January 18, 2017 
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January 18, 2017 [00:00:24] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-92-25-207-94.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:02:01] *** trtl <trtl!~Turtle@unaffiliated/trtl> has joined #manjaro[00:02:30] *** hello_wafejawoij <hello_wafejawoij!~4tl45d33p@HSI-KBW-149-172-240-55.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:02:41] *** hello_wafejawoij <hello_wafejawoij!~4tl45d33p@HSI-KBW-149-172-240-55.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #manjaro[00:03:09] *** RSA4096 <RSA4096!~RSA4096@188.72.98.69> has joined #manjaro[00:03:24] *** rhg1352 <rhg1352!~holoirc@2607:fb90:d68:1f6c:ae68:9e60:c834:e9d2> has joined #manjaro[00:04:17] <RSA4096> Hello, when will be out the stable version of Manjaro 17?[00:05:20] *** V1G_LD-1Nkcc_ <V1G_LD-1Nkcc_!~V1G_LD-1N@ip68-3-220-102.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[00:05:46] *** rhg1351 <rhg1351!~holoirc@204.96.25.201> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[00:06:09] *** V1G_LD-1Nkcc_ <V1G_LD-1Nkcc_!~V1G_LD-1N@ip68-3-220-102.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:08:57] *** notis <notis!~notis@193.92.223.18.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:08:58] *** V1G_LD-1Nkcc <V1G_LD-1Nkcc!~V1G_LD-1N@107.183.238.179> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[00:11:11] *** V1G_LD-1Nkcc_ <V1G_LD-1Nkcc_!~V1G_LD-1N@ip68-3-220-102.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[00:11:25] *** enkorp <enkorp!~manjaro-i@dhcp-198-2-76-101.cable.user.start.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:11:37] *** V1G_LD-1Nkcc_ is now known as V1G_LD-1Nkcc[00:12:26] *** xabbu <xabbu!~xabbu@unaffiliated/xabbu> has quit IRC (Quit: gone)[00:15:11] *** notis <notis!~notis@178.128.25.102.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[00:16:55] *** hello_wafejawoij <hello_wafejawoij!~4tl45d33p@HSI-KBW-149-172-240-55.hsi13.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:19:08] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1E4D4EF70606A9F8F318.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[00:21:34] *** ktwo <ktwo!~ktwo@ipb21bc560.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:23:39] *** rhg1351 <rhg1351!~holoirc@47.189.84.107> has joined #manjaro[00:23:57] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@178.74.62.153> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[00:24:37] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has joined #manjaro[00:24:41] *** eloaders <eloaders!~eloaders@ail199.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:25:36] *** rhg1352 <rhg1352!~holoirc@2607:fb90:d68:1f6c:ae68:9e60:c834:e9d2> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[00:27:25] <xangua> When it's ready I assume[00:29:41] <dodgejcr> RSA4096: I dont think there is any true information about when it is. But they have been doing one every two months for the past 6 or so months so one would assume soon since they skipped the 16.12 release[00:30:03] <dodgejcr> they have a name but not a month https://github.com/manjaro/release-plan[00:30:05] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/boftIU] GitHub - manjaro/release-plan: Roadmap for our Manjaro install media releases[00:32:33] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~enkorp@dhcp-198-2-76-101.cable.user.start.ca> has joined #manjaro[00:33:09] *** enkorp <enkorp!~manjaro-i@dhcp-198-2-76-101.cable.user.start.ca> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[00:33:17] *** manjaroi3_ <manjaroi3_!~enkorp@dhcp-198-2-76-101.cable.user.start.ca> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[00:36:49] *** notis <notis!~notis@178.128.25.102.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[00:38:35] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-160-216.adsl.cyta.gr> has joined #manjaro[00:38:50] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:43:09] *** ZaPPeRoo <ZaPPeRoo!~ZaP@66-247-206-186.setardsl.aw> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[00:43:52] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-178-135.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[00:45:35] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[00:47:20] <RSA4096> dodgejcr, ty[00:49:07] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAF09.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[00:50:56] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[00:50:56] *** varikonniemi <varikonniemi!~q@a91-152-223-79.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[00:50:57] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[00:53:10] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[00:57:18] *** rhg1351 <rhg1351!~holoirc@47.189.84.107> has quit IRC (Quit: rhg1351)[01:04:01] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@223.206.246.141> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[01:06:53] *** shazzr <shazzr!~shazzr@ti0086a430-3697.bb.online.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[01:09:00] *** lambda-11235 <lambda-11235!~lambda-11@172.242.252.118> has joined #manjaro[01:11:53] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[01:12:25] *** rhg135 <rhg135!~rhg135@47.189.84.107> has quit IRC (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.in - making IRC 20% cooler)[01:12:41] *** rhg135 <rhg135!~rhg135@47.189.84.107> has joined #manjaro[01:13:34] *** rhg135 <rhg135!~rhg135@47.189.84.107> has quit IRC (Changing host)[01:13:34] *** rhg135 <rhg135!~rhg135@unaffiliated/rhg135> has joined #manjaro[01:13:58] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has joined #manjaro[01:16:47] *** RSA4096 <RSA4096!~RSA4096@188.72.98.69> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:19:37] <nicklas_> just so people know, update today broke 2 packages i know of so far for me, menulibre and razercfg, but removing them, cleaning cache, and then reinstalling them worked[01:20:41] *** nramirezuy <nramirezuy!~nramirezu@r167-62-178-175.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:20:43] <dodgejcr> I didnt have any broken packages but there was some fs conflicts I helped someone with earlier[01:21:11] <nicklas_> like what?[01:21:24] <nicklas_> what was the issues? wanna know if i have it[01:22:16] <dodgejcr> actually it was two people. One had permission issues after the update and one had file exists preventing the update. Minor stuffs but due to the update[01:22:33] <nicklas_> ah[01:22:41] <nicklas_> havent noticed any of those[01:23:06] <roch> o/[01:23:12] <dodgejcr> the permissions one Im not sure was because of the update. It set his whole /usr/share to 775[01:23:23] <nicklas_> lol[01:23:27] <nicklas_> weird[01:23:28] <dodgejcr> easy fix, nothing critical but still a new one on me[01:23:30] <roch> for me only python update broke ranger, fixed by reinstalling ;)[01:23:38] <dodgejcr> mmmm ranger[01:23:57] <roch> yummy :)[01:24:13] <dodgejcr> ive actually gone back to MC recently. It does better for the remoteFS mounting for some reason[01:24:27] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:24:36] <roch> use sshfs , curlftpfs[01:24:58] <roch> can't look at mc now , not going back[01:25:12] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[01:25:13] <dodgejcr> Yeah I know how to do it. The problem was, ranger wasnt working great with it. FTP or NFS[01:25:18] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@1.152.96.246> has joined #manjaro[01:25:24] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@152.166.119.1> has joined #manjaro[01:25:31] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[01:25:42] *** elh9 <elh9!~elh9@gateway/tor-sasl/elh9> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[01:26:00] <dodgejcr> didnt always read the dir, sometimes things would be missing, stupid little things like that.[01:26:06] <roch> yeah, mc net transfers are rock solid, must agree[01:26:31] <dodgejcr> and yeah I never trusted ranger with large transfers :D[01:26:42] <dodgejcr> although, I cant use MC now without the ranger-like controls with the arrow keys[01:26:44] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-178-135.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:26:57] <roch> author sayed they will probably add net features to ranger , maybe this year.[01:27:17] <dodgejcr> that would be nice[01:27:24] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[01:27:29] <dodgejcr> maybe the way they implement it will be more reliable[01:27:57] <roch> fingers crossed ![01:28:04] <dodgejcr> they would be smart to fork MCs way of doing it. Its a very stable method and has been proven to work for YEARS[01:28:52] *** manjaro-kde5-- is now known as Aris[01:29:05] *** Echostrike <Echostrike!~manjaro-k@71-91-211-158.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[01:29:13] <roch> I am in #ranger lurking, guys there also don't trust big transfers to ranger, using rsync[01:29:30] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@93-82-25-90.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[01:29:40] *** Aris is now known as Aris_del_rey[01:30:06] <dodgejcr> yup rsync is a typical way of it for me[01:30:26] <dodgejcr> but #ranger is a great little file manager[01:30:30] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@1.152.96.246> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[01:31:09] <roch> I am small stuff guy ;)[01:31:51] <dodgejcr> I used to keep a tag with just ranger and moc.[01:32:20] <roch> have 65gB dd img file in transfer to ftp using mc now, local net[01:32:45] <roch> dodgejcr, moc ?[01:32:45] <dodgejcr> good luck, hopefully nothing goes wrong[01:32:50] <roch> XD[01:32:56] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~jjol@1.214.89.81> has joined #manjaro[01:32:56] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~jjol@1.214.89.81> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[01:33:10] <dodgejcr> music on console[01:33:24] <roch> mpd client ?[01:33:28] <dodgejcr> very simple console music player if you dont need server/client setup like mpd[01:33:32] <roch> ah[01:33:37] <dodgejcr> nah if you want mpd you know where to go lol[01:33:51] <roch> I failed recently with mpd and pulseaudio, round 2 soon[01:34:41] <roch> I will try moc, I need a player that can play a stream from my phone and all is good[01:35:23] <dodgejcr> moc is really just for local music but Im not certain of all of its features[01:35:51] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has joined #manjaro[01:37:29] *** rbatty <rbatty!~rbatty@cpe-173-88-210-175.neo.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[01:39:33] <Aris_del_rey> i just installed majaro in my laptop[01:39:58] <Aris_del_rey> and i want to make a video review[01:40:15] <Aris_del_rey> i have downloaded voko screen recorder but the result when i make it is corrupt[01:40:30] <Aris_del_rey> anybody can help my[01:41:55] <Aris_del_rey> please[01:42:29] <roch> Aris_del_rey, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Pv2TAXRw5o[01:42:31] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/iW2JFY] How to Install OBS on Linux Tutorial (ArchLinux, Manjaro) - YouTube[01:43:05] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.132> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[01:43:26] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.120.238.132> has joined #manjaro[01:48:19] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@1.152.96.246> has joined #manjaro[01:54:38] *** vingthor <vingthor!5fde1a27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.222.26.39> has joined #manjaro[02:00:57] *** joaojotta <joaojotta!~joaojotta@acb1-84-91-18-209.netvisao.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:01:18] <dodgejcr> Aris_del_rey: I dont know anything about stuff like that, a good person to ask is someone by the name of CountryFiedLinux when he gets here. He does reviews and youtube stuff. He is pretty knowlegable with that stuff[02:01:18] <vingthor> hello people. what is the easiest way to run one line of terminal code every time i boot?[02:01:53] <dodgejcr> vingthor: make a script and run it as a part of autostart apps[02:03:05] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fmpfghlzsjzcbotz> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:03:14] *** lucasem <lucasem!uid147261@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sptrblhrdrzlfybe> has joined #manjaro[02:03:23] <vingthor> i made a script and tried to run it as part of a systemd service, which didnt work[02:04:19] <nicklas_> well, is it a service/module?[02:04:58] <dodgejcr> ehh, I wouldnt do it as a systemd service unless you need too[02:05:08] <dodgejcr> which desktop are you using?[02:05:24] <vingthor> where can i see the autostart apps?[02:05:28] <vingthor> gnome[02:05:35] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ytkersfuupslmviq> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[02:05:39] <nicklas_> you start modules/services with systemd generally[02:05:59] <nicklas_> what is it you want to autostart?[02:06:11] <dodgejcr> vingthor: idk honestly but typically its in ~/.config/autostart[02:07:06] <vingthor> to be honest im quite new to linux, i dont know exactly what it is. i think it is a package?! its called imwheel, it changes my mousewheel speed[02:07:47] <dodgejcr> what exactly is the command that needs to be ran?[02:08:11] <vingthor> imwheel --kill -b 45 //the --kill is optional i guess[02:09:28] <dodgejcr> yeah you can do it with systemd but you would have to write a service file another way is to create a .desktop in /home/<yourusername>/.config/autostart/[02:09:38] <dodgejcr> there should be some .desktop files already there for reference[02:10:04] <vingthor> ahh ok, i found it and will try this way. thank you[02:10:31] *** nicklas_ <nicklas_!~nicklas@c83-255-8-81.bredband.comhem.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[02:14:23] *** `Eddie_ <`Eddie_!~eddie@mot04304.swm.uni-mannheim.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[02:15:04] <Echostrike> What's better rankmirrors, pacman-mirrors -g or reflector? Or are they all about 85% the same and I'll barely notice a difference?[02:15:25] <dodgejcr> Echostrike: for manjaro, use pacman-mirrors -g[02:15:26] *** vingthor <vingthor!5fde1a27@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.95.222.26.39> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[02:15:40] <dodgejcr> but yeah, you probably wont notice a different[02:15:44] <dodgejcr> difference*[02:15:51] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[02:16:06] <Echostrike> Thanks[02:16:38] *** Alex___ <Alex___!5d55053c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.85.5.60> has joined #manjaro[02:17:24] <manjaroi3> still a problem with the font settings. Did any of you manage to succesfully install infinality?[02:18:09] <Alex___> Hi guys. Did someone know why my ethernet and wi-fi not working overall?[02:18:22] <manjaroi3> do yo uhave Broadcom?[02:18:36] <manjaroi3> ooh.. Ethernet not working. That is sheit![02:18:40] <Alex___> Yes, is it[02:19:31] <manjaroi3> Broadcom is sheit on linux in generel. i manage to get it to work on debian a few times. so it is possible. but you have to find the correct driver.[02:20:14] *** kw21 <kw21!~kw21@D978E830.cm-3-1d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[02:20:45] <Alex___> All work but i not use system about few months and now it's not working.[02:21:08] <manjaroi3> any upgrade?[02:22:17] <manjaroi3> you could run a live Manjaro. if that works, then you are certain that its an upgrade isue.[02:22:52] <Alex___> Yes, in live Manjaro all work fine.[02:23:02] <manjaroi3> if that works, and you dont want to spend 2 days figuring out the conflict, then reinstall.[02:23:24] <Alex___> Easy ways not for us :D[02:24:09] <manjaroi3> :D okay. well.. then look up the broadcom issue related to debian and ubuntu. sorry to say, but they have way better support.[02:24:19] <manjaroi3> that should give you a pointer.[02:24:35] <manjaroi3> and find the exact name of your card[02:24:42] <manjaroi3> hope that was useful[02:24:52] *** manjaro-web|5 <manjaro-web|5!2e0990c7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.9.144.199> has joined #manjaro[02:26:24] <Alex___> But how to backup all my settings form current system? Like mouse speed, Synaptic settings, keyboard layout, XFCE prefs? Or all my custom app settings for reinstall?[02:27:03] <Alex___> They have own folder or i must searching for each?[02:27:08] <xangua> Alex___: do you have Separate /home partition?[02:27:38] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:27:38] *** rhg135 <rhg135!~rhg135@unaffiliated/rhg135> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:27:38] *** hybridark <hybridark!~hybridark@outfirmy.jic.cz> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:27:38] *** dfgg <dfgg!damian@195-154-165-176.rev.poneytelecom.eu> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:27:38] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:27:38] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (*.net *.split)[02:27:48] *** shazzr <shazzr!~shazzr@ti0086a430-4003.bb.online.no> has joined #manjaro[02:29:06] <roch> home folder[02:29:07] <Alex___> Whats that mean? Sorry for it, i mostly use it, not check any specialites.[02:29:14] *** Nizumzen <Nizumzen!~Nizumzen@cpc2-reig5-2-0-cust667.6-3.cable.virginm.net> has joined #manjaro[02:29:14] *** rhg135 <rhg135!~rhg135@unaffiliated/rhg135> has joined #manjaro[02:29:14] *** hybridark <hybridark!~hybridark@outfirmy.jic.cz> has joined #manjaro[02:29:14] *** dfgg <dfgg!damian@195-154-165-176.rev.poneytelecom.eu> has joined #manjaro[02:29:14] *** nuuuciano <nuuuciano!~luuuciano@unaffiliated/luuuciano> has joined #manjaro[02:29:14] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[02:29:29] <manjaroi3> ~/.config/xfce4[02:29:42] <roch> separate partitions are so 2000! :d[02:29:43] *** Aris_del_rey <Aris_del_rey!~manjaro-k@152.166.119.1> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:29:48] <manjaroi3> check if thats your config dir[02:32:20] <Echostrike> I just installed Manjaro yesterday. I can't believe how good this KDE implementation is. Maia makes breeze and breeze dark look ugly[02:33:13] <Alex___> Also check KDE today. Looks good but unusual.[02:34:35] *** johnvan_pc <johnvan_pc!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[02:35:04] <Alex___> And any effect try hold alot space.[02:36:35] <manjaroi3> that has to be the most polite thing i have heard all day :D[02:36:35] *** manjaro-web|5 <manjaro-web|5!2e0990c7@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.46.9.144.199> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[02:36:53] *** manjaro-kde5-- is now known as harish2309[02:36:55] <harish2309> Hello[02:38:03] *** Echostrike <Echostrike!~manjaro-k@71-91-211-158.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[02:38:34] <Alex___> Are 17 version enough stable for install?[02:40:17] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@1.152.96.246> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[02:41:00] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[02:42:53] *** louweed <louweed!~louweed@c-67-171-72-216.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[02:43:16] *** Guest16562 <Guest16562!~manjaro-k@pool-98-116-55-253.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has joined #manjaro[02:47:20] *** Sanderski <Sanderski!~kamil@87-207-166-36.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[02:51:11] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~tipz@101.98.141.214> has joined #manjaro[02:51:27] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~tipz@101.98.141.214> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[02:53:13] *** johnvan_pc <johnvan_pc!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:54:04] *** johnvan_pc <johnvan_pc!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[02:54:26] <manjaroi3> strange greens colors in the fonts. how to fix that?[02:56:20] <manjaroi3> im no hardware specielist, but I find it strange that fonts look great on a fresh install on the old T61. but on my T540p its a mess. and i cant get an answer as how to install infinality.[02:56:39] *** johnvan_pc <johnvan_pc!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[02:57:02] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[02:57:03] <manjaroi3> hoping someone else here had to strugle with the font settings, and found the solution.[02:57:57] *** johnvan_pc <johnvan_pc!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[02:59:44] <dodgejcr> manjaroi3 infinality has some packages in the AUR. Have you tried those[03:08:21] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:08:40] *** johnvan <johnvan!~johnvan@toroon2634w-lp130-01-69-158-22-67.dsl.bell.ca> has joined #manjaro[03:10:50] *** louweed <louweed!~louweed@c-67-171-72-216.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[03:15:36] *** pekman <pekman!~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.6)[03:17:22] <roch> 65gB single file transfer succes, mc is god, gn! ;)[03:17:37] *** roch <roch!~roch@89-75-180-57.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Quit: gn.)[03:22:54] <manjaroi3> dodgejcr, i found the packages, but there is a conflict i cant solve. is a force install risky in this case?[03:26:21] <dodgejcr> whats the conflict?[03:29:05] <manjaroi3> fontconfig-infinality conflicts: fontconfig-2.12.1-4[03:29:34] <dodgejcr> yeah thats safe, if it asks to replace hit y for yes[03:29:58] <manjaroi3> it asks edit install.sh? Y7n[03:29:59] <dodgejcr> fontconfig-infinality package is essentially fontconfig with infinality patches coded in[03:30:14] <dodgejcr> nah, shouldnt need to edit anything unless it doesnt build[03:30:35] <manjaroi3> how do i remove fontconfig with pacman?[03:31:41] <manjaroi3> okay. harfbuzz. so that a font manager of some sort?[03:31:42] <dodgejcr> does it not ask upon installing?[03:31:50] *** Isaac <Isaac!~vcore@windows-denmark.cryptostorm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: read error)[03:32:18] <dodgejcr> and im not familiar with harfbuzz. I dont know it's exact purpose[03:32:36] <manjaroi3> FAIL: tests/vertical FAIL: tests/arabic-fallback-shaping[03:33:10] *** chomwitt1 <chomwitt1!~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-61-113.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[03:33:33] <manjaroi3> so it aborts, and then just asks if i want to edit PKGBUILD. and that is a bit above my knowledge.[03:34:56] <dodgejcr> hrm, give me a few minutes I will try to build[03:35:23] <manjaroi3> thank you :)[03:35:32] <dodgejcr> you building through yaourt I take it?[03:36:10] <manjaroi3> on i3. building through AUR. but maybe i should use the terminal instead?[03:36:36] <dodgejcr> its working nicely here using yaourt -S fontconfig-infinality[03:36:45] <dodgejcr> built fine[03:37:08] <dodgejcr> installed fine :D[03:37:35] <manjaroi3> Please add $VISUAL to your environment variables[03:37:40] <manjaroi3> what does this mean?[03:38:10] <dodgejcr> it means you dont have a default editor selected in your .bashrc (or whatever shell's rc you use)[03:38:22] <dodgejcr> nothing crucial but its nice to have it[03:38:53] *** Animtim_ <Animtim_!~timo@21-44-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has joined #manjaro[03:39:24] <manjaroi3> aah.. okay. i have to set that in fish.[03:39:39] <manjaroi3> same errors in terminal. i was not allowed to use sudo.[03:39:47] <dodgejcr> dont use sudo[03:40:20] <manjaroi3> FAIL tests/arabic-fallback-shaping.tests (exit status: 1)[03:40:47] <dodgejcr> im just going to send you the package. Is this for x86_64?[03:40:59] <manjaroi3> yes :)[03:41:06] *** prahlad <prahlad!b65d47f6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.182.93.71.246> has joined #manjaro[03:42:02] <dodgejcr> uploading[03:42:14] *** Animtim <Animtim!~timo@21-44-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[03:42:19] <manjaroi3> awesome :)[03:42:25] <prahlad> hello i am nre in manjaro..[03:42:43] <prahlad> howto install laravel php framework??[03:43:07] <dodgejcr> manjaroi3: manjaro-arm.org/downloads/fontconfig-infinality-2.12.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz[03:43:21] <manjaroi3> go to the laravel website. use homestead and vagrant. that will get you up and running[03:44:14] <dodgejcr> manjaroi3: you will also want to install that with pacman -U[03:44:38] <prahlad> for the laravel which linux is best,,,ubuntu ...or manjaroo.. i have install manjaro[03:44:44] <prahlad> ok bro[03:45:26] <manjaroi3> prahlad, it doesnt matter which distro you use. but beware that vagrant is for dev only. use docker is you want to take it further.[03:50:22] <dodgejcr> manjaroi3: http://manjaro-arm.org/downloads/freetype2-infinality-2.7.1-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.xz that another infinality package that I built. Not sure which is which or what the exact purpose of either are but it cant hurt right :D[03:50:27] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/AUWMj8] (not a web page, content type: application/x-xz)[03:51:04] <manjaroi3> cannot read "freetype2-infinality", depends on "fontconfig-infinality".[03:51:09] *** prahlad <prahlad!b65d47f6@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.182.93.71.246> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[03:51:10] <manjaroi3> will try the next link :)[03:51:46] <manjaroi3> this .xz is only for the software center? or can i use pacman in the teminal?[03:51:46] <dodgejcr> wait, did you install the first one?[03:51:51] <dodgejcr> pacman[03:51:57] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[03:52:05] <manjaroi3> first one failed. i get a warning.[03:52:08] <dodgejcr> quit using the software center lol[03:52:26] <dodgejcr> open terminal, cd to where you downloaded it and type sudo pacman -U <name of package>[03:53:50] *** harish2309 <harish2309!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[03:54:15] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has joined #manjaro[03:54:50] <manjaroi3> okay. it says it cant be upgraded because of unsolveable conflic: fontconfig-infinality[03:55:15] <manjaroi3> so... its already installed, but there is a problem?[03:55:19] <dodgejcr> is this the second one or the first one?[03:55:29] <manjaroi3> that ws the first one[03:55:36] <manjaroi3> will try the second now :)[03:58:10] <dodgejcr> good luck, I need to get my kids in bed and some food. I might be back later.[03:59:22] *** ghavil <ghavil!~ghavil@unaffiliated/geekatcomputers> has quit IRC (Excess Flood)[03:59:22] <manjaroi3> okay. so far so good. it gave me the option to remove freetype2. and it did. so freetype2-infinality is installed now.[03:59:22] <manjaroi3> optionally demo install is libx11.[03:59:22] <manjaroi3> great :) thanks. 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There were some compatibility issues, asked to remove some other things that I was not quite sure what they were. If that makes sense[05:44:12] <Dagwu10> conflicting packages*[05:44:21] <cscs> ??[05:44:34] <cscs> I cant guess at what ffmpeg would be conflicting with[05:44:44] <Dagwu10> 'catalyst-input and xf86-input-acecad are in conflict. Remove xf86-input-acecad?'[05:45:01] <Dagwu10> amongst other things*[05:45:06] <cscs> But theres a HowToForge for it : https://www.howtoforge.com/tutorial/ffmpeg-audio-conversion/[05:45:08] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/qUw4BY] How to use FFMpeg to do simple audio conversion[05:45:36] <Dagwu10> ok will look into[05:46:57] <cscs> That sounds like from updates not an issue from ffmpeg[05:47:19] <Dagwu10> ok have an update pending*[05:48:27] *** Guest16562 <Guest16562!~manjaro-k@pool-98-116-55-253.nycmny.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[05:50:03] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[05:50:13] <cscs> Yeah and since its catalyst with conflicts I'd suggest using terminal/pacman .. "sudo pacman -Syyu"[05:50:40] <Dagwu10> cool thanks*[05:52:23] <cscs> Sure thing .. and if ffmpeg is a little too bare bones for you .. there is also "audio-convert" script in repos, and a number of other apps like "gnac" etc[05:55:51] *** cscs <cscs!~cscs@75-164-202-251.ptld.qwest.net> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[05:56:06] *** cscs <cscs!~cscs@75-164-202-251.ptld.qwest.net> has joined #manjaro[06:03:44] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:03:48] <Dagwu10> cheers***[06:07:15] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.233.176> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[06:07:32] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.233.176> has joined #manjaro[06:08:49] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:12:07] *** Elliot-we|7796 <Elliot-we|7796!b4f7bbd0@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.180.247.187.208> has joined #manjaro[06:14:00] *** Monro <Monro!~Ice9@unaffiliated/monro> has joined #manjaro[06:18:04] *** Elliot-we|7796 is now known as Elliot_Kodi[06:18:41] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[06:23:59] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[06:24:13] *** gothicso_ <gothicso_!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[06:24:42] <manjaroi3> close to fixing my problem wiht the fontrendering on manjaro. one last issue it seems. the strange discolering. is that "hinting"? lxappearance doesnt seem to work. are those values set manually somewhere?[06:24:52] *** Vlado9A <Vlado9A!~Vlado9A@unaffiliated/vlado9a> has joined #manjaro[06:25:16] <manjaroi3> infinality fix works great by the way. highly recommend it.[06:25:45] <dodgejcr> glad you got it working to that point :D[06:26:18] <manjaroi3> wouldnt have gotten there without your help![06:27:07] <manjaroi3> i think its a double problem really. the fonts themselves, and the displaying of those fonts.[06:27:48] <dodgejcr> perhaps. I dont really know much about it. Ive never really had font problems lol.[06:27:56] <manjaroi3> the font replacement seems to work now. the discolering and 3d-like effect is the last issues.[06:28:00] <dodgejcr> and I didnt do anything really. Just ran a command or two[06:28:05] *** rendla <rendla!b752c3f4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.183.82.195.244> has joined #manjaro[06:28:25] <manjaroi3> well.. it solved the package conflict.[06:28:27] <dodgejcr> did you reboot?[06:29:11] <manjaroi3> i rebooted. and i think that did the trick after installation was a succes. its not enough just to logout.[06:29:29] <dodgejcr> yeah that much I do know[06:29:46] <dodgejcr> outside of that, Im useless.[06:30:00] <dodgejcr> I only know things that I have had problems with in the past 15 or so years[06:30:13] <manjaroi3> :D[06:30:36] <manjaroi3> there ought to be groups where linux users can cry together[06:35:05] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[06:37:20] <rendla> Hi everyone[06:37:35] <rhg135> isn't that what we do here, manjaroi3?[06:38:22] <manjaroi3> rhg135, haha.. you are right. that is what we do :D[06:39:58] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[06:40:21] *** rendla <rendla!b752c3f4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.183.82.195.244> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[06:40:32] <rhg135> there are plenty of chats where people talk trash to each other though[06:40:38] *** rendla <rendla!b752c3f4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.183.82.195.244> has joined #manjaro[06:40:39] <rhg135> that makes me sad[06:42:21] <Vlado9A> good morning everyone[06:42:39] <rhg135> good evening Vlado9A[06:42:51] *** cscs <cscs!~cscs@75-164-202-251.ptld.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[06:43:10] <dodgejcr> yeah no trash talking in here :D I tend to kick people for that[06:43:54] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@2a02:c7d:b32f:d700:78ac:6619:bab8:33bc> has joined #manjaro[06:44:03] <dodgejcr> I still need to eat. 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ZZZzzz…)[08:53:40] *** Dearu <Dearu!~georgec@78-160-216.adsl.cyta.gr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[08:55:11] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.234.122.145> has joined #manjaro[08:56:36] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has joined #manjaro[08:57:38] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[08:58:35] <manjaro-web|2464> Hi everyone, i hope this is right place to get quick fix. I have been using manjaro xfce from past couple of months, From last update(~500mb), irrespective of application i am geeting a horizontal blur line at the bottom..i tried different themes and even I reverted from kernel 4.9 to 4.4-lts version... issue seems to persist after reboots..... i[08:58:35] <manjaro-web|2464> can confirm no blur at login window or in windows 7(duel boot).. any suggestions would be much appreciated https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/NL14ayxOSWSlYhDsssbX?signature=1dff02436007526fd2858b146fc6efb9b3fd56d8f25760b8be473458955d8ee9&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0ODQ3MjkyMjd9 https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/jBFiZBIHS3y5aJj0PsJC?signature=1dff0243[08:58:35] <manjaro-web|2464> 6007526fd2858b146fc6efb9b3fd56d8f25760b8be473458955d8ee9&policy=eyJleHBpcnkiOjE0ODQ3MjkyMjd9[08:58:37] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/KPpqO1] (not a web page, content type: image/png)[08:59:50] <nullm0dem> odd issue, this might no be muh help but have you tried turning off composting under desktop settings?[09:00:50] <manjaro-web|2464> no, let me check[09:00:57] <nullm0dem> window manager tweaks > composter[09:01:05] <nullm0dem> errr[09:01:19] <nullm0dem> compositor :)[09:02:20] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991EB6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:04:00] <manjaro-web|2464> omg, that worked[09:04:06] <manjaro-web|2464> thanks mate[09:04:44] <manjaro-web|2464> :-)[09:06:26] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has joined #manjaro[09:06:28] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:06:58] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has joined #manjaro[09:07:23] *** djb-irc <djb-irc!~djb-irc@129.13.154.138> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[09:08:48] *** manjaro-web|2464 <manjaro-web|2464!b752c3f4@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.183.82.195.244> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[09:12:40] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-phllopxahbdbaytz> has joined #manjaro[09:14:48] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@94.242.252.29> has joined #manjaro[09:15:47] *** wvi <wvi!~wvi@ip-78-45-199-33.net.upcbroadband.cz> has joined #manjaro[09:17:08] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@14.141.219.169> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:17:15] *** nullm0dem <nullm0dem!~pi@ip68-106-90-181.rn.hr.cox.net> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 1.0.1)[09:17:34] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@14.141.219.169> has joined #manjaro[09:23:16] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.237.177> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:23:27] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.245.19> has joined #manjaro[09:23:44] *** stiky <stiky!~stiky@d173-183-64-136.bchsia.telus.net> has joined #manjaro[09:24:19] *** lukasb <lukasb!~lukasb@93.91.49.2> has joined #manjaro[09:25:35] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.245.19> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:25:52] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.241.153> has joined #manjaro[09:26:10] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has joined #manjaro[09:26:24] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.241.153> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:26:33] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.241.153> has joined #manjaro[09:26:35] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-e2db-0-f5e2-5928-a49-9d14.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[09:26:44] *** Matombo <Matombo!~Matombo@p57991EB6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[09:27:36] <prillian5> since last upgrade (kde) my mouse is slow. I have an Trackball and like to swipe from 1 screen left border to right-screen right-borden with nearly one ball-roll.[09:27:44] <prillian5> now I have to roll surveral times.[09:28:04] <prillian5> xset q | grep -A 1 Pointer returns:[09:28:08] *** lukasb <lukasb!~lukasb@93.91.49.2> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[09:28:15] <prillian5> acceleration: 200/10 threshold: 2[09:28:30] *** ceka <ceka!~ok@anon-38-16.vpn.ipredator.se> has joined #manjaro[09:29:22] <prillian5> I remember before I have to watch out not to adjust accleration to high, because the pointer was increddible fast.[09:29:33] <prillian5> now it seems not have a real effect anymore[09:31:14] *** japonecka <japonecka!~ok@anon-38-188.vpn.ipredator.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[09:33:37] *** stiky <stiky!~stiky@d173-183-64-136.bchsia.telus.net> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[09:36:50] *** ceka <ceka!~ok@anon-38-16.vpn.ipredator.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[09:37:42] <d42> prillian5: welcome to the magical world of libinput[09:38:33] <cor1u1m> hi! is there a command to check after an update/upgrade that everything went fine? something that would check that there is no conflict and that the system is stable?[09:38:39] <prillian5> libinput from hell ^^[09:39:23] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.241.153> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:39:29] <d42> on arch i just removed libinput rules from /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ,_,[09:39:39] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.237.177> has joined #manjaro[09:40:15] <d42> it might not be the best solution, but it's the only one that worked for my trackpoint :v[09:46:03] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAF06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[09:48:42] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.237.177> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[09:48:58] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.237.177> has joined #manjaro[09:52:34] *** `Eddie_ <`Eddie_!~eddie@mot04304.swm.uni-mannheim.de> has joined #manjaro[09:57:39] <prillian5> d42: seems that for trackball isn't accleration-speed anymore[09:57:42] <prillian5> only for touchpad[10:03:15] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-e2db-0-f5e2-5928-a49-9d14.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[10:07:18] *** eNTi <eNTi!~eNTi@178-190-30-64.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[10:10:51] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-092-078-246-186.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[10:12:22] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has joined #manjaro[10:15:18] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-e2db-0-f5e2-5928-a49-9d14.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[10:22:01] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.237.177> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:22:24] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.242.207> has joined #manjaro[10:23:05] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dieeefqtwqqiurde> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[10:24:59] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.242.207> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:25:14] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.237.177> has joined #manjaro[10:26:02] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@dhcp-19-19.cs.uit.no> has joined #manjaro[10:27:37] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.237.177> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[10:28:03] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.242.207> has joined #manjaro[10:29:01] *** jarco_ <jarco_!~jarco@dD5E0341A.access.telenet.be> has joined #manjaro[10:29:32] *** Totalkrill <Totalkrill!~Total_Kri@185.32.10.80> has joined #manjaro[10:29:35] <PMunch> Hmm, the new update throws all manners of errors[10:29:46] <PMunch> Easily fixed but might be confusing to newcomers[10:32:43] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@77-252-76-86.static.ip.netia.com.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:33:58] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@77-252-76-86.static.ip.netia.com.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:34:07] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@77-252-76-86.static.ip.netia.com.pl> has joined #manjaro[10:34:47] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@77-252-76-86.static.ip.netia.com.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[10:34:54] <thid> PMunch: yo[10:34:58] <thid> PMunch: what errors ?[10:35:27] <jarco_> lol removing akonadi-qt4 breaks dependency 'akonadi-qt4'[10:35:43] <thid> xD[10:35:50] <jarco_> hehe[10:35:54] <jarco_> linux is awesome[10:37:53] <thid> sometimes[10:38:16] <PMunch> Yeah mostly stuff like that[10:38:29] <PMunch> I was getting xorg-server and xf86-input-acecad are in conflict (X-ABI-XINPUT_VERSION). Remove xf86-input-acecad?[10:38:44] <PMunch> And another for joystick[10:39:01] <PMunch> Then it complained about: python2-setuptools: /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/pkg_resources/__init__.pyc exists in filesystem[10:39:47] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.242.207> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[10:40:45] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[10:41:10] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-e2db-0-f5e2-5928-a49-9d14.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:42:14] *** noexxx <noexxx!~androirc@114.121.237.177> has joined #manjaro[10:43:16] *** prillian5 <prillian5!~prillian5@2001-4dd4-e2db-0-f5e2-5928-a49-9d14.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de> has joined #manjaro[10:43:35] <prillian5> d42: got it[10:43:49] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-trgmdgvoozdqacwm> has joined #manjaro[10:45:38] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[10:47:40] *** manjaro-web|4341 <manjaro-web|4341!d9f40462@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.217.244.4.98> has joined #manjaro[10:48:20] *** manjaro-web|4341 <manjaro-web|4341!d9f40462@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.217.244.4.98> has left #manjaro[10:55:22] *** s8321414 <s8321414!~s8321414@150.117.137.90> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[10:57:44] <prillian5> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/41716250/logitech-m570-trackball-to-slow-on-linux/41716251#41716251[10:57:46] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/csFLxS] mouse - Logitech M570 Trackball to slow on linux - Stack Overflow[10:58:43] *** forgottenone <forgottenone!~forgotten@176.234.122.145> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[10:58:44] <prillian5> how can I add a new issue at bugs.manjaro.org? Didn't see a button for this?![10:59:38] <prillian5> Maybe somebody of the manjaro-team could add my stackoverflow-paste above to the bug-tracker?![11:00:18] <prillian5> Got it, have to choose a Sub-Category first[11:02:27] *** noy|b <noy|b!~noyfb@pa49-182-4-210.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has joined #manjaro[11:02:38] <noy|b> Hey does anyone here use pychess?[11:03:00] <prillian5> not me[11:03:14] <noy|b> Everytime I move a panel it crashes[11:06:12] *** freecores <freecores!~freecores@ip30-67-214-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl> has joined #manjaro[11:07:44] *** noy|b <noy|b!~noyfb@pa49-182-4-210.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au> has left #manjaro ("I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. - Evelyn Beatrice Hall ")[11:11:05] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-phllopxahbdbaytz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:21:40] *** Fooguo <Fooguo!~Fooguo@97-126-35-74.tukw.qwest.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[11:23:28] *** Preto 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has joined #manjaro[12:02:15] *** Snake1130 <Snake1130!~MakerBlak@d24-204-245-71.home4.cgocable.net> has joined #manjaro[12:04:10] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:08:09] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@host86-171-89-36.range86-171.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:10:49] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has joined #manjaro[12:16:17] *** live <live!~live@117.201.112.192> has joined #manjaro[12:16:33] *** freecores <freecores!~freecores@ip30-67-214-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Offline)[12:16:46] <live> hello guys where can i get a new updated latest iso of manjaro linux?[12:17:10] <live> i don't want to update after installing the new iso[12:17:21] <live> 16.10 has 1 gb of updates to download[12:17:24] <live> thanks[12:18:38] <Vlado9A> live: there's always need to update a fresh manjaro installation, no matter how old latest manjaro iso is[12:22:37] <thid> ^[12:22:49] <thid> just run sudo pacman -Syyu[12:24:34] <live> oh in fedora u can get latest iso with all the updates[12:24:49] <live> i meant to say that isos are updated[12:24:56] <thid> live manjaro is rolling distro[12:25:04] <thid> fedora is not[12:25:53] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-092-078-246-186.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[12:27:10] <live> can you tell me about the release schedule of manjaro?[12:27:22] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has joined #manjaro[12:27:22] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Strit_Laptop[12:27:35] <live> is it launched after 2 months interval like 16.08 16.10[12:29:26] <whytrytofly> hi[12:29:31] <live> hello[12:29:31] <whytrytofly> im having a major problem...[12:29:47] <whytrytofly> i have multi screens[12:29:48] <whytrytofly> 2[12:30:05] <whytrytofly> when using wine, i can only show programs on one of the 2 screens[12:30:20] <live> are you using xfce?[12:30:40] <Strit_Laptop> I can use wine programs on both of mine[12:31:11] <thid> live: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/About_Manjaro[12:31:12] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/XWlrPO] About Manjaro - Manjaro Linux[12:31:30] <whytrytofly> live, i am sometimes using xfce - but now lxqt[12:31:43] <whytrytofly> Strit_Laptop, i did net installation[12:32:29] *** enkeys <enkeys!enkeys@nat/redhat/x-qsjcgntzwbcreipj> has joined #manjaro[12:32:40] <thid> using net install from the start is bad choice[12:32:48] <whytrytofly> from the start?[12:33:09] <thid> if udont have experience in arch/manjaro :D[12:33:16] <whytrytofly> hm...been using arch before[12:33:23] <whytrytofly> but maybe i still am unexperienced[12:33:27] <whytrytofly> =)[12:33:45] <live> i have no idea about multi monitor but i think you should try gnome shell[12:33:48] <whytrytofly> i had to manually add my resolution to the xorg[12:33:57] <whytrytofly> i feel like its related to that[12:34:12] *** trtl <trtl!~Turtle@unaffiliated/trtl> has 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live: it's a bot. :)[12:38:04] <live> ehehe[12:38:21] <live> nice[12:40:10] *** live <live!~live@117.201.112.192> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[12:40:11] <whytrytofly> brb[12:40:15] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-092-078-246-186.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[12:40:59] <thid> back[12:41:17] <thid> damn :/ have to upgrade 8 kvm wih windows server and 6 proxmox T_T[12:41:40] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[12:41:58] *** chomwitt1 <chomwitt1!~chomwitt@ppp-94-66-61-113.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[12:42:24] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@a109-49-80-116.cpe.netcabo.pt> has joined #manjaro[12:42:52] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@a109-49-80-116.cpe.netcabo.pt> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[12:43:19] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[12:43:28] *** whytrytofly 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rounding interval to 128 microframes, ep desc says 255 microframes[13:15:02] <PMunch> And a third line for ep 0x2, but it doesn't show up in lsblk[13:15:37] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[13:15:38] <jarco_> PMunch, did you recently update[13:15:55] <jarco_> kernel update to be precise?[13:16:28] <PMunch> Recently updated but not kernel[13:16:47] <PMunch> Running 4.4.41[13:17:19] *** abnqeut <abnqeut!~abnqeut@unaffiliated/abnqeut> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[13:17:50] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:20:48] *** whytrytofly <whytrytofly!~whytrytof@dslb-092-078-246-186.092.078.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[13:21:47] <PMunch> brb[13:21:49] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@dhcp-19-19.cs.uit.no> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[13:24:09] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@dhcp-19-19.cs.uit.no> has joined 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I see that is from Feb 2016. Is there a know issue with luks encryption that has recently cropped up? My manjaro instance locked up and now I can't boot. it doesn't ask for my password, it just freezes on boot. I'm able to chroot in, I tried updating everything but it hasn't helped.[15:08:00] *** j09 <j09!c2bbfb7e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.187.251.126> has joined #manjaro[15:08:15] *** sooorajjj <sooorajjj!~sooorajjj@14.141.219.169> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[15:08:20] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[15:08:38] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@103.5.134.167> has joined #manjaro[15:08:38] <j09> Hi, where's the xorg.conf file in Manjaro? I've tried saving my nvidia-settings to /etc/X11/xorg.conf but the settings have stuck. What am I doing wrong?[15:10:11] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[15:10:51] *** `Eddie__ <`Eddie__!~eddie@mot04304.swm.uni-mannheim.de> has joined #manjaro[15:11:04] <j09> I just found out how to do it on the wiki, but jeees, why is such important info so far down the page? Yeesh[15:11:11] <ggr> j09: /etc/X11/mhwd.d/nvidia.conf[15:11:24] <j09> thanks ggr[15:11:45] *** cor1u1m <cor1u1m!~corium@94.242.252.29> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[15:11:51] <j09> I assumed it was the same as my last distro, (newbie error on my part)[15:12:36] <ggr> j09: i found it as follows.. first, find -name '*nvidia*' | less .. then in less search for X11[15:12:48] *** Makaveli7 <Makaveli7!~Makaveli7@88.247.118.243> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[15:13:00] <ggr> find has to be run in the root folder of course[15:13:15] <ggr> cd /[15:13:24] <j09> good thinking, i must rememebr that[15:13:58] *** `Eddie_ <`Eddie_!~eddie@mot04304.swm.uni-mannheim.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)[15:15:43] *** j09 <j09!c2bbfb7e@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.187.251.126> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[15:19:20] *** manjaro-web|4561 <manjaro-web|4561!dfa68d37@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.223.166.141.55> has joined #manjaro[15:20:02] *** manjaro-web|4561 <manjaro-web|4561!dfa68d37@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.223.166.141.55> has left #manjaro[15:20:55] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~ingo@p200300764F538703021A73FFFE53608C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[15:21:37] *** Manj-811-Xfce <Manj-811-Xfce!~ingo@p200300764F538703021A73FFFE53608C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:23:40] *** Strit_Laptop <Strit_Laptop!~strit@87-62-150-162-static.dk.customer.tdc.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[15:24:32] *** Mark__T <Mark__T!~mark@foresight/developer/mark> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.)[15:26:34] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@dhcp-5-186-125-16.cgn.ip.fibianet.dk> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving)[15:26:52] <b0n> or you could just sudo find / -name '*nvidia' | less[15:27:27] *** newbie1996 <newbie1996!81f1830d@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.129.241.131.13> has joined #manjaro[15:27:42] *** xangua <xangua!uid19036@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pfbzndoqycxharpm> has joined #manjaro[15:28:28] <newbie1996> Hi, is it the right channel to ask some questions about Manjaro?[15:28:40] <newbie1996> or should I take it in offtopic?[15:29:55] <b0n> you should be fine to ask them here[15:31:18] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Quit: badbodh)[15:31:41] <newbie1996> As you may guess I'm new to Manjaro, so this question may be stupid but I'm wondering: How do I customize my keyboard? I want to be able to write some specilic simbols when i press lets say a+alt gr[15:31:54] <newbie1996> should i modify keyboardlayout or keymap?[15:32:41] <newbie1996> I've tired the wiki methon but I see no results and the xmodmap method just makes a empty file[15:33:48] <newbie1996> *symbols[15:34:06] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@41.51.134.226> has joined #manjaro[15:35:11] <b0n> use dbus[15:35:38] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@41.51.134.226> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[15:35:43] <b0n> do you mean like..symbols as in different languages like 라어히랓픂?[15:36:10] *** Lowl3v3l_ <Lowl3v3l_!~Lowl3v3l@dslb-088-073-023-041.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #manjaro[15:36:11] *** PMunch <PMunch!~PMunch@dhcp-19-19.cs.uit.no> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[15:36:16] *** manjaroi3 <manjaroi3!~manjaro-i@41.51.134.226> has joined #manjaro[15:36:37] *** Lowl3v3l <Lowl3v3l!~Lowl3v3l@ipservice-092-208-178-135.092.208.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 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more specific channel i should be asking this stuff on?[18:54:22] <inahd> im just not really sure what is responsible for what exactly[18:57:01] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[18:57:02] *** fatalhalt <fatalhalt!~fatalhalt@c-73-246-193-29.hsd1.il.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Max SendQ exceeded)[18:57:56] *** ZaPPeRoo <ZaPPeRoo!~ZaP@66-247-200-203.setardsl.aw> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[18:58:28] *** Colt <Colt!~Colt@79-101-232-2.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[18:58:29] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[18:59:36] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@77.79.188.47.dynamic.igs.ufanet.ru> has joined #manjaro[18:59:43] <manjaro> Hello[19:00:35] <whytrytofly> anyone using gnoe here[19:00:36] <whytrytofly> gnome[19:01:12] *** Lowl3v3l_ is now known as Lowl3v3l[19:02:23] <whytrytofly> i have problems binding Super+F1 and Super+M[19:02:32] *** emptynine <emptynine!tkk@cybertron.nullroute.info> has joined #manjaro[19:04:08] <BugzBunny> inahd, yo yo you[19:04:21] <BugzBunny> inahd, What's the matter?[19:05:26] <manjaro> If I use live-cd, can I save files or download applications?[19:05:59] <BugzBunny> no, live-cd filesystem is loaded in ram, shutdown pc, all data is lost[19:06:03] <whytrytofly> manjaro, no[19:06:14] <whytrytofly> manjaro, well you can on your hard disk[19:06:29] <BugzBunny> LiveUSB with persistent storage layer is possible..[19:06:31] <manjaro> Ok[19:06:38] <whytrytofly> manjaro, but you have to know where that is[19:06:44] <whytrytofly> manjaro, why are you asking[19:07:19] <inahd> ah BugzBunny trying to get screen brightness keys working[19:07:44] <BugzBunny> And? Not working?[19:07:54] <inahd> good news is that i can change from command line[19:08:04] <BugzBunny> Nice nice[19:08:26] <BugzBunny> Maybe there is brightness app on Linux Store xD[19:08:28] <BugzBunny> :-p[19:08:31] *** mike-zal <mike-zal!~michaldyb@acln207.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #manjaro[19:08:32] <inahd> this laptop is supposed to have 10hr battery, is only giving 3[19:08:44] <BugzBunny> damn[19:09:04] <inahd> i could have sworn i got it close to 7 once upon a time.[19:09:36] <BugzBunny> You never changed the battery?[19:09:46] <BugzBunny> Recharge cells might be dying :-p[19:10:52] <inahd> no its not that[19:11:06] <inahd> just i think playing with kernels and this and that.[19:11:18] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@77.79.188.47.dynamic.igs.ufanet.ru> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:11:33] <inahd> maybe i reinstalled over the efficient setup, i can't keep track[19:11:40] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@77.79.188.47.dynamic.igs.ufanet.ru> has joined #manjaro[19:11:50] *** manjaro <manjaro!~manjaro@77.79.188.47.dynamic.igs.ufanet.ru> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[19:12:25] <BugzBunny> It's going to dye anyway.. well.. yeah.. I guess you already know about laptop-tools, pw utills, cpu governor, etc etc..[19:12:27] <BugzBunny> :-p[19:13:13] <inahd> kinda[19:13:46] *** astrofog <astrofog!~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog> has quit IRC (Quit: Quite)[19:13:50] <inahd> controlling the brightness should be a good start.[19:14:15] <inahd> i would like to disable ethernet port in bios, heard that was a thin[19:14:16] <inahd> g[19:15:50] <inahd> amending ath9k to conserve wireless on battery, might have worked? some of these things are too subtle to notice.[19:16:54] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~elijah@67.148.122.154> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[19:17:37] <BugzBunny> Yup :)[19:18:29] *** HamRadio <HamRadio!~elijah@67.148.122.154> has joined #manjaro[19:27:13] *** gvid_pw <gvid_pw!689cf092@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.104.156.240.146> has joined #manjaro[19:27:22] *** manjaro-kde5 <manjaro-kde5!~manjaro-k@169-0-180-211.ip.afrihost.co.za> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)[19:27:50] <gvid_pw> So manjaro should set up a bitcoin address for donations. 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are you new here[20:34:28] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@89-70-91-206.dynamic.chello.pl> has joined #manjaro[20:34:54] *** KaanOzturk <KaanOzturk!~KaanOztur@176.232.13.127> has joined #manjaro[20:34:55] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@89-70-91-206.dynamic.chello.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:36:58] <KaanOzturk> hello i recently installed manjaro linux onto a usb drive and during installation i choose the option to install everything onto the usb drive thinking it would leave my computer untouched however after the install finished and i removed the usb to boot back into windows a black screen came up with an error and something about grub rescue then i proceeded to plug the usb back in to see if that was working which it did i could boot into the os i[20:36:58] <KaanOzturk> <KaanOzturk> installed onto the usb drive or into windows through the multi boot screen i also checked my regular windows drives after getting into windows and did not notice any changes as far as i could see but nontheless when i try starting the computer without the usb plugged in i keep getting the same error screen. I dont know much about unix or grub but im guessing at siome point i did something wrong and it installed the bootmngr into one[20:36:59] <KaanOzturk> of my hard[20:37:01] <KaanOzturk> <KaanOzturk> drives(i am sure i choose the usb during installation for everything so i have no idea where i messed up) can anybody tell me what i did wrong and if i can remove grub from my computer so it boots straight into windows when the usb is not present?[20:37:47] <KaanOzturk> sorry for the weird question format i asked it at a different room and just copied it to here[20:39:38] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[20:40:13] <Kjeldmis> KaanOzturk: Hi and welcome[20:40:30] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:40:37] *** magican <magican!~magican@90-225-28-177-no123.bredband.skanova.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[20:40:40] <KaanOzturk> Kjeldmis: hello[20:40:50] *** marco-parillo <marco-parillo!d8cb060b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.203.6.11> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[20:41:13] *** manjaro-web|9705 <manjaro-web|9705!495295f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.82.149.242> has joined #manjaro[20:41:17] <Kjeldmis> The problem you describe indicate that you did not install the bootloader on your USB flash drive[20:42:12] <Kjeldmis> You would need to remove grub from the harddrive you installed it to, and run Windows boot repair[20:43:03] <Kjeldmis> After that, you would need to boot a live media, insert the USB device you have installed Manjaro to, and install the grub bootloader to it.[20:43:18] *** b0n <b0n!~b0nnie@50.0.102.130> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[20:43:56] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[20:44:07] <Kjeldmis> You can do this manually, and if the install is intact it will only take a few minutes to install the bootloader correctly. And thats it.[20:45:25] <KaanOzturk> Kjeldmis> thanks how would i unintall grub as i dont know what i am looking for and during the installation i did choose to install it onto the drive as far as i can remember but the install failed a few times and i only realized the bootmanager location later and installed everything onto the usb on my last try the error it gave when the install failed was a bad source error if it matters[20:47:45] *** manjaro-web|9705 <manjaro-web|9705!495295f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.82.149.242> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[20:48:08] *** manjaro-web|9678 <manjaro-web|9678!495295f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.82.149.242> has joined #manjaro[20:48:37] <Kjeldmis> KaanOzturk: It depends. Do you have a UEFI or BIOS based boot system?[20:48:53] *** robin0800 <robin0800!robin0800@cpc83567-brig19-2-0-cust960.3-3.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[20:50:02] *** manjaro-web|9678 <manjaro-web|9678!495295f2@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.73.82.149.242> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:50:20] <KaanOzturk> Kjeldmis> when i boot into windows i use legacy mode because windows had a few problems with uefi if thats what you mean by boot sytem[20:51:32] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@41.108.165.210> has joined #manjaro[20:52:29] <PMunch> What's the currently bundled archive tool with Manjaro?[20:52:48] *** arnt <arnt!~quassel@201-34-73-178.cslce300.ipd.brasiltelecom.net.br> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[20:53:09] <KaanOzturk> Kjeldmis>when i go into my bios i can choose between uefi legacy and uefi with csm but as i said im using legacy mode[20:53:36] <Kjeldmis> Legacy boot is basically the old BIOS boot system.[20:54:18] <BugzBunny> yo yo yo[20:54:28] <Kjeldmis> There is no need to remove GRUB manually then, Windows boot repair will take care of that.[20:55:24] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1E4D4EF70606A9F8F318.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[20:56:06] *** vexare <vexare!uid37544@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mlvijcufdbtuwefj> has joined #manjaro[20:56:06] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v vexare[20:56:09] <Kjeldmis> KaanOzturk: I would advise you to switch to UEFI at some point - It makes your system faster, easier to manage and more secure.[20:56:36] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~genius@37-145-122-84.broadband.corbina.ru> has joined #manjaro[20:56:44] <Kjeldmis> or, it reduces boot times, it doesnt make your system run faster when its booted fully.[20:56:58] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@41.108.165.210> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[20:57:10] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has joined #manjaro[20:57:42] <KaanOzturk> Kjeldmis>it takes about a second or less to boot so im not that bothered by it so if i run windows boot repair it would automatically delete grub thanks a lot for your help and one last question is there a way to test if the usb is working properly and if the boot loader is installed into it[20:58:50] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~genius@37-145-122-84.broadband.corbina.ru> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[20:59:16] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt2 <Manj-1611-Lxqt2!~genius@37-145-122-84.broadband.corbina.ru> has joined #manjaro[20:59:32] *** molerat <molerat!~molerat@91.214.69.11> has joined #manjaro[20:59:36] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt2 is now known as genyok[21:00:05] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:00:29] <Kjeldmis> KaanOzturk: yes, plug it in, see if it boots, if it doesnt, the bootloader isnt properly installed. I would try to install the bootloader to it using a live media, then try booting it again. If it still wont boot, the core system is probably not installed correctly - in that case, format the disk and start the install again.[21:00:46] <PMunch> Anyone?[21:01:31] <Kjeldmis> PMunch: for GUI or terminal?[21:01:36] <PMunch> GUI[21:01:45] <PMunch> My install is using xarchiver[21:01:49] <PMunch> And it's a complete disaster..[21:02:19] <Kjeldmis> well. just install another one then.[21:02:28] <BugzBunny> tar?[21:02:30] <BugzBunny> bzip[21:02:36] <BugzBunny> p7zip[21:02:43] <BugzBunny> Whatelse?[21:02:46] <BugzBunny> :-p[21:02:50] <PMunch> I have a newer install of Manjaro at work though[21:02:58] <PMunch> And I quite like the one that's used there[21:03:09] <PMunch> And I was wondering if anyone know what the current versions ship with[21:03:09] <BugzBunny> For gui, I always went with that gnome-archiver, don't know what's it alled[21:03:15] *** akirabit <akirabit!~bit@39.red-95-125-10.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has joined #manjaro[21:03:19] *** Preto <Preto!~sebastian@2003:7f:cf41:2400:6eec:3293:d565:7edf> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:03:21] <BugzBunny> file-roller IIRC[21:03:37] <BugzBunny> No idea :)[21:03:39] <PMunch> Hmm, file-roller is pretty nice..[21:03:48] <Kjeldmis> I use fileroller and have always been quite pleased with it.[21:03:51] <BugzBunny> Arch Linux doesn't ship with anyahing muahahahahaha[21:03:52] <Kjeldmis> I wouldnt use it for KDE tho[21:03:59] <BugzBunny> oO[21:04:09] <PMunch> I'm using i3, so that's not a problem[21:04:38] <genyok> Hi everyone! Just have installed manjaro with lxqt. Everything worked fine until update all packages in pacman. Now I can't move and resize windows using mouse. Can anybody help?[21:04:52] <KaanOzturk> Kjeldmis> im guessing you mean try booting it on a different computer since this one already lets me boot into it without a problem as far as manjaro is concerned[21:05:30] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[21:05:40] <molerat> which torrent client in Linux has a feature to «Stop/Pause» and «Start/Resume» all downloads at once? Without the need to select them with the mouse.[21:06:21] <hedgie> probably a CLI version of one of them[21:06:33] <Kjeldmis> KaanOzturk: yes, to be sure, try booting it on a different system. Keep in mind that the system must be a BIOS system, or set to either CSM or Legacy boot.[21:07:07] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@2602:306:c577:2310:91b3:45e3:86e5:8d53> has joined #manjaro[21:07:07] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@2602:306:c577:2310:91b3:45e3:86e5:8d53> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:07:07] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has joined #manjaro[21:07:41] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[21:08:38] <Kjeldmis> molerat: most of them support multiselection using the keyboard. CTRL+A and CTRL+P toggles pause & resume in qbittorrent for example.[21:08:43] <PMunch> Oh wait, xarchiver is the one I use at work[21:08:48] <PMunch> And file-roller is the horrible one[21:08:55] * NanoSector moos[21:09:10] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has joined #manjaro[21:09:16] <NanoSector> molerat: probably any client that lets you do ctrl+a?[21:10:19] <molerat> NanoSector, without ctrl+a I mean, just one button on the panel to Pause/Resume them all[21:11:03] <molerat> Kjeldmis, ok, got it, thx)[21:11:04] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:11:19] <NanoSector> oh, didn't see his reply[21:11:39] *** Kuvis <Kuvis!~owner@line-5232.dyn.kponet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:12:15] <hedgie> transmission has under the file menu options for start all and pause all[21:12:22] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[21:12:54] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@2602:306:c577:2310:91b3:45e3:86e5:8d53> has joined #manjaro[21:12:54] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@2602:306:c577:2310:91b3:45e3:86e5:8d53> has quit IRC (Changing host)[21:12:54] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has joined #manjaro[21:13:11] <PMunch> Hmm, apparently file-roller is a dependency of font-manager..[21:13:15] <PMunch> Which is quite nice[21:13:17] <NanoSector> wat[21:13:21] <PMunch> Mhm..[21:13:48] <PMunch> So now I just got to wrestle with xdg-open to get it to use Xarchiver instead of file-roller..[21:14:00] <PMunch> Is there a utility to control xdg-open?[21:14:00] <Kjeldmis> molerat: come to think of it, qbittorrent supports this using CTRL+SHIFT+S for Start all and CTRL+SHIFT+P for Pause all[21:14:04] <PMunch> It's always such a pain..[21:15:35] *** omar__ <omar__!~omar@141.84.69.85> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:17:00] *** TheGoose_ <TheGoose_!~TheGoose_@unaffiliated/thegoose-/x-3756847> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:17:19] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@109.201.74.6> has joined #manjaro[21:17:21] *** manjaroDeepin <manjaroDeepin!~Manjaro-D@109.201.74.6> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:18:26] *** NNN <NNN!~test@178.137.246.131> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[21:19:07] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@79.172.69.236> has joined #manjaro[21:20:25] *** zshfu <zshfu!~zshfu@unaffiliated/zshfu> has joined #manjaro[21:20:41] *** molerat <molerat!~molerat@91.214.69.11> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:22:24] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~androirc@unaffiliated/mallowmow> has joined #manjaro[21:22:44] <mallowmow> Has anyone had trouble booting with the new update?[21:22:49] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has joined #manjaro[21:22:55] <NanoSector> mallowmow: what issues are you having?[21:23:17] <mallowmow> I get "could not start kdeinit5. Check your installation."[21:23:19] *** NNN <NNN!~test@178.137.246.131> has joined #manjaro[21:23:34] <NanoSector> sounds like kde didn't get completely installed[21:23:45] <mallowmow> I saw this link https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=289&t=138332[21:24:10] <mallowmow> Feels like it could be my issue but I don't know how to implement the solution, I'm afraid[21:24:30] <mallowmow> As there were some conflicts at the beginning of the updates[21:24:30] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[21:24:42] <NanoSector> drop to a TTY (ctrl+alt+f2), login, and 'sudo pacman -S freetype2'[21:25:08] *** iv3c <iv3c!~iv3c@unaffiliated/iv3c> has joined #manjaro[21:25:55] <mallowmow> Thanks NanoSector, let me try that[21:26:04] <NanoSector> :)[21:28:09] <mallowmow> NanoSector, sorry if this is a stupid question, is the login name in a particular format?[21:28:25] <NanoSector> it's the same as the name of your home directory, most likely[21:28:44] <NanoSector> my home directory is /home/rkerkhof so my username is rkerkhof[21:30:10] <mallowmow> Awesome, just running the command now, seems there is a conflict between freetype2 and freetype-infinality-ultimate[21:30:18] <NanoSector> remove the latter[21:30:38] *** manjaro-kde5-- <manjaro-kde5--!~manjaro-k@79.172.69.236> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[21:30:53] <mallowmow> Tried to but I got an error message, failed to prepare transaction[21:30:58] <NanoSector> hmm[21:31:21] <NanoSector> does it not ask you if you want to remove freetype-infinality-ultimate?[21:31:27] *** genyok <genyok!~genius@37-145-122-84.broadband.corbina.ru> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:31:37] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@5.172.232.129> has joined #manjaro[21:31:55] *** manj-budgie <manj-budgie!~manjaro-b@5.172.232.129> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:32:01] <mallowmow> Yes, and when I type y, it comes up with the error message, breaking a dependency[21:32:11] <NanoSector> hmm[21:32:19] <NanoSector> what packages does 'pacman -Qs infinality' show?[21:32:38] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@5ED2D6E2.cm-7-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has joined #manjaro[21:32:40] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~manjaro@5ED2D6E2.cm-7-3d.dynamic.ziggo.nl> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:33:24] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt <Manj-1611-Lxqt!~genius@37-145-122-84.broadband.corbina.ru> has joined #manjaro[21:33:24] *** Manj-1611-Lxqt is now known as evgeny[21:33:44] *** evgeny is now known as genyok[21:34:33] <mallowmow> It comes up with cario-infinality-ultimate, font config-infinality-ultimate, freetype2 -infinality-ultimate, lib32-infinality-ultimate and ttf-oxygen-ibx[21:35:01] <mallowmow> Fontconfig and lib32-infinality-ultimate are the ones involved in the error previously[21:35:31] <NanoSector> you sure it's lib32-infinality-ultimate?[21:35:48] *** KaanOzturk <KaanOzturk!~KaanOztur@176.232.13.127> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[21:36:10] <mallowmow> Sorry it's lib32-freetype2-infinality-ultimate[21:36:13] <mallowmow> Good spot[21:36:16] <NanoSector> sudo pacman -S fontconfig freetype2 cairo ttf-oxygen lib32-freetype2[21:36:29] <NanoSector> :)[21:37:52] <mallowmow> So, cairo and cario-infinality-ultimate are in conflict, shall I remove the latter?[21:37:53] <BugzBunny> Kjeldmis, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB14YWQCrX0&t=6920s[21:37:55] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/BV3TsJ] [Live Stream] Let's Play Far Cry 3 Episode 1 (Commentary) 1080p 60FPS - YouTube[21:37:58] <NanoSector> mallowmow: yep[21:38:02] <BugzBunny> Kjeldmis, Btw, hows your new job doing?[21:38:08] <NanoSector> mallowmow: remove any packages mentioning infinality when it prompts you[21:39:01] <mallowmow> Damn, it's failing to retrieve files, do I need to connect to WiFi, via the terminal?[21:39:02] *** genyok <genyok!~genius@37-145-122-84.broadband.corbina.ru> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[21:39:12] <mallowmow> Sorry about this NanoSector[21:39:32] *** Kjeldmis <Kjeldmis!~ckk@62.66.164.82> has quit IRC (Quit: Kjeldmis)[21:39:39] <NanoSector> mallowmow: try stopping NetworkManager if it's running (sudo systemctl stop NetworkManager) and then connect with 'sudo wifi-menu'[21:39:41] <BugzBunny> >.>[21:40:00] <NanoSector> mallowmow: although plugging in a cable if you can is easier[21:40:19] *** tarok <tarok!~tarok@mon75-4-82-224-194-165.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[21:40:39] *** manjaroCinnamon1 <manjaroCinnamon1!~Manjarous@host-2-97-21-248.as13285.net> has joined #manjaro[21:40:52] <mallowmow> Is wifi-menu correct? It cannot find that command[21:41:05] <NanoSector> hmm it's in netctl[21:41:34] <NanoSector> well, you can start NetworkManager back up :P and then connect with it[21:41:34] <mallowmow> Would connecting an eternity cable be easier?[21:41:37] <NanoSector> yeah[21:41:42] <mallowmow> Ethernet[21:41:54] <mallowmow> I'll do just that[21:42:11] <NanoSector> start NetworkManager back up (sudo systemctl start NetworkManager) and plug in your cable, should come up right away[21:42:38] *** czam <czam!bc04a887@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.188.4.168.135> has joined #manjaro[21:43:22] <mallowmow> Awesome, just install the packages![21:43:26] <NanoSector> yay :)[21:44:04] <mallowmow> Thanks so much, shall I try to reboot now or shall I try Updating?[21:44:05] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1E4D4EF70606A9F8F318.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[21:44:15] <NanoSector> try updating first, see if that succeeds[21:45:06] *** czam <czam!bc04a887@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.188.4.168.135> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[21:45:11] <mallowmow> Can you remind me of the update, NanoSector?[21:45:19] <mallowmow> Command*[21:45:25] <NanoSector> sudo pacman -Syu[21:45:46] <mallowmow> Awesome[21:45:52] <NanoSector> (where Sync means 'interact with a remote repository')[21:46:28] <NanoSector> in contrast, pacman -Qs which you just executed means -Q for Query (e.g. 'interact with locally installed packages') and -s for Search[21:47:05] <mallowmow> So seems up to date but two warnings : lib32-gperftools is newer than multilib and lib32-rtmpdump is also newer than multilib[21:47:11] <mallowmow> Is that significant?[21:47:25] <NanoSector> hm, shouldn't matter much[21:47:37] <NanoSector> try rebooting and see if your desktop comes back up[21:47:39] <mallowmow> Okay, I'll try to reboot,[21:49:52] *** drrgrr <drrgrr!~j@94.221.77.188.dynamic.jazztel.es> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[21:50:22] <mallowmow> NanoSector, you are a lifesaver, I cannot thank you enough, you've no idea![21:50:30] <NanoSector> mallowmow: I take it it works :P[21:50:52] <mallowmow> It does, perfectly! I will be forever indebted to you![21:50:59] <NanoSector> haha, you're welcome :)[21:51:10] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[21:51:18] <mallowmow> Even though I backed up recently, I have a more recent edit to my PhD thesis on here[21:51:28] <mallowmow> You'll be in my acknowledgements[21:51:29] <NanoSector> ouch, that'd be quite painful indeed[21:51:49] <mallowmow> But again, thank you so much[21:51:58] <NanoSector> not a problem :)[21:52:28] <mallowmow> Have a great rest of your day! :) I'll be back later[21:52:34] <NanoSector> you too![21:52:47] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~androirc@unaffiliated/mallowmow> has quit IRC (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ))[21:54:07] <NanoSector> somehow that reminded me to put the sidepanel of my PC case back on[21:56:33] *** hai_bar <hai_bar!~hai_bar@p2003005DAF6E1EC1010E920FA6A4C279.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #manjaro[21:59:51] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@unaffiliated/mallowmow> has joined #manjaro[22:00:05] <mallowmow> Hello again, NanoSector :)[22:01:20] *** robotroll <robotroll!~robotroll@unaffiliated/robotroll> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:03:38] *** tmsbrdrs_ <tmsbrdrs_!~tmsbrdrs@24-241-31-30.static.hlrg.nc.charter.com> has joined #manjaro[22:04:58] *** Fuzzykinz <Fuzzykinz!4b8b4da8@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.75.139.77.168> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - 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ArchWiki[22:28:48] <NanoSector> that's a nice table to find out what a command does[22:29:01] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:e70e:8452:864:ebd> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds)[22:29:10] <NanoSector> of course there's https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman for a more descriptive explanation of each operation[22:29:11] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/lV9XoQ] pacman - ArchWiki[22:29:48] *** badbodh <badbodh!~badbodh@unaffiliated/badbodh> has joined #manjaro[22:30:38] *** giricz81 <giricz81!~giricz81@ip4-83-240-38-90.cust.nbox.cz> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:31:01] *** israuor <israuor!~quassel@163.172.89.250> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:32:14] *** Esclapion <Esclapion!~pat@bie91-1-82-227-35-96.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #manjaro[22:32:14] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v Esclapion[22:32:32] *** Esclapion <Esclapion!~pat@bie91-1-82-227-35-96.fbx.proxad.net> has left #manjaro ("Leaving")[22:32:47] *** israuor <israuor!~quassel@163.172.89.250> has joined #manjaro[22:33:36] <mallowmow> ah, thanks NanoSector, that's really useful![22:33:51] *** akirabit <akirabit!~bit@39.red-95-125-10.dynamicip.rima-tde.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Saliendo)[22:33:55] <NanoSector> :D[22:33:56] *** freecores <freecores!~freecores@ip30-67-214-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl> has quit IRC (Quit: Offline)[22:34:27] *** notis__ <notis__!~notis@195.74.249.209.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has joined #manjaro[22:36:57] *** notis <notis!~notis@178.128.25.102.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[22:37:56] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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I'm off to do something more interesting instead...)[22:41:08] *** Zonos_Net <Zonos_Net!5697a661@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.151.166.97> has joined #manjaro[22:41:20] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[22:41:26] *** NolanSyKinsley <NolanSyKinsley!~NolanSyKi@2606:6000:5112:df00:77f3:1947:810a:5711> has joined #manjaro[22:41:26] *** manjaro-kde5__ <manjaro-kde5__!~manjaro-k@dsl-197-245-22-232.voxdsl.co.za> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[22:41:42] *** underd0g_ <underd0g_!~underd0g@c-69-242-125-194.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has joined #manjaro[22:42:55] <Zonos_Net> I updated last night. And now on my second monitor my cursor disappears. Anyone got any ideas?[22:43:05] <NanoSector> how do you mean?[22:43:08] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #manjaro[22:43:30] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host197-101-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[22:43:58] <Zonos_Net> so updated system, using pacman. Now my cursor disappears on my second monitor every time i go down half way[22:44:43] <Zonos_Net> Google-search was saying that it updated some wrong fonts etc, but no real solution tbh. Was thinking anyone experienced similar things?[22:46:56] *** KaanOzturk <KaanOzturk!~Kaan@176.232.13.127> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[22:46:58] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:47:59] <Zonos_Net> Anyone any advice?[22:48:30] <NanoSector> hmm[22:48:33] <mallowmow> Zonos_Net: for what it's worth, package conflicts with font packages stopped my laptop from booting until they were rectified[22:48:36] <NanoSector> never heard that issue before[22:49:03] <NanoSector> cursors are mostly hardware accelerated iirc, so what GPU do you have with what driver?[22:50:05] <Zonos_Net> AMD Radeon GPU, cannot remember the exact model.[22:50:17] <Zonos_Net> So strange, how it was working a little while ago[22:50:25] <NanoSector> did you update your kernel in the meantime?[22:50:55] <NanoSector> what does 'uname -r' return?[22:51:00] *** ashledombos <ashledombos!~manjaro-k@mandriva/forum/ashledombos> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[22:51:08] *** chomwitt3 <chomwitt3!~chomwitt@ppp-94-69-222-21.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[22:51:37] <Zonos_Net> 4.4.41-1-MANJARO[22:51:48] <Zonos_Net> I'm sure that got updated too[22:51:51] <NanoSector> hmm, can you update to kernel 4.9 with manjaro's settings manager?[22:52:07] *** GraphicsIssues <GraphicsIssues!64045c7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.100.4.92.126> has joined #manjaro[22:52:47] <Zonos_Net> 4.9 Real Time or 4.9 2-1?[22:52:49] <NanoSector> newer kernels include bug fixes for GPU drivers, could be 4.9 includes a fix for your issue[22:52:55] <NanoSector> 4.9.2-1[22:53:01] <NanoSector> Real Time is for low latency audio[22:53:15] <Zonos_Net> Ahh I see, I'll give it a shot[22:53:27] <NanoSector> (and other low latency stuff)[22:53:47] *** chomwitt4 <chomwitt4!~chomwitt@ppp-94-67-203-112.home.otenet.gr> has joined #manjaro[22:54:11] <GraphicsIssues> when i installed manjaro i was not using the proprietary driver. i installed the proprietary driver to see if it worked any better and i have been having strange graphics issues since. i uninstalled the proprietary driver and installed the open source one again and manjaro would not boot up. i had to chroot and mhwd install the proprietary driver again to get the system working.[22:54:35] <NanoSector> GraphicsIssues: I assume you're talking about the NVIDIA driver?[22:54:39] <GraphicsIssues> ati[22:54:44] <NanoSector> Catalyst?[22:54:46] <GraphicsIssues> yes[22:54:51] <NanoSector> yeah, that's deprecated[22:55:16] <GraphicsIssues> how do i get back to a state where i can use the open source driver? the system did not function when i went back[22:55:32] <NanoSector> can you chroot and uninstall the proprietary driver with mhwd again? after doing that, check if there are any configuration files in /etc/X11 (also in the xorg.conf.d folder therein) and remove them; Xorg will autodetect drivers[22:56:00] <GraphicsIssues> i will try that. thank you[22:57:04] *** GraphicsIssues <GraphicsIssues!64045c7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.100.4.92.126> has quit IRC (Quit: Page closed)[22:57:08] <Zonos_Net> Righty, It says it has installed[22:57:16] *** iranen <iranen!~ira@n8eiylxw07n5um41y-2.v6.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #manjaro[22:57:20] *** chomwitt3 <chomwitt3!~chomwitt@ppp-94-69-222-21.home.otenet.gr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[22:57:24] <NanoSector> aight, try booting into it :)[22:57:56] <Zonos_Net> Sounds good, I'll hop back on to let you know :) I appreciate your time[22:58:03] *** Zonos_Net <Zonos_Net!5697a661@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.151.166.97> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[22:58:04] <NanoSector> good luck :)[22:58:05] <NanoSector> too slow[22:58:20] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host197-101-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[22:58:54] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host197-101-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #manjaro[22:59:05] *** Joshua^Dunamis <Joshua^Dunamis!~manjaro-k@host197-101-dynamic.32-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[22:59:11] <mallowmow> bit of a random question but does manjaro have any calender programs/widgets that has google cal integration?[22:59:18] <mallowmow> calendar*[22:59:21] <NanoSector> hmm, not sure[22:59:26] <NanoSector> what desktop environment do you use? KDE?[23:00:02] *** KaanOzturk <KaanOzturk!~KaanOztur@176.232.13.127> has joined #manjaro[23:00:20] <mallowmow> yes[23:01:01] <NanoSector> Hmm, I think KOrganizer can use the KDE Online Accounts system[23:01:16] <NanoSector> System Settings -> Online Accounts -> Add -> Google[23:01:37] *** Zonos_Net <Zonos_Net!5697a661@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.151.166.97> has joined #manjaro[23:01:50] <Zonos_Net> I'm back[23:01:55] <NanoSector> wb Zonos_Net[23:02:05] *** underd0g_ <underd0g_!~underd0g@c-69-242-125-194.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal)[23:02:13] <NanoSector> did it help[23:02:15] <NanoSector> ?[23:02:27] <Zonos_Net> unfortunately it didn't, problem is still there[23:02:35] <NanoSector> hmm :([23:02:47] *** sunn <sunn!~oliver@2a00:23c5:3900:f000:af78:87d2:a4b9:f2b9> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:02:49] <KaanOzturk> hello ıve been tryıng to ınstall manjaro onto a usb drıve (as a full ınstall not a lıve mode) however the installer wont install the bootloader onto the drive even when i choose it during installation it keeps installing it onto the copouter itself does anyone know a what might be causing this[23:02:49] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: you can try asking in #radeon, maybe they have an idea[23:03:38] <NanoSector> KaanOzturk: you can follow this guide: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/Restore_the_GRUB_Bootloader[23:03:39] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/6lIg49] Restore the GRUB Bootloader - Manjaro Linux[23:03:50] *** yabbes <yabbes!~yabbes@dslb-088-073-156-139.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:03:55] <NanoSector> KaanOzturk: just make s ure to substitute your hard disk for the usb drive[23:04:30] <Zonos_Net> Hmm good idea Nano[23:04:55] <KaanOzturk> thanks ill give these a try[23:05:20] *** nicholasf <nicholasf!~nicholasf@203-217-94-207.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #manjaro[23:06:05] *** Mr_Pan <Mr_Pan!~Mr_Pan@unaffiliated/mr-pan/x-4457432> has joined #manjaro[23:06:07] <Zonos_Net> Is it a good idea to go back and use the version of the kernels i was using before the update?[23:06:34] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: you could downgrade, yeah[23:06:36] *** V1G_LD-1Nkcc_ <V1G_LD-1Nkcc_!~V1G_LD-1N@ip68-3-220-102.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)[23:06:41] *** V1G_LD-1Nkcc <V1G_LD-1Nkcc!~V1G_LD-1N@ip68-3-220-102.ph.ph.cox.net> has joined #manjaro[23:06:43] *** mallowmow <mallowmow!~mallowmow@unaffiliated/mallowmow> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:06:50] *** KaanOzturk <KaanOzturk!~KaanOztur@176.232.13.127> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:06:53] <BugzBunny> yo yo yo[23:07:06] <BugzBunny> WTF is happening[23:07:53] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: in a nutshell, find the package in /var/cache/pacman/pkg (linux44-blablabla.tar.xz) and install it with pacman -U[23:07:54] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, ?[23:08:03] *** ggr <ggr!~ggr@m213-102-65-71.cust.tele2.ee> has quit IRC (Quit: byezzz)[23:08:04] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: support is happening :P[23:08:15] <BugzBunny> Whaaaaa[23:08:17] <BugzBunny> no way[23:08:30] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:08:37] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: Zonos_Net is having an issue where his cursor disappears when he moves it halfway down the screen[23:08:43] <BugzBunny> BTW, KaanOZturk is asking for help in #manajaro-talk[23:09:10] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, hmmm... Maybe if I think I might come up with something[23:09:17] *** Nytram <Nytram!~Nytram@2a02:c7f:3a1d:800:ce59:831f:5df5:2c2c> has joined #manjaro[23:09:18] *** CupOfCoffee <CupOfCoffee!~CupOfCoff@unaffiliated/cupofcoffee> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 258 seconds)[23:09:28] <BugzBunny> But uhhh.. I never experience that before.. I think I saw something about Radeon?[23:09:36] <BugzBunny> Let me look back[23:10:05] *** peetaur <peetaur!~peter@p57AAAF06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:10:08] *** Phobos <Phobos!~manjaro-k@105.235.137.52> has joined #manjaro[23:10:14] <NanoSector> yeah, i recommended him to ask in #radeon[23:10:22] <BugzBunny> About what?[23:10:26] <NanoSector> that issue[23:10:28] *** atlimit8 <atlimit8!~quassel@206.126.212.162> has joined #manjaro[23:10:35] <BugzBunny> What issue, I look and I don't see[23:10:47] *** Phobos is now known as Guest46451[23:10:53] <NanoSector> [23:08] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: Zonos_Net is having an issue where his cursor disappears when he moves it halfway down the screen[23:11:07] <BugzBunny> Oh, I know that problem[23:11:18] <BugzBunny> Yes, I wanted to read his original question xD[23:11:31] <BugzBunny> To be precise, need more information!!![23:11:38] *** darksim <darksim!~quassel@78-70-247-31-no186.tbcn.telia.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection)[23:11:39] <NanoSector> [22:43] <Zonos_Net> so updated system, using pacman. Now my cursor disappears on my second monitor every time i go down half way[23:11:56] <BugzBunny> So multiple Monitor setup?[23:11:57] <NanoSector> he's using kernel 4.4.41 but probably has an older version in his /var/cache/pacman/pkg[23:11:58] <Zonos_Net> Pretty much ^ :P[23:11:59] *** Guest46451 <Guest46451!~manjaro-k@105.235.137.52> has quit IRC (Client Quit)[23:12:24] <BugzBunny> What Radeon the Kernel driver?[23:12:31] <NanoSector> yes[23:12:41] <BugzBunny> That get's compiled with the Kernel[23:12:43] <NanoSector> yes[23:12:44] *** arizona_shawn <arizona_shawn!~manjaro-k@wsip-98-190-138-86.ph.ph.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)[23:12:48] <BugzBunny> Maybe Xorg end[23:12:56] <NanoSector> but then why would updating the kernel influence it[23:13:08] <BugzBunny> You know how things go[23:13:09] *** yitzhakbg <yitzhakbg!~textual@5.28.146.60> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac Mini has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[23:13:15] <Zonos_Net> Am i looking for version 4.4.39-1, If im not mistaken that was my kernel version before i updated[23:13:18] <BugzBunny> Kernel intrude stuff that breaks something else[23:13:23] <BugzBunny> Happens all the time[23:13:28] <NanoSector> unless xorg 1.19 got pushed to manjaro, doubt it though[23:13:34] <BugzBunny> Ahh[23:13:35] <BugzBunny> Yes[23:13:50] <Nytram> Getting really tired of these conflict errors during upgrade. I thought it was because I was runnoing an old version of manjaro, then I thought perhaps it was because I hadn't upgraded for along time. So I've re-installed manjaro 16.10 downloaded just 20 minutes ago and still I get conflict errors and the upgrade fails.[23:13:57] <BugzBunny> Well, if Radeon DRM Kernel detect your hardware[23:14:02] <BugzBunny> You 50% there[23:14:07] *** Torre <Torre!57144423@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.20.68.35> has joined #manjaro[23:14:08] <NanoSector> Nytram: what conflicts?[23:14:18] *** aajjbb <aajjbb!~aajjbb@179.154.124.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)[23:14:20] *** rmonico <rmonico!~rmonico@200.49.48.139> has joined #manjaro[23:14:20] <BugzBunny> Now, getting 3D compositing all that extra stuff[23:14:29] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: one thing you could check is if you have xf86-video-radeon installed; if you do, try deinstalling it, if you don't, try installing it[23:14:31] <BugzBunny> You need to make sure that Xorg loads with the right drivers[23:14:43] <BugzBunny> and Detects Radeon KMS[23:14:44] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: 3d acceleration isn't Xorg's job (thankfully), that's mesa[23:14:48] *** Torre <Torre!57144423@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.87.20.68.35> has left #manjaro[23:14:48] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has quit IRC (Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…)[23:14:57] <Nytram> error: unresolvable package conflicts detected[23:14:57] <Nytram> error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies)[23:14:57] <Nytram> :: xorg-server and xf86-input-acecad are in conflict (X-ABI-XINPUT_VERSION>=23)[23:15:04] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: Xorg has a generic modesetting driver[23:15:08] *** mtn <mtn!~mtn@72.168.161.43> has joined #manjaro[23:15:13] <NanoSector> Nytram: xorg 1.19 is apparenly pushed, remove xf86-input-acecad[23:15:21] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, O? AFAIK, mesa works Xorg to write to the screen[23:15:22] <NanoSector> it's not compatible naymore[23:15:28] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: no[23:15:31] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: well[23:15:37] <Nytram> remove it without replacing or substituting?[23:15:37] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: mesa allows apps to create an opengl context[23:15:46] <BugzBunny> I am listening?[23:15:50] <NanoSector> Nytram: just remove it; xf86-input-libinput should take over[23:16:00] <Zonos_Net> just gonna reboot brb[23:16:01] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@91-114-169-243.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #manjaro[23:16:05] <Nytram> OKie dokie. Thanks[23:16:05] <BugzBunny> AFAIK, you can't run glxinfo without Xorg running[23:16:09] *** Zonos_Net <Zonos_Net!5697a661@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.151.166.97> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client)[23:16:14] <BugzBunny> AFAIK, glxinfo QUERY Xorg[23:16:22] <NanoSector> glxinfo queries mesa[23:16:33] <BugzBunny> Which Queries Xorg[23:16:39] <NanoSector> Xorg is not involved[23:16:46] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, Kill Xorg[23:16:54] <NanoSector> yes[23:16:57] <BugzBunny> and run glxinfo[23:17:04] <BugzBunny> then report back what is the result[23:17:28] <NanoSector> it needs a display to run an opengl context on to test this[23:17:48] <NanoSector> but it works on wayland too[23:18:27] <BugzBunny> Yes[23:18:38] <BugzBunny> Not counter argument here :)[23:18:41] <NanoSector> DDXes are just ways to accelerate 2D; the generic modesetting DDX included in Xorg uses GLAMOR acceleration which uses OpenGL which uses Mesa[23:18:49] <BugzBunny> I have done a million times[23:19:03] *** infinital <infinital!uid144856@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pexugwcoswquylwc> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[23:19:18] <BugzBunny> Yes, read all that garbage when I was trying to figure out what tech is avialble[23:19:46] <NanoSector> then you'd also know Mesa doesn't hava a hard requirement on Xorg; it just has an Xorg backend[23:19:48] *** Diomedes <Diomedes!~Diomedes@xonotic/supporter/Diomedes> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)[23:19:51] <BugzBunny> Different tech to replace this that make this bloated that Wayland to sole[23:19:52] <Nytram> NanoSector, I'm now getting new conflicts preventing the upgrade.[23:19:57] <NanoSector> Nytram: list them please[23:20:22] <Nytram> error: unresolvable package conflicts detected[23:20:22] <Nytram> error: failed to prepare transaction (conflicting dependencies)[23:20:22] <Nytram> :: xorg-server and xf86-input-joystick are in conflict (X-ABI-XINPUT_VERSION>=23)[23:20:24] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, No, I never seen as dependency, but how you going to 3D work? In the framebuffer?[23:20:40] *** totalkrill_ <totalkrill_!~totalkril@h-28-78.a159.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)[23:20:48] <NanoSector> Nytram: can you pastebin 'pacman -Qs xf86' ?[23:21:02] <BugzBunny> Not say it can't be done, but please tell me how can you do it without Xorg?[23:21:04] *** Zonos_Net <Zonos_Net!5697a661@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.86.151.166.97> has joined #manjaro[23:21:06] <Zonos_Net> I'm back :P[23:21:07] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: that's the Xorg/Wayland backend, to display stuff..[23:21:17] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: wb[23:21:21] <BugzBunny> Of course!!![23:21:24] <Zonos_Net> Finally worked after downgrading back to 39[23:21:29] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: nice[23:21:32] <Zonos_Net> You guys are the best¬[23:21:33] <BugzBunny> Wayland, is interesting tech[23:21:40] <BugzBunny> Zonos_Net, Thank NanoSector[23:21:48] <BugzBunny> he's the guy who help you the most[23:21:49] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: I'm not seeing your point except you're trying to argue with me :P[23:21:49] <Nytram> Ugh! Not now NanoSector, I have to go to bed. I thought I would have fixed this 3 hours ago. Thanks for your help tonight though.[23:21:52] <BugzBunny> Thank him![23:22:10] <Zonos_Net> Thank You NanoSector![23:22:16] <NanoSector> Nytram: long story short: remove all conflicting xf86-input-* drivers and install xf86-input-libinput[23:22:30] <Zonos_Net> Out of curiosity guys[23:22:34] <Zonos_Net> what does this mean:[23:22:35] <Zonos_Net> No kernel 3.10.104-1-MANJARO modules. You must install them to use DKMS![23:22:50] <NanoSector> you're missing kernel headers for that version[23:22:52] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, My point is, you arguing that Mesa doesn't need X0rg to draw 3D objects on the screen.. And I replay, please kill Xorg and run do 3D operations[23:22:53] *** mnemonic <mnemonic!~semeion@unaffiliated/semeion> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)[23:23:15] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: I'm arguing that Mesa doesn't *need* Xorg, I'm not saying it can't use it for rendering[23:23:42] <BugzBunny> I am telling like I said few minutes ago, Xorg is not dependency[23:23:53] <BugzBunny> >.>[23:24:04] <NanoSector> yes, that was my point... :P[23:24:07] <Zonos_Net> NanoSector, I gathered however installing them i found has been is impossible[23:24:10] <NanoSector> why are we arguing[23:24:23] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: do you have any reason for keeping kernel 3.10?[23:24:25] <BugzBunny> I am the argumentative one here[23:24:32] <BugzBunny> :-p[23:24:42] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: and i'm the person who hates having arguments[23:24:52] <NanoSector> :x[23:24:59] <BugzBunny> Well, you know, the United States[23:25:12] <BugzBunny> Anyway[23:25:13] <Zonos_Net> NanoSector Not really[23:25:15] <BugzBunny> >.>[23:25:16] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: because if not, you might as well remove those old kernels[23:25:27] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: and stick to 4.4.49[23:25:28] <NanoSector> *39[23:26:18] <Zonos_Net> I was trying to install Razer Keyboard driver, and thats what it said to me. But I guess i prolly should remove them NanoSector[23:26:46] <NanoSector> yeah. you don't have headers installed so it can't compile the module for 3.10[23:27:01] <NanoSector> but if you don't use 3.10 you might as well remove it, it's obsolete[23:27:49] <Zonos_Net> So how would i install headers for the module i currently am running?[23:28:08] <NanoSector> for the kernel you mean?[23:28:15] <Zonos_Net> Yeah :S haha[23:28:35] <Zonos_Net> Not super experienced at linux, so do pardon me[23:28:37] *** gothicsouth <gothicsouth!~gothicsou@cpe-76-177-64-121.natcky.res.rr.com> has joined #manjaro[23:28:42] <BugzBunny> 3.10 is not obselete[23:28:44] <NanoSector> They're mostly contained in a package named linuxXX-headers, where XX is the kernel version without dot (so 4.4 would be 44, 4.9 would be 49, 4.10 would be 410)[23:28:58] <NanoSector> installing them should be enough[23:29:11] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: it's old and there's no reason to use it nowadays[23:29:18] <BugzBunny> Not to be argumentative, but 3.X series still have LTS[23:29:32] <Zonos_Net> You guys know how to remove them from Terminal?[23:29:34] <BugzBunny> It's not obsolete[23:29:40] *** manjaro-kde5- <manjaro-kde5-!~manjaro-k@CPEac9e17459980-CM1cabc0a37280.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:29:55] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: I'd say use mhwd-kernel, but i don't know how that works :x[23:30:00] * NanoSector doesn't use manjaro[23:30:13] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: LTS doesn't make sense with an OS like manjaro[23:30:35] <Nytram> NanoSector, I thought I'd hang about and ry what you said. Looks like the upgrade is going through now. Thanks. ;)[23:30:41] <BugzBunny> Sure, but it's available and I can attest that it's probably more stable than 4.4[23:30:55] <BugzBunny> The issue becomes a problem with new hardware[23:31:04] <iranen> I always use latest and never any problems[23:31:05] <BugzBunny> My new hardware can't run 3.x[23:31:14] <NanoSector> Nytram: nice :)[23:31:20] <BugzBunny> I need at least 4.8 with patches[23:31:53] <BugzBunny> I have to wait for 4.11 for HDMI Audio for my Vid Card[23:31:55] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: it probably is more stable, but with a relatively unstable userspace that's not useful[23:32:21] <Zonos_Net> https://thepasteb.in/p/58hg5ywW7Mzhv[23:32:22] <Zonos_Net> Hmmm[23:32:23] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/NvnQnx] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs![23:32:41] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, The protections in the Kernel, it be weird for a userspace program to crash the kernel[23:32:51] <BugzBunny> It's Xorg that always crashes[23:32:52] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: can you pastebin 'pacman -Qs linux'?[23:33:01] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: you'd be surprised, mesa can hang the kernel just fine[23:33:14] <BugzBunny> Never happened to me[23:33:36] <BugzBunny> With the SysRQ key, reboot safely[23:33:49] <Zonos_Net> NanoSector https://thepasteb.in/p/KOh8zQZ4YOmIJ[23:33:49] <Nytram> Lol then it never happened to anyone and will never happen to you in future. You sound like my wife.[23:33:50] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/J1fBem] ThePasteBin - For all your pasting needs![23:34:12] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: there's a 9-year-old bug in Mesa that recently got fixed that'd hang your entire system if you tried running certain games in Wine on Radeon GPUs[23:34:29] <BugzBunny> Not to say it's not impossible[23:34:49] <BugzBunny> And 3.x afaik get bugs back ported[23:34:55] <BugzBunny> It can happen[23:34:59] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: oh, you don't have kernel 3.10 installed, only its headers :P uninstall linux310-headers[23:35:16] <BugzBunny> But in my Experience.. I never got Linux Kernel hang the system[23:35:21] <BugzBunny> Xorg![23:35:25] <BugzBunny> >.>[23:35:40] <NanoSector> your experience doesn't represent everyone's experience though[23:35:41] <BugzBunny> Windows doesn't either.. just Blue Screen reboot[23:35:48] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, You kidding me?[23:35:53] <BugzBunny> LOL >.>[23:35:58] <NanoSector> i can hang my kernel by simply suspending and resuming[23:36:12] <BugzBunny> Is it hanged or is it Xorg?[23:36:15] <NanoSector> hanged[23:36:25] <NanoSector> hung[23:36:38] <Nytram> When I run Mint 18.1 and reboot my system hangs.[23:36:40] <Zonos_Net> NanoSector. I'll give it a shot now :P[23:36:49] <BugzBunny> AFAIK, in circumstances like those, you should be to attach Serial[23:36:59] <NanoSector> unless your laptop doesn't have a serial port[23:37:00] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, Go on Kernel Mailing list[23:37:37] <Zonos_Net> NanoSector : No kernel 4.4.39-1-MANJARO headers. You must install them to use DKMS![23:37:37] <NanoSector> i've already diagnosed and pinpointed the issue somewhere between i915 and nouveau, but can't debug it because no serial port[23:37:55] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: sudo pacman -S linux44-headers[23:37:58] <Zonos_Net> NanoSector It never stops XD[23:39:31] <Zonos_Net> NanoSector, Strange it says the same message kinda[23:39:36] <NanoSector> hm?[23:39:46] <Zonos_Net> No kernel 4.4.41-1-MANJARO modules. You must install them to use DKMS![23:39:51] <NanoSector> oh, right[23:39:55] <NanoSector> version mismatch[23:40:07] <NanoSector> you have 4.4.39 installed but the headers are now 4.4.41 because it pulled them from the repos[23:40:22] *** ZaPPeRoo <ZaPPeRoo!~ZaP@66-247-200-203.setardsl.aw> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving)[23:40:33] <Zonos_Net> Do I need upgrade to 4.4.41[23:41:11] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: but that causes your cursor issue[23:41:14] <NanoSector> https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Using_Downgrade[23:41:16] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bQBRZT] Using Downgrade - Manjaro Linux[23:41:27] <NanoSector> try that first, see if any repo has linux44-headers version 4.4.39 available[23:41:55] <Zonos_Net> Right yeah, sounds good[23:43:38] *** Oachkatzl <Oachkatzl!~Oachkatzl@91-114-169-243.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)[23:43:40] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, But that is rare, to say it's common... bit misleading[23:44:05] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: what now?[23:44:06] <BugzBunny> Windows 10 Kernel and Linux Kernel is appear as stable[23:44:26] <Zonos_Net> NanoSector, only 4.4.41-1 available[23:44:39] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: hmm, looks like you're out of luck then, sorry[23:45:18] <Zonos_Net> Hypothetically speaking, if i upgraded and the cursor problem fixed. What would I do? Just a matter of installing headerS?[23:45:32] <NanoSector> yeah[23:45:35] *** m4sk1n <m4sk1n!uid206209@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oxrueeitzjwzckps> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)[23:45:52] <Zonos_Net> Ahhhh makes sense, I guess that't not too bad[23:46:25] <Zonos_Net> Guess, just have to wait for a solution for the font thing :P[23:46:29] <Zonos_Net> Cursor*[23:46:56] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: well you can at least tell the people in #radeon that the issue is somewhere between 4.4.39 and 4.4.41, should you wish to debug it further[23:47:29] <Zonos_Net> Oh, would the bug not lie within the people who created the[23:47:30] <BugzBunny> The cursor problem could be hardware[23:47:33] <Zonos_Net> update[23:47:36] <BugzBunny> Is this USB?[23:47:39] <Zonos_Net> Yeah[23:47:56] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: if you're implying the mouse, that shouldn't cause the cursor to randomly disappear[23:47:57] <BugzBunny> Have you tried with a different mouse[23:48:15] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, Just like you said, you would be surprised[23:48:18] <NanoSector> a mouse only tells the input driver "look, i travelled this much, move the cursor"[23:48:20] <BugzBunny> You would be surprised[23:48:56] <Zonos_Net> I guess, but you gotta think that it works perfectly fine on the first screen[23:49:04] <BugzBunny> My best guess, it can be any problem, from Window Manager, to Input driver, to hardware problem[23:49:28] <BugzBunny> But, the issue here to isolate the problem[23:49:43] <BugzBunny> Number 1 way to deduce the cause of the problem[23:50:06] <NanoSector> if the only factor we're changing is the kernel version (and therefore the radeon kernel driver), and this fixes and breaks this, why do you still think it's Xorg[23:50:09] <BugzBunny> Another, look at the logs[23:50:09] <NanoSector> or libinput[23:50:11] <NanoSector> or ...[23:50:28] <BugzBunny> No one say you shouldn't do it[23:50:38] <BugzBunny> If I imply you should, then I redact it[23:51:07] <Zonos_Net> When you guys say look at the logs, what exactly do you look for?[23:51:17] <Zonos_Net> Always wondered[23:51:17] <NanoSector> i've no idea what he's aiming at, Zonos_Net[23:51:31] <NanoSector> Xorg logs won't tell you 'cursor disappeared. mayday.'[23:51:41] <BugzBunny> However, when you grading kernels, you still to need to see the change logs[23:51:44] <Zonos_Net> haha right yeah[23:52:19] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, what?[23:52:44] <Zonos_Net> But probably the main question is, can i live without updating my kernel to 4.4.41[23:52:49] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, The fucking suggestion was not about if Xorg log will fucking contain data to fucking problem[23:52:50] <Zonos_Net> or eventually will i need to?[23:53:05] <BugzBunny> NanoSector, Like any support channel suggest, look at the fucking logs fucking clues[23:53:17] <BugzBunny> What the fuck do you think I was fucking getting at[23:53:21] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: yes, fucking fuckity fuck the issue[23:53:30] <Zonos_Net> lmao[23:53:44] <BugzBunny> Fuck me[23:53:51] <BugzBunny> Now we fucking enemies[23:53:58] <NanoSector> no thanks, not gay[23:54:00] <NanoSector> always were :P[23:54:23] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: aaaaaaanyway, you can live with 4.4.39[23:54:52] <Zonos_Net> NanoSector, Thats good new i guess[23:54:57] <Zonos_Net> What OS do you guys use?[23:54:59] <Zonos_Net> Arch?[23:55:03] <NanoSector> Arch here, yes[23:55:33] <Zonos_Net> I tried it, installation didnt take too long. But then post-installation was just too tough[23:55:42] <NanoSector> takes a little while, yeah.[23:55:54] <Zonos_Net> very mucho little while[23:55:56] <NanoSector> so satisfying in the end when you get to be productive with it though[23:56:05] <Zonos_Net> Yeah definitely[23:56:19] <Zonos_Net> which was a shame cause i wanted too, stil do but not enough knowledge[23:56:28] <NanoSector> this reminds me, btw[23:56:31] <NanoSector> !apkg thefuck[23:56:32] <Botergos> thefuck - Magnificent app which corrects your previous console command -- version 3.11-2 - https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/any/thefuck[23:57:16] *** qwebirc84772 <qwebirc84772!9ec436ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.158.196.54.202> has joined #manjaro[23:57:26] <qwebirc84772> hi[23:58:04] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: anyway, my recommendation to you; try and diagnose the issue with people in #radeon if you want to, avoid updating the linux44 package. If you want you can play with different kernel versions and see if one fixes your issue[23:58:38] <Zonos_Net> NanoSector, sounds like some sound advice :)[23:58:55] <NanoSector> Zonos_Net: *if* your GPU is recent enough (Radeon R9 2xx or newer) you can try the AMDGPU kernel driver and DDX (xf86-video-amdgpu; you can install it even if not using the driver)[23:59:03] *** AvianY <AvianY!~AvianY@89-212-126-132.dynamic.t-2.net> has joined #manjaro[23:59:45] *** Kranix <Kranix!~magnus@185.118.249.57> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!)