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[00:00:05] <NanoSector> mital_: that's false, Xorg takes all configuration files in that directory
[00:00:37] <batch> mital_ can you do: cat /etc/mkinitcpio.conf | grep nouveau
[00:00:46] <batch> if it returns nothing then it's ok
[00:01:00] <batch> just wondering
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[00:01:08] <NanoSector> batch: that would simply cause the nvidia kernel module to not be loaded
[00:01:16] <mital_> oh, I my aim is only video-nvidia, because with optimus I couldn't compile cuda code
[00:01:32] <NanoSector> mital_: you cannot do that
[00:01:52] <batch> NanoSector yes
[00:01:58] <mital_> NanoSector, what exactly I cannot do?
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[00:02:11] <NanoSector> mital_: i assume you want to have your nvidia card render everything
[00:02:19] <mital_> NanoSector, correct
[00:02:22] <NanoSector> there is a way, reverse prime, but that isn't supported with mhwd or really the official driver
[00:02:47] <NanoSector> CUDA shouldn't require the nvidia card to display anything though
[00:03:20] <NanoSector> (e.g. you can just have the Intel card display stuff and have the NVIDIA card sit next to it)
[00:03:26] <NanoSector> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GPGPU#CUDA
[00:03:27] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/AOEn20] GPGPU - ArchWiki
[00:03:31] <batch> mital_ have a lenovo?
[00:04:06] <mital_> I thought it is possible with mhwd to install only video-nvidia, because the official manjaro wiki says so: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAFGukpEIJw
[00:04:08] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/2ZLkie] How To Change Video Drivers Under Manjaro Linux - YouTube
[00:04:17] <mital_> batch, Dell
[00:04:28] <NanoSector> mital_: if your only GPU is an nvidia gpu, yes
[00:04:34] <NanoSector> optimus is more complicated
[00:04:52] <NanoSector> Optimus *requires* you to use your Intel GPU to display stuff to your laptop's screen
[00:05:03] <mital_> NanoSector, I don't want optimus
[00:05:10] <NanoSector> it's a hardware feature
[00:05:11] <mital_> Although it works right now
[00:05:29] <NanoSector> unless you can set your BIOS to only use NVIDIA (not common) you're stuck with optimus
[00:05:42] <Nytram> ^
[00:05:55] <batch> install acpi package and kernelheaders mital_ if you not have it yet
[00:05:56] <NanoSector> although Dell uses fairly extensive BIOSes so you might be lucky
[00:06:08] <NanoSector> batch: what are you going at
[00:06:20] <Nytram> ?
[00:06:27] <batch> i helped someone with same kinda problems some days ago
[00:06:36] <NanoSector> batch: this has nothing to do with acpi
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[00:06:56] <batch> ...
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[00:08:11] <NanoSector> batch: Xorg is not displaying stuff, how is that related to acpi (power management et al)
[00:08:45] <batch> it has powersave and performance mode depending on videocards
[00:08:51] <mital_> NanoSector, maybe he read the my post on forum?
[00:09:03] <batch> give it a try mital_
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[00:09:10] <mital_> batch, have you read the journalctl or xorg.log from my post?
[00:09:28] <NanoSector> still, how is this related to acpi
[00:09:28] <batch> yes mital_
[00:09:32] <batch> still reading
[00:09:41] <NanoSector> 10 bucks for batch if installing anything acpi related gets you anywhere
[00:09:54] <batch> sudo pacman -S acpi linux48-headers
[00:09:58] <mital_> NanoSector, okay guys, calm down:)
[00:10:12] <batch> NanoSector ok
[00:10:26] <batch> stop beeing so grumpy NanoSector
[00:10:33] <NanoSector> batch: i am always grumpy
[00:10:49] <batch> lol
[00:11:07] <NanoSector> mital_: btw those ACPI errors you are having also appear on my laptop, they do not cause any harm
[00:11:21] <mital_> NanoSector, I see, thx
[00:11:35] <NanoSector> and my card works fine, hence
[00:11:43] <mital_> okay, so you mean either I disable intel gpu from bios or Im stuck with optimus?
[00:12:40] <batch> i changed something in my bios yesterday and system got F'd up
[00:12:40] <mital_> NanoSector, okay, so you mean either I disable intel gpu from bios or Im stuck with optimus?
[00:12:56] <batch> installed linux headers and acpi and problem solved
[00:13:05] <batch> i'm deadserious
[00:13:21] <mital_> batch, you owe NanoSector 10 bucks
[00:13:23] <batch> but you can have also problems in the nvidia config file
[00:13:35] <NanoSector> mital_: your BIOS should have an option for only using the NVIDIA GPU, else you're stuck with optimus
[00:14:01] <batch> sure whatever
[00:14:04] <NanoSector> mital_: but CUDA should work regardless of Optimus as those apps should just probe available devices and use them
[00:14:22] <NanoSector> mital_: try to get Xorg working with this Optimus setup and see if you can get CUDA working this time
[00:14:44] <mital_> NanoSector, right now I'm running optimus setup, Xorg works fine
[00:15:15] <mital_> NanoSector, the problem is CUDA. Are you also using nvidia gpu?
[00:15:45] <NanoSector> are you running optimus with the nouveau driver or with bumblebee and proprietary?
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[00:15:55] <mital_> nope, optimus intel nvidia
[00:16:04] <NanoSector> hmm
[00:16:07] <mital_> 2nd one
[00:16:09] <NanoSector> I use nouveau personally
[00:16:33] <mital_> I also like nouveau, but I need opencv running with CUDA
[00:16:37] <NanoSector> yeah
[00:16:41] <mital_> and dlib also needs CUDA
[00:17:11] <mital_> have you ever tried cuda with optimus setup?
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[00:17:36] <NanoSector> mital_: is opencl-nvidia installed?
[00:17:53] <mital_> NanoSector, positive
[00:17:55] <NanoSector> I have never used CUDA as far as i'm aware
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[00:18:13] <NanoSector> mital_: cuda package as well?
[00:18:30] <mital_> yeah, however before installing this optimus setup
[00:18:50] <mital_> I installed cuda package week ago and optimus today
[00:19:01] <NanoSector> lemme see if i get anywhere
[00:19:49] <NanoSector> 2.5 GB of proprietary goodness
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[00:19:56] <mital_> NanoSector, you mean to run cuda on nouveau?
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[00:20:04] <NanoSector> nah going to install the nvidia driver for a quick test
[00:20:08] <mital_> NanoSector, yep... it is a pain
[00:20:21] <NanoSector> opencv you said?
[00:20:22] <mital_> NanoSector, would be great!
[00:21:00] <mital_> yep. While installing opencv from aur you can see cmake complaining or confirming about CUDA
[00:21:08] <mital_> you can tell whether it worked from there
[00:21:17] <NanoSector> it's in extra for me
[00:21:19] <NanoSector> but i'm on arch
[00:21:40] <mital_> opencv-cuda-git is the name of aur pacakge
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[00:22:02] <NanoSector> ah, i see
[00:23:03] <NanoSector> oh blender has cuda support
[00:23:07] <NanoSector> might be easier to try
[00:23:09] <NanoSector> brb
[00:23:28] <mital_> NanoSector, okay, me too, will be here in 3 minutes
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[00:28:59] <mital_> NanoSector, waiting for update
[00:29:16] <NanoSector> mital_: blender detects my GT750M just fine
[00:29:17] <NanoSector> without bumblebee
[00:29:52] <NanoSector> http://i.imgur.com/gupKgMj.png
[00:29:53] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/gJerk9] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
[00:30:08] <NanoSector> i can't get opencv-cuda-git to build
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[00:31:22] <mital_> NanoSector, okay, but does this necessarily mean that cuda will work?
[00:31:29] <NanoSector> Probably
[00:31:59] <mital_> okay, Im trying to find a shorter way to test cuda
[00:33:00] <mital_> NanoSector, and u r still on nouveau?
[00:33:15] <NanoSector> no I'm on proprietary nvidia
[00:33:21] <NanoSector> rendering seems to work
[00:33:27] <NanoSector> so I think it works?
[00:33:32] <NanoSector> I'm not into these kind of applications
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[00:36:03] <NanoSector> are you sure you're selecting the right GPU when using opencv?
[00:37:29] <mital_> NanoSector, I just tried to compile cuda sample
[00:37:29] <mital_> fatal error: cuda_runtime.h: No such file or directory
[00:37:29] <mital_> #include <cuda_runtime.h>
[00:38:02] <NanoSector> ah
[00:38:08] <NanoSector> /opt/cuda/include/cuda_runtime.h of the cuda package
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[00:38:49] <NanoSector> "The cuda package installs all components in the directory /opt/cuda. For compiling CUDA code, add /opt/cuda/include to your include path in the compiler instructions. For example this can be accomplished by adding -I/opt/cuda/include to the compiler flags/options"
[00:39:02] <NanoSector> try that
[00:39:37] <NanoSector> "To use nvcc, a gcc wrapper provided by NVIDIA, just add /opt/cuda/bin to your path."
[00:39:39] <nicklas_> anyone have experience working with intel laptop dualband/bluetooth card? i had bluetooth on this laptop, but the card didnt have duealband. so i changed to a dualband card but with no bluetooth. but i want bluetooth, so i bought an intel dualband/bluetooth card, which hasnt arrived yet
[00:39:58] <nicklas_> but i read something that there has been issues with it for some linux users
[00:40:03] <NanoSector> i've an intel 7260 AC in here
[00:40:08] <NanoSector> it works
[00:40:15] <nicklas_> i mean, intel shoudl be supported by the kernel?
[00:40:23] <NanoSector> yup
[00:40:26] <nicklas_> yeha, think thats the card i bought
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[00:40:27] <NanoSector> support is in the kernel
[00:40:28] <nicklas_> phew
[00:40:31] <nicklas_> cool
[00:40:35] <nicklas_> no worries then
[00:40:36] <mital_> NanoSector, okay, I got it compiled...
[00:40:36] <nicklas_> ty
[00:40:39] <NanoSector> mital_: nice
[00:41:00] <NanoSector> nicklas_: nah, don't worry. any wireless card except Broadcom is mostly fine
[00:41:07] <nicklas_> yeah
[00:41:10] <NanoSector> Broadcom often requires a proprietary driver
[00:41:20] <NanoSector> Realtek cards are shit in general though
[00:41:43] <nicklas_> i got some chinese regular cards a few years ago, when dualband was far from standard in laptops
[00:41:51] <NanoSector> :)
[00:42:06] <nicklas_> ive been reusing them for the newer laptops we have gotten
[00:42:12] <NanoSector> heh
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[00:42:27] <nicklas_> but now my wife got a pretty lowrange laptop, it had dualband
[00:42:29] <NanoSector> probably has some ralink chip on them
[00:42:36] <nicklas_> realtek, but still dualband
[00:42:42] <nicklas_> yep, i think so
[00:42:42] <NanoSector> ew
[00:42:50] <nicklas_> how can i check in xfce?
[00:42:59] * NanoSector plugs in his usb stick
[00:43:02] <nicklas_> there must be some command to check
[00:43:28] <NanoSector> lspci | grep Ralink
[00:43:40] <NanoSector> (lsusb | grep Ralink if it's a USB stick, like mine)
[00:43:52] <NanoSector> Bus 002 Device 006: ID 148f:3572 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT3572 Wireless Adapter
[00:44:08] <NanoSector> my laptop's antennas are broken so i often have to use this usb stick :x
[00:44:34] <nicklas_> hm, no result
[00:44:42] <NanoSector> then probably not a Ralink
[00:44:54] <NanoSector> try a generic lspci, see if you find other networking devices
[00:44:59] <nicklas_> did
[00:45:03] <NanoSector> lspci | grep Network
[00:45:25] <nicklas_> qualcomm
[00:45:35] <NanoSector> Atheros?
[00:45:40] <nicklas_> yup
[00:45:44] <NanoSector> those are pretty decent too
[00:45:46] <NanoSector> AR9285?
[00:46:26] <nicklas_> http://pastebin.com/QdrrqSZV
[00:46:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/sND3OB] [nicklas@nicklas-F751L ~]$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Broadwe - Pastebin.com
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[00:46:54] <NanoSector> close enough, probably an AR9285
[00:47:01] <NanoSector> those are very popular and cheap
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[00:48:01] <nicklas_> Intel Dual Band Wireless-AC 7260 HMC Rev.2 is the card i bought now
[00:48:17] <NanoSector> nice
[00:48:25] <NanoSector> 04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev bb)
[00:48:26] <nicklas_> hope it will work
[00:48:59] <nicklas_> i dont have the network for it, but nice to have a card with capabilities for higher speeds
[00:49:25] <NanoSector> my routers do go up to AC speeds, it's nice for copying local files
[00:49:35] <NanoSector> no use for my outside connection though
[00:50:04] <nicklas_> :-)
[00:51:16] <nicklas_> btw, we in manjaro who game, we should game together :-)
[00:51:42] <NanoSector> don't really play games, sorry :P
[00:51:58] <nicklas_> no problemo :-)
[00:52:09] <nicklas_> not on console either?
[00:52:19] <NanoSector> nope
[00:52:29] <nicklas_> oh :-P
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[00:58:46] <NanoSector> mital_: does everything work now?
[00:59:25] <mital_> NanoSector, thx for your help. I'm trying to compile my cpp code and opencv. CUDA samples worked fine
[00:59:43] <NanoSector> yay!
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[01:00:52] <mital_> NanoSector, yeah, you saved me hours, thanks again:)
[01:00:58] <NanoSector> np :)
[01:03:56] <NanoSector> oddly enough the nvidia kernel module causes my laptop to use a lot more power when on battery compared to nouveau
[01:04:03] <NanoSector> 13W vs 6W
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[01:08:25] <mital_> NanoSector, which tool are you using for this powertop?
[01:08:37] <NanoSector> mital_: yeah, powertop
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[01:08:53] <NanoSector> if you're on KDE, KInfoCenter has an energy tab
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[01:09:53] <rhg135> NanoSector: well nouveau can't access the higher clocks yet iirc
[01:10:08] <NanoSector> rhg135: sure, but when not using the card somehow nvidia keeps it active or something
[01:10:19] <mital_> Im on xfce. Btw, there is a tool called cuda-z, available from aur. This thing is great for testing cuda and getting stats
[01:10:20] <rhg135> yeah
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[01:14:50] <mital_> NanoSector, I'm updating the post on forum, is it okay if I refer to you there?
[01:15:15] <NanoSector> sure
[01:15:26] <mital_> cool:)
[01:15:33] <NanoSector> as long as i don't get threat letters i'm fine with it
[01:15:54] <NanoSector> and something in the kitchen just exploded by the sound of it
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[01:18:14] <mital_> NanoSector, I haven't updated the post yet, explosion in ur kitchen is not related to the post:)
[01:18:18] <NanoSector> lol
[01:18:41] <manjaro-web|9735> corel drow x6 install ?
[01:19:19] <NanoSector> manjaro-web|9735: um, yes?
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[01:19:29] <NanoSector> i'll go with yes on that one
[01:21:10] <manjaro-web|9735> I want to run corel drow x6 linux
[01:21:46] <mital_> NanoSector, sure, being positive should be good... most of the time:)
[01:22:26] <NanoSector> manjaro-web|9735: you'll have to try it in Wine
[01:22:28] <NanoSector> https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=26458
[01:22:30] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/z4pL4B] WineHQ - CorelDRAW X6
[01:22:34] <NanoSector> but it's rated garbage, so don't get your hopes high
[01:22:55] <manjaro-web|9735> Did not succeed
[01:23:04] <NanoSector> then it doesn't work, sorry
[01:24:35] <manjaro-web|9735> :(
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[01:28:03] <mital_> NanoSector, okay, thanks again and have a nice day/evening/night! got to watch cosmos now, btw, I would highly recommend it.
[01:28:21] <NanoSector> mital_: never heard of it, will check it out :) cya!
[01:29:07] <mital_> NanoSector, cosmos, carl sagan
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[01:43:40] <hedgie> so, I see a billion guides for installing photoshop on linux. is there an approach that is recommended here for doing so?
[01:44:07] <NanoSector> hedgie: just throw it in wine, i suppose
[01:44:39] <hedgie> once it finishes downloading, that's the first option. I'll see what happens and if I need to muck around with wine much
[01:45:11] <NanoSector> winehq usually lists procedures on getting hte software up on 'vanilla' wine
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[01:46:22] <hedgie> I guess I'll find out
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[01:53:03] <rhg135> arch's wine is pretty vanilla though
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[02:00:55] <NanoSector> rhg135: i mean vanilla as in not using playonlinux or crossover or something like that
[02:03:19] <hedgie> yeah. I installed playonlinux just to make life easier.
[02:06:17] <nicklas_> keep in mind, pol scripts are still user made
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[02:08:55] <rhg135> ah
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[02:12:00] <hedgie> I am aware. just keeping fingers crossed at the moment
[02:17:04] <nicklas_> what are you trying to install?
[02:17:55] <NanoSector> photoshop
[02:18:08] <nicklas_> ah
[02:18:19] <nicklas_> are there pol scripts for it?
[02:18:24] <NanoSector> no idea
[02:18:34] <nicklas_> you can check on pol wite
[02:18:36] <nicklas_> site
[02:19:38] <NanoSector> hedgie is trying to install it, not me :P
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[02:28:35] <nicklas_> ah
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[02:28:59] <NanoSector> took a while to process that statement :P
[02:29:22] * NanoSector heads off to bed
[02:29:37] <nicklas_> lol
[02:29:38] <nicklas_> gn
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[02:37:17] <hedgie> yeah. I'm using PoL now, following winehq directions
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[02:41:17] <nicklas_> hedgie: https://www.playonlinux.com/sv/supported_apps-6-0.html
[02:41:18] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/66mUAB] Skript - PlayOnLinux - Run your Windows applications on Linux easily!
[02:42:57] <hedgie> yeah. sadly no scripts for CC. worst case, do everything under windows and go from there
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[03:19:22] <Guest12676> octopi. cant install software. no admin rights. not allowed to run with sudo from terminal either. happened after removing KDE. any pointers?
[03:20:02] <Guest12676> tried gksu as well. no luck :(
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[04:40:18] <SkyeNymph> Hey guys, how do I get Slate Notifier on MATE?
[04:40:32] <SkyeNymph> Also what is the benefit to Brisk Menu over MATE's default menu
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[04:43:45] <Dearu> The brisk menu came from the Solus OS written by Ikey to replace the Mint Mate menu which was bloated with things that Solus did not need.
[04:44:26] <Dearu> It has the support from Ubuntu Mate aka Martin Wimpress
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[04:49:48] <nocomply> I am trying to run a script from a udev event. The script runs when called manually, the udev rule runs when just echoing some output to a file. However, both don't work when I try to set the udev rule to execute the script
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[04:53:06] <optics> http://askubuntu.com/posts/679600/revisions
[04:53:07] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jDh7Nc] Revisions to How to run a script when a specific flash-drive is mounted? - Ask Ubuntu
[04:56:56] <SkyeNymph> Dearu, It seems to me like ti just does everything Mate Menu does.
[04:57:05] <SkyeNymph> But without the keyboard shortcut
[04:57:36] <SkyeNymph> Anyway, What about Slate notifier
[04:58:12] <nocomply> optics: it's an hdmi cable being plugged in rather than a mount, is it still possible with that?
[04:58:42] <Dearu> About brisk there is a linux unplugged episode if you want to learn about it. I have no idea what slate is
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[07:31:40] <Vlado9A> Ravenmire: what do you mean by screen timeout?
[07:32:24] <Ravenmire> The time until I have to enter my password.
[07:32:49] <Vlado9A> into what?
[07:33:12] <Ravenmire> The display on the screen.
[07:33:46] <Ravenmire> If I go away from the computer, after a while I have to enter my password again.
[07:34:24] <Vlado9A> open Settings, and there is a Power management... take a look at there
[07:35:29] <Ravenmire> I'm so there!
[07:36:20] <Vlado9A> your computer is laptop or desktop pc?
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[07:36:59] <Ravenmire> Desktop. I live alone...I have no need for screen locking.
[07:37:19] <Vlado9A> okay... wait a bit, I need to check
[07:38:38] <Vlado9A> Power manager ... click system tab,
[07:39:07] <Vlado9A> sleep mode suspended ... and below move slider max left
[07:39:18] <Vlado9A> and then ...
[07:39:35] <Vlado9A> click Display tab
[07:39:59] <Ravenmire> In Power Manager I set "System" and "Display" to "Never" and "Security" to "60 minutes".
[07:40:21] <Vlado9A> just a sec ...
[07:41:01] <Vlado9A> in a Security tab, set lock screen to Never
[07:41:48] <Vlado9A> and uncheck Lock screen when system is going to sleep
[07:41:55] <Ravenmire> Not an option in my system. Only 60 minutes.
[07:42:46] <Vlado9A> please wait untill I make a screenshot
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[07:44:56] <Vlado9A> Ravenmire: http://vzugcic.net.amis.hr/images/display.png
[07:44:57] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/eowbqL] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
[07:46:41] <Vlado9A> Ravenmire: http://vzugcic.net.amis.hr/images/security.png
[07:46:42] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bwE3Ms] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
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[07:49:34] <Ravenmire> Vlado9A, I have the same settings, except for Security/Light Locker/. Somehow, I missed "Never". Thanks!
[07:50:32] <Vlado9A> the best is to put power management to off... see display.png again :)
[07:51:50] <Vlado9A> you're welcome Ravenmire
[07:52:24] <Vlado9A> I'm going to delete these images now...
[07:52:32] <Ravenmire> I agree.
[07:53:09] <Ravenmire> What is your screen color? It's nice.
[07:53:58] <Vlado9A> just a sec ...
[07:54:58] <Ravenmire> Kind of a bluish-gray.
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[07:56:19] <Vlado9A> it's Arc-Maia-Dark theme
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[07:56:46] <Vlado9A> but you would probably need to install it if you like ...
[07:59:55] <Ravenmire> I have Vertex Maia Dark.
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[08:03:23] <Ravenmire> ...W7J** here. 73s.
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[08:05:25] <Vlado9A> 73s to you to from ex 9A3** :)
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[08:08:09] <Ravenmire> Is this good enough for a QSL card?
[08:08:38] <Vlado9A> I'm not quite sure :)
[08:08:49] <Ravenmire> 😀
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[08:09:17] <Vlado9A> and I+m not radioactive any more, so it's not possible to make a QSO, sorry :)
[08:09:23] <Ravenmire> I've kept my ticket current but have not been active in years.
[08:10:14] <Ravenmire> Too little intellectual content.
[08:10:54] <Vlado9A> I'm going to be 57 years old this year and I was ham since I was 13, licenced since I was 18... and last year I said okay, that ways enough :)
[08:11:05] <Ravenmire> Vlado9A, How do I get the new them to display?
[08:11:11] <Vlado9A> *was enough
[08:11:16] <Ravenmire> I beat. I'm 74.
[08:11:27] <Vlado9A> :)
[08:11:33] <Vlado9A> just a sec ...
[08:11:47] <Vlado9A> there is a package manager in manjaro linux ...
[08:12:17] <Vlado9A> I don't know which one is default, but I have installed octopi
[08:12:18] <Ravenmire> My first call was K6AGW - Kissing 6 Absolutely Gorgeous Women.
[08:12:42] <Vlado9A> I was 9A3CY
[08:13:00] <Vlado9A> and whatever manager you have, you can install themes from there ...
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[08:13:12] <Vlado9A> arc-maia-dark is gtk theme ...
[08:13:29] <Vlado9A> let me check exactly... give me a minute pls
[08:13:35] <Vlado9A> pse :)
[08:13:42] * Ravenmire uses GTK.
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[08:17:03] <Vlado9A> sudo pacman -S arc-themes-maia
[08:17:21] <Vlado9A> and sudo pacman -S arc-gtk-theme
[08:18:04] <Vlado9A> I think this should contain arc-maia-dark as well
[08:18:57] <Vlado9A> arc-gtk-theme shoud do
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[08:49:52] <Vlado9A> *should :)
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[09:44:19] <ikbinu> hello
[09:45:02] <Vlado9A> hello to you too ikbinu
[09:46:17] <ikbinu> i installed manjaro kde yesterday, but i have a problem with applications that go fullscreen.
[09:47:08] <Vlado9A> how does your problem look like ikbinu ?
[09:47:12] <ikbinu> i can't get out of the fullscren or they crash after fullscreen
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[09:49:07] <Vlado9A> I don't have KDE, but can you say an example which program crashes?
[09:50:21] <ikbinu> mpv, baka-mplayer, dota2
[09:50:33] <ikbinu> so far everything except firefox
[09:52:08] <Vlado9A> I use mpv but it works as it should with no crashes, fullscreen or not
[09:52:29] <Vlado9A> maybe somebody with more KDE experience can help you
[09:52:40] <ikbinu> yes i hope so thanks anyway :D
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[09:53:01] <Vlado9A> you're welcome ikbinu, sorry I'm not able to help
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[09:55:27] <CountryfiedLinux> Hey I forgot I was on here.
[09:57:07] <Vlado9A> gm Count
[09:57:14] <Vlado9A> gm CountryfiedLinux
[09:57:17] <Vlado9A> :)
[10:00:02] <ikbinu> there was another problem i had. my games and music are on other partitions. so when i boot my computer and open a music player they can't find the files because the other partitions aren't mounted automaticly.
[10:02:29] <CountryfiedLinux> good morning :)
[10:02:56] <CountryfiedLinux> I don't bother moving music around. I just go onto Google Play Music in the web browser.
[10:03:02] <CountryfiedLinux> And on my phone.
[10:03:05] <CountryfiedLinux> Pandora too.
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[10:03:46] * Vlado9A is listening to Martin Solveig - Everybody ::: http://live.radio101.hr:7038
[10:03:52] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/3krrIV] (link was unresponsive: http://live.radio101.hr:7038)
[10:04:20] <Vlado9A> I don't keep music in my computer as well
[10:04:32] <CountryfiedLinux> Yeah no point really.
[10:05:05] <Vlado9A> only maybe from time to time for some testing purposes
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[10:33:52] <CountryfiedLinux> Whenever I try to boot up Manjaro from a USB stick I get a secure boot error message.
[10:34:04] <CountryfiedLinux> Or security boot or whatever.
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[10:47:13] <ikbinu> does this look right for mounting my partitions? http://pastebin.com/QrH0awAt
[10:47:14] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/vvhY8r] ergrgerg - Pastebin.com
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[11:06:52] <superbia> ikbinu: no
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[11:08:09] <ikbinu> superbia: what does not look right?
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[11:14:14] <superbia> ikbinu: tell me your hard drive configuration
[11:14:25] <superbia> ikbinu: do you have 3 separate internal HDD's?
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[11:18:02] <ikbinu> i have 2 small ssd and a tb hdd
[11:18:40] <ikbinu> 1 ssd for manjaro, 2nd is for my games i often play and hdd is for storage
[11:19:23] <superbia> ok. if it's internal HDD's
[11:19:32] <superbia> you can reboot, and see if everything is ok
[11:19:48] <superbia> if you are unable to boot, come here and il tell you how to fix the fstab
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[11:20:32] <superbia> the PROBLEM with mounting with fstab is that if your "games ssd" dies, you will be unable to boot
[11:20:41] <superbia> if one disk dies, you can't boot...
[11:20:58] <ikbinu> okay thx
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[11:24:55] <ikbinnu> okay it booted without problems
[11:25:38] <ringos> my setup is ssd: OS and Hdd my home :p
[11:25:41] <superbia> ok. just to mention this
[11:25:51] <ringos> hi superbia
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[11:26:02] <superbia> fstab is just for / and /home and everything you have on your main boot disk
[11:26:18] <superbia> if you have separate disks for like hentai or yaoi like ringos
[11:26:24] <ikbinnu> lol
[11:26:29] <superbia> there are better ways for automounting them then via fstab
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[11:27:42] <ikbinnu> what are the the other options. just a name is fine
[11:28:00] <superbia> !aw automounting
[11:28:00] <Botergos> I had no results for that query.
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[11:28:05] <superbia> !aw mounting
[11:28:06] <Botergos> Fuseiso - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fuseiso
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[11:29:13] <ringos> i got my home seporate on fstab :)
[11:29:14] <ikbinnu> okay thx
[11:29:26] <superbia> that !aw is not really what you want
[11:29:48] <ikbinnu> yeah it say something about isos :D
[11:29:54] * superbia is listening to unknown ::: Great Country Love Songs collection 2-vGazzMREDEI.mp3 ::: 04:03/81:26 @ 128kbps
[11:30:25] <superbia> ikbinnu: im polishing a crystal, il google it out for you when i finish current layer
[11:31:08] <ikbinnu> ok ty
[11:32:18] <ringos> !mw mounting
[11:32:18] <Botergos> Mounting ISO - https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php?title=Mounting+ISO
[11:32:23] <ringos> hemmm
[11:32:25] <ringos> lol
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[11:34:06] <superbia> ringos: you should leave the !aw, go back to yaoi
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[11:35:45] <ikbinnu> there is another problem i have with my kde installation. fullscreen application like dota, mpv or baka-mplayer seem too crash somethin in kde so i can only force close them or i have to reboot because i cant close them at all anymore
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[11:40:44] <CountryfiedLinux> Hey I get a security boot fail message or something like that when trying to boot Manjaro on a usb.
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[13:14:02] <BugzBunny> superbia: You love Hentai don't you?
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[13:18:02] <BugzBunny> superbia: You are the best person in the room.. everyone loves you ....
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[13:20:34] <BugzBunny> superbia: Say Hi? and Strit say hi
[13:22:25] <batch> what is the definition of a real-time kernel?
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[13:26:50] <BugzBunny> batch: I have no idea.. I only know about time splices ...
[13:27:10] <BugzBunny> That I am still trying to unerstand what it means..
[13:27:19] <BugzBunny> batch: Hey bud
[13:27:59] <batch> BugzBunny 0/ oh ok
[13:28:32] <batch> well i have it installed now, 4.8 rt
[13:29:47] <BugzBunny> batch: I was fuqing tired.. I didn't want to do the live stream and.. I was like fuck
[13:29:54] <batch> the 4.9 gave me some errors like: [ 1840.968575] ACPI Warning: \_SB_.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP._DSM: Argument #4 type mismatch - Found [Buffer], ACPI requires [Package] (20150930/nsarguments-95)
[13:29:54] <BugzBunny> You be mad.. oh well
[13:30:14] <BugzBunny> It's a Warning
[13:30:17] <batch> oooh i forgot it allready BugzBunny no problem
[13:30:36] <batch> BugzBunny well yes but it didn't let me boot to displaymanager
[13:30:59] <BugzBunny> You asking to help you figure out that bullshit?
[13:31:01] <BugzBunny> Welll
[13:31:12] <BugzBunny> I mean, that's not the problem I don't think
[13:31:39] <BugzBunny> To figure it out, you need information... so that mean disable splash and quiet from the kernel
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[13:32:29] <batch> yeah
[13:32:33] <batch> [ 0.437160] pci 0000:04:00.0: System wakeup disabled by ACPI
[13:32:39] <batch> yeah
[13:32:42] <BugzBunny> No
[13:33:03] <BugzBunny> At what part of Init it failed
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[13:33:17] <BugzBunny> Those errors is not cause for concerned as far I can see
[13:33:30] <batch> just after bootsplash
[13:33:31] <BugzBunny> I don't think it 's kernel problem
[13:33:44] <BugzBunny> I think it might systemd problem
[13:33:55] <BugzBunny> Or bad initrd
[13:34:06] <batch> yeah i googled alot
[13:34:09] <batch> bad bios
[13:34:13] <BugzBunny> No
[13:34:29] <BugzBunny> So you think its ACPI problem
[13:34:29] <batch> bad configuration for bumblebee
[13:34:31] <BugzBunny> If it is
[13:34:34] <BugzBunny> You can lie
[13:34:38] <BugzBunny> IIRC
[13:34:43] <batch> lie?
[13:34:51] <batch> i'm just trying to figure it out lol
[13:34:55] <batch> why would i lie
[13:34:55] <BugzBunny> osi_acpi=Windows
[13:34:59] <BugzBunny> I can't remember
[13:35:10] <BugzBunny> But you can lie to the BIOS
[13:35:11] <batch> oh right right i remember that too now
[13:35:18] <batch> :D
[13:35:23] <batch> let me check it out
[13:36:34] <BugzBunny> batch: This is a laptop?
[13:36:40] <batch> BugzBunny yes
[13:36:45] <BugzBunny> Ahhhh
[13:37:03] <BugzBunny> Man, you going to have problems
[13:37:12] <batch> please no :(
[13:37:13] <BugzBunny> I suggest you stick a kernel that works
[13:37:22] <batch> why is it?
[13:37:41] <BugzBunny> What company?
[13:37:45] <batch> because nvidia right
[13:37:48] <batch> asus
[13:37:52] <batch> n56vb
[13:37:53] <BugzBunny> k
[13:37:59] <BugzBunny> ASUS is good people
[13:38:49] <BugzBunny> I am fucking thinking, you can speak to ASUS.. your warranty is over I guess? But you can speak to them to fixed their BIOS
[13:39:01] <BugzBunny> If that's the problem
[13:39:28] <BugzBunny> But 4.9 is so early... I think.. I would expect problems
[13:39:40] <batch> yeah
[13:39:56] <BugzBunny> In fact, I have to wait till 4.11 for DAL for my video card
[13:39:58] <batch> i tought it was too early too to give 4.9 a try
[13:40:00] <BugzBunny> but year
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[13:40:42] <m4sk1n> When I started using 4.9, I have no problems with Linux
[13:40:59] <batch> i see yeah
[13:41:36] <batch> when i had 3.16 i was oke, then i tried 3.18 and 3.19 but alot of warnings came up on boot and i disliked it
[13:41:48] <batch> now 4.4 is so stable and i like it
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[13:42:14] <batch> been very long before i upgraded again from 3.16 to this one
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[13:43:40] <BugzBunny> To be honest, lying to BISO
[13:43:51] <BugzBunny> All the shit should be fixed by now
[13:43:53] <m4sk1n> I'm using testing repo on Arch Linux and the only problem was with 'harfbuxx' package
[13:44:35] <m4sk1n> So using latest kernel isn't something dangerous etc.
[13:45:26] <BugzBunny> Ofc it won't fuck up your hardware
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[13:45:43] <BugzBunny> But asking if it works...
[13:46:30] <BugzBunny> I have to wait, from what I read from Phronix, till 4.11 for DAL to be implemented for HDMI audio for RX 480
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[13:46:37] <BugzBunny> The thing is
[13:47:00] <BugzBunny> It's GCN 1.2... there is existing GCN 1.2 cards
[13:47:15] <BugzBunny> Now... Hey, why don't have HDMI Audio
[13:47:23] <batch> yeah
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[13:48:04] <BugzBunny> I spent two days to figure why I don't have HDMI audio
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[13:48:53] <BugzBunny> Kill pulseaudio, kill alsa, I mean I went through a bunch of troublshooting steps
[13:48:59] <BugzBunny> Only to find out
[13:49:07] <BugzBunny> It's not supported
[13:49:44] <BugzBunny> Like I said, Thankfully some on Arch has a AMD staging who back ported patches
[13:49:45] <batch> thats sad yeah
[13:49:59] <batch> oh nice
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[13:50:15] <BugzBunny> Yeah, I have that kernel
[13:50:25] <BugzBunny> And HDMI audio works
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[13:51:46] <BugzBunny> batch: Any, I don't understand ACPI will fail... but those errors don't seem to be a fail to me
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[13:51:59] <BugzBunny> Does the kernel mount the root partition
[13:52:05] <BugzBunny> Does it find the disk
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[13:52:30] <batch> how can i tell?
[13:52:34] <batch> is it an some log?
[13:52:35] <BugzBunny> Those errors is not from debuging boot problem s for years
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[13:53:04] <BugzBunny> Well, that's the problem
[13:53:26] <BugzBunny> Systemd does some shit I don't like
[13:54:12] <BugzBunny> AFAIK, remove quiet and splash and add verbose flags while you in Grub
[13:54:41] <BugzBunny> Sometimes it doesn't work... that last error is not why it failed
[13:55:13] <BugzBunny> Technically, it should drop you in a emergency system
[13:55:31] <BugzBunny> But when a systemd service fails
[13:55:54] <BugzBunny> That what I find is mostly the reason
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[13:56:24] <BugzBunny> Some services have a no limit... meaning they can hang forever
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[13:58:45] <batch> BugzBunny let me see how 4.8 give me, brb
[13:58:46] <BugzBunny> batch: You should be to add 3... that should disable some services and drop you to a terminal
[13:59:10] <batch> yeah i know the '3' trick, i will give it a try if 4.8 is more bad :p
[14:00:04] <eizua> Where can I find what programs/scripts/etc. are being loaded/run *after* I've logged in to the DE? Using XFCE on Manjaro 16.10.
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[14:04:13] <r0bis> could anyone help? I updated yesterday and I can't login to gnome shell (with journalctl -r I can see that gnome-shell keeps dumping core). if I log in on TTY, I can do startx and I get xfce interface. How could I troubleshoot this? My shell version is 3.22.2
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[14:08:18] <manjaro|71784> abilitare il trim ssd in modo corretto discard
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[14:09:38] <BugzBunny> r0bis: It sucks... If it's dumping core.. you need to revert
[14:10:04] <BugzBunny> And report the bug upstream
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[14:16:44] <Quetzalcoatl> hi guys! how difficult is to install a fresh copy of manjaro
[14:17:22] <Quetzalcoatl> by someone new to this distro
[14:18:19] <Vlado9A> Quetzalcoatl: Was this a question or expression?
[14:18:57] <Quetzalcoatl> was a question but i forgot to put the question mark. sorry
[14:19:44] <Vlado9A> I have manjaro installed in several computers, mostly xfce but I have cinnamon as well... and manjaro is my favourite linux distro!
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[14:20:22] <Vlado9A> And it means I have no problems with it.
[14:21:20] <Quetzalcoatl> vlado: i have manjaro with xfce installed in a VM and i must say that is absolutely a great distro
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[14:22:06] <Quetzalcoatl> i asked that question bcz i intend to install manjaro on a real machine
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[14:22:28] <Vlado9A> That's even better ;)
[14:22:53] <BugzBunny> I have open source software installed
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[14:23:10] <BugzBunny> ArchLinux or manjaro, does it really matter?
[14:23:52] <BugzBunny> Vlado9A: say he has it on installed on multiple machines
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[14:24:37] <BugzBunny> Personally, that will not some avenue I take but if Vlado9A have instaled mutiple machines.. he can be the most helpful person
[14:25:09] <Vlado9A> Peace with you BugzBunny :)
[14:25:58] <BugzBunny> Vlado9A: You have experience
[14:26:19] <BugzBunny> I will probably choose CentOS...
[14:27:25] <BugzBunny> batch: What you figured out so far?
[14:28:01] <batch> i figured out
[14:28:05] <batch> that it works now
[14:28:13] <BugzBunny> Please share!
[14:28:22] <batch> NanoSector told me to install linux49-nvidia too
[14:28:26] <batch> i'm so pleased
[14:28:31] <batch> 8)
[14:28:31] <BugzBunny> WTF
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[14:28:51] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: nouveau has suspend/resume issues for a lot of cards
[14:28:56] <BugzBunny> So NanoSector is fucking here and he didn't speak
[14:28:59] <NanoSector> lol
[14:29:01] <NanoSector> in #manjaro-nl
[14:29:46] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: he didn't have the nvidia modules for linux 4.9 so he was using nouveau on there
[14:30:27] <BugzBunny> What module?
[14:30:37] <BugzBunny> You mean use the ummm
[14:30:45] <BugzBunny> Close source drivers
[14:30:50] <NanoSector> ues
[14:30:51] <NanoSector> *yes
[14:31:25] <BugzBunny> Well... I could have learned it
[14:31:31] <BugzBunny> But you went in private
[14:31:40] <NanoSector> heh
[14:31:44] <NanoSector> he poked me in that channel
[14:31:47] <NanoSector> so i supported him there :P
[14:32:03] <NanoSector> these cases are why I recommend using -dkms modules so much
[14:32:06] <BugzBunny> Sweet doh
[14:32:08] <BugzBunny> Not mad
[14:32:15] <BugzBunny> Nah
[14:32:24] <NanoSector> no matter what kernel you install then, the modules will be built for all kernels instead of having per-kernel modules
[14:32:44] <BugzBunny> DKMS is good betteen major-minor
[14:32:51] <NanoSector> hm?
[14:33:09] <BugzBunny> If you got from 3.x to 4.x
[14:33:18] <BugzBunny> There is a fucking major difference
[14:33:27] <NanoSector> it may cause issues with newer kernels, yes, but it should work 90% of the time
[14:33:31] <BugzBunny> While Linux doesn't break userspace
[14:33:35] <BugzBunny> but DRIVERS
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[14:34:07] <BugzBunny> NanoSector: yeah, drivers
[14:34:43] <BugzBunny> Anhyway, batch I am glad you got it fixed.. but you you say what you froxed
[14:34:45] <BugzBunny> You stop
[14:34:58] <BugzBunny> THen didn't say shit but now it was you video drivers
[14:35:07] <BugzBunny> I mean dafuq
[14:35:18] <BugzBunny> I would not fucking idea
[14:35:27] <NanoSector> no need to get fired up
[14:35:29] <BugzBunny> If I didn't ask you batch
[14:35:35] <batch> acpi is used for the power right
[14:35:42] <batch> nvidia takes more power then intel
[14:35:46] <NanoSector> batch: yes, acpi is used for power management
[14:35:52] <NanoSector> batch: you don't have bbswitch installed for linux 4.0
[14:35:54] <NanoSector> *4.9
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[14:36:06] <batch> i had it in mind that it has something to doo with nvidia actualy but i didn't know what was a good fix
[14:36:08] <NanoSector> check if there's a linux49-bbswitch package
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[14:36:23] <batch> in lspci the rev was (ff)
[14:36:26] <batch> now it's a1
[14:36:40] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: suspend/resume issues are very common with nouveau, so that's why i pointed at it
[14:36:47] <BugzBunny> This is important information for people who are reading
[14:36:48] <batch> when i didn't have it installed it was 'ff' i mean
[14:36:58] <NanoSector> batch: nouveau might incorrectly read the revision
[14:37:08] <BugzBunny> They may see this, hey, perhaps you don't have the proper drivers
[14:37:24] <batch> yeah it's weird
[14:37:26] <BugzBunny> But unfortunately you guys discussed in private
[14:37:36] <BugzBunny> I can't read and help others
[14:37:37] <NanoSector> batch: anyway, check if there's linux49-bbswitch, should power your card down completely
[14:37:40] <BugzBunny> >.>
[14:38:03] <batch> yes i allready had that from the beginning NanoSector
[14:38:09] <batch> which is kinda weird
[14:38:11] <NanoSector> batch: also for linux49?
[14:38:15] <batch> yes
[14:38:15] <NanoSector> batch: because it's not in your dmesg
[14:38:29] <batch> i made sure by using the manjaro settings gui to upgrade the kernel
[14:38:42] <NanoSector> now make sure by using pacman from the command line
[14:38:47] <batch> it told me that it will use all the extra modules
[14:38:48] * NanoSector doesn't trust mhwd
[14:38:49] <batch> models
[14:38:54] <batch> modules
[14:38:56] <batch> yeah
[14:38:57] <batch> idk
[14:39:01] <NanoSector> batch: pacman -Ss bbswitch
[14:39:35] <batch> no way
[14:39:43] <NanoSector> ?
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[14:39:44] <BugzBunny> So for Manjaro, You need to have Linux49-Nvidia
[14:39:53] <batch> extra/linux49-bbswitch 0.8-1 (linux49-extramodules)
[14:39:54] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: he installed that, and it works now
[14:39:56] <batch> not installed
[14:40:00] <NanoSector> batch: see, install it
[14:40:03] <batch> :|
[14:40:11] <BugzBunny> batch: It works for you?
[14:40:18] <batch> the gui lied to me man?
[14:40:22] <NanoSector> batch: yes
[14:40:31] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: linux49-nvidia works for him and solved his suspend/resume issues
[14:40:37] <batch> oke..
[14:40:47] <BugzBunny> Okay, just for that specific issue
[14:40:47] <batch> it is working yes
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[14:41:01] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: but now he has more power usage than on 4.8 which is most likely caused by bbswitch not running, which is because he didn't install linux49-bbswitch
[14:41:04] <BugzBunny> batch: What type laptop do you have.. I remember you Say ASUS
[14:41:05] <batch> the problem was very visible when i rebooted the system after a full night
[14:41:13] <batch> n56vb BugzBunny
[14:41:16] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: ASUS N56VB
[14:41:19] <NanoSector> ninja'd
[14:41:23] <batch> :D
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[14:42:17] <BugzBunny> batch: https://www.asus.com/Notebooks/N56VB/
[14:42:20] <batch> oke so
[14:42:22] <BugzBunny> Not bad
[14:42:22] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/uR2U8t] N56VB | Notebooks | ASUS Global
[14:42:28] <BugzBunny> It looks good
[14:42:34] * BugzBunny checks the specs
[14:42:36] <NanoSector> ASUS's N series are pretty decent
[14:42:37] <batch> it's an older cpu but yeah
[14:42:39] <batch> i like it
[14:42:42] <batch> :p
[14:42:53] <BugzBunny> Right, it's Intel and Nvidia?
[14:42:58] <batch> yeah
[14:43:03] <BugzBunny> Blashphemy
[14:43:05] <NanoSector> lol
[14:43:09] <BugzBunny> I won't look it at it
[14:43:21] <batch> but ehm
[14:43:24] <batch> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ManjaroLinux "Fringilla" 16.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3230M CPU @ 2.60GHz (1,23GHz) • Memory: Physical: 15,2 GiB Total (14,4 GiB Free) Swap: 2,0 GiB Total (2,0 GiB Free) • Storage: 61,2 GB / 170,4 GB (109,2 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller @ Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor DRAM Controller • Uptime: 19m 52s
[14:43:30] * NanoSector looks at his Acer laptop with Optimus too
[14:43:31] <batch> i have i5 like you see
[14:43:35] <NanoSector> heh
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[14:43:40] <NanoSector> batch: did you install linux49-bbswitch?
[14:43:46] <batch> i did nano
[14:43:50] <batch> lol
[14:43:50] <NanoSector> batch: modprobe bbswitch
[14:44:17] <batch> oke now?
[14:44:25] <NanoSector> now it's loaded
[14:44:26] <NanoSector> check power usage
[14:44:50] <BugzBunny> How do you check power usuage with that?
[14:44:53] <NanoSector> sudo powertop
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[14:44:56] <NanoSector> with powertop
[14:45:01] <NanoSector> !apkg powertop
[14:45:01] <Botergos> powertop - A tool to diagnose issues with power consumption and power management -- version 2.8-2 - https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/powertop
[14:45:04] <BugzBunny> k
[14:45:57] <batch> k now what do i need to see lol
[14:46:06] <NanoSector> lower power usage
[14:46:24] <batch> i'd love that yes
[14:46:36] <NanoSector> but do you see it?
[14:47:13] <batch> idk what i need to look at
[14:47:25] <NanoSector> do you have the charger plugged in?
[14:47:35] <batch> no :p
[14:47:42] <NanoSector> then you should see a wattage listed at the top
[14:47:59] <NanoSector> (if you want it to refresh faster than 20 seconds, press s -> 1 -> enter
[14:48:04] <NanoSector> for a 1-second interval
[14:48:19] <batch> The battery reports a discharge rate of 19.8 W
[14:48:23] <batch> that ?
[14:48:34] <NanoSector> yeah
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[14:48:41] <batch> well ehm
[14:48:50] <NanoSector> 20W is quite a lot though
[14:48:53] <batch> if i notice that it will live longer now i will tell you
[14:49:08] <NanoSector> can you press Tab till you get to the Device stats tab?
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[14:49:38] <NanoSector> your GPU should be listed here, if it lists 0% power usage then it's ok
[14:50:09] <NanoSector> 0,0% PCI Device: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 750M]
[14:50:14] <batch> well
[14:50:16] <batch> https://bpaste.net/show/fdce3d1ea473
[14:50:16] <NanoSector> like that
[14:50:17] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/1wrzHc] show at bpaste
[14:50:38] <NanoSector> can you take a screenshot instead?
[14:50:47] <batch> the rest are all zeros
[14:50:50] <batch> yeah holdon
[14:50:57] <NanoSector> oh okay then it's powered down
[14:51:09] <NanoSector> do you have TLP installed?
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[14:51:28] <batch> http://i.imgur.com/7SakacG.png
[14:51:28] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/jZK4Lp] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
[14:51:34] <batch> NanoSector yes i have
[14:51:49] <NanoSector> can you scroll down with arrow keys and see if it is listed there?
[14:52:39] <Isaac> Hey, am I right to assume that the combination of uefi and MBR as seen in the screenshot here https://my.mixtape.moe/dbdapx.png is the reason that I can't see a "install alongside" option?
[14:52:40] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/V3Cvo4] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
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[14:53:00] <batch> 0,0% PCI Device: NVIDIA Corporation GK107M [GeForce GT 740M]
[14:53:11] <NanoSector> batch: yup it's down, enjoy your battery
[14:53:16] <batch> idk, i'll definitly more ok now :)
[14:53:21] <batch> thanks again man!
[14:53:25] <NanoSector> np :)
[14:53:39] <NanoSector> Isaac: hellos, if you have installed Windows/other OS in MBR mode you cannot install alongside, no
[14:53:49] <NanoSector> *alongside them in UEFI mode
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[14:54:13] <NanoSector> well you can, but it requires manual partitioning
[14:54:45] <Isaac> COuld I switch my windows 7 install to GPT?
[14:54:48] <superbia1> i love you BugzBunny
[14:55:08] <NanoSector> Isaac: GPT won't fix this, but Windows 7 doesn't really play nice with UEFI so I'd stay away from that
[14:55:12] <batch> i will reboot and check dmesg again
[14:55:59] <Isaac> Ah I see, bummer I had hoped to stay away from manually partition it
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[14:56:26] <NanoSector> batch: bbswitch should load automatically from now on
[14:56:42] <NanoSector> Isaac: sorry :(
[14:56:44] <batch> aah nice oke
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[14:56:57] <NanoSector> Isaac: other option would be to install Manjaro in MBR mode
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[14:57:20] <NanoSector> Isaac: usually your boot menu has two options for available boot devices, for instance Gigabyte lists both an option prefixed with "UEFI: " and one without it
[14:58:04] <Isaac> NanoSector: Ah yeah you are right, thought this was but some anomally
[14:58:17] <Isaac> any downsides to this?
[14:58:18] <NanoSector> nope :) one boots it in UEFI mode and the other in MBR mode
[14:58:30] <NanoSector> MBR has the downside that there can only be 1 installed bootloader
[14:58:42] <NanoSector> so if Windows ever decides to overwrite GRUB you will have to reinstall it
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[14:59:20] <Isaac> That sounds doable
[14:59:35] <NanoSector> up to you, this is the easiest method :)
[14:59:53] <NanoSector> the chances of windows overwriting your MBR are very slim, it only does this when upgrading to a new release I think
[15:00:03] <Isaac> Thank you, probably would have missed that MBR mode :)
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[15:00:19] <NanoSector> :)
[15:00:21] <NanoSector> no worries
[15:00:28] <Isaac> oh and before I forget
[15:00:37] <batch> /0/\0\/0/\0/
[15:00:41] <batch> party
[15:00:43] <NanoSector> batch: you sound happy
[15:00:44] <NanoSector> :P
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[15:00:51] <batch> oke now only hci0 warnings
[15:00:55] <batch> NanoSector i am :D
[15:00:58] <Isaac> what about encrypting the manjaro partition?
[15:01:10] <NanoSector> Isaac: I think the manjaro installer lets you setup encryption, but I'm not sure on that one
[15:01:29] <Isaac> I'll watch out for that one then
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[15:01:41] <Isaac> if not I could do it at a later date anyway can't I?
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[15:02:53] <NanoSector> Isaac: I think so, doing it manually is quite cumbersome though
[15:03:09] <NanoSector> Isaac: I'd really suggest checking out manual partition
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[15:03:37] <NanoSector> Isaac: it may sound intriguing but you only need 1 partition for Manjaro on MBR
[15:05:11] <batch> nano it uses only the inteldriver? can it be?
[15:05:30] <NanoSector> batch: hm?
[15:05:40] <batch> i did: inxi -G && optirun inxi -G
[15:05:44] <batch> try it NanoSector
[15:05:53] <NanoSector> batch: i'm on nouveau myself
[15:06:00] <batch> ah right right
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[15:06:06] <NanoSector> batch: lsmod | grep nvidia
[15:06:11] <NanoSector> does that return anything
[15:06:36] <batch> no :/
[15:06:50] <NanoSector> dmesg | grep -e nvidia -e bbswitch
[15:06:52] <NanoSector> ?
[15:07:17] <batch> this does yes
[15:07:23] <NanoSector> can you pastebin it?
[15:07:35] <batch> on it
[15:07:51] <batch> https://bpaste.net/show/b10ab4c3bdba
[15:07:53] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/YfORT7] show at bpaste
[15:08:21] <Isaac> NanoSector: You do suggest it? Simply for experiences sake or does it offer something?
[15:08:22] <adamali> hi, i was installing sumatrapdf with wine,then i realize, i got this ugly window behavior
[15:08:23] <adamali> http://imgh.us/Screenshot_2017-01-14_21-04-43.png
[15:08:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/7WiiVM] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
[15:08:29] <adamali> is this normal?
[15:08:37] <NanoSector> batch: bbswitch unloads the nvidia module when disabling your card, so that's normal
[15:08:38] <adamali> i am using xfce
[15:08:47] <NanoSector> batch: try 'optirun glxinfo | grep nvidia'
[15:09:05] <NanoSector> Isaac: both, really. I think the advanced partitioning screen offers LUKS encryption
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[15:10:24] <NanoSector> Isaac: it's quite simple, actually. Resize the Windows partition to free up the amount of space you want to use for Manjaro and create a single partition there
[15:10:36] <batch> does nothing NanoSector
[15:10:49] <NanoSector> batch: 'optirun glxinfo | grep -e NVIDIA' then?
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[15:11:09] <NanoSector> batch: actually do 'optirun glxinfo | grep -e NVIDIA -e nvidia -e mesa'
[15:11:24] <NanoSector> then tell me if it says something about nvidia or mesa
[15:11:36] <batch> oh capital nvidia worked
[15:11:39] <Isaac> NanoSector: I have been meaning to get dual boot some time so I do have enough space on the disc already. Just one partition?
[15:11:45] <NanoSector> batch: ah, nice, then it's working
[15:12:12] <NanoSector> Isaac: oh that's nice, yeah 1 partition is enough for MBR mode. if my memory serves me right there's a list of partitions which are required at the bottom, should just list "Root /"
[15:12:27] <adamali> lol nvm, winecfg > untick "allow window manager to decorate the windows" solve it
[15:12:51] <NanoSector> adamali: looks like wine isn't handling it 100% correctly
[15:13:10] <NanoSector> adamali: nice desktop btw
[15:13:13] <NanoSector> i like it
[15:14:03] <adamali> well ty
[15:14:14] <NanoSector> adamali: also, why are you trying to run a PDF viewer in Wine? there's plenty of native options
[15:14:19] <adamali> yeah never install apps with wine,only games
[15:14:37] <adamali> yeah i am considering zathura
[15:15:23] <NanoSector> adamali: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications#Graphical_13
[15:15:24] <adamali> but its keyboard operation only,its the closest one to sumatra since both of them using muPDF engine
[15:15:24] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/JOhTch] List of applications - ArchWiki
[15:16:34] <NanoSector> Isaac: did it work>
[15:16:36] <NanoSector> ?
[15:16:39] <adamali> once u go mu,its hard to go back
[15:16:43] <Isaac> NanoSector: Alright I'll give that a shot then though I assume I will then manually need to update grub after installation to find my windows install?
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[15:17:31] <NanoSector> Isaac: I think GRUB detects other OSes when it is being installed so that should not be necessary, but you can always run 'sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg' after installation in a terminal to probe for other OSes (might want to note that command down)
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[15:18:02] <NanoSector> adamali: heh, I personally use Okular which works for me
[15:19:13] <adamali> good for u :), should stick to that
[15:20:17] * NanoSector loves Qt apps
[15:20:36] <adamali> this mu engine is like nicotine,i cant go back, but i am just mouse-clicker-scrub, cant fully use keyboard yet,maybe its time to learn and man up
[15:21:05] <NanoSector> I can't stand keyboard-based apps either
[15:21:13] <NanoSector> except a terminal maybe
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[15:24:24] <adamali> currently i have qpdfview installed,but poppler still not a match for mu , maybe just me,but when scrolling its loading a bit
[15:24:37] <NanoSector> :(
[15:24:53] <NanoSector> maybe mu preloads the entire document where poppler doesn't
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[15:24:59] <NanoSector> i don't work with large PDFs that much
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[15:26:06] <NanoSector> oh, nice. truck drove into our street and is now blocking everyone's driveway
[15:26:26] <NanoSector> not just 1 person's driveway, no, everyone's
[15:27:08] <NanoSector> (says the 17-year-old with a driver license who can't park :P)
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[15:34:06] <adamali> what time is it there?
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[15:34:58] <NanoSector> 15:34
[15:35:04] <NanoSector> and over there?
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[15:46:30] <adamali> 21:46
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[16:03:59] <BugzBunny> batch: You still alive.. like you still have a life?
[16:04:25] <batch> BugzBunny i'm here
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[16:04:33] <batch> what r you doin BugzBunny
[16:04:35] <BugzBunny> NanoSector: I guess .. over there is there is a different planet
[16:04:42] <BugzBunny> batch: I just came back
[16:04:49] <NanoSector> BugzBunny: huh
[16:04:56] <NanoSector> oh
[16:04:56] <BugzBunny> I took a train ride to a store
[16:04:57] <NanoSector> heh
[16:05:22] <BugzBunny> I brought something
[16:05:26] <BugzBunny> I just got back home
[16:05:30] <BugzBunny> My heater is on
[16:05:39] <BugzBunny> I need to turn it off
[16:05:54] <BugzBunny> I hate my thermostat man
[16:05:56] <BugzBunny> It's like
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[16:06:25] <BugzBunny> 70F is alright
[16:06:40] <BugzBunny> But I don't need my heater turn ever few hours
[16:06:53] <BugzBunny> To maintain 70F
[16:07:26] <BugzBunny> I like 70F but I want to see the heater turn on at 65F
[16:07:32] <BugzBunny> maybe 6-F
[16:07:38] <BugzBunny> maybe 60F
[16:08:10] <BugzBunny> But turn on so frequent to main 70F makes it feel like I live in desert
[16:09:44] <BugzBunny> natural gas folks
[16:10:04] <BugzBunny> I wish I can make a curve
[16:10:32] <BugzBunny> If it drops below 60F
[16:10:37] <BugzBunny> turn the heater on
[16:10:53] <BugzBunny> batch: NanoSector what you think?
[16:11:50] <batch> BugzBunny what i think is
[16:11:56] <batch> whe don't use F
[16:12:01] <batch> we*
[16:12:54] <BugzBunny> pfffff
[16:13:03] <BugzBunny> What is 60F in C?
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[16:13:47] <testnickname123> 7
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[16:14:55] <BugzBunny> 7C?
[16:14:59] <BugzBunny> wow
[16:15:47] <testnickname123> no 15.5
[16:15:57] <testnickname123> use google
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[16:17:25] <BugzBunny> :-p
[16:18:26] <BugzBunny> my CPU idle is at 20C
[16:18:36] <BugzBunny> my GPU
[16:18:39] <BugzBunny> IDLE
[16:18:47] <BugzBunny> is a 45C
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[16:34:16] <BugzBunny> batch: I did some live stream test
[16:34:29] <BugzBunny> I mean it works but flickers
[16:34:32] <BugzBunny> But
[16:34:38] <BugzBunny> I want to deliver
[16:38:36] <BugzBunny> batch: !
[16:40:13] <batch> :p
[16:40:42] <BugzBunny> I will do some fallout 4 bro
[16:40:53] <batch> ooh gimme the link
[16:41:01] <BugzBunny> Fuck yes
[16:41:17] <BugzBunny> But the I did test tream and I been complaining to AMD
[16:41:27] <BugzBunny> It's not going to be great
[16:41:40] <BugzBunny> Not even good enough
[16:41:48] <BugzBunny> It's will be alright
[16:42:25] <BugzBunny> For me, I get 60 1080p
[16:42:30] <BugzBunny> looks fantastic
[16:42:38] <BugzBunny> But what you watch
[16:42:47] <BugzBunny> It's going to look like fucking shit
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[16:52:16] <batch> ke BugzBunny np
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[16:55:11] <BugzBunny> batch: I need a new BRB image
[16:55:16] <BugzBunny> You got something?
[16:55:27] <BugzBunny> I deleted stuff
[16:56:08] <batch> a brb image?
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[16:56:55] <BugzBunny> Yeah for OBS, I deleted the image that I had
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[16:57:19] <batch> BugzBunny https://giphy.com/gifs/booty-swiggity-swooty-mfFUNniT3OoN2
[16:57:20] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/fgolnL] Booty GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY
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[16:58:12] <NanoSector> lol
[16:58:22] <BugzBunny> lol
[16:58:26] <BugzBunny> that is so funny
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[16:59:51] <batch> https://giphy.com/gifs/jim-carrey-mamrie-hart-the-mask-fRMjhlutjykSs
[16:59:52] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/yGbObc] Jim Carrey GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY
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[17:00:31] <BugzBunny> I actually find the pic I had before, I saved in Pictures folder lol
[17:00:34] <BugzBunny> but mer
[17:01:22] <batch> what pic is it BugzBunny
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[17:01:35] <batch> i didn't seen ever :p
[17:01:39] <BugzBunny> I am going to use the pic you gave me batch
[17:01:45] <BugzBunny> Now, I need a stay tune pic
[17:01:50] <BugzBunny> You got something?
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[17:06:25] <batch> BugzBunny lol https://giphy.com/gifs/south-park-cartman-uQHtUvva9Qljy
[17:06:26] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ypesde] South Park GIF - Find & Share on GIPHY
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[17:14:11] <BugzBunny> batch: NanoSector https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvFLZ_6lZss&feature=youtu.be
[17:14:13] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/bKLS3n] [Live Stream] Let's Play Fallout 4 Episode 4 (Commentary) 1080p 60FPS - YouTube
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[17:15:06] <Dippy> Hello Community, I have an issue with key binding and firefox - I have set a key bind "CTRL+SHIFT" to change the keyboard layout and this interfere with calling the developer tools within firefox (it changes the keyboard layout and within firefox the keys detected are "CTRL+I"
[17:15:22] <Dippy> any idea how to fix this?
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[17:15:53] <Dippy> I currently have set a different keyboard layout
[17:16:13] <Dippy> and key binding, which resolves the issue
[17:16:28] <Dippy> but I am used to this key combination
[17:16:39] <batch> awh nice BugzBunny :D
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[17:17:17] <BugzBunny> :)
[17:17:53] <BugzBunny> Dippy: I don't how you can chat the short cuts for Firefox
[17:18:05] <BugzBunny> I suggest avoid that combination
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[17:19:09] <BugzBunny> batch: I need to load some programs to monitor my CPU and GPU
[17:19:47] <BugzBunny> Uhhh, you going to speak with om the chat on youtube?
[17:20:18] <BugzBunny> let me get my phone
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[17:26:07] <BugzBunny> batch: I will have this on my second screen and my phone but I can promise that I am watching
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[17:31:05] <batch> i'm off to eat BugzBunny hmm sorry i cannot watch now, maybe later!
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[17:37:53] <Dippy> BugzBunny: Thanks mate :)
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[17:45:46] <adityap> can I schedule torrents in qbittorrent for specific time duration?
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[18:05:25] <paczes> Hi Everyone, I'm new to Manjaro (just installed it today), although a know some linux based on my previous knowledge of Mint and Ubuntu. The issue I have is - my trackpad doesn't work for "click" functionalities, only scrolling works. Can you help me with that?
[18:06:49] <badbodh> paczes, search for "touchpad enable tap" in the forum
[18:07:07] <badbodh> libinput needs a custom xorg conf for tapping to work
[18:07:34] <badbodh> here's mine if it helps
[18:07:57] <badbodh> Section "InputClass"
[18:07:58] <badbodh> Identifier "Mouse"
[18:07:58] <badbodh> MatchIsPointer "on"
[18:07:58] <badbodh> MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
[18:07:58] <badbodh> Driver "libinput"
[18:07:58] <badbodh> Option "AccelSpeed" "-1"
[18:08:00] <badbodh> EndSection
[18:08:02] <badbodh> Section "InputClass"
[18:08:04] <badbodh> Identifier "AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint"
[18:08:06] <badbodh> MatchIsTouchpad "on"
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[18:08:08] <badbodh> MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
[18:08:10] <badbodh> Driver "libinput"
[18:08:12] <badbodh> Option "Tapping" "on"
[18:08:14] <badbodh> Option "AccelSpeed" "-1"
[18:08:16] <badbodh> Option "SendEventsMode" "disabled-on-external-mouse"
[18:08:18] <badbodh> Option "DisableWhileTyping" "on"
[18:08:20] <badbodh> Option "TappingDrag" "on"
[18:08:22] <badbodh> Option "TappingDragLock" "on"
[18:08:24] <badbodh> EndSection
[18:08:28] <badbodh> darnit!
[18:08:30] <badbodh> Your paste can be seen here: https://gist.github.com/79b4230f1e1787393f3fc74877b62b75
[18:08:33] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/W9jBlt] stdin · GitHub
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[18:13:00] <BugzBunny> I can't fucking switch scenes on OBS like I want to
[18:13:07] <BugzBunny> I am trying to figure out why
[18:13:57] <BugzBunny> ahhh
[18:14:07] <BugzBunny> I need to have a longer press
[18:14:34] <BugzBunny> I need to buy a new keyboard
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[18:15:32] <BugzBunny> The keys is being sticky
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[18:19:21] <badbodh> buy a new roll of tissue paper instead
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[18:19:40] <badbodh> or just put the videos on a playlist
[18:19:59] <badbodh> your keyboards don;t deserve that kind of treatment :/
[18:21:25] <paczes> @badbodh Thanks!
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[18:30:03] <drrgrr> Hey guys! Hows the new year going?
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[18:30:48] <superbia> drrgrr: hi
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[18:33:12] <Manj-1611-Lxqt2> My network connection icon is still giving me a bit of a headache
[18:34:07] <Manj-1611-Lxqt2> Whenever I have put down the lid of this laptop it will stay on the "disconnected" icon until reboot. It does reconnect automaticly so internet still works, but it wont show any available networks or anything
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[18:35:29] * superbia is listening to unknown ::: Brad Paisley - Beat This Summer (acoustic version)-0JcKgUw_ZKQ.mp3 ::: 00:06/03:37 @ 128kbps
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[18:42:11] <w1k1> hey i just installed manjaro-16.10.1 , it has linux version 4.4 ....then i installed linux 49 ...it goes smoothly too...but whenever i do "uname -a" , it shows llinux 4.4 stilllll
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[18:52:40] <paczes> @badbodh could you please share your 40-libinput.conf please?
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[18:58:10] <pacm4nd3> hey i am not able to update my system.... when i do " sudo pacman -Syu" it shows " replace fuse with .... "and many more replaces and then when i do yes it doesnt work it says " failed to prepare transaction( could no;t find database)"
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[19:00:12] <badbodh> paczes, eh ? what's that never heard of it
[19:00:17] <badbodh> i write my own darn conf
[19:00:29] <badbodh> and mine's named 95-mouse.conf :)
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[19:01:12] <badbodh> pacm4nd3, we will be needing the entire output starting from command prompt to blank prompt.
[19:01:14] <paczes> oh, sorry, you pasted your conf earlier, can you send me the link again please ?
[19:01:17] <badbodh> on pastebin
[19:01:30] <badbodh> Your paste can be seen here: https://gist.github.com/dc771aee1fafe436c21c8e3b7140e51c
[19:01:32] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/0SpvcQ] stdin · GitHub
[19:01:34] <badbodh> ^ that
[19:01:51] <paczes> Thank you
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[19:03:55] <pacm4nd3> badbodh: hey ...its working now ...thanx btw
[19:05:00] <badbodh> could no;t find database <---- usually -Sy should fix that. change mirror if needed
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[19:10:42] <pacm4nd3> hey ...can we change the default green colour of manjaro ??
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[19:17:28] <paczes> @badbodh, can I trouble you for some more help with the touchpad... ? Does this look ok:
[19:17:30] <paczes> Section "InputClass"
[19:17:30] <paczes> Identifier "libinput touchpad catchall"
[19:17:30] <paczes> MatchIsTouchpad "on"
[19:17:30] <paczes> MatchDevicePath "/dev/input/event*"
[19:17:30] <paczes> Driver "libinput"
[19:17:31] <paczes> Option "Tapping" "on"
[19:17:33] <paczes> EndSection
[19:17:52] <paczes> should that work?
[19:18:22] <badbodh> yep
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[19:42:54] <paczes> Hi again, I have problems with installing the Spotify. I found out what to do: https://forum.manjaro.org/t/how-to-install-spotify-description-in-wiki-not-working/12716/16 ; but I don't know how to do it. Can you please share the exact input in terminal when editing the build of Spotify?
[19:42:55] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/wPUe04] How to install Spotify (description in Wiki not working)? - Newbie Corner - Manjaro
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[19:43:37] <paczes> Cou
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[19:46:24] <roch> I use spotify-legacy from aur
[19:46:36] <roch> spotify gave me FC after login\
[19:46:53] <roch> plays music just alright
[19:47:45] <paczes> thanks, will try that out and let you know when having problems
[19:48:02] <roch> I don't like problems ;)))
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[19:48:18] <roch> paczes, ok, I want to hear ;)
[19:48:38] <paczes> @roch I don't like either
[19:49:01] <roch> http://i.imgur.com/2Ubf6W5.png
[19:49:02] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/0Rjcwl] (not a web page, content type: image/jpeg)
[19:49:47] <roch> I have gpt img file that I can mount or set to loopback ok, how can I boot VB with something like this ? :>
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[19:55:29] <BugzBunny> gpt img file
[19:56:16] <BugzBunny> Like GPT partition talble img?
[19:57:23] <BugzBunny> I don't now how you can mount GPT img file unless you are talking about different term.. like GPT (EXT4) or (ISO)?
[19:57:26] <roch> yea, it's puupy flavour, to be put on usb directly, no iso
[19:57:46] <roch> file sys on it is ext2, I got it mounted
[19:57:51] <roch> I can read FS
[19:57:59] <roch> I want to boot VB with it
[19:58:11] <roch> just exploring new possibilities
[19:58:30] <BugzBunny> I am fucking confused lol.. boot VB with it?
[19:58:42] <roch> virtualbox
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[19:59:05] <roch> I am not sure what correct acronym for VirtualBox is :D
[19:59:31] <BugzBunny> I am re-reading what you saying
[19:59:43] <BugzBunny> Perhaps there is a language barrier lol
[19:59:47] <roch> ha :)
[19:59:59] <roch> I am sure of it
[20:00:00] <BugzBunny> Oh
[20:00:05] <BugzBunny> Let me read back
[20:00:11] <BugzBunny> I just got here
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[20:01:09] <roch> BugzBunny, http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/slaq-8.1.6/slaq-8.1.6-amd64-8gb.img.gz
[20:01:15] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/GNNEkG] (link was unresponsive: http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/slaq-8.1.6/slaq-8.1.6-amd64-8gb.img.gz)
[20:01:52] <BugzBunny> You want boot that image in VB which has EXT2 on it?
[20:02:01] <roch> yes
[20:02:21] <roch> virtualbox refuses to load this img directly
[20:02:22] <BugzBunny> You engrish is bad
[20:02:25] <roch> :C
[20:02:35] <roch> I know
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[20:02:53] <BugzBunny> file *.img, is it ISO?
[20:03:05] <IPXSam> Hello, how do I ask pacman to tell me about a package I have installed (or ask if X is installed)?
[20:03:15] <roch> no, it is disk dumped with GPT structure
[20:03:17] <BugzBunny> If not, I can't think right now
[20:03:22] <BugzBunny> Oo
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[20:03:36] <BugzBunny> Then you can add it as SATA/IDE disk
[20:03:36] <roch> U need gdisk package to see correct offset
[20:03:42] <IPXSam> Does pacman -Q do the job?
[20:03:59] <roch> IPXSam, yes
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[20:04:17] <BugzBunny> I think VB accept raw formats.... AFAIK that's what *.img is
[20:04:26] <roch> not GPT :D
[20:04:27] <Kunda_> how do i open a bug on the community packages bugtracker ?
[20:04:35] <Kunda_> s/bug/ticket/
[20:05:02] <BugzBunny> roch: No, VB BIOS understands GPT but it might now be able to boot it
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[20:05:28] <BugzBunny> GPT needs a few things and that depends on the settings on VB
[20:05:32] <roch> yes, that's exactly what I want, TY for looking into it
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[20:05:56] <BugzBunny> Yeah, regular settings uses BIOS Legacy, just like a PC
[20:06:23] <BugzBunny> With GPT, with BIOS Legacy, it's a bit complicated
[20:07:02] <BugzBunny> AFAIK, you need 1MB of impty space for a bootload for BIOS Legacy... At least for Grub
[20:07:13] <BugzBunny> I don't know how Windows Bootloader handles it
[20:08:08] <BugzBunny> GPT doesn't support a Bootsector AFAIK.. there is a MBR protected space
[20:08:51] <BugzBunny> But AFAIK, GPT doesn't support Bootsector.. AFAIK, You need EFI to boot of a GPT disk.. vanilla
[20:09:49] <BugzBunny> Otherwise you need to do special things for the BIOS/VB to recongnize the bootloader
[20:09:59] <BugzBunny> on a GPT partition table system
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[20:11:29] <roch> BugzBunny, I follow what U saying, checking virtualbox capabilities now
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[20:17:02] <roch> I try with this https://github.com/vasi/vmdk-raw-parts
[20:17:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ln0cxi] GitHub - vasi/vmdk-raw-parts: Create virtual disks which expose partitions of physical disks
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[20:17:13] <Laki> hello
[20:17:30] <Laki> I have a libinput vs synaptics issue
[20:17:38] <BugzBunny> how big is the image roch
[20:17:45] <BugzBunny> 1Gb
[20:17:53] <BugzBunny> let me downlaod and try to boot it here
[20:17:54] <Laki> not sure what I'm doing wrong but I can't go back to the synaptics driver
[20:18:37] <roch> BugzBunny, packed 397mB, unpacked ~7gB
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[20:19:15] <BugzBunny> 7GB?
[20:19:27] <BugzBunny> Man, I don't have enough space
[20:19:31] <BugzBunny> let me check
[20:19:36] <Laki> deleted 40-libinput.conf from my xorg.conf.d and threw back in 70-synaptics.conf from my pre-update backup, but the driver being loaded is still libinput.. wtf?
[20:20:06] <Laki> and synclient only displays "Couldn't find synaptics properties. No synaptics driver loaded?"
[20:20:14] <BugzBunny> roch: I have 8GB free
[20:20:33] <BugzBunny> I have a disk I name Spare room
[20:20:44] <BugzBunny> That 17GB free
[20:21:14] <roch> 6.91G unpacked -)
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[20:22:50] <BugzBunny> Laki: What Xorg picks up
[20:23:05] <BugzBunny> Laki: What does the logs say
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[20:23:24] <BugzBunny> /var/log/Xorg.0.log
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[20:23:49] <Laki> one sec
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[20:24:45] <Laki> okay here seems to be the problem
[20:24:47] <Laki> [ 25840.683] (EE) synaptics: module ABI major version (21) doesn't match the server's version (24)
[20:24:47] <Laki> [ 25840.683] (II) UnloadModule: "synaptics"
[20:24:47] <Laki> [ 25840.683] (II) Unloading synaptics
[20:24:47] <Laki> [ 25840.683] (EE) Failed to load module "synaptics" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
[20:24:47] <Laki> [ 25840.683] (EE) No input driver matching `synaptics'
[20:24:49] <Laki> [ 25840.683] (II) Falling back to input driver `libinput'
[20:25:48] <Laki> this driver version is a bit older since I tried rolling back but the newer xf86-input-synaptic (1.9.0-1) does the same
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[20:26:42] <BugzBunny> roch: http://picpaste.com/pics/disk_space-dkE5YDOQ.1484421985.png
[20:26:44] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/7Lv4BL] (not a web page, content type: image/png)
[20:27:24] <BugzBunny> roch: See, I don't have much space anywhere lol
[20:28:07] <BugzBunny> Laki: You need remove xf86-blah
[20:28:48] <Laki> libinput?
[20:28:55] <BugzBunny> Oh, nevermind
[20:29:09] <Laki> BugzBunny: I tried that and it wouldn't recognize the touchpad at all
[20:29:18] <Laki> curiously enough my trackpoint still worked
[20:29:25] <BugzBunny> Yeah, I got confused
[20:29:35] <BugzBunny> That error you goint to figure out on you own
[20:30:00] <BugzBunny> If you install packages not from AUR and from the REPO
[20:30:07] <BugzBunny> You souldn't get that error
[20:30:21] <Laki> but I have libinput and synaptics from the repo!
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[20:30:28] <roch> BugzBunny, M$ ivaded Your desktop! oh noes! :>
[20:30:30] <Laki> there are two packages, libinput and xf86-input-libinput, what is the difference?
[20:30:38] <BugzBunny> That error is not because of libimput
[20:31:14] <Laki> it only started with the latest xorg-server update IIRC
[20:31:37] <BugzBunny> That could intrude the problem
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[20:31:59] <BugzBunny> But... I don't know what it is.. you can wait for some who may know
[20:32:05] <BugzBunny> I am not a regular here
[20:33:18] <Laki> ok thanks anyway
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[20:33:52] <Laki> gonna try one more restart with a different config
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[20:35:23] <BugzBunny> finish down load, moving to another disk roch
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[20:35:43] <BugzBunny> roch: What type of OS is it?
[20:35:44] <roch> I am here ;)
[20:35:54] <BugzBunny> Linux?
[20:36:01] <BugzBunny> Solris?
[20:36:03] <roch> http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/slaq-8.1.6/release-slaq-8.1.6.htm
[20:36:04] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/xLOhdG] (Page title not found or empty. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.)
[20:36:07] <BugzBunny> Yes
[20:36:12] <roch> linux, based of slackware
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[20:36:23] <BugzBunny> So, Linux, what Linux version?
[20:36:38] <BugzBunny> 2.x 3.x or 4.x?
[20:36:52] <roch> 4.4.40
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[20:38:35] <BugzBunny> 50 seconds to extract
[20:38:45] <BugzBunny> Okay, I am going to the store
[20:38:49] <BugzBunny> biab
[20:38:58] <roch> I am here . be back safe ;)
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[20:47:55] <BugzBunny> is 64bit
[20:47:56] <BugzBunny> ?
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[20:48:48] <Laki> alright I figured out the synaptics thing
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[20:49:37] <Laki> the newest package actually was the right one, not sure why it didn't work the first time however
[20:49:38] <roch> BugzBunny, this exact image is amd64 so 64bit
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[20:50:03] <BugzBunny> Laki: great
[20:50:15] <BugzBunny> roch: Frailed to open disk image
[20:50:19] <BugzBunny> hmmm
[20:50:26] <BugzBunny> I can mount it in windows
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[20:51:08] <BugzBunny> Windows can't mount it
[20:51:12] <BugzBunny> Yeah....
[20:51:31] <BugzBunny> It's not that type of IMG that Windows or VB on windows is going to like
[20:51:36] <BugzBunny> hmmmm
[20:51:40] <magicrug> lols at windows
[20:52:24] <BugzBunny> roch: You make me reboot in Linux
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[20:55:04] <roch> ha :D
[20:55:17] <BugzBunny> Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: AMD FX-8320E Eight-Core Processor (1.40GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (7.2 GiB Free) Swap: 6.9 GiB Total (6.9 GiB Free) • Storage: 8.4 GB / 43.7 GB (35.3 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480] @ Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RD9x0/RX980 Host Bridge • Uptime: 1m 51s
[20:55:22] <roch> if U want to mount it as loopback U need gdisk
[20:55:28] <BugzBunny> Let me install QEMU and libvirt
[20:55:31] <roch> but I can tell U correct offset
[20:55:39] <BugzBunny> roch, I don't need no such thing
[20:55:47] <roch> oh
[20:55:54] <roch> teach me mastah :D
[20:56:00] <BugzBunny> Btw, thanks for the info
[20:56:13] <BugzBunny> If I need offset for loopback
[20:56:19] <BugzBunny> If I get to that point
[20:56:21] <BugzBunny> I quit
[20:56:27] <BugzBunny> :-p
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[20:57:02] <BugzBunny> First, I need yt videos to watch while I work
[20:57:12] <roch> ha
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[20:57:49] <BugzBunny> dammmmm man
[20:57:57] <BugzBunny> You force me to watch commercials
[20:58:05] <BugzBunny> I didn't setup this up complete
[20:58:08] <BugzBunny> oh well
[20:58:21] * BugzBunny watches commercials.. how entertaining
[20:59:15] <roch> hostsblock to the rescue , or just ublock origin
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[20:59:51] <BugzBunny> No no .. I have network proxy
[21:00:22] <BugzBunny> But I need to setup FTP download SSL cert so I can add into Chrome so I can watch Commercial Free videos
[21:00:28] <BugzBunny> I am too lazy for that right now
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[21:03:11] <BugzBunny> Man, with LXQT
[21:03:16] <BugzBunny> Things is so fast
[21:03:22] <BugzBunny> I need setup Compiz
[21:03:24] <roch> I also got my proxy, dnsmasq and hostsblock ;)
[21:03:30] <BugzBunny> sweet
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[21:06:08] <BugzBunny> Octopi error
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[21:06:16] <BugzBunny> Partial updates are not supported
[21:06:21] <BugzBunny> I swear
[21:06:28] <BugzBunny> WTF that's suppose to mean
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[21:06:59] <BugzBunny> I am scared to update
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[21:08:28] <BugzBunny> boost-libs-1.63.0-1 cantarell-fonts-1:0.0.25-3 flex-2.6.3-1 fontconfig-2.12.1-4 gcc-6.3.1-1 gcc-libs-6.3.1-1 gdk-pixbuf2-2.36.3-2 grub-1:2.02.beta3-6
[21:08:28] <BugzBunny> libbluray-0.9.3.r84.05c9fdec-1 libldap-2.4.44-3 libnl-3.2.29-1 libpng-1.6.28-1 libsystemd-232-7 libtool-2.4.6-7 libwebp-0.5.2-1 libxfont2-2.0.1-1 lightdm-1:1.20.0-2
[21:08:28] <BugzBunny> linux-amd-staging-4.9.635983.56f49451d10c-1 lz4-1:1.7.5-1 m4-1.4.18-1 mpfr-3.1.5.p2-1 noto-fonts-20161221-1 sed-4.3-1 source-highlight-3.1.8-11
[21:08:28] <BugzBunny> speech-dispatcher-0.8.6-1 sqlite-3.16.2-1 systemd-232-7 systemd-sysvcompat-232-7 vim-8.0.0170-1 vim-runtime-8.0.0170-1 xf86-input-evdev-2.10.4-2
[21:08:31] <BugzBunny> xf86-input-joystick-1.6.2-6 [removal] xf86-input-keyboard-1.9.0-2 xf86-input-libinput-0.23.0-1 xf86-input-mouse-1.9.2-3 xf86-input-synaptics-1.9.0-1
[21:08:34] <BugzBunny> xf86-video-fbdev-0.4.4-6 xorg-mkfontdir-1.0.7-5 xorg-server-1.19.1-1 xorg-server-common-1.19.1-1
[21:08:39] <BugzBunny> Okay, I think I can't update
[21:09:01] <BugzBunny> amdgpu-pro AFAIK doesun't support 1.19 yet
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[21:13:11] <superbia> BugzBunny: xtal meth?
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[21:15:23] <BugzBunny> superbia, You think I am on meth eh?
[21:16:02] * roch never was on meth
[21:16:05] <BugzBunny> superbia, How do you take meth? You snort it, smore it?
[21:16:08] <roch> I swear
[21:16:14] <gluque> hi there! I'm new on Manjaro (16.10.03 XFCE)... I can't find neither Google Chrome nor Dropbox with pacman. How can I install them? thx
[21:16:39] <BugzBunny> I am getting linvirt error.. I know I am missing something but I have to figure out what
[21:16:49] <tmsbrdrs_> gluque: use the AUR for both of those
[21:17:20] <gluque> through yaourt?
[21:17:25] <tmsbrdrs_> yep
[21:17:34] <gluque> thanks bro!
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[21:17:53] <tmsbrdrs_> np, have fun
[21:18:04] <superbia> BugzBunny: in europe we only have cheese and wine
[21:18:14] <superbia> BugzBunny: and ringos makes bengian beer..
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[21:18:36] <BugzBunny> In the United States.. we have Trump and crack
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[21:20:54] <superbia> i stopped reading after Trump
[21:21:00] <superbia> my brain overflowed
[21:22:45] <BugzBunny> You must be lucky, you live in Croatia don't you? You don't have to deal with us losers
[21:23:33] <d42> until the bombs of freedom fall :^)
[21:23:39] <BugzBunny> I am getting this error http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Failed_to_connect_to_the_hypervisor
[21:23:41] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/GOkJG5] Failed to connect to the hypervisor - Libvirt Wiki
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[21:24:47] <BugzBunny> United States have dumb Government but hopefully we not that dumb to do something that dumb
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[21:25:33] <BugzBunny> Why is Yahou Search engine the default for Firefox on Arch Linux?
[21:25:38] <BugzBunny> Yahoo*
[21:25:56] <CoffeePad> It was not when I installed it
[21:26:46] <BugzBunny> It is here
[21:27:23] <CoffeePad> But you can easily chang I
[21:27:25] <CoffeePad> T
[21:27:36] <CoffeePad> Change it*
[21:27:55] <BugzBunny> Of course I can, but it's a hassle, which begs the question, what Firefox/Arch Linux had a falling out with Google?
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[21:29:58] <CoffeePad> Well that duck engine also get used a lot
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[21:31:30] <BugzBunny> duck engine I can understand
[21:31:46] <BugzBunny> Yahoo, I will try, I tried Bing for awhile
[21:32:13] <CoffeePad> You know what I meant right?
[21:32:20] <BugzBunny> My opinion... eh.. it's alright... I think most search engines are the same except for Google who know so mucha bout u
[21:32:37] <BugzBunny> CoffeePad, DuckDuckGo search Engine
[21:32:40] <BugzBunny> Ofc
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[21:33:28] <CoffeePad> Yeah
[21:33:35] <roch> BugzBunny, how are Your virtualization engines coming online? status active? :)
[21:33:42] <CoffeePad> Google ftw
[21:33:53] <BugzBunny> roch, I have to good why it's not working
[21:33:58] <BugzBunny> I have qemu installed
[21:34:14] <BugzBunny> I like to use Libvirt with Virt-Manager
[21:34:21] <BugzBunny> But its failing
[21:34:29] <roch> not familiar
[21:34:29] <BugzBunny> I don't want to install virtualbox
[21:34:33] <BugzBunny> k
[21:34:51] <BugzBunny> QEMU is something I am going to use a lot with LXC
[21:34:52] <roch> I know You will fix it some day :>
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[21:34:58] <BugzBunny> lol
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[21:43:35] <BugzBunny> Damn
[21:43:47] <BugzBunny> systemctl status libvirtd
[21:43:55] <BugzBunny> truncates the sentence
[21:44:36] <BugzBunny> Jan 14 15:42:44 DESKTOP-8RF1D0U libvirtd[3203]: hostname: DESKTOP-8RF1D0U
[21:44:36] <BugzBunny> Jan 14 15:42:44 DESKTOP-8RF1D0U libvirtd[3203]: failed to load module /usr/lib/libvirt/connection-driver/libvirt_driver_storage.so libboost_thread.so.1.63.0: cannot open shared object file:
[21:44:36] <BugzBunny> Jan 14 15:42:44 DESKTOP-8RF1D0U libvirtd[3203]: failed to load module /usr/lib/libvirt/connection-driver/libvirt_driver_qemu.so /usr/lib/libvirt/connection-driver/libvirt_driver_qemu.so: und
[21:44:55] <BugzBunny> Sigh
[21:45:26] <BugzBunny> okay
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[21:45:51] <BugzBunny> Why libboost is not pulled as a dep
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[21:47:23] <BugzBunny> Finally!
[21:48:01] <BugzBunny> man... I have to look for the partion that has that image
[21:48:04] <BugzBunny> sighhhh
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[21:50:27] * ringos Loves eating Rabbits
[21:53:34] <roch> BugzBunny, sudo updatedb && locate *slaq*.img
[21:55:17] <BugzBunny> roch, You mean mount /dev/sdb5 /mnt/ntfs/disk2/spare_room
[21:55:56] <BugzBunny> Btw PCmanFM believes that a folder with dump and a file dump is the same thing
[21:56:20] <BugzBunny> You can't a file dump in the same directory that has a directory name dump
[21:56:22] <BugzBunny> wtf
[21:59:39] <BugzBunny> I am done
[21:59:43] * BugzBunny goes to bed
[22:00:04] <BugzBunny> Unable to complete install
[22:00:05] <roch> gn! BugzBunny !
[22:00:18] <roch> we can do it , tomorrow ;p
[22:00:20] <BugzBunny> Too much stress... lol
[22:00:33] <roch> watch some kittens online
[22:00:45] <roch> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPv9yKC76hE
[22:00:47] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/ZHsjxT] Kitten Academy Live Stream - YouTube
[22:00:50] <BugzBunny> switch back to windows
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[22:14:19] <manjaro-kde5--> hi
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[22:24:20] <ringos> hi
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[22:48:07] <Kunda_> how do I gain access to open a ticket on the manjaro packages bugtracker ?
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[22:54:40] <Kunda_> BugzBunny ^ any idea ?
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[23:03:33] <Kunda_> I opened a ticket here: https://github.com/manjaro/packages-community/issues/249
[23:03:35] <Botergos> [https://is.gd/Ohh9L6] [FreeCAD] Please correct the Release and Revision # in Help > About FreeCAD · Issue #249 · manjaro/packages-community · GitHub
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