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[00:04:05] <ringos> hmmm
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[00:43:45] <manjaroi3> huhu, any manjaro i3 user knows how to change power settings? preinstalled xfce4 settings seem useless. Just wanne stop it to get into suspend mode when laptop is closed.
[00:48:31] <PMunch> I use Manjaro i3 but on a desktop
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[01:13:51] <manjaroi3> ok thx guys
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[01:14:45] <Celmor> np
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[01:17:11] <manjaroi3> great help, works :) am a little bit stupid still about systemd stuff.
[01:17:15] <negen> I had to revert to the older mpv osc
[01:17:26] <negen> that new stuff was not doing it for me
[01:17:57] <negen> could not get used to it but mind you i do use subtitles quite a bit so the osc is used a bit more often for me
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[01:19:18] <negen> well pretty much every distro is using systemd now manjaroi3 so it is something to spend some time learning it makes it easy to distro hop
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[01:20:57] <dontknowanything> how do I change the default power indicator icon so that it conforms to the rest of the icons?
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[01:57:58] <manjaroi3> i got a little group about minimal distros and some guy installed a devuan systemd-less system on n old netbook for real laten
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[01:58:34] <manjaroi3> cy purpose. so systemd would slow down older systems so much ?
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[01:59:24] <manjaroi3> and anyway: what you think are the major advantages of systemd
[01:59:24] <manjaroi3> ?
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[03:46:22] <hedgie> totally OT, but USB turntable arrived tonight. I'm happy
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[04:33:10] <Danilochka> Hello, how would I disable hardware acceleration if im using i3
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[04:43:18] <sky_> will it destroy my windows drive if manjaro installs the bootloader there?
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[04:43:31] <sky_> well.. not destroy but you know, make it not bootable
[04:43:32] <sky_> ?
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[04:56:08] <hedgie> sky_ if the bootloader is on a different partition, it shouldn't affect windows
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[04:57:48] <sky_> it just says it's going to install the bootloader on the windows drive. doesn't even specify a partition
[04:58:16] <hedgie> hmm. did you do a manual partition setup?
[04:59:27] <sky_> yes, I specified a /boot/efi partition as well.. Idk why it wants to put the bootloader on a separate drive
[04:59:49] <hedgie> it is a separate logical drive, just not physical
[05:00:51] <sky_> it is a separate physical drive
[05:01:38] <hedgie> hmm. I'll leave this one to someone who knows more and, probably more importantly, hasn't been drinking as a way to avoid the rain
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[05:02:32] <sky_> haha.. thank you for the honesty
[05:02:41] <sky_> anyone care to lend a hand
[05:02:57] <hedgie> give it time. 95% of the people here are afk
[05:03:45] <hedgie> (doesn't help that my only dual-boot system doesn't run manjaro)
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[05:10:50] <sky_> well it worked hedgie
[05:10:54] <sky_> all is well
[05:11:19] * hedgie does happy dance
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[05:14:03] <sky_> yeaah!!
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[05:14:39] <hedgie> I'm still fairly new to manjaro, but I am liking it as a primary OS
[05:15:30] <sky_> me too... If I could just get the nvidia drivers to work on it on my thinkpad I would forget about xubuntu all together
[05:15:47] <sky_> I installed manjaro for the first time about a month ago
[05:15:53] <sky_> haven't looked back
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[05:16:15] <sky_> makes everything else I've used look messy and complicated
[05:16:18] <hedgie> nvidia drivers are working well on my desktop (hardware manager thing), which is why I left tumbleweed on this machine
[05:16:43] <sky_> yeah this is a Thinkpad P50 with Quadro M2000M
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[05:17:45] <sky_> nvidia drivers work great on my desktop, but for some reason on this laptop. I can't get the X stuff to work properly
[05:17:59] <hedgie> I'm content with nouveau on the laptop since I use windows for all the games on it
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[05:18:29] <hedgie> (ideapad something or other, but it's new)
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[05:20:58] <sky_> yeah, I don't mind the nouveau, but I have a dock and external displays, with the nvidia drivers on xubuntu, I can actually use the displays through the dock
[05:21:34] <sky_> so that's really the only reason I'm holding onto xubuntu is Linux+P50+externalDisplays+Dock
[05:21:41] <hedgie> useful
[05:21:54] <sky_> yes..
[05:22:02] <sky_> have you messed with nextcloud or owncloud at all?
[05:22:26] <hedgie> nope. I pay spideroak for my offsite backup
[05:23:11] <hedgie> given my upload speeds, that took *ages*
[05:23:28] <sky_> never heard of spideroak
[05:23:36] <sky_> what do you like about the service?
[05:24:02] <hedgie> encrypted client-side, so it should be zero-knowledge
[05:25:36] <sky_> ahh.. that's pretty neat.. so they just get a bunch of unintelligible bits
[05:25:44] <sky_> and you have a reliable backup
[05:26:42] <hedgie> that's the idea. and $12 for 1TB isn't bad
[05:27:15] <hedgie> if I had money for another box and colo, I'd do owncloud, but that'd be a bit much right now
[05:28:29] <sky_> what's colo?
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[05:28:51] <hedgie> co-location
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[05:29:27] <sky_> co location, like a ddns provider>
[05:29:29] <sky_> ?
[05:29:40] <hedgie> more like stick a box in someone's data centre
[05:31:26] <sky_> ahh..
[05:31:40] <sky_> got ya...
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[05:32:26] <sky_> how much does that cost? I'm guessing you just pay for the server and they install it and all that jaz then just give you access
[05:32:37] <sky_> I mean the service by the way
[05:32:41] <sky_> not the server
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[05:33:46] <hedgie> not sure. but I'm pretty happy with what I have. only downside is having to use dropbox to share shite, since *everybody* has that
[05:34:27] <sky_> Yeah, I just don't like dropbox for some reason...
[05:34:50] <sky_> I don't really know why... I just don't probably because the free account is so small
[05:34:55] <hedgie> neither do I.
[05:35:26] <sky_> I don't know why anyone would use that over google drive?
[05:35:37] <hedgie> I wouldn't trust any company with condi rice on the board for privacy, personally
[05:35:44] <sky_> I suppose we are in the 4% though and we'll never understand the average user
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[05:36:04] <sky_> condi rice is on the board at google
[05:36:05] <sky_> ?
[05:36:18] <hedgie> no, dropbox
[05:36:50] <sky_> wow...
[05:37:07] <sky_> do you mind me asking what you do for a living?
[05:37:22] <hedgie> looking for work. you?
[05:37:40] <sky_> graduate as a Computer Engineer CpE in May
[05:37:47] <sky_> then hopefully have a job lined up in Oregon
[05:37:59] <sky_> Developing unmanned aerial systems
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[05:38:20] <hedgie> just wait until they go all terminator on us :P
[05:38:32] <sky_> I know man... I feel bad contributing to that
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[05:38:36] <sky_> but,
[05:38:58] <sky_> the location of the job is pretty close to my dream location to live
[05:38:59] <hedgie> I was joking. I'm not too worried about that
[05:39:02] <sky_> I am
[05:39:08] <sky_> not the terminator part
[05:39:20] <sky_> but the unmanned systems having the ability to kill
[05:39:32] <sky_> terminator is, "unrealistic" in the near future.
[05:39:34] <hedgie> oh yeah. that's bad
[05:39:39] <sky_> but a walking robot that can shoot you is not
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[05:40:06] <sky_> or a flying one that can shoot a laser at your window, measure the vibrations, and reconstruct the audio in your house
[05:40:20] <sky_> that shit freaks me out
[05:40:58] <sky_> by the way that laser audio stuff has already been done
[05:44:58] <hedgie> oh, I know. However, my paranoia is tempered by what I can actually do to mitigate things
[05:46:09] <sky_> yes, I'm not paranoid, but I am aware
[05:46:45] <sky_> and willing to do what I can to mitigate and edge out whatever privacy I can as long as I can before the perverbial boot is planted on my face
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[05:50:01] <hedgie> at least given my mental health history, I'll probably be sent to a nuthouse
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<Botergos> [https://is.gd/nE8lOD] Gaius Publius: Best Buy National Repair Techs Routinely Search Customer Devices, Act as "Paid Informers" for FBI | naked capitalism
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[05:56:57] <sky_> Wuuut
[05:57:21] <hedgie> that's been going on for ages
[05:58:00] <sky_> I mean.. I don't know why you would have best buy repair your computer... but that's freaking crazy
[05:58:23] <sky_> If I paid an FBI agent to do something for me that would be bribery
[05:58:38] <sky_> but no big deal if the gov bribes you... interesting
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[06:04:13] <inahd> enabled virtualization in bios and now 4.9 kernel boots up nicely !?
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[06:07:03] <inahd> everything else is still broken thouh
[06:08:09] <sky_> ? what are you working on inahd
[06:09:46] <inahd> oh, suspend to ram and wireless shit
[06:10:24] <inahd> [ 218.659608] <3>[fglrx:firegl_lock_free] *ERROR* lock was not held by 3! (*lock=0x80000001)
[06:10:24] <inahd> [ 218.659611] <3>[fglrx:firegl_unlock] *ERROR* firegl_lock_free failed!
[06:10:59] <inahd> maybe the free drivers will work now with newer kernel?
[06:11:34] <sky_> What type of machine/
[06:11:35] <sky_> ?
[06:11:55] <inahd> is amd a8 6410 api
[06:12:13] <inahd> radeon r5 gpu (or something)
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[06:12:33] <inahd> laptop
[06:13:48] <inahd> dmesg looks messy
[06:13:58] <inahd> after suspend
[06:15:23] <inahd> seems like i might of actually fixed my wireless problems though
[06:16:48] <inahd> when using mhwd to change gpu drivers, must i only have one driver installed at a time?
[06:17:18] <inahd> or is there some way to choose which to boot with?
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[06:21:45] <inahd> : xf86-video-ati and catalyst-server are in conflict (xorg-server<1.18.0)
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[06:23:13] <inahd> what a mess.
[06:23:32] <sky_> no noke
[06:23:34] <sky_> joke
[06:24:05] <inahd> cant remove catalyst. cant install ati
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[06:49:13] <hedgie> can you blacklist catalyst?
[06:50:10] <inahd> i dunno...
[06:50:14] <inahd> can i?
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[06:51:09] <inahd> i was hoping the auto installer would do everything for me
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[07:19:20] <b0n> heyy so the other day when i told my laptop to turn off it had a kernel panic..where would that log be?
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[07:23:57] <Vlado9A> b0n: try /var/log/lastlog
[07:24:34] <b0n> R�Wtty2⏎
[07:24:43] <b0n> is all that says
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[07:26:21] <b0n> someone said "journalctl --since=yesterday"
[07:26:24] <b0n> but im not seeing it
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[07:27:54] <squishy> how do i get my mac adress for my wirless card
[07:28:51] <Vlado9A> squishy: it's a perfect question for your friend google
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[07:31:10] <optics> b0n: I guess if it's in there it would be classed as critical so journalctl -p "crit"
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<Botergos> [https://is.gd/bNCh8I] [Bash] Jan 09 13:49:00 AM systemd-coredump[1548]: Process 1032 (pamac-daemon) of user - Pastebin.com
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[07:48:24] <squishy> see i thought of google but i thought i would ask here cos i cant see what im looking for in goodle
[07:48:26] <squishy> google
[07:49:58] <Mark__T> try: iw dev link
[07:50:03] <Mark__T> or iw list
[07:51:32] <Mark__T> squishy ^
[07:52:39] <thid> morning
[07:55:06] <inahd> i am determined to resolve this unresolvable conflict
[07:55:58] <Strit_Laptop> inahd: the conflict between russia and ukraine? :P
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[07:56:26] <inahd> we will not negotiate with terrorists
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[07:58:14] <inahd> Strit_Laptop, i would like to install ati driver, but its in conflict with catalyst.
[07:58:34] <inahd> cannot remove catalyst because xorg depends on it
[07:58:37] <inahd> or something
[07:58:39] <Strit_Laptop> Yeah, uninstall catalyst, then install ati. You can't have both free and nonfree driver installed at the same time.
[07:58:55] <Strit_Laptop> yeah, Catalist has it's "own" xorg.
[07:58:59] <inahd> fun
[07:59:30] <Strit_Laptop> So you need to make a not of what packages gets removed by catalyst, and install them again, when you install ati.
[07:59:39] <Strit_Laptop> just the newer versions. :)
[07:59:59] * Strit_Laptop has never bothered with Catalyst....
[08:00:07] <inahd> wait what?
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[08:00:34] <inahd> i can't remove catalyst though
[08:00:54] <inahd> catalyst-utils depends on it!
[08:00:56] <Strit_Laptop> Catalyst uses its own old version of xorg, because Catalyst does not support xorg 1.18.
[08:01:12] <Strit_Laptop> You removing it with Manjaro Settings Manager?
[08:01:15] <inahd> ya
[08:01:18] <inahd> trying to
[08:01:30] <Strit_Laptop> remove catalyst-utils too. :)
[08:02:44] <inahd> it just fails.
[08:02:56] <inahd> maybe through the command line i should try?
[08:03:20] <inahd> yaourt -R or something
[08:06:14] <inahd> i feel dangerously close to breaking stuff
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[08:09:07] <Strit_Laptop> Does it mention why it fails? (gotta go in 5 mins)
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[08:10:35] <inahd> i guess its just a string of dependencies. attempting to remove everything catalyst through add/remove software
[08:11:23] <Strit_Laptop> Yeah, you need to remove the dependencies aswell. But I don't really know which is the best way to do this, as I've never done it myself.
[08:11:35] <Strit_Laptop> maybe try from cli with mhwd?
[08:12:14] <inahd> tried it. holy crap package manager wants to remove waaay to many things
[08:12:59] <Strit_Laptop> Yeah, that's all the old xorg stuff probably.
[08:13:15] <inahd> no it wants to remove like tons of stuff
[08:13:21] <Strit_Laptop> Gotta go, sorry.
[08:13:24] <inahd> cool
[08:13:26] <inahd> peace
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[08:23:57] <inahd> what a mess...
[08:24:34] <ringos> hi
[08:28:24] <thid> hi ringos
[08:29:09] <ringos> hi thid ;) , didnt you cleaned up? :)
[08:29:39] <thid> hm?
[08:33:37] * b0n drinks
[08:33:55] * inahd drinks stuff too
[08:34:20] * b0n is drinking soju bombs
[08:35:09] <ringos> :)
[08:35:13] <inahd> eww
[08:35:47] <b0n> 문제?
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[08:37:44] * inahd is allergic to korea
[08:38:03] <b0n> infidel
[08:38:18] <inahd> what can i do?
[08:38:56] <b0n> inject yourself with more korea to counteract the allergens
[08:38:58] <inahd> there was only 1 and a half places i could eat in seoul
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[08:39:20] <b0n> tf are you allergic to good food? :P
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[08:39:30] <inahd> vegetarian.
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[08:40:05] <b0n> ahh okay, ill give you that
[08:40:31] <inahd> smell of silk worms is..
[08:40:42] <b0n> alot of classic korena dishes are made with a lot of animal fat and bones
[08:41:02] <inahd> everything has some kind of animal product
[08:41:13] <b0n> you can make vegetarian kimchi jjigae though
[08:41:34] <inahd> fish paste in everything that isn't obviously meat
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[08:41:35] <b0n> you just use mushrooms instead of anchovies for the stock :D
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[08:42:01] <b0n> i really love tofu though.. im not even a vegetarian lol
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[08:42:39] <inahd> the supreme master has a vegetarian restraunt that is super tasty in seoul
[08:42:42] <hedgie> I'll admit to accidentially using fish sauce in a dish for someone who was veggie. at least they accepted the apology
[08:43:23] <b0n> im sure they secretly loved it
[08:43:57] <hedgie> still felt guilty. I just wasn't thinking
[08:44:23] <inahd> i ate a bite of fish once. i did not love it.
[08:45:04] <b0n> kelp makes a good substitute for fish when making soup stock
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[08:45:25] <inahd> black salt is 'fishy'
[08:45:33] <inahd> cause of the sulphur
[08:45:35] <hedgie> kelp broth is good. especially with miso
[08:45:39] <b0n> when i make dashi for miso soup i use kelp and bonti flakes
[08:45:46] <b0n> bonito*
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[08:46:22] <b0n> its weird. i learned that i use korean soybean paste in my miso soup insetad of japanese. korean soybean paste is more chunky
[08:46:31] <b0n> we call it doenjang
[08:46:53] <hedgie> I'll have to see if they have it at my local Asian market
[08:47:23] <b0n> if you remove the bonito flakes from the miso soup youll have a vegetarian miso :)
[08:47:37] <b0n> (bonito flakes are tuna flakes)
[08:47:58] <inahd> yeah miso is tasty
[08:48:03] <b0n> man i havent made miso in ages. i should do that.
[08:48:05] <hedgie> kelp/bonito dashi with miso, lime juice, fresh ginger, hot peppers = good base for a soup
[08:48:23] <b0n> that sounds great actually
[08:48:25] * ringos watching naruto eating :)
[08:48:27] * b0n writes that down
[08:48:50] <inahd> damn its 3 am, i can't be thinking about food
[08:49:17] <hedgie> I then usually just throw in whatever protein source, and veggies that I have around. serve over noodles for carbs
[08:49:49] <b0n> last night i made ramyun with leftover mapo tofu
[08:49:58] <hedgie> I love mapo tofu
[08:50:02] <b0n> was soooooo goood..ramyun is that spicy korean ramen
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[08:50:25] <b0n> i want to learn how to make mapo tofu now because the two just went together so godamn well
[08:50:50] <hedgie> usually my leftovers end up being fried rice
[08:50:58] <inahd> i have been eating raw food for 10 months, but i do like cooking
[08:51:02] <b0n> sometimes i marinade tofu in teriyaki slices and then grill it and have it over rice
[08:51:05] <b0n> ugh so good
[08:51:18] <b0n> tofu slices in teriyaki lol i cant type
[08:51:35] <thid> gooog
[08:51:37] <thid> goood*
[08:51:41] <thid> I'm so hungry now
[08:51:44] <b0n> tofu is like a flavor sponge.. it just soaks up anything you put it in..
[08:51:52] <b0n> i marinade my tofu for like 4 days..
[08:51:59] <inahd> young jackfruit is like that
[08:52:10] <b0n> ugh im hungry now too lol
[08:52:13] <inahd> young jackfruit is the shit
[08:52:19] <hedgie> most of mine ends up deep-fried in a wok (using either a tempura or western batter)
[08:52:54] <b0n> fried tofu is great too
[08:53:11] <inahd> i prefer tempeh, as far as that goes
[08:53:27] <hedgie> I blame the Scottish side of the family. we fry anything/everything
[08:53:40] <b0n> i made scotch eggs recently
[08:53:48] <b0n> theyre pretty tasty with a cold beer
[08:53:54] <hedgie> yeah
[08:54:16] <hedgie> I think that the fry-up is probably the perfect hangover cure, even though it's hideously bad for you
[08:54:35] <b0n> i oddly never get hangovers
[08:54:57] <b0n> these soju bombs are 2 shots of soju + japanese beer
[08:55:07] <hedgie> when I drank more regularly, I tended to go for an ativan + hair of the dog
[08:55:37] <b0n> i keep my soju in the freezer cause it turns into a slushie consistency..its soo goooddd
[08:55:56] <b0n> wait, you talkin about that "purple drank" ? :P
[08:56:28] <hedgie> no. hair of the dog is just drinking more to kill the hangover
[08:56:37] <b0n> oh
[08:57:14] <b0n> you dont get hangovers from soju :) its why i drink it more than anything now
[08:57:16] <hedgie> (people in parts of Europe believed that rubbing the hair of the dog that bit someone into a wound would prevent illness)
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[08:57:40] <Strit_Laptop> Sounds like the dark ages hedgie. :)
[08:57:42] <b0n> the best cure for hangovers i found (on the rare occasion i had them) was weed
[08:57:45] <hedgie> yes
[08:57:56] <b0n> but ive been clean 3 years now~
[08:57:59] <hedgie> but the term survives
[08:58:12] <hedgie> ativan works wonders as well
[08:59:38] <inahd> weed is natures' narcotics anonymous
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[08:59:50] <b0n> im glad to be done with that stuff
[09:00:11] <inahd> aw b0n you just didnt smoke enough!
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[09:00:32] <b0n> no no
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[09:00:42] <b0n> i smoked way more than you can possibly even begin to imagine :(
[09:00:43] <inahd> hehe
[09:00:49] <inahd> i can imagine
[09:00:58] <b0n> 1 bowl every 15 minutes for 5 years :(
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[09:01:23] <inahd> 1 massive spliff at all times for... i forget
[09:01:48] <b0n> we also smoke moggies here in california. you put a small layer of tobacco on top of your bowl, in the bong. before you blaze it
[09:01:55] <b0n> those will fuck you up like nothing else
[09:02:08] <inahd> yeah good stuff
[09:02:17] <b0n> i gave this one kid a moggie once and his legs turned to jello and he hit the floor. he fell over..
[09:02:29] <inahd> i havent been smoking for some time as well, but its good medicine
[09:02:33] <b0n> man i used to wake up. vomit. smoke. vomit. then eat breakfast. my weed habits were unhealthy :/
[09:02:53] <inahd> weird
[09:02:55] <b0n> so i quit
[09:03:17] <b0n> im glad to be off it. though the thing i miss the most is the taste of a nicely rolled rice paper joint..the best
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[09:04:00] <b0n> i miss the taste more than the effects
[09:04:11] <hedgie> I can't even be around weed, so I wouldn't know
[09:04:30] <inahd> why not?
[09:04:35] <b0n> probably allergic
[09:04:38] <inahd> hmm
[09:04:44] <hedgie> even passive exposure provokes serious anxiety attacks
[09:04:53] <b0n> weed and anxiety go hand in hand
[09:04:55] <hedgie> I pop a benzo before going to concerts
[09:05:11] <b0n> i remember this one time we hid behind my friends fridge cause we thought there were people in the garden. no one was there.
[09:05:13] <inahd> the anxiety is you approaching the effect
[09:05:35] <inahd> gotta break through that shit
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[09:05:47] <b0n> weed nowdays just makes me feel crappy and makes me hope that the effect will be over soon
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[09:05:48] <hedgie> I'll stick with pills
[09:05:51] <b0n> thats why i quit
[09:06:19] <b0n> i want to get into cbd oil, i feel itll give me the taste i want and no thc effect
[09:07:28] <inahd> yeah cbd are pretty interesting
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[09:07:43] <b0n> i just miss that taste
[09:08:27] <inahd> well you get more than taste with cbd
[09:08:35] <inahd> but yeah.
[09:09:36] <inahd> herb is the healing of the nation
[09:09:58] <b0n> eh
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[09:10:09] <b0n> lil column a, lil column b
[09:10:21] <b0n> weed fucked up my ability to do math in my head. i wouldnt consider that healing
[09:10:48] <b0n> its been 3 years and im still shit at math
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[09:11:06] <b0n> also i have some lingering short term memory loss.
[09:11:16] <b0n> i think my brains fucked forever :)
[09:11:48] <inahd> naw man all that has more to do with the emotions than the herb.
[09:11:52] <inahd> imo
[09:11:59] <b0n> err i guess
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[09:12:43] <inahd> the mind attempts to compartmentalize the experiences to protect against our responses.
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[09:14:37] <inahd> the herb actually assists in neutralizing our responses, and creating connections. though their are caveats.
[09:15:41] <inahd> overuse of phosphates (a heavy metal) in commercial production negatively impacts the nervous system, cerebral functions.
[09:16:52] <peetaur> citation needed :P
[09:17:07] <b0n> lol
[09:17:16] <peetaur> I've heard pot smokers try to justify it in all sorts of ways, and never a citation.
[09:17:39] <inahd> peetaur, the citations you recieve for weed are different than the ones you are asking for
[09:17:47] <peetaur> haha
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[09:18:27] <inahd> seriously.
[09:19:05] <inahd> some interesting studies were done in jamaica though
[09:19:30] <inahd> and i mean obviously a lot of research going on these days
[09:20:12] <inahd> historically it was simply not done properly.
[09:20:46] <b0n> it messed me up
[09:20:57] <b0n> also jamaica is a terrible place and i would never go there again
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[09:22:54] <hedgie> the one plant I really like is kava
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[09:23:04] <inahd> kava is wonderful
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[09:24:13] <sgo11> hi, do anyone know how to check which font I am currently using in my lxterminal? thanks.
[09:24:29] <b0n> uhhh
[09:24:33] <b0n> right click > preferences?
[09:24:39] <b0n> is that a thing ?
[09:25:26] <sgo11> b0n, yeah, but it's monospace. I think monospace does not mean any fonts. just a group name.
[09:25:55] <b0n> monospace is a font
[09:26:06] <b0n> i think
[09:26:09] * b0n is a bit tipsy
[09:26:22] <hedgie> font family
[09:26:35] <b0n> i use terminator..if a font has a family it lets you select the font you want after you select the family
[09:27:51] <inahd> just for instance ;)
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[09:51:09] <brenton32839> having problem getting this trying to update: :: libkgeomap4: removing libmarble4 breaks dependency 'libmarble4'
[09:51:49] <peetaur> brenton32839: uninstall marble, do the update, install marble again
[09:52:01] <Strit_Laptop> brenton32839: update libgeomap4 first might also work.
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[10:02:37] <thid> 3 more ssd to check :/
[10:03:39] <thid> ssd 8x 60GB raid0 o_O
[10:04:15] <b0n> y tho
[10:04:18] <Nizumzen> thid: then one fails and you lose all your data
[10:04:21] <b0n> ^
[10:04:27] <thid> well duh
[10:04:29] <b0n> should use raid10
[10:04:34] <thid> nah
[10:04:38] <thid> its for testing
[10:04:52] <b0n> all i heard was "its a waste of time" ;)
[10:04:53] <thid> bought ssd for all-in-one pc
[10:05:13] <thid> wanted to test them before I install them
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[10:06:44] <brenton32839> i got it. removed orphaned packages
[10:07:08] <brenton32839> has to choose run in terminal and yes to replace a few things
[10:08:18] <b0n> shit its 1 am i have to be awake in 5 hours for colllegeee
[10:08:26] <brenton32839> goes to reset system. fingers crossed
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[10:08:42] <b0n> A+ is just such a boring certification
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[10:10:41] <inahd> holy crap i think i did it
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[10:11:40] <inahd> 4.9 kernel, ati driver, wireless working right...
[10:11:49] <inahd> now to test suspend
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[10:13:31] <inahd> this is so rad. wireless disconnects in suspend but i guess thats normal?
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[10:14:20] <b0n> sispend disconnects everything
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[10:14:55] <inahd> cool then i have finally fixed all known issues with this system
[10:15:18] <inahd> got to just let this sink in...
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[10:16:21] <b0n> domo arigato mister roboto
[10:16:26] <b0n> kay im hammered i need to sleep
[10:16:31] <b0n> annyeonghigaseyo
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[10:20:45] <inahd> sleep. i could do that.
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[10:35:28] <jarco_> hello, I am on majaro gnome. In the past my ssh keys would be autoloaded into my ssh-aganet (i assume by gnome keyring or something?) This broke a few months ago on 2 seperate manjaro computers. Any ideas on a possible cause or a fix?
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[10:38:58] <Strit_Laptop> Any keys in your .gnupg folder should be "loaded" if you enable it in gnome-keyring. Maybe see what "seahorse" tells you? It's a GUI program to manage ssh/gpg keys.
[10:39:29] <Strit_Laptop> sorry, not .gnupg, but .ssh rather
[10:41:27] <jarco_> they are in there, and seahorse does not show them loaded
[10:43:15] <Strit_Laptop> Btw, the ssh keys need to be present on the destination machine, before it autologins.
[10:43:30] <jarco_> of course :), I am using keys for years :)
[10:43:50] <Strit_Laptop> So what do you mean, they are no longer "loaded"?
[10:44:04] <jarco_> well, if I don't specify them with -i they arent working
[10:44:22] <jarco_> i then eval ssh-agent and ssh-add them all, but that seems limited to my urrent terminal
[10:44:56] <jarco_> In the past when I installed this system they just got loaded on boot (or x start I think) by manjaro gnome
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[10:45:59] <Strit_Laptop> I have no idea what you mean, I have never had ssh keys "loaded" and I never had to, to have them working. I just put them into my .ssh folder and make sure they are in the destinations authorized_hosts file and it just works.
[10:46:11] <jarco_> yes
[10:46:16] <jarco_> that means they are loaded
[10:46:24] <jarco_> into your ssh-agent
[10:46:59] <jarco_> they don't magically work, your ssh agent needs to have them loaded in . That's what I mean by loaded.
[10:47:03] <Strit_Laptop> Well, I have never had to do anything with the agent, it just happened automaticly.
[10:47:41] <Strit_Laptop> So why yours stopped, I can't say.
[10:47:45] <jarco_> ok
[10:47:48] <jarco_> thx for trying anyway :)
[10:48:03] <Strit_Laptop> Never use Gnome though, been on xfce and kde.
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[11:30:54] <omarramo> can someone tell me why I cant bind alt + shift + tab in hotkey settings?
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[12:33:07] <geek> how accurate is distrowatch? manjaro there seem to be growing so fast
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[12:34:20] <m4sk1n> I noticed that many people starts using Manjaro last time
[12:34:37] <geek> pacman and aur is the best thing we have nowadays but what about flatpak being the default package manager for all distro, should be a good thing to happen
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[12:34:58] <geek> m4sk1n, even on youtube has a lot of manjaro videos and people saying it's the best distro
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[12:37:08] <Strit_Laptop> geek: DistroWatch is not very accurate if you try to count users or popularity. DistroWatch only counts clicks on their own website.
[12:37:28] <geek> Strit_Laptop, ok but you can say that youtube is accurate at least
[12:37:34] <thid> and for that u can hier guys in india
[12:37:40] <thid> or bots
[12:38:15] <m4sk1n> In Poland many people switches to Linux
[12:38:16] <thid> I only wish manjaro had decent net-install iso
[12:38:34] <geek> linux marketsharing is growing finally
[12:38:34] <PMunch> Have anyone actually done a study on how many uses the different distros?
[12:38:56] <thid> m4sk1n: I'm not so sure about that
[12:39:02] <m4sk1n> Year of Linux :D
[12:39:03] <PMunch> Everyone says that DistroWatch is bad but no one has any good alternatives
[12:39:12] <geek> if gaming on linux gets better in 2017 maybe a miracle happens and we get 10% of the marketshare
[12:39:17] <m4sk1n> thid: I can really see that
[12:39:51] <Strit_Laptop> geek: not at all. Youtube represents a very small portion of users.
[12:40:16] <geek> 10% in 2017 and 30% in 2018, lets be optimistic
[12:40:32] <geek> Strit_Laptop, youtube can be use as statistic tool
[12:40:57] <thid> m4sk1n: where u see that ?
[12:40:58] <geek> used*
[12:41:12] <Strit_Laptop> But only within Youtube it self. I have many friends and family members that are on Manjaro, but does not google or youtube anything related to Manjaro, because it just works for them.
[12:41:36] <Strit_Laptop> Where do they show up in statistics?
[12:41:50] <Strit_Laptop> Exactly, nowhere
[12:42:52] <roch_> my cat uses manjaro, she is in YT.
[12:44:16] <geek> Strit_Laptop, how people know in elections the percentage of votes for a candidate?
[12:44:56] <geek> you don't need to ask for everyone if they are using manjaro, you use statistics for a small group of people and knows whats going on
[12:45:28] <Strit_Laptop> geek: yeah, pre election vote calculations are also not trustworthy because of that. The only thing you can trust, is the vote it self.
[12:46:01] <Strit_Laptop> They just have a sample of voters for calculating. So distrowtch is a sample and youtube is a sample in regards to Manjaro.
[12:46:28] <geek> so whats yout opnion, manjaro is growing or not
[12:47:17] <Strit_Laptop> I think it is growing. Watching the download counter on the Sourceforge site, it seems to get larger for each release.
[12:48:13] <roch_> would be nice to have a counter how many uniqe machines downloaded manjaro-keyring for eg.
[12:48:20] <thid> ^
[12:48:28] <geek> download counter don't tell so much, I downloaded manjaro iso a lot of times and I bet you did the same
[12:48:46] <Strit_Laptop> geek: I download them about 1 time, when I make the torrents.
[12:49:03] <thid> any1 know if they plan to update cli-installer ?
[12:50:31] <geek> roch_, would be nice to have a pool during manjaro installation to send users information about if the user is new or not
[12:51:32] <roch_> and push amazon ads to them! :)
[12:51:44] <geek> poll? i forgot this word
[12:52:12] <thid> poll
[12:52:23] <geek> thanks man
[12:52:45] <thid> but killing them in pool sounds nice also
[12:53:14] <roch_> if U a shark
[12:53:24] <thid> sharkjaro!
[12:53:43] <roch_> nah, that just my every morning
[12:54:16] <thid> I wonder how hard would be to update cli-installer
[12:54:35] <geek> roch why not donate for manjaro developers, ADs would help them, I wouldn't bother with ads during the system installation
[12:55:04] <thid> same, since I only use net-install xD
[12:55:27] <roch_> ads in pamac.
[12:55:48] <thid> nah
[12:55:51] <thid> ot much ubuntu way
[12:56:04] <roch_> :)
[12:56:30] <roch_> after that I avoid ubuntu as a plague worse then M$
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[12:58:52] <geek> roch soon Microsoft will announce that it has bought Canonical ;)
[12:59:45] <thid> so true
[12:59:56] <thid> w10 allready have ubuntu inside
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[13:02:53] <geek> microsoft is officially the first virus for linux
[13:03:27] <roch_> ./acquire & extinguish
[13:04:04] <roch_> that's old M$ policy, it's all over again
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[13:05:14] <roch_> but it would be nice to log onto some win box via ssh and fix all that way, who knows.
[13:05:55] <thid> or run irssi
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[13:08:39] <roch_> thid, what colour theme U got for irssi, screenshot pls :)
[13:08:50] <thid> default!!!
[13:14:53] <roch_> ugh.
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[14:04:46] <roch_> ggr, yes it's vert ugly, TY ;)
[14:05:19] <ggr> you welcome
[14:06:01] <ggr> my aim was to make things look readable both in dark and transparent terminals.. no other aims
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[14:15:08] <roch_irssi> test
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[14:32:08] <helpmepls> hey
[14:32:37] <helpmepls> can someone help me? my taskbar isnt showing up after i changed my font and my background is gray.
[14:32:38] <roch_> HEY!.
[14:33:44] <roch_> I got black background
[14:34:18] <helpmepls> is anyone here :)?
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[14:35:17] <helpmepls> can someone help me? my taskbar isnt showing up after i changed my font and my background is gray.
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[14:38:48] <thid> and he left
[14:39:12] <roch_> I almost helped him
[14:39:42] <roch_> I was about to tell him to rm .config/xfce*
[14:39:46] <thid> I almost began to consider about helping him
[14:40:00] <Lowl3v3l> i almost considered calling him out on being rude
[14:40:32] <roch_> that too!
[14:40:48] <roch_> even rude ppl need help
[14:41:05] <thid> rude ppl need bondage!
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[14:41:17] <roch_> where do I sign up
[14:41:24] <thid> u ned to be ginger
[14:41:33] <roch_> :C
[14:41:34] <Lowl3v3l> roch_, its nice for them they need help,i usually dont care if they refuse to pay me ;)
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[14:42:37] <roch_> oh, I would accept a payment only above 1hr of quality service, I guess but I am no ginger ;c
[14:42:52] <roch_> thid, teach me!
[14:42:56] <thid> hm?
[14:43:24] <roch_> thid, U use compton ? :)
[14:43:26] <thid> how to be black ginger jude ?
[14:43:35] <roch_> thid, yes , thx :D
[14:44:18] <roch_> I saw some video clip with negro albino in it, wicked
[14:44:23] <thid> roch_: yeah I did use alot with openbox, but didnt conf it yet with dde
[14:44:48] <roch_> oh, I got one last gripe with compton
[14:45:36] <thid> I think I have somewhere in home conf file for my ob, I plan to test it with my deepin desktop :D
[14:46:35] <roch_> there is usually almost a second, for it to refresh when for eg. text is typed in terminal
[14:46:50] <roch_> I think it's strongly related to nvidia
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[14:47:40] <roch_> why use it on KDE ? is it minimal kde ?
[14:47:52] <roch_> slimmed down version
[14:48:48] <thid> hm?kde?
[14:49:57] <roch_> dde ? is it a mistype?
[14:50:40] <thid> deepin desktop -> dde
[14:51:05] <roch_> ah, ty, will check it up.
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[14:55:49] <manjaro-web|2645> hello
[14:55:58] <manjaro-web|2645> can someone help me
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[15:01:28] <nt_> manjaro-web|2537| hope I can, what's your problem?
[15:02:24] <roch_> fail:)
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[15:14:00] <inahd> hahaha i woke up and remembered i fixed everything last night!
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[15:18:05] <roch_> break smth
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[15:44:24] <gourab> please help
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[16:06:10] <raztafari> Is it normal that during installation of Manjaro KDE about 21% it says "running unpackfs operation" and has done this for the past 10-15 minutes?
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[16:09:37] <marco-parillo> I seemed to recall it took a long time on my netbook with a spinning drive, but that was months ago. I would be patient.
[16:11:08] <raztafari> marco-parillo: okey, i'll be patient then, since it is indeed running on a netbook with a spinning drive. although i first tried to install it inside a VM with an i5 and SSD.
[16:11:27] <raztafari> The installer has not frozen so i guess i'll just what!
[16:11:31] <raztafari> wait*
[16:12:29] <raztafari> marco-parillo: NICE it just went from 21% (which it has been stuck on for a while) to 22%. Progress :)
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[16:19:21] <marco-parillo> Thank you for your patience, raztafari
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[16:39:06] <raztafari> marco-parillo: hmm now it seems stuck again. I mean, is this seriously going to take an hour to install :/ So weird
[16:41:40] <marco-parillo> And then it will be an hour to apply your updates if you are on an underpowered netbook.
[16:43:11] <raztafari> marco-parillo: okey so this is normal then? It took quite a long time even on a i5, 16 ram, 250SSD
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[16:44:36] <marco-parillo> Oh, that does sound slow then. Sorry I am a bit of a newbie also.
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[17:44:36] <manjaro-kde5--> Hello
[17:44:56] <manjaro-kde5--> Im using kde and i cant make my laptop stay awake after closing the lid
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[17:46:20] <manjarokde212313> Im using kde and i cant make my laptop stay awake after closing the lid
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[17:46:41] <manjarokde212313> I already tried changing the settings
[17:46:56] <manjarokde212313> Do i have to restart the computer for it to work?
[17:50:11] <Celmor> why are so many people coming in here with the same problem?
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[17:50:36] <Celmor> great, now he left
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[18:06:31] <hedgie> methinks that they're not too familiar with patience
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[18:14:25] <roch_> U could have helped them!! :c
[18:14:44] <hedgie> I was afk, myself
[18:14:52] <roch_> excuses :D
[18:15:02] <roch_> do better next time!
[18:15:05] <hedgie> (plus, new to manjaro here, and my laptop runs tumbleweed/windows)
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[18:15:44] <roch_> tumbleweed ?
[18:16:17] <hedgie> the rolling opensuse. main reason I'm on manjaro on my desktop is TW plays hell with the proprietary nvidia drivers at the moment
[18:16:52] <roch_> TV?
[18:17:00] <roch_> :)
[18:17:07] <hedgie> sorry, was abbreviating for tumbleweed there
[18:17:28] <roch_> ah, U totally lost me on suse and all, not familiar at all
[18:17:28] <hedgie> I'm liking manjaro, though. I just wish that I could get plasmashell to not eat up an entire core by itself
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[18:18:52] <roch_> choke it with renice a bit ?
[18:19:00] <hedgie> now there's an idea
[18:19:40] <hedgie> no dice
[18:21:24] <roch_> I only used KDE once
[18:21:48] <roch_> on knoppix from 2005 year :)
[18:22:13] <hedgie> I still have a knoppix image on a flash drive somewhere for system rescue
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[18:27:54] <roch_> got puppy for that
[18:28:07] <roch_> slacko6.3.2
[18:28:27] <roch_> testing 'new' xenialpup64-7.0.7.iso in VM now ;)
[18:28:29] <hedgie> hmm, I'm more of a fan of kittens than puppies
[18:29:00] <roch_> they are both adorable creatures
[18:29:35] <hedgie> that's how they survive their younger stages
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[18:33:18] <hedgie> of course, I haven't had to do much rescuing lately. I tend to use snapper if something goes wrong and it takes more than 5 minutes to troubleshoot
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[18:38:43] <roch_> hedgie, snapper ? pls elaborate :)
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[18:42:14] <hedgie> snapshotting tool for btrfs filesystems.
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[18:43:02] <hedgie> manjaro also has snap-pac, which creates an automatic snapshot when using pacman, so if an update fscks everything, rolling back to a previous version is pretty easy
[18:43:35] <hedgie> (the official site is snapper.io, but their documentation is fairly suse-specific. I much prefer the arch documentation for being comprehensive and distro-agnostic)
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[19:08:46] <roch_> hedgie, ty.
[19:08:58] <hedgie> np.
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[19:30:19] <thid_> yo
[19:31:02] <thid_> any1 know how to disable auto suspend in manjaro ?
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[19:32:10] <NanoSector> hi thid_, you should be able to set this from power management options in your DE
[19:32:26] <thid_> cli version?
[19:32:39] <NanoSector> that shouldn't auto suspend
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[19:32:53] <thid_> but it does and its killing me
[19:33:31] <thid_> I wanted to work with my 1tr hdd in whdd but manjaro got suspended while working -_-
[19:33:33] <NanoSector> then there's something running
[19:33:48] <NanoSector> check if any of that is of use
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[19:34:55] <thid_> thx gona check it
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[20:13:49] <raztafari> I need some assistance, i'm trying to install Manjaro KDE (latest) onto my 16 gb USB stick. (To able to save files and settings that i do) I always get after a while "rsync failed with error code 11" during the installation. Anyone know what might be wrong? I've checked the MD5 sum, tried to use gparted and format it pre-install. But nothing seems to help!?
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<Botergos> [https://is.gd/0qt08I] (Possible Hard Drive issue) I can't install my Manjaro! - Installation - Manjaro
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[20:18:55] <rhg135> Hello good people
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[20:19:58] <roch_> \o
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[20:22:37] <rhg135> Any good video editors for Manjaro?
[20:24:18] <CupOfCoffee> kdenlive ?
[20:24:35] <CupOfCoffee> shotcut?
[20:24:37] <CupOfCoffee> blender
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[20:26:16] <rhg135> Thx, going to try out some of my long lost editing chops
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<CupOfCoffee> rhg135 good luck you can also see if there are alternative to the video editer you usedd to use ==> https://alternativeto.net/
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[20:38:39] <rhg135> I didn't do video editing though
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[21:00:02] <manjaroi3> heyy
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[21:02:01] <manjaroi3> any idea how to connect bluetooth device to the pc on this os?
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[21:14:47] <CupOfCoffee> manjaro3 already mounted it device ?
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[21:31:49] <Kluge> Hi people. I'm new to Arch/Manjaro after having used Ubuntu/Mint for quite some years. I feel that now is the time I begin to "step up my game" and begin learning more about the internal workings of the OS and how to more effeciently and effectively manipulate the OS via the Terminal. My question has to do with how I might configure Manjaro to run
[21:31:50] <Kluge> at least the stand alone version of Bitmask VPN, if not an Ubuntu or Debian Package so it starts automatically on boot. Any ideas would be very much appreciated. Thankyou!
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[21:42:15] <manjaro-web|6179> Does anyone know how to trigger the disable touchpad under Deepin DE?
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[21:47:04] <Nytram> Hi peeps. I've managed to get Manjaro KDE as my default OS now but have a little issue with wifi. I inadvertently connected to a BT hotspot and it keeps dropping my ISP connection and connecting that instead. Any ideas how I permanently remove the BT hotspot as an option?
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[22:36:50] <mfrw> I just installed manjaro, upgraded from ubuntu, but my desktop isnt as sexy as it was while installation.. its just basic xfce, what can i do ??
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[22:44:47] <brutus> Ok i have hard time googling this: when grub loads, it starts with error: out of memmory. error: out of memmory error: out of memory error: module 'gfxmenu' isn't loaded press any key to continue
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[22:47:51] <NanoSector> brutus: sounds like it ran out of memory
[22:47:55] <brutus> lol
[22:48:28] <NanoSector> nah, sounds more like a corrupt grub image
[22:48:41] <NanoSector> are you able to boot properly from a live ISO?
[22:48:49] <brutus> yeah
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[22:49:02] <brutus> has enough space on the /boot drive
[22:49:09] <NanoSector> you can chroot into your root installation from there and reinstall GRUB
[22:49:18] <brutus> oh i can boot it if i press enter
[22:49:20] <brutus> it works just fine
[22:49:27] <NanoSector> oh
[22:49:50] <brutus> oh there is a grub update, updating right now
[22:50:17] * NanoSector uses systemd-boot
[22:50:20] <NanoSector> aka gummiboot
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[22:51:11] <manjaro-kde5--> Has anyone successfully onto a USB drive. Because it gives me "rsync failed with error code 11" all the time. Tried right afterwards to install Antergos on the same system with the same procedure. It worked so it's not my hardware nor my thumbdrive. This bugs the living sprit out of me because Manjaro works beautifully on my system and i really need it on a USB stick.
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[23:01:42] <teeneebobby> 6 hour game video with no sound
[23:01:44] <teeneebobby> fuq
[23:01:52] <teeneebobby> The quality doesn't come out great
[23:01:55] <teeneebobby> men
[23:02:09] <teeneebobby> Just my mic
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<Botergos> [https://is.gd/qNJhMZ] [Live Stream] Let's Play Fallout 4 Episode 3 (Commentary) 1080p 60FPS - YouTube
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[23:36:37] <raztafari> If i were to install Manjaro XFCE, is it later possible to change the WM to KDE instead with all the Manjaro KDE edition benefits?
[23:37:06] <raztafari> Without reinstalling the distro that is
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[23:56:14] <ringos> raztafari, is possible
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