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[01:55:36] <manjaro-kde5> hello world
[01:57:18] <thid_> hello
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[01:57:31] *** manjaro-kde5 is now known as Tony___
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* superbia is listening to Antonin Dvorak - Symphonie No.09 in E-Moll Opus 95-Aus der neuen Welt-Allegro con fuoco ::: http://stream2137.init7.net:80 ::: 4:50:40/?:?? @ 128kbps
[02:01:13] <superbia> thid_home:
[02:01:15]
* superbia is listening to Antonin Dvorak - Symphonie No.09 in E-Moll Opus 95-Aus der neuen Welt-Allegro con fuoco ::: http://stream2137.init7.net:80 ::: 4:50:44/?:?? @ 128kbps
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[02:04:53] <thid_home> superbia, yo
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[02:05:44] <Tony___> Can someone help me install brcmfmac driver??
[02:06:07] <Tony___> Having issues with my wireless card
[02:06:10] <nicklas_> what is that?
[02:06:32] <thid_home> Tony___, why not broadcom-wl ?
[02:07:13] <superbia> thid_home: me coding, bbl
[02:07:32] <Tony___> The device ID matched when cross referencing a list of supported hardware
[02:07:34] <nicklas_> Tony___: is it a mac, name has mac in it
[02:07:48] <Tony___> So I figured that would work, is broadcom-wl better?
[02:07:56] <Tony___> No this is a pc
[02:08:07] <nicklas_> Tony___: there isnt any drivers in manjaro settings manager/drivers part?
[02:08:18] <nicklas_> it should show up there
[02:08:26] <thid_home> Tony___, brcmfmac should autoload on boot
[02:08:46] <nicklas_> atleast if you have installed the non-free manjaro
[02:09:05] <nicklas_> which is recommended if you want hardware that needs non-free drivers
[02:09:07] <thid_home> nicklas_, huh?
[02:09:08] <nicklas_> or want codecs
[02:09:16] <Tony___> non free?
[02:09:36] <nicklas_> when you boot from live iso, you can choose to boot free or non-free manjaro
[02:09:38] <thid_home> nuuuciano, dude brcmfmac are bcrm80211
[02:09:38] <Tony___> You mean the second option? Yeah that's what I installed today
[02:09:45] <nicklas_> with or without drivers and condecs
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[02:09:50] <thid_home> nicklas*
[02:10:13] <Tony___> Broadcom Limited Device [14e4:43c3] (rev 04)
[02:10:26] <thid_home> hmm
[02:10:37] <thid_home> Tony___, I would try broadcom-wl
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[02:10:55] <thid_home> I have to use it on my x131e thinkpad since nothing else works
[02:11:07] <veevax> Hello
[02:11:20] <nickles> hey does anyone use snes emulators here?
[02:11:30] <Tony___> I don't see anything anything in the hardware detection, just my graphics card
[02:11:40] <Tony___> Sorry
[02:11:55] <veevax> What is your preferred podcast client on Manjaro?
[02:12:49] <nickles> hello veevax
[02:13:04] <nickles> wish i could suggest, im new here, learning...
[02:13:28] <thid_home> Tony___, in terminal mhwd -l
[02:13:55] <thid_home> and give output on pastebin
[02:16:11]
<Botergos> [https://is.gd/F2zDZh] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Pastebin.com
[02:16:45] <thid_home> o_O
[02:16:52] <thid_home> ur wifi is on ?
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[02:18:44] <Tony___> I'm assuming it's not since it's not detected at all?
[02:18:57] <thid_home> yep
[02:19:05] <Tony___> When I click network manager there is no wireless but works in windows
[02:19:26] <Tony___> Can I use ndiswrapper or something to install windows drivers in manjaro?
[02:19:32] <thid_home> its not detected by system
[02:19:45] <Tony___> So no go at all?
[02:20:09] <thid_home> yep
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[02:20:34] <Tony___> Bummer...i'm tethering wifi from my cell phone atm lol
[02:20:50] <thid_home> damn that sucks
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[02:21:09] <Tony___> Well I have a usb adapter
[02:21:31] <Tony___> I was gonna get rid of when I picked up the pcie card I'll see if that will work
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[02:37:04] <Darth_Mare> hello room
[02:37:39] <Darth_Mare> was wondering if anyone could help me
[02:38:52] <thid_home> one does not simply show on irc and ask questions
[02:39:16] <thid_home> oh w8...
[02:40:03] <Darth_Mare> I would offer you a beer, but that could be a little difficult
[02:40:54] <thid_home> oh I only take payment in japanese-high-school-girl currency
[02:41:13] <Tony___> lol
[02:41:26] * optics pulls back the stage curtains... and the question is..
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[02:41:42] <Darth_Mare> My wife made me get rid of all mu contacts
[02:41:52] <thid_home> right, Darth_Mare ask ur question
[02:43:28] <Darth_Mare> I just installed Manjaro from the live iso and did an update, but I was able to use the hardware detection on the live version, but cant find it in the installed version,
[02:44:08] <thid_home> mhwd in terminal
[02:44:17] <Tony___> You can open the menu and search hardware detection, it'll pop up?
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[02:44:36] <manjaroCinnamon> ist
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[02:45:27] <Darth_Mare> no it dont come up when I search it
[02:46:00] <thid_home> mhwd
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[02:47:11] <Darth_Mare> so I lost the start menu option
[02:47:19] <Darth_Mare> and gui
[02:47:52] <thid_home> how so ?
[02:48:26] <Darth_Mare> it is not in the start menu under system or settings
[02:48:33] <Darth_Mare> I dont know why not
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[02:48:48] <thid_home> look for manjaro settings manager
[02:48:59] <thid_home> or run terminal and type mhwd
[02:49:44] <Darth_Mare> thanks I found it
[02:51:50] <thid_home> great off to sleep
[02:51:58] <thid_home> cya guys
[02:53:20] <Tony___> gnight thid
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[03:01:47] <ebe> is there a way to stop the goddamn pacman mirror randomizer script during boot of the live system?
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[03:03:48] <optics> do you mean before installing?
[03:03:51] <ebe> yes
[03:04:07] <ebe> this is a huge pita
[03:04:16] <optics> sudo pacman-mirrors -b stable -c YOURCOUNTRY
[03:04:28] <ebe> ...
[03:04:38] <ebe> before booting the damn live system
[03:04:48] <optics> do that in terminal before running the calamares
[03:04:59] <ebe> ...
[03:05:01] <ebe> forget it
[03:05:03] <ebe> adios
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[03:05:51] <optics> go far.
[03:07:04] <Tony___> what a dick -_-
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[03:48:14] <anthos> yo
[03:49:12] <anthos> Replacing Winblows 10 with Manjaro right now :D
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[03:49:25] <anthos> feelsgoodman
[03:49:37] <hedgie> like a giant weight has been lifted…
[03:49:58] <Tony___> ^
[03:50:19] <Darth_Mare> Manjaro so far feel good
[03:50:27] <anthos> Yeh. I switched to Antergos for a brief period, switched back to Windows because of Overwatch. Then I realized I could use KVM so here I am lol
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[03:50:51] <hedgie> okay, I do admit to a win partition on my laptop for games, but I'm usually on opensuse there. on manjaro on the desktop
[03:51:05] <Tony___> I just installed manjaro over linuxmint woo
[03:51:24] <anthos> Noice.
[03:52:20] <Darth_Mare> Win partition here also, but I also have 3 macs and another home built windows 10 gaming rig. I just like messing with different OS's
[03:53:26] <anthos> Tru. Haven't gotten my hands on an OSX machine yet, not sure I want to heh.
[03:53:35] <Tony___> Same lol everyone else is on a mac here. Dual booting linux/win10 on my gaming rig
[03:53:41] <hedgie> it's just a proprietary *nix
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[03:54:32] <Darth_Mare> I am trying to enable the deepin enviornment
[03:54:33] <anthos> I thought about dual booting, but I'm still using a slow HDD and I'm too impatient for boot times.
[03:55:12] <Tony___> Gotcha, yeah that'd drive me nuts too
[03:55:39] <Darth_Mare> go ssd
[03:55:54] <Tony___> anthos were you talking about Overwatch the game?
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[05:01:05] <LifeIsCode> Well 3 years of debating I finally done it, got a Linux tattoo
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[05:05:45] <hedgie> I think I'll stick (pun not intended) with laptop stickers
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[05:20:29] <Tony___> How can I stop octopi from updating while it's updating?
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[05:39:12] <hedgie> I would suggest not doing that
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[05:44:01] <Tony___> :/ it's been updating for hours
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<benfitzpatrick> hi guys, im still getting errors with building a custom manjaro ISO, i got everything building fine but this error pops up, idk why http://pastebin.com/akRbFy97
[05:45:33] <benfitzpatrick> it says unknown filesystem type, im like what the
[05:46:34] <benfitzpatrick> i never saw that error before
[05:49:06] <CountryfiedLinux> Hey Manjaro fails to boot from USB. Says security boot failed or something like that.
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[05:49:14] <benfitzpatrick> oh hey country
[05:49:21] <benfitzpatrick> its ben from facebook
[05:49:59] <benfitzpatrick> you may have to turn off secure boot in the BIOS
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[05:52:20] <benfitzpatrick> can anyone tell me why that error is coming up possibly?
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[05:57:43] <benfitzpatrick> hmmmm
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[05:59:29] <Almoullim> Hello
[05:59:33] <benfitzpatrick> hi
[05:59:39] <Almoullim> my internal speaker are not being detected
[05:59:47] <Almoullim> Headphnes works though
[05:59:49] <benfitzpatrick> im having problems too
[06:00:00] <benfitzpatrick> and gotten no help yet, so i know the feelin
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[06:01:07] <CountryfiedLinux> There's no way to disable secure boot without switching to Legacy, in which it says no OS available when I try to boot the live USB.
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[06:01:39] <Almoullim> benfitzpatrick: xD
[06:01:45] <CountryfiedLinux> Security Boot Failed when I try to boot from USB.
[06:02:14] <benfitzpatrick> Almoullim, yeah and i have no idea how to fix this, i've been trying to fix my respin buidling for almost 6 days, no luck
[06:02:37] <benfitzpatrick> google has failed, no one here has given me any answer, im stumped
[06:02:49] <benfitzpatrick> its failed on 2 machines too
[06:03:02] <Almoullim> Maybe (a tiny maybe) i could help, whats the problem
[06:03:12] <benfitzpatrick> here's the pastebin
[06:03:48] <CountryfiedLinux> How can I boot in UEFI if secure boot can't be turned off in UEFI?
[06:04:10] <CountryfiedLinux> This is a serious bug that makes it impossible for users to boot up the live ISO.
[06:04:20] <CountryfiedLinux> I mean it won't boot with secure boot on.
[06:04:23] <zero-ghost> wheres that guy that keeps saying UEFI is so great
[06:04:26] <zero-ghost> what a jackass
[06:04:32] <benfitzpatrick> well if you cant boot in legacy you have to remake it in none UEFI
[06:04:37] <benfitzpatrick> non*
[06:05:24] <CountryfiedLinux> Won't boot in Legacy, and in UEFI it says Legacy Boot Failed. There seems to be no way to boot Manjaro on this laptop. Live ISO that is.
[06:05:46] <benfitzpatrick> try remaking it with rufus as BIOS/UEF-csm
[06:05:49] <benfitzpatrick> see if it worked
[06:06:29] <CountryfiedLinux> remaking the live usb stick?
[06:06:41] <benfitzpatrick> yeah with UEFI-CSM/BIOS on rufus
[06:07:52] <benfitzpatrick> Almoullim, do you think you got a answer man?
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[06:08:13] <CountryfiedLinux> It looks like Rufus is for Windows.
[06:08:19] <benfitzpatrick> indeed
[06:08:27] <CountryfiedLinux> I'm using Xubuntu 16.10.
[06:08:34] <benfitzpatrick> then get etcher
[06:09:47] <benfitzpatrick> it works on mac win and linux
[06:11:47] <Almoullim> benfitzpatrick: nope, sorry dude, i tried google, didn't got me far.
[06:11:56] <benfitzpatrick> me either
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[06:12:32] <benfitzpatrick> and the old tool i used to use is gone
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[06:14:26] <CountryfiedLinux> etcher?
[06:14:32] <CountryfiedLinux> How would this fix the ISO?
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[06:14:36] <CountryfiedLinux> The ISO is the problem.
[06:14:41] <benfitzpatrick> well then redownload it
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[06:15:04] <CountryfiedLinux> It won't work on secure boot and won't work in UEFI. I have downloaded it more than once.
[06:15:04] <loner269> hi
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[06:15:21] <loner269> hi country
[06:15:30] <benfitzpatrick> hi loner
[06:15:33] <CountryfiedLinux> I meant it won't boot with secure boot on and won't boot in Legacy.
[06:15:38] <loner269> hi benfitzpatrick
[06:15:38] <benfitzpatrick> im having issues making a manjaro custom ISO
[06:16:07] <benfitzpatrick> and i checked google, no luck man
[06:16:18] <benfitzpatrick> and nobody here seems to know what to tell me
[06:16:31] <loner269> lol i know the feeling
[06:16:36] <benfitzpatrick> idk what to do man
[06:16:58] <benfitzpatrick> idk if its a permissions issue or what
[06:16:59] <loner269> i had to find an old old netrunner to install just so i can d/l new manjaro sad aint it?
[06:17:06] <benfitzpatrick> yes
[06:17:19] <benfitzpatrick> i've dealt with this error for 6 days almsot
[06:17:21] <benfitzpatrick> almost*
[06:17:31] <benfitzpatrick> thats how stuck i am
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[06:22:37] <benfitzpatrick> peetaur2, you there?
[06:22:53] <Almoullim> benfitzpatrick: Check with the ppl at #archlinux
[06:23:02] <benfitzpatrick> they dont care for manjaro
[06:23:15] <benfitzpatrick> and plus they would just give an RTFM
[06:23:27] <benfitzpatrick> so no sense in that
[06:23:44] <Almoullim> xD
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[06:25:39] <CountryfiedLinux> benfitzpatrick, RTFM :P JK haha
[06:25:45] <benfitzpatrick> lol
[06:25:56] <CountryfiedLinux> GTFO n00000000b!
[06:26:08] <CountryfiedLinux> I haven't ever made a custom manjaro iso.
[06:27:22] <benfitzpatrick> me either
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[06:30:41] <benfitzpatrick> i found a git version of manjaroiso ima try that
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[06:34:19] <CountryfiedLinux> Are there any plans to make the next Manjaro ISO boot in UEFI in secure boot? It won't boot in Legacy and there's no way to disable secure boot with UEFI in my BIOS.
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[06:35:30] <benfitzpatrick> country try my respin once i make it, see if it works
[06:35:35] <xangua> It already does?
[06:35:46] <benfitzpatrick> idk why it is acting up for ya
[06:35:54] <xangua> At least the main ones
[06:42:54] <benfitzpatrick> yeah no reason it shouldnt boot
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[07:00:25] <bermraj> sup
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[07:04:15] <Hey_Dude72> hello
[07:05:16] <Hey_Dude72> can someone give their opinion of deepin for manjaro?
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[07:19:20] <day|flip> Hey_Dude72: will it not to bad. it just don't like it wifi. i like nm-applet more. it kind of limited customizing going on with it.
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[07:21:03] <Hey_Dude72> so deepin does not like wifi?
[07:21:10] <Hey_Dude72> humm
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[08:20:18] <ringos> Morning
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[08:41:46] <Vlado9A> good morning
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[08:42:08] <ringos> Vlado9A, :!
[08:42:31] <Vlado9A> hi ro you too ringos
[08:42:52] <Vlado9A> *to yo too :)
[08:43:29] <Vlado9A> my fingers need to wake up as well :)
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[08:50:59] <ringos> i must work im lazy :(
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[10:04:49] <NaoTix> Hi
[10:05:22] <ringos> hej NaoTix
[10:14:37] <NaoTix> :)
[10:18:26] <ringos> all ok ?
[10:18:31] <ringos> NaoTix, using Xfce?
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[10:32:46] <NaoTix> yes ringos
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[10:50:27] <ringos> NaoTix, how is your setup?
[10:51:04] <ringos> only topmenu suck to work :p
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[10:51:21] <day|flip> it look very white
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[10:52:54] <Strit_Laptop> Agreed. Very white.
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[10:55:26] <ringos> whiteis cool :)
[10:55:55] <ringos> wallpaper
[10:55:56] <ringos> :)
[10:57:01] <ringos> why do people hates white?
[10:57:35] <Strit_Laptop> It hurts the eyes. :P
[10:57:56] <day|flip> cuz we live in dark room of doom. white kills are eyes
[10:58:07] <ringos> :)
[10:58:40] <ringos> i think you have dark souls ;)
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[10:58:47] * ringos is enlightend ;:)
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[10:59:38] <day|flip> that a good game
[10:59:47] <day|flip> and i do own it for ps3 :)
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[11:01:13] <ringos> !w pleestation
[11:01:14] <Botergos> I had no results for that query.
[11:01:17] <ringos> lol
[11:01:35] <day|flip> you ass hole Botergos ^.~
[11:01:43] <ringos> :)
[11:02:37] <day|flip> !w cram school
[11:02:37]
<Botergos> Cram school - Cram schools or as a whole, crammers, are specialized schools that train their students to meet particular goals, most commonly to pass the entrance examinations of high schools or universities. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cram_school
[11:02:40] <day|flip> lol
[11:02:49] <ringos> !aw kicks
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[11:02:50] <Botergos> I had no results for that query.
[11:02:53] <ringos> :)
[11:03:03] <day|flip> wops you done it again
[11:03:12] <ringos> PS i see it as PleeStation in dutch is like a toilet :-)
[11:03:15] <day|flip> your braking the internet all over again
[11:03:27] <ringos> !aw brake
[11:03:28] <Botergos> I had no results for that query.
[11:03:45] <ringos> !w dayflip
[11:03:50] <day|flip> lol
[11:03:57] <day|flip> wtf does that work
[11:04:11] <ringos> DaFLippityFlop :)
[11:04:26] <ringos> your new name :)
[11:04:41] <day|flip> FUCK you American Dad! go and die in hellllllllllllllllllllllllllll
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[11:05:17] * ringos sucked to much on the e-sig
[11:05:33] <day|flip> :(
[11:07:00] <day|flip> I may try getting my laptop working on linux again. it suck a fking pain. now they have patch for it but every kenernl update is going be pain full to deal with
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[11:09:05] <ringos> you on windows now?
[11:09:11] <ringos> or Haiku-os ?
[11:09:13] <day|flip> not right now
[11:09:32] <day|flip> my nuc is on Solus
[11:09:41] <day|flip> my laptop is on windows
[11:09:54] <day|flip> but it a pain to work with on linux
[11:10:08] <ringos> solus reverted to linux 4.8 i read
[11:10:10] <day|flip> but it stupidly buggy on window
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[11:10:51] <day|flip> that one long title song
[11:11:04] <ringos> mmmm have to go.....
[11:11:08] <ringos> :) have to work :)
[11:11:16] <day|flip> take care ringos
[11:11:41] <ringos> have to move :)
[11:11:46] <ringos> byeee :)
[11:11:59] <day|flip> later
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[11:25:38] <thid_home> morning
[11:26:08] <day|flip> good morning it 3:25 here :)
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[13:05:03] <mital> NanoSector, hey. Just wanted to let you know, that I couldn't compile dlib or other libraries cuda enabled
[13:05:26] <mital> NanoSector, in ubuntu however, it went without problems
[13:07:35] <thid_home> mital what error did u get ?
[13:08:16] <mital> thid_home, gimme a second, i will paste the exact error from dlib
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[13:09:57] <thid_home> did u install base-devel ?
[13:11:01] <mital> thid_home, positive
[13:11:27] <thid_home> try to install with verbose
[13:11:41] <thid_home> or check logs
[13:11:46] <thid_home> to find problem
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[13:15:19] <mital> thid_home, you mean CMakeOutput.log ?
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[13:15:47] <thid_home> yep
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[13:34:54] <mital> thid_home, turns out it was because of newer gcc version 6, wich isn't supported by dlib. Had nothing to do with cuda or nvidia card.
[13:35:15] <mital> NanoSector, thid_home, thank you guys, you helped me a lot:)
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[13:35:21] <thid_home> np
[13:35:52] <day|flip> manjaro do have gcc 48 or 49 don't remember witch in the repo
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[13:41:51] <ringos> thid_home, ARE YOU HOME?
[13:42:10] <thid_home> uhm
[13:42:22] <ringos> :)
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[14:41:33] <NanoSector> mital: cuda isn't compatible with gcc6 iirc, it includes gcc5
[14:42:08] <mital> NanoSector, I had both, gcc6 and gcc5 installed. Had to uninstall gcc6.
[14:42:14] <NanoSector> ah
[14:42:27] <NanoSector> glad you got it working
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[14:45:13] <ringos> flipper-maniac, pfffff mijn e-sig gaat uit de handel pffff
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[15:09:27] <imayar0> good day all
[15:09:45] <Strit_Laptop> imayar0: hey
[15:10:44] <imayar0> hi i am new to linux
[15:11:02] <Strit_Laptop> Good to hear. :)
[15:11:27] <imayar0> and will like to know how to get skype on my system
[15:11:49] <imayar0> i have an asus rog
[15:11:57] <imayar0> 12 gig of ram
[15:12:02] <Strit_Laptop> Skype is called skapeforlinux and is in the AUR.
[15:12:16] <Strit_Laptop> skypeforlinux*
[15:12:17] <imayar0> intel core i7
[15:12:36] <imayar0> ok
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[15:12:56] <imayar0> what aur
[15:12:57] <Strit_Laptop> Be aware, that video is only supported to other Skypeforlinux users at this moment.
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[15:13:22] <Strit_Laptop> AUR is the Arch User Repository. Read the Arch wiki about it before using it.
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[15:13:41] <imayar0> ok thanks
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[15:14:08] <imayar0> and how can i see the hardware on my system
[15:14:28] <Strit_Laptop> Running "inxi -Fxz" gived a good indicator.
[15:14:45] <imayar0> ok going to try now
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[15:16:39] <Strit_Laptop> thid_home: nice. 32 cores?
[15:16:57] <thid_home> 400GB ram dude xD
[15:17:04] <geek> does somebody thinks that vulkan is going to dominate the market ? I hope so, if that happens linux will win as desktop
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[15:17:49] <Strit_Laptop> very nice too
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[15:18:53] <timofonic> Hello
[15:19:07] <timofonic> Are there any difference between Arch and Manjaro?
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[15:20:00] <day|flip> thid_home: is that a server?
[15:20:02] <timofonic> I mean if Manjaro is "just" a customized and easier to install Arch installation or has it's own repo
[15:20:18] <timofonic> And if I can use Arch repo
[15:20:53] <thid_home> day|flip, and what do u think?
[15:21:19] <day|flip> timofonic: manjaro have it own repo. but it ment to test what come from arch but get tested so it hope to be stable once it hit manjaro stable repo
[15:21:46] <timofonic> day|flip: Are there a delay then?
[15:23:00] <day|flip> manjaro have two other repo. unstable = arch linux. mostly a few hour delay. Then testing repo. test to see if it stable to be used in stable repo.
[15:23:40] <day|flip> about 2 week to 6 week delay. it depend on how unstable that package are
[15:23:50] <timofonic> But what's the approx delay between unstable and stable?
[15:23:56] <timofonic> Ah
[15:24:00] <timofonic> I see
[15:25:16] <timofonic> What about nvidia optimus out of the box? It's a nightmare to configure. If it's really easy, going to install it NOW :D
[15:25:18] <day|flip> but thing like security. depend on how bad it is. can be added all at once to all the repo.
[15:25:34] <timofonic> I see
[15:26:29] <day|flip> hybrid gpu is something i never tested on manjaro so i cant speek for my self
[15:27:00] <timofonic> Damn :(
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[15:28:12] <day|flip> but mhwd should notice that your have optimus gpu like nvidia. manjaro used bumblebee for it support.
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[15:29:11] <jinsun> I have optimus, manjaro works flawlessly out of the box
[15:29:25] <timofonic> Isnt bumblebee infamous for slowing down things? I dont mind using nvidia gpu all time
[15:29:28] <day|flip> when you boot up the live cd. it should have option for free and non free. non free is for nvidia driver support side
[15:29:37] <timofonic> jinsun: Isnt bumblebee slow?
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[15:31:34] <jinsun> slow as in when using nvidia? I never use nvidia so I don't know
[15:31:41] <ydayda> hello everyone can anyone please explain to me the changes in manjaro 17?
[15:33:36] <imayar0> i have a nvidia gtx 860m
[15:34:00] <manjaro-kde5> hi guys I'm having difficulty getting virtualbox to see usb devices. Host OS is Manjaro, guest OS is Win7
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[15:35:49] <Strit_Laptop> ydayda: not much has changed, stuff got updated.
[15:37:28] <timofonic> imayar0: I have 960m
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[15:48:00] <manjaro-testers> someone help me? I am trying plasma desktop and all icons is missing, I am using a new home user, tried to change icon theme and it doesn't effect
[15:49:04] <manjaro-testers> omg how can be kde so bad after so many years, it's a blody mess, unstable, ugly and doesn't work most of the time ...
[15:49:54] <Strit_Laptop> manjaro-testers: What do youi mean all icons are gone? in the menu?
[15:50:07] <Strit_Laptop> Live session?
[15:50:28] <manjaro-testers> Strit_Laptop: all icons from everywhere, menu desktop folders
[15:50:44] <manjaro-testers> it only shows the labels
[15:50:49] <Strit_Laptop> Did you reboot after changing icon theme? That usually works.
[15:51:04] <day|flip> have you tried using kde system setting or systemsettings5
[15:51:37] <Strit_Laptop> I've also had KDE not apply icons correctly, but a reboot fixed it.
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[15:54:10] <manjaro-tester> kde sucks indeed, reboot didn't fix
[15:54:24] <manjaro-tester> new user home, fresh conf and no icons
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[15:54:56] <day|flip> that is indeed weird to have no icon. net install or live?
[15:55:06] <timofonic> Is KDE still unstable? I usually use XFCE or Gnome, I was going to give it a try in this Manjaro install
[15:55:23] <manjaro-tester> day|flip: manjaro installed for months
[15:55:24] <Strit_Laptop> You used the KDE Settings to set the icons right?
[15:55:30] <manjaro-tester> dont get trick by my nickname
[15:55:45] <manjaro-tester> Strit_Laptop: yes
[15:55:53] <manjaro-tester> I do
[15:55:59] <Strit_Laptop> what icon set? Does Maia or Breath work?
[15:56:25] <manjaro-tester> lots of icons, nitrux, adawita breeze
[15:56:32] <manjaro-tester> gnome works 100% well
[15:57:02] <Strit_Laptop> Not even breeze works? Sounds like something is wrong on your end. I've had no trouble changing icon themes for a while.
[15:57:25] <timofonic> Strit_Laptop: Do you use KDE?
[15:57:30] <Strit_Laptop> I do
[15:57:49] <Strit_Laptop> Last couple of months at least.
[15:58:01] <timofonic> Strit_Laptop: What's the stability of the system? Is it so much resource hungry?
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[15:58:28] <day|flip> gnome and kde have alway been resource hungry
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[15:58:42] <day|flip> gnome 3 anyway. gnome 2 not so much
[15:58:45] <Strit_Laptop> I find it quite stable. Only crashes I've had, was system settings at some points. Uses about 450 MB's of RAM on a fresh boot for me.
[15:59:51] <manjaro-tester> the problem with kde is, it works randonly, for a few people works well, pretty garbage
[16:00:20] <Strit_Laptop> manjaro-tester: did you install KDE from a KDE iso, or something else?
[16:00:42] <manjaro-tester> sudo pacman -S plasma
[16:00:45] <manjaro-tester> only that
[16:00:58] <manjaro-tester> and installed all stuff
[16:01:03] <Strit_Laptop> You are probably missing something then. Or you have some conflict about icon cache.
[16:01:14] <manjaro-tester> removed everything frmo .cache
[16:01:26] <day|flip> manjaro-tester: look in systemsettings5 see if there a different theme set on that
[16:01:34] <manjaro-tester> strace -eopen didn't show any issue
[16:01:37] <Strit_Laptop> I'm not talking about user cache. I'm talking about the generation of the iconcache.
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[16:02:29] <manjaro-tester> Strit_Laptop: this is a new home user, how would such thing happen
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[16:02:48] <Strit_Laptop> Icon cache is not user specific I think. :P
[16:03:12] <manjaro-tester> I think it has a bug in qt5ctl < something like that
[16:03:13] <Strit_Laptop> Did you install manjaro-kde-settings as well, before you created the user?
[16:03:25] <manjaro-tester> I had to install this shit days ago to get qt apps running again
[16:03:27] <Strit_Laptop> KDE does not use qt5ct.
[16:04:15] <manjaro-tester> Strit_Laptop: thank you, I will purge all kde shit from here, worst shit ever
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[16:04:55] <Strit_Laptop> Too bad. KDE works quite well for me.
[16:05:06] <manjaro-tester> I use kde since version 1, after version 3 it died into a bloated shit
[16:05:13] <manjaro-tester> yes, for you not for me
[16:05:17] <manjaro-tester> it works randonly
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[16:05:33] <Strit_Laptop> I have a quite minimal KDE though, so, that could be it
[16:05:36] <manjaro-tester> it conflicts so easy with users system settings
[16:05:47] <manjaro-tester> gnome never has these kind of issues
[16:05:56] <manjaro-tester> I will try xfce again or gnome thanks
[16:06:17] <day|flip> or why not budgie. it the lightwight of gnome :)
[16:06:28] <manjaro-tester> I have 16gb ram
[16:06:42] <day|flip> i used it with 32gb :)
[16:06:57] <manjaro-tester> lightwight for what? gnome is pretty fast
[16:07:06] <day|flip> the only thing that bug me on budgie is alt tab
[16:08:18] <vingthor> hello. i have a little problem which i cant seem to fix. i have manjaro + gnome installed and when my pc boots it does into gnome, but i want it to boot to my login screen, to be able to use another environment (i3)
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[16:08:38] <manjaro-tester> thanks you all, I like your support
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[16:09:22] <Strit_Laptop> vingthor: seems like you have autologin enabled in your display manager.
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[16:10:07] <day|flip> getting coffee. i brb ahh idk when :)
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[16:17:44] <vingthor> i think my display manager is ligthdm
[16:18:31] <magican> verify it then?
[16:18:54] <vingthor> ok I'll check it
[16:19:19] <magican> [magican@megatron ~]$ pacman -Q | grep slim
[16:19:21] <magican> slim 1.3.6-6
[16:19:23] <magican> slim-themes 1.2.3-7
[16:19:34] <magican> I use slim obviously :)
[16:19:52] <magican> [magican@megatron ~]$ systemctl status slim.service
[16:19:54] <magican> ● slim.service - SLiM Simple Login Manager
[16:19:56] <magican> Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/slim.service; enabled; vendor preset:
[16:19:58] <magican> Active: active (running) since Sun 2017-01-15 16:11:09 UTC; 8min ago
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[16:20:02] <Mortvert> isn't slim unsupported?
[16:20:13] <Mortvert> or no longer maintained
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[16:20:25] <thid_home> who cares it works
[16:20:26] <magican> I run pure Arch nowadays. Slim + openbox = win =)
[16:20:40] <thid_home> bah I move to dde
[16:20:42] * Mortvert shrugs
[16:20:45] <Mortvert> Your box, your choice.
[16:20:45] <thid_home> and I liek it
[16:21:04] <magican> I have hardware for anything, but I got sick of KDE + compiz and fancy pancy.. openbox with kbd shortcuts to everything ;)
[16:21:09] <magican> We all end up there sooner or later..
[16:21:46] <magican> Wyecandy and effects is fun for a while, but not everyday.
[16:21:49] <magican> Eyecandy*
[16:22:06] <thid_home> magican, so true, and yet I find deepin rly nice for work
[16:22:40] <magican> Openbox + a DE should work? Since openbox is only a WM.
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[16:22:58] <vingthor> [kevin@Midgard ~]$ pacman -Q | grep lightdm
[16:22:58] <vingthor> lightdm 1:1.18.3-1
[16:22:58] <vingthor> lightdm-gtk-greeter 1:2.0.2-1
[16:22:58] <vingthor> lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings 1.2.1-4
[16:22:58] <vingthor> lightdm-webkit2-greeter-manjaro 1.3.0-1
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[16:23:58] <magican> vingthor: So u have it installed, 99% sure u use it, but check with systemctl to verify it's active.
[16:24:06] <magican> systemctl status lightdm.service
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[16:24:52] <magican> Output => Active: active (running)
[16:25:17] <vingthor> [kevin@Midgard ~]$ systemctl status lightdm.service
[16:25:17] <vingthor> ● lightdm.service - Light Display Manager
[16:25:17] <vingthor> Loaded: error (Reason: File exists)
[16:25:17] <vingthor> Active: inactive (dead)
[16:25:17] <vingthor> Docs: man:lightdm(1)
[16:25:18] <vingthor> [kevin@Midgard ~]$ systemctl status lightdm.service
[16:25:18] <vingthor> ● lightdm.service - Light Display Manager
[16:25:19] <vingthor> Loaded: error (Reason: File exists)
[16:25:19] <vingthor> Active: inactive (dead)
[16:25:20] <vingthor> Docs: man:lightdm(1)
[16:25:26] <magican> Active: inactive (dead) :D
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[16:26:00] <magican> Now we are getting there.. but, since I didn't see what the problem was. What are we talking about? ligtdm won't work I guess?
[16:26:21] <vingthor> it works when i log out
[16:26:33] <magican> But not at 1st boot?
[16:27:14] <vingthor> exactly. when i want to use another environment i have to boot to gnome for example then log out and then select i3 and log back in
[16:27:58] <magican> Ah. I suppose you've done the 'systemctl enable lightdm.service' ?
[16:28:14] <Mortvert> I like how smoothly manjaro works on my netbook
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[16:28:45] <magican> Mortvert: Pure Arch also ;)
[16:29:07] <Mortvert> Last time I tried setting arch by myself I threw it outta window, entire install I mean.
[16:29:21] <vingthor> [kevin@Midgard ~]$ systemctl enable lightdm.service
[16:29:21] <vingthor> Failed to enable unit: File /etc/systemd/system/display-manager.service already exists and is a symlink to /usr/lib/systemd/system/lightdm-plymouth.service.
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[16:32:11] <sonofdirt> weee 1st live boot about to install :D
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[16:32:22] <Manjo90> Hello
[16:32:26] <sonofdirt> hi
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[16:33:11] <Manjo90> I'm a arch/manjaro newbie. And love it already, but to full happiness I require Spotify client. I have trouble installing it.
[16:33:36] <Manjo90> Any kind soul that has some spare time to help out? ^^
[16:34:19] <thid_home> Manjo90, yaourt -S spotify
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[16:35:03] <Manjo90> I tried that
[16:35:16] <thid_home> and?
[16:35:16] <Manjo90> picked #32 Spotify 1.0.45
[16:35:26] <Manjo90> and it failed to build
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[16:35:51] <thid_home> then u need to provide us with error
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[16:38:34] <thid_home> u need to edit PKGBUILD
[16:38:37] <thid_home> and update linkd
[16:38:41] <thid_home> links*
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[16:40:24] <Manjo90> How to do I edit this? (newb question, I know)
[16:41:49] <Manjo90> yeah and there's a prompt to to type something in
[16:41:57] <thid_home> type nano
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[16:46:10] <magican> Manjo90:
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[16:46:31] <magican> spotify 1.0.45.186-1 runs fine on my system
[16:46:34] <magican> BUT!
[16:46:37] <Manjo90> It's building!
[16:46:43] <magican> Login make it crash :D
[16:47:01] <NanoSector> thid_home: you'll need a lot of characters to type me
[16:47:05] <Manjo90> I tried Fedora 25 and Spotify doesn't like Wayland
[16:47:11] <Manjo90> Cannot enter settings
[16:47:20] <magican> spotify --username=<username> --password=<ur password>
[16:47:26] <magican> works fine! but not login in gui
[16:47:27] <NanoSector> i can't login without it crashing :P
[16:47:29] <magican> strange huh =)
[16:47:34] <magican> NanoSector: try that insted
[16:47:42] <NanoSector> will do, thanks, is it permanent?
[16:47:42] <magican> spotify --username= --password=
[16:47:45] <magican> Nope
[16:47:49] <NanoSector> oh
[16:48:09] <magican> Make a file for it, or as in my case, I have it in the rc.xml so it launch spotify with thoose arguments
[16:48:24] <magican> 99.9% it will work.
[16:48:30] <magican> some strange.com bug =)
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[16:48:55] <magican> let me know result of it
[16:49:04] <NanoSector> username or password is incorrect, nice
[16:49:41] <magican> Thats problem A, crash at login is problem B =)
[16:49:46] <NanoSector> hehe
[16:49:52] <magican> BUT! It didn't crash ;)
[16:50:03] <NanoSector> :D progress
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[16:50:15] <Manjo90> Success!
[16:50:24] <magican> :D
[16:50:29] <Manjo90> Manjaro 16 : Fedora 25
[16:50:32] <Manjo90> 1 : 0
[16:51:30] <magican> Gotta love linux, sure, problem do come every now and then, but they can all be solved fairly easy.
[16:51:49] <magican> Saw a old video yesterday with Linus Torvalds when he say "nvidia - fuck you"
[16:51:51] <magican> haha
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[16:52:05] <Manjo90> Well, there is also Antergos. I am trying to find a good stable, up to date, developer friendly distro to replace Mint at my workplace. And I was positively surprised that Manjaro already has Git, JDK 8 installed and VLC with codecs for video :D
[16:52:39] <Manjo90> Me loves out-of-box experience
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[16:53:01] <magican> Arch - when u don't love it
[16:53:03] <magican> :D
[16:53:25] <magican> Have had a good few hours of stupid problem with it (stuff that work out-of-the-box) in manjaro
[16:53:37] <magican> Whiiiich is kinda funny since its based on arch :)
[16:54:08] <magican> (i hang here cos I used manjaro for a quite some time, and on old forum 'tsw_sweden' is /me
[16:54:53] <Manjo90> I love my IntelliJ IDEA, but key shortcuts clash, and IDEA has mappings for KDE, so I was looking for a nice distro with KDE and manaro is now a serious candidate to replace good ol' Mint
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[16:56:13] <magican> So, on ur checklist, whats left to make it a 100% candidate?
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[16:57:51] <Manjo90> 1. Out-of-box video playback with VLC, 2. repos with newest versions of git. I had so much trouble before I realized that I have an outdated git installed
[16:59:14] <Manjo90> A gui compatible with IntellJ -> KDE, Gnome
[16:59:43] <Manjo90> In mint I had to add a ppa repo to get the 2.10 git\
[17:00:03] <Manjo90> Manjaro had it out of box
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[17:00:39] <Manjo90> Manjaro speaks with stability, soft is 2 weeks in testing before letting it in. Antergos offers 6 GUIs at install
[17:01:27] <Manjo90> And I can't let my linux go apeshit while I work. At home I can install whatever I want. At work I need something cutting-edge but STABLE
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[17:03:09] <Manjo90> After getting my Spotify to work nicely I am happy with Manjaro, but I am temtped to try out Antergos. So I will play with a bunch of distro before I will choose the one and only
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[17:06:05] <NanoSector> manjaro probably fits you better than antergos
[17:06:10] <NanoSector> (i'm an antergos support team member)
[17:08:59] <Manjo90> Could you elaborate NanoSector?
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[17:09:49] <NanoSector> Manjo90: manjaro isn't necessarily more stable but its updates are less frequent and the team has the ability to fix any remaining bugs/issues with the manjaro tools before the update gets pushed
[17:10:16] <NanoSector> Manjo90: antergos doesn't really have that opportunity sincce its updates are directly pushed from arch without any notice, so things can break
[17:10:33] <Manjo90> Oh, that's an important factor.
[17:11:17] <Manjo90> Since I don't need anything bleeding-edge then Manjaro proably fits perfectly.
[17:12:32] <NanoSector> it's not often antergos breaks but in a work environment like you described it might be important since you want to work and not fix your system
[17:13:35] <Manjo90> Mint updates once broke my Cinnamon gui. I was like whaaaa
[17:14:14] <NanoSector> kde's never broken for me on arch
[17:14:37] <NanoSector> even after moving to the latest unstable/beta release and back to stable, it hasn't
[17:15:34] <Manjo90> I used Ubuntu once, on a old computer. Never again with that clogy Unity thing. Mint was a good starter for a Windows user. But when I had trouble because Mint updates didn't include newer versions of Git I was very upset with it and I don't have time to play with Mint upgrades. And Arch based systems have rolling-release.
[17:16:06] <NanoSector> :)
[17:16:28] <NanoSector> debian and derivatives are notorious for being out of date
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[17:19:33] <Manjo90> I will play with Manjaro more and when time is ripe I will take some time to wipe the ssd and install Manjaro, but it seems then next chance for such a thing will be when I will receive a new computer at work or change jobs and will be asked to set my work environment. But I have it on my home PC, and I like to fiddle with programming outside of work when I feel like it.
[17:20:53] <NanoSector> nice. just know we're always here if you have any questions :)
[17:21:39] <Manjo90> Thank you ^^ I will drop in when I will have trouble :)
[17:21:45] <Manjo90> Have a nice evening :D
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[17:22:00] <NanoSector> you too :)
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[17:28:28] <Nephe> Hi everyone ! Is there an "easy" way to swich between different manjaro edition ? (by easy, I mean, clean and without a full installation of the distribution)
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[17:46:00] <dmti> Hi all, can smbd help me with installing and running skypeforlinuxalpha-bit from AUR ver 1.15? I have fresh install Manjaro 16.10.3
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[17:46:29] <dmti> But when I try to login it shows only blank screen (
[17:47:26] <dmti> I found 1 advise to downgrade to 1.14 but I cant do it with yaourt
[17:47:38] <dmti> thanks a lot for any help
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[18:11:56] <Mortvert> This is second goddamn time where I leave my netbook for half an hour, monitor turns off and I can't turn it on without forcefully shutting the machine down. :I
[18:12:01] <Mortvert> Any idea what might be causing it?
[18:12:15] <Mortvert> (by forcefully shutting it down I mean holding the power button)
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[18:18:03] <magican> Mortvert: Nope, but I can say that my pure Arch machine do thesama thing (sometimes)
[18:18:16] <magican> So not a 100% manjaro problem was my point.
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[18:26:03] <thid_home> Mortvert, ctrl+alt+delete dont work ?
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[18:26:30] <Mortvert> thid_home - didn't occur for me to check but ctrl+alt+f2 didn't
[18:27:21] <thid_home> if ctrl+alt+delete then its GPU driver problems + power safe
[18:27:38] <Mortvert> I am going to let it sit for a while and see if it works
[18:27:42] <Mortvert> If it doesn't - hello debian
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[18:37:00] <xnite> hey guys, whenever my laptop goes to sleep and comes back it says the wifi switch has been turned off. Well I have no switch, so it can't be turned off.
[18:37:37] <xnite> I want to disable sleep and I've gone through I think it was logind.conf to set lid close to ignore and stuff, but yet still when I close the lid it goes into sleep mode.
[18:38:03] <xnite> so far the only thing I can do when the laptop lid is closed is reboot the computer to get my wifi back
[18:39:09] <xnite> waiting on it to reboot right now and then I'll paste the conf file I have
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<Botergos> [https://is.gd/iaML3o] # cat /etc/systemd/logind.conf # This file is part of systemd. # # systemd - Pastebin.com
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[18:47:20] <xnite> preferably I would like to disable sleep and hybernation all together.
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[19:10:10] <Dyla> whenever i try to downoad from the repository i get an "unexpected error occured" message. please help!
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[19:13:26] <Dyla> any ideas with that error message
[19:14:46] <roch> Dyla, sudo pacman -Syy
[19:14:54] <roch> sudo pacman-key --refresh-keys
[19:15:05] <roch> sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux manjaro
[19:15:15] <roch> what happens next
[19:16:21] <Dyla> command not found
[19:17:00] <roch> type: uname -a
[19:17:27] <Dyla> i think i got it
[19:17:42] <roch> I think smth terrible happened :D
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[19:18:31] <Dyla> let me try it now
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[19:20:31] <NewUser> Hey
[19:20:33] <NewUser> Guys
[19:20:41] <NewUser> need help with installing manjaro
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[19:20:49] <NewUser> Alongside windows 10
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<benfitzpatrick> hi guys, i got my majaro custom ISO building but when it makes the .img file it gives a no space left on device error. idk why http://pastebin.com/7xdxyVNs i have over 200gb left on my HDD so there's no reason it should do this ..
[19:23:13] <benfitzpatrick> idk what's wrong
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[19:25:23] <Strit_Laptop> Disable PXE boot!
[19:25:49] <benfitzpatrick> pardon
[19:26:20] <benfitzpatrick> i dont have PXE on my laptop
[19:26:35] <Strit_Laptop> I mean in the iso profile.
[19:26:41] <benfitzpatrick> idk where that is
[19:26:51] <Strit_Laptop> It's in the profile.conf file
[19:26:55] <benfitzpatrick> oh got it
[19:27:18] <Strit_Laptop> PXE makes the efi bit to large, it makes it 33 MB, and the limit is 31.
[19:27:23] <benfitzpatrick> gotcha
[19:27:25] * xnite has been waiting patiently for almost an hour, but has to go soon.
[19:27:55]
<xnite> whenever my laptop goes to sleep and comes back it says the wifi switch has been turned off. Well I have no switch, so it can't be turned off. I want to disable sleep and I've gone through I think it was logind.conf to set lid close to ignore and stuff, but yet still when I close the lid it goes into sleep mode. so far the only thing I can do when the laptop lid is closed is reboot the computer to get my wifi back. Here is my logind.conf: http://pastebin
[19:27:55] <xnite> .com/Sdrenqbj
[19:28:16] <benfitzpatrick> so i set pxe boot to false correct?
[19:28:21] <Strit_Laptop> yes
[19:28:29] <benfitzpatrick> cool ill try it
[19:28:36] <thid_home> god I'm hungry...chinese or pizza?
[19:28:48] <xnite> thid_home: I'm having chinese today
[19:29:07] <thid_home> ok gona get myself chinese
[19:29:09] <benfitzpatrick> good
[19:30:17] <xnite> I was kinda hoping I would be able to just close my laptop lid when I leave but if I do I won't have wifi when I get back. :/
[19:30:45] <Strit_Laptop> xnite: Wifi comes back on for me, it does not for you?
[19:31:40] <xnite> Strit_Laptop: nope, and I have to reboot every time
[19:32:14] <xnite> I'm on the Deepin desktop with an HP Pavilion (I have no idea the model number because it doesn't say on the laptop and I threw away the box)
[19:33:03] <benfitzpatrick> i never tried deepin desktop
[19:33:42] <xnite> its nice
[19:33:47] <xnite> but takes some getting used to
[19:33:49] <benfitzpatrick> i might install it
[19:33:51] <Strit_Laptop> I'm on KDE. Don't know how deepin handles it.
[19:34:28] <xnite> well if deepin is causing the issue, I can't find an answer
[19:34:52]
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[19:34:52] <Strit_Laptop> Try in another desktop? A lightweight gtk one, like xfce?
[19:35:04] <benfitzpatrick> i love xfce, i have it, no complains
[19:35:15] <xnite> xfce is nice
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[19:35:41] <TechnoViking> Can't you just disable sleep on close from power management?
[19:36:01] <xnite> TechnoViking: I don't have anything called power management
[19:36:11] <xnite> so I edited the logind.conf file in hopes that would work
[19:36:28] <xnite> that's what several sites said to do, but it just doesn't work for me
[19:36:38] <TechnoViking> Well, I'll admit I don't know Deepin. Weird that you don't have it at all.
[19:36:59] <xnite> idk I seen it in community releases and it looked nice so I thought I would try it
[19:37:12] <xnite> I'm in the deepin support channel now asking if they handle sleep and how to disable
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[19:37:32] <thid_home> lol deepin have power management
[19:37:37] <xangua> Deepin uses gnome so you should have gnome energy settings
[19:37:48] <xangua> Power settings* that is
[19:37:59] <thid_home> control center -> power managment
[19:38:10] <xnite> I don't seem to have any of that :(
[19:38:18] <thid_home> yes u do
[19:38:20] <xangua> Wait I think I'm confused... So much gnome shells out there
[19:38:22] <thid_home> I use deepin -_-
[19:38:22] <xnite> owait
[19:38:32] <xnite> control center is that little thing that comes up on the left side
[19:38:39] <thid_home> yeeee
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[19:39:22] <xnite> well
[19:39:26] <TechnoViking> You should have it somewhere in there. Try disabling the sleep on lid close (don't forget to look under AC and Battery options)
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[19:39:30] <xnite> wifi still turns off when I close the lid
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[19:39:40] <xnite> but I can turn it back on without reboot
[19:39:42] <xnite> so that's a start
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[19:40:02] <Strit_Laptop> ofcourse it turns off. that's how it works. You said it wouldn't start up again after?
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[19:40:41] <xnite> it does now that it doesn't sleep. it won't start again after if it goes to sleep
[19:41:37] <xnite> all I want to happen when I close the lid is to have it turn off the display and stay there doing what it's doing. I tend to torrent and I want that stuff to keep going
[19:41:58] <TechnoViking> Have you tested whether it's actually disonneted or if the applet just doesn't show?
[19:42:00] <Strit_Laptop> Ah, fair enough. That should be an option though.
[19:42:17] <xnite> when I close the lid now, I have to turn wifi back on manually
[19:43:29] <xnite> its okay though I guess i'm not bothered too much by it, not as much as the original issue I was having
[19:43:46] <TechnoViking> But is the wifi actually disconnected (can you not go online) or is the wifi applet saying it's disconnected when it's actually not?
[19:43:57] <xnite> no I can't go online
[19:44:04] <xnite> wifi completely disabled
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[19:44:15] <xnite> all my apps disconnect (irc, vpn)
[19:45:21] <xnite> and just double checked, totally offline
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[19:46:16] <TechnoViking> Hmm, weird. Does it do it even if you have a live distro running? You could use a live USB to test if it's an issue with you distro, or possibly hardware related.
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[19:46:22] <xnite> its fine though this is a problem for another day because I have to start getting ready to go
[19:46:47] <xnite> thanks for the tip on disabling sleep y'all
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[19:47:13] <TechnoViking> Your welcome.
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[19:49:46] <CountryfiedLinux> good afternoon
[19:53:03] <benfitzpatrick> hey
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[19:56:11] <benfitzpatrick> well im still getting the no space on device when i build my iso
[19:56:23] <benfitzpatrick> i did disable PXE, at least i thought
[19:59:08] <rhg135> good afternoon manjaroites
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[20:00:24] <rhg135> I'm a traitor :'(
[20:00:33] <Strit_Laptop> Why? Did you go to Ubunty?
[20:00:37] <rhg135> I have gone to the dark side
[20:00:40] <rhg135> worse
[20:00:44] <Strit_Laptop> Windows?
[20:00:51] <rhg135> I went to windows
[20:00:54] <benfitzpatrick> Strit_Laptop, idk if i disabled PXE or not
[20:01:11] <Strit_Laptop> How does your profile.conf look?
[20:01:22] <benfitzpatrick> idk ill paste it
[20:01:41] <rhg135> I feel wrong
[20:01:54] <Strit_Laptop> rhg135: you should.....
[20:02:09] <rhg135> but stuff works; I miss i3 though
[20:02:35] <Strit_Laptop> Just cleaned a Win10 for malware. I'm never going back to windows.
[20:02:42] <rhg135> I need help
[20:03:11] <rhg135> only idiots and unlucky people get malware
[20:03:17] <rhg135> I can be both
[20:04:05] <benfitzpatrick> i have pxe_boot uncommented and set to false, but it still errors
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[20:04:20] <Strit_Laptop> Seems correct. Is it the same error?
[20:04:40] <rhg135> tbh I don't need windows right now so brb
[20:04:46] <benfitzpatrick> ya
[20:04:50] <benfitzpatrick> same error
[20:05:23] <benfitzpatrick> oddly
[20:06:22] <Strit_Laptop> That is odd. Can't help you then, it works for me.
[20:07:07] <robin0800> benfitzpatrick, are you on openrc ?
[20:07:17] <benfitzpatrick> robin0800, no systemd
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[20:08:00] <robin0800> benfitzpatrick, what tools version ?
[20:08:31] <benfitzpatrick> robin0800, hold on
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[20:08:51] <benfitzpatrick> 16.10.1
[20:09:14] <Strit_Laptop> benfitzpatrick: that's not the tools version.
[20:09:16] <robin0800> benfitzpatrick, no 13 or 14
[20:09:21] <benfitzpatrick> its 13
[20:09:26] <Strit_Laptop> It's probably 13.8.
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[20:09:52] <benfitzpatrick> it is
[20:10:03] <benfitzpatrick> and its not working for me
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[20:10:51] <benfitzpatrick> oddly
[20:11:20] <robin0800> benfitzpatrick, whats the error message and where about in the build?
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[20:11:37] <rhg135> woo; back in a decent os
[20:11:47] <benfitzpatrick> its where it copies the boot files
[20:11:56] <benfitzpatrick> images i mean
[20:12:22] <benfitzpatrick> it says no space left on device
[20:12:30] <benfitzpatrick> i disabled PXE in my profile.conf, same error
[20:12:44] <benfitzpatrick> i got 200gb+ on my HDD it still errors
[20:12:57] <magican> rhg135: I have win10 _only_ cos of all Batllefields ;P
[20:13:11] <benfitzpatrick> i dont see that as a bad thing rhg135
[20:13:22] <robin0800> benfitzpatrick, try adding efitools to root packages
[20:13:25] <magican> rhg135: Linux on SSD and decent hardware is a sexual experience :D
[20:13:28] <benfitzpatrick> hmm ok
[20:13:51] <magican> linux + win + grub + efi = assfc-k without lube
[20:14:03] <benfitzpatrick> robin0800, it has efitools in that file
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[20:16:01] <robin0800> benfitzpatrick, how did you install the tools?
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[20:16:55] <benfitzpatrick> robin0800 pacman -S manjaro-tools
[20:17:03] <benfitzpatrick> then i just hit enter
[20:19:02] <robin0800> benfitzpatrick, did that install everything manager-tools-iso has a lot of dependencies
[20:19:33] <benfitzpatrick> im not sure
[20:19:42] <benfitzpatrick> it installed all packages
[20:19:50] <benfitzpatrick> thats all i know
[20:20:13] <robin0800> benfitzpatrick, have you apackage manager?
[20:20:21] <benfitzpatrick> yes
[20:20:25] <benfitzpatrick> pacman
[20:20:43] <benfitzpatrick> and pamac for a gui
[20:20:51] <robin0800> benfitzpatrick, reinstall it using that
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[20:22:02] <benfitzpatrick> ok
[20:22:06] <robin0800> benfitzpatrick, just use the groups tab and manjaro-tools
[20:22:09] <benfitzpatrick> ok
[20:22:19] <CountryfiedLinux> Hey any updates on a new Manjaro ISO? The current one fails to boot on UEFI with secure boot on. No way to turn secure boot off in UEFI and it isn't detected in Legacy.
[20:22:58] <magican> What odd BIOS do u have?
[20:23:00] <magican> :P
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[20:23:16] <thid_home> CountryfiedLinux, so far nope
[20:24:20] <robin0800> CountryfiedLinux, you can build one there is an arch wiki Ive done it and it worked
[20:25:09] <magican> Or just do a pure arch install insted.
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[20:26:39] <robin0800> magican, not sure arch has keys I generated own keys from the arch wiki page
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[20:27:49] <israuor> hm... can anoone of you install / update "ttf-oxygen" from AUR ?
[20:28:48] <magican> israuor: No problems.
[20:29:14] <magican> After install, to verify
[20:29:16] <magican> [magican@megatron ~]$ pacman -Q | grep ttf-oxygen
[20:29:18] <magican> ttf-oxygen 1:5.4.3-3
[20:29:38] <israuor> ?
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[20:30:32] <magican> Pure Arch ftw :D Na, kidding.. I take a look at that log.
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[20:31:44] <magican> Update ur python and ur good to go.
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[20:32:13] <magican> <--- python 3.6.0-1
[20:35:00] <israuor> is installed
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[20:48:06] <israuor> hm... activated testing ... updated everything... installed ttf-oxygen ... works ;)
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[20:49:00] <magican> Strange
[20:49:27] <magican> I don't have testing though.. however I run a pure arch system, maybe different in some versions or whatever.
[20:49:50] <magican> Don't dare testing on arch ;P
[20:52:02]
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[20:54:36] <israuor> running manjaro.
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[20:55:00] <israuor> actually it was netrunner rolling.. but since netrunner rolling isn't alive anymore.it's manjaro.
[20:55:04] <sonofdirt> im getting a black screen when trying to install via Calamares..
[20:55:31] <sonofdirt> i do the setup and it saarts to install, then black :/
[20:56:00] <sonofdirt> this laptop is rather old, Pentium M, non-pae, Ati mobility radeon 9000
[20:56:07] <sonofdirt> oh well,
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[20:56:34] <sonofdirt> is there another install method than Calamares?
[20:57:06] <thid_home> yeah
[20:57:07] <thid_home> cli
[20:58:05] <sonofdirt> ok ill read up on it thnx
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[20:59:13] <rhg135> cli installer is just a figment of your imagination now
[20:59:41] <benfitzpatrick> well i re-installed manjaro-tools it still errors
[20:59:57] <benfitzpatrick> same one
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[21:02:07] <thid_home> rhg135, ?
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[21:02:51] <rhg135> is it not deprecated now, thid_home?
[21:03:15] <thid_home> well then why netinstall use it ?
[21:03:16] <rhg135> it wasnt on the last cd I used
[21:03:34] <Strit_Laptop> net install has no new ISO.
[21:03:38] <rhg135> I think around 16.10
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[21:03:57] <rhg135> 16.08, yes, 16.10 just calamares
[21:04:00] <Strit_Laptop> 16.08 was the last netinstall.
[21:04:05] <thid_home> coz they to lazy to ugprade it
[21:04:29] <rhg135> yeah who needs installers
[21:04:51] <rhg135> they are a silly wrapper over unsquashfs anyway
[21:04:57] <rhg135> ;)
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[21:05:05] <manjaro_> Hello all
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[21:05:38] <manjaro_> someone knows where I can get some info on a manjaro 232 that doesn reboot properly (5 to 10 minutes)
[21:05:43] <thid_home> well it stil lworks
[21:05:52] <manjaro_> some errors from kworker, upowerd, nv_tco
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[21:07:09] <rhg135> there is also pacman y'know
[21:07:10] <manjaro_> also in the update get stuck by nvidia-304xx and had to break and continue again with a new call to pacmen -Syyu --force
[21:07:17] <manjaro_> any idea?
[21:07:40] <rhg135> pacstrap is just a silly wrapper around pacman ;P
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[21:25:32] <galaktak> hello
[21:26:33] <galaktak> I've got a WiFi adapter Broadcom B4322 that works fine when I use the newest Manjaro Live USB
[21:27:18] <galaktak> but after installing the system, WiFi is just unable to list, detect, anything
[21:27:41] <galaktak> the system was upgraded after the installation
[21:30:16] <thid_home> mhwd -l
[21:30:22] <thid_home> in terminal
[21:31:32] <galaktak> and then what?
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[21:33:36] <magican> lspci -v ?
[21:33:50] <thid_home> galaktak, give us output ?
[21:33:51] <galaktak> doesn't show the device
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[21:34:18] <galaktak> i've got only ethernet dev
[21:34:43] <magican> │ Colt
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[21:34:47] <magican> ops
[21:34:55] <magican> aur/b43-firmware 6.30.163.46-1 (240) (1,96)
[21:34:57] <magican> Firmware for Broadcom B43 wireless networking chips - latest release
[21:35:06] <magican> install that then =)
[21:35:29] <galaktak> and after installation do I have to do something with kernel?
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[21:36:53] <magican> U shouldn't have too.
[21:37:18] <magican> I bought a USB wifi stick, yaourt'ed the drivers, reboot, bam worked.
[21:37:22] <magican> so, give it a go!
[21:37:28] <galaktak> okay, thx!
[21:37:30] <galaktak> i'll do that
[21:37:51] <magican> Problem is possible ofc.. but we take that IF it is problem .)
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[21:41:41] <galaktak> [manjaro@manjaro ~]$ sudo pacman -Sw b43-firmware
[21:41:41] <galaktak> error: target not found: b43-firmware
[21:41:41] <galaktak> [manjaro@manjaro ~]$ sudo pacman -Sw aur/b43-firmware
[21:41:41] <galaktak> error: database not found: aur
[21:41:48] <galaktak> :(
[21:42:13] <galaktak> do i have to add a database to download from aur?
[21:42:34] <Strit_Laptop> you hav eto use yaourt.
[21:43:32] <thid_home> yaourt -S b43-firmware
[21:45:38] <galaktak> ok thx!
[21:47:29] <CoffeePad> galaktak: just do everything with yaourt
[21:47:51] <CoffeePad> I also can download from normal repos
[21:49:15] <galaktak> CoffeePad, ok
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[21:50:41] <CoffeePad> galaktak: but if you don't like yaourt there are also Pacaur and cower I believe that where the name correct me if I am wrong
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[21:53:31] <magican> so galaktak , progress?
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[21:54:48] <galaktak> magican, ok I've got a question
[21:55:21] <galaktak> do i have to EDITPKG at the beginning?
[21:57:21] <magican> Usually no.
[21:58:27] <galaktak> ok
[21:58:38] <galaktak> and after that where is the package to install?
[21:58:57] <galaktak> or after yaourt I don't have to do anything?
[21:59:58] <Strit_Laptop> yaourt also installs it.
[22:00:14] <magican> Reboot or modprobe
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[22:02:39] <galaktak> ok
[22:02:48] <galaktak> installs w/o root? strange
[22:03:25] <Strit_Laptop> No, it asked you for a password. That's where it got it's "root".
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[22:10:09] <benfitzpatrick> well all, i re-installed manjaro-tools, rebooted, its still giving me the no space left on device error
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[22:10:31] <benfitzpatrick> in the efiboot folder
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[22:12:44] <benfitzpatrick> idk why this keeps occuring
[22:13:21] <benfitzpatrick> i disabled PXE, but .. no change
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[22:18:55] <benfitzpatrick> so idk
[22:21:20] <jirido> Hi boyz and galz. I try to run reflash from unrevoked but it cant find error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory. But whereis gives libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 location of /usr/lib that i have even added to the PATH. but even so i cant get reflash to find lib-gtk-x11..... What can i do?
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[22:22:37] <benfitzpatrick> jirido, well im having problems too, no fix yet, and i had my issue for..6-7 days
[22:22:39] <jirido> Reflash is a program to make htc desire hd root
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[22:22:49] <benfitzpatrick> over a week now almost
[22:22:51] <benfitzpatrick> or 2
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[22:24:41] <jirido> benfitzpatrick: What? Do you have the same problem with libgtk or did you have it with reflash? or is it a general libgtk problem you say?
[22:24:57] <benfitzpatrick> jirido, its a manjaro respin build error
[22:25:36] <benfitzpatrick> it keeps saying no space left on device in the efiboot folder, and i built it almost 5 times, same error
[22:25:42] <jirido> Uj. so is there no fix for weeks..?? 0_o
[22:25:47] <benfitzpatrick> ironically
[22:25:54] <benfitzpatrick> yes
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[22:26:09] <benfitzpatrick> nobody has helped fix this
[22:26:10] <jirido> so is there a work around
[22:26:23] <benfitzpatrick> idk what to do
[22:26:32] <benfitzpatrick> i have found a fix yet in 2+ weeks
[22:26:46] <benfitzpatrick> not here, on the forum, google, nowhere
[22:27:01] <jirido> Shiiit..
[22:27:10] <benfitzpatrick> yeah, idk what im gonna do
[22:27:28] <benfitzpatrick> and this is on my school laptop too
[22:27:35] <jirido> Is this specific arch?
[22:27:40] <benfitzpatrick> 64bit
[22:28:03] <jirido> all 64 bit linux or arch
[22:28:09] <benfitzpatrick> its manjaro
[22:28:16] <jirido> ups
[22:28:18] <benfitzpatrick> pure 64bit
[22:28:39] <jirido> so what is the problem?
[22:29:06] <benfitzpatrick> well, it builds, but when it gets to the efi portion, it says "no space left on device" and it said this over 5 times now
[22:29:13] <jirido> does it not register it self or is corrupt?
[22:29:17] <benfitzpatrick> i disable all that i see for EFI, no luck
[22:29:31] <benfitzpatrick> i have no idea
[22:29:44] <benfitzpatrick> all it says is "no space left on device" thats all i know
[22:30:08] <benfitzpatrick> and i have 200+gigs free on my HD
[22:30:33] <jirido> is this libgtk-x11-2.0 you are talking about?
[22:30:38] <benfitzpatrick> no..
[22:30:49] <jirido> or idk?
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[22:30:52] <benfitzpatrick> im talking about making my own manjaro
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[22:32:26] <jirido> ok I have a problem that one program reflash cant find libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 even it exists in /usr/lib.. how did you meen its related?
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[22:32:43] <benfitzpatrick> im just saying my issue hasnt been fixed either
[22:33:07] <jirido> ah OK. so its not the same issue
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[22:33:12] <benfitzpatrick> nope
[22:33:51] <jirido> Do you get any ideas about how to make my reflash program find the libgtk...
[22:34:14] <benfitzpatrick> hmm, try removing /usr/lib/libgtk and reinstall it
[22:34:26] <jirido> ok
[22:34:32] <benfitzpatrick> do rm -rf /usr/lib/libgtk* and run sudo pacman -S libgtk
[22:35:19] <rhg135> yay for breaking things potentially
[22:35:35] <benfitzpatrick> well rhg, can you help me?
[22:35:40] <rhg135> plus iirc libgtk isn't a package
[22:36:04] <benfitzpatrick> oh my bad
[22:36:08] <benfitzpatrick> i didnt know
[22:36:28] <rhg135> benfitzpatrick: you can run pacman -Qo $file to find out who owns it
[22:36:37] <benfitzpatrick> ohh i didnt realzie that
[22:36:45] <rhg135> then reinstall that with pacman
[22:36:56] <benfitzpatrick> got it
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[22:37:04] <benfitzpatrick> well, rhg, can you help fix my build error
[22:37:09] <rhg135> pacman might get confused if you just remove files
[22:37:22] <benfitzpatrick> goes to show how much i know Arch distros
[22:37:25] <rhg135> maybe, I usually suck with them
[22:38:07] <benfitzpatrick> well when i run buildiso -p xfce -b stable, it keeps saying "no space left on device" when it copies the boot-efi files into the ISO
[22:38:08] <rhg135> eh
[22:38:17] <benfitzpatrick> i built it over 10 times, same thing
[22:38:21] <rhg135> the streams got mixed up
[22:38:56] <rhg135> is the temp space it uses on a fs it likes?
[22:39:03] <benfitzpatrick> idk
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[22:39:34] <rhg135> I know for me on zfs it complained and I had to allocate an ext4 partition
[22:39:46] <benfitzpatrick> its on an ext4
[22:39:58] <rhg135> also, you might not have space on it
[22:40:07] <benfitzpatrick> i have 200gb free or so
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[22:40:45] <rhg135> it says in the man page where it stores these
[22:40:47] <benfitzpatrick> yeah i have over 300gb space on my drive
[22:40:57] <jirido> rhg135: pacman -Qo libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
[22:40:57] <jirido> error: failed to find 'libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0' in PATH: No such file or directory
[22:41:05] <rhg135> try removing that folder and rebuilding
[22:41:19] <jirido> even though it is in /usr/lib
[22:41:21] <rhg135> jirido: has to be the full path
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[22:41:38] <jirido> ok
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[22:43:07] <jirido> /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 is owned by gtk2 2.24.31-1 should i make a reinstall or remove and install?
[22:43:43] <benfitzpatrick> gonna try turning off UEFI in my bios brb
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[22:44:25] <rhg135> hmm, since gtk2 apps work I don't think it's that, jirido
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[22:44:47] <rhg135> what program is this?
[22:44:49] <jirido> Ok i did a gtk2 sync
[22:46:29] <jirido> It is a reflash rom revoked.. a android root unloock program for giving root on my htc desire.. It is a stand alone program that i run out of my local bin
[22:46:32] <rhg135> can you run ldd on it and paste it on a pastebin?
[22:46:59] <jirido> on the program?
[22:47:02] <rhg135> it is a linux app for x86_64?
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[22:47:29] <rhg135> if it is 32bit you'd need lib32-gtk1
[22:47:40] <rhg135> if it is 32bit you'd need lib32-gtk2*
[22:48:22] <jirido> ldd /home/hung/bin/reflash
[22:48:22] <jirido> not a dynamic executable
[22:48:31] <rhg135> hmm
[22:48:38] <jirido> how do i know?
[22:48:47] <rhg135> is that a script?
[22:48:49] <jirido> if it is 32 bit
[22:49:03] <rhg135> run file on it
[22:49:15] <rhg135> it'll decently id the file
[22:49:47] <jirido> It is 26mb an is not a script
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[22:50:28] <rhg135> that was weird
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[22:52:21] <jirido> ok reflash: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (GNU/Linux), statically linked, stripped
[22:52:46] <jirido> so do i need gtk2 32 bit yes..
[22:53:07] <jirido> what did you say the pkg name was?
[22:53:12] <rhg135> if it's static you don't need it? I think
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[22:53:43] <jirido> so what could i do to make it play?
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[22:53:49] <rhg135> lib32-gtk2 but I doubt that will work; you can try
[22:54:11] <rhg135> honestly I'm out of ideas
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[22:55:05] <jirido> should i put a copy of the lib in my bin folder?
[22:56:12] <rhg135> btw, the path for shared libraries is through LD_LIBRARY_PATH not PATH iirc
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[22:56:40] <rhg135> shouldn't have to
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<Botergos> [https://is.gd/lm73gz] ok so now i installed lib32-gtk2 and got some darn .. (reflash:15514): Gtk-WARNI - Pastebin.com
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[22:58:16] <jirido> what is Botergos doing?
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[22:58:49] <rhg135> Botergos is a bot to shorten links and parse the title
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[22:59:10] <jirido> sweet
[22:59:46] <jirido> what does this warnings and segfault meen?
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[23:00:04] <rhg135> that seems like a bug in the code
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[23:00:37] <jirido> whaat??
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[23:00:53] <rhg135> a segfault is usually from trying to access memory you aren't supposed to; aka a bug in the code
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[23:01:16] <jirido> should i run it as user maybe?
[23:01:22] <rhg135> and the warning are normal
[23:01:51] <rhg135> yes, never run apps as root unless you have a good reason
[23:02:34] <jirido> I tried when it did not work in user mode
[23:03:55] <rhg135> it might not flash but normally you set android usb devices to be user writable
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[23:04:01] <rhg135> atleast I do
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[23:06:10] <jirido> but to flash a rom and a bootimage i need to be root
[23:06:33] <jirido> and i cant get to a true root true adb
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[23:09:41] <jirido> B
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[23:12:28] <rhg135> you can use an udev rule such as the ones in the android-udev package in the aur
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[23:15:07] <jirido> ok what will that one do?
[23:15:49] <rhg135> it makes it so when you plug in an android phone you can write to it
[23:15:56] <jirido> can i just install that an it is set up or do i have to add it manually just
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[23:15:57] <rhg135> as an user
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[23:16:07] <jirido> ok
[23:16:18] <rhg135> yeah it's auto, just reconnect your phone
[23:16:53] <jirido> will installing android-udev take care of it?
[23:16:58] <jirido> yes ok
[23:17:14] <jirido> Yaourt here i come!!
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[23:44:03] <LissajousPattern> o/
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[23:50:18] <roch> \o
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[23:51:29] <LissajousPattern> hope all is well in #manjaro
[23:51:53] <roch> only angels today
[23:52:02] <LissajousPattern> nice
[23:52:57] <LissajousPattern> yeah i have been away for quite a while
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[23:53:51] <roch> I like it, that is an achievement
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[23:58:50] <LissajousPattern> yeah as i only tend to have problems with linux when i try to use it everyday