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[01:10:34] <manjaro-web|9163> ciao
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[01:43:25] <trtl> clear
[01:43:28] <trtl> whoops
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[03:02:59] <bkovacs> Does manjaro support openzfs?
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[03:41:02] <inahd> here's a puzzle: i found an old external hd of mine, gparted says its 150gb (in one big fat32 partition). thunar says 5gig used, 20 free!?
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[03:47:41] <inahd> one folder i found has 70gig in it. so i guess thunar is mistaken
[03:50:51] <GunSlinger> hey all
[03:56:34] <inahd> aloo
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[04:44:19] <manjaro-web|791> Hello can someone help me with importing keys?
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[06:06:50] <timepasser> hi all
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[06:26:27] <rhg135> yo, quick question; how do I get svg previews in dolphin?
[06:28:27] <OffsetTrap> Did someone use manjaro-arm for raspberrypi?
[06:30:59] <rhg135> nope, but why not?
[06:31:29] <rhg135> unless you mean rpi 3 which has an official version, then yes
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[08:03:48] <tiox> Hey guys. I just want to mention something that is of limited interest to most, but is about something I found in the forum.
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[08:04:36] <tiox> So, I wrote this guide, right? https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/replace-caja-with-thunar-and-xfce-desktop/9229
[08:04:38] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/l32Nxi] Replace Caja with Thunar and XFCE Desktop (update 10/02/16) - Tutorials & Guides - Ubuntu MATE Community
[08:05:10] <tiox> I then, just as a bit of egosearching and while I wa trying to figure out how autostart could work in Nemo on MATE, this; https://forum.manjaro.org/t/using-nemo-in-gtk3-mate-rather-than-caja/7490
[08:05:11] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/6Nn8it] Using Nemo in (gtk3) Maté rather than Caja - Support for Community Editions - Manjaro
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[08:05:38] <tiox> And most of it seems like a complete copypaste of my guide. Not even any attribution.
[08:05:48] <ringos> :)
[08:05:50] <tiox> Not that I mind, I just found it funny.
[08:05:55] <ringos> i like thunar :)
[08:06:39] <tiox> Oh yeah. Just, I found autostart in Thunar to be a faff outside of XFCE. But then OTHO autostart in Nemo is a faff outside of Cinnamon.
[08:07:10] <tiox> Excuse me, I meant Xfce. :P
[08:07:45] <tiox> I keep thinking there is some way i can trick dconf into using the same arguments from Nemo but that probably won't work.
[08:08:02] <tiox> WHoops... the same arguments from Caja for Nemo.
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[08:08:54] <ringos> nemo also want control the desktop you have to switch off in dconf?
[08:09:19] <tiox> Because it's literally the same exact stuff schema keys (for dconf) in org.mate.media-handling and org.cinnamon.desktop.media-handling
[08:09:49] <tiox> Yeah, you have to switch that off with gsettings if you don't want to install dconf-editor I believe.
[08:10:23] <tiox> But like, for real don't bother with it. Not until I figure out the media autostart BS anyway.
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[08:15:21] <dodgejcr> hrm, looks like the poster on manjaro forums linked to one of your guides as the source of the information
[08:15:42] <dodgejcr> https://ubuntu-mate.community/t/use-nemo-instead-of-caja-updated-for-yakkety-for-now/4124 <--- he linked to that
[08:15:43] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/hYRwtr] Use Nemo instead of Caja (updated for Yakkety... for now) - Tutorials & Guides - Ubuntu MATE Community
[08:16:09] <dodgejcr> hey ringos
[08:16:13] <ringos> hi
[08:17:04] <ringos> lol manjaro use ubuntu forum software? :)
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[08:18:28] <ringos> i just prefer thunar, file manager doesnt have to shine
[08:18:31] <ringos> :)
[08:18:49] <dodgejcr> MC is best file manager
[08:19:27] <ringos> lol
[08:19:32] <ringos> NC
[08:19:33] <ringos> =)
[08:19:59] <dodgejcr> nc?
[08:20:31] <ringos> Norton Commander :)
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[08:21:57] <dodgejcr> why did I never use that?
[08:22:22] <ringos> Never had MS-Dos? :)
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[08:23:03] <dodgejcr> I did
[08:23:10] <dodgejcr> I might have used it but dont remember it
[08:23:33] <dodgejcr> I didnt do much in ms-dos. I remember some bad ass games but thats about it
[08:25:49] <ringos> oh
[08:26:01] <ringos> was good times =-)
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[08:26:52] <dodgejcr> In the US, its not common to find DOS computers or wasnt common like other countries. As a child, I couldnt go playing with the OS on the family computer lol
[08:26:56] <ringos> my wife watched the trump inauguration on internet
[08:27:51] <dodgejcr> meh, just like any other. Alot of promises that will never be met, alot of dissapointment from people that doesnt like him. alot of cheering by people that do. Nothing changes :D
[08:29:05] <tiox> Except this time, with 50% more riots!
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[08:33:36] <ringos> !ping
[08:33:36] <Botergos> Pong!
[08:33:40] <ringos> hmmmm
[08:35:38] <ringos> dodgejcr, ?
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[08:45:34] <noviisi> Hello! Can someone help with encrypted raid volume? mdadm shows the device and I can open it with cryptsetup, but when i try to mount it manually from /dev/mapper/device I get error of unknown filesystem. How can I solve this problem?
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[08:53:41] <trtl> !ping
[08:53:41] <Botergos> Pong!
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[08:53:58] <trtl> !pong
[08:56:56] <LissajousPattern> o/
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[10:55:18] <avanesov> Hi, how to use font smoothing for i3panel ?
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[10:59:39] <sgametrio> Hi, I'm new here. Don't know if it's the right place to ask this: Which kernel version is development release running?
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[11:44:48] <psamim> Hi there, I just installed Manjaro KDE, but I cannot tap to click on my touchpad. Any advice?
[11:45:38] <psamim> The settings for touchpad taps in system settings are just disabled.
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[11:53:01] <Vlado9A> psamim: so why don't you enable tap in mouse se
[11:53:14] <Vlado9A> touchpad settings
[11:54:37] <psamim> Vlado9A: It's dropdown menu is disabled in system settings.
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[12:03:42] <Vlado9A> psamim: I don't have KDE but I remebmer having it and I'm sure there's an option to make touchpad work for a tap
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[12:04:52] <psamim> Vlado9A: Yes there surely is. The problem is that I do not know how. :)
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[12:06:20] <mirwin> synaptics touchpad?
[12:07:08] <psamim> mirwin: Default settings, just installed manjaro. I am not sure. How can I find out?
[12:07:23] <psamim> mirwin: I have changed/installed nothing.
[12:07:30] <mirwin> so, you used xfce?
[12:07:40] <Mikerhinos> Hi :) New Manjaro user (ex Ubuntu). Having trouble to use my wifi usb dongle (Realtek 8188). Installed the 8188eu dkms thing via AUR, it appears in lsmod, but I can't activate it, pretty sure that I have to blacklist default driver but can't remember how
[12:08:42] <psamim> Mikerhinos: No I just installed Manjaro KDE. No xfce before.
[12:08:55] <psamim> mirwin: No I just installed Manjaro KDE. No xfce before.
[12:09:04] <psamim> Mikerhinos: Sorry, mistake.
[12:09:07] <mirwin> ah, don't mess much with kde
[12:09:19] <mirwin> should be under synaptics or touchpad/mouse
[12:09:22] <Mikerhinos> psamim, No problem :)
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[12:10:04] <bobfosssil_> psamim: if your using KDE try : touchpad settings > tab enable/disable touchpad > then uncheck box called "disable taps and scrolling only"
[12:10:05] <psamim> mirwin: I have found the settings, but they are disabled. The dropdown menus for touchpad tap settings are disabled.
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[12:11:43] <mirwin> hmm, have you tried to install synaptics drivers? just assuming synaptics since they account for a good bit of touchpads
[12:12:17] <psamim> mirwin: So I should install xf86-input-synaptics. Am I right?
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[12:13:07] <Jeannie> Isn't libinput state of the art for touchpads nowadays?
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[12:13:29] <psamim> Jeannie: I am no expert in these.
[12:14:24] <psamim> Jeannie: You mean I should try xf86-input-libinput instead of xf86-input-synaptics ?
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[12:15:14] <Jeannie> Yes. At least that's what the Manjaro devs say
[12:15:16] <Jeannie> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/synaptic-vs-libinput/3155/5
[12:15:18] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/yVILrg] Synaptic vs libinput - Updating - Manjaro
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[12:16:13] <mirwin> i'd go with what the devs say works best with their distro
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[12:19:17] <psamim> Jeannie: Thanks! That was exactly my problem. Thanks.
[12:19:41] <Jeannie> So it's solved now?
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[12:20:39] <magican> Woho.. #testing in Arch makes everything so much more .. blah.. like kenerl 4.9.5-1 fkcs up nvidia.
[12:20:43] <magican> What do we learn from that?
[12:21:01] <Jeannie> Stay away from arch testing
[12:21:12] <magican> NEVER clear /var/cache/pacman/pkg/! Downgrade and everything is back to normal =)
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[12:22:29] <magican> I know, but usually it works almost good :P I really need the 4.9.4 kernel since it solve the audio bug on ASUS motherboards, and arch stable is only 4.8 (4.9 is in testing)
[12:22:48] <magican> So, not much to do.. I can avoid -Syu until it hits stable repos though.
[12:23:05] <magican> On the other hand, as long everything is happy days, -Syu is not needed.
[12:23:11] <MrCasy> good morening everyone
[12:23:13] <Jeannie> It's made soley for testing packages and things can and will break when you use it
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[12:23:53] <MrCasy> this sure seems like a great distro
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[12:47:25] <magican> Hmm
[12:47:31] <magican> is KDE5 something to use at all?
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[12:57:45] <d42> why not? :v
[12:59:51] <Jeannie> I switched to plasma5 some months ago, never regretted it
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[13:04:23] <negen_> magican, you could always use linux-ck from aur it is probably one of the better or best kernels you could use if not running a server or something
[13:05:05] <negen_> linux-ck-4.9.5-1
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[13:17:55] <chr1ss1> test
[13:18:34] <chr1ss1> hi, anyone got 4k youtube with optimus running ?
[13:19:23] <negen_> I do not have any optimus running
[13:20:15] <chr1ss1> possibly the best thing to do :D
[13:20:35] <negen_> but good luck getting intel to do hardware decoding at 4k the nvidia side should be able to handle it i would think depending on the card being used but the intel i have tested cannot even render 1080 with out stutters
[13:20:49] * Jeannie pets her non optimus nvidia laptop
[13:21:12] <negen_> my laptop the intel side is not enabled and the menu to enable it is hidden from the bios
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[13:21:59] <Jeannie> On most optimus laptops it's technically impossible to deactivate the intel graphics
[13:22:22] <Jeannie> As the signal from the nvidia gpu is being passed through the intel chip to the display
[13:22:46] <negen_> mine has a dedicated 1060 gpu in it
[13:22:48] <chr1ss1> 1080p and 1440p is running like a charm with "video-hybrid-intel-nvidia-bumblebee" but rest 4k is rubbish
[13:23:01] <chr1ss1> 540m here..
[13:23:05] <negen_> but there is talk about a custom bios to enable to the intel side
[13:23:40] <Jeannie> Custom bios sounds as if it could give you some interresting times
[13:23:55] <chr1ss1> mh.. it has to be a custom bios at least.. its a dell xps.. nothing to set there at all
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[13:24:29] <negen_> yeah effi has made it easy to play around with the bios
[13:24:42] <Jeannie> I don't use uefi hardware
[13:24:49] <negen_> since it is much easier to backup and restore with things get borked
[13:25:23] <chr1ss1> uefi isn't really supported by this machine so no problem at this side..
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[13:26:20] <negen_> non uefi it is easier to just replace the bios chip but some laptops they are soldered on from what i have seen I have not had a chance to play around with that many laptops to know for sure
[13:27:09] <negen_> odd thing about my new laptop is that the uefi/bios thingies look just like a classic bios
[13:27:14] <chr1ss1> arent they all soldered now ? i mean the last bios chip i could take out was on an core 2 duo desktop platform
[13:27:31] <negen_> non of that fancy point and click driver enabled stuff
[13:27:52] <chr1ss1> who needs that anyway
[13:28:51] <negen_> yeah i know i first saw that stuff like 5 or six years ago and it was the dumbest thing i have seen right after the cisco gui
[13:29:58] <negen_> looks like linux is finally getting some good wifi 4x4 1735mbits
[13:30:08] <Jeannie> 4x4?
[13:30:11] <chr1ss1> 4x4 mimo ?
[13:30:36] <negen_> well i do not think it is mu-mimo but could be
[13:30:55] <chr1ss1> i got 2 unifi ap ac lr
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[13:31:09] <chr1ss1> around 800 mbit peak
[13:31:18] <chr1ss1> with intel 7260
[13:31:47] <negen_> http://www.embeddedworks.net/wlan602.html
[13:31:49] <chr1ss1> are there even cards to support more then that out right now ? :D
[13:31:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/gXVSxr] Compex WLE1200V5-22 / 802.11ac 4x4 MIMO / Mini-PCIe
[13:32:25] <chr1ss1> what a beast..
[13:32:37] <chr1ss1> i dont think this would fit in here :D
[13:32:50] <chr1ss1> and all that antennas
[13:32:53] <chr1ss1> no way
[13:32:59] <negen_> http://www.524wifi.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/700x700/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/w/l/wlp1200bundle.jpg
[13:32:59] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ZoiylL] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)
[13:33:30] <chr1ss1> okay, that makes more sense
[13:33:54] <chr1ss1> do you think you need that right now ? :D
[13:35:09] <negen_> I have this which is a bit older bought it in 2015
[13:35:10] <negen_> http://shop.compex.com.sg/wireless-modules/minipcie/802-11ac/wle900vx-itemp.html
[13:35:16] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/tf1ELD] (link was unresponsive: http://shop.compex.com.sg/wireless-modules/minipcie/802-11ac/wle900vx-itemp.html)
[13:36:02] <negen_> but the motherboard i use right not will not boot up with it from a cold start but will work if i insert it when the power is on which seems a bit not safe to me so it is just sitting in a box
[13:36:29] <chr1ss1> maybe you board has a whitelist ?
[13:36:42] <chr1ss1> got a lenovo for my wife.. the 7260 wont work
[13:36:45] <chr1ss1> had to patch bios
[13:36:56] <negen_> my motherboard does not have a white list
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[13:37:37] <negen_> it is a hardware issue with the chip something about the design of the power on segment of the card
[13:37:58] <negen_> mine is a older design that was fixed in the newer revisions
[13:38:27] <negen_> the motherboard i have is a evga sr-2
[13:38:44] <chr1ss1> okay, so desktop, should be no problem
[13:38:57] <chr1ss1> what AP you got ?
[13:39:27] <negen_> an asus rt-68u
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[13:40:48] <chr1ss1> what rates do you got with it ?
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[13:47:02] <negen_> local traffic i could transfer off my server at 1gbps it would peak at 1.3 and if the file was smaller i would see the link speed drop to 7-800MB/s
[13:47:13] <negen_> time for bed good time
[13:47:17] <negen_> good night
[13:47:32] <LissajousPattern> GN
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[13:50:13] <chr1ss1> night !
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[13:54:04] <gebruiker> what is the default font in xfce again?
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[13:56:55] <Sorch> Hello, my network adapter with the 4.8.xx/4.9.xx series of kernel gets its networking information but there is no network through-put yet with the 4.4.xx series its working fine (using it right now) the adapter is 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06)
[13:57:23] <Sorch> also to note this is _only_ with manjaro
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[13:58:31] <bllyanos> hello guys
[13:58:34] <bllyanos> how are u
[13:58:38] <bllyanos> is good to be back
[13:58:43] <gebruiker> hey bllyanos
[13:58:44] <bllyanos> and my english is still bad
[13:58:52] <bllyanos> hei geb
[13:59:00] <gebruiker> bllyanos: can you check what the default font is in xfce?
[13:59:19] <bllyanos> check in?
[13:59:30] <bllyanos> im using KDE
[13:59:37] <gebruiker> oh
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[14:02:18] <Strit> I believe Cantarell is default in XFCE edition.
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[14:03:54] <LucyDemoon2> hey
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[14:13:16] <LucyDemoon2> fuck i have a rat in my roof
[14:13:59] <Strit_Laptop> I got wires there. :)
[14:14:03] <Jeannie> sudo pacman -Rns rat
[14:14:56] <LucyDemoon2> whats that?
[14:15:17] <mirwin> lol
[14:15:18] <Jeannie> A command to deinstall the rat and all it's dependencies
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[14:15:33] <mirwin> food and water are likely dependencies
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[14:15:36] <mirwin> starve it out
[14:15:41] <LucyDemoon2> ok i use only octopi
[14:16:05] <Jeannie> Octopi is just a graphical frontend to pacman...
[14:16:26] <LucyDemoon2> the command that i used was sudo pacman-mirrors -i
[14:16:40] <LucyDemoon2> the only one XD
[14:17:03] <mirwin> i'd get familiar with the command line arguments for pacman btw. it's very helpful in the future should you be unable to boot into your desktop
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[14:18:11] <LucyDemoon2> i had no errors with manjaro and there updates
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[14:18:54] <Strit_Laptop> LucyDemoon2: you might in the future. It is rolling after all.
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[14:19:52] <LucyDemoon2> ok
[14:20:25] <mirwin> especially if you end up having to use alternate drivers and blacklist incorect modules. fairly common on intel or nvidia
[14:20:49] <Jeannie> Don't try to install graphics drivers in manjaro the arch way
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[14:21:13] <Strit_Laptop> mirwin: I've never had to do that on my intel and nvidia machines.
[14:21:16] <LucyDemoon2> alternate drivers? the nonfree nvidia driver?
[14:21:23] <mirwin> yea, it happens
[14:21:39] <mirwin> only use if you have issues with proprietary though
[14:21:52] <mirwin> er OS
[14:22:12] <Jeannie> you will brick your system if you bypass mhwd to install "alternaive" drivers
[14:22:14] <LucyDemoon2> no have no problems with the nvidia driver and i have an gtx 1070
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[14:22:44] <kiwikiwi> welcum faggits
[14:22:47] <mirwin> sorry 5am and I've been up since 9am lol. you'll brick it if you are unfamiliar with linux
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[14:23:11] <mirwin> and only use proprietary if there's issues with the opensource one is what i'd meant to say
[14:23:23] <Jeannie> I disagree
[14:23:37] <Strit_Laptop> I use nonfree because I play games.
[14:23:39] <Jeannie> Especially when you run nvidia graphics
[14:23:48] <mirwin> feel free to share. i claim to be no expert
[14:23:54] <LucyDemoon2> strit me too ^^
[14:24:24] <Jeannie> The open source nouveau driver still limits your gpu's performance drastically
[14:25:14] <LucyDemoon2> i hate nouveau cant play games with that
[14:25:17] <mirwin> i gotta fix my fiance's mac pro since i'm the original one who had it running well and now the gpu driver appears to be hanging the system after the fiance decided to do a reinstall themselfs lol
[14:26:00] <Jeannie> A mac pro? The one that looks like a trash can?
[14:26:14] <mirwin> but, that can wait until i'm done w/ my stuff ;) fiance has years more experience with linux than myself, so not leaving a noobie to themselves
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[14:26:58] <mirwin> mmm this as a mac pro tower from a few years ago. was used for audio engineering for some rather big projects, so while i hate osx, i understand its uses in certain contexts
[14:28:13] <mirwin> i was using it because of the 2nd cpu, both of which are pretty beastly. not worth the cost unless you need it for something like neuindo or however that's spelled
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[14:29:12] <LucyDemoon2> 2nd cpu ? for what?
[14:30:30] <mirwin> not totally sure how it works, but it's supposed to be able to access the ram more quickly in addition to it being 2 xenon quad core chips. not planning to purchase one, so not my cup of tea
[14:31:18] <LucyDemoon2> i have an xeon E5-2630v4 in my mashine for 3d modelling
[14:31:47] <mirwin> nice, the creative stuff just isn't my talent ;)
[14:32:03] <mirwin> i can barely theme my computer and it look alright :P
[14:32:10] <LucyDemoon2> ^^ yes its not easy
[14:32:45] <mirwin> yea, and just never something i've cared enough about to do on each install. planning to do one and just keep an image stored away
[14:34:42] <LucyDemoon2> i will make an game with ue4, linux needs more games better games, make 3dmodells with "the foundry modo" thats awesome under linux no bluescreens, no stucks ^^
[14:36:28] <mirwin> nice, yea gaming on linux COULD be far better than windows if more things came to windows and more stuff were to become opensource. i just can't convert for all sorts of other programs i've crushed my soul and had to install windows for
[14:36:40] <mirwin> so i dual boot
[14:37:19] <Jeannie> I use specially made hardware for gaming
[14:37:20] <LucyDemoon2> i dont have dual boot anymore but i miss a little group of games
[14:37:42] <LucyDemoon2> i hate the os switching
[14:38:42] <mirwin> i only do for work. im an IT consultant, so i do everything from borked windows installs to data recovery. my paid data recovery technician tools only was licensed to windows, and the licensing is extremely expensive for businesses
[14:38:47] <LucyDemoon2> special made hardware for gaming?
[14:38:55] <Jeannie> Yes
[14:39:03] <mirwin> before that, i was straight linux for 4 years
[14:39:13] <Jeannie> Made solely for gaming
[14:39:51] <LissajousPattern> nice
[14:40:14] <mirwin> could you cite some sources on that? most gaming hardware has many other uses
[14:40:20] <LucyDemoon2> gaming hardware like ROG? or MSI Gaming? i think thats shit sorry ^^
[14:40:31] <Jeannie> Let me look it up
[14:40:37] <mirwin> cool, i'll check it out
[14:40:48] <mirwin> looking to build a new desktop soon
[14:40:49] <Jeannie> It's called Playstation 3, made by Sony
[14:40:58] <mirwin> :p
[14:40:58] <LissajousPattern> hahaha
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[14:41:13] <LucyDemoon2> XD
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[14:41:35] * mirwin installs linux on Jeannie 's ps3 and starts btc mining
[14:41:36] <LucyDemoon2> i have an PS3 and 4 and vita and ps2 and ps1 and psp XD
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[14:42:57] <LucyDemoon2> mirwin thats not work wit never firmware
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[14:43:25] <LucyDemoon2> *not work with new firmware
[14:44:07] <mirwin> awww you've got a new one :(
[14:44:36] <Jeannie> My PS3 is a very early version, I could install linux on it
[14:45:25] <LucyDemoon2> my not but i can flash the nand chip when i have an nand flasher XD
[14:46:01] <LucyDemoon2> that costs 300€/$ ^^
[14:46:13] <Jeannie> But why should I install Linux on my PS3?
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[14:46:41] <mirwin> idk now that the difficulty is so high on the blockchain
[14:46:51] <LucyDemoon2> btc mining thats is an goot idea
[14:46:58] <mirwin> was cool back in 2008
[14:47:14] <mirwin> now power would be more than what you'd see in return unfortunately
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[15:29:59] <flashback> sup?
[15:30:10] <flashback> ringos: !!!!
[15:30:38] <flashback> \o/
[15:32:26] <ringos> hej,
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[15:32:33] * ringos thatst gave me a flashback
[15:32:36] <ringos> :)
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[15:34:03] <flashback> hey ringo
[15:34:09] * flashback feeling the power of a brodah
[15:34:11] <flashback> :-)
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[15:35:03] * flashback thinks ringo is a good friend
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[15:35:27] <flashback> hahahaha
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[15:36:11] * flashback feels lite
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[15:38:02] * flashback is set.
[15:38:05] <flashback> hi!
[15:38:06] <flashback> ;P
[15:38:07] <ringos> HMMMM
[15:38:17] <ringos> DO I KNOW YOU ? :)
[15:38:19] <ringos> OOOP
[15:38:21] <ringos> ooopsµ
[15:38:26] <ringos> big letters ...
[15:38:52] <flashback> yeah im a pretty honk kong muyaya
[15:39:15] <ringos> hah
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[15:43:52] <SkyeNymph> Hey guys, anyone know a webcam application that is DE independant, GTK based, and has all the cool features like a timer, or burst shots and all of that?
[15:44:15] <Strit_Laptop> SkyeNymph: Cheese not doing it for ya? :)
[15:44:28] <SkyeNymph> Cheese is not DE independant
[15:44:34] <SkyeNymph> Requires multiple GNOME componenets
[15:44:55] <ringos> that count for most
[15:44:57] <Strit_Laptop> Well, most gtk applications use some gnome components.
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[15:45:33] <SkyeNymph> And guvcview and wxcam do not have any of the features listed
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[15:45:38] <SkyeNymph> I at LEAST need a timer
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[15:47:04] <ringos> hmmm
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[15:48:43] <manjaro-kde5-> After the last update Plasma keeps crashing randomly and I get kicked back to the login screen. Is there a log I can look at to start to troubleshoot these crashes?
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[15:53:37] <ringos> !ping
[15:53:37] <Botergos> Pong!
[15:55:32] <roch> o/
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[15:57:59] <teeneebobby> Damn, did an 1 local recording, 8gb video, I need to do a minor video edit... 15 minutes.. only 6% done...o noes
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[15:59:41] <teeneebobby> When it comes to upload the file... my gawd.. how long that's going to take :/ :.....(
[15:59:58] <teeneebobby> LissajousPattern, yo
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[16:00:50] <teeneebobby> No more 1hr videos... /me keeps to 30 minutes sharp.... D:
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[16:01:42] <thid_home> oi
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[16:03:41] <teeneebobby> o/
[16:03:46] <thid_home> enp3s0, creative name xD
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[16:05:40] <teeneebobby> :-p
[16:05:58] <LissajousPattern> yo
[16:06:17] <teeneebobby> Man, I need to setup my other computer to do transcoding man
[16:06:20] <teeneebobby> LOL
[16:06:40] <teeneebobby> LissajousPattern, I see you here more often these days :-p
[16:07:20] <LissajousPattern> yeah i have been chilling here a bit
[16:07:44] <teeneebobby> Kewl kewl
[16:08:13] <teeneebobby> If I didn't have to video edit this video, I would have upload the video and resume gaming while it's uploading... sigh :.......(
[16:08:28] <teeneebobby> Trump, he gets signed in
[16:09:03] <teeneebobby> First thing he does after signs his official cabinet picks... change the whitehouse.gov page and cut funding for home owners
[16:09:11] <teeneebobby> Take a weekend vocation :-p
[16:09:13] <teeneebobby> muahahahahahhaha
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[16:11:31] <vmbr1> hmm
[16:11:46] <vmbr1> guys I have hp t5720, any idea what I could use it for ?
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[16:12:42] <teeneebobby> Ship it to me:-p
[16:12:51] <vmbr1> lol
[16:13:03] <vmbr1> but srsly
[16:13:30] <vmbr1> amd geode nx1500, 512mb ram, I just added 20GB hdd
[16:13:48] <Sorch> ooo a thin client
[16:14:02] <vmbr1> awww g2g
[16:14:05] <vmbr1> cya later
[16:14:06] <Strit_Laptop> Unless it uses less power than a raspberry pi, it's better to discard it I think.
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[16:15:03] <teeneebobby> looks at LissajousPattern :=p
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[16:16:18] <CountryfiedLinux> Good morning!
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[16:19:37] <SkyeNymph> Hmmm GNOME or Plasma.....
[16:19:53] <SkyeNymph> Pretty much have to use one or the other to get a pure and complete desktop
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[16:22:03] <SkyeNymph> Shame Unity isn't Ubuntu specific
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[16:22:24] <Alec> hey
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[16:22:37] <SkyeNymph> Shame Unity is Ubuntu specific
[16:22:38] <SkyeNymph> *
[16:22:56] <Strit_Laptop> lol
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[16:23:17] <SkyeNymph> What is Budgie?
[16:23:33] <Strit_Laptop> Solus' DE.
[16:23:37] <m4sk1n> Cinnamon and MATE are also complex DE's
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[16:24:06] <SkyeNymph> No good non-DE specific webcam apps
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[16:24:19] <SkyeNymph> So that leaves me with just Plasma or GNOME
[16:24:38] <Sorch> what about cheese?
[16:24:58] <gawd> Ahoy !!
[16:25:00] <SkyeNymph> Comes with a large number of GNOME components
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[16:25:22] <SkyeNymph> Like gnome-desktop
[16:25:38] <Sorch> ah right
[16:25:50] <dokutagero> Hey guys, I just did a fresh install of Manjaro i3 and when booting after the installation it worked but at next reboot (no matter if I update or not the system) I get stuck after GRUB with a black screen and the last thing I see are some messages about journaling. Anyone had similar issues?
[16:26:02] <dokutagero> I'm on a live USB now trying to figure out the fix
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[16:26:55] <CountryfiedLinux> SkyeNymph, TBH for me Unity hits the most marks in what I want in a Linux desktop.
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[16:27:40] <WorkerGuy> i need help how do i install manjaro 3.5 verstion
[16:27:52] <Strit_Laptop> manjaro 3.5???
[16:28:02] <Strit_Laptop> What is that, and where did you get it?
[16:29:23] <WorkerGuy> sorry how get the update vertion of manjaro
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[16:29:36] <Strit_Laptop> Download from manjaro.org
[16:29:40] <SkyeNymph> CountryfiedLinux, But you can only install it with poobuntu
[16:29:50] <CountryfiedLinux> The next release should be called Manjaro 10 or Manjaro OS 10 :P haha JK
[16:29:54] <SkyeNymph> And to be honest, it lacks a webcam software
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[16:30:50] <SkyeNymph> I guess Gnome Shell it is
[16:31:07] <CountryfiedLinux> Gnome has great extension support.
[16:31:24] <CountryfiedLinux> And extensions tend to better integrate than additional apps.
[16:31:41] <SkyeNymph> I prefer QT but Plasma is just too heavy
[16:31:47] <SkyeNymph> GNOME Shell is a hair lighter
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[16:31:54] <Strit_Laptop> really?
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[16:32:05] <Strit_Laptop> my plasma is pretty light.
[16:32:09] <flashback> howdy :)
[16:32:38] <flashback> god damn it
[16:32:45] <CountryfiedLinux> Lightweight seems to be an overly used word. Are we back to XP machines?
[16:32:57] <flashback> \\\*/
[16:33:00] <SkyeNymph> Strit_Laptop, I have intel graphics
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[16:33:08] <Strit_Laptop> So do I. :)
[16:33:09] <SkyeNymph> And an older i3
[16:33:10] <CountryfiedLinux> I meant heavy seems to be an overly used word.
[16:33:12] <CountryfiedLinux> And bloat.
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[16:33:49] <WorkerGuy> i need the manjaro KDE edition
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[16:34:01] <flashback> shiting silly ddosers..
[16:34:05] <flashback> hey
[16:34:11] <CountryfiedLinux> And lightweight tends to mean fewer desktop features in exchange for little to no noticeable performance. That is unless you like to stare at a system monitor window and see all the wasted RAM not being utilized.
[16:34:13] <Strit_Laptop> WorkerGuy: then download it.
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[16:35:02] <SkyeNymph> CountryfiedLinux, Heavier desktops run slowly and burn my laptop up
[16:35:18] <SkyeNymph> And both of them seem to be fraught with memory leaks, requiring frequent reboots
[16:36:00] <CountryfiedLinux> SkyeNymph, Sounds like some very limited hardware. You would be a rare exception that tends to benefit from minimal desktops.
[16:36:14] <CountryfiedLinux> I mean minimal system requirements.
[16:36:20] <SkyeNymph> I have 8GB of RAM, an i3 processor and intel graphics
[16:36:40] <SkyeNymph> This has been my experience with the two largest DEs repeatedly
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[16:42:07] <SkyeNymph> CountryfiedLinux, Strictly speaking, my specs are well above minimum
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[16:43:08] <SkyeNymph> I'll have to go with GNOME
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[16:43:19] <SkyeNymph> I NEED webcam software that is good, for work
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[16:45:16] <roch> SkyeNymph, what good webcam software need to do?
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[16:46:21] <SkyeNymph> Burst shot, timer, decent FPS for video recording, etc
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[16:47:52] <SkyeNymph> guvcview and wxcam lack these functions
[16:48:06] <roch> can't help, got only shi**y webcam
[16:48:20] <SkyeNymph> I have a Logitech C920
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[16:48:49] <Strit_Laptop> I have that one too. :)
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[16:49:02] <flashback> hmmm hey
[16:49:05] <flashback> problem solved :p
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[16:49:07] <flashback> XDDDD
[16:49:32] <SkyeNymph> Strit_Laptop, It is a good cam
[16:49:42] <flashback> [200~16:49:38 kaos | flashback si 1 fijmnoprtxyz 16:46 (partyline )
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[16:49:47] <flashback> imma zero
[16:49:59] <flashback> ;-P
[16:50:10] <Strit_Laptop> SkyeNymph: it is. I use OBS when I need to record though, but I use that for streaming too so.
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[16:51:05] <inTOxiCAted> i never learned emacs
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[16:54:34] <CountryfiedLinux> SkyeNymph, I recommend appear.in for video chat. Hangouts is good as well. Both can be done in the web browser.
[16:55:33] <Strit_Laptop> CountryfiedLinux: not sure he wants video chat. :)
[16:55:58] <SkyeNymph> CountryfiedLinux, Trust me, that is not what I need
[16:56:25] <SkyeNymph> Strit_Laptop, Bingo. The job I am hoping to start will involve some video chatting, but not only that
[16:56:26] <SkyeNymph> Also
[16:56:28] <SkyeNymph> Not a he
[16:56:34] <CountryfiedLinux> SkyeNymph, You looking for recording software?
[16:56:42] <SkyeNymph> Name is Winter, I am a girl, albeit a trans one
[16:56:49] <SkyeNymph> CountryfiedLinux, yupyupyup
[16:57:21] <CountryfiedLinux> SkyeNymph, I'd recommend having the webcam display open and capturing the video and audio with SimpleScreenRecorder, OBS, or Kazam.
[16:57:30] <Joseph> So in some days I'm going to get an older netbook with 2GB RAM and an Intel® Atom™ Processor N450 (512K Cache, 1.66 GHz). Is this good enough to run Manjaro or do I need better specs? Thanks.
[16:57:38] <SkyeNymph> OBS sucks
[16:57:43] <SkyeNymph> Worst interface ever
[16:57:46] <CountryfiedLinux> SkyeNymph, Screencasts tend to be more reliable in Linux than capturing with the webcam apps.
[16:57:54] <SkyeNymph> SSR is for recording screens
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[16:58:18] <SkyeNymph> And I also need to take good pictures
[16:58:25] <CountryfiedLinux> Yes SkyeNymph but you can maximize/full screen the webcam display or choose the webcam display window for recording.
[16:58:27] <SkyeNymph> So I need a good program for that as well
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[16:58:34] <CountryfiedLinux> SkyeNymph, screenshot
[16:58:43] <SkyeNymph> No
[16:58:50] <SkyeNymph> I have tried it it is shit
[16:58:58] <CountryfiedLinux> works fine for me
[16:59:05] <SkyeNymph> SSR just doesn't get good enough quality or have the burst shots I need
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[16:59:46] <CountryfiedLinux> Logitech has great webcam software but not for Linux.
[17:00:04] <CountryfiedLinux> I'd like to see Facerig ported to Linux. It is open source.
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[17:04:33] <gawd> Bose any good ??
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[17:06:03] <CountryfiedLinux> gawd, Great speakers.
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[17:06:17] <CountryfiedLinux> My $40 Jam speaker works fine though.
[17:06:18] <mirwin> overbpriced speakers
[17:06:29] <mirwin> if u want some good answers, remind me in a few hrs
[17:06:41] <mirwin> fiance is an audio engineer and is asleep atm
[17:06:46] <CountryfiedLinux> It's nice that Bose speakers can fill a big room without being very loud close to them.
[17:06:48] <gawd> Broke my harman/kardon speakers
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[17:07:18] <CountryfiedLinux> Skull Candy and iFrogz are great for working out.
[17:07:30] <CountryfiedLinux> But you can buy $5 bluetooth earbuds on Amazon.
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[17:08:03] <mirwin> we have umm i can't remember :/ but they're studio speakers. fiance had helped a friend pick out some good speakers at the right pricepoint and could likely tell you specs to look for in the cheaper ones
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[17:08:25] <mirwin> awake 36 hrs can't think
[17:09:50] <CountryfiedLinux> SkyeNymph, Isn't there an app called Shutter or something like that? It does shot bursts. You could also play video recordings and move one frame at a time. Probably not what you're looking for though, just ways around that might work.
[17:10:04] <Joseph> So in some days I'm going to get an older netbook with 2GB RAM and an Intel® Atom™ Processor N450 (512K Cache, 1.66 GHz). Is this good enough to run Manjaro or do I need better specs? Thanks.
[17:10:27] <mirwin> the netbook version if it still is in development should be good to go
[17:10:33] <Joseph> mirwin: I see.
[17:10:39] <CountryfiedLinux> Joseph, It should be fine for most web browsing and email.
[17:10:41] <Joseph> mirwin: I had no clue there was a specific netbook version.
[17:10:48] <mirwin> i threw it on an hp thinkpad and it was pretty nice
[17:10:49] <Joseph> CountryfiedLinux: Yeah, I don't plan on doing much else.
[17:10:53] <Joseph> mirwin: Cool.
[17:10:57] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm gonna buy a Chromebook.
[17:10:57] <mirwin> yea, i'd foun dit on the sourceforge
[17:11:03] <CountryfiedLinux> An Acer Chromebook 15.
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[17:11:11] <mirwin> but idk it's status at this point as i've not eeded that architecture in a long time
[17:11:26] <CountryfiedLinux> Comes with a 15.6" 1080p screen and is $199 now.
[17:11:27] <Joseph> Architecture? Well, this is an amd64 processor, it isn't ARM or anything.
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[17:11:52] <mirwin> ah, mine was like i386 or soemthing
[17:11:56] <Joseph> I see.
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[17:12:04] <mirwin> i'd stick w/ like lxde or xfce though
[17:12:14] <Joseph> Right, yes, I was eyeing the Xfce edition of Manjaro.
[17:12:21] <mirwin> yea, i like it
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[17:12:43] <mirwin> how many cores is it?
[17:12:57] <Joseph> One physical core, but it's hyperthreaded so the OS will see 2.
[17:13:20] <mirwin> might suck for compiling but should suffice for "average use"
[17:13:41] <Joseph> Well, compilation may benefit from the -j flag with the hyperthreading, you can do stuff in paralle.
[17:13:42] <Joseph> l
[17:13:48] <Joseph> But yeah, I'm not going to use it for that. XD
[17:14:29] <mirwin> hmm, interesting. i didn't know about that. not a dev, so i mainly just compile other people's stuff
[17:14:38] <Joseph> I see.
[17:14:42] <Joseph> Well, with make you
[17:14:44] <Joseph> Woops.
[17:14:58] <Joseph> With make you've used the -j flag to specify multiple core processing in parallel, right?
[17:15:07] <Joseph> That can cut compilation time down by loads.
[17:15:34] <mirwin> hmm, neat. news to me. will be helpful on a laptop that's kinda become mine that's dual core hyperthreaded though ty
[17:15:42] <Joseph> Yah.
[17:16:17] <Joseph> mirwin: Where is this "netbook" edition? Is it labelled as such?
[17:16:25] <mirwin> client paid for the work... needed new drive... answered the phone once and said they forgot to press send on the order... no call no replies, so i guess i got a sony viao
[17:16:29] <mirwin> let me look
[17:16:34] <Joseph> Ah.
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[17:19:45] <mirwin> heh, Joseph apparently it's perfect for you
[17:19:56] <mirwin> special kernel for atom cpus
[17:20:40] <Joseph> o.o Link.
[17:21:06] <mirwin> copy from the forum post where the maintainer was saying that he plans to update when he gets time but the lates iso updates w/o problems
[17:21:08] <mirwin> just install any edition, OpenRC works too, and then install linux-netbook-manjaro kernel and palemoon-atom
[17:21:16] <Joseph> ahh I see.
[17:21:18] <mirwin> https://forum.manjaro.org/t/netbook-edition/1068/9
[17:21:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/uHyLTb] Netbook Edition - Support for Community Editions - Manjaro
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[17:21:37] <Joseph> OK, good stuff. I'll get the Xfce edition and have a look at those two packages.
[17:22:22] <Joseph> "It uses around 220mb ram at idle."
[17:22:27] <Joseph> That is pretty light.
[17:22:29] * Joseph nods.
[17:22:32] <mirwin> beautiful
[17:22:38] <Joseph> Comparable to Lubuntu.
[17:22:42] <Joseph> And that uses LXDE.
[17:22:55] <mirwin> yea, i use xfce when i need to have a bunch of stuff running even on my system that isn't starved for ram
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[17:29:22] <teeneebobby> 1 hour and half
[17:29:33] <teeneebobby> 53%! :...........(
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[17:31:56] <teeneebobby> it would be so messed up, the rendered video comes out shitty :......(
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[17:48:05] <Joseph> lol
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[17:48:56] <mirwin> errr ohhh kay
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[18:05:38] <Celmor> can someone suggest a simple proxy server application that's not SOCKS? the SOCKS one I can get through ssh (-D) makes problems with a quite a few problems that only have experimental SOCKS proxy support
[18:07:24] <nexos> Celmor, what are you trying to do? vpn is possible, or simple http proxys
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[18:08:05] <Celmor> want an http proxy, only want certain programs to use that proxy
[18:08:16] <Celmor> and leave windows with no internet connection
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[18:08:26] <TheGoose_> What is the best thing to use to get an xbox one controller working?
[18:08:27] <Celmor> manjaro is my 'router'
[18:08:35] <TheGoose_> It's the wireless one, but im using as USB
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[18:09:52] <jinsun> there is squid proxy server, but I don't know if it is simple or easy to configure
[18:10:49] <d42> it's ~ok
[18:10:55] <Celmor> I don't need any caching or anything fancy, when searching per pacman I get tons of results
[18:11:29] <Celmor> and online most people suggest only overkill proxy servers for my needs
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[18:12:07] <nexos> Celmor, sth like this? https://www.gypthecat.com/tinyproxy-a-quick-and-easy-proxy-server-on-ubuntu
[18:12:09] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/MFbNUc] Tinyproxy A Quick and Easy Proxy Server on Ubuntu | Gyp the Cat dot Com
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[18:13:45] <nexos> Celmor, personally, I like the ssh socks solution, did you try to use tsocks for your applications? works fine with most applications. they don't need built in proxy support
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[18:14:26] <Celmor> if that's a linux solution it's nothing for me, the client is windows
[18:14:46] <nexos> there is some kind of "proxifier" for windows, too
[18:14:57] <nexos> worked for me some years ago
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[18:19:54] <nexos> why don't you just go through some http proxy tutorials and see if they fit your needs? there are plenty
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[18:22:51] <Celmor> those are also application specific, I don't need a tutorial, I need a suggestion so I wondered if anyone had any
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[18:26:03] <nexos> in the tutorial you see if they are easy to configure and i gave you one suggestion
[18:26:32] <nexos> tinyproxy even has https support now
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[18:32:16] <darkbit> I'm having trouble installing lighttable. pamac reports that libudev.so.0 can't be found.
[18:33:09] <Celmor> nexos, already trying tinyproxy out, thanks
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[18:37:16] <darkbit> I found something tha said I should build libudev from AUR... could anybody help me how to do that?
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[18:39:59] <d42> > pkgfile -s libudev.so.0
[18:40:01] <d42> > community/libudev0-shim
[18:40:03] <d42> ? :^)
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[18:44:57] <Bagga_> any tips on how to fix my microphone that suddenly stopped working in pulseadio?
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[18:45:10] <Bagga_> I usually run pure ALSA but haven't set that up on this comp yet
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[18:46:09] <darkbit> d42 I'll try that in a bit and install lighttable again
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[18:47:42] <Digit> hi. is there an openrc manjaro iso? i failed to find it linked on the site. or would i just get any manjaro iso and do pacman -S openrc-base, as from: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Openrc ?
[18:47:43] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/qnKYmM] OpenRC, an alternative to systemd - Manjaro Linux
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[18:51:47] * Digit finds them, not on manjaro.org, presumes unofficial
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[18:56:51] <Celmor> d42, pkgfile works for manjaro?
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[18:57:20] <d42> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[18:57:26] <d42> i see no reason why not
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[19:01:18] <Bagga> argh... I get no sound from any of my microphones... wtf is going on :(
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[19:04:25] <Bagga> huh so I can activate "loopback mixing" through alsamixer and then I get my microphone fed back into my headset
[19:05:01] <Bagga> but there seems to be no way to get the sound anywhere else than my headphones, as in.... no other program
[19:05:04] <Bagga> nothing
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[19:06:57] <ringos> sudo alsactl restore ?
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[19:08:51] <Bagga> lsactl: set_control:1461: Cannot write control '2:0:0:Independent HP:0' : Device or resource busy
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[19:14:19] <ringos> after update?
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[19:16:01] <Bagga> dno, don't think I updated anything lately
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[19:17:00] <_JC> are they analogue or digital? (do they plug into 3.5mm jack or USB)
[19:18:37] <Bagga> 3.5mm jack into the internal soundcard
[19:18:55] <Bagga> and both the mic and the connection obviously works
[19:19:11] <Bagga> just pulseaudio is doing pulseaudio things not catching the fking sound
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[19:24:22] <_JC> I used this weird thing called port audio once. worked without issue and it was just a file in /dev like "/dev/mic"
[19:24:28] <_JC> Maybe look into that
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[19:25:38] <Bagga> I usually just run pure ALSA without a problem but haven't had time to get rid of Pulse on this computer as it is recently installed
[19:25:53] <_JC> ah
[19:25:56] <Bagga> and I figured sometime maybe Pulse will become good.... but it's just a pain :S
[19:26:05] <Bagga> works sometimes and then just dies on me :))
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[19:26:53] <_JC> doesnt it use dbus?
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[19:27:11] <Bagga> what does?
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[19:27:16] <_JC> Pulse
[19:27:32] <Bagga> think so yes, why?
[19:27:34] <ringos> i got mostly issues with alsa sometimes :(
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[19:27:55] <Bagga> ringos: so did I until I made a great conf-file for alsa
[19:28:21] <Bagga> but even if ALSA would be problematic 50% of the time, and pulse 50% of the time
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[19:28:34] <Bagga> pulse uses ALSA so you'd have problems roughly 100% of the time if you use Pulse ;))
[19:28:46] <gebruiker> strange
[19:28:51] <Bagga> almost scientific!
[19:28:54] <gebruiker> we have to use pulse and alsa?
[19:29:02] <gebruiker> alsa not enough?
[19:29:10] <Bagga> gebruiker: no one has to
[19:29:37] <gebruiker> why would one want extra baggage?
[19:29:47] <_JC> dbus is cool I just didn't know much about it
[19:30:17] <Bagga> my point exactly gebruiker, but.. things atm :))
[19:30:35] <gebruiker> oh
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[19:31:50] <_JC> I am a minimalist when it comes to linux. there isn't a need for alot of stuff so just get rid of it
[19:32:50] <Bagga> same here, but this is a temporary setup which I panicked together when my comp stopped booting
[19:32:53] <roch> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Pulseaudio-diagram.svg/1000px-Pulseaudio-diagram.svg.png
[19:32:54] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/rALZmU] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
[19:33:16] <ringos> Bagga, which kernel?
[19:33:54] <_JC> see like pulse doesn't need to use the network stack
[19:34:14] <Bagga> 44
[19:34:16] <_JC> unless you're using it
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[19:36:47] <roch> before uninstalling PA try this http://www.overclock.net/a/how-to-get-the-best-sound-with-and-properly-configure-pulseaudio
[19:36:48] <Botergos> [No short url] How to get the best sound with and properly configure PulseAudio - Overclock.net Community
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[19:38:17] <Bagga> always uninstallar PA roch ;)
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[19:42:50] <roch> Bagga, never get to sound configuring on linux before, PA changed that, 0 complaint
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[19:43:05] <gebruiker> budgie desktop seems really cool
[19:43:08] <gebruiker> anyone tried it?
[19:44:09] <Bagga> pulse fails 100% of the time for me, different computers, different sound-interfaces, different programs, ALWAYS a problem which I can't fix without removing PA
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[19:48:34] <roch> my PA usage is playback with pulseaudio-equalizer-ladspa and above tweaks so I consider it a shallow usage pattern but I never had better sound from my pc, ever ;)
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[19:51:11] <roch> so I presume PA is really needed in some bizzare situations like streaming audio over network
[19:51:45] <roch> actually I might give pure alsa a go as I just learned about alsaequal, volumeicon
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[19:52:05] <roch> hope it can mix sound from mutliple apps playing ;)
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[20:00:52] <Bagga> roch that is possible to do, but it takes some configuration, quite easy ones you know how, but not always the easiest to find that knowledge in my opinion :P
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[20:01:06] <Bagga> took me a few years to get it right without failure xD
[20:01:09] <psamim> Hi, My fresh Manjaro install does not boot!
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[20:01:30] <psamim> It says "Starting version 231"
[20:01:37] <Bagga> psamim: maybe it isn't fresh enough? no sry bad joke, and I have to go :P
[20:02:22] <psamim> usb5-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[20:02:51] <psamim> I googled and they say it's related to power, but nothing has changed since last boot!
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[20:04:56] <psamim> Manjaro does not bookt with error "usb5-1: device descriptor read/64, error -110" can someone help? Thanks
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[20:10:56] <_JC> load a rescue/boot disk and get a shell then run lsusb
[20:11:07] <_JC> see what corresponds to 5-1
[20:12:31] <vmbr1> back
[20:13:10] <vmbr1> and back to my question got thin client t5720, any idea what for I could use it
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[20:15:00] <Fingli> psamim, is there a chanse that the mouse is plugged in that usb?
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[20:20:59] <psamim> It seems the problem is with SDDM not starting.
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[20:21:47] <ringo32> my wifi dongle said that to me sometimes
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[20:25:05] <Fingli> psamim, ringo32 this problem often is coused by bad conection in usb :) try to fix th dongle firmly, check for dust, dog hair etc
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[20:25:55] <ringo32> Fingli, i gona throw that dongle away :p
[20:26:09] <ringo32> need a new one this dongle is chit i know :)
[20:26:20] <ringo32> acccident i gave mine away to my wive
[20:26:25] <ringo32> so i had herrrrrr
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[20:26:32] <ringo32> but , i gona buy a wifi card
[20:26:35] <ringo32> i think tater
[20:26:39] <ringo32> rater*
[20:26:56] <Fingli> ringo32, at least your wife is happy to have good dongle :)
[20:27:06] <ringo32> lol
[20:27:09] <Fingli> :D
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[20:27:42] <ringo32> gona by a wifi card hopefully better wifi
[20:27:48] <ringo32> have to look which one
[20:28:02] <ringo32> gona buy atleast where linux support on the package
[20:28:08] <ringo32> think the same as that dongle
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[20:47:01] <asede> guys hello i have a one question
[20:47:22] <asede> i have one conky and inside it i am using execi
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[20:47:39] <asede> but i can not give offset or goto is not effective
[20:47:49] <asede> same think for tail also
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[20:48:11] <asede> is there anyway to do that ?
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[20:49:53] <roch> ${voffset 4} Public ${alignr}${execi 3600 wget -q -O /dev/stdout http://checkip.dyndns.org/ | cut -d : -f 2- | cut -d \< -f -1}
[20:49:56] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/u8NZ4N] Current IP Check
[20:49:58] <roch> like this ?
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[20:51:39] <roch> sometimes when horizontal gap is to small it won't load,
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[20:52:08] <roch> asede, ^
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[21:00:09] <asede> sorry i was searching also at the same time but it is still not workink
[21:00:10] <asede> *working
[21:00:29] <asede> the line is
[21:00:30] <asede> ${voffset -243}${font monofur:pixelsize=15}${color ffffff}${execpi 300 gcalcli --conky --nocolor agenda "$(date)" }
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[21:01:08] <asede> i just wanna use ${offset 100} or ${goto 100}
[21:01:13] <asede> 2 of them not working
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[21:04:47] <roch> asede, U got white space before last bracket
[21:06:03] <roch> no idea. hmm
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[21:06:30] <asede> where i couldn't get it ?
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[21:11:36] <Bagga> and it works by pure magic
[21:11:48] <Bagga> didn't do shit and suddenly it all works, this is why I don't like magic
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[21:36:56] <nexos_> I tried to install manjaro, most recent image with full disk encryption. worked only after updating calamares, but does not boot/not find the volume. trying again, updating live disk again, lvm2 throws error while building vmlinuz
[21:37:38] <nexos_> http://cxg.de/_ddcdc4.htm
[21:37:39] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EPIk9Z] cxg.de - Code Exchange
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[21:49:18] <ringo32> nexos_, no encrypt in mkinitcpio?
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[22:00:16] <nexos_> encrypt is in HOOKS, I guess the installer should get that right
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[22:06:42] <stibbi> hi everbody
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[22:07:30] <ringo32> mmmm just curius , plymouth-encrypt
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[22:08:03] <ringo32> chrooted in ?
[22:11:41] <stibbi> anybody out there who has time to help me investigating a sound issue? i can't get my headphones to work even if they are working in another os (win10). they are connected by a 3.5mm jack on the front panel. i can see that headphone detection works like expected. and i even see the vu meter in pavucontrol jumping up and down while playing audio/video material. but there is no sound coming out of the headphones at all. i'm a
[22:11:41] <stibbi> little stuck as i don't know where to look anywhere else...
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[22:18:16] <nexos_> trying to chroot i: "mount: proc is already mounted or /proc busy" do i have to do anything else before arch-chroot?
[22:19:15] <ringo32> also decrypted ?
[22:19:21] <nexos_> ah typo
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[22:20:34] <manjaroDeepin> Bom noite pessoal
[22:21:07] <nexos_> now I'm chrooted
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[22:24:06] <ringo32> what is /etc/mkinitcpio.conf ?
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[22:25:37] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
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[22:28:50] <nexos_> it's there, I mounted the encrypted volume and could see the file before
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[22:30:16] <ringo32> where?
[22:30:26] <ringo32> using gist
[22:30:30] <ringo32> pacman -S gist
[22:30:38] <ringo32> you can past from terminal
[22:30:48] <ringo32> cat /etc/xxx | gist
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[22:44:16] <nexos_> <nexos_> encrypt is in HOOKS gist
[22:44:35] <nexos_> wrong window
[22:44:41] <magican> :)
[22:45:10] <nexos_> https://gist.github.com/377307a75e379f337342de7691e7cb91
[22:45:12] <ringo32> hummm
[22:45:12] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/YWlBrX] mkinitcpio.conf · GitHub
[22:45:14] <steven7> hi all, I've installed manjaro(xfce) yestarday and it configured the free bumblebee driver for me. I've installed the nonfree version with sudo mhwd -a pci nonfree 0300 but the games' reolution was always 640x480. Then I've installed nvidia and nvidia-libgl and got a black screen after reboot. I've reverted then I've tried to follow this: https://w
[22:45:15] <steven7> iki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Configure_NVIDIA_(non-free)_settings_and_load_them_on_Startup "Configure The Resolution/Refresh Rate" - got a black screen again. How can I set nvidia as the default on manjaro and avoid the black screen at login?
[22:45:15] <Botergos> [No short url] (link was unresponsive: https://w)
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[22:45:47] <ringo32> nexos_, no encrypt?
[22:46:18] <ringo32> i asume you have plymouth?
[22:46:35] <nexos_> oO I could swear I was in the mounted filesystem
[22:47:23] <ringo32> i thought if you have encrypt it should also be in the hooks i thought, and for plymouth plymouth-encrypt or something
[22:47:51] <ringo32> at your first pastebin there show on encrypt hook
[22:48:03] <ringo32> thats why issue with fsck
[22:48:08] <ringo32> no key to open the door
[22:48:16] <nexos_> yes i pasted the wrong file, i was in the livecd not in the mounted filesystem
[22:48:25] <ringo32> oh
[22:48:37] <nexos_> but the later one is the correct one
[22:48:55] <ringo32> which one ?
[22:48:56] <nexos_> if this is the problem, how could calamares not add this into mkinitcpio??
[22:49:06] <nexos_> gist one is the installed one
[22:49:59] <ringo32> from the gist i read : HOOKS="base udev autodetect modconf block filesystems keyboard fsck"
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[22:50:34] <nexos_> yes and i wonder why the manjaro installer did not add it there. i did not set it up on my own
[22:51:09] <ringo32> Manjaro got standard plymouth so it should have plymouth-encrypt
[22:51:30] <vmbr1> manjaro have plymouth o_O
[22:51:44] <ringo32> otherwise is encrypt
[22:51:53] <ringo32> personal im no encryption fan :p
[22:52:22] <ringo32> prefer a encrypted map dat could be importand
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[22:55:44] <nexos_> should i add plymouth-encrypt and encrypt? or just plymouth?
[22:56:51] <vmbr1> I just wonder but whats the point of plymouth ?
[22:56:55] <ringo32> if you use plymouth : plymouth-encrypt
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[22:58:02] <ringo32> must be added after base and udev
[22:58:18] <nexos_> if the standard installer uses plymouth, i use plymouth
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[22:58:41] <ringo32> pplymouth is for non-encrypt
[22:58:50] <ringo32> encrypt is for non plymouth
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[23:01:28] <nexos_> how do i find out what the standard installation uses?
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[23:01:59] <ringo32> encrypt is only if you dont use plymouth you need a dialog to enter the password
[23:02:36] <ringo32> in /etc/default/grub there is a splash in the kernel line
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[23:03:01] <nexos_> then i will add plymouth-encrypt after udev and try to boot the encrypted system
[23:03:18] <ringo32> dont forgeth mkinitcpio -P
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[23:08:58] <nexos_> HOOKS="base udev autodetect modconf block keyboard keymap plymouth encrypt filesystems fsck" <-- this is the real one, I cant even install gist in chroot "database for 'core' does not exist
[23:08:59] <nexos_> lol
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[23:09:24] <ringo32> plymouth-encrypt
[23:09:27] <nexos_> <- lol three times till i got it right
[23:09:34] <ringo32> not plymouth encrypt
[23:09:54] <nexos_> this is unchanged, the installer did this
[23:10:26] <ringo32> miss a - , means you get plymouth but no plymouth-dialog
[23:10:33] <ringo32> mean a dialog for pasw
[23:10:41] <nexos_> i do get the dialog
[23:10:42] <ringo32> a tty dialog
[23:10:45] <nexos_> and i did not change it
[23:10:47] <ringo32> ?
[23:10:48] <nexos_> i can type in the password
[23:11:01] <ringo32> hum with no - between it ?
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[23:11:26] <nexos_> this is the stock file
[23:11:56] <ringo32> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/plymouth#The_plymouth_hook
[23:11:57] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/NIKojQ] Plymouth - ArchWiki
[23:12:02] <ringo32> see the red
[23:12:26] <nexos_> i see
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[23:12:33] <nexos_> $ gist /mnt/crypthome/etc/mkinitcpio.conf
[23:12:33] <nexos_> https://gist.github.com/68dce36378c6bffed34c6d492ef6ecd2
[23:12:35] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/X5RiAG] mkinitcpio.conf · GitHub
[23:13:19] <ringo32> using partuuid?
[23:13:21] <ringo32> mmm
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[23:14:14] <nexos_> don't know, how do I find out? this is a stock manjaro, not booted once
[23:14:18] <nexos_> i did not change anything
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[23:14:43] <nexos_> the last time i used archlinux is some years ago, i'm not up to date
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[23:14:58] <ringo32> there is no way to 'add' the - between plymouth and encrypt as plymoyth-encrypt ?
[23:15:15] <ringo32> hehhh plymouth-encrypt
[23:15:55] <ringo32> just mount the disk to a map and as you must do then sudo systemd-nspawn
[23:15:58] <nexos_> there is, i will try but this would be a major bug in the manjaro installer
[23:16:14] <ringo32> but you must decrypt the encrypted disk
[23:16:24] <ringo32> #calamares mayby a answer
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[23:23:40] <ringo32> ?
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[23:29:12] <neyos___> Enter passphrase for hd0,msdos1 seems correct
[23:29:53] <neyos___> Entered Passws, " access denied, no such crsptodisk found, rescue mode"
[23:30:20] <neyos___> But pwd is correct, could mount it from livexd
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[23:31:46] <neyos___> Even with "plymouth-encrypt" nothing chabged
[23:32:03] <ringo32> weird installer issue i guess
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[23:40:00] <CountryfiedLinux> howdy
[23:40:08] <roch> o/
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[23:43:45] <CountryfiedLinux> new Asus C100 Chromebook here. :D
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[23:45:55] <dodgejcr> CountryfiedLinux: congrats. I had the t100 for years. They make solid netbooks
[23:45:56] <NNN> Hi all, updated system recently and i now i have no sound from my mic in several apps inscluding skype, while standard Sound Recorder and Linphone have sound from microphone
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[23:46:57] <CountryfiedLinux> dodgejcr The keyboard is small but still comfortable to type on.
[23:49:16] <CountryfiedLinux> I first made the mistake of buying the Acer Chromebook 15. The touchpad was a bit sticky and no touch screen. This Asus has a 10" screen but is a quad-core instead of a dual-core for just $50 more.
[23:49:28] <CountryfiedLinux> And Chromebooks seem to make more sense in a more compact form.
[23:49:32] <roch> does it accept manjaro ? Asus c100
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[23:50:32] <CountryfiedLinux> I dunno roch TBH I bought it for Chrome OS. I might play around with other OSes on it later though but then again my Acer laptop has Linux on it already. Xubuntu 16.10 actually.
[23:50:57] <CountryfiedLinux> The recent Manjaro ISO fails to load up. Something about a security boot error?
[23:51:22] <roch> won't You loose some keys when flipping it to tablet / stand screen mode ? :)
[23:51:31] <roch> looks very interesting
[23:51:42] <CountryfiedLinux> And won't recognize the OS in Legacy boot, and no way to shut off secure boot in UEFI, so no Manjaro on my Acer laptop until the issue is fixed. Anything I can do to help?
[23:51:46] <dodgejcr> honestly keep ChromeOS. Getting arch/manjaro/linux on the t100 was extremely difficult and was only about 80% usable
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[23:52:50] <CountryfiedLinux> No roch actually the screen folds all the way back underneath and is awkward holding it from the bottom where the keys are. And also don't see a split keyboard layout option so it's awkward.
[23:52:56] <CountryfiedLinux> But I do use the touch screen, it's nice.
[23:53:41] <roch> ty.
[23:54:22] <roch> so this is not for me device.
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[23:55:38] <CountryfiedLinux> I do pretty much everything on the web except for video production. As for everything else Chrome OS covers it all.
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[23:57:38] <steven7> hi, who can help a newbie with nvidia trouble? https://forum.manjaro.org/t/cant-configure-gpu-drivers-without-black-screen/16154
[23:57:40] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/QLocvo] Can't configure gpu drivers without black screen - Technical Issues and Assistance - Manjaro
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