting involved in the community here.
[02:12:17] <Kjeldmis> the manjaro wiki sucks ass.
[02:12:20] <dogue> So far, from what I've seen, the Manjaro peeps seem pretty chill
[02:12:25] <TheGoose_> Same
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[02:12:40] <TheGoose_> Yeah Manjaro wiki blows, luckily basically everything from arch wiki works
[02:13:58] <Kjeldmis> TheGoose_: as long as you stay clear of messing with anything mhwd specific
[02:14:10] <TheGoose_> Yeah i tend to not mess with that anyway
[02:14:26] <Kjeldmis> damn you can fuck ur system up using the arch wiki to configure graphics
[02:14:39] <Kjeldmis> thats a nono
[02:15:23] <Kjeldmis> :)
[02:16:03] <Kjeldmis> Stick with MHWD and good times will be had by all
[02:17:59] <Kjeldmis> anyways, which mail client do you guys use?
[02:18:16] <dogue> claws
[02:18:30] <Kjeldmis> dogue: why do you use claws?
[02:18:31] <dogue> It's uglier than sin, but it's fast
[02:18:35] <Kjeldmis> ah
[02:18:40] <dogue> And not bloated
[02:18:53] <dogue> I tend towards minimal fluff with sufficient functionality
[02:19:24] <TheGoose_> Kjeldmis: thunderbird
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[02:19:41] <Kjeldmis> TheGoose_: why T-bird?
[02:20:01] <TheGoose_> I've used it for so long, and I can see all 5 of my accounts on one screen and easily switch between em
[02:20:41] <Kjeldmis> I see... Im thinking on switching to Nylas Mail when the new client hits Linux
[02:20:55] <TheGoose_> Never heard of it, I'll have to check it out
[02:21:13] <TheGoose_> I've been using Thudnerbird for so long it'd be hard to switch. Mozilla makes good stuff
[02:21:33] <TheGoose_> brb switching to weechat
[02:21:34] <imnofox> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/01/nylas-mail-email-app-introduces-free
[02:21:36] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jL12z6] Nylas Mail Client Is Now Free To Use (Again) - OMG! Ubuntu!
[02:21:53] <Kjeldmis> imnofox: y, Im waiting for the Linux release
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[02:22:09] <TheGoose1> I get a thing that makes KDE tile and its so nice
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[02:23:56] <Kjeldmis> imnofox: I used to run my own Nylas Server, but it hasnt worked properly for a week or so.
[02:24:25] <Kjeldmis> Probably because they're making the switch to Nylas Mail.
[02:24:33] <imnofox> ah neat
[02:24:38] <Joseph> so when the display of my Samsung N150 sleeps, it doesn't come back with the lock screen
[02:24:48] <Joseph> how would I go about debugging this?
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[02:25:14] <Joseph> I'm on ManjaroLinux "Fringilla" 16.10.3
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[02:25:45] <TheGoose1> That reminded me that mine no longer says "Fringilla"
[02:25:51] <imnofox> xfce or kde?
[02:25:54] <Joseph> Xfce
[02:25:56] <TheGoose1> It just says Manjaro Linux x86_64
[02:25:58] <Kjeldmis> Joseph: give us a little more info on what it does specifically, and give us ur hardware specs aswell
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[02:29:00] <Joseph> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ManjaroLinux "Fringilla" 16.10.3 • CPU: Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N450 @ 1.66GHz (1000MHz) • Memory: Physical: 1.9 GiB Total (1.6 GiB Free) Swap: 4.2 GiB Total (4.2 GiB Free) • Storage: 15.0 GB / 153.7 GB (138.7 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx DMI Bridge
[02:29:05] <Joseph> ^ specs
[02:29:39] <Joseph> Basically, I've set up the power settings to have the display sleep after 5 minutes, but it never wakes up after that
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[02:30:00] <Kjeldmis> so, the screen doesnt turn on ?
[02:30:02] <Joseph> And what's puzzling is that if I lock it explicitly, display seems to sleep but it wakes up fine
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[02:30:40] <Kjeldmis> Joseph: suspend / resume is different from turning the screen off..
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[02:31:08] <Joseph> hm, let me investigate more.
[02:33:34] <Joseph> Kjeldmis: no, the system is set to never hibernate or suspend
[02:34:31] <Kjeldmis> OK, so, its only if the monitor turns off by timing out that it wont come back online?
[02:34:39] <Joseph> Precisely
[02:34:51] <Kjeldmis> If you lock it manually, there is no problem?
[02:34:56] <Joseph> That's the thing o.0
[02:35:32] <Joseph> Question though ...
[02:35:45] <Joseph> What does the lock do? Does it blank the display, put it to sleep, or switch it off?
[02:35:52] <Joseph> These are all apparently three different things
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[02:37:09] <Kjeldmis> Joseph: Im not familiar with the XFCE lockscreen, although its easy to tell the difference
[02:37:16] <Joseph> Mhm? how?
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[02:37:47] <Kjeldmis> if the display is "blanked" it would still be on, there would come a dimmed light from it.
[02:38:19] <Joseph> yeah, the display is completely blank, like when the laptop is turned off.
[02:38:24] <Joseph> a pitch black color.
[02:38:29] <Kjeldmis> if the system is suspended, the fan and harddrive would be off, resulting in zero noise.
[02:38:33] <Joseph> the backlight isn't on, if that is what you mean.
[02:38:53] <Kjeldmis> Joseph: the backlight would be on if its in a "blank" state
[02:39:05] <Joseph> right.
[02:39:10] <Kjeldmis> what you describe would be the "off state"
[02:39:15] <Joseph> Right, precisely
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[02:39:29] <Joseph> but the question is, is that "sleep" display or "switched off" display?
[02:39:35] <Kjeldmis> so is the fan and harddrive humming?
[02:39:50] <Joseph> ?
[02:40:12] <Joseph> that goes without saying. Again, my issue is *only* with the display, the system never gets suspended or hibernated
[02:40:41] <Joseph> it is the display that doesn't come back, the fan and harddrive and wireless indicator are all on.
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[02:40:46] <Kjeldmis> well then it cant be in a sleep state
[02:40:52] <Joseph> I see I see
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[02:40:58] <Joseph> so it's probably switched off per se.
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[02:41:04] <Kjeldmis> y
[02:41:32] <Joseph> ok, let me try this out.
[02:41:39] <Kjeldmis> try adjusting the backlight using the Fn keys
[02:41:47] <Joseph> yeah, that works, I tried
[02:41:58] <Joseph> I mean in normal circumstances
[02:42:03] <Joseph> not when it has the fit :)
[02:42:43] <Kjeldmis> try pressing CTRL + ALT + F1 or CTRL + ALT + F2
[02:43:12] <Kjeldmis> or CTRL + ALT + ESC
[02:44:11] <Joseph> heh, you think I didn't try to get the tty1/2?
[02:44:14] <Joseph> it all fails. ._.
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[02:47:21] <negen> sometimes the issue with dnscypt is a bit troublesome
[02:47:40] <Joseph> Kjeldmis: hm, some people on Google suggest using newer kernel
[02:48:01] <negen> if a server is down or otherwise unreachable kinda makes switching servers guess work
[02:48:24] <Kjeldmis> Joseph: y I read that, I dont think its related to this
[02:48:30] <Joseph> Kjeldmis: ah
[02:49:23] <Kjeldmis> Joseph: although I did find an Arch wiki that explains an issue thats very, very similar to yours, and the hardware is a match. Although its from a different vendor.
[02:49:31] <Joseph> link?
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[02:50:00] <Kjeldmis> " if the bios has not been updated to the latest (see elsewhere on this page for how to update the bios), then the 'lid' event is broken in the sense that it always reports 'closed' and it will continue to send lid events once triggered (thus blocking out power button events). In short, if you have problems with getting acpi events to work, update your bios."
[02:50:11] <Joseph> hm.
[02:50:20] <Joseph> Guess I'll have to reflash BIOS maybe :p
[02:50:27] <Kjeldmis> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acer_Aspire_One#Suspend_on_lid.2C_shutdown_on_power_button
[02:50:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ANGxug] Acer Aspire One - ArchWiki
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[02:50:53] <negen> i am also using a old kernel 4.9.5-1 just lazy to update I am trying to find arm-r-seal
[02:51:07] <Kjeldmis> I would guess that a lock of acpid events would prevent you from turning the screen back on
[02:51:16] <Joseph> 4.9.5 is "old"?
[02:51:23] <Kjeldmis> Its worth a shot.
[02:51:32] <Joseph> that's the latest stable; the only newest one is the mainline 4.10-rc5
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[02:51:47] <negen> well 4.10 has been out for a couple days at least
[02:51:53] <Joseph> ...?
[02:52:05] <Joseph> I guess coming from CentOS and Debian, this usage of "old" seems bizarre to me
[02:52:06] <Joseph> :)
[02:52:40] <negen> ;)
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[02:54:14] <negen> the only urethane varnish that is local to me is a spar varnish which is generally used for outdoors and I believe has a longer cure time than non spar urethane varnishes
[02:54:43] <negen> my wife really wants me to get this bed finished since i built it in our living room
[02:55:20] <negen> she is ok with the danish oil finish although it is quite flat looking and does not really offer that great of protection
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[02:56:10] <negen> I do not really like the looks of polyurethane
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[02:58:20] <Joseph> bbl
[02:58:24] <Joseph> Thanks for help!
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[05:18:56] <MrCasy> wow a brand new copy of Manjaro running on my new e3
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[05:56:35] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
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[06:06:45] <MrCasy_> Hello everyone
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[06:09:59] <Dagwu10> hi* Am looking to troubleshoot the headphones connection to my laptop. Basicaly since I migrated to LInux my headphone jack connection has not been working. Am on Manjaro now and is same story. Have fiddled around with Pavu and had a glance at Gnome alsamixer but have not come up with an answer*
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[06:23:43] <Dagwu10> Any tips on how I can work this out?
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[06:25:30] <imnofox> Dagwu10: what profile do you have set in pavu
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[06:37:45] <Dagwu10> Not really sure. Generally have it setup to run a bluetooth speaker. Alot of the settings I don't really understand the finer point.
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[06:42:44] <Dagwu10> it shows GK104 HDMI audio controller / built in audio
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[06:53:18] <Dagwu10> Currently have : 'GK104 HDMI audio controller'--- Digital Stereo (HDMI) (unplugged). 'Built-in Audio' --- Digital Stereo (IEC958) Output
[06:55:03] <Dagwu10> Using UE BOOM 2 *high fidelity playback (A2DP Sink)
[06:55:50] <Dagwu10> Not sure if that helps at all* to clarify*
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[07:25:18] <Dagwu10> essentially there is no easy option I have found with current configuration- or setup as show with Pavu. No choice to select headphone option or something alike.
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[07:56:48] <newguy> hi ^_^
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[08:18:37] <sQVe> Anyone here willing to help a poor soul with a build error?
[08:18:47] <sQVe> Can't figure out whats wrong...
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[08:56:00] <thid> morning
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[09:01:07] <MrCasy> hello everyone
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[11:18:11] <cartman> hello
[11:18:37] <Jeannie> G'day
[11:18:42] <cartman> is it normal to have 'beep' for system sounds ?
[11:19:12] <cartman> no music sounds ?
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[11:19:43] <cartman> sounds for start of manjaro or close
[11:22:01] <gebruiker> yes it is linux, beeps are natural like breathing
[11:22:34] <gebruiker> you should not look in the control panel too change that
[11:23:05] <cartman> ok but it's normal on manjaro ? Have sounds on ubuntu
[11:23:10] <Jeannie> Some DEs bring sounds, others don't
[11:23:28] <gebruiker> which manjaro are you using?
[11:23:31] <gebruiker> xfce?
[11:23:44] <gebruiker> if so, xfce vanilla - as intended - has beeps
[11:23:59] <cartman> yes xfce
[11:24:18] <Jeannie> xfce is rather primitive by default
[11:24:21] <gebruiker> xfce had its last updated in 2015
[11:25:19] <cartman> xfce have many updtes
[11:25:23] <gebruiker> xubuntu has modified it a bit.... long story short you can select and/or install system sounds if you want
[11:25:32] <gebruiker> wrong
[11:25:48] <cartman> Manjaro XFCE Edition (16.10.3)
[11:25:50] <gebruiker> the manjaro itself has lots of updates but xfce not
[11:26:16] <Jeannie> Last major update was xfce 4.12
[11:26:32] <cartman> did xfce dead ?
[11:26:45] <gebruiker> no, alive, but slow development
[11:26:59] <gebruiker> google xfce roadmap
[11:27:13] <cartman> and about kde manjaro ?
[11:27:32] * Jeannie pets her Plasma5 DE
[11:27:46] <gebruiker> kde and gnome project are bot seriously understaffed
[11:28:10] <Jeannie> At least you're not in GTK hell with Plasma5
[11:28:30] <thid> deepin and openbox ftw
[11:28:54] * Jeannie facepalms
[11:29:10] <thid> xD
[11:29:50] <cartman> what is the best manjaro ?
[11:30:28] <Jeannie> The one that works best for you
[11:30:36] <cartman> manjaro gnome ? manjaro kde ?
[11:30:38] <cartman> ..
[11:30:47] <thid> manjaro deepin
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[11:30:55] <Jeannie> Deepin works?
[11:31:05] <gebruiker> cartman: https://www.slant.co/versus/12539/12540/~gnome_vs_kde
[11:31:07] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/m5ORFg] Gnome vs KDE - Slant
[11:31:12] <thid> well netinstall+deepin works flawless
[11:31:22] <thid> at least on my x131e
[11:31:43] <Jeannie> There are tons of bugs and problems reported with deepin in the manjaro forum
[11:31:59] <thid> I'm using aur package
[11:32:01] <gebruiker> cartman: https://www.slant.co/versus/1124/4160/~gnome-3_vs_kde-plasma is better
[11:32:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/64SqaZ] Gnome 3 vs KDE Plasma - Slant
[11:32:05] <Jeannie> Even worse
[11:32:18] <thid> but I had no problems so far
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[11:33:01] <cartman> gnome 3 better than kde
[11:33:38] <Jeannie> IMHO, Gnome 3 is a steaming pile of excrements that limits your productivity massively
[11:34:01] <cartman> lol
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[11:34:20] <thid> we should all just use cli+screen
[11:34:21] <Jeannie> I am dead serious with that statement
[11:34:24] <cartman> Manjaro Deepin : is it gnome or kde or other ?
[11:34:33] <thid> cartman: its deepin
[11:34:36] <gebruiker> https://www.archlinux.de/?page=FunStatistics
[11:34:38] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Pd9R8C] archlinux.de - Fun statistics
[11:34:42] <gebruiker> gnome is installed more than kde
[11:36:11] <cartman> deepin : debian
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[11:36:35] <Jeannie> No
[11:38:17] <cartman> deepin is based on Debian[1][7] and both distributions have a lot in common. Both distributions use the same software repositories. Most differences are on the desktop.
[11:39:25] <Jeannie> There is the deepin linux distribution and the deepin desktop environment, don't confuse them
[11:39:55] <cartman> ok
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[11:42:09] <cartman> i'm on lxde but i think about another manjaro. I have a T6600 cpu. My use is internet, little css (the game), and vlc, torrent, wps writer...
[11:43:07] <Jeannie> wps? Chinese closed source spyware?
[11:43:34] <cartman> wps : office
[11:43:44] <cartman> likes microsoft office 2003
[11:43:53] <Jeannie> Yes, chinese closed source spyware
[11:43:53] <NanoSector> then you'd like libreoffice
[11:43:55] <NanoSector> equally terrible
[11:43:57] <NanoSector> :x
[11:44:09] <thid> NanoSector: nah wps is abit better then libre
[11:44:14] <Jeannie> wps phone home....
[11:44:25] <NanoSector> thid: i disagree
[11:44:35] <cartman> i like the theme of wps office
[11:44:52] <NanoSector> libreoffice will get a ribbon like thing as well
[11:44:57] <thid> i like that it can handle docx without fking half of document
[11:45:05] <NanoSector> thid: no issues here
[11:45:10] <NanoSector> not a lot at least
[11:45:11] <cartman> i have works on microsoft office before so it's fast to works
[11:45:21] <Jeannie> Yes, and the chinese like that they can red your documents
[11:45:25] <Jeannie> read even
[11:45:40] <thid> u dont have much choice
[11:45:53] <cartman> +1 thid
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[11:46:10] <thid> ms office or wps office
[11:46:23] <Jeannie> None
[11:46:28] <thid> tho if u need excel then only ms :/
[11:46:31] <NanoSector> or google docs
[11:46:32] <cartman> Jeannie i don't know where you read that.. china spy
[11:46:41] <Jeannie> Look it up yourself on the web
[11:46:45] <thid> google docs are still far
[11:46:49] <Jeannie> Or anlyse the wps code
[11:46:53] <NanoSector> i trust google more than some random chinese company
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[11:46:55] <gebruiker> deafists attitude to say you only can use proprietary software
[11:46:55] <Jeannie> Opps, itS closed source, sorry
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[11:49:23] <cartman> should i stay ib lxde ?
[11:49:27] <cartman> on
[11:49:51] <gebruiker> lxqt is the replacement of lxde
[11:50:09] <Jeannie> LXQT is a wild mix of GTK and QT
[11:50:23] <cartman> sorry XFCE
[11:50:32] <gebruiker> xfce is good
[11:51:10] <Jeannie> xfce? Thats a wild mix between gtk2 and gtk3 right now
[11:52:34] <Jeannie> But I am confident that xfce will have made the full transition to GTK 3.14 until 2020
[11:53:08] <gebruiker> xfce is stable as fuck
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[11:53:49] * NanoSector installs Office 2013 in Wine
[11:54:02] * Jeannie facepalms again
[11:54:12] <Jeannie> Seems it's facepalm day today
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[11:54:16] * NanoSector doesn't care
[11:54:27] * NanoSector still installs Office 2013 in Wine
[11:54:33] <Jeannie> Indeed, careless people use ms office
[11:54:49] <NanoSector> people who have education are forced to use ms office
[11:55:01] <Jeannie> And avoid non-free graphiocs drivers....
[11:55:04] <gebruiker> great attitude
[11:55:06] * PMunch chills out with LaTeX
[11:55:35] <NanoSector> Jeannie: yes, because i appreciate nouveau's effort
[11:56:01] <NanoSector> gebruiker: mine? ikr
[11:56:11] <cartman> jeannie : french ?
[11:56:14] <Jeannie> No
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[11:56:59] <gebruiker> NanoSector: better write an letter of recommendation about the ethical considerations when using properietary software to your educationals institute
[11:57:24] <NanoSector> gebruiker: i was actually thinking about that, but then figured it wouldn't matter since everything is MS at our school
[11:57:45] <gebruiker> i did so at my univeristy and i got them at least to accept libreoffice
[11:59:33] <NanoSector> yeah our IT guy is crazed by all the 'free stuff' MS gives him
[11:59:39] <NanoSector> so no use doing it
[11:59:56] <NanoSector> if we ever have to write an essay and can choose the subject, i know what to choose though
[12:01:23] <Jeannie> It will certainly be an essay bout using free graphics drivers with limited funcioanlity due to respect for the developers, written on closed source microsoft payware
[12:01:48] <NanoSector> no i'll write it in libreoffice
[12:01:51] <NanoSector> :P
[12:02:10] <NanoSector> i only use MS Office when my document gets fucked, and that I'm just now installing it is a sign that i haven't had to use it for a long while
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[12:47:32] <rajat> could some1 help me with networkmanager
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[12:49:38] <manjaro-kde5-> I installed kde, gnome from ubuntu, arch, debian and fedora. Specfically because I was curous how they would differ and one of the things I noticed among the distrobutions was that manjaro was way more resource effecient. the used memory according would vary on both kde and gnome arround 100 - 150 mb at boot up. During applications the memory usage would still dispaly effeciency. How is this possible?
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[12:53:09] <rajat> hello???
[12:54:00] <Strit_Laptop> rajat: you didn't give us anything to go on, so we can't naswer.
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[12:56:18] <rajat> in have installed manjaro on my new laptop ..........
[12:56:42] <rajat> the problem is it is not connecting to my router which has wpa encryption
[12:56:55] <rajat> if i switch to wep or no encryption it connects
[12:57:10] <rajat> in wpa or wpa2 is keeps asking for password
[12:58:13] <rajat> it was working after first boot but stopped when i did a system update
[12:58:36] * PMunch chills out with LaTeX
[13:00:56] <Strit_Laptop> rajat: have you rebooted since?
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[13:01:54] <rajat> yes
[13:01:57] <rajat> many times
[13:02:09] <Strit_Laptop> Okay. what DE do you have installed?
[13:02:17] <rajat> xfce
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[13:02:21] <rajat> it came with it
[13:02:31] <Strit_Laptop> is gnome-keyring installed and running?
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[13:03:11] <rajat> yes gnome-keyring-d is running
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[13:05:28] <rajat> i tried using wicd but even that is not working......its saying bad passwod
[13:05:52] <rajat> but i enter same password
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[13:08:28] <manjaro-kde5> Is there an easy way to install infinality on manjaro?
[13:15:36] <rajat> ??
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[13:24:11] <manjaro-kde5> is manjaro compatiblle with aur.archlinux?
[13:24:37] <thid> yep
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[14:34:27] <georoot> There is a bug i guess in i3, in dmenu... The locale info is not set properly after initial installation. Any chance oberon is here ?
[14:35:20] <Strit_Laptop> Oberon does not use IRC as far as I know.
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[14:36:22] <georoot> Strit_Laptop: just refer me to release for i3 on git i can push a patch there :) Couldn't find the repo i think it has something to do with i3 being community release
[14:37:45] <georoot> Also not sure but the problem was in setting locale info. That might be an issue with installer and present in all distro not just i3 specifically
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[14:37:58] <Strit_Laptop> georoot: I think this is as close as I get to a git repo for manjaro's dmenu: https://github.com/manjaro/packages-community/tree/master/dmenu-manjaro
[14:38:01] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/9eCkzu] packages-community/dmenu-manjaro at master · manjaro/packages-community · GitHub
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[16:29:12] <Luan> Hi ?
[16:29:21] <Luan> i'm with a little problem
[16:29:55] <Luan> I have this error when I try to update xorg-server e xf86-input-acecad estão em conflito (X-ABI-XINPUT_VERSION). Remover xf86-input-acecad?
[16:30:05] <Luan> someone can help ?
[16:30:35] <NanoSector> Luan: remove it
[16:30:47] <NanoSector> Luan: it' s been deprecated with Xorg 1.19
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[16:42:52] <gawd> Ahoy !!
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[17:34:36] <ugurix> merhaba
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[17:57:01] <ugurix> hi
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[17:59:00] <Nico____> hello everybody
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[17:59:51] <ugurix> hello
[18:00:01] <PipeItToDevNull> Hi
[18:00:08] <ugurix> can anyone help me for a few problems?
[18:00:12] <PipeItToDevNull> Such as?
[18:00:31] <Nico____> yes, i will try
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[18:02:29] <Nico____> Do you succeed in sorting files (by name, size...) in nautilus when you make a search?
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[18:03:02] <PipeItToDevNull> Let me install it, sec
[18:03:41] <ugurix> https://thepasteb.in/p/BghPp20R49OhY
[18:03:43] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/zjvrZW] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
[18:03:55] <Nico____> thanks
[18:04:04] <ugurix> i cannt open amd catalyst
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[18:27:22] <ugurix> who is here?
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[18:32:07] <badbodh> i am, but i got no graphics card :(
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[18:32:59] <badbodh> hmm, holding on to xorg 1.17 for non-free ati driver i see
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[18:33:33] <badbodh> open catalyst in cli, paste any error
[18:33:37] <badbodh> *pastebin
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[18:37:48] <ugurix> https://thepasteb.in/p/y8h6qVK58EztO
[18:37:50] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/aFDOzc] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
[18:37:55] <ugurix> this?
[18:38:47] <badbodh> do you want to bite the bullet and upgrade, or hold on to old packages ?
[18:39:15] <badbodh> xorg 1.19 + free driver | xorg 1.17 + non-free , pick one
[18:39:36] <badbodh> ugurix, ^
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[18:42:39] <ugurix> hi
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[18:43:16] <teeneebobby> Time to record some Dying Light Enhanced Edition ftw!
[18:43:55] <badbodh> ugurix, what "hi" ? pick one.
[18:44:13] <teeneebobby> It's code word
[18:44:32] <Jeannie> Probably the super user password....
[18:44:36] <ugurix> sorry i am loggout
[18:44:41] <teeneebobby> hahahaha xD
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[18:44:52] <badbodh> xorg 1.19 + free driver | xorg 1.17 + non-free , pick one <--- ugurix
[18:44:54] <ugurix> now my problem is i cannt open md catalyst control center
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[18:45:25] <ugurix> now what i need do?
[18:45:39] <Jeannie> Make a decision?
[18:45:43] <badbodh> you have to ditch catalyst eventually, stick to free drivers
[18:46:08] <badbodh> Jeannie, his situation https://thepasteb.in/p/y8h6qVK58EztO and https://thepasteb.in/p/BghPp20R49OhY
[18:46:08] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/aFDOzc] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
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[18:46:29] <badbodh> still holding on to xorg 1.17 for catalyst
[18:47:07] <Jeannie> catalyst is dead
[18:47:56] <badbodh> but at this stage if he jumps from 1.17 to 1.19, replace catalyst with free drivers, shit may hit the fan out of nowhere.
[18:48:03] <badbodh> gotta check his xorg configs first
[18:48:17] <badbodh> anybody with ati-graphics here?
[18:48:29] <Jeannie> The R7 265 should work with amdgpu
[18:49:19] <badbodh> ugurix, type this without quotes "/exec -o inxi -Gc0" in this chat
[18:50:18] <badbodh> oh, i forgot. Jeannie kde edition comes with hexchat or konversation ?
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[18:51:33] <Jeannie> It comes with konversation
[18:51:46] <badbodh> hmm
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[18:54:46] <ugurix> now what i need do ? i remove amd catalyst?
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[18:58:41] <ugurix> and tihs https://thepasteb.in/p/8qhOD49jDp8F0
[18:58:43] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Dw9Ajr] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
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[19:03:39] <israuor> heeey... updated my in march 2014 installed manjaro on my laptop... still running. ;)
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[19:38:25] <Kjeldmis> israuor: congrats mate :)
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[19:42:05] <teeneebobby> Bah, I should have uploaded the first video before starting the second video...
[19:42:26] <teeneebobby> Now I have to wait 12 minutes for 1 upload to finish... cries!!
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[19:51:45] <enp0s3> benz
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[20:02:03] <teeneebobby> uploads this last video... 3 minutes.. I can wait!
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[20:04:43] <teeneebobby> finito... muahahaha
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[20:05:35] <manjaro_user> how long does it takes to refresh keys? using pacman-key --refresh
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[20:09:25] <Kjeldmis> manjaro_user: a few moments
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[20:09:45] <Kjeldmis> manjaro_user: why do you ask?
[20:11:02] <manjaro_user> its been a while since i ran the command. It says its renewing 102 keys
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[20:11:29] <Axiongr> Hello.. after installing 16.10 from usb drive on acer laptop(bios not uefi) no bootable device...
[20:11:57] <Kjeldmis> manjaro_user: it can take awhile
[20:12:03] <Strit_Laptop> Axiongr: reinstall grub I think
[20:12:34] <Kjeldmis> manjaro_user: shouldnt take more than a minute or two though.
[20:12:50] <Axiongr> i have doing allready but nothing doing
[20:13:22] <Kjeldmis> Axiongr: if the partition is primary, mark it as active and ensure that the boot flag is set
[20:13:32] <manjaro_user> hmmm
[20:14:25] <Axiongr> I'll chech it...
[20:15:54] <Axiongr> also if I boot form live-cd and choose Boot from Hard Disk it works..
[20:16:27] <Kjeldmis> Axiongr: ah, then you boot section in your bios is configured wrong.
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[20:16:54] <Kjeldmis> Its probably that.
[20:17:12] <Kjeldmis> boot sequence, sorry.
[20:17:54] <Kjeldmis> well, Im off for today, good evening to you ppl.
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[20:18:42] <Axiongr> thank's Kjeldmis
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[20:56:33] <teeneebobby> lol, I lost 2 videos, youtube failed toprocess video... >.>
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[21:01:27] <Luan> https://thepasteb.in/p/3lh76NYp2XvF1
[21:01:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/NpJHSm] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs!
[21:01:32] <Luan> can remove this two packages with conflict ?
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[21:11:41] <mrhubris> good evening
[21:12:22] <mrhubris> Q: is it possible to replace a linux mint 18.1 install with Manjaro from within the system itself? So without bootmedia
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[21:13:20] <Jeannie> You want to instal Manjaro on your running and mounted Mint 18 partitions?
[21:15:30] <mrhubris> well replace LM actually
[21:16:11] <mrhubris> yes
[21:16:16] <mrhubris> that's the answer you needed :-)
[21:16:24] <mrhubris> possible or not without boot media?
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[21:19:57] <plankster> Hi guys. I'm new to all of this. I need to install cmake, and can only find it in the AUR, meaning i have to install it with "yaourt -S cmake". I couldnt find it in manjaros repositories (the pacman stuff).
[21:20:15] <plankster> was I just not looking hard enough? How do i know which packages i should take from where?
[21:21:16] <plankster> could anyone help me out a little?
[21:21:29] <Strit_Laptop> cmake is in the repo
[21:21:49] <Strit_Laptop> its in "extra" repo
[21:22:14] <plankster> > pacman -Q cmake
[21:22:21] <plankster> error: package 'cmake' was not found
[21:22:34] <Strit_Laptop> sudo pacman -Sy cmake
[21:23:06] <plankster> ohh
[21:23:25] <plankster> thank you :) how can i see what the other letters after the first ones do?
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[21:23:36] <Strit_Laptop> man pacman
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[21:24:19] <plankster> thats all i ever wanted! :D thank you very much
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[21:24:51] <plankster> Just from a practical pow, do i first start looking in the manjaro repositories, or the AUR?
[21:25:21] <plankster> and why
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[21:25:31] <Strit_Laptop> first the repo, because it's more safe
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[21:28:15] <hedgie> the AUR is basically like ubuntu ppas or other distros' user repos.
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[21:35:30] <Lowl3v3l> plankster, cmake is definitely in the normal repos
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[21:40:55] <plankster> @Lowl3v3l, yes I've found it. I was using pacman wrong! thanks :)
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[22:19:50] <pullingmyhairout> i installed manjaro about a month ago with the opensource video-ati driver. i decided about a week or so ago to install video-catalyst to see if it performed better and it has been complete garbage. when i go back to video-ati manjaro refuses to boot into the login prompt
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[23:17:04] <manjaro-web|2749> anyone who is firm with manjaro?
[23:17:49] <Joseph> Please ask your question
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