January 23, 2017 
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January 23, 2017 [00:00:30] *** ringo <ringo!~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:00:55] *** Thorax2015 <Thorax2015!~Thorax@94.197.120.133.threembb.co.uk> has joined #manjaro[00:03:10] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[00:03:50] *** Thorax <Thorax!~Thorax@94.197.121.121.threembb.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:04:40] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132048048.public.t-mobile.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:07:08] *** Thorax2015 <Thorax2015!~Thorax@94.197.120.133.threembb.co.uk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:07:44] *** j09 <j09!c2bbfb03@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.187.251.3> has joined #manjaro[00:08:39] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has joined #manjaro[00:08:40] <j09> Hey guys, I sometimes get randomly disconnected from my VPN with no warning. I don't even know where to start working this out, but it just randomly drops down into an un secured connection. I don't know what causes it because I've get no notification.[00:11:11] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[00:13:01] <j09> I should probably file a report to the VPN or something.[00:13:54] <PMunch> That is indeed strange[00:14:05] <PMunch> What VPN software?[00:14:14] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aaynlvnxzgntxrog> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[00:14:51] <j09> OpenVPN[00:15:19] <j09> It happens across multiple desktops, so could it be the VPN?[00:18:30] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@95-25-196-108.broadband.corbina.ru> has joined #manjaro[00:18:40] <du01> it could be. check the logs and see if there is a clue there[00:18:45] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@95-25-196-108.broadband.corbina.ru> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:18:45] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:19:09] <j09> Where would I loog for those?[00:19:11] *** RandomUser201701 <RandomUser201701!~User@hlfxns017vw-142177093198.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net> has joined #manjaro[00:19:12] <j09> look*[00:19:27] <b0n> wellp all my issues have been fixed :) dont use an rtl card with your 4.9.2, protip[00:19:42] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@78.134.211.8> has joined #manjaro[00:19:50] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as manjaro-kde5-new[00:20:00] <PMunch> Hmm, anyone know why this: "echo "\"$(xclip -o -selection primary | ix)\"" | xclip -i -selection primary" doesn't work?[00:20:06] <PMunch> All I get is "" in my primary..[00:20:47] <du01> i assume you're using systemd so use journalctl and pipe it to grep for vpn[00:21:10] <PMunch> Me?[00:21:16] <PMunch> No, this is all on one machine[00:21:18] <du01> @j09[00:21:25] <j09> du01 I think so.[00:21:36] <j09> I'm not sure[00:22:11] *** EQLucky <EQLucky!~eqlucky@86.red-88-5-211.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[00:22:19] <j09> I've got a pretty standard installation.[00:22:35] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:22:54] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:23:29] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@x1-6-74-44-01-e4-f1-52.cpe.webspeed.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:25:01] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@80-121-13-15.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:25:48] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-89-241-165-42.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:26:47] <j09> ok, i'll call it a night on this. I can't be doing with troubleshooting on a Sunday. I've filed a note with my VPN so i'll see if I hear back from them tomorrow. Thanks for all your support here guys. You're all saints.[00:31:14] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[00:32:08] <du01> @j09 had to step away. try this command: journalctl -u NetworkManager.service there may be a clue there as to why it's disconnecting[00:32:40] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:34:02] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@195.142.136.17> has joined #manjaro[00:34:15] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@c-24-5-47-4.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:34:17] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:34:26] <b0n> well the marvell wifi driver isnt fixed yet[00:34:31] <b0n> so, thats fun.[00:37:19] *** drrgrr <drrgrr!~j@94.221.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:38:32] <j09> Looks like an inactivity timeout.[00:38:34] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:38:43] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:39:16] <j09> And I'm guessing something like an inactivity timeout is something only my VPN can change?[00:40:38] *** RandomUser201701 <RandomUser201701!~User@hlfxns017vw-142177093198.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:41:04] *** Kjeldmis <Kjeldmis!~ckk@62.66.164.82> has joined #manjaro[00:41:08] <b0n> apparently by default linux likes to use the vpn as a gateway[00:43:24] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@178-58-163.dynamic.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:45:33] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:45:53] <b0n> i found this out when i was running a VM and connected to my digitalocean vpn. i got a popup in chrome that said my gmail logged in from a strange ip address. it was my pc tunneling the internet through the vpn[00:45:55] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[00:46:58] <j09> Hmm what's really weird is that the logs keep mentioning a local hostname that I havn't used on this machine in years[00:47:26] <j09> Or ever using this computers hard drive come to think of it. That's really bothering me.[00:49:16] <du01> it could just be the name of the config file[00:49:56] <du01> it really depends on your file, you can enable split tunneling or full tunneling. most vpns are for security, so typically they will route everything through it.[00:50:43] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@host-31-6-169-226.dynamic.mm.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:50:46] <b0n> if you check /etc/resolv.conf itll have your vpn's "host" ip as a dns server[00:51:53] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:52:16] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ruttpfosjizsownq> has joined #manjaro[00:52:29] <du01> yup. you can push this in the sever config file. this is used to prevent dns poisoning on public networks[00:54:12] <j09> Okay, so here's an example of a log entry. Where is says HOSTNAME is the old hostname I used on older hard drives. http://pastebin.com/sx0Xjbgg[00:54:13] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/pe2uzX] Dec 28 15:24:14 usr-pc NetworkManager[435]: <info> [1482938654.8548] dhcp4 (enp1 - Pastebin.com[00:54:28] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[00:54:31] <j09> I'm baffled as to why it's even being referenced. This computer has nothing to do with that file.[00:56:16] <j09> I'd reformat and reinstall but I don't think that would fix it.[00:56:23] <du01> haha that is strange[00:57:26] <du01> nothing strange in /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname?[00:58:13] <j09> nope that's all fine[01:01:27] <du01> no idea where that is coming from then. perhaps someone else has an idea[01:01:41] <j09> should i be worried?[01:02:34] <du01> i don't think so. could be part of an old config[01:02:53] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[01:03:34] <j09> But that's impossible, I've nice switched out the hard drive and reformated from scratch many times. I've not used old config files or anything like that.[01:03:59] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[01:05:46] *** manjaro-kde5-new <manjaro-kde5-new!~manjaro-k@78.134.211.8> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:06:51] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[01:09:38] *** j09 <j09!c2bbfb03@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.187.251.3> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[01:09:54] <du01> its not referenced anywhere with your vpn, is it?[01:10:01] <du01> brb duty calls[01:10:08] *** notis <notis!~notis@62.1.167.86.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[01:17:27] *** manjaro-web|5758 <manjaro-web|5758!b5ae2ca1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.181.174.44.161> has joined #manjaro[01:20:08] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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The only thing I changed is - added redshift, changed to adapta theme and papeer icon. The manjaro gnome has lots of applets installed and a theme ( arc ) with custom icons too. Why is this?[08:24:56] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@213.83.153.19> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[08:26:28] *** ckk_ <ckk_!~ckk@0x5550bb07.adsl.cybercity.dk> has joined #manjaro[08:26:40] *** ckk_ is now known as Kjeldmis[08:26:44] <Kjeldmis> morning ppl[08:29:42] *** notis <notis!~notis@62.1.167.86.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[08:30:43] *** qwebirc821123 <qwebirc821123!6151aad7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.81.170.215> has joined #manjaro[08:30:46] <qwebirc821123> howdy[08:31:31] *** qwebirc821123 <qwebirc821123!6151aad7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.97.81.170.215> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:36:30] <newbie_> how does one solve this error when installing VMware on manjaro cinnamon[08:36:45] <newbie_> #unable to stop services[08:36:49] <newbie_> #See log file /tmp/vmware-root/vmware-7141.log for details.[08:37:23] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@188-22-7-90.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[08:37:34] *** dodgejcr <dodgejcr!~dodgejcr@unaffiliated/dodgejcr> has quit IRC 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It didn't tickle my fancy.[14:50:07] <manots> the point it[14:50:16] <manots> mojang endorsed a AUR package[14:50:24] <Jeannie> Stacking boxes, very exciting[14:50:31] <manots> srsly[14:50:39] <b0n> the mods make it worth it[14:50:41] <manots> this is very good for AUR[14:50:53] <b0n> theres an entire implementation of linux (in lua) in a minecraft mod[14:51:01] <Jeannie> stacking moded boxes, very exciting too[14:51:09] <manots> :|[14:51:22] <b0n> oh it worked[14:51:40] <b0n> how tf. i logged in on the website with my pass and it magically worked. then it worked on my client..[14:53:56] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAD2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[14:54:05] <b0n> official launcher doesnt work with my modded install. squid launcher works fine.[14:54:16] <manots> :|[14:54:19] <manots> still betas[14:54:21] <manots> *beta[14:54:37] <b0n> "you are using an unsupported version"[14:54:41] <b0n> lick lick lick ma balllz[14:54:50] <manots> ?[14:56:06] 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*** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[16:11:59] <Joseph> so I have a Samsung N150 netbook with the latest Manjaro Xfce stable[16:12:08] <Joseph> but the function keys for brightness don't seem to be working[16:12:17] <Joseph> is there some workaround for this?[16:17:57] *** tertl3__5 <tertl3__5!~tertl3@71-12-4-71.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:18:05] <yuta> fk[16:18:18] <Joseph> hm?[16:18:23] *** tertl3__5 <tertl3__5!~tertl3@71-12-4-71.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[16:20:31] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[16:20:31] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[16:20:31] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[16:20:38] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3511.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[16:22:34] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[16:22:55] <CountryfiedLinux> good morning[16:23:05] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[16:24:33] <gawd> How goes it ??[16:25:26] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[16:28:37] <CountryfiedLinux> Going good gawd enjoying my day off. How are you?[16:28:42] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[16:30:07] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@c16.campus.uvt.ro> has joined #manjaro[16:30:08] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@c16.campus.uvt.ro> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:30:36] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:30:45] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[16:31:26] <gawd> I'm doing good. Gonna pick up some DVD-RW's today .[16:32:02] <NanoSector> Joseph: could be the kernel just doesn't support them, nothing we can do about that[16:32:13] <NanoSector> gawd: you still burn DVDs?[16:32:23] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[16:32:32] <CountryfiedLinux> burn baby burn[16:32:57] <gawd> Yup !![16:33:07] <NanoSector> gawd...[16:33:25] <Joseph> NanoSector: interesting, hm[16:33:36] <Joseph> Well, that's ok, I can always control it with the power manager applet[16:34:05] <gawd> Whats up with Redox ??[16:35:54] <NanoSector> gawd: redox reactions are fun[16:36:10] <gawd> the OS[16:36:13] <NanoSector> i know[16:36:14] <NanoSector> :P[16:36:24] <NanoSector> they're probably rewriting the kernel again[16:40:47] <gawd> No live for RancherOS .. ??[16:41:05] *** gb-loverss <gb-loverss!~manjaro-k@36.84.0.116> has joined #manjaro[16:41:17] *** crazyfox <crazyfox!~redrover@24-212-180-23.cable.teksavvy.com> has joined #manjaro[16:41:17] *** Snarky <Snarky!70d34d67@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.112.211.77.103> has joined #manjaro[16:41:25] <Snarky> hello[16:41:49] *** manjaro-kde5_ is now known as Simon7[16:42:19] *** j09 <j09!c2bbfb7c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.187.251.124> has joined #manjaro[16:42:21] <Snarky> need some help regarding what tool to use to make a bootable manjaro distro on a usb using linux mint?[16:42:41] <j09> Hey guys, my VPN is randomly disconnecting again. How do I check the logs to see what's happened?[16:42:51] *** gb-loverss is now known as MANJAROO[16:42:53] *** MANJAROO <MANJAROO!~manjaro-k@36.84.0.116> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:44:08] <robin0800> Snarky, imagewriter[16:45:15] <Snarky> robin0800: I tried that earlier but it didn't work. It will load the splash and some terminal interface pops-up. can't remember the output though. any alternatives?[16:45:31] *** robert_HfWU <robert_HfWU!~robert@193.196.133.6> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:45:51] <j09> Does anyone have any VPN recomendations, I think Cyberghost are not cutting it for me. Random disconnections are not cool.[16:46:14] <Snarky> j09: PIA (private internet access)[16:46:20] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[16:47:16] <j09> thanks Snarky[16:47:25] <Snarky> j09: yw[16:49:30] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[16:51:11] <robin0800> Snarky, did you check the downloaded iso?[16:51:40] <Snarky> robin0800: yes for sha1sum for verification. I'm using Image Writer again for the 3rd time.[16:53:12] <robin0800> Snarky, how are you booting bios or uefi[16:53:33] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:54:12] <Snarky> robin0800: I think it's both EFI + UEFI in the BIOS settings.[16:54:42] <j09> If I am getting random disconnections from my VPN, how likely is it that it's the VPN and not my end? Everything seems like it set up as it should.[16:55:06] <robin0800> Snarky, you must boot the iso in uefi mode then[16:55:20] *** Totalkrill <Totalkrill!~Total_Kri@185.32.10.80> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:55:33] <Snarky> robin0800: It's already in UEFI "EFI +UEFI (EFI = legacy mode).[16:55:51] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:55:57] <Snarky> robin0800: It's running both. That's why I installed mint.[16:56:07] *** j09 <j09!c2bbfb7c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.187.251.124> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[16:56:16] *** j09 <j09!5ef2fc1d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.94.242.252.29> has joined #manjaro[16:57:08] <robin0800> Snarky, sorry I meant mbr or uefi[16:58:44] *** EQLucky <EQLucky!~eqlucky@86.red-88-5-211.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[16:59:43] <Snarky> robin0800: grub is already loaded as to why Mint is my main OS.[17:00:34] <Snarky> robin0800: i tried unetbootin and live usb installer, doesn't work. I tried burning another OS (it worked).[17:02:36] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAD2F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:02:43] *** Snarky <Snarky!70d34d67@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.112.211.77.103> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:02:51] <robin0800> Snarky, you need to boot the usb stick in the same mode as your computer either mbr or uefi not unetbootin does not work with hybrid iso's thats what manjaro.iso is[17:04:23] *** namron <namron!~quassel@37.48.80.94> has joined #manjaro[17:04:26] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[17:05:58] <Simon7> Simon test[17:06:20] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-094-218-189-180.094.218.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:07:17] *** Snarky <Snarky!70d34d67@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.112.211.77.103> has joined #manjaro[17:07:25] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:07:43] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[17:07:58] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-090-010.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[17:08:10] <Snarky> Need some help, while trying to install manjaro i encountered an error.[17:08:18] <Snarky> cat" cam[17:08:46] <Snarky> cat: can't open /proc/sys/dev/cdrom/info[17:08:58] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3511.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[17:09:02] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@190.1.185.112> has joined #manjaro[17:09:06] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@190.1.185.112> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:09:53] *** EQLucky <EQLucky!~eqlucky@86.red-88-5-211.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:11:46] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:13:10] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:15:15] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@50.0.102.130> has joined #manjaro[17:16:23] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@94.242.252.40> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[17:16:48] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-084-061-229-046.084.061.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[17:19:05] *** Ceber <Ceber!~cerberus@dslb-188-109-083-065.188.109.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[17:19:10] <CountryfiedLinux> Snarky: Is the directory encrypted?[17:19:22] *** hodyna <hodyna!~hodyna@77.120.46.23> has joined #manjaro[17:19:30] <Snarky> CountryfiedLinux: It is not.[17:21:30] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has joined #manjaro[17:24:05] *** PipeItToDevNull <PipeItToDevNull!~PipeItToD@pool-108-51-88-9.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[17:24:33] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[17:25:05] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[17:25:15] *** manjaro-jwm is now known as holmeslinux[17:25:27] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has quit IRC (Changing host)[17:25:27] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@unaffiliated/holmeslinux> has joined #manjaro[17:25:27] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v holmeslinux[17:25:36] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yosldhumqbehuszu> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[17:25:40] <PipeItToDevNull> So has anyone gotten the Dev-Netinsstall working?[17:25:48] <CountryfiedLinux> Snarky: Did it used to be recognized before? What about with other OSes?[17:27:13] <Snarky> CountryfiedLinux: I tried mint, solus, windows 10, everything worked except for manjaro kde 64bit[17:27:32] <PipeItToDevNull> What is the issue?[17:28:20] *** akirabit <akirabit!~akira@26.red-88-28-141.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[17:28:32] <Snarky> CountryfiedLinux: I'm trying to use unbut it gives me headaches right now. I'm having trouble with the mount but I forced the tool to detect my flash drive by issuing unetbootin installtype=USB targetdrive=/dev/sde[17:28:41] *** akirabit <akirabit!~akira@26.red-88-28-141.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:28:49] <Snarky> unetbootin*[17:28:56] <CountryfiedLinux> I couldn't get the live session to even boot. Says security boot error. No way to turn off secure boot on my Acer's UEFI, and booting in Legacy it says no operating system found or something like that. A lot of strange issues lately Snarky .[17:29:19] *** akirabit <akirabit!~a3@26.red-88-28-141.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[17:29:22] *** namron <namron!~quassel@37.48.80.94> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:29:44] <Snarky> CountryfiedLinux: Mine can't access sys/dev/cdrom/info.[17:29:51] <CountryfiedLinux> Snarky: Strange issues with Manjaro that is.[17:30:16] <Snarky> CountryfiedLinux: Do you have any alternative ideas for creating a bootable iso?[17:31:50] *** crazyfox <crazyfox!~redrover@24-212-180-23.cable.teksavvy.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:31:52] <CountryfiedLinux> Snarky: Boot up a DVD maybe? Or try other USB software methods.[17:31:59] *** namron <namron!~quassel@37.48.80.94> has joined #manjaro[17:32:23] <PipeItToDevNull> If you have access to a Windowsbox run Rufus, that has never failed me[17:33:09] <Snarky> CountryfiedLinux: I'ved tried imagewriter, live usb installer, unetbootin. I have to reDL a windows OS (lol) just to use rufus.[17:33:37] <Snarky> PipeItToDevNull: Thanks for the tip but I don't want to bother myself with windows.[17:33:58] <Joseph> Snarky: Unetbootin is indeed problematic[17:34:04] <Joseph> However with Rufus I've always had success[17:34:45] *** xiva <xiva!~shiva@a95-94-196-241.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #manjaro[17:34:56] <PipeItToDevNull> Grub can be directed to directly boot an ISO, I do this on my laptop, could grub be installed to a USB and get the same effect?[17:35:38] <Snarky> I think grub will presist on a flash drive if want it to.[17:36:30] <PipeItToDevNull> I boot a Kali and a tails ISO that are sitting in my /home directly from grub, it may be an option[17:37:09] *** clickycode77 <clickycode77!~clicky77@c-98-202-222-144.hsd1.ut.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[17:38:14] *** j09 <j09!5ef2fc1d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.94.242.252.29> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:38:22] <Snarky> PipeItToDevNull: wow "tails".[17:38:53] *** j09 <j09!56b7c862@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.183.200.98> has joined #manjaro[17:39:29] <Snarky> PipeItToDevNull: update: using vb works with manjaro KDE iso (lol)[17:40:03] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[17:42:51] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[17:43:08] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@aebg155.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[17:43:48] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:44:33] <j09> does anyone use vpn.ht as their VPN?[17:45:16] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:45:17] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[17:45:59] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[17:47:39] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:47:54] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[17:49:19] *** hodyna <hodyna!~hodyna@77.120.46.23> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:52:44] *** j09 <j09!56b7c862@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.183.200.98> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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A hand crafted IRC client)[18:27:39] *** bandithijo <bandithijo!~bandithij@180.246.139.84> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:29:55] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:e814:d9b7:5db8:a843> has joined #manjaro[18:30:26] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3E260.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[18:32:32] <j09> When I try and use DD my system locks up like it's suddenly using all the CPU power.[18:33:51] <roch_> try dd ;)[18:33:57] <j09> i meant dd[18:34:09] <roch_> U must be encrypted[18:34:29] <j09> nope[18:34:32] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@50.0.102.130> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[18:34:35] *** sroman <sroman!~sroman@186.183.28.6> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:35:02] <roch_> dying disk ? GNU ddrescue is better[18:35:32] <j09> if I want to write an iso to a usb using ddrescue, what command would I use?[18:35:49] <roch_> U can make image, if it stack U can complete readin from end of a disk then work on image file[18:36:11] <roch_> ah, then U don't do that[18:36:18] <j09> tbh I'm just trying to work out why, it hasn't happened before[18:37:03] <j09> This is the command I'm unputting: sudo dd if=linuxmint-18.1-cinnamon-64bit.iso of=/dev/sde bs=4M[18:37:09] <j09> inputting*[18:37:37] <roch_> if=/[18:38:09] <j09> no it picks up the file[18:38:15] <j09> that part is right[18:39:37] <j09> leaving off the bs=4M seems to do this trick[18:40:11] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has joined #manjaro[18:40:46] <roch_> so it calculates optimal block size on itself? nice[18:41:13] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-084-061-229-046.084.061.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[18:41:46] <j09> must be a new thing[18:42:09] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-084-061-229-046.084.061.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[18:42:27] *** Digitteknohippie <Digitteknohippie!~user@fsf/member/digit> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[18:42:29] <j09> incidentally I'm just trying out Mint to see if that network bug has been fixed. 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(Client Quit)[21:28:34] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@aebg155.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:28:48] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@dhcp-5-186-121-174.cgn.ip.fibianet.dk> has joined #manjaro[21:29:27] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:29:59] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-173-52-74-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:31:03] *** noraj <noraj!~noraj@vsr56-3-78-205-117-208.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[21:31:30] *** noraj <noraj!~noraj@vsr56-3-78-205-117-208.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:33:25] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy[21:33:50] <CountryfiedLinux> So I regret getting the Xbox One S because the PS4 controller is so much better IMO.[21:34:53] <manjaroi3> i need the latest .NET framework installed. did any of you guess manage to do that?[21:34:54] <CountryfiedLinux> I considered buying a Titan 2 dongle for PS4 controller compatibility but that would cost me over $100 for both, so figured I might as well just sell the Xbox and buy a PS4.[21:35:35] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@185.118.249.57> has joined #manjaro[21:36:21] <roch> o/[21:36:40] <roch> .NET? mono?[21:36:48] <manjaroi3> .NET[21:37:06] <mDt> mono == open source version of .NET[21:37:14] <manjaroi3> MS has ready installs for Ubuntu, Fedora etc. But no Arch.[21:38:07] <manjaroi3> mDt, so I cant run Net 4.6.1 ??[21:38:22] <manjaroi3> can I do it in Docker then?[21:38:47] <CountryfiedLinux> Probably because Arch isn't as 3rd party friendly. I'm not aware of any commercial software available for Arch that one could buy and double-click install.[21:39:16] <manjaroi3> I searched Yaourt as well.[21:39:38] <mDt> manjaroi3: http://www.mono-project.com/docs/about-mono/compatibility/[21:39:39] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/8Gojiy] Compatibility | Mono[21:39:50] <j09> Alot of 3rd part software gets put in the AUR.[21:39:53] <manjaroi3> okay. I guess i got my hopes up too soon. my plan was to use the omnisharp plugin.[21:40:32] <CountryfiedLinux> j09: But can it be purchased? Or is it pirated.[21:40:35] <Jeannie> That's in aur[21:40:47] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:e814:d9b7:5db8:a843> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:40:53] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.65.148> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:41:08] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.65.148> has joined #manjaro[21:41:13] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:e814:d9b7:5db8:a843> has joined #manjaro[21:41:26] <j09> CountryfiedLinux App like insync have in app purchases.[21:42:11] <manjaroi3> okay. i clearly misunderstood Microsofts intentions.[21:42:28] *** Dearu <Dearu!~Thunderbi@178-58-163.dynamic.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Dearu)[21:42:53] <j09> But I see what you're getting at CountryfiedLinux. There aren't many MS Office type products out there for Arch.[21:44:13] <manjaroi3> its my impression that MS is still opposing free software. they could easily have prepared a package for Arch, but they chose not to.[21:45:04] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@150.242.65.148> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:45:24] *** SPF|Cloud <SPF|Cloud!uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[21:45:42] <manjaroi3> my idea to run it in Docker wont really work i guess, because omnisharp in Atom is the issue right now. Rider is still free to use, but not for long. Mono is a bit crappy, but it works.[21:46:13] <manjaroi3> Visual Studio coming to OSX. So MS basically gave Linux the finger again.[21:46:37] *** LifeIsCode <LifeIsCode!~LifeIsCod@173.46.76.139> has joined #manjaro[21:46:38] <mDt> manjaroi3: I don't understand. mono is in arch extra repository[21:46:46] *** dspstv__ <dspstv__!~egs@cable201-233-168-99.epm.net.co> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[21:46:56] <CountryfiedLinux> j09: And with newer containers like Snaps and Flatpaks commercial software for Linux will be a lot easier to develop.[21:47:02] <CountryfiedLinux> And less expensive.[21:47:15] <j09> yes, good news[21:47:42] <manjaroi3> Snaps and flatpacks? Containers?[21:48:20] <Jeannie> F*ck Flatpak, Snap and all the other new crappy packages[21:49:11] *** mDt <mDt!~mDt@178-253-146-108.3pp.slovanet.sk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:49:46] <manjaroi3> mDt, okay. Mono is in the repo. But It seems that Atom wants the real SDK. hmm.. maybe I have to go back and read up on things. I think I misunderstood something. I though Omnisharp was supporting the REAL .NET. but maybe its mono they are referring to.[21:50:18] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has joined #manjaro[21:50:21] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: gn.)[21:51:25] *** LifeIsCode <LifeIsCode!~LifeIsCod@173.46.76.139> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:51:58] <CountryfiedLinux> If more stable and secure containers that help to provide more and better software available for Linux is crappy then let's crap it up![21:52:33] <Jeannie> Containers? No normal user needs that[21:52:57] <CountryfiedLinux> Yeah, let's just break things once in a while. :P[21:53:26] <CountryfiedLinux> It's worked well for Mac and Android.[21:53:43] <Jeannie> My oldest Manjaro is over 4 years old, never had any "breakage"[21:53:44] <manjaroi3> I agree. NOT free software should be a choice as well. and linux users will never be real normal people.. in a good way :D[21:54:18] <badbodh> howdy[21:54:19] <CountryfiedLinux> I wanna see Facerig ported to Linux. It's open source, there's just not enough demand for it.[21:54:28] <CountryfiedLinux> Not enough demand to port it that is.[21:54:36] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@71-212-237-241.hlrn.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[21:54:49] <badbodh> you can write a pkgbuild yourself and share it in aur[21:54:54] <manjaroi3> I want to see an Nvidia driver that works :D[21:55:04] <Jeannie> My nvidia drivers work actully[21:55:24] <badbodh> ^ divisive drivers, just like american politics[21:55:49] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@static-87-79-77-207.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[21:55:52] *** rumflump <rumflump!~weechat@unaffiliated/olscumpy> has joined #manjaro[21:56:51] <manjaroi3> Mine did too, on Ubuntu. but stopped suing it, since It couldnt rotate my external monitor. Manjaro works well. Only problem is that I cant figure out how to save the config, så I wont have to set up the monitors every time I boot :([21:56:59] *** manjaroi3_ is now known as scl[21:57:16] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@static-87-79-77-207.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:57:19] <badbodh> you sued nvidia ? wow[21:57:44] *** scl <scl!~manjaro-i@71-212-237-241.hlrn.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:57:55] <badbodh> xorg.conf is the answer. If you use a command every time, you could add a line in .xinitrc too[21:58:22] <manjaroi3> :D okay. that was a nice typo. no. this is Denmark. not USA. maybe they will give me a free coffee, but not more.[21:58:31] <CountryfiedLinux> Or maybe Nvidia sued Linus Torvalds for defamation. :P[21:59:32] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[21:59:37] <manjaroi3> badbodh, uuh.. thanks. tht was actually the answer i was looking for. okay. So .xinitrc is the "startup file" mentioned. I thought it was bashrc, but that broke the xserver. thanks a bunch :)[21:59:40] <badbodh> defamation holds only if spreading falsehoods[22:00:03] <badbodh> manjaroi3, bashrc only works when you start a shell (open terminal)[22:00:21] <badbodh> xinitrc works when your GUI starts (like right after login)[22:00:29] <CountryfiedLinux> True badbodh I was making a joke though. :P[22:00:40] <badbodh> use /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/foo.sh for global startup[22:00:45] <CountryfiedLinux> That reminds me of another joke.[22:00:58] <badbodh> make it a knock knock[22:01:07] <CountryfiedLinux> Linux users have been bashing Windows for years. Now they can bash on Windows. :P[22:01:15] *** manjaro-web|6514 <manjaro-web|6514!69e75d7a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.105.231.93.122> has joined #manjaro[22:01:22] * badbodh is on zsh[22:01:34] <manjaroi3> badbodh, aaarg.. okay. thanks. haha.. takes time moving from Ubuntu to Arch, but after I found the Manjaro i3 bundle, Im sold :)[22:01:39] <badbodh> safe to say - i didn't get the joke :D[22:02:08] <CountryfiedLinux> badbodh: Bash can be used on Windows now and also be used to install Ubuntu within it.[22:02:18] <manjaroi3> the joke doesnt work with fish[22:02:30] <badbodh> manjaroi3, works on all distros, unless they build on entirely different stack. like android :P[22:03:00] <badbodh> CountryfiedLinux, you are hurting me. Please stop. Oh the horror[22:03:24] <badbodh> don;t say you can run unity interface on windows 10[22:03:50] <badbodh> fish - when you want all your shell scripts to break[22:03:51] *** manjaro-web|6514 <manjaro-web|6514!69e75d7a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.105.231.93.122> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:04:14] <badbodh> fish and shells don;t go well together <---- pun/joke[22:05:27] <manjaroi3> :D[22:05:33] <CountryfiedLinux> Did you know there's sea shells on the top peaks of Mount[22:05:38] <CountryfiedLinux> Mount Everest?[22:05:56] <CountryfiedLinux> The ' key is too close to the Enter key sometimes. :P[22:06:02] <manjaroi3> because rich jerks go up there to eat oisters?[22:06:22] <CountryfiedLinux> Another fun fact: 2/3 of the earth's water is beneath the surface. That means the ocean makes up only about a third![22:09:22] <CountryfiedLinux> Anyone want an Xbox One S bundle? http://www.lsn.com/xbox-1-s-2-controllers-3-games/5279509.html[22:09:25] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ArRgPC] Xbox 1 S 2 controllers 3 games - $200 in Cookeville TN - LSN[22:09:45] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-173-52-74-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[22:09:49] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~matthias@80-121-67-254.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[22:09:52] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[22:10:58] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@187.107.246.244> has joined #manjaro[22:12:16] <j09> I've always dreamed of mankind discovering a medieval society of sea people who live in undiscovered parts of the deep sea[22:12:38] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:e814:d9b7:5db8:a843> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:12:53] <CountryfiedLinux> I'd like to see what kind of animals exist deep in the undiscovered parts of the Amazon jungle.[22:13:01] *** sunn <sunn!~manjaro-k@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:e814:d9b7:5db8:a843> has joined #manjaro[22:13:06] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-enramczugbskpcaf> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[22:13:30] <CountryfiedLinux> BTW I've noticed that the animals miles down in the ocean are usually ugly. It's as if there's a reason they're not living in the light.[22:13:47] <hedgie> vampire squid look pretty cool[22:15:02] <Jeannie> There are a lot of human and non human beings on the surface that are ugly too[22:15:11] <CountryfiedLinux> You got me curious now hedgie thanks. I'll look them up.[22:15:17] <CountryfiedLinux> hedgie: How do they taste?[22:15:41] <hedgie> you probably wouldn't want to make calamari out of these guys. I think they're cthulhu's sperm[22:15:46] <CountryfiedLinux> I don't recall any beautiful animals from miles down under. Subjective opinion of course.[22:16:04] <hedgie> it all depends on whether or not one finds cephalopods "cute"[22:16:44] <manjaroi3> exec autorandr --change[22:16:56] *** manjaro-web|9968 <manjaro-web|9968!b5ae2ca1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.181.174.44.161> has joined #manjaro[22:17:01] <badbodh> you don;t need to prefix "exec"[22:17:11] <badbodh> just add the command like you;d do in a terminal[22:17:31] <manjaroi3> badbodh, thanks :) will try a reboot.[22:17:48] <manjaro-web|9968> HI[22:17:50] <badbodh> if your system breaks, remember[22:17:54] <badbodh> "i am not here"[22:18:00] <manjaro-web|9968> Can somebody help me[22:18:22] <hedgie> what's the problem?[22:19:00] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[22:20:19] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@dhcp-5-186-121-174.cgn.ip.fibianet.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:20:24] <manjaro-web|9968> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/tEZrrgLkSmqJ8btqpNUY?signature=29612615e90bd26a53231fb994c538893ba6ec73aa5712539e1dd88cf4daa490&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0ODUyMDkzNTd9[22:20:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/fuNQeK] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[22:21:09] <manjaro-web|9968> Upgrade and now not load[22:21:50] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@195.142.136.17> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:21:58] <hedgie> does grub load manjaroweb but not the OS, or does grub not even load?[22:22:58] <manjaro-web|9968> The grub does load[22:23:27] <manjaro-web|9968> the not os[22:23:28] <hedgie> do you use snapper?[22:23:54] <manjaro-web|9968> no[22:24:20] <hedgie> hmm[22:24:21] *** apqlzm-_ <apqlzm-_!~manjaro-k@89-67-140-74.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[22:24:56] *** apqlzm <apqlzm!manjaro-kd@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-ejxpednanrpnxiez> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:25:13] <hedgie> have you verified the filesystem with fsck?[22:25:30] <hedgie> (obviously from a recovery disk)[22:25:46] <manjaro-web|9968> No[22:26:17] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~matthias@80-121-67-254.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:26:20] <hedgie> might want to try that first. I'm not all that familiar with troubleshooting boot issues[22:28:07] <manjaro-web|9968> If I format as I update so that the same thing does not happen to me ?[22:28:43] *** EQLucky <EQLucky!~eqlucky@86.red-88-5-211.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:29:51] <hedgie> can't say. don't know what happened[22:31:47] <manjaro-web|9968> Install KDE manjaro , Then update, restart and stop here[22:31:57] <manjaro-web|9968> https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/sQfBBSxDS92IvGGOUQb1?signature=08dca3a6b9b231655651970b399f66dc05f11f4f1c77fde010285a8429250f0a&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0ODUyMTAwNTJ9[22:31:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/HbQHj0] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[22:32:06] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[22:32:20] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-173-52-74-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:32:38] *** Thorax <Thorax!~Thorax@94.197.121.241.threembb.co.uk> has joined #manjaro[22:34:42] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~AndChat16@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:35:35] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@178.220.104.187> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:36:09] <hedgie> I'd probably try to fix the problem first. running fsck and repairing problems may help[22:37:50] *** manjaro-web|9968 <manjaro-web|9968!b5ae2ca1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.181.174.44.161> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:38:28] *** Kjeldmis <Kjeldmis!~ckk@0x5550bb07.adsl.cybercity.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Kjeldmis)[22:39:07] *** Kjeldmis <Kjeldmis!~ckk@0x5550bb07.adsl.cybercity.dk> has joined #manjaro[22:39:13] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:42:27] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:42:40] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has joined #manjaro[22:43:12] <badbodh> if that happens on first boot post installation, your disk is really falling apart[22:43:21] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132119224.public.t-mobile.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:43:41] <badbodh> no reason for fscking a newly formatted disk. You do that to a newly wed bride[22:44:46] *** apqlzm-_ <apqlzm-_!~manjaro-k@89-67-140-74.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:45:02] <hedgie> they said it was after an upgrade[22:46:32] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:552:2d45:8e03:e614> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[22:46:38] *** mandje_ <mandje_!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:b15b:ae6f:1977:9a1d> has joined #manjaro[22:46:44] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-152-79-171.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has joined #manjaro[22:49:56] *** Swels <Swels!~Pat@p5B05E26D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[22:50:38] *** linux_dream <linux_dream!~linux_dre@unaffiliated/linux-dream/x-5839402> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:57:23] *** Simon7 <Simon7!~manjaro-k@189-70-99-101.user.veloxzone.com.br> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:58:32] *** zapperoo_ <zapperoo_!~ZaP@66-247-202-173.setardsl.aw> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:59:18] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[22:59:19] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[23:03:19] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Quit: Potzblitz!)[23:03:45] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:04:06] *** Swels <Swels!~Pat@p5B05E26D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:11:49] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:12:15] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:13:44] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@185.118.249.57> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:14:16] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[23:14:54] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[23:15:39] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:19:07] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@p4FDC3A03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[23:19:45] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[23:21:59] <badbodh> ah[23:22:45] <badbodh> but systemd hook already runs fsck anyway. Not much point in fscking separately[23:23:21] <badbodh> sorry for the delay, was busy in mint's help channel :D[23:28:18] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-173-52-74-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[23:28:19] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as daemeron[23:28:20] <hedgie> no worries. I'm not used to most troubleshooting most boot issues because I'm too lazy[23:29:19] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbounic@unaffiliated/yabbounic> has joined #manjaro[23:36:13] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@dhcp-5-186-121-174.cgn.ip.fibianet.dk> has joined #manjaro[23:38:48] <manjaroi3> not related specifically to manjaro. Diffenrence between visual-studio-code-git and visual-studio-code-oss??[23:40:15] <manjaroi3> please dont tell me to visit a ms dev channel :D[23:40:21] <tertl3__5> one is git and is oss :P just kidding[23:40:30] <manjaroi3> :/[23:41:01] <badbodh> pre-alpha if you will, -dev , -nightly and like[23:41:14] <manjaroi3> aha.. good. I go for that one. would feel strange if things stop breaking now.[23:41:19] <badbodh> to some -git = -shit[23:43:34] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[23:44:32] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@162.72.158.225> has joined #manjaro[23:44:57] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@78.red-88-19-220.staticip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[23:45:02] <rhg135> yo[23:46:34] <HaikuUser2> hello[23:51:54] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-086-243.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[23:52:01] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-090-010.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:52:07] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:53:37] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@130.43.81.141.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[23:54:10] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[23:54:28] *** xiva <xiva!~shiva@a95-94-196-241.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:55:08] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-173-52-74-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:55:59] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@195.74.250.138.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[23:56:44] *** xiva <xiva!~shiva@a95-94-196-241.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #manjaro[23:58:28] *** HaikuUser2 <HaikuUser2!~vision@78.red-88-19-220.staticip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Vision[0.9.8]: i've been blurred!)[23:59:25] *** tertl3__5 is now known as tertl30055[23:59:37] *** Thorax <Thorax!~Thorax@94.197.121.241.threembb.co.uk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:59:39] *** gr0ggle <gr0ggle!~gr0ggle@hlfxns017vw-142177093198.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net> has joined #manjaro