January 19, 2017 
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January 19, 2017 [00:00:02] <NanoSector> I don't know what model you have (try finding out with 'lspci | grep -e 3D -e VGA')[00:00:06] <NanoSector> hi qwebirc84772[00:00:35] *** negen__ <negen__!~negen@46.166.190.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:00:39] <qwebirc84772> i have a question[00:01:12] <qwebirc84772> how can i install the all packages like when the manjaro installing fist time ?[00:01:26] <Zonos_Net> NanoSector, Its fairly old. but let me run it[00:01:29] <Zonos_Net> AMD/ATI] Turks XT [Radeon HD 6670/7670][00:01:47] <NanoSector> hmm you're out of luck for that, then, sorry[00:02:02] <NanoSector> qwebirc84772: restore your system as if it was installed freshly, you mean?[00:02:08] <Zonos_Net> Yeah, Not to worry i guess :P[00:02:13] <qwebirc84772> yes exacly[00:02:34] <qwebirc84772> bec i uninstall gnome with -Rsncd thats why i lose some other package i gues[00:02:43] <NanoSector> ouch[00:02:45] <Zonos_Net> Once again, NanoSector. Awesome help man, Can't thank you enough :) I'm off to bed ¬.¬[00:02:54] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: heh, good night :)[00:02:59] <Zonos_Net> :)[00:03:04] *** Zonos_Net <Zonos_Net!5697a661@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.151.166.97> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[00:03:37] <NanoSector> qwebirc84772: hmm, run 'sudo pacman -S gnome gnome-extra'[00:03:55] <NanoSector> qwebirc84772: that reinstalls gnome[00:04:35] <qwebirc84772> no u missunderstood i had xfce and gnome and i unistall gnome with -Rsncd i have missing programs and packages if i compare with xfce manjaro installation[00:04:43] *** arizona_shawn <arizona_shawn!~manjaro-k@wsip-98-190-138-86.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[00:04:44] <NanoSector> qwebirc84772: also, running pacman -Rc is a *very* bad idea, remove packages with 'sudo pacman -Rs [package]'[00:04:51] *** AvianY <AvianY!~AvianY@89-212-126-132.dynamic.t-2.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:05:04] *** philosopher-king <philosopher-king!~philosoph@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/philosopher-king> has joined #manjaro[00:05:04] <NanoSector> qwebirc84772: hmm, I don't know of an easy way to do that, sorry[00:05:35] <qwebirc84772> i tried to search manjaro default packages but couldn't find[00:05:43] <NanoSector> i have an idea, hang on[00:06:06] <qwebirc84772> okey i am listening[00:07:28] <NanoSector> https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-tools-iso-profiles/blob/master/official/xfce/Packages-Xfce[00:07:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/em9ONU] manjaro-tools-iso-profiles/Packages-Xfce at master · manjaro/manjaro-tools-iso-profiles · GitHub[00:08:04] <NanoSector> that's a list of packages in the Xfce live ISO[00:08:13] *** iranen <iranen!~ira@n8eiylxw07n5um41y-2.v6.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:08:23] <NanoSector> you can pick things you want to install from that[00:08:40] <qwebirc84772> that's exacly what i want thank you so much[00:08:50] <NanoSector> :D no problem[00:09:45] *** 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<astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has joined #manjaro[00:24:08] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, I left the computer[00:24:16] <BugzBunny> Went to the store[00:24:20] <roch_> I am 'resizing' my vdi disk, learnt alot ;)[00:24:28] <BugzBunny> I am back now[00:24:34] <roch_> BugzBunny, wb![00:24:35] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:ce59:831f:5df5:2c2c> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[00:24:35] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-2-97-21-248.as13285.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[00:24:35] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[00:24:35] *** Strit <Strit!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[00:24:35] *** TyrfingM1olnir <TyrfingM1olnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[00:24:35] *** jarco <jarco!~Jarco@ptr-64l20bzafuodg0zo41b.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[00:24:36] *** rhg135 <rhg135!~rhg135@unaffiliated/rhg135> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[00:24:36] *** hybridark <hybridark!~hybridark@outfirmy.jic.cz> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[00:24:36] *** dfgg <dfgg!damian@195-154-165-176.rev.poneytelecom.eu> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[00:24:42] <BugzBunny> roch_, Sweet[00:24:45] <BugzBunny> Net split[00:24:51] <BugzBunny> You are on the good side?[00:24:55] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:ce59:831f:5df5:2c2c> has joined #manjaro[00:24:55] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-2-97-21-248.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[00:24:55] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[00:24:55] *** Strit <Strit!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has joined #manjaro[00:24:55] *** TyrfingM1olnir <TyrfingM1olnir!~Tyrfing@62.92.82.250> has joined #manjaro[00:24:55] *** jarco <jarco!~Jarco@ptr-64l20bzafuodg0zo41b.18120a2.ip6.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[00:24:55] *** rhg135 <rhg135!~rhg135@unaffiliated/rhg135> has joined #manjaro[00:24:55] *** hybridark <hybridark!~hybridark@outfirmy.jic.cz> has joined #manjaro[00:24:55] *** dfgg <dfgg!damian@195-154-165-176.rev.poneytelecom.eu> has joined #manjaro[00:24:55] *** verne.freenode.net sets mode: +v Strit[00:24:58] <roch_> yes[00:25:01] <BugzBunny> xD[00:25:23] <BugzBunny> roch_, I am watching this live stream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7Gp1rlbgvs[00:25:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/CL4OIC] 2017-01-18 Trying a wire under the SMC - YouTube[00:25:30] <BugzBunny> He doing soldering and etc[00:25:34] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:25:41] <roch_> I click[00:25:57] <BugzBunny> If you log in I am in the chat[00:26:08] <roch_> I know this guy ;)[00:26:22] <BugzBunny> You do[00:26:27] <BugzBunny> I watch him time to time[00:26:31] <BugzBunny> Don't know the shit he does[00:26:32] <roch_> from YT,.[00:26:38] <roch_> same[00:26:39] <BugzBunny> but he's enjoyable to watch[00:26:45] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has joined #manjaro[00:26:48] <roch_> to winy ;)[00:26:59] <BugzBunny> Yeah[00:27:04] <BugzBunny> But he has a point[00:27:15] <BugzBunny> He has to buy and purchase[00:27:25] <BugzBunny> If I buy 1200 machine[00:27:30] <BugzBunny> It has to work right[00:28:16] <roch_> ever resized virtual disks ? tedious :D[00:28:46] *** johnvan_pc <johnvan_pc!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:29:36] <BugzBunny> lvm?[00:29:54] <roch_> ntfs :D[00:31:02] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@79-101-232-2.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:31:30] <roch_> I am trying free serva PXE to boot machines on lan, ragequited on linux method for now[00:31:34] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has joined #manjaro[00:32:28] <BugzBunny> Virtual DISKs[00:32:36] <BugzBunny> NTFS AFAIK is not virtual disk[00:32:49] <BugzBunny> So what virtual disk are you talking about?[00:33:50] *** Filth_ <Filth_!5cdd25fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.221.37.253> has joined #manjaro[00:34:01] <roch_> it's very virtual topic[00:34:04] *** Filth_ <Filth_!5cdd25fd@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.221.37.253> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:34:20] <roch_> I put XP on my virtualbox and run out of space[00:34:32] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@unaffiliated/holmeslinux> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:34:44] <roch_> XP is the best OS on earth FYI[00:35:24] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-2-97-21-248.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:35:43] <roch_> http://i.imgur.com/JJyyUYu.png[00:35:44] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/eLzRg4] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[00:38:47] *** Celmor <Celmor!~Celmor@HSI-KBW-109-193-083-069.hsi7.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has left #manjaro[00:40:33] <roch_> it's up! http://i.imgur.com/tzjqOQx.png[00:40:34] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/5zF1uj] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[00:41:48] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[00:42:57] <mystified> Hi I'm new to manjaro but not arch. I have basic understanding of using commands in wrappers like pacman yaourt pacaur.[00:43:23] <roch_> pacman is not a wrapper[00:44:22] <mystified> I have no skills in pkg build. I'm trying to install pacaur. I'm having problems installing the depend "cower" so this pkg can build[00:44:34] <hai_bar> Hi guys - has anyone tried running age of empires ii through voobly on arch?[00:45:28] <roch_> I just use yaourt .[00:45:41] <mystified> ==> Verifying source file signatures with gpg...[00:45:42] <mystified> cower-16.tar.gz ... FAILED (unknown public key 1EB2638FF56C0C53)[00:45:42] <mystified> ==> ERROR: One or more PGP signatures could not be verified![00:45:42] <mystified> ==> ERROR: Makepkg was unable to build cower.[00:45:42] <mystified> ==> Restart building cower ? [y/N][00:46:15] <roch_> U can edit makepkg[00:46:34] <mystified> Yes, I like to use yaourt as well. But some times some pkgs don't build with yaourt & will build with pacaur[00:47:00] <mystified> I don't know how to edit or make changes to the build process.[00:47:24] <roch_> or submit this error on https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/cower[00:47:25] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EwN3hq] AUR (en) - cower[00:47:30] <mystified> BTW thanks @roch_ for your assistance[00:48:07] <mystified> tried that biut will try again[00:48:18] <roch_> better wait for someone else , me to nooby[00:49:28] <BugzBunny> roch_, Watching the dame video muahahaha[00:49:47] <mystified> yaourt -S cower[00:49:54] <mystified> same error[00:49:54] <BugzBunny> OO[00:50:04] <BugzBunny> Verify with GPG?[00:50:08] <BugzBunny> Yourt?[00:50:12] <BugzBunny> You sure?[00:50:17] <mystified> how verify GPG[00:50:39] <BugzBunny> yourt AFAIK don't verify GPG[00:50:48] <BugzBunny> It verify md5 I believe[00:51:11] <BugzBunny> Maybe I did know PKGBUILD does GPG Check[00:51:43] <BugzBunny> I don't know makepkg does GPG[00:51:55] <BugzBunny> OO[00:52:18] <BugzBunny> I think maybe the file it download, using GPG as backend do MD5 Sum maybe[00:52:49] <BugzBunny> roch_, Switch to Linux!!![00:52:52] <roch_> smth. is wrong, maintainer needs to update or You judge on your own and disable file check[00:53:38] <roch_> PXE'ing windows installs on linux is bad for me, time short ;)[00:53:42] <nicklas_> or ask for updated gpg[00:53:46] *** joaojotta <joaojotta!~joaojotta@acb1-84-91-18-209.netvisao.pt> has joined #manjaro[00:54:01] <mystified> gpg --search-keys 1EB2638FF56C0C53[00:54:08] <mystified> output is[00:54:27] <mystified> Keys 1-1 of 1 for "1EB2638FF56C0C53". Enter number(s), N)ext, or Q)uit >[00:54:31] <mystified> I enterred N[00:54:50] <nicklas_> what is it you want to install? you can check aur site on the package, there might be some info on new gpg there[00:55:03] <nicklas_> if there are, just import it and it will work[00:55:09] <mystified> pacaur[00:55:20] <nicklas_> yeah, but the package is on aur[00:55:26] <nicklas_> go to aur site of the package[00:55:33] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.161.43> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:55:41] <mystified> tied thats what I'm doing[00:55:48] <nicklas_> ah[00:55:50] <nicklas_> sry[00:55:52] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:55:59] <mystified> ==> Edit PKGBUILD ? [Y/n] ("A" to abort)[00:55:59] <mystified> ==> ------------------------------------[00:55:59] <mystified> ==> p[00:55:59] <mystified> Please add $VISUAL to your environment variables[00:55:59] <mystified> for example:[00:56:00] <mystified> export VISUAL="vim" (in ~/.bashrc)[00:56:24] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@2a01:e35:8b04:c900:cdc6:4a08:9548:8662> has joined #manjaro[00:56:31] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@2a01:e35:8b04:c900:cdc6:4a08:9548:8662> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:57:07] <mystified> export VISUAL="vim"[00:57:07] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[00:57:39] <mystified> ==> Validating source files with md5sums...[00:57:39] <mystified> cower-16.tar.gz ... Passed[00:57:39] <mystified> cower-16.tar.gz.sig ... Skipped[00:57:39] <mystified> ==> Verifying source file signatures with gpg...[00:57:39] <mystified> cower-16.tar.gz ... FAILED (unknown public key 1EB2638FF56C0C53)[00:57:41] <mystified> ==> ERROR: One or more PGP signatures could not be verified![00:57:43] <mystified> ==> ERROR: Makepkg was unable to build cower.[00:57:45] <mystified> ==> Restart building cower ? [y/N][00:57:45] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:57:47] <mystified> ==> ------------------------------[01:02:35] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:04:40] *** hedgie <hedgie!~hedgie@2602:306:3144:1e10:652d:b973:841:f5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:04:43] <BugzBunny> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: AMD FX-8320E Eight-Core Processor (1.40GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (7.2 GiB Free) Swap: 6.9 GiB Total (6.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 8.8 GB / 43.7 GB (34.9 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD9x0/RX980 Host Bridge • Uptime: 1m 30s[01:04:48] <BugzBunny> I have to login twice[01:04:58] <BugzBunny> The first time, LightDM segfaults[01:05:03] <BugzBunny> >.>[01:06:44] <BugzBunny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxuHElQyIKk[01:06:46] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Mea9Rl] The Young Turks 1.18.17 - YouTube[01:07:16] *** hedgie <hedgie!~hedgie@2602:306:3144:1e10:652d:b973:841:f5> has joined #manjaro[01:07:30] <roch_> BugzBunny, U low on ram, I got this much ;p[01:08:10] <BugzBunny> What[01:08:13] <BugzBunny> Whatcha mean[01:08:18] <BugzBunny> I got 7.2 Free[01:08:21] <nicklas_> how can your system use so much ram[01:08:21] <BugzBunny> xD[01:08:22] <nicklas_> ah[01:08:27] <nicklas_> sry[01:08:28] <nicklas_> lol[01:08:30] <BugzBunny> hahahahahha[01:08:41] <BugzBunny> Hexchat sysinfo lies[01:08:50] <BugzBunny> but I have LXQT[01:09:11] <nicklas_> too bad i cant do sysinfo in pidgin[01:09:25] <BugzBunny> [lhorace_archlinux2@DESKTOP-8RF1D0U ~]$ free -m[01:09:25] <BugzBunny> total used free shared buff/cache available[01:09:25] <BugzBunny> Mem: 7885 782 6537 70 565 6801[01:09:32] <BugzBunny> I have 7GB free[01:09:37] <BugzBunny> Only 1GB used[01:10:21] <roch_> how is 480 AMDGPU on linux ?[01:11:32] <BugzBunny> redeonpro only works on some Xorg and distribution[01:11:59] <BugzBunny> but uh.. raw AMDGPU.. This is a custom kernel for HDMI AUDIO[01:12:29] <BugzBunny> The HDMI Audio support should make it 4.11, when I read[01:13:00] <roch_> betterred[01:15:06] <BugzBunny> I spend more time on windows because I want upload some video games on youtube[01:15:09] <BugzBunny> but right now[01:15:19] <BugzBunny> Music sounds better in Linux[01:16:03] *** Asix3 <Asix3!~ayoung@24-207-228-143.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[01:16:03] *** triplc <triplc!~tri@103.9.196.17> has joined #manjaro[01:16:10] <triplc> hi all[01:16:10] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:ce59:831f:5df5:2c2c> has quit IRC (Quit: I've had enough of this milarky... I'm off to do something more interesting instead...)[01:16:27] <roch_> BugzBunny, it does[01:16:27] <triplc> which (user) repo to use to get jre?[01:16:40] <Asix3> hello[01:17:29] <inahd> well i can't say i've made much progress on fn key brightness[01:18:00] <inahd> got lost in radeon-tray, trying to change my power managment.[01:18:05] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.153> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[01:19:11] <BugzBunny> inahd, The brightness problem earlier[01:19:28] <Asix3> I'm having a problem with conflicting packages / dependencies when trying to upgrade: http://pastebin.com/xDbFDbde[01:19:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ZnYtPG] looking for conflicting packages... :: calligra and calligra-braindump are in c - Pastebin.com[01:19:37] <inahd> yeah :([01:20:18] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[01:21:44] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[01:21:49] <Asix3> basically, marble and libmarble4 are in conflict, but libmarble4 is needed for libkgeomap4 -- is there a simple way to resolve this?[01:22:16] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has quit IRC (Quit: Quite)[01:23:03] <inahd> having a new computer is bittersweet.[01:23:06] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mlvijcufdbtuwefj> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[01:23:21] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:23:28] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[01:23:42] <inahd> on the bright side it has taken me into the depths of my system and taught me a bunch.[01:24:06] <BugzBunny> roch_, As far as the GPU[01:24:15] <BugzBunny> roch_, I need to find it's special spot[01:24:28] <BugzBunny> I am still learning[01:24:28] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:25:20] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[01:26:20] <roch_> must be good on win ;)[01:26:31] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[01:26:59] <BugzBunny> uhhhh[01:27:06] <BugzBunny> I OC the GPU[01:27:18] <BugzBunny> It hangs around 84-90C[01:27:20] <BugzBunny> Dude[01:27:25] <BugzBunny> Without any work[01:27:37] <BugzBunny> When I am nere my cardboard box[01:27:44] <BugzBunny> The crap is still hot[01:27:50] <BugzBunny> No work at all[01:27:56] <BugzBunny> Phew[01:28:01] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:28:03] <inahd> anyone here know about the acpi_video0?[01:28:12] <BugzBunny> I need to get a case but my next purchase is 1000w PSU[01:28:15] <rhg135> AMD bois[01:28:15] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[01:30:24] *** triplc <triplc!~tri@103.9.196.17> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[01:30:58] *** arizona_shawn <arizona_shawn!~manjaro-k@wsip-98-190-138-86.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[01:31:01] <rhg135> wait, you have a cardboard box instead of a case on am AMD box? sounds safe[01:31:49] <BugzBunny> rhg135, You didn't see my pic?[01:31:51] <BugzBunny> LOL[01:32:05] <BugzBunny> I have my MOBO, on a cardboard not box[01:32:39] <BugzBunny> I am fucking poor.. my next purchase is 1000w PSU[01:32:50] <BugzBunny> My next purchase is good case[01:32:58] <BugzBunny> But right now it's on cardboard[01:33:33] <rhg135> that's totally not a huge fire hazard :p[01:34:05] <rhg135> but it is safer than a box[01:34:10] <BugzBunny> It is fire hazard[01:34:37] <BugzBunny> But Cardboard doesn't conduct electricty thus far create an envirnment to burn[01:34:44] <BugzBunny> Now.. heat[01:34:56] <rhg135> but very flammable[01:35:05] <BugzBunny> Yes, true, no doube[01:35:23] <BugzBunny> My GPU is what run hot the most[01:35:36] <BugzBunny> But, after 6 months[01:35:55] <BugzBunny> Well, more like 4 months[01:36:03] <inahd> when i saw the gas station attendants in india, smoking cigs while surrounded by oil soaked rags, i learned that everything i was taught about safety was a lie.[01:36:27] *** arizona_shawn <arizona_shawn!~manjaro-k@wsip-98-190-138-86.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[01:36:55] <rhg135> luck isn't a substitute for prevention[01:37:05] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has joined #manjaro[01:37:08] <inahd> seems like none of the fn f key combos work on this thing[01:37:10] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:37:21] *** manjaro-jwm is now known as holmeslinux[01:37:35] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has quit IRC (Changing host)[01:37:35] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@unaffiliated/holmeslinux> has joined #manjaro[01:37:35] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v holmeslinux[01:37:35] *** LissajousPattern <LissajousPattern!~Lissajous@unaffiliated/lissajouspattern> has joined #manjaro[01:38:00] <LissajousPattern> o/[01:38:15] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, Who are you[01:38:22] <LissajousPattern> hahahaha[01:38:24] <BugzBunny> Anyone know this guy?[01:38:28] <LissajousPattern> whats up[01:38:34] <LissajousPattern> damn my bad man[01:38:49] <BugzBunny> AFAIK, we not friends LissajousPattern[01:38:50] <rhg135> I thought you did[01:38:54] <LissajousPattern> you been alright?[01:39:17] <BugzBunny> Huh?[01:39:28] <BugzBunny> I guess I've been alright[01:39:43] <LissajousPattern> word[01:39:47] * BugzBunny he reluctantly responds to LissajousPattern[01:39:53] <roch_> dear lord, I succeded, bootng real laptop on a network with virtualboxed windows XP lel[01:39:59] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has joined #manjaro[01:40:12] <LissajousPattern> dang man i didn't know you were so crushed[01:40:27] <BugzBunny> What, me crushed? Fuck Yes[01:40:34] <LissajousPattern> why?[01:40:40] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@178-190-30-64.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:41:02] <BugzBunny> I don't want fucking bullshit friends[01:41:49] <LissajousPattern> i guess that would possibly make me fucking bullshit[01:41:51] <BugzBunny> I tell you my story and how I feel[01:42:27] * BugzBunny needs to mount his NTFS drive that has his music[01:43:19] <LissajousPattern> so without me even being able to explain you just want to assume that i had some ill intent behind what i did...[01:43:23] <BugzBunny> <<< I never been an asshole but I am the fucking dick and I have to Live with that shit[01:43:23] <LissajousPattern> ok[01:43:36] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, Okay...[01:43:48] <BugzBunny> I got shit in my life that fucking makes me upset[01:43:57] <LissajousPattern> yeah i know me too[01:43:58] <BugzBunny> I ain't trying to take out on you[01:44:12] <LissajousPattern> sorry if i contributed[01:44:39] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, But come on bro, I wake up fucking bro.. shit just change.. If you didn't do it on purpose.. You can fucking dm be bro[01:44:51] <LissajousPattern> dm?[01:45:04] <BugzBunny> I don't what I see on yt[01:45:09] <BugzBunny> New Termingly[01:45:13] <BugzBunny> PVT[01:45:20] <BugzBunny> lol!!![01:45:23] <BugzBunny> >>[01:46:44] <LissajousPattern> just remember we all have different things going on and sometimes shit happens man.[01:47:46] *** chomwitt <chomwitt!~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-60-100.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[01:48:03] <LissajousPattern> besides i have been here periodically looking to talk with you but you were always away[01:48:07] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, On the next topic[01:48:10] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-073-023-041.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:48:23] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-177-172.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[01:48:29] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB14YWQCrX0&t=7400s[01:48:31] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/W6Xv6m] [Live Stream] Let's Play Far Cry 3 Episode 1 (Commentary) 1080p 60FPS - YouTube[01:48:50] <LissajousPattern> hows your new MOBO/CPU?[01:49:05] <BugzBunny> It's alright, shit I have on carboard[01:49:08] <BugzBunny> You seen the pic[01:49:14] <BugzBunny> It didn't caught fire[01:49:36] <BugzBunny> But trying to figure out the sweet spot[01:50:10] *** chomwitt4 <chomwitt4!~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-203-112.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:50:37] <LissajousPattern> looks pretty good o me[01:50:53] <BugzBunny> I had to do a few live streams to look just like that[01:51:07] <BugzBunny> But I plan do some Mafia 3 local recording and upload[01:52:02] <roch_> http://i.imgur.com/aShDm1L.png[01:52:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/HRe7L0] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[01:52:19] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, I played some singal play Arma 3[01:52:32] <LissajousPattern> what is signal play?[01:52:41] <BugzBunny> Single player sorry[01:52:48] <LissajousPattern> oh yeah cool[01:53:04] <BugzBunny> I had fucking fun alto.. I didn't know who the fuck was the enemy[01:53:09] <BugzBunny> So I died a few times[01:53:10] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~elijah@67.148.122.154> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[01:53:15] <BugzBunny> LOL[01:53:21] <LissajousPattern> yeah i have been learning a few things about takistan[01:53:53] <LissajousPattern> also tried the 64 bit beta and its pretty cool[01:53:57] <BugzBunny> When I had the money, I had plan to give you back the money bro[01:54:10] <LissajousPattern> but there are not many servers for 64 bit[01:54:14] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, You did?[01:54:19] <BugzBunny> kkk[01:54:29] <LissajousPattern> BugzBunny, dont worry about $$$[01:56:40] <LissajousPattern> man i have still been sick and am still on meds or a while so there will be time when i am just not around[01:56:42] <BugzBunny> As a Man, I don't want to owe people[01:56:53] <LissajousPattern> BugzBunny, you dont owe me[01:57:11] <LissajousPattern> it was a gift[01:57:11] <BugzBunny> Well, the way I see it, when you need 20 bucks[01:57:16] <BugzBunny> I got it[01:57:22] <LissajousPattern> thanks man[01:57:28] *** arizona_shawn <arizona_shawn!~manjaro-k@wsip-98-190-138-86.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:57:35] <BugzBunny> But tell me head of time[01:57:39] <BugzBunny> I have to budget[01:57:46] <BugzBunny> I am poor remembrer[01:57:50] <LissajousPattern> i know me too[01:58:41] <LissajousPattern> but hey dont even worry a gift as far as i am concerned is given without expecting anything in return ever[01:59:10] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, Dude, you not around is not my problem.. I am not like some ugly prostitute chasing me down the street... "I do it for a dollar"[01:59:37] <BugzBunny> I am not around in this room[01:59:54] <BugzBunny> Right now, I need to listen to music[02:00:10] *** hedgie <hedgie!~hedgie@2602:306:3144:1e10:652d:b973:841:f5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:00:19] <BugzBunny> I need to moung the drive that has my music.. I haven't put entry in my fstab[02:00:24] <BugzBunny> So I can mount easily[02:00:28] <LissajousPattern> its cool i may get up on a game after some coffee[02:00:29] *** rbatty <rbatty!~rbatty@cpe-173-88-210-175.neo.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[02:00:34] *** testnickname123 <testnickname123!~testnickn@dslb-088-078-015-042.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[02:00:40] <LissajousPattern> i need to take my meds too[02:00:56] <BugzBunny> I take depression meds every day[02:00:59] <BugzBunny> bro[02:01:03] *** testnickname123 <testnickname123!~testnickn@dslb-088-078-015-042.088.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:01:11] <LissajousPattern> this is something different[02:01:25] <LissajousPattern> i told you i was close to dying[02:01:48] <LissajousPattern> things are still a little iffy[02:02:01] <BugzBunny> I told you my story bro[02:02:06] <LissajousPattern> i know[02:02:06] <BugzBunny> But I am reading[02:02:17] <LissajousPattern> yeah NP[02:02:39] *** semeion <semeion!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has joined #manjaro[02:02:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v semeion[02:03:24] *** semeion is now known as mnemonic[02:03:26] *** scott_00_ <scott_00_!~scott@101.162.129.163> has joined #manjaro[02:03:27] <LissajousPattern> well i will be afk for however long...Peace for now[02:04:18] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, I jaming to some shit[02:04:22] <BugzBunny> enjoy the coffee[02:04:34] *** kritikk <kritikk!~stefan@92.55.92.30> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:06:26] *** MisterSea <MisterSea!~MisterSea@c-68-42-167-161.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:07:23] <BugzBunny> I need my PA EQ[02:07:57] <scott_00_> hi all[02:08:21] <BugzBunny> Wassup?[02:08:44] <scott_00_> is Deepin a serious desktop? Been using XFCE for years, but Deepin looks interesting[02:08:53] <roch_> I have 15 band PA EQ, sometimes put loudness on full ;d[02:09:34] <BugzBunny> scott_00_, Depends[02:09:48] <BugzBunny> Try the Live CD and see if you like it[02:09:55] <BugzBunny> roch_, It's 15Band here[02:09:57] *** scott_ <scott_!~scott@CPE-121-222-2-191.lnse1.cha.bigpond.net.au> has joined #manjaro[02:10:42] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[02:10:56] *** LissajousPattern <LissajousPattern!~Lissajous@unaffiliated/lissajouspattern> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:11:14] <roch_> don't forget to tweak pa daemon for 32bit fidelity ;)[02:11:23] <BugzBunny> pff[02:11:30] <BugzBunny> No need[02:11:42] <roch_> try it ;')[02:12:07] <BugzBunny> Nice PA gets me near fidelity[02:12:13] <roch_> default mixing is not good,[02:12:23] <roch_> clean ears :>[02:12:37] <BugzBunny> Change prio[02:12:42] <BugzBunny> Is all I need to do[02:13:34] *** scott_00_ <scott_00_!~scott@101.162.129.163> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[02:14:13] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pfbzndoqycxharpm> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:14:26] *** tefter <tefter!~bmaxa@c-bg-d-p1-76.bvcom.net> has joined #manjaro[02:14:26] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v tefter[02:15:14] <BugzBunny> Now to lower prio on other processes I don't need[02:15:38] <roch_> nicing makes your sound not cracking[02:16:48] *** scott_ <scott_!~scott@CPE-121-222-2-191.lnse1.cha.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:16:53] <roch_> BugzBunny, look this http://www.overclock.net/a/how-to-get-the-best-sound-with-and-properly-configure-pulseaudio[02:16:55] <Botergos> [No short url] How to get the best sound with and properly configure PulseAudio - Overclock.net Community[02:17:16] <BugzBunny> roch_, Lies[02:17:22] <roch_> ha ;[02:17:30] <BugzBunny> roch_, Nicing not makes your sound not sound muffered[02:17:46] <BugzBunny> Nicing makes your not sound muffered*[02:18:12] <BugzBunny> That's why AUDIO engineers use Realtime kernels[02:18:29] <roch_> for reacording[02:18:38] <BugzBunny> No[02:18:43] <roch_> otherwise BIG buffers always win[02:18:52] <BugzBunny> Lies[02:19:00] <roch_> heh ;)[02:19:08] <roch_> gonna prep some food[02:19:36] <BugzBunny> I've tested and I cant attest that I can hear a difference between a process with a low priority versus a process with a high priority with a degree my ear can hear it[02:21:10] <BugzBunny> With Video the drop frames, AUDIO (I haven't studied) AUDIO can drop frames.. the aspect that can make the audio sound good.. RT is not but about recording[02:21:56] <BugzBunny> It's what ear hear will sound the same, after mixing, will sound the same when then do whatever the shit they do as AUDIO Engineers[02:25:15] <roch_> nah[02:26:03] <roch_> U plug my headphones into soundcard with a jack,[02:26:24] *** hedgie <hedgie!~hedgie@2602:306:3144:1e10:652d:b973:841:f5> has joined #manjaro[02:26:24] <roch_> BugzBunny, U use hdmi / DAC ?[02:27:52] <roch_> latency of PA might play a role when Your system is very busy or U use a very low buffer[02:28:14] <roch_> less latency is bad for playbac; )[02:29:03] <roch_> well I am not audio engeneer , I can only testify my experience nad I value Yours.[02:31:20] <BugzBunny> No[02:31:56] <BugzBunny> I don't know if the MOBO has a true DAC.. but I am using the on board sound card connected to my stereo[02:32:00] <BugzBunny> Right now[02:32:06] <BugzBunny> PA EQ is not working[02:33:22] <roch_> http://i.imgur.com/6SdQIbz.png[02:33:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/EWzXMu] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[02:34:16] <roch_> BugzBunny, AUR/pulseaudio-equalizer-ladspa[02:34:33] <BugzBunny> I figure it out[02:34:41] <BugzBunny> I had the pre-amp low[02:34:57] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:35:35] <BugzBunny> What is a screenshot util?[02:35:40] <BugzBunny> Fuck LADSPA[02:35:42] <BugzBunny> I don't use it[02:35:47] <BugzBunny> You talk about latency[02:35:59] <BugzBunny> There is not consitency in Ladspa[02:36:35] <roch_> its default in xfce[02:37:02] <roch_> sometimes cracking on playback start ;)[02:37:20] <BugzBunny> Not here[02:37:28] <BugzBunny> I use, I can't tell you what it's called[02:37:30] <BugzBunny> Umm[02:37:39] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[02:37:45] <BugzBunny> Let me see what package provides the file[02:39:50] *** hedgie <hedgie!~hedgie@2602:306:3144:1e10:652d:b973:841:f5> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:39:56] <BugzBunny> [root@DESKTOP-8RF1D0U ~]# pacman -Ql pulseaudio-equalizer[02:39:56] <BugzBunny> pulseaudio-equalizer /usr/[02:39:56] <BugzBunny> pulseaudio-equalizer /usr/bin/[02:39:56] <BugzBunny> pulseaudio-equalizer /usr/bin/qpaeq[02:39:56] <BugzBunny> pulseaudio-equalizer /usr/lib/[02:39:57] <BugzBunny> pulseaudio-equalizer /usr/lib/pulse-9.0/[02:40:01] <BugzBunny> pulseaudio-equalizer /usr/lib/pulse-9.0/modules/[02:40:03] <BugzBunny> pulseaudio-equalizer /usr/lib/pulse-9.0/modules/module-equalizer-sink.so[02:40:10] <BugzBunny> No latency[02:40:46] <BugzBunny> I don't know what you mean by beffer, but like I said, I have stereo connected to comp[02:41:07] <BugzBunny> I can hear difference.. LG sterreo roch_[02:41:30] <BugzBunny> no cracking[02:41:43] <BugzBunny> But it's not very well supported AFAIK[02:42:48] *** Isaac <Isaac!~vcore@windows-denmark.cryptostorm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: read error)[02:43:02] <roch_> yes, I first went for qpaeq but read that they plan to drop support for it[02:43:14] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[02:43:48] <BugzBunny> roch_, It's not they plan, they drop support for a long time[02:44:02] <BugzBunny> But it still work for the time being[02:44:32] <BugzBunny> The author, I don't know if submits commits but it works[02:45:14] <roch_> what is required to make it work on manjaro ? :)[02:48:02] <BugzBunny> roch_, One of speakers fall of the table and knock off the plug off my PSU[02:48:16] <BugzBunny> roch_, You said something?[02:49:03] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[02:51:08] *** hedgie_mobile <hedgie_mobile!~hedgie_mo@2600:1010:b110:c18:4a3:ce80:cb71:f1c9> has joined #manjaro[02:51:13] <roch_> nope[02:52:03] <roch_> servers didn't even noticed U where disconnected :)[02:52:52] <BugzBunny> No, that's my VM[02:53:12] <BugzBunny> But between you said something and when it fail[02:53:15] <BugzBunny> fall*[02:53:22] <BugzBunny> It didn't record shit[02:53:53] <roch_> I sayed 'what is required to make it work on manjaro ?'[02:54:05] <roch_> in case I get angry at LADSPA[02:54:16] <BugzBunny> fuuuuq[02:54:32] <BugzBunny> I think there is something in AUR[02:54:44] <roch_> oh oh[02:54:51] <BugzBunny> But you need to add modules in default.pa config[02:54:58] <BugzBunny> Or whatever[02:55:43] <roch_> for PA there is only LADSPA in AUR[02:56:07] <roch_> extra/pulseaudio-equalizer[02:56:22] <roch_> this is the one U talking about[02:56:29] <BugzBunny> K[02:56:32] <BugzBunny> u find it?[02:57:33] <roch_> yup, thanks.[02:57:48] <BugzBunny> no latency[02:57:59] <BugzBunny> You can hear the changes imediately[02:58:11] <BugzBunny> You don't have to wait[03:01:40] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@195.74.249.209.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:01:46] *** hedgie_mobile <hedgie_mobile!~hedgie_mo@2600:1010:b110:c18:4a3:ce80:cb71:f1c9> has quit IRC (Quit: Mutter: www.mutterirc.com)[03:02:23] <roch_> no lag here, I got PA with default-fragments = 1 (4 is default)[03:02:23] <roch_> default-fragment-size-msec = 1 (25 is default)[03:02:35] <BugzBunny> fuck man[03:02:41] <BugzBunny> You telling shit I don't know[03:02:46] <BugzBunny> But sweet[03:03:06] <roch_> I know U know[03:03:17] <BugzBunny> I don't[03:03:24] <BugzBunny> Seriously[03:03:39] <BugzBunny> I am not a Audio or Video guy[03:03:57] <roch_> U will get there, we both will ;)[03:03:58] <BugzBunny> I had spend weeks trying to get good video quality on my video games[03:04:02] <BugzBunny> TO do research[03:04:22] <BugzBunny> So no, I don't fucking know[03:04:49] <roch_> on linux everybody is it's own sysadmin, audio engeneer, video processing expert etc. ;)[03:05:20] <roch_> that is time that went not wasted, that's what I talk to myself.[03:05:30] <BugzBunny> no latency huh?[03:05:35] <BugzBunny> Fuck LSPDA[03:05:44] <roch_> he[03:05:57] <roch_> Your type reminded me of GTA:SA :")[03:06:06] <BugzBunny> Hmmm[03:06:15] *** hedgie_mobile <hedgie_mobile!~hedgie_mo@2600:1010:b110:c18:4a3:ce80:cb71:f1c9> has joined #manjaro[03:06:29] <BugzBunny> GTA 4?[03:06:42] <roch_> played it[03:06:56] <BugzBunny> I have GTA 4 and GTA 5[03:07:01] <roch_> last gta I played was 4[03:07:06] <BugzBunny> k[03:07:25] <roch_> hey better to spend time reading manuals :D[03:07:51] <BugzBunny> Nah[03:08:11] <BugzBunny> My experience can contribute but that's as far I will go[03:08:30] <BugzBunny> Man, it sounds so good[03:08:35] <BugzBunny> mhmmm[03:08:44] <BugzBunny> roch_, I need to get a new amplifer[03:08:54] <BugzBunny> But that's for future[03:09:23] <BugzBunny> When I get tower, water cool system[03:09:30] <BugzBunny> then second GPU[03:09:50] <roch_> nice , water is silent[03:10:23] <roch_> I did water in 2003-2009[03:10:34] <BugzBunny> I have no fucking idea[03:10:41] <BugzBunny> But I will do research on it[03:10:41] <roch_> now air can be as good, and cheap[03:10:57] <roch_> sure, great journey[03:11:02] <BugzBunny> Well, I can OC my CPU, Wattage is the problem[03:11:10] <BugzBunny> But I want to OC it more[03:11:14] *** mrbinaer <mrbinaer!~mrbinaer@37.120.123.95> has joined #manjaro[03:11:16] <BugzBunny> Temp is the problem[03:12:34] *** nuuuciano_ <nuuuciano_!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[03:13:13] <roch_> valid point, I have been cured from OC'ing[03:13:49] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has joined #manjaro[03:14:12] <roch_> instead of buying the OC stuff I wait and buy new HW ;-[03:14:49] <roch_> I got a photo somewhere[03:14:55] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has quit IRC (Ping 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My old mobo[03:17:06] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:17:10] <BugzBunny> It was okay[03:17:14] <BugzBunny> This new mobo[03:17:18] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has joined #manjaro[03:17:28] <roch_> BugzBunny, https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9jBGH24k8HAfmotNFpINmdlMzdfZHI1VlI1TzhBYjBSYXdrLWxNampXQnFJdVNzSDA4NE0[03:17:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bczr22] geforce2ti_woda - Google Drive[03:18:00] *** Matombo444 <Matombo444!~Matombo@p57A3E29B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[03:18:07] <roch_> old time when HW was woth to OC ;)[03:18:14] <roch_> *worth[03:18:27] <BugzBunny> Da fuc, 'Your work is being synced to this computer so you can edit offline'[03:18:29] <BugzBunny> uhhh[03:18:32] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:18:53] <roch_> who sayed that ?! :>[03:19:21] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:19:35] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has joined #manjaro[03:19:51] <BugzBunny> Google Chrome and Google Drive[03:19:57] <BugzBunny> I figure out what I wanted[03:20:06] <BugzBunny> I wanted to enlarge the pic[03:20:39] <roch_> old photo not sharp ;c[03:20:40] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[03:21:40] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991EB6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:22:15] <roch_> water went tu CPU > GPU > NB > PSU , good closed setup. went unatended for 6 years[03:22:37] <roch_> but that geforce died super fast [;[03:23:17] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[03:23:59] *** joaojotta <joaojotta!~joaojotta@acb1-84-91-18-209.netvisao.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[03:24:08] <BugzBunny> roch_, I did research[03:24:21] *** hedgie_mobile <hedgie_mobile!~hedgie_mo@2600:1010:b110:c18:4a3:ce80:cb71:f1c9> has joined #manjaro[03:24:23] <BugzBunny> But you water cool call all that stuff?[03:24:26] <BugzBunny> Right now[03:24:27] *** hedgie_mobile <hedgie_mobile!~hedgie_mo@2600:1010:b110:c18:4a3:ce80:cb71:f1c9> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:24:37] <BugzBunny> I don't want to dessimble my gpu[03:24:43] <BugzBunny> I don't want to do that[03:24:49] <roch_> I do air only now[03:25:02] <BugzBunny> I want water cool for my CPU doh[03:25:24] <BugzBunny> I want to push the CPU to 4.8Ghz[03:25:35] <BugzBunny> It's possible[03:25:52] <BugzBunny> The GPU, I OC 1.34[03:26:01] <BugzBunny> I still messing with fan curve[03:26:08] <BugzBunny> I don't care it's loud[03:26:16] <roch_> U can buy ready cpu > heatspreader setup just for cpu[03:26:18] <BugzBunny> I just want under 80C[03:26:37] <BugzBunny> roch_, Link?[03:26:42] <roch_> wait[03:27:35] <roch_> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B9jBGH24k8HAfmotNFpINmdlMzdfZHI1VlI1TzhBYjBSYXdrLWxNampXQnFJdVNzSDA4NE0[03:27:36] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bczr22] geforce2ti_woda - Google Drive[03:27:36] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:27:52] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has joined #manjaro[03:27:53] <roch_> no , sory[03:29:16] <BugzBunny> roch_, I don't have the money right now[03:29:25] <BugzBunny> roch_, First, 1k PSU[03:29:33] <BugzBunny> Then Case[03:29:44] <BugzBunny> Then second GPU[03:29:52] <BugzBunny> Then Water Cool[03:29:59] <BugzBunny> That's a 6 month plan[03:30:03] <roch_> then PC old ;')))[03:30:08] <roch_> joking[03:30:09] *** dylan_ <dylan_!~dylan@2601:58a:102:3d45::90b1> has joined #manjaro[03:30:24] <BugzBunny> roch_, I know.. It's okay... I low end stuff for long time[03:30:34] <roch_> same[03:31:14] <BugzBunny> my objective is just 1080p@60[03:31:34] <BugzBunny> Right now, I struggle[03:32:19] *** Snake1131 <Snake1131!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has joined #manjaro[03:32:51] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:32:58] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[03:32:59] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has joined #manjaro[03:33:15] *** manjaro-jwm_ <manjaro-jwm_!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has joined #manjaro[03:33:33] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:33:51] <roch_> with two 480 U will be alright[03:34:01] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has joined #manjaro[03:35:25] <BugzBunny> For now[03:36:15] <BugzBunny> Hmmm[03:36:21] <BugzBunny> For now it's alright[03:36:39] <BugzBunny> My old mobo and cpu was bottleneck[03:37:00] <BugzBunny> So, when get 1k PSU[03:37:21] *** xnite_ <xnite_!~xnite@79.ip-144-217-94.net> has joined #manjaro[03:37:24] <BugzBunny> I can push the CPU a bit and manage thermal temps[03:37:26] *** yokel_ <yokel_!~yokel@198.98.53.118> has joined #manjaro[03:37:32] <roch_> I push 1080p@60 easily , in openarena ;)[03:37:34] <BugzBunny> With Stock Cooler[03:38:00] <BugzBunny> lol[03:38:17] <BugzBunny> In Linux huh?[03:38:44] <roch_> yes[03:39:02] <BugzBunny> openareana has servers?[03:39:08] <roch_> hehe , yea[03:40:00] <roch_> there is usually someone to play with, I like OA , strong classic feel ;)[03:40:05] <BugzBunny> Let me step out real quick.. 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<Matombo444!~Matombo@p57A3E29B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:10:19] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[04:10:23] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@187.3.60.169> has joined #manjaro[04:10:28] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has joined #manjaro[04:10:29] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.238> has joined #manjaro[04:12:29] <BugzBunny> roch_, Ummm[04:12:37] <BugzBunny> Da fuq[04:12:48] <BugzBunny> Let me compile[04:13:06] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@187.3.60.169> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[04:13:07] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.234.122.145> has joined #manjaro[04:13:36] *** johnvan_pc <johnvan_pc!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[04:14:09] <roch_> well version with sdl2 is better[04:14:46] <roch_> and it is the last wersion before next big openarena iteration, might take a while[04:16:17] <BugzBunny> so AUR has the latest version?[04:16:29] <BugzBunny> Let me compile and how it alters AUDIO[04:16:35] * BugzBunny test new CPU[04:17:00] <BugzBunny> Some latency[04:17:22] <BugzBunny> But it recovered[04:18:03] <BugzBunny> I set prio[04:18:15] <BugzBunny> Nice[04:18:27] <BugzBunny> Audio still same quality, not compiling[04:18:38] <BugzBunny> Okay, now I am compiling[04:18:42] <BugzBunny> Okay, faied[04:18:52] <BugzBunny> Looks like I need bsdtar[04:19:28] <BugzBunny> No, that error is not failure[04:19:56] <BugzBunny> It dips and then comes back up[04:20:30] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[04:20:42] <BugzBunny> 1 or 2 cores getting pinged at a time[04:20:55] <BugzBunny> Well, 1 or 2 logical cores[04:23:00] <BugzBunny> roch_, WOW[04:23:07] <BugzBunny> I am done installing openarena[04:23:14] <BugzBunny> I was expecting for it to fail[04:23:33] <BugzBunny> I have Packages (1) openarena-0.8.8-3[04:23:56] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@91-114-169-243.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[04:24:08] <BugzBunny> Let me compile firefox[04:24:10] <roch_> well done![04:24:17] <BugzBunny> I want to test CPU[04:25:03] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[04:25:13] <roch_> ioq3+oa 1.36+0.8.8_GIT_4f3ad10d-2014-02-14 client (Dec 24 2016)[04:25:32] <roch_> that's mine,[04:25:37] <BugzBunny> <roch_> well done![04:25:40] <BugzBunny> yes master[04:25:44] * BugzBunny bows[04:25:55] <roch_> pls no, I got new boots[04:25:58] <roch_> hehe[04:26:03] <BugzBunny> hahahah[04:26:14] <roch_> hey we can play tomorrow! ;)[04:26:26] <BugzBunny> Fuck no[04:26:28] <BugzBunny> man[04:26:33] <BugzBunny> I am listening to music[04:26:42] <BugzBunny> But I like to see the FPS in Linux[04:27:00] <roch_> this game can push some serious fps[04:27:07] <roch_> thousands probably ;)[04:27:16] <BugzBunny> U think?[04:27:27] <roch_> sure[04:27:44] <BugzBunny> Right now, let me compile something for the giggles[04:27:54] <BugzBunny> See if this new CPU can handle it[04:28:03] <roch_> I pushed 500fps with megamonster, pentium 200mmx and quake 1 in 2008 ;))[04:28:08] *** bllyanos <bllyanos!~bllyanos@115.178.217.205> has joined #manjaro[04:28:17] <BugzBunny> btw, we can fucking play[04:28:22] <BugzBunny> No props[04:28:42] <BugzBunny> Just saying, it wasn't my intended reason why installed it[04:28:50] <bllyanos> hi experts, i have a question please[04:29:05] <roch_> ofc, tomorrow :D[04:29:07] <BugzBunny> I am far from expernt[04:29:12] <BugzBunny> But please ask[04:29:16] <roch_> it's 04:30,[04:29:18] <bllyanos> did manjaro support amd dual graphic?[04:29:33] <bllyanos> and how about Radeon error VCE init (-22)[04:29:36] <roch_> BugzBunny, is expert on this :)[04:29:42] <bllyanos> sorry my english is bad[04:29:52] <bllyanos> oh im sorry master hahaha :D[04:30:39] <roch_> no really, He got amd cpu with apu and 480[04:30:40] <BugzBunny> When you say Dual Graphics, what are you expecting?[04:30:56] <bllyanos> mmm..[04:31:03] <bllyanos> forget aboud dual graphic[04:31:20] <bllyanos> can u solve error on boot VCE init error -22?[04:31:43] <BugzBunny> Hmm, You can't boot to a desktop?[04:31:48] <bllyanos> my Laptop graphic is AMD APU R5 and R5 M430[04:31:50] *** lixa <lixa!~lixa@135-23-142-134.cpe.pppoe.ca> has joined #manjaro[04:31:50] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[04:31:52] <bllyanos> i can[04:31:55] <bllyanos> i can boot[04:32:11] <BugzBunny> Ignore that error[04:32:21] <lixa> Hi I'm running kde 5.8.5. The Os reboots to Login screen frequently, Sais Kmsserver can't run, any clues what the issue is ?[04:32:21] <bllyanos> ohh okay[04:32:22] <BugzBunny> What is the problem?[04:32:25] <bllyanos> thanks[04:32:44] <BugzBunny> bllyanos, VCE Init is hardware Encoding[04:32:47] <bllyanos> hahaha nope bunny, thanks thanks[04:33:08] <bllyanos> hmm ya[04:33:09] <BugzBunny> It failed to Init Hardware VCE encoding[04:33:26] <roch_> gn![04:33:32] <BugzBunny> roch_, Later[04:33:37] *** roch_ <roch_!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: gn!.)[04:33:45] *** manjaro-jwm_ <manjaro-jwm_!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[04:33:47] *** MiVo <MiVo!MiVo@2600:3c01:e001:3920::2> has joined #manjaro[04:33:52] <bllyanos> ahhh i cant speak english[04:33:54] <bllyanos> hahaha[04:34:04] <bllyanos> sorry[04:34:09] <bllyanos> i understand what do u mean[04:34:16] <BugzBunny> np[04:34:18] <bllyanos> but i cant express my feeling[04:34:20] <bllyanos> hahaha[04:34:22] <bllyanos> thanks a lot[04:34:56] <BugzBunny> Np[04:35:19] <bllyanos> i love manjaro hahaha[04:35:23] <bllyanos> oh[04:35:30] <bllyanos> can i ask u again bunny?[04:35:42] <BugzBunny> I don't help to be grateful[04:35:55] <bllyanos> what if Failed to load modules kernel?[04:36:00] <BugzBunny> Or some money in return[04:36:04] <bllyanos> hhahaha[04:36:08] <BugzBunny> Or anything else[04:36:10] <bllyanos> nice[04:36:51] <bllyanos> Failed to load module kernel[04:38:33] <BugzBunny> bllyanos, Yes, my door will not unlock[04:38:51] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[04:39:05] <bllyanos> ?trigger[04:39:47] *** hedgie_mobile <hedgie_mobile!~hedgie_mo@2600:1010:b110:c18:4a3:ce80:cb71:f1c9> has joined #manjaro[04:40:38] <BugzBunny> bllyanos, My trigger, I wake up in the morning... and my penis is short :D[04:41:12] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. 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#manjaro[05:26:44] *** snypz <snypz!~lynk@c-24-131-10-188.hsd1.va.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[05:27:53] <snypz> hello all[05:32:01] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[05:35:23] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[05:35:27] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[05:35:32] *** mrbinaer <mrbinaer!~mrbinaer@37.120.123.95> has quit IRC ()[05:36:19] <sooorajjj> anyone running 4.10 kernel ?[05:36:44] *** rbatty <rbatty!~rbatty@cpe-173-88-210-175.neo.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[05:44:22] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.235.224> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[05:45:57] <BugzBunny> I don't[05:46:19] <BugzBunny> I need 4.11 for HDMI audio[05:46:28] <BugzBunny> you need 4.10 for?[05:46:40] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@36.71.168.228> has joined #manjaro[05:48:28] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.242.254.112> 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IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[06:08:17] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.234.122.145> has joined #manjaro[06:08:32] <BugzBunny> sooorajjj, Bullshit[06:09:12] <BugzBunny> sooorajjj, What is the name of the Nvidia open-source driver?[06:11:12] <sooorajjj> BugzBunny : nouveau[06:11:58] <BugzBunny> sooorajjj, Do you know how nouveau came about?[06:13:17] *** deathonater <deathonater!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has joined #manjaro[06:14:07] <sooorajjj> BugzBunny no tell me[06:14:25] <BugzBunny> I need to do that?[06:14:33] <BugzBunny> Okay[06:14:34] <BugzBunny> np[06:14:43] <BugzBunny> Once upon of time[06:14:53] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.234.122.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:15:09] <BugzBunny> There was no open source Nvidia drivers[06:15:45] <sooorajjj> meh i kow that story ,[06:15:55] *** Smeef <Smeef!~deathonat@unaffiliated/smeef> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:16:11] <BugzBunny> Then these bright little hermit decide... let us reverse engineer those cards[06:18:04] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[06:20:34] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:20:54] <BugzBunny> sooorajjj, So, while you say .. is killing it .. Do you mean proprietary drivers?[06:23:20] <sooorajjj> #me Got a laptop running nvidia 950m card and they been pushing lots of patches for nouveau in kernel as i see ,[06:24:02] <BugzBunny> Now?[06:24:09] <BugzBunny> Okay, that's a good thing[06:24:13] <sooorajjj> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/log/?h=v4.10-rc4[06:24:16] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Wcg0HW] kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree[06:24:23] <BugzBunny> Sweet[06:24:53] <BugzBunny> sooorajjj, Do you need to beet your chest like monkey ?[06:25:33] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[06:26:00] <sooorajjj> BugzBunny: why would i do that[06:26:30] <BugzBunny> Fuck the green team[06:26:35] <BugzBunny> That's why[06:32:00] <sooorajjj> BugzBunny: Green team is[06:32:02] <sooorajjj> ?[06:32:15] <BugzBunny> Nvidia[06:32:28] <BugzBunny> AMD Radeon is red team[06:32:38] <BugzBunny> Notice the colors :-p[06:32:56] <BugzBunny> Intel is Blue[06:34:30] <sooorajjj> Aye ! Bs , and more bs[06:34:51] <BugzBunny> Perhaps you haven't know[06:34:59] <BugzBunny> Google intel blue team[06:35:06] <BugzBunny> Get inform[06:35:39] <BugzBunny> While you at it, Google Graphics Great team[06:35:55] <BugzBunny> Get enlighten[06:38:29] <BugzBunny> Green*[06:38:38] <BugzBunny> Then Red Team[06:39:38] <sooorajjj> Dang i did not bring my laptop charger cord to work[06:39:40] <sooorajjj> errr[06:40:08] <sooorajjj> 11:09 am and running at 10 %[06:41:36] <BugzBunny> I am setting up my live stream[06:41:37] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[06:45:46] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@14.141.219.169> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[06:46:05] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:46:54] <dodgejcr> grrr stupid xinput[06:49:33] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@179.36.52.84> has joined #manjaro[06:50:25] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@179.36.52.84> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[06:50:30] *** Mark__T <Mark__T!~mark@foresight/developer/mark> has joined #manjaro[06:53:56] <BugzBunny> dodgejcr, dodgejcr[06:54:02] <BugzBunny> You alive![06:54:32] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooraj@122.15.16.169> has joined #manjaro[06:55:24] <Vlado9A> good morning manjaro world :)[06:55:32] <BugzBunny> I need to update OBS[06:55:33] <sooorajjj> BugzBunny, ping ping ![06:55:41] <BugzBunny> PING PING[06:56:18] <sooorajjj> back on work laptop[06:56:41] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[06:56:46] <BugzBunny> Good for you![06:57:00] <sooorajjj> yes[06:58:35] *** manjaro-web|3628 <manjaro-web|3628!49ef23be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.239.35.190> has joined #manjaro[06:58:37] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@3E91CA6A.cm-13.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[06:59:29] *** manjaro-web|3895 <manjaro-web|3895!49ef23be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.239.35.190> has joined #manjaro[07:02:12] *** drrgrr <drrgrr!~j@94.221.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es> has joined #manjaro[07:07:26] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[07:07:33] <BugzBunny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIXjb59ZgLc[07:07:35] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/JPbETf] [Live Stream] Let's Play Mafia 3 Episode 1 (Commentary) 1080p 60FPS - YouTube[07:07:42] <BugzBunny> Alright[07:07:51] <BugzBunny> Let me heat this food up real quick[07:08:12] <BugzBunny> Then I am going to be a real black guy (nigga)[07:08:14] <dodgejcr> BugzBunny: yeah Im here trying to figure out how xinput killed itself, came back to life and decided to take a shit all over itself[07:09:06] <BugzBunny> dodgejcr, Man, I am so pissed off right now.. but luckily I am not you right now muahahaha[07:09:12] <BugzBunny> I mean'[07:09:21] <BugzBunny> I would be pissed off if I was in your shoes[07:09:46] *** tripped <tripped!~trip@c-73-221-22-227.hsd1.wa.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[07:10:23] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[07:10:50] <dodgejcr> yeah for some reason. when the computer boots no problems all inputs work and show up as expected. Get the active stylus (touchscreen pen on xinput) close enough to register and bam, it gets deactivated and a new something shows up (touchscreen pen pen (0))[07:11:01] <dodgejcr> which cant be rotated or inverted at all[07:11:12] <dodgejcr> all I can do is enable/disable it[07:12:27] <dodgejcr> but since that is what the pen is working as, I cant actually rotate or invert my pen. I like to flip my laptop over and use the pen like a giant piece of paper so I can write things on but this is just 'shitting in my cereal'[07:13:35] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:499c:1704:b734:77a> has joined #manjaro[07:14:00] <BugzBunny> Tablet ARM right?[07:14:15] <dodgejcr> nah spectre x360[07:14:50] *** snypz <snypz!~lynk@c-24-131-10-188.hsd1.va.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[07:15:03] <dodgejcr> I think there was an xorg-server update which caused alot of things to conflict and have to be removed. I dont think I used xf86-input-acecad but it may have[07:15:10] *** bllyanos <bllyanos!~bllyanos@36.72.171.148> has joined #manjaro[07:15:11] <dodgejcr> else its a kernel issue but I dont think that is the problem[07:16:24] <sooorajjj> probably you use joystick things ... was removed too[07:16:43] <dodgejcr> dont use anything joystick[07:17:13] <dodgejcr> Ill update to a 4.10 and see if the kernel had anything to do with it[07:17:25] <dodgejcr> then work on xorg... I have a feeling I will be compiling all of xorg again soon[07:17:34] <BugzBunny> Well[07:17:37] <BugzBunny> dodgejcr,[07:17:50] <sooorajjj> idk why they bring up xorg again[07:17:59] <BugzBunny> Time for me enjoy my RX480 and AMD FX 8320E[07:18:11] <BugzBunny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIXjb59ZgLc[07:18:11] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/JPbETf] [Live Stream] Let's Play Mafia 3 Episode 1 (Commentary) 1080p 60FPS - YouTube[07:18:24] <dodgejcr> have fun. Just got finished playing a little just cause 2 with my son[07:19:52] <BugzBunny> obs not capturing the game[07:21:04] *** bllyanos <bllyanos!~bllyanos@36.72.171.148> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[07:22:10] <dodgejcr> hrm not a kernel issue with this thing[07:22:12] <BugzBunny> Fuck[07:22:15] <BugzBunny> I update OBS[07:22:19] <BugzBunny> It fuck shit up[07:22:23] <BugzBunny> Seriesly[07:22:25] <BugzBunny> FUCK[07:22:30] <BugzBunny> WHy did I update it[07:22:35] <BugzBunny> sigh[07:23:52] <BugzBunny> let me reboot[07:24:02] <dodgejcr> lol sounds like me right now[07:25:55] <inahd> trying to figure out how to install this radeon-tray https://github.com/StuntsPT/Radeon-tray.git[07:25:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/4Y77iy] GitHub - StuntsPT/Radeon-tray: A simple tray icon for controlling Radeon power profiles[07:26:40] *** nuuuciano_ <nuuuciano_!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[07:27:56] <dodgejcr> inahd: looks liek there is an aur package[07:28:02] <dodgejcr> so yaourt -S radeon-tray[07:28:26] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:499c:1704:b734:77a> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[07:28:37] <inahd> yeah but its less current?[07:29:30] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[07:29:35] <BugzBunny> fixed[07:29:48] <BugzBunny> alright, let me be a (nigga)[07:30:33] <inahd> also, dodgejcr i couldnt get it to work[07:30:33] <dodgejcr> inahd: use that PKGBUILD to pull latest commit[07:31:23] *** triplc <triplc!~tri@103.9.196.17> has joined #manjaro[07:31:29] <triplc> hi all[07:31:32] *** manjaro-web|3628 <manjaro-web|3628!49ef23be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.239.35.190> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[07:31:43] <inahd> dodgejcr, how exactly do i do that?[07:31:51] *** manjaro-web|3895 <manjaro-web|3895!49ef23be@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.239.35.190> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[07:32:00] <inahd> i tried git clone[07:32:02] <triplc> how to "enabled" /etc/rc.local? (i am just switch from archlinux by changing mirrorlist)[07:32:02] <dodgejcr> well the gitub only has one release, 1.1 so that AUR package is current[07:32:09] <inahd> oh[07:32:21] <dodgejcr> unless you want to do by commit[07:32:30] <dodgejcr> but I doubt there is a reason for that[07:32:34] <sooorajjj> heh , we can do that ? dodgejcr , from what i know it just jownloads a tzr gz ile and builds it[07:32:35] <inahd> in the comments they say to install from that link for some reason[07:32:37] *** drrgrr <drrgrr!~j@94.221.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[07:32:59] <inahd> more modern handling[07:33:37] <inahd> You can try to build the DPM branch (https://github.com/StuntsPT/Radeon-tray/tree/DPM) which uses the current dynpm power management method[07:33:38] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/FWhL27] (link was unresponsive: https://github.com/StuntsPT/Radeon-tray/tree/DPM))[07:33:42] <sooorajjj> you can change it to fetch a newer ile chage sha256sum , if the file needs to look in some directory , it woold need changed too[07:33:58] <dodgejcr> sooorajjj: the AUR is nothing but build scripts created by users like us. It comes in the form of a PKGBUILD. Yaourt only downloads the PKBUILD and any corresponding files that it needs to build[07:34:01] *** chomwitt1 <chomwitt1!~chomwitt@athedsl-377483.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[07:34:03] <dodgejcr> its just a fancy script really[07:34:10] <dodgejcr> triplc: are you using openrc?[07:35:03] <BugzBunny> Instead of start a new game[07:35:07] <BugzBunny> I messed up[07:35:09] <BugzBunny> Now[07:35:11] <triplc> dodgejcr: no openrc[07:35:12] <BugzBunny> I quit[07:35:20] <BugzBunny> Because you can't go back to menu[07:35:29] <BugzBunny> Bot OBS does it see it[07:35:30] <BugzBunny> sigh[07:35:32] <triplc> i was using [aur] rc-local package[07:35:34] <BugzBunny> back step 1[07:36:04] <inahd> i couldnt get radeon-tray to work right anyways, when i installed it. it couldn't change the power manager, didn't have write permission or something[07:36:19] <triplc> however, after migrating to Manjaro, rc-local [aur] conflicts with filesystem package (both has /etc/rc.local file)[07:36:27] *** chomwitt <chomwitt!~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-60-100.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[07:36:28] <dodgejcr> triplc: if you arent using openrc you dont need to have rc.local anything. Systemd (the default for arch/manjaro [most other distros]) does not use rc files for init anymore[07:36:33] <triplc> so i have to uninstall [aur] rc-local[07:36:53] <dodgejcr> ahhh that rc.local[07:37:09] <triplc> dodgejcr: well, i need /etc/rc.local to start *my* own stuff[07:37:12] <dodgejcr> disregard what I said. I thought you were talking about something else lol[07:38:00] <dodgejcr> triplc: you can install it with --force to have the new package track the files. It will overwrite it with the AUR package files[07:38:12] <inahd> then i tried installing with python, and that gave me a whole bunch of errors[07:38:44] <dodgejcr> inahd: not sure man. The github makes it seem pretty easy with the pythonX crap but yeah I hate everything python so IDK[07:38:55] <dodgejcr> and I dont have AMD GPu so I cant really test for you :/[07:39:14] <inahd> now i cant install it again from aur cause its already installed but broken[07:39:22] <inahd> whoops[07:39:43] <dodgejcr> should still be able to install from the AUR[07:39:57] <BugzBunny> 01:39:29.964: [game-capture: 'Game Capture'] attempting to hook process: mafia3.exe[07:40:07] <inahd> error: failed to commit transaction (conflicting files)[07:40:07] <inahd> radeon-tray: /usr/bin/radeontray exists in filesystem[07:40:07] <inahd> radeon-tray: /usr/bin/radeontrayserver exists in filesystem[07:40:07] <inahd> radeon-tray: /usr/lib/systemd/system/radeonpm.service exists in filesystem[07:40:44] <dodgejcr> inahd: remove the damn files[07:40:47] *** triplc <triplc!~tri@103.9.196.17> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[07:40:51] <dodgejcr> the will be replaced by the aur package[07:41:25] <BugzBunny> 01:40:48.627: [game-capture: 'Game Capture'] capture stopped[07:41:37] <inahd> running outputs: http://dpaste.com/1R0K3CS[07:41:39] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/PHKdf5] dpaste: 1R0K3CS[07:42:06] <dodgejcr> ugh python[07:42:12] <dodgejcr> this is why I hate python[07:42:20] <BugzBunny> finally[07:42:23] <BugzBunny> Fuck me[07:42:26] <inahd> heh[07:43:14] * dodgejcr looks at his wife and then back to BugzBunny... nah I'm good[07:43:43] <BugzBunny> hahahah[07:43:45] <BugzBunny> anyway[07:44:29] *** crmcrmll <crmcrmll!50b6f263@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.80.182.242.99> has joined #manjaro[07:49:15] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[07:50:01] <inahd> ok dodgejcr deleting files let me install again from aur[07:50:59] <dodgejcr> protip. Dont blindly install things... somehow I removed xf86-input-mouse, keyboard,libinput and everything else that is needed to use a computer[07:51:09] <dodgejcr> dammit[07:51:52] <inahd> program tells me i dont have permission to write to cards settings?[07:52:10] <inahd> and consult the official website![07:52:34] <dodgejcr> huh thats a new one.[07:53:11] <inahd> dodgejcr, thats good advice. only problem is.. thats practically the only reason i get anywhere..[07:53:24] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[07:53:58] <dodgejcr> yeah, this isnt good lol. I dont have ssh enabled on this laptop have to liveUSB to fix[07:54:13] <dodgejcr> man this one little problem has got me really pissed off[07:54:30] <inahd> all these little problems are a big problem[07:55:00] <dodgejcr> well, it was only one problem then I decided to force pacman to do things it didnt want to do.... my own fault really[07:55:14] <inahd> i have been fucking tweaking out on this computer for months straight trying to reverse learn the innermost workings of arch[07:55:33] <rhg135> Maybe tomorrow I'll get to use my computer[07:55:34] <dodgejcr> thats how we all learn it really[07:55:54] <dodgejcr> everything I know is from having problems and figuring out a way to fix it[07:56:06] <inahd> i really need to read linux compatability reviews before buying new hardware[07:56:19] <rhg135> Nah[07:56:30] <rhg135> Learn as you go![07:56:35] <rhg135> More fun[07:57:16] <dodgejcr> lol there are a few things seasoned linux guys tend to learn to stay away from[07:57:22] <inahd> dude i have had to mess with things i never should have seen[07:57:22] <dodgejcr> broadcom being one of them[07:57:33] <rhg135> TP Link[07:58:00] <inahd> i was all up in crda wireless crap, and hybrid graphics crap[07:58:46] <inahd> not knowing anything about anything to begin with. it is freaking frustrating stuff[07:59:34] <inahd> and i still haven't 'fixed' things enough to be satisfied[08:02:18] <inahd> now i want to bind a hotkey to the screen brightness, and get anywhere close to the intended battery life.[08:02:26] *** crmcrmll <crmcrmll!50b6f263@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.80.182.242.99> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[08:02:30] <rhg135> Lol[08:03:02] <inahd> im not greedy but 3hrs is not 10hrs[08:03:22] <rhg135> That 10h thing is not happening, even stock os[08:04:12] <inahd> well i was getting close, maybe 7 once upon a time[08:04:20] <rhg135> Unless you like to idle on low brightness with wifi off[08:05:04] <inahd> i was checking out the zenbook ux360ca has 17hr battery[08:05:47] <inahd> if it ever runs linux cleanly i will buy that thing[08:05:55] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@36.71.168.228> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[08:06:40] *** m712 is now known as trumpMoth[08:07:03] * rhg135 is skeptical[08:07:06] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.243> has joined #manjaro[08:07:33] <rhg135> x86 is a power hog[08:07:41] <inahd> hmm...[08:08:00] <rhg135> Maybe one day we'll get decent arm Linux laptops[08:08:32] <inahd> i must have the longest battery. its essential for the nomadic computer enthusiast[08:09:10] <dodgejcr> I can get 9-12 on mine pretty easy. Its probably the best I have seen in laptop that isnt a netbook or anything like that[08:09:21] <inahd> what model?[08:09:32] <dodgejcr> hp spectre x360[08:09:46] <inahd> ah yeah i am hp envy x360[08:10:03] <inahd> this thing sucks[08:10:26] <dodgejcr> lol yeah I hate hp but someone told me if you go HP you have to go top of the line so I gave them a shot[08:10:37] <dodgejcr> I love the spectre. Best laptop Ive owned[08:11:19] <inahd> maybe i can sell this one[08:11:38] <dodgejcr> lol probably. Find some college kids[08:11:41] <thid> morning[08:11:51] <inahd> someone told me hp makes good laptops these days but i guess its their high end[08:12:00] <inahd> mornin[08:12:09] <dodgejcr> it really is. Their spectre is amazing[08:12:13] <dodgejcr> outside of that, garbage[08:12:19] <thid> inahd: not rly HP and Lenovo make decent budget laptops[08:12:53] <inahd> well thid, this one sucks[08:13:05] <thid> model ?[08:13:27] <inahd> i make so many mistakes on the keyboard, and always hit the touchpad with my palm[08:13:30] <inahd> hp envy[08:13:44] <inahd> x360[08:14:22] <thid> ah those :/[08:14:22] <inahd> i think i would like the lenovo x260[08:14:30] <thid> yep totaly[08:14:37] <thid> bad choice to be onest[08:14:49] <thid> lenovo would be much better[08:15:08] <inahd> right i just couldnt find one for cheap and stuff[08:15:17] <thid> I was srsly thinking about budget laptops like 300-400$[08:15:36] <inahd> found this $300 and it had decent battery...[08:15:57] <thid> lenovo would be better[08:16:01] <dodgejcr> Say what you want, I love my spectre[08:16:10] <inahd> and a one year warranty, which i guess i voided instantly[08:16:29] <dodgejcr> why?[08:16:31] <thid> I love my lenovo g50-45 and lenovo x131e[08:16:31] <inahd> dell xps 13 seems decent[08:17:26] <inahd> oh dodgejcr you know i just assumed that.[08:17:34] <dodgejcr> installing linux doesnt void warranties[08:17:41] <dodgejcr> especially with HP[08:17:48] <inahd> staples?[08:18:01] <dodgejcr> retailer shouldnt matter[08:18:09] <dodgejcr> the warranty is from HP themselves[08:18:24] <dodgejcr> they may ask that you reinstall the factory OS but thats about it[08:18:24] <inahd> maybe[08:18:47] <inahd> can i get a copy from the factory? it would be easier to sell that way[08:19:02] <dodgejcr> idk[08:19:14] <dodgejcr> but did you kill off all the recovery stuff that came with it?[08:19:19] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fmzptasdlsxktknf> has joined #manjaro[08:19:22] <inahd> of course[08:19:24] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[08:19:25] <dodgejcr> actually better yet, did it come with windows 10?[08:19:58] <inahd> dude i got it from updated it before selling[08:20:18] <dodgejcr> huh?[08:20:23] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[08:20:36] <inahd> windows 10, from whatever[08:21:01] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[08:21:25] <inahd> i was worried it would effect the bios, i guess they are trying to lock linux out of computers[08:21:25] <dodgejcr> well if it had a legit copy of windows 10 on it, just reinstall from any windows10 usb and it will register it. The computer's hardware is marked as good to go with windows[08:21:35] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-gmegmzybexuhotnr> has joined #manjaro[08:21:37] <inahd> fun[08:21:50] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.243> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[08:21:58] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@180.245.55.253> has joined #manjaro[08:22:04] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~king1337@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:23:23] <dodgejcr> woot I got my input back on the laptop. Old fashion liveUSB and chroot goes along way[08:25:52] *** LissajousPattern <LissajousPattern!~Lissajous@unaffiliated/lissajouspattern> has joined #manjaro[08:26:09] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[08:26:46] <thid> back[08:26:57] <LissajousPattern> wb[08:29:36] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@79-101-232-2.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has joined #manjaro[08:30:17] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~king1337@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has joined #manjaro[08:30:24] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, Doing a live stream mate[08:30:40] <LissajousPattern> cool, what game?[08:31:16] <thid> perhaps its live stream from coding[08:31:29] <BugzBunny> Mafia 3[08:31:32] <rhg135> Lol[08:31:38] <thid> :/[08:31:54] <thid> tell me ur doing it at least on kvm with passthru[08:32:14] <rhg135> Shooting virtual people beats coding[08:32:21] <LissajousPattern> always[08:32:40] <thid> slashing ppl beats coding (dragon age fan)[08:33:07] <LissajousPattern> hardware hacking beats coding[08:33:11] <rhg135> I prefer more creative method[08:33:18] <inahd> rpgs are the bees knees[08:33:42] <thid> rpg ftw[08:33:55] <rhg135> Mhm[08:34:14] <inahd> deus ex was pretty progressive fusion back in the day. haven't played the new one[08:34:49] <BugzBunny> Dammit[08:34:53] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, guess what[08:35:00] <LissajousPattern> what happened?[08:35:04] <BugzBunny> I thought mice muching on cable, investigate[08:35:07] <BugzBunny> move my computer[08:35:19] <thid> on my list atm I have Torment: Tides of Numenera[08:35:23] <thid> I so wana play that[08:35:23] <BugzBunny> The power cable for my PSU is loose[08:35:29] <BugzBunny> ALL my shit shutdown[08:35:32] <LissajousPattern> oh damn[08:35:34] *** Fooguo_ <Fooguo_!~Fooguo@97-113-89-73.tukw.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[08:35:45] <BugzBunny> It's alright[08:35:51] <rhg135> I might do a coding stream tomorrow, but I'm bad[08:35:52] <BugzBunny> I didn't loose data[08:35:59] <BugzBunny> But Passthrough[08:36:02] <BugzBunny> Linux[08:36:04] <rhg135> Out of practice too[08:36:06] <BugzBunny> You kidding me[08:36:10] <BugzBunny> NO FUCKING way[08:36:36] <BugzBunny> I am not anti-windows like people who anti-semite or anti-trump[08:36:39] <BugzBunny> :-p[08:36:43] <BugzBunny> Anyway[08:36:50] <BugzBunny> Let me load all my shit up[08:37:20] *** Fooguo <Fooguo!~Fooguo@97-126-35-74.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[08:37:38] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:37:56] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, If you watching the stream... be right back muahahahahhahah[08:38:08] <LissajousPattern> word[08:38:15] <LissajousPattern> i am just chcillin[08:38:35] <LissajousPattern> i may play some arma in a little bit[08:38:42] <BugzBunny> Did I give you the link?[08:38:53] <LissajousPattern> i know your channel[08:39:20] <BugzBunny> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIXjb59ZgLc&feature=youtu.be[08:39:22] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/RWmfA6] [Live Stream] Let's Play Mafia 3 Episode 1 (Commentary) 1080p 60FPS - YouTube[08:41:26] <BugzBunny> stream backup[08:41:30] <BugzBunny> get something to drink[08:42:48] <BugzBunny> LissajousPattern, neighbors arguing again[08:42:50] <BugzBunny> pff[08:42:59] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[08:43:00] <LissajousPattern> dang[08:44:50] <LissajousPattern> wow vulkan on android[08:45:47] *** Sefran <Sefran!~manjaro-k@37.165.148.25> has joined #manjaro[08:46:19] <BugzBunny> alright, had my ICe tea[08:47:04] *** japonecka <japonecka!~ok@86.49.186.211> has joined #manjaro[08:52:24] *** manjaro-web|2551 <manjaro-web|2551!590fa6ca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.89.15.166.202> has joined #manjaro[08:53:33] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@91-114-169-243.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[08:54:21] *** hai_bar 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ZZZzzz…)[10:16:01] *** groot <groot!~groot@61.68.65.76> has joined #manjaro[10:16:06] <groot> hello everyone[10:16:09] <groot> how are you all?[10:16:13] *** robert_HfWU <robert_HfWU!~robert@193.196.133.6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:16:22] <dandyfloss> hi, i updated earlier today the big update from a couple of days ago, and i've been having an issue since then where i'm intermittently logged out suddenly[10:16:45] *** robert_HfWU <robert_HfWU!~robert@193.196.133.6> has joined #manjaro[10:17:26] *** groot <groot!~groot@61.68.65.76> has left #manjaro[10:17:33] *** groot <groot!~groot@61.68.65.76> has joined #manjaro[10:17:39] <groot> hope all is well for everyone[10:17:42] <groot> im new to Manjaro[10:18:02] <groot> dont suppose anyone could spare me a few minutes?[10:18:22] <imnofox> hey![10:19:28] <groot> hi imnofox[10:19:46] <imnofox> what do you need help with?[10:19:53] <groot> a few things imnofox[10:19:59] <groot> some basic things - embarrasingly[10:20:02] <dandyfloss> unfortunately i don't know enough about what might cause this to be able to search for answers by myself[10:20:05] <groot> ive used debian for many many years[10:20:20] <imnofox> ah cool[10:20:21] <LissajousPattern> how do i remove all files generated by wine after -Rns of the package itself?[10:20:37] <groot> yea its just a little daunting to have to relearn things that have come so natural[10:20:43] <groot> ie im already missing apt-get install[10:20:50] <groot> so much easier than packman[10:21:00] <groot> im finding something like sudo pacman -S apache2 doesnt work[10:21:03] <groot> :([10:22:03] <imnofox> the package is just called 'apache' in the manjaro repo[10:22:40] <groot> hmm fair enough[10:22:44] <groot> well i just gave that a go[10:22:57] <groot> hmm in manjaro its in /srv/www[10:23:08] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@213.83.153.19> has joined #manjaro[10:25:30] <groot> doesnt seem to be running apache[10:25:34] * groot scratches head[10:25:41] <groot> seems i have been babied by debian lol[10:26:34] <imnofox> try running # systemctl start httpd[10:26:41] <thid> systemctl enable apache[10:26:47] <thid> systemctl start apache[10:26:58] <groot> oh worked[10:27:01] <groot> thats interesting[10:27:20] *** chomwitt2 <chomwitt2!~chomwitt@athedsl-31911.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[10:27:21] <thid> not rly u do same on debian testing/ubuntu lts[10:27:26] <groot> really[10:27:39] <thid> uhm[10:27:47] <imnofox> I recall the service starts automatically on installation on debian[10:27:54] <imnofox> though dont quote me[10:28:09] <thid> not always and not all[10:28:18] <groot> yea it does imnofox[10:28:33] <groot> i usualy install apachie2 and then test the site straight away[10:28:35] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@41.46.26.136> has joined #manjaro[10:28:46] <groot> it also makes a default website[10:28:57] <thid> groot just for example u install haproxy, nginx, apache[10:29:02] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@41.46.26.136> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:29:04] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.241> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:29:06] <thid> all of them use 80[10:29:10] <groot> sweet[10:29:15] <groot> whats haproxy?[10:29:19] <thid> u rly think debian autostart them[10:29:25] <thid> it doesn't[10:29:30] <groot> yea it does[10:29:45] <groot> sudo apt-get install apachie2[10:29:55] <groot> then it just works :P[10:30:00] <thid> I have atm 40 KVMs with ubuntu 16.04 LTS and about 12 debian bare metal. Pretty much nothing autostart[10:30:02] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.241> has joined #manjaro[10:30:11] *** chomwitt1 <chomwitt1!~chomwitt@athedsl-377483.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[10:30:45] <groot> what thid , your setup must be diff to mine then lol[10:31:22] <thid> well its server setup :D[10:31:34] <groot> ohhh server yea fair enough[10:31:37] <groot> desktop auto starts[10:31:39] <thid> but anyway for future nothin autostart in manjaro/arch[10:31:46] <thid> u need to enable then start[10:32:02] <thid> idk about desktop[10:32:15] <thid> for desktop I prefere manjaro/arch :D[10:35:41] *** groot <groot!~groot@61.68.65.76> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:36:35] *** japonecka <japonecka!~ok@86.49.186.211> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:36:44] *** groot <groot!~groot@61.68.65.76> has joined #manjaro[10:36:51] <groot> manjaro crash :([10:36:53] <groot> eeek[10:37:28] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[10:37:30] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@i5DB51F20.pool.tripleplugandplay.com> has joined #manjaro[10:39:55] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.241> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:40:12] <groot> hellorw[10:40:29] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.241> has joined #manjaro[10:40:41] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[10:40:46] <imnofox> oh dear[10:40:54] <groot> yea[10:40:56] <groot> not cool[10:40:59] <groot> anywhoooo[10:41:19] <groot> ill pretend it didnt crash[10:41:23] <groot> so i dont go back to debian lol[10:41:40] <imnofox> hehe[10:41:53] <groot> its just a learning curve im sure ill be fine[10:42:20] <imnofox> definitely[10:42:20] *** LissajousPattern <LissajousPattern!~Lissajous@unaffiliated/lissajouspattern> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:43:22] <groot> yup[10:43:30] <groot> hmmm so lamp installing now ... yay :D[10:43:35] <groot> we are gettng somwhere :D[10:43:47] <groot> so you use manjaro for what imnofox ? if i may ask[10:43:59] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[10:44:55] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@i5DB51F20.pool.tripleplugandplay.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[10:45:05] <imnofox> It's just my daily desktop. No special reasons[10:45:25] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@i5DB51F20.pool.tripleplugandplay.com> has joined #manjaro[10:46:15] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@i5DB51F20.pool.tripleplugandplay.com> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:47:00] <groot> cool :)[10:47:04] <groot> im trying to use it for a server[10:47:11] <groot> but i think im going to go back to debian[10:47:19] <groot> so much more configuring for php than im used to[10:47:27] <groot> perhaps ill give it a go as a daily desktop rather than server[10:47:50] <imnofox> Yeah, I would use a debian based distro for a server over arch based[10:48:02] <groot> ok[10:48:11] <groot> thanks for being honest imnofox[10:48:16] <groot> ubuntu server?[10:48:17] <thid> same[10:48:25] <thid> as I love arch/manajro[10:48:30] <groot> ubuntu server?[10:48:36] <groot> hmmm **[10:48:36] <thid> yeah 16.04 LTS[10:48:44] <groot> lol classic[10:48:52] <thid> then u add extra repo for main nginx and other stuffs[10:48:56] <groot> i moved away from ubuntu because i dont like the cononical thing....[10:48:57] <thid> to have up to date[10:49:11] <thid> ubuntu server is like debian[10:49:12] <groot> yea[10:49:15] <thid> no gui just apt xD[10:49:19] <groot> yep lol[10:49:23] <dandyfloss> ok, that's weird. when i start chromium it doesn't display any window contents, but appears to respond to key commands[10:49:26] <groot> thats the way to do it thid[10:49:27] <thid> no diffrence other then ubuntu have newer packages[10:49:36] <groot> ok ok[10:50:05] <groot> bbs - going to install ubu 16.04 LTS server edition[10:50:14] <imnofox> dandyfloss: I dont even know how to begin debugging that[10:50:14] * groot be back soon[10:50:27] <thid> imnofox: hm?[10:50:33] <thid> debug what ?[10:50:48] <imnofox> see dandyfloss's message[10:51:04] <thid> oh[10:51:15] <thid> start chromium via terminal with -v[10:51:23] <thid> chromium -v[10:51:33] <thid> u will get logs whats going on[10:51:39] <thid> or what package it lacks[10:52:45] <dandyfloss> it just starts and doesn't indicate any errors[10:53:25] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:54:09] <imnofox> is it showing up in the app bar?[10:54:13] <groot> wish i could run manjaro on raspberrypi :D[10:54:37] <thid> groot: u can run arch[10:54:58] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooraj@122.15.16.169> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[10:55:07] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has joined #manjaro[10:55:16] <dandyfloss> yes, it is[10:55:24] <groot> what[10:55:24] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:55:32] <groot> raspi run manjaro?[10:55:35] <groot> lol ur kidding right[10:55:54] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[10:56:00] <dandyfloss> well, the panel, is that what you mean?[10:56:05] <imnofox> actually, appears you can: http://manjaro-arm.org/[10:56:07] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/F34ZzI] Manjaro Arm - Home[10:56:24] <imnofox> dandyfloss: yep, that's what I mean[10:56:35] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@213.83.153.19> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[10:56:38] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@c-68-41-65-113.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[10:57:10] <groot> what[10:57:12] <groot> this is nuts[10:57:14] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[10:57:16] <groot> manjaro on raspi :O[10:57:21] <imnofox> dandyfloss: kde or xfce?[10:57:26] *** manjaroCinnamon <manjaroCinnamon!~Manjarous@c-68-41-65-113.hsd1.mi.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:57:27] <groot> anyone done it before?[10:57:54] <dandyfloss> imnofox: openbox, though i was in xfce before and also had this problem[10:58:19] *** japonecka <japonecka!~ok@37-48-4-231.tmcz.cz> has joined #manjaro[10:58:34] <imnofox> dandyfloss: ah, never mind. I realised my suggestion was only for KDE[10:59:45] <imnofox> groot: I'll see if I can find anothe microsd card to try it out :D[10:59:49] <dandyfloss> ah, too bad. i might just leave it be for now, i have stuff to do and it's not my primary browser anyway[11:00:07] <thid> oh they finally made manajro-arm[11:00:12] <thid> gona install today :D[11:00:43] <groot> want to do it together thid ?[11:00:51] <groot> im goin gto do it in a few minutes[11:01:25] <thid> I'm ato work[11:02:02] <groot> bugger[11:02:10] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[11:02:21] *** dandyfloss <dandyfloss!~dandy@121-75-13-253.dyn.vf.net.nz> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[11:02:22] <groot> thid, you should sneak pi into work... it fits in your pocket ;)[11:02:23] <groot> lol[11:02:34] <groot> then we can linux together :D[11:03:10] <groot> ok im going to install server on this pc[11:03:14] <negen> is that a ras pi in your pocket or are you just happy to see me[11:03:15] <groot> time for groot to die :([11:03:26] <groot> both negen ![11:03:29] <groot> lol[11:03:36] <groot> ok im out of here... ill be back later i hope[11:03:41] <imnofox> seeya![11:03:44] <groot> but righ tnow. time to turn this into a ubu server[11:03:46] <groot> cya imnofox[11:03:49] <groot> thanks for your help[11:03:52] <groot> ill be back soon[11:03:53] <imnofox> no worries[11:03:54] <negen> nothing like the feeling of warm rasberry pi[11:04:04] * groot waves by to his new freinds[11:04:08] *** groot <groot!~groot@61.68.65.76> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[11:13:01] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:14:41] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[11:18:30] *** TheEXiiLE <TheEXiiLE!~manjaro-k@2001:4ca0:0:f27f:5d8f:e11f:4d74:d1bb> has joined #manjaro[11:18:36] <TheEXiiLE> hi[11:20:05] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[11:21:23] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[11:21:58] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@dhcp-19-19.cs.uit.no> has joined #manjaro[11:23:18] *** erroneousnick <erroneousnick!b014c49f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.20.196.159> has joined #manjaro[11:23:24] *** erroneousnick is now known as erroneousnickk[11:24:16] <erroneousnickk> :: Starting full system upgrade...[11:24:16] <erroneousnickk> warning: ndiswrapper-utils: local (1.61-3.0) is newer than extra (1.61-1)[11:24:16] <erroneousnickk> there is nothing to do[11:24:16] <erroneousnickk> http://pastebin.com/Q48P1gkD what do?[11:24:17] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/csC2mv] :: Starting full system upgrade... warning: ndiswrapper-utils: local (1.61-3.0) - Pastebin.com[11:25:40] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:28:06] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3511.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[11:28:55] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~king1337@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[11:29:41] *** japonecka <japonecka!~ok@37-48-4-231.tmcz.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[11:31:25] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@213.83.153.19> has joined #manjaro[11:32:24] *** TheEXiiLE <TheEXiiLE!~manjaro-k@2001:4ca0:0:f27f:5d8f:e11f:4d74:d1bb> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[11:34:59] <thid> remove ndiswrapper[11:35:54] <erroneousnickk> just that package, or the kernel modules as well?[11:36:56] <erroneousnickk> well i don't use it anyway, so fuck it. Thanks.[11:38:32] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.241> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:41:39] *** negen_ <negen_!~negen@46.166.190.167> has joined #manjaro[11:41:39] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v negen_[11:43:29] *** negen <negen!~negen@46.166.190.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[11:44:25] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@125-236-162-76.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has quit IRC ()[11:45:07] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[11:45:17] *** Vialas <Vialas!~Vialas@61.68.65.76> has joined #manjaro[11:45:21] <Vialas> hellooooooo[11:45:24] <Vialas> how we all going[11:45:25] <Vialas> yallll[11:45:27] *** japonecka <japonecka!~ok@37-48-4-231.tmcz.cz> has joined #manjaro[11:45:29] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. 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Is it possible to know all packages which will be installed "before" install manjaro XFCE?[11:53:58] <erroneousnickk> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/diff/?id=v4.10-rc4&id2=v4.10-rc3&dt=2[11:54:02] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/IsTF1y] kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git - Linux kernel source tree[11:54:14] <erroneousnickk> how long does it usually take for kernels to become available on unstable?[11:57:42] *** mandje <mandje!~mandje@2001:985:8762:1:499c:1704:b734:77a> has joined #manjaro[12:01:30] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x52716a90.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[12:02:13] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x52716a90.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:03:00] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[12:03:40] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x52716a90.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[12:05:53] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x52716a90.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:08:59] <PMunch> Hmm, where does merge: https://linux.die.net/man/1/merge come from?[12:09:02] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/YJjX0o] merge(1): three-way file merge - Linux man page[12:14:06] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[12:14:22] <thid> ?[12:14:25] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.233.141> has joined #manjaro[12:14:49] <magican> Do anyone got CorsairLink working in Linux?[12:14:58] *** Elliot_Han <Elliot_Han!244a5d9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.36.74.93.154> has joined #manjaro[12:15:50] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[12:16:43] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-189-159.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[12:16:51] *** iCarly <iCarly!~thomas@p5DC1A4AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[12:18:09] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[12:18:18] *** king1337-2 <king1337-2!~king1337@S0106f0f24967f763.vc.shawcable.net> has joined #manjaro[12:19:10] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@dhcp-19-19.cs.uit.no> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[12:19:19] *** iCarly <iCarly!~thomas@p5DC1A4AD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:19:58] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:22:04] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@212.30.199.42> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:23:39] <magican> Boys! Have I dreamed, or do Manjaros version of screenfetch also include cpu temp?[12:24:49] <erroneousnickk> dont know, i use neofetch :3[12:27:47] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[12:28:55] *** shuman <shuman!~shuman@nat-192-168-36-0-rw3.maverick.com.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[12:28:57] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[12:28:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[12:29:25] *** abnqeut <abnqeut!~abnqeut@unaffiliated/abnqeut> has joined #manjaro[12:31:09] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-092-078-246-186.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[12:31:56] <robin0800> Strit_Laptop, nice to see you problem is that "catalyst-input is not in any manjaro packages but is still called during build process[12:33:03] <Trier> Hello all. Is it possible to know all packages which will be installed "before" install manjaro 64bit with XFCE?[12:33:30] <whytrytofly> Trier, it is possible to know =)[12:33:34] <whytrytofly> do you mean to find out ^^[12:33:48] *** sponge <sponge!~sponge@77.139.140.101> has joined #manjaro[12:34:31] <Trier> whytrytofly: in manjaro site I don't find[12:34:59] <robin0800> trier thee is a package list on sourceforge where you download the iso from[12:35:30] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x52716a90.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[12:36:23] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x52716a90.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:36:26] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[12:37:18] <robin0800> Trier there is a package list on sourceforge where you download the iso from[12:37:43] <Strit_Laptop> robin0800: hm. Is this a recent change? I built ISO's the other day, and had no issues.[12:37:58] <Trier> robin0800: i don't see[12:38:39] <Trier> In sourceforge there are the iso images[12:39:15] <sponge> I'm trying to apply the latest update (I read https://manjaro.org/2017/01/17/stable-update-2017-01-14-python-xorg-ruby-gcc-inkscape/ and understood that first I need to do the update, then check for AUR packages). But it seems that I can't apply the latest update. I'm using kde and octopi and I get this message: resolving dependencies... | looking for conflicting packages... | error: unresolvable package conflicts detected | error: failed to prepare[12:39:16] <sponge> transaction (conflicting dependencies) | Command finished with errors![12:39:18] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/FoJLvC] [Stable Update] 2017-01-17 – Python, Xorg, Ruby, Gcc, Inkscape | Manjaro Linux[12:39:38] <Strit_Laptop> Trier: https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux/files/release/16.10.3/xfce/manjaro-xfce-16.10.3-stable-x86_64-pkgs.txt/download[12:39:40] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bbizmf] (not a web page, content type: application/octet-stream)[12:39:59] <robin0800> Strit_Laptop, yes but no idea from where it replace xg86-input and stops wireless keyboards and mice working[12:40:10] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@eeg51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[12:40:12] <Strit_Laptop> sponge: run "sudo pacman -Syu" and post errors?[12:40:13] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-189-159.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[12:40:31] <Strit_Laptop> Probably it's the new xorg 1.19?[12:40:41] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has joined #manjaro[12:41:12] <sponge> Strit_Laptop, hmm first it asks me "Replace calligra-filters with extra/calligra?" I will answer yes[12:41:18] <Strit_Laptop> yes[12:41:37] <sponge> Oh, now it asks "xorg-server and xf86-input-acecad are in conflict (X-ABI-XINPUT_VERSION). Remove xf86-input-acecad?"[12:41:44] <Trier> Strit_Laptop: thank you so much[12:41:44] <Strit_Laptop> again, yes.[12:42:01] *** trumpMoth is now known as theGnu[12:42:21] <robin0800> Trier, here https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux/files/release/16.10.3/xfce/[12:42:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Shrcix] Manjaro Linux - Browse /release/16.10.3/xfce at SourceForge.net[12:43:28] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-092-078-246-186.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:44:11] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-189-159.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[12:44:21] <sponge> Strit_Laptop, Ok, now it offers to do the upgrade, I will approve with a yes and report if there are any errors[12:44:54] <sponge> Why doesn't octopi offer the option to approve removing of conflict packages?[12:45:59] <Trier> robin0800: thanks anyway[12:46:12] *** Oachkatzl_ <Oachkatzl_!~Oachkatzl@91-114-169-243.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:47:19] <Strit_Laptop> Don't know. Maybe a setting somewhere about terminal emulator is not set.[12:47:29] <Strit_Laptop> I've encountered the same.[12:47:54] <sponge> ok[12:48:40] <magican> Terminal power, thoose problem never occurs =)[12:48:49] <magican> Just do some handy alias in .bashrc insted.[12:48:57] *** rudha <rudha!~rudha@h20.109.139.40.ip.windstream.net> has joined #manjaro[12:49:02] <magican> I just alt+q and write 'update'[12:49:04] <magican> done[12:49:11] <magican> probobly fast than using gui aswell :P[12:49:14] <magican> fast(er)[12:49:44] <magican> handy = alias lsorphans='sudo pacman -Qdt'[12:49:49] <magican> checking for orphans[12:50:12] <robin0800> Strit_Laptop, see here for build snippet https://forum.manjaro.org/t/catalyst-input-does-not-support-wireless-keyboards-mice/15881[12:50:13] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/C35mW1] Catalyst-input does not support wireless keyboards & mice - Manjaro Development - Manjaro[12:51:20] *** erroneousnickk <erroneousnickk!b014c49f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.176.20.196.159> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[12:51:25] <Strit_Laptop> robin0800: yeah. Is catalyst-input a package you added?[12:52:52] <magican> Thing I noticed by accident, but not the right way to sort it, my icontheme dit NOT show up in like / and when I created a new folder in my home, and only Thunar, pcmanfm etc showed it corret. Well, just rename GNOME in /etc/usr/share/icons did the trick, now my icontheme is everywhere, not gnome here and there.[12:52:53] <robin0800> Strit_Laptop, I can't find it it is not in profiles something calls it during the build process[12:52:53] *** djazz <djazz!~djazz@h-155-218.a444.priv.bahnhof.se> has left #manjaro ("WeeChat 1.6")[12:52:58] <magican> as I said, not correct way, but works ;P[12:53:16] <Strit_Laptop> It's probably a dependency of something else?[12:53:21] *** abnqeut <abnqeut!~abnqeut@unaffiliated/abnqeut> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:56:48] <robin0800> Strit_Laptop, its a dependency for catylist-server which is a dependency of catalyst-utils but hashing the last one out does not stop it[12:56:49] <Strit_Laptop> catalyst-input is the package Manjaro created to keep catalyst users updated, it supplies it's own xorg server and input devices.[12:56:59] *** manjaro_user_ <manjaro_user_!~manjaro-k@ip5f5aaed7.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[12:57:53] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[12:57:57] <Strit_Laptop> Gotta go afk, I'm at work so it's expected. :)[12:58:13] <robin0800> Strit_Laptop, thanks[12:59:43] <sponge> Is there a meaning behind pacman's parameters? Is 'y' or 'S' related to any word? What about 'yy' or 'Qi' or 'Ql'?[13:00:06] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57A3E29B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[13:01:19] <Jeannie> run man pacman in a terminal[13:02:17] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has joined #manjaro[13:03:18] *** manjaro-jwm is now known as holmeslinux[13:03:38] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has quit IRC (Changing host)[13:03:38] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@unaffiliated/holmeslinux> has joined #manjaro[13:03:38] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v holmeslinux[13:06:22] <sponge> Oh! cool! thanks Jeannie. that solves it[13:08:09] *** mmeinert <mmeinert!~mmeinert@185.104.186.167> has joined #manjaro[13:08:45] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[13:09:08] <king1337-2> hi guys been a while building a Test VM to assist if needed hope all is well[13:09:35] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3511.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[13:09:49] <Jeannie> Some issues can't be solved or reproduced in vms[13:10:05] <king1337-2> MCole i am Building a Spatry Build and i am Aware[13:10:26] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3511.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has joined #manjaro[13:10:31] <king1337-2> is he still Active at Devops with it \[13:11:41] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[13:12:01] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:12:20] *** yuta <yuta!~ippan@PPPa3511.e13.eacc.dti.ne.jp> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:12:40] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has joined #manjaro[13:13:32] <thid> yo king1337-2[13:13:41] *** japonecka <japonecka!~ok@37-48-4-231.tmcz.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[13:14:41] *** Elliot_Han <Elliot_Han!244a5d9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.36.74.93.154> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[13:15:05] *** Elliot_Han <Elliot_Han!244a5d9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.36.74.93.154> has joined #manjaro[13:15:40] *** nuuuciano_ <nuuuciano_!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[13:15:53] <magican> king1337-2: Been very silent from that man latley. Soon 1 year since last release?[13:21:28] *** chomwitt3 <chomwitt3!~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-221-204.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[13:21:38] *** Manj-1604-e20 <Manj-1604-e20!~vincenzo@151.53.146.250> has joined #manjaro[13:21:49] *** Manj-1604-e20 <Manj-1604-e20!~vincenzo@151.53.146.250> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:21:50] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[13:22:11] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@eeg51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:24:05] *** manjaro_user_ <manjaro_user_!~manjaro-k@ip5f5aaed7.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:24:38] *** chomwitt2 <chomwitt2!~chomwitt@athedsl-31911.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[13:25:35] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fmzptasdlsxktknf> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[13:25:46] *** rbatty <rbatty!~rbatty@cpe-173-88-210-175.neo.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[13:26:42] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[13:28:11] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@unaffiliated/holmeslinux> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:28:33] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has joined #manjaro[13:29:10] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:31:04] *** keevitaja <keevitaja!~keevitaja@117-39-71-217.sta.estpak.ee> has joined #manjaro[13:31:28] <keevitaja> hi guys. i think latest upgrade screwed something up. like vlc does not work anymore[13:31:55] <keevitaja> core demux error: corrupt module: /usr/lib/vlc/plugins/access/liblibbluray_plugin.so[13:32:02] <keevitaja> core interface error: corrupt module: /usr/lib/vlc/plugins/gui/libqt4_plugin.so[13:32:11] <keevitaja> core interface error: corrupt module: /usr/lib/vlc/plugins/gui/libskins2_plugin.so[13:32:21] <keevitaja> i reinstalled qt4... no effect[13:32:50] <magican> vlc 2.2.4-6 is my version, works fine. Not do a: pacman -Q | grep vlc[13:32:51] <keevitaja> also i am using xfce with paper icon theme. suddenly some panel icons are missing[13:32:52] <magican> what version u have[13:33:13] <keevitaja> VLC media player 2.2.4 Weatherwax (revision 2.2.3-37-g888b7e89)[13:33:24] *** manjaromanjaroma <manjaromanjaroma!6c30546c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.48.84.108> has joined #manjaro[13:33:53] <magican> Hm![13:33:58] *** manjaro_user_ <manjaro_user_!~manjaro-k@ip5f5aaed7.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[13:34:02] *** manjaro_user_ <manjaro_user_!~manjaro-k@ip5f5aaed7.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[13:35:33] <keevitaja> i wonder if it is another harfbuzz bug[13:35:48] <manjaromanjaroma> hello, I am currently on the live medium using mhwd-chroot to try to repair my system. googling "manjaro failed to start load kernel module" led me to think that I should maybe try linux46 which has "a bunch of ACPI fixes". however, that's not currently on the machine - it has linux44, 47, and 48. how can I get linux46 into the chrooted machine?[13:36:53] *** nick2 <nick2!~jdg@ppp121-45-243-151.lns20.per4.internode.on.net> has joined #manjaro[13:37:33] *** Trier <Trier!4f24a449@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.36.164.73> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[13:40:01] <magican> manjaromanjaroma: Well, first, mount your /dev/sda1 (or were root now is) to you /mnt/blabla (mkdir /mnt/blabla first), then chroot into that.[13:40:43] <magican> so that is check. Now ur basiclly on you dead system, so just pacman (sorry, mhwd-kernel linux49) or something, fortgot thoose specific manjaro deatils since I'm pure Arch nowadays.[13:40:49] <manjaromanjaroma> doesn't mhwd-chroot already mount everything?[13:41:24] <manjaromanjaroma> ah right, you're on pure Arch[13:41:33] <manjaromanjaroma> does it... explode less frequently? >.>[13:42:10] <manjaromanjaroma> I just revived this machine yesterday from a different boot problem haha[13:42:11] <BugzBunny> arch-chroot is sane, mhwd-chroot -- No diea what it does[13:42:15] <magican> Actually yes, for me anyway, AND i'm using testing repos, AND nvidia gtx0180[13:42:16] <BugzBunny> idea*[13:42:21] *** nick2 <nick2!~jdg@ppp121-45-243-151.lns20.per4.internode.on.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:42:22] <magican> it should fuck up alot :P[13:42:27] <magican> Try this: sudo manjaro-chroot -a[13:42:33] <magican> "It detects OS installations and allows you to auto-mount them."[13:43:40] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[13:43:44] <magican> Aaand then mhwd-kernel -i linux419 (or what version u wanna have)[13:43:58] <magican> Reboot and cross fingers =)[13:44:14] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[13:44:14] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-byjefcwexxsypodw> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[13:44:22] <manjaromanjaroma> seems similar to the other auto chroot thingy. well pacman and mhwd-kernel both say that linux46 isn't a thing yet[13:44:29] * magican running Kernel: x86_64 Linux 4.9.4-1-ARCH , 0 probs.[13:44:54] <manjaromanjaroma> should I download it on this live medium and copy it to the hard drive somewhere?[13:45:42] <magican> After u chroot it do save it on ur harddrive anyway.[13:45:59] *** wolf1 <wolf1!~xxx@ppp121-45-243-151.lns20.per4.internode.on.net> has joined #manjaro[13:46:13] <manjaromanjaroma> http://i.imgur.com/zKCcFTW.png[13:46:14] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/0GSZmG] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[13:46:43] <magican> Haha, they skiped the 4.6? Allright (?) .. take some else then =)[13:47:10] <magican> Maybe if 4.6 is the lts one.. anyway, they all should work though.[13:47:13] <manjaromanjaroma> I can choose any of those at boot, but they all have the same kernel issue[13:47:48] <manjaromanjaroma> manjaro *can* have 4.6, it's in the help thread I found ( https://forum.manjaro.org/t/failed-to-start-load-kernel-modules/3079/21 ) I just don't know how to "get it on there"[13:47:49] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/gimB7N] Failed to start Load Kernel Modules - Newbie Corner - Manjaro[13:47:59] <Jeannie> Kernel 4.6 is eol[13:48:17] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:50:51] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@68.168.114.170> has joined #manjaro[13:51:46] <NanoSector> manjaromanjaroma: why do you insist on kernel 4.6?[13:52:34] <manjaromanjaroma> it's the solution posted in that thread for Failed to start kernel module[13:52:48] <NanoSector> manjaromanjaroma: pastebin output of 'pacman -Qs linux' please[13:52:55] <NanoSector> actually[13:52:57] <Jeannie> Using a dead kernel might not be the best idea[13:52:58] <NanoSector> pacman -Qsq linux[13:53:36] <manjaromanjaroma> ok, it's running that now. I choose 4.4, 4.8, or 4.9 at boot, the very first thing that flashes by is a red FAILED for kernel something or other[13:53:50] <NanoSector> ok, but can you pastebin the output?[13:54:29] <manjaromanjaroma> yeah, it took it a bit to run that :) here it is: http://sprunge.us/CKGY[13:54:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/i84IEf] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)[13:54:35] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[13:54:59] *** BugzBunny <BugzBunny!~champ@2604:880:a:7::f9c> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3 - http://znc.in)[13:55:10] <NanoSector> hm[13:55:13] <NanoSector> that makes no sense[13:55:27] <NanoSector> manjaromanjaroma: can you try to start systemd-modules-load.service and then grab the status output of it?[13:55:32] <manjaromanjaroma> when it was running earlier today, there was a dependency conflict with updating nvidia[13:55:44] <NanoSector> sudo systemctl start systemd-modules-load.service && systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service[13:55:58] <manjaromanjaroma> Running in chroot, ignoring request.[13:56:08] <manjaromanjaroma> ^ it said that not me![13:56:17] <NanoSector> hm?[13:56:22] <NanoSector> oh you're chrooted[13:56:24] <NanoSector> nvm[13:56:30] <manjaromanjaroma> I can't start services because I'm ch... yeah![13:56:54] <NanoSector> hm[13:57:04] <NanoSector> is there any file in /etc/modprobe.d/ ?[13:57:12] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[13:57:43] *** beginner32 <beginner32!51d52a20@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.213.42.32> has joined #manjaro[13:57:45] <manjaromanjaroma> blacklist-pcspkr.conf , mhwd-gpu.conf , r8169_blacklist.conf[13:57:54] <NanoSector> what does mhwd-gpu.conf contain?[13:59:51] <manjaromanjaroma> http://sprunge.us/KPfd[13:59:52] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/92J5Jz] (not a web page, content type: text/plain)[14:00:15] <beginner32> How can i contribute manjarora[14:00:21] <NanoSector> remove the blacklist nouveau line, then you can boot your system again[14:00:25] <NanoSector> (or at least have a GUI)[14:00:29] *** keevitaja <keevitaja!~keevitaja@117-39-71-217.sta.estpak.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[14:00:44] <magican> have to try the spatry edition in a VM.[14:01:18] <NanoSector> beginner32: https://manjaro.org/ < check the Get Involved tab :)[14:01:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/SHvpZ6] Manjaro Linux[14:01:44] <NanoSector> manjaromanjaroma: I'm assuming btw you removed the nvidia drivers when it prompted you to[14:01:48] <manjaromanjaroma> ok, I'll try that, thanks Sector. when it boots, I'll try removing and installing all the nvidia stuff again, maybe I can circumvent the dependency conflict[14:02:18] <manjaromanjaroma> it's been ~2 months since I turned it on, so it had a lot to update[14:02:22] <NanoSector> yeah.[14:02:51] <NanoSector> if you still get a conflict, try getting on IRC via another device and pastebin'ing the conflict[14:03:17] <manjaromanjaroma> okdoke, thanks again[14:03:31] *** manjaromanjaroma <manjaromanjaroma!6c30546c@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.108.48.84.108> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[14:04:46] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:04:59] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@1.22.247.15> has joined #manjaro[14:05:08] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[14:05:52] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has joined #manjaro[14:07:09] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@1.22.247.15> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:09:09] *** kritikk <kritikk!~stefan@92.55.92.30> has joined #manjaro[14:09:49] *** rumflump <rumflump!~weechat@unaffiliated/olscumpy> has joined #manjaro[14:10:00] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[14:10:03] *** beginner32 <beginner32!51d52a20@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.81.213.42.32> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[14:10:31] <rumflump> NanoSector: it boots! thanks. it still gives me a big red FAILED at the start, and says to check systemctl something something for details, should I be concerned or is that ok?[14:10:53] <rumflump> I forgot to mention that I have to start xfwm4 manually for whatever reason. removing and installing nvidia drivers now[14:12:24] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF4124006EEC3293D5657EDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[14:13:04] <Jeannie> Have you checked systemctl something something?[14:13:18] <NanoSector> rumflump: nothing to be concerned about, but you can check[14:13:50] <NanoSector> rumflump: you may have to start the service before you can read its status[14:14:02] <NanoSector> i think journalctl rotates the log after it starts[14:14:27] <rumflump> it went by too fast jeanni! preeeeeeeetty sure it's kernel related since it's the very first item in the boot spam though[14:16:02] <magican> rumflump: You have a login manager? (SLIM; LDM; GDM; whatever?) .xinitrc start xfce4[14:16:12] <NanoSector> magican: xfwm4 != xfce4 :P[14:16:25] *** mm3in3rt <mm3in3rt!~mmeinert@185.104.186.172> has joined #manjaro[14:16:38] <magican> True.. ;P[14:17:14] <magican> gah. 2 hrs left of Spatry manjaro.. ADSL sux soo hard.. miss my 100mbit fiber :([14:17:29] <NanoSector> :([14:17:30] <magican> Life when u live in the forrest =)[14:17:40] <NanoSector> heh[14:17:40] *** wolf1 <wolf1!~xxx@ppp121-45-243-151.lns20.per4.internode.on.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:17:41] <rumflump> yeah, it used to auto start but I'll put that in there, thanks. I'm rusty on this machine since it's been a couple months[14:18:11] <magican> my .xinitrc = exec openbox-session[14:18:22] <NanoSector> i use sddm to start kde[14:18:37] <NanoSector> i don't think i have a .xinitrc[14:19:07] *** mmeinert <mmeinert!~mmeinert@185.104.186.167> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[14:19:34] <magican> NanoSector: Funny how stuff change, for many (not all), but I use to run KDE, compiz, all kind of stuff.. now I run openbox with a wallpaper, thats it. keyboard shortcuts to everything. Oh, a conky aswell. And spent a good few hours on getting theme right. But no eyecandy whatsoever.[14:19:43] <magican> "we all end up there sooner or later" ;P[14:19:53] <Jeannie> Never[14:20:01] <NanoSector> i like to click things[14:20:12] <Jeannie> So do I[14:20:13] <NanoSector> but i can perform system rescue if needed so *shrug*[14:20:41] <rumflump> magician: I love making .desktop launchers that run my favorite terminal commands[14:20:48] <magican> Thats why I install a VM now, go a bit crazy and try stuff.. then it can crash how much it want. VM = good sandbox =)[14:21:00] <rumflump> and xfce gets more pretty over time, not slimmer :D[14:21:19] <magican> Aye.. xfce is slowly getting something completly else :O[14:21:25] <Jeannie> xfce, pretty?[14:21:40] <NanoSector> xfce is very themeable[14:21:44] <magican> But, the desktop cube, wobble and burn is cool yes, but boring over time =)[14:21:58] <NanoSector> gotta have my kwin wobbles[14:21:59] <Jeannie> Wait until xfce is ported to gtk3[14:22:27] <Jeannie> Then easy theming will be history[14:22:41] <rumflump> xfce, pretty: https://i.redd.it/v5huyzrhc79y.gif (not mine)[14:22:43] <magican> gtk3 :( AVOID IT :D[14:22:44] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/mWcU4X] (not a web page, content type: image/gif)[14:22:50] *** Elliot_Han <Elliot_Han!244a5d9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.36.74.93.154> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[14:23:11] <Jeannie> That's pretty ugly[14:23:20] <NanoSector> rumflump: 2much4me[14:23:27] <rumflump> strokes for folks.[14:23:27] <magican> And it could be openbox aswell.. =)[14:23:55] *** Elliot_Han <Elliot_Han!244a5d9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.36.74.93.154> has joined #manjaro[14:24:01] <NanoSector> i don't like openbox[14:24:07] <magican> I didn't like openbox first, takes forever to customize and is everything but easy, but once it's done its pretty neat. And uses (as u all know) very little resources.[14:24:19] <NanoSector> :)[14:24:24] <Jeannie> Ressouces are cheap[14:24:28] <magican> pacman -S openbox xfce4-panel[14:24:54] <magican> Jeannie: Not a very big issue though, running on 6700k @ 4.6 Ghz and Nvidia gtx0180 .. But still use openbox ;P[14:25:08] <NanoSector> use what you prefer[14:25:28] <magican> Correct. or, use what u want as it's not gnome =)[14:26:00] <Jeannie> I agree to as long as it's not gnome or a wm system[14:26:14] <magican> pacman -R gnome* and Gtk3*[14:26:16] <NanoSector> i don't care what others use, as long as they're happy with their choices[14:26:18] <magican> then it's all fine![14:26:19] <rumflump> what about this Jeannie ? https://i.imgur.com/6LZMy6A.png (pure xfce, no compiz!)[14:26:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/t9AnBm] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[14:26:33] <NanoSector> Arc is overused imo[14:26:49] <Jeannie> Thats even uglier than the last one[14:26:52] <rumflump> my nemesis is numix circle[14:26:57] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has joined #manjaro[14:26:59] <magican> Nah.. dark themes ffs[14:27:22] <Jeannie> Flat design is so boring[14:27:36] <rumflump> numix circles looks so nice and neat in whiskermenu, then you try to find an icon quickly while skimming and everything is a similar circle >:([14:27:43] <magican> GTK Theme: Dusk-v3 [GTK2/3] and Icon Theme: Ultimate Edition Dark Glass[14:27:54] <magican> 5/5 toasters.[14:28:26] <Jeannie> Circular icons are made for smear devices and stubby fingers[14:28:58] <NanoSector> http://i.imgur.com/f72tYwA.png[14:28:59] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Dsq3iK] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[14:29:28] <Jeannie> Plasma 5[14:29:53] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #manjaro[14:30:10] <NanoSector> yes[14:30:33] <magican> Botergos: Not that bad at all. Like it.[14:30:37] *** Dearu <Dearu!~manjaro-k@78-189-159.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:30:48] <NanoSector> Botergos is my bot :P[14:30:53] <magican> ;P[14:31:03] <magican> However, it gets a bit to close to M$ Windows..[14:31:25] <NanoSector> i like windows's taskbar functionality[14:31:36] <NanoSector> might more to a more OS X-like approach once global menu support lands in plasma 5.9[14:31:45] <Jeannie> F*ck global menus[14:32:14] <Jeannie> If plasma 5 removes traditional menus, i'll abandon it[14:32:19] <NanoSector> it won't...[14:32:26] <NanoSector> it'll give you the option[14:33:04] <Jeannie> I only hope that that option won't be removed one day[14:33:17] <NanoSector> don't know, i'm not a fortune teller[14:33:20] <magican> http://imgur.com/a/lXAGi[14:33:21] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Rlcrqc] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[14:33:34] <magican> openbox with dark theme and iconset[14:33:42] <NanoSector> magican: not a fan, sorry[14:33:43] <magican> and my conky ofc[14:33:44] <NanoSector> :P[14:33:47] <magican> bah ![14:33:52] <NanoSector> looks like Enlightenment[14:34:09] *** manots <manots!~computer_@198.209.13.245> has joined #manjaro[14:34:15] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-092-078-246-186.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[14:34:24] <NanoSector> http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uh-ZM1LM6Qg/VB7D6EOsm0I/AAAAAAAAJ-M/QuGI9bAujHM/s1600/enlightenment-19-2.jpg[14:34:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/LH3I8I] (Page title not found or empty. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.)[14:34:29] <Jeannie> That wallpaper would drive me into insanity[14:34:33] <magican> pacman -S cairodock and everything looks spacey[14:35:36] <Jeannie> pacman -Rns cairodock would be the better command[14:35:38] <magican> All that's left is see what Jeannie runs/use ?[14:35:50] <magican> Terminal only perhaps ;P[14:35:56] <magican> without X :D[14:35:57] <Jeannie> With hidden panels or with visible panels?[14:36:50] <whytrytofly> hi[14:36:52] <NanoSector> hi[14:37:18] <whytrytofly> oha[14:37:21] <whytrytofly> enlightenment user[14:37:33] <manots> ayy[14:37:43] <Jeannie> http://imgur.com/HIZsFl6[14:37:44] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/VevQTL] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[14:38:11] <whytrytofly> thats what i call a nice desktop! http://imgur.com/a/XBMWu[14:38:12] <whytrytofly> =)[14:38:12] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/E7oXfj] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[14:38:35] *** manjaro-jwm <manjaro-jwm!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has joined #manjaro[14:38:39] <rumflump> lol whytrytofly :D[14:38:43] *** rudha <rudha!~rudha@h20.109.139.40.ip.windstream.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[14:38:45] *** manjaro-jwm is now known as holmeslinux[14:38:48] <rumflump> see, different strokes[14:38:57] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@179.217.27.247> has quit IRC (Changing host)[14:38:57] *** holmeslinux <holmeslinux!~manjaro-j@unaffiliated/holmeslinux> has joined #manjaro[14:38:57] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v holmeslinux[14:39:25] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[14:39:52] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[14:39:52] <whytrytofly> optivcally i have to admit that lxqt is very beautyful[14:39:55] <whytrytofly> just not stable enough yet[14:40:07] <thid> deepin[14:40:24] <NanoSector> i don't think lxqt is beautiful at all :x[14:40:41] <magican> Taste is like the ass, diveded. BUT - we can all agree to the awesome possiblilty to make everything just as we want. Which is the point =)[14:40:50] <NanoSector> yup[14:40:58] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@x4db3c865.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[14:41:01] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@x4db3c865.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[14:41:08] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p2003007FCF4124006EEC3293D5657EDF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[14:41:18] <mystified> hey guys can you help out with a "modprobe fuse " issue[14:41:23] <magican> Confirmed one of many mynths the other day, bought a USB wifi stick, yaourt -S realtek<whatever it was>; reboot, bam - works.[14:41:27] <mystified> trying to run etcher[14:41:29] <magican> So linux is not always a pain =)[14:41:43] <mystified> unable to run from desktop icon[14:41:44] <NanoSector> mystified: etcher is a glorified DD frontend[14:41:52] <magican> error, i mean not confirmed :P[14:42:05] <mystified> Yes it is..[14:42:15] <NanoSector> mystified: might as well use DD[14:42:16] <NanoSector> !aw dd[14:42:17] <Botergos> Dynamic DNS - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dynamic_DNS[14:42:18] <NanoSector> no[14:42:20] <mystified> and is glorified compared to other gui apps[14:42:40] <mystified> I also have better success with it than using dd command[14:42:43] <NanoSector> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/USB_flash_installation_media#In_GNU.2FLinux[14:42:44] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/4KsWuR] USB flash installation media - ArchWiki[14:42:46] <mystified> espe with iso files[14:43:00] <NanoSector> mystified: what kind of bootable usb stick are you trying to make[14:43:22] <mystified> I have 100 % success with both 1so & img files[14:43:44] <NanoSector> not my experience, but continue[14:43:57] <mystified> I just want to be able to run etcher normally[14:44:23] <mystified> If run i run from terminal it works in sudo[14:44:24] <NanoSector> start with pastebin'ing the error you get[14:44:36] <mystified> But only id I run modprobe fuse[14:44:54] *** euler <euler!~euler@ip5f5b18ba.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #manjaro[14:45:07] <mystified> it's a simple error ill just paste here[14:45:26] <NanoSector> ok[14:45:33] <mystified> etcher[14:45:33] <mystified> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first[14:45:33] <mystified> Could not mount AppImage[14:46:46] <mystified> then after running " modprobe fuse"[14:46:55] <mystified> then type etcher I get[14:46:57] <mystified> etcher[14:46:58] <mystified> fuse: device not found, try 'modprobe fuse' first[14:46:58] <mystified> Could not mount AppImage[14:47:03] <mystified> it then works[14:47:17] <NanoSector> i've no clue, i never work with imaged apps tbh[14:47:28] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[14:47:33] <mystified> thx for listerning[14:47:52] <mystified> I need to some how get modprbe to start at boot[14:48:11] <mystified> I need to some how get "modprbe Fuse" to start at boot[14:48:32] <mystified> It needs to go into some conf file[14:51:48] *** Elliot_Han <Elliot_Han!244a5d9a@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.36.74.93.154> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[14:52:35] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Quit: (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)[14:54:13] *** noy|b <noy|b!~noyfb@pa49-182-4-210.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has joined #manjaro[14:56:01] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1EC1010E920FA6A4C279.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[14:56:58] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@72.46.201.141> has joined #manjaro[14:57:55] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[14:58:27] <NanoSector> mystified: you can create a file like /etc/modprobe.d/fuse.conf and put 'fuse' in there[14:58:42] <NanoSector> that should autoload it on boot[14:59:19] <mystified> i have no tech skills[14:59:19] <manjaro-kde5-> I'm familiar with other distributions running KDE. Usually in settings under notifications there is an option to disable the busy cursor that appears when an application is launched. I have not been able to locate by Google search how to do this?[14:59:43] <mystified> i understanf how to make the file[14:59:55] <NanoSector> manjaro-kde5-: it's under Applications -> Launch Notification[14:59:57] <mystified> but unsure what command would iad[14:59:57] <NanoSector> (or something)[15:00:05] <mystified> would it be sometthing like[15:00:17] <manjaro-kde5-> NanoSector: Thank you[15:00:29] *** sponge <sponge!~sponge@77.139.140.101> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:00:41] <mystified> enable_modprobe-fuse="YES"[15:00:44] <whytrytofly> this is my partition table! is there a way to add the last (sda6) space to sad3 or sda 1 http://imgur.com/a/teqZ9[15:00:45] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/psHVIf] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[15:00:50] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[15:00:57] <NanoSector> mystified: nono[15:01:12] <NanoSector> mystified: just create the file like i mentioned, and put fuse in it[15:01:21] <NanoSector> just 'fuse' without quotes[15:01:30] <mystified> thats it[15:01:41] <mystified> nothing else[15:01:44] <NanoSector> nope[15:01:49] <manjaro-kde5-> Wow that ain't cool system settings just crashed... :-([15:01:54] <NanoSector> manjaro-kde5-: hmm?[15:02:25] <rumflump> here's another setup that Jeannie and Nano can dislike :D (this one's actually mine) https://puu.sh/trKPK/912fd51bda.png[15:02:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/hJXpMM] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[15:02:41] <rumflump> it's definitely not my final form, but it works for now[15:02:48] <manjaro-kde5-> The option to debug or report a (potential bug) disappeared before I could click an option[15:03:13] <NanoSector> rumflump: nope, don't like it :P[15:03:16] <NanoSector> manjaro-kde5-: what did you do?[15:03:26] <NanoSector> maybe i can reproduce it[15:03:37] <mystified> nano /etc/modprobe.d/fuse.conf[15:04:03] *** mm3in3rt <mm3in3rt!~mmeinert@185.104.186.172> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[15:04:26] <mystified> "fuse" thats all that was inserted without the quotes[15:04:32] <NanoSector> yup that's good[15:04:35] <manjaro-kde5-> Nothing I was just looking at the options and it just died...this is in a vm under VmWare Fusion 8.5... I gave Manjaro 2gigs of memory[15:04:47] *** kdetest <kdetest!4fc1678e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.193.103.142> has joined #manjaro[15:04:49] <NanoSector> manjaro-kde5-: can you try again? see if it keeps happening[15:04:49] <mystified> now reboot and test or just logout[15:04:54] <NanoSector> mystified: reboot[15:05:19] <mystified> :NanoSector Thanks very much[15:05:22] <mystified> Brb[15:05:25] <NanoSector> :)[15:05:32] <mystified> :)[15:05:36] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:05:55] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@213.83.153.19> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:06:02] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@72.46.201.141> has left #manjaro ("Konversation terminated!")[15:06:27] <noy|b> To add a new key is this correct gpg --recv-key <key ID>?[15:06:42] <NanoSector> yup[15:06:47] <kdetest> Hey guys! When trying to install KDE by the wiki these errors occur: error: target not found: kde error: target not found: kdeplasma-applets-plasma-nm Can somebody help me install it?[15:06:49] <noy|b> and then to trust it gpg --lsign <key ID>[15:07:04] <NanoSector> i think it's automatically trusted noy|b, try it[15:07:09] <manots> might need to specify a key-server as well[15:07:23] <NanoSector> kdetest: hey, you're trying to install kde4?[15:07:45] <NanoSector> kdetest: if you want the desktop, sudo pacman -S plasma-meta; it includes stuff like the networkmanager plasmoid[15:07:56] <NanoSector> kdetest: also, can you link to the article you're following?[15:07:57] <noy|b> And the key ID number is where it gives you the output error?[15:08:04] <NanoSector> yup[15:08:12] <noy|b> yep it trusted it automatically[15:08:20] <noy|b> see if it installs now[15:08:38] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~melray@72.46.201.141> has joined #manjaro[15:08:45] *** manjaro-kde5- is now known as MelRay[15:08:56] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[15:09:14] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[15:09:22] <MelRay> That is better...[15:09:35] <NanoSector> MelRay: hmm?[15:09:53] <kdetest> NanoSector: Wanted to install kde5, here's the article: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Install_Desktop_Environments[15:09:55] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/LMHMuX] Install Desktop Environments - Manjaro Linux[15:10:17] <NanoSector> kdetest: yeah, then install plasma-meta. also install apps like dolphin, konsole, etc, if you want them, they're not included[15:10:44] <mystified> :NanoSector No go... Failed .. It's still the same[15:10:54] <NanoSector> mystified: hmm, then i'm not sure, sorry[15:10:59] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x5271634e.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[15:11:01] <kdetest> Is there some list of apps i should install for kde to be complete, and if so, can you gimme a link?[15:11:13] <mystified> Thxs kindly for your help[15:11:15] <thid> htop, vim, irssi[15:11:23] <NanoSector> "Upon installing, you will be asked to pick a gstreamer version (phonon or vlc). Gstreamer is a multimedia framework used to handle multimedia applications (i.e. audio and video playback and editing). If you are not sure which one you should choose, pick vlc." bad advice, pick gstreamer[15:11:42] <totalkrill_> yes[15:11:49] <NanoSector> kdetest: there's a *lot* of applications for KDE[15:11:50] <NanoSector> https://www.archlinux.org/groups/x86_64/kde-applications/[15:11:51] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/SgwhYQ] Arch Linux - kde-applications (x86_64) - Group Details[15:12:10] <MelRay> Oh well can't get it to reproduce...[15:12:13] <NanoSector> I really suggest you handpick them. Dolphin (file manager), Konsole (Terminal), kate (text editor) should be a good start[15:12:38] <NanoSector> Spectacle is for screenshots, Konversation as a KDE-centric IRC client[15:13:00] <kdetest> Looks like a good kit, thanks![15:13:13] <NanoSector> Note that KDE doesn't force you to use anything[15:13:15] <MelRay> NanoSector: What is the best method to enable identd? I'm running the latest version of Manjaro KDE with all updates[15:13:30] <NanoSector> MelRay: for IRC you mean?[15:13:37] <MelRay> Yes[15:13:49] *** marco-parillo <marco-parillo!d8cb060b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.203.6.11> has joined #manjaro[15:13:52] <NanoSector> Should really check with your client, although I think you mean SASL for automatic authentication[15:14:50] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-092-078-246-186.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[15:15:25] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x5271634e.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:15:35] <NanoSector> MelRay: ah: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Identd_Setup[15:15:36] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/4vlqiv] Identd Setup - ArchWiki[15:15:48] <MelRay> NanoSector: Thanks :-)[15:18:15] *** anth <anth!~anth@213.152.180.5> has joined #manjaro[15:19:28] *** kdetest <kdetest!4fc1678e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.193.103.142> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:20:12] *** kdetest <kdetest!4fc1678e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.193.103.142> has joined #manjaro[15:20:49] *** kdetest <kdetest!4fc1678e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.193.103.142> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:21:53] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@195.142.136.17> has joined #manjaro[15:22:05] *** Mark__T <Mark__T!~mark@foresight/developer/mark> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:27:13] *** Isaac <Isaac!~vcore@windows-denmark.cryptostorm.net> has joined #manjaro[15:28:25] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:30:38] *** geek <geek!~geek@unaffiliated/geek> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[15:31:07] *** MelRay <MelRay!~melray@72.46.201.141> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:31:34] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2604:6000:ff01:3100:cc30:20cc:d45d:19e9> has joined #manjaro[15:39:36] *** kdetest <kdetest!4fc1678e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.193.103.142> has joined #manjaro[15:39:44] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[15:39:53] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[15:41:01] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p5DC4CD95.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[15:41:24] *** Condor <Condor!~condor@unaffiliated/condor> has joined #manjaro[15:41:46] <kdetest> Nanosector: Are you still there? Quite a problem here on kde, year 2000 resollution and not scalable :/[15:41:57] <NanoSector> kdetest: hmm?[15:42:25] <NanoSector> do you mean you cannot set the resolution, or that elements are too small?[15:42:52] *** GhowThriax <GhowThriax!b142e012@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.177.66.224.18> has joined #manjaro[15:42:55] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has joined #manjaro[15:43:11] <kdetest> Kde starts, but i cant jank up the res higher than 864x486[15:43:26] <NanoSector> hm[15:43:30] <NanoSector> what GPU do you have?[15:43:32] <kdetest> only that and 480p[15:43:42] <kdetest> Bumblebee nvidia dedicated[15:44:09] <NanoSector> so optimus?[15:44:10] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-092-078-246-186.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[15:44:13] <NanoSector> and Intel as primary?[15:44:17] <kdetest> right, optimus[15:44:22] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:44:49] <kdetest> and intel as primary[15:45:14] <NanoSector> hmm, what DM do you use? SDDM or lightdm?[15:45:41] <kdetest> i dont know dm even means, how do i find out which one i use?[15:45:49] <kdetest> *what dm[15:46:02] <NanoSector> systemctl status display-manager.service[15:46:05] <GhowThriax> You could help me, I install the xfce manjar but when I go to boot the pc claims that there is no system installed, what do I do?[15:46:07] <NanoSector> the first line, what does it return?[15:46:14] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@192-164-126-169.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[15:46:16] <NanoSector> GhowThriax: the boot loader didn't install properly[15:46:19] <NanoSector> !restoregrub[15:46:19] <Botergos> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Restore_the_GRUB_Bootloader[15:46:19] <whytrytofly> can someone give me a gnome-manjaro download link[15:46:21] <whytrytofly> cannot find it[15:46:23] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[15:46:55] <kdetest> NanoSector: lightdm-plymouth.service - Light Display[15:47:05] <magican> Take whatever flavour and pacman -S gnome (or if it was gnome-desktop), don't know - don't care :D[15:47:10] <GhowThriax> NanoSector: how do I do that?[15:47:15] <NanoSector> whytrytofly: https://sourceforge.net/projects/manjarolinux-community/files/release/16.10/gnome/[15:47:18] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/z3vBSR] manjarolinux-community - Browse /release/16.10/gnome at SourceForge.net[15:47:24] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:47:25] <NanoSector> magican: both work[15:47:34] <NanoSector> GhowThriax:[15:47:36] <NanoSector> !restoregrub[15:47:36] <Botergos> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Restore_the_GRUB_Bootloader[15:47:38] <NanoSector> :)[15:47:42] <NanoSector> kdetest: hmm okay[15:47:50] <NanoSector> kdetest: can you pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere?[15:48:10] *** MelRay <MelRay!~melray@72.46.201.141> has joined #manjaro[15:49:52] <kdetest> Nanosector: https://thepasteb.in/p/3lh76jDPxGQS1[15:49:53] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ROJATM] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs![15:49:56] <NanoSector> thanks[15:50:06] <MelRay> Ok so can someone help me to explain the purpose of using "export VISUAL="nano"? I followed a howto on installing google-chrome from the AUR and that was part of the process. So it exports to the nano editor, but then just prompts for yes/no and completes the install.?[15:50:09] <GhowThriax> thanks[15:50:43] <MelRay> What is actually happening on the export to the editor?[15:51:06] <NanoSector> MelRay: it sets the $VISUAL variable to nano[15:51:10] <NanoSector> not sure what $VISUAL is[15:51:16] <NanoSector> kdetest: ok, so[15:51:17] <NanoSector> [ 12.048] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0 145.00 1920 1968 2068 2110 1080 1083 1084 1140 -hsync -vsync (68.7 kHz eP)[15:51:19] <NanoSector> [ 30.374] (II) intel(0): switch to mode 864x486 at 60 dot 0 on eDP1 using pipe 0, position (0, 0), rotation normal, reflection none[15:51:25] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x2f7fc3b.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[15:51:39] <kdetest> Nanosector: paste it in?[15:51:40] <NanoSector> kdetest: does your laptop screen go up to 1080p?[15:51:43] <MelRay> NanoSector: Ok thanks...[15:51:48] <kdetest> Nanosector: Yes[15:51:50] <NanoSector> kdetest: nope, was just citing your log[15:52:00] <NanoSector> hang on[15:53:35] <NanoSector> kdetest: can you run 'xrandr --output eDP1 --mode 1920x1080' in a terminal?[15:54:00] <NanoSector> kdetest: this should temporarily change your mode (resolution) to 1920x1080[15:54:23] <kdetest> NanoSector: Cannot find mode[15:54:24] *** GhowThriax <GhowThriax!b142e012@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.177.66.224.18> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:54:28] <NanoSector> kdetest: hmm okay[15:54:30] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[15:55:31] <NanoSector> kdetest: anything special about this screen, btw? e.g. is it not a 60 Hz screen?[15:56:15] <kdetest> I think a usual one, let me check real quick[15:57:30] <NanoSector> kdetest: it does detect something with 1080p but it's not listing a refresh rate[15:58:13] <NanoSector> kdetest: actually, if you have xf86-video-intel installed, remove it and reboot; this might fix the issue[15:58:41] <kdetest> NanoSector: the command would be?[15:58:49] <NanoSector> kdetest: sudo pacman -Rns xf86-video-intel[15:59:03] <kdetest> and then -S to install, correct?[15:59:17] <NanoSector> the Intel DDX driver is setting the resolution of 864x486[15:59:18] <NanoSector> [ 31.586] (II) intel(0): resizing framebuffer to 864x486[15:59:20] <NanoSector> yeah, -S to install[15:59:40] <NanoSector> so if we remove the Intel DDX driver and use the 'generic' modesetting driver, it shouldn't do this (modesetting has about the same performance as Intel)[15:59:46] <kdetest> ok, reinstalled it[15:59:54] <kdetest> what next[16:00:02] <NanoSector> nono, jsut remove it[16:00:17] <kdetest> ok removed it again[16:00:24] <NanoSector> then try a reboot[16:00:36] <kdetest> k, brb[16:00:40] <whytrytofly> thx NanoSector[16:00:51] <NanoSector> :)[16:00:51] *** kdetest <kdetest!4fc1678e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.193.103.142> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[16:02:41] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[16:03:13] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@eeg51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[16:04:06] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@165.169.224.24> has joined #manjaro[16:04:06] *** the-cure <the-cure!~chatzilla@93.190.93.96> has joined #manjaro[16:04:06] *** void9 <void9!~smuxi@89.37.112.221> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[16:04:21] *** manots <manots!~computer_@198.209.13.245> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:05:00] *** MelRay <MelRay!~melray@72.46.201.141> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:05:24] *** kdetest <kdetest!4fc1678e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.193.103.142> has joined #manjaro[16:05:59] <kdetest> Nanosector: I sit in front of a blackscreen now[16:07:27] <kdetest> NanoSector:[16:09:29] *** kdetest <kdetest!4fc1678e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.79.193.103.142> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:09:55] *** robert_HfWU <robert_HfWU!~robert@193.196.133.6> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:11:46] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/)[16:13:56] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x2f7fc3b.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:14:19] *** japonecka <japonecka!~ok@86.49.186.211> has joined #manjaro[16:14:22] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ydxjowuqlsthaplc> has joined #manjaro[16:14:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[16:16:36] <magican> well, did a VM with mCOLe by Spatry..[16:16:38] <magican> not that impressed.[16:16:40] <magican> tbh[16:17:13] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@dhcp-19-19.cs.uit.no> has joined #manjaro[16:17:14] <magican> Not even a fun VM machine.. tips for a fun VM? Debian perhaps? Ubuntu (nah), OpenSUSE?[16:17:51] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x2f7fc3b.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[16:19:32] <rumflump> how and when would debian ever be "fun"?[16:19:48] <rumflump> you need to range further afiend for fun, imo[16:20:19] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has joined #manjaro[16:20:24] <PMunch> Sorry I just left thid[16:20:33] <rumflump> SourceMage, antiX, puppy, nixos/guix[16:20:34] <PMunch> I had to go to a lecture[16:20:46] <rumflump> as a magican you definitely have to try sourcemage[16:21:59] <PMunch> I was just looking for the program that the man-page I sent was about[16:22:16] <PMunch> I can't find it on my machine or in the repos. The general name doesn't help either..[16:22:39] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x2f7fc3b.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[16:24:04] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@0133902111.0.fullrate.ninja> has joined #manjaro[16:25:56] <magican> PMunch: What u looking for?[16:26:03] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-btabimaymjvuifol> has joined #manjaro[16:26:09] <PMunch> https://linux.die.net/man/1/merge[16:26:09] *** roch_ <roch_!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[16:26:11] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/YJjX0o] merge(1): three-way file merge - Linux man page[16:26:23] <NanoSector> hi PMunch[16:26:37] <PMunch> Hi NanoSector, what's up?[16:26:42] <NanoSector> not much, you?[16:27:03] *** hedgie <hedgie!~hedgie@2602:306:3144:1e10:652d:b973:841:f5> has joined #manjaro[16:27:48] <PMunch> Just starting up a new semester[16:28:04] <PMunch> I'm going to be a TA in an IoT class using LoPy modules[16:28:14] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@x59cc87f5.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[16:28:18] <NanoSector> TA?[16:28:39] <magican> Technical A...?[16:28:45] <NanoSector> Advisor?[16:28:45] *** anth <anth!~anth@213.152.180.5> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:28:47] <magican> Total Ass?[16:28:49] <magican> :D[16:28:50] <NanoSector> lol[16:29:03] *** mystified <mystified!~mystif@110-174-9-2.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:29:07] <PMunch> Teaching Assistant[16:29:15] <NanoSector> ah, nice[16:29:46] <PMunch> So if you have a cool idea with sensors and a long range radio network let me know :)[16:33:17] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@x59cc87f5.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[16:33:29] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@x59cc87f5.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[16:33:32] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x59cc8a26.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #manjaro[16:34:05] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@62-89-76-202.static.ip.netia.com.pl> has joined #manjaro[16:37:22] <manjaroi3> long shot. but did any of you solve the rofi transparency issue in i3? not important, but it bothers me. if any of you have a config example.[16:37:28] *** infinital <infinital!uid144856@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-exqwsiyxxhrqqtfo> has joined #manjaro[16:38:27] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@x59cc87f5.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[16:42:33] <PMunch> Transparency issue?[16:42:35] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[16:43:06] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[16:43:09] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[16:43:09] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@97-81-170-215.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com> has quit IRC (Changing host)[16:43:09] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has joined #manjaro[16:43:32] *** CountryfiedLinux <CountryfiedLinux!~robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:47:06] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:48:02] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-092-078-246-186.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:48:40] *** euler <euler!~euler@ip5f5b18ba.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[16:49:03] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has joined #manjaro[16:49:18] *** Kjeldmis <Kjeldmis!~ckk@62.66.164.82> has joined #manjaro[16:49:30] <manjaroi3> PMunch, apparently transparance in rofi depends on more than just comptom, og maybe i dont understand "transparant colors".[16:50:19] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has joined #manjaro[16:50:31] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@192-164-126-169.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[16:52:09] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@89.22.60.200> has joined #manjaro[16:52:14] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-llnyfhadmzxtfhpu> has joined #manjaro[16:52:39] *** the-cure <the-cure!~chatzilla@93.190.93.96> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[16:52:51] <Kjeldmis> transparent as opposed to opaque?[16:53:02] *** the-cure <the-cure!~chatzilla@p5B3C926B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[16:53:24] *** manjaroi3_ is now known as archie_avanesov[16:53:43] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has joined #manjaro[16:53:49] *** the-cure <the-cure!~chatzilla@p5B3C926B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:55:50] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@0133902111.0.fullrate.ninja> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[16:55:52] <totalkrill_> PMunch, do a wireless mesh motion detector netowork :D[16:56:43] <totalkrill_> With gps, and scatter from a plane over a forest[16:56:46] *** osama <osama!~manjaro-k@171.38.30.246> has joined #manjaro[16:56:47] *** osama <osama!~manjaro-k@171.38.30.246> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[16:56:50] <totalkrill_> then go play paintball with it :D[16:57:13] <totalkrill_> If you move, then you are on everyones radar :D[16:57:31] <totalkrill_> Very interesting capture the flag concept[16:58:20] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has joined #manjaro[16:59:47] <roch_> o/[17:00:14] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@x59cc8a26.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[17:01:46] <PMunch> Hmm, that's actually pretty fun[17:01:57] <PMunch> Or sounds fun[17:02:04] <PMunch> An actual radar like in games :P[17:02:09] <totalkrill_> Yeah :D[17:02:49] <totalkrill_> ( If anyone goes and make tons of money from this now I want some credit )[17:03:17] *** archie_avanesov <archie_avanesov!~manjaro-i@89.22.60.200> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[17:03:32] <Kjeldmis> totalkrill_: sorry to dissapoint you, but thats already a "thing" :p[17:03:38] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@89.22.60.200> has joined #manjaro[17:03:41] <totalkrill_> oh :P[17:04:03] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.233.141> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:04:39] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[17:04:39] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.161.43> has joined #manjaro[17:04:50] <Kjeldmis> We used it while I was in the danish army. Local paintball shops used it too. Runners used it for checkpointing in the forest. Live overview for commentators, etc.[17:04:55] <manjaroi3> test[17:05:04] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@p20030074CC24EC01C566DE64600BF04B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:06:47] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-gmegmzybexuhotnr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:07:40] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@165.169.224.24> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:08:18] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has joined #manjaro[17:08:25] *** manjaroi3 is now known as avanesov[17:08:35] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[17:08:46] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@62-89-76-202.static.ip.netia.com.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[17:08:54] <Kjeldmis> totalkrill_: It worked as you had a commander with a tablet-like device, which was in radio contact with the soldiers out there. He had to coordinate where the "enemy" was while keeping supply runs going with ammo and such.[17:09:50] <totalkrill_> Oh, nice[17:09:52] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[17:09:55] <totalkrill_> fun concept[17:09:55] <Kjeldmis> Also, he had to make sure the enemy didnt flank or disrupt the supply lines. Its actually pretty fun.[17:09:58] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:11:08] <Kjeldmis> The armys paintball guns hurt like effing shit tho[17:11:18] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@138.246.255.141> has joined #manjaro[17:11:20] <totalkrill_> Still fun :D[17:11:28] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-088-073-156-139.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[17:11:31] <Kjeldmis> y :)[17:12:31] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has joined #manjaro[17:12:41] <avanesov> Hi there[17:12:52] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@0133902111.0.fullrate.ninja> has joined #manjaro[17:14:53] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:16:18] *** the-cure <the-cure!rrrrrr@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-xjjdkjgwhucclgwx> has joined #manjaro[17:16:59] *** Kjeldmis <Kjeldmis!~ckk@62.66.164.82> has quit IRC (Quit: Kjeldmis)[17:17:01] *** the-cure <the-cure!rrrrrr@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-xjjdkjgwhucclgwx> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:17:35] *** the-cure <the-cure!rrrrrr@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-yfgiqmhxjjawpwwa> has joined #manjaro[17:18:23] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has joined #manjaro[17:18:38] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@p20030074CC24EC01C566DE64600BF04B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:19:26] *** mikeitup <mikeitup!42cb2619@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.66.203.38.25> has joined #manjaro[17:19:36] *** mikeitup <mikeitup!42cb2619@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.66.203.38.25> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:21:07] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@138.246.255.141> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:21:14] *** ira_ <ira_!~iranen@85-76-14-55-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #manjaro[17:21:21] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@cable-89-216-204-200.dynamic.sbb.rs> has joined #manjaro[17:22:12] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:22:15] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[17:23:10] *** aidin <aidin!~aidin@220-244-225-238.static.tpgi.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[17:23:53] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has joined #manjaro[17:23:56] <manjaro-kde5--> I don't have anything to ask, just wanna say that Manjaro is awesome![17:31:47] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@cable-89-216-204-200.dynamic.sbb.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[17:32:26] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@192-164-126-169.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[17:32:42] *** aassdd <aassdd!9ec436ca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.158.196.54.202> has joined #manjaro[17:33:14] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[17:33:15] *** the-cure <the-cure!rrrrrr@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-yfgiqmhxjjawpwwa> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[17:33:23] <aassdd> hello i have a question how i can find the Manjaro 17... Stable Release date ? is it defined ?[17:36:43] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has joined #manjaro[17:38:04] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[17:40:38] <CupOfCoffee> aassdd manjaro 17? if i read the title correct ans look on manjaro 16.10.* is the last release[17:41:57] <aassdd> yea i know lastes is 16.10.* but i am wondering about the current alpha relase when will come back to stable and relased ?[17:42:36] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[17:47:02] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[17:47:26] *** aassdd <aassdd!9ec436ca@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.158.196.54.202> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[17:52:47] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@p20030074CC24EC01C566DE64600BF04B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[17:56:09] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@dhcp-19-19.cs.uit.no> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[17:56:58] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@p20030074CC24EC01C566DE64600BF04B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[17:57:08] *** Lyliya <Lyliya!~Lyliya@163.5.220.10> has joined #manjaro[17:57:16] <Lyliya> Salut bande de salope[17:57:26] *** Lyliya <Lyliya!~Lyliya@163.5.220.10> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[17:57:46] *** Lyliya <Lyliya!~Lyliya@163.5.220.10> has joined #manjaro[18:00:47] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@m213-102-65-71.cust.tele2.ee> has joined #manjaro[18:04:45] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@0133902111.0.fullrate.ninja> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[18:09:22] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@eeg51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[18:10:57] <roch_> salmonella salcessone![18:14:05] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132099005.public.t-mobile.at> has joined #manjaro[18:15:20] *** japonecka <japonecka!~ok@86.49.186.211> has quit IRC (Quit: japonecka)[18:15:27] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[18:16:33] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@195.142.136.17> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[18:17:03] *** Lyliya <Lyliya!~Lyliya@163.5.220.10> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[18:19:37] <noy|b> A question about .cache directory[18:19:55] <noy|b> can I delete all the sub directories inside .cache[18:20:49] <noy|b> or do those sub directories need to stay[18:21:05] *** theGnu <theGnu!~annoying@2602:ffc5::ffc5:cd91> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[18:21:18] *** varikonniemi <varikonniemi!~q@a91-152-223-79.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #manjaro[18:22:32] <noy|b> for example if I delete the ~/.cache/thumbnails directory will the system create a new one automatically when new thumbnails are stored?[18:22:42] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@115.99.4.207> has joined #manjaro[18:25:15] <noy|b> I'm pretty sure its safe[18:26:15] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@115.99.4.207> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:26:38] <mtn> noy|b: this is in a web browser?[18:27:13] *** m712 <m712!~annoying@2602:ffc5::ffc5:cd91> has joined #manjaro[18:27:17] <noy|b> No I mean the /home/user/.cache/*[18:28:26] <mtn> noy|b: not sure which app uses thumbnails, but I assume they will be recreated if needed[18:29:56] <noy|b> Are all files inside directories and files inside ~/.cache temporary files?[18:30:15] <noy|b> lol i'll try put in that in english[18:30:15] *** arizona_shawn <arizona_shawn!~manjaro-k@12.130.117.49> has joined #manjaro[18:31:00] *** arizona_shawn <arizona_shawn!~manjaro-k@12.130.117.49> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:31:08] <noy|b> Are the sub-directories and files inside the ~/.cache directory temporary files?[18:31:22] <mtn> noy|b: yes, I believe they are. that is what a cache is[18:31:29] <noy|b> ok[18:31:31] *** arizona_shawn <arizona_shawn!~manjaro-k@12.130.117.49> has joined #manjaro[18:32:22] *** arizona_shawn <arizona_shawn!~manjaro-k@12.130.117.49> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[18:32:29] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@103.230.103.171> has joined #manjaro[18:32:35] <mtn> noy|b: https://www.google.com/search?q=what+is+.cache+used+for%3F&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=what+is+.cache+folder+used+for%3F[18:32:38] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/j53JAZ] what is .cache used for? 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need to add autorandr --change --default[18:58:27] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[18:59:36] <manjaroi3> is the syntax --default nameofconfig or --nameofconfig?? seems like the info when saing a dispay setting is a little sparsome[18:59:39] *** manjaro-web|1275 <manjaro-web|1275!a2ef38e1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.239.56.225> has joined #manjaro[18:59:40] <manjaroi3> sparse[18:59:57] *** manjaro-web|1275 <manjaro-web|1275!a2ef38e1@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.162.239.56.225> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:00:10] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has joined #manjaro[19:00:41] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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Thing is, i can't find megasync in octopi, is it xfce exclusive?[19:09:38] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:09:50] *** manjaro-web|3070 <manjaro-web|3070!64028633@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.100.2.134.51> has joined #manjaro[19:09:55] <magican> [magican@megatron ~]$ yaourt -Ss megasync[19:09:57] <magican> aur/megasync 2.9.10-1 (209) (6,66)[19:09:59] <magican> Sync your files to your Mega account. Official app[19:10:04] <magican> Short answer: no[19:10:07] <magican> ;P[19:10:15] <manjaroi3> https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/megasync/[19:10:17] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/fcsM6B] AUR (en) - megasync[19:10:44] <magican> Stop using GUI tools and yaourt it insted.[19:10:49] <manjaro-web|1820> Weird, why dont i find it when looking from octopi in aur?[19:11:04] *** ckk <ckk!~ckk@62.66.164.82> has joined #manjaro[19:11:06] <manjaroi3> manjaro-web|1820, did you sqith to AUR?[19:11:11] <magican> aur/thunar-megasync 2.9.2-1 (1) (0,62)[19:11:13] <magican> Upload your files to your Mega account from Thunar.[19:11:15] <magican> thats a nice one ![19:11:16] <manjaroi3> switch[19:11:27] <manjaro-web|1820> sqith to AUR?[19:11:34] <manjaro-web|1820> brr sry im retarded too[19:11:48] <manjaro-web|1820> yes i did switch to aur and still didnt find it[19:12:01] *** sydney_untangle <sydney_untangle!~sydney@supertux/sydney> has joined #manjaro[19:12:01] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has joined #manjaro[19:12:18] <magican> But it's there =)[19:12:30] <manjaro-web|1820> ok give me a moment[19:12:32] <magican> Just do a yaourt -S megasync in terminal.[19:12:39] <manjaroi3> i checked as well. it is there.[19:12:40] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has joined #manjaro[19:12:54] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@103.240.192.230> has joined #manjaro[19:13:38] <bennypr0fane> Hi, I chose GPG encryption for kdewallet instead of blowfish. Now I'm asked for the GPG passphrase at every bootup when the wifi wants to connect. Oddly, it also asks me whether or not I want to store the passphrase in the password manager. I find it odd because I thought kdewallet *is* the password manager. However activating that option doesn't work. I suspect I haven't fully understood how this is all supposed or what kdewallet[19:13:39] <bennypr0fane> wants to be in the first place...? Any clues? hints?[19:13:48] <manjaroi3> manjaro-web|1820, Dont use the terminal. you will grow a long beard and lose your girlfriend![19:14:28] <mtn> manjaroi3: my girlfriend of 42 years likes my long beard![19:14:43] <manjaroi3> mtn, you are one lucky man!![19:14:50] <mtn> manjaroi3: yes, I am[19:15:07] <manjaro-web|1820> I know thats why i try to avoid it, only using it to run code in it[19:15:10] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@68.168.114.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:15:23] <manjaro-web|1820> Whatever guess ill learn 3 yaourt commands[19:15:33] <manjaro-web|1820> Hopefully she wont notice[19:15:44] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has joined #manjaro[19:17:15] <manjaroi3> what is the right place for add autorandr --change --default?? im using i3[19:17:55] <manjaroi3> when sving monitor setup, it refers to the "startup file". but what file is in question?[19:18:37] <ckk> manjaroi3: depends on when you want it to run[19:18:47] *** ckk is now known as Kjeldmis[19:19:21] <Kjeldmis> .bashrc is run at login.[19:19:27] <manjaroi3> Kjeldmis, hej Kjeld. at startup of preferable login. i have a secondary monitor.[19:20:09] <manjaroi3> Kjeldmis, thanks. I will try to put it in .bashrc. what is the correct syntax? add autorandr --change --mysaveconfighere?[19:20:36] <Kjeldmis> what privilieges does it need to be run with?[19:20:41] <Kjeldmis> does it need root?[19:21:31] <manjaroi3> Kjeldmis, I set it up using the manjaro manager. i guess it doesnt need root.[19:22:51] *** joaojotta <joaojotta!~joaojotta@acb1-84-91-18-209.netvisao.pt> has joined #manjaro[19:23:00] <Kjeldmis> manjaroi3: Im not sure what you mean by that. bashrc has the same syntax as the terminal.[19:24:36] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@103.240.192.230> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:24:44] <Kjeldmis> if it needs root, you can put a sh script in /etc/profile.d/[19:24:49] <manjaro-web|1820> Forgot to say-thanks! Waterfall in my console seems constructive :)[19:25:06] <manjaroi3> Kjeldmis, i set a config line add autorandr --change --nameofmysetting in .i3/config. that doesnt work.[19:25:24] <Kjeldmis> ofc not[19:25:33] <Kjeldmis> config files are read, not executed[19:25:36] *** manjaro-web|1820 <manjaro-web|1820!4fc1678e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.79.193.103.142> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:25:36] <manjaroi3> Kjeldmis, i suspect you are right. it need to go in bashrc. stupid me.[19:26:44] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:26:56] *** manjaro-web|8382 <manjaro-web|8382!746c3ba0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.116.108.59.160> has joined #manjaro[19:27:01] <manjaroi3> Kjeldmis, would have been nice with a short guide in the manjaro manager. where do i suggest changes?[19:27:01] *** manjaro-web|8382 <manjaro-web|8382!746c3ba0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.116.108.59.160> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[19:27:42] <manjaroi3> like "fix font issues during install" :D[19:27:58] *** manjaro-web|3070 <manjaro-web|3070!64028633@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.100.2.134.51> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[19:28:46] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[19:28:59] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has joined #manjaro[19:29:03] *** infinital <infinital!uid144856@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-exqwsiyxxhrqqtfo> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[19:29:26] <Kjeldmis> manjaroi3: you can contribute by writing a guide and posting it on the forums.[19:31:07] <manjaroi3> Kjeldmis, okay. I will get involved then. loving the majaro way (tried setting up pure Arch, and cried)[19:32:13] <Kjeldmis> manjaroi3: http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/81/81531ba5ec6564669791e07c5b2b3c1c73aa242766410e5938c38988aac2e7da.jpg[19:32:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/JTFd85] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)[19:32:55] <Kjeldmis> life is too short for pure Arch manjaroi3 ;)[19:32:56] <manjaroi3> Kjeldmis, haha.. thanks :)[19:33:10] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:33:36] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132099005.public.t-mobile.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:35:11] <avanesov> Guys, in i3wm i have a NM applet and some others, how i can remove from status bar?[19:35:52] <manjaroi3> avanesov, search youtube. rice up i3[19:36:01] <Kjeldmis> avanesov: well, you can uninstall nm-applet for one[19:36:18] <manjaroi3> avanesov, he explains how to edit the menu.[19:36:45] <avanesov> http://imgur.com/a/3dcgn[19:36:46] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/zGg01i] Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet[19:38:22] <avanesov> if i delete nm, do i use wifi-menu instead?[19:38:41] <avanesov> or NetworkManager be still working?[19:39:00] <Kjeldmis> avanesov: nm-applet is just the applet. you can configure networkmanager through the terminal[19:39:14] <avanesov> thy=)[19:40:40] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:40:58] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[19:41:56] *** Mr_Pan <Mr_Pan!~Mr_Pan@unaffiliated/mr-pan/x-4457432> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[19:44:50] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@2604:6000:ff01:3100:cc30:20cc:d45d:19e9> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:45:30] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[19:49:31] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@pool-71-185-73-61.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:49:50] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[19:50:17] *** joaojotta <joaojotta!~joaojotta@acb1-84-91-18-209.netvisao.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[19:53:46] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:54:15] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@p4FDAA411.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[19:58:47] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@dhcp-5-186-120-146.cgn.ip.fibianet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[19:58:59] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-150-104-37.range86-150.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[20:02:46] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@p4FDAA411.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:05:40] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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Either the keys for XF86MonBrightnessUp and XF86MonBrightnessDown arent mapped to your keyboard, or, whatever application handling those keys dont recognize the native backlight mode for your graphics card[20:40:34] *** Manja <Manja!~Manja@p5DDDD03A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[20:41:45] <Kjeldmis> To proceed you can use xdotool to test if the key codes XF86MonBrightnessUp and XF86MonBrightnessDown actually changes brightness.[20:42:00] <inahd> sounds very sane[20:43:32] <Kjeldmis> If they dont, then you can create your own, or modify an existing script on the net that changes brightness by editing the brightness file in the aforementioned backlight folder.[20:44:05] *** marco-parillo <marco-parillo!d8cb060b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.203.6.11> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[20:44:10] <Kjeldmis> Then you can map that script to your keys.[20:44:51] <Kjeldmis> If the key codes does work, simply create a custom keyboard shortcut for up and down and use xdotool to modify it.[20:45:09] <Kjeldmis> brightness up and down, that is.[20:46:08] <inahd> okay reading up on xdotool[20:46:09] <Kjeldmis> inahd: I hope that clarifies in broad strokes what needs to be done. If you got questions, feel free to ask.[20:46:25] <inahd> yes very much so Kjeldmis[20:46:51] <Kjeldmis> inahd: xdotool key XF86MonBrightnessUp would simulate a press on Brightness up[20:47:02] <Kjeldmis> and xdotool key XF86MonBrightnessDown for down.[20:48:04] <Kjeldmis> if those work, map that to a custom shortcut and your home free.[20:48:22] <inahd> aha![20:48:50] <inahd> now how to map?[20:49:23] <Kjeldmis> Well, as I said, its a long time since Ive run XFCE. Isnt there a shortcuts section under keyboard?[20:49:25] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[20:50:04] <Kjeldmis> Where it lets you create a new one - in command you enter xdotool key XF86MonBrightnessUp for up and press the sequence you want for that, and so forth.[20:50:20] <inahd> oh yeah cool sounds easy[20:50:35] *** m712 is now known as GNU-|-Spy[20:50:57] *** GNU-|-Spy is now known as theGNU[20:51:35] <Kjeldmis> Should be. Otherwise, there are other ways to create keybindings and shortcuts.[20:52:02] <inahd> oh weird[20:52:23] <inahd> looks like my function key is not mapped right.[20:52:56] <Kjeldmis> its probably inverted right?[20:52:58] <inahd> cause shortcuts were created to be just f2 f3[20:53:11] <Kjeldmis> ah.[20:53:12] <inahd> i dunno.[20:53:42] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a01:79d:469c:e728:1fa7:f940:db16:6cb7> has joined #manjaro[20:53:52] <inahd> probably already were shortcuts for brightness i just wasnt pressing a function key[20:54:17] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[20:54:31] <manjaro-kde5> hi[20:54:43] * inahd waves[20:54:46] <Kjeldmis> Well Fn is a hardware key. Linux cant control it. XF86MonBrightnessUp is actually Fn+F2 on my laptop.[20:55:01] <inahd> well darn[20:55:18] <inahd> who has my function key![20:56:46] <Kjeldmis> So, you could something like CTRL+F2 instead. Or, set F8 or F9, or some other key you dont use to brightness.[20:56:54] <inahd> hm.[20:57:05] <inahd> no way to get my fn key back?[20:57:53] <Kjeldmis> Well. It should be working. Is it maybe disabled in BIOS? Fn keys are as I said before hardware keys. They arent controlled or modfied by the OS[20:58:03] <inahd> i suspect that all the fn+fx keys are already mapped[20:58:11] <inahd> i'll check bios i guess[20:58:17] <Kjeldmis> That might be the case.[20:58:32] <inahd> brb :D[20:58:38] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@pool-71-185-73-61.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:00:10] *** ACz <ACz!~ACz@dns.magusz.net> has joined #manjaro[21:00:19] <ACz> hello folks![21:00:26] <Kjeldmis> Hi ACz[21:00:32] <ACz> what happened to Broadcom drivers after last update?[21:00:45] <Kjeldmis> I wouldnt know.[21:01:02] <ACz> 4.4.41-1-MANJARO kernel and my WiFi is dead as... dead[21:01:07] <Kjeldmis> What do you mean?[21:01:21] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[21:01:21] <ACz> lspci -nnv shows nothing[21:01:32] <ACz> iwconfig, ifconfig, forget about that[21:01:51] <Kjeldmis> lspci doesnt read the driver. it reads the actual hardware[21:01:56] <ACz> only oh[21:02:04] <ACz> oh, right[21:02:14] <Kjeldmis> if it isnt showing in lspci, its probably disabled.[21:02:21] <ACz> I've looked in dmesg | grep wl[21:02:33] <ACz> [ 223.403793] wl: module license 'Mixed/Proprietary' taints kernel.[21:02:40] <ACz> wtf?[21:03:03] <Kjeldmis> well. how should the kernel load a driver if the hardware isnt there?[21:03:19] *** manjaro-kde5_ <manjaro-kde5_!~manjaro-k@79.172.122.136> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:03:25] <Kjeldmis> first things first you know :)[21:03:26] <ACz> I've seen responses on Manjaro site and only 'get the fuck out to USB WiFi' was promoted[21:04:01] <Kjeldmis> start by getting the hardware detected by lspci[21:04:07] <ACz> Kjeldmis: okay, so I've connected Live USB with 4.4.33-1-MANJARO and works like a charm[21:04:13] <Kjeldmis> then I can help you fix the driver after that.[21:04:58] <ACz> Kjeldmis: so how could I do that? I've got I thnik appropriate packages with drivers[21:05:09] <ACz> now I did modprobe wl and ssb once again[21:05:10] <ACz> dead[21:05:20] <Kjeldmis> well.. as I said, lspci doesnt read the driver[21:05:26] <Kjeldmis> it reads the hardware[21:05:29] *** d-zaster <d-zaster!~user@ip-83-134-231-77.dsl.scarlet.be> has left #manjaro ("ERC (IRC client for Emacs 25.1.1)")[21:05:42] <ACz> Kjeldmis: okay, let's leave that lspci thing[21:05:44] <Kjeldmis> even if you had no driver installed at all, it would still be listed with lspci[21:05:58] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[21:06:34] <ACz> Kjeldmis: so what do I have to look at? because now I'm jsut running circles[21:06:37] *** inahd <inahd!~inahd@pool-71-185-73-61.phlapa.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[21:06:51] <inahd> okay it was flipping 'action key' mode[21:07:25] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:93f:995e:ed47:ddf5> has joined #manjaro[21:07:32] <Kjeldmis> inahd: ah see? I told you xD[21:07:40] <inahd> Kjeldmis, you have solved my problem![21:07:43] <Kjeldmis> So its fixed now?[21:07:50] <Kjeldmis> great, happy to help.[21:07:54] <inahd> all the hotkeys work[21:08:00] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[21:08:07] <Kjeldmis> Nice.[21:08:25] <inahd> i also saw that the fan always on was enabled[21:08:27] *** Jeannie <Jeannie!~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[21:08:51] <Kjeldmis> inahd: yeah, well, as soon as the system is booted, linux takes over fan control[21:08:57] <inahd> oh word[21:09:02] <Kjeldmis> so nevermind that :)[21:09:28] <Nytram> Does anyone have any idea why manjaro can't shut my PC down? When all I've done is install windows 10 instead of windows 7 and replace Mint with Manjaro. I didn't touch anything in the bios.[21:09:49] <Kjeldmis> ACz: To clarify, this is a USB WiFi card?[21:09:53] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[21:09:56] <ACz> Kjeldmis: not at all[21:10:32] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@p5DC4CD95.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:10:44] <Kjeldmis> ACz: OK, well, is it a laptop?[21:10:52] <ACz> Kjeldmis: yes, it is :)[21:10:55] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has joined #manjaro[21:11:19] <ACz> Kjeldmis: now I've checked the command[21:11:24] <ACz> rfkill list[21:11:45] <ACz> 0: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN[21:11:45] <ACz> Soft blocked: yes[21:11:46] <ACz> Hard blocked: yes[21:11:54] <Kjeldmis> so, I have to ask, have you tried turning it off and on again using the disable/enable keys?[21:12:15] <ACz> Kjeldmis: on Live USB version the key to turn it on works like a charm[21:12:29] <ACz> now it's completely unresponsive[21:12:33] <Kjeldmis> Try turning it on and check lspci[21:12:40] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[21:13:01] <Kjeldmis> does it show up?[21:13:03] <ACz> Kjeldmis: believe me, I have tried it multiple times before I came here[21:13:26] <Kjeldmis> ACz: I believe you, I just have to ask, you know?[21:13:36] <ACz> yes, yes I do :)[21:13:53] <ACz> sorry for that arrogance[21:14:29] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:14:35] <Kjeldmis> OK, try doing rfkill unblock all[21:14:36] <ACz> but Manjaro really kills my mood to do anything different than reinstalling it to a hmmm... more upgrade-friendly OS :)[21:17:27] <ACz> Kjeldmis: ok, I'm back[21:17:31] <Kjeldmis> ACz: wb.[21:17:52] <ACz> I'll do it slow, because unblocking all just hanged up my system completely :D[21:18:31] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[21:18:37] *** _thelion_ <_thelion_!~Matthias@192-164-126-169.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.5)[21:18:47] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[21:18:49] <Kjeldmis> Alright. Which WiFi card / bluetooth combo do you have?[21:19:03] <ACz> Kjeldmis: yeah![21:19:16] <ACz> lspci -k shows something already[21:19:41] <ACz> Kjeldmis: BCM4360[21:19:47] <ACz> and bluetooth[21:19:54] <Kjeldmis> ACz: great, now which driver do you use for that?[21:20:09] <ACz> Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge[21:20:17] <ACz> Kernel modules: ssb, wl[21:20:50] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[21:20:51] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[21:21:13] <ACz> Kjeldmis: AFAIR on Live USB I had 'wl' driver in use[21:21:56] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-176-199-58-153.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[21:22:44] <ACz> Manjaro Settings Manager still shows only Ethernet card but I think I'm close to the solution[21:22:59] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-176-199-58-153.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:23:30] <Kjeldmis> ACz: wl should be the driver used for that card.[21:23:42] <ACz> Kjeldmis: so how can I change that to the 'wl' driver in use?[21:25:35] <Kjeldmis> ACz: first, you need to find out if some other driver tries to take control of the card.[21:26:20] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.)[21:26:21] <Kjeldmis> If there arent, you should be able to just modprobe the wl driver.[21:26:53] <Kjeldmis> If that causes some issues, we can take it from there.[21:27:30] <ACz> hmmm... now my card disappeared from lspci list, dmesg?[21:27:32] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@m213-102-65-71.cust.tele2.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: byezzz)[21:27:36] <Kjeldmis> y'[21:27:45] <Kjeldmis> and check the rfkill list again[21:27:46] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[21:28:00] <ACz> wifi is softblocked now[21:28:29] <ACz> ok, unlocked[21:29:43] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@dyndsl-092-252-104-183.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has joined #manjaro[21:30:41] <Kjeldmis> so what does it say precisely?[21:30:52] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[21:30:57] <Kjeldmis> rfkill list ? :)[21:31:06] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:31:07] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[21:31:50] <Kjeldmis> I think some other driver is trying to take control over your vard.[21:31:51] <Kjeldmis> card[21:32:03] <manjaroi3_> using i3, there seems to be a typo ind a script for connecting disconnecting displays. xrandr unknown option --putput <- should be --output. Where do bug-reports like this go best[21:33:48] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-176-199-58-153.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de> has joined #manjaro[21:33:53] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[21:33:55] <ACz> Kjeldmis: ok, I have rolled back the old modprobe.d blacklist config[21:33:58] <ACz> the default one[21:34:05] <Kjeldmis> OK, good[21:34:16] <ACz> BTW something really strange happened after the reboot[21:34:21] <Kjeldmis> Im curious, which driver was blacklisted?[21:34:55] <ACz> the screen froze and started to turn negative, like on some LSD visualizations or something[21:34:59] *** JohnML <JohnML!~quassel@ip-176-199-58-153.hsi06.unitymediagroup.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:35:08] <ACz> Kjeldmis: back before or right now?[21:35:21] <Kjeldmis> Right now.[21:35:33] <Kjeldmis> And before, if you can remember.[21:35:49] <ACz> before: b43, b43legacy, wl[21:36:08] <Kjeldmis> wl shouldnt be blacklisted...[21:36:12] <ACz> now: b43, b43legacy, ssb, bcm43xx, brcm80211, brcmfmac[21:36:17] <ACz> bcma[21:36:24] <Kjeldmis> y thasts more like it.[21:36:30] <Kjeldmis> thats*[21:36:51] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-150-104-37.range86-150.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[21:37:00] <Kjeldmis> so you got a different problem now, or is everything fine?[21:37:16] <ACz> Kjeldmis: let me unlock that stuff and let's see[21:37:39] *** manjaroi3__ <manjaroi3__!~manjaro-i@207.62.73.246> has joined #manjaro[21:38:14] *** d-zaster <d-zaster!~user@ip-83-134-231-77.dsl.scarlet.be> has joined #manjaro[21:38:15] *** manjaroi3__ is now known as MEXdave1997[21:38:37] <rhg135> yo[21:39:28] <Kjeldmis> manjaroi3_: at the authors git page for the script in question[21:39:48] <MEXdave1997> hey, what's happening, all?[21:40:42] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@195.142.136.17> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[21:40:45] <ACz> Kjeldmis: ok, now I've got 'wl' driver in kernel, everything's unlocked but still no sign of the card[21:40:57] <ACz> I've restarted NetworkManager service[21:41:03] <Kjeldmis> MEXdave1997: not much, just trying to help ACz getting his card working[21:41:07] <ACz> nothing has changed[21:41:20] <Kjeldmis> ACz: is it listed by lspci?[21:41:20] <ACz> MEXdave1997: you know, Broadcom magic[21:41:27] <ACz> Kjeldmis: yes, yes indeed[21:41:31] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~manjaro-i@dyndsl-092-252-104-183.ewe-ip-backbone.de> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[21:41:48] <Kjeldmis> and rfkill mentions that the card isnt either hard or soft blocked?[21:42:17] <ACz> nope[21:42:23] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@176.232.13.127> has joined #manjaro[21:42:32] <ACz> I mean, everything's unlocked[21:42:37] <Kjeldmis> And modprobing it goes fine?[21:42:55] <Kjeldmis> no clues in dmesg?[21:43:55] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1EC1010E920FA6A4C279.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[21:44:19] <ACz> Kjeldmis: hmmm... something's not right, ACPI seems to be dead?[21:44:29] <ACz> wait[21:44:30] <Kjeldmis> ACz: I dont know if its a spelling error, but earlier you told me that brcmfmac was added to blacklist. it should be brcmsmac[21:44:40] <manjaro-kde5-> hello i found an issue with te manjaro installer while trying to install it on a usb drive when i tried replacing a partition on the drive and selected the drive as the target for the bootlader it would revert back to installing onto my computers hard drive but when i choose manual partioning it works fine i was wondering if anyone knew why this was happening[21:44:42] <ACz> Kjeldmis: both of them are :)[21:45:38] <Kjeldmis> no, brcmsmac do indeed exist :)[21:46:18] <ACz> yeah, but it's a default blacklist and both of them are already blacklisted[21:46:32] <ACz> brcmsmac and brcmfmac[21:47:10] <Kjeldmis> good.[21:47:55] <ACz> sudo modprobe wl does a damage, I'll pastebin you some stuff[21:48:28] <ACz> Kjeldmis: http://pastebin.com/BPdAhz8r[21:48:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/3iVqrw] Dmesg after sudo modprobe wl - Pastebin.com[21:49:35] <Kjeldmis> Broadcom drivers are always a pain.[21:49:58] <ACz> Kjeldmis: I see, maybe I'll check once again what drivers were used on Live USB, hm?[21:51:36] <Kjeldmis> ACz: well, wl SHOULD be the only driver supporting your device.[21:51:39] <Kjeldmis> https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#list_of_hardware[21:51:43] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/NoG1Eg] en:users:drivers:b43 [Linux Wireless][21:52:15] <ACz> crap :([21:53:12] <ACz> let's see that b43[21:53:31] <ACz> yaourt b43 will be enough?[21:55:41] <Kjeldmis> b43 doesnt support your chipset[21:56:17] <ACz> mhm[21:56:19] <Kjeldmis> I would try changing to a newer kernel, or maybe try reinstalling the broadcom-wl package.[21:56:40] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1E548D9C1AD9A8F1DDE7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[21:57:00] <Kjeldmis> Other than that, Im out of ideas Im afraid :([21:57:45] <ACz> okay, but can I downgrade my system back to 4.4.31 kernel version?[21:58:15] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@176.232.13.127> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:58:43] <Kjeldmis> You could, although I wouldnt recommend it. Its better to check if a newer kernel supports ur card better[21:59:04] <ACz> okay[21:59:36] <ACz> so do I need to install e.g. 4.8.x?[22:00:29] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~elijah@67.148.122.154> has joined #manjaro[22:01:14] *** d-zaster <d-zaster!~user@ip-83-134-231-77.dsl.scarlet.be> has left #manjaro ("ERC (IRC client for Emacs 25.1.1)")[22:02:47] <Kjeldmis> y[22:03:05] <Kjeldmis> you can do this through manjaro settings manager[22:03:38] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-150-104-37.range86-150.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:03:46] *** Kjeldmis <Kjeldmis!~ckk@62.66.164.82> has quit IRC (Quit: Kjeldmis)[22:04:02] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[22:07:19] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:07:50] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-088-073-156-139.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:09:59] *** Lyliya <Lyliya!~Lyliya@163.5.220.10> has joined #manjaro[22:10:01] *** nig_ger <nig_ger!60ff8873@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.255.136.115> has joined #manjaro[22:10:11] <nig_ger> ayyy[22:11:04] *** nig_ger <nig_ger!60ff8873@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.96.255.136.115> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:14:56] *** j09 <j09!c2bbfb7e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.187.251.126> has joined #manjaro[22:15:19] *** desparate <desparate!32f74849@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.50.247.72.73> has joined #manjaro[22:15:41] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@185.118.249.57> has joined #manjaro[22:16:26] <desparate> can't install any software get GPGME error core.db.sig too large have latest manjaro[22:16:57] <j09> Hi, I've just upgraded and I can't open kdenlive. Here's the console output http://pastebin.com/vjLeXUQu . Any suggestions?[22:16:58] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/8x7CYs] [usr@usr-pc ~]$ kdenlive qt5ct: using qt5ct plugin mlt_repository_init: failed - Pastebin.com[22:17:28] *** Lyliya <Lyliya!~Lyliya@163.5.220.10> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:19:46] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@163.5.220.184> has joined #manjaro[22:21:35] *** iv3ct <iv3ct!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[22:27:27] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@2a01:79d:469c:e728:1fa7:f940:db16:6cb7> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host)[22:28:45] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@163.5.220.184> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:28:56] <j09> where do i file bug reports for this kind of thing?[22:29:41] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@d40a2015.rev.stofanet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:30:23] *** avanesov <avanesov!~manjaro-i@89.22.60.200> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:32:06] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@dhcp-5-186-120-146.cgn.ip.fibianet.dk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:33:28] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:39:33] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.161.43> has joined #manjaro[22:40:33] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb1+jessie0 - http://znc.in)[22:40:33] *** desparate <desparate!32f74849@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.50.247.72.73> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:42:21] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@103.240.192.230> has joined #manjaro[22:42:34] *** nuuuciano_ <nuuuciano_!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)[22:45:14] *** MEXdave1997 <MEXdave1997!~manjaro-i@207.62.73.246> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[22:49:27] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[22:51:06] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.7)[22:53:38] <j09> Quiet in here.[22:55:04] *** desparate <desparate!c7212028@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.199.33.32.40> has joined #manjaro[22:55:45] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAF1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:57:00] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:58:20] *** NNN <NNN!~test@178.137.246.131> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:58:55] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb1+jessie0 - http://znc.in)[22:58:57] *** mattallmill <mattallmill!~mattallmi@ip174-70-145-40.ks.ks.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[22:59:43] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAF1F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[23:02:59] <desparate> solved the problem by moving lib/pacman/sync/ directory and repopulating pacman -Syuu[23:03:03] <desparate> thanks[23:03:04] *** NNN <NNN!~test@178.137.246.131> has joined #manjaro[23:03:08] *** desparate <desparate!c7212028@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.199.33.32.40> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[23:04:02] *** manots <manots!~manots@96-35-42-183.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[23:06:17] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[23:08:24] <j09> I'm running Akregator and when I move it to moniter 2, the DPI changes and the fonts become massive. It only happens with this app, is there anything I can do about it?[23:18:50] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.161.43> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:19:26] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has joined #manjaro[23:22:02] *** kht <kht!~koch@pool-173-52-74-184.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[23:22:07] <kht> hello[23:22:43] <kht> I've read about Manjaros link to Archlinux, would it be ok to say that Manjaro is a more stable version of Arch?[23:25:14] <rhg135> depends on how you define 'version'[23:25:26] *** j09 <j09!c2bbfb7e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.187.251.126> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[23:25:32] <rhg135> it uses it's own repos[23:25:50] *** bennypr0fane <bennypr0fane!~manjaro-k@078132099005.public.t-mobile.at> has joined #manjaro[23:27:56] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Quit: Potzblitz!)[23:28:03] *** imnofox <imnofox!~imnofox@222-152-79-171.jetstream.xtra.co.nz> has joined #manjaro[23:29:16] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@79-101-232-2.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:30:27] *** Thorax <Thorax!~Thorax@94.197.121.92.threembb.co.uk> has joined #manjaro[23:33:40] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:34:56] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:93f:995e:ed47:ddf5> has quit IRC (Quit: I've had enough of this milarky... 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